Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread G. D. Akin
- Original Message - From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Stargate SG-1 Did they have different languages in the movie? Julia Yes, they spoke some variation of some obscure

Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Gary L. Nunn wrote: I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy me that every alien race that they meet knows English - but they all have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the

Re: Care Packages

2003-03-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Lotion Boot socks. George A - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: Care Packages My brother is back in an undisclosed Air Force location (if it is Korea in winter his care package will look like that MASH

RE: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread Gary L. Nunn
I know you mean Daniel Jackson. George A I was thinking Daniel but typed Samuel. That's what happens when I try to reply to a post when I am exhausted :-) Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Care Packages

2003-03-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:22 PM 3/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: My brother is back in an undisclosed Air Force location (if it is Korea in winter his care package will look like that MASH episode where they get summer underwear in the bitter cold). Talking with soldiers who have been to the desert and those around Ft

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:19:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric wrote This sounds pretty silly. To a lot of people, money IS important. If teachers salaries were higher, there would be more applicants, and more highly skilled applicants, to choose from. Yes, of course it is supply

Re: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country withoutpeaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 07:46:17PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Are those experiences primarily via the media, or first-hand? Both, but perhaps more first-hand than media. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 0:07, Dan Minette wrote: mm...maybe in the War of Independence, Israel needed it, but since then we'd have managed fine, thanks. That contradicts everything I've heard about why Israel was able to finally win the Yom Kipper war. Without the asymmetry in the resupply of

Re: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 9 Mar 2003 at 19:55, Erik Reuter wrote: But poised on the brink of war, it comes home even more, as I see and hear what seems to be a large group of people who have no respect for peace advocacy. Respect should be earned, don't you think? Certainly. I have a LOT of respect for Tony

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: Ok, why not Venezuela? Even if you consider Chavez a dictatorial type, he is still the elected power in Venezuela, and, if nothing weird happens, he will pass the power to the next elected power in a few months. [BTW: neither Argentina nor Paraguay are currently being

Re: Sometimes the Security Council is wrong

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Damon wrote: It makes me wonder what will happen if/when allied forces roll into Baghdad and find the Anthrax/Mustard Gas plants and documentation on a nuclear program what the UN (and better the world) response will be... They will not find them in Baghdad. Either they will find

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote: I think if you read a little bit about Iran you'll find that they have the potential to form a democratic nation. I thought so. Now I am a little bit skeptic. The recent iranian election had an absent rate of _90%_. This means something. Either people don't

Re: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country withoutpeaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Rob wrote: Everyone should be proud. There is hope for eventual peace if Brin-L looks better than the cable channel political talk shows. Not to burst your balloon, but rabid pcp-crazed incontinent baboons fighting over a days-dead gopher carcass look better than most cable TV discussions,

Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 10:36 am, G. D. Akin wrote: Gary L. Nunn wrote: I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy me that every alien race that they meet knows English - but they all have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 8:36, Alberto Monteiro wrote: serious This opposition criterium will exclude the USA - for all non-USAns, the Democratic and Republican Parties are clones, so there's no opposition in the USA for the past 150 years :-P /serious In many ways, our Labour party have

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 8:47, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: I think if you read a little bit about Iran you'll find that they have the potential to form a democratic nation. I thought so. Now I am a little bit skeptic. The recent iranian election had an absent rate

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Richard Baker
I said: Rich, who will update his weblog article with this information as soon as he gets time. I've now done this, complete with lots of hyperlinks to more information: http://www.theculture.org/rich/sharpblue/archives/31.html#update Rich ___

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mm...maybe in the War of Independence, Israel needed it, but since then we'd have managed fine, thanks. The Six Day war alone should incicate to you the kind of men the IDF had and has on it's planning staff. Andy No, this is definitely

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Gautam Mukunda wrote: One other note - I have been quietly told that the extent of US aid to Israel in 1973 vastly exceeds what has been publicly reported. I don't want to say any more than that. Has anyone else heard anything about this? Nukes? Alberto Monteiro

Re: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if war on Iraq is right or wrong. I am quite sure that if it is the right thing to do (or perhaps I should say the best thing), that wouldn't make disrespect for peace advocates right. I want to live in a country and community where

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: One other note - I have been quietly told that the extent of US aid to Israel in 1973 vastly exceeds what has been publicly reported. I don't want to say any more than that. Has anyone else heard anything

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto Monteiro wrote: serious This opposition criterium will exclude the USA - for all non-USAns, the Democratic and Republican Parties are clones, so there's no opposition in the USA for the past 150 years :-P /serious Don't forget our wonderful, non democratic means for selecting a

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Cheese and Rice isn't it obvious? They do not elect their leaders, Who is it they elect in their elections? Actually, Iranian moderates have consistently won the elections held in Iran. The only reason it's still a

Re: Patriot II

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Patriot II At 10:29 PM 3/2/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: So, just what war crimes do you think someone sitting at a water treatment

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 20:03 2003-03-09 -0500, John wrote: Russia can't really be called a democracy until it truly has an opposition, and the opposition succeeds in getting elected. (This will probably eliminate a few other candidates I included originally - but that was more of an outline, really, than anything.)

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 19:35 2003-03-09 -0500, John wrote: Let's say that the US proposes a League of Democracies, with membership invitations extended to all members of NATO, all members of the EU (including newly invited members), most of Latin America (except Cuba, Venezuela, and a few others), Japan, Republic of

at the end of the universe

2003-03-10 Thread The Fool
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3461 'Phantom menace' may rip up cosmos 19:00 05 March 03 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition Stand by for a nightmare end to the Universe - a runaway expansion so violent that galaxies, planets and even atomic nuclei are

RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country withoutpeaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam C. Lipscomb ... Not to burst your balloon, but rabid pcp-crazed incontinent baboons fighting over a days-dead gopher carcass look better than most cable TV discussions, especially the ones on Fox

RE: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John D. Giorgis ... Unfortunately, as Gautam brilliantly pointed out in a recent message, the actions of the French have no gone far beyond those of friends. What did you mean to write here? I can't

Re: Pushing the Apocalypse

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: RE: Pushing the Apocalypse The Fool.. http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2003/feat_2003-02-27.cfm Pushing the Apocalypse How

RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country withoutpeaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... I feel some level of satisfaction in that this is _exactly_ what I said in one of my last posts - I may not have read it; if I did and failed to acknowledge it, I apologize. I'm not

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... However, AFAIK, there isn't much of a teacher shortage in the country these days... which implies that teachers are being paid plenty. I'd

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in California, we're eliminating the teacher shortage. First, we made money available to train new teachers in exchange for a three-year commitment. A lot of people took advantage of that over the last few years, so we had quite a few more

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:02:27 -0800 (PST) --- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France 250,000 500,000 450,000

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: Re: The War on Schools At 05:30 PM 3/9/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:22:48PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Gautam Mukunda wrote: Quite a few people think that the shock of a rapid US victory in Iraq might well topple the Iranian government. I'm not that optimistic. A continued American presence on Iran's border, however, might well do that in a relatively short span of time. I would

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the French are 'fair weather friends' then they should be treated as such. But they most certainly should not be classified as 'enemies' on the 'those who hate us' column. Jon Well, maybe. If this were a one-time thing, then I would agree

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would imagine that a strong military presence of USA soldiers next to Iran would raise anti-USA feelings there. Do you think the _opposite_ would happen? Alberto Monteiro Yes. The Iranian government (the theocrats) is incredibly

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Gautam Mukunda wrote: When people _need_ US troops they are usually extremely popular - it's only after US troops have been protecting a country for 50 years that its residents start to forget why they are there... No news here. Roman soldiers were called by every nation in the

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/10/03 10:39:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the Roman Empire was much more democratic than the USA Empire: anyone from any province could become the Roman Emperor duck Alberto Monteiro I know a horse once became a Senator, but I

E-Learning on the Patriot Act

2003-03-10 Thread Han Tacoma
[Repost from Dig_Ref [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date:Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:58:56 + From:Cindy Boeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E-Learning on the Patriot Act Learn online about the USA Patriot Act and the 4th Amendment! The U.Md. College of Information Studies is offering a new series of

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-10 Thread ValdivielsoB
I am greatly offended by the above tread title. Can we change it to Snail Eating Surrender Apes instead? I happen to like cheese and feel it hurts the cheese-producing centers of the world to link cheese JUST to the French. MANY European nations make cheese. I also think calling them monkeys

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
This is a continuation of my reply, rudely interrupted by the library's closing Saturday grumble, grumble. (It closes at varying times - 5:30, 7 or 9 PM - but all that is posted is Closed Sunday and Wednesday.) --- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: large snip Moreover, we cannot afford

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 11:02, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: One other note - I have been quietly told that the extent of US aid to Israel in 1973 vastly exceeds what has been publicly reported. I don't want to say any more than that. Has anyone else heard anything

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 5:59, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mm...maybe in the War of Independence, Israel needed it, but since then we'd have managed fine, thanks. The Six Day war alone should incicate to you the kind of men the IDF had and has on

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who wonders if anyone else thinks that there must be a joke in the deadline of St. Paddy's Day Yeah, well, too bad the soldiers will be going into a *desert* environment, with their camouflage the wrong color for St. Pat Julia who misses being able

RE: BR!N: Re: a call to the irregulars!

2003-03-10 Thread Horn, John
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or even worse, the upcoming Batman: The Musical. Adapted for the stage by Tim Burton himself. Ew. Tell me you are kidding. Please. Pretty please. - jmh ___

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... Also, I've heard of cases where teachers are not paid enough to be able to live in the districts in which they're teaching. I think that's a bit much, personally. Yup. Silicon Valley. Saw an article on it two

The Sun as Art

2003-03-10 Thread Julia Thompson
http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2002_08_29/ My favorite one is the 20th image. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country withoutpeaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Not to burst your balloon, but rabid pcp-crazed incontinent baboons fighting over a days-dead gopher carcass look better than most cable TV discussions, especially the ones on Fox News. Shit! That bastard on S. Congress sold me some bad PC... Uh,

RE: BR!N: Re: a call to the irregulars!

2003-03-10 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:33 10-03-03 -0600, John Horn wrote: Or even worse, the upcoming Batman: The Musical. Adapted for the stage by Tim Burton himself. Ew. Tell me you are kidding. Please. Pretty please. 'Fraid not: http://www.neverlandhotel.dk/news/index.php?nr=46

Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:33 PM 3/10/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: - Original Message - From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Stargate SG-1 Did they have different languages in the movie? Julia Yes, they spoke

Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:36 PM 3/10/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: Gary L. Nunn wrote: I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy me that every alien race that they meet knows English - but they all have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of the humans in the

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
Yes, there is administration at the highest level too, but I don't recall it being all that massive. So, while I'm willing to agree with the proposition that the district is too bureaucratic, I don't think much in the way of real savings could be obtained by cutting it down. Dan M. Since I

RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peace adocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Horn, John
From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps the subject says it all; in case is doesn't... snip Do us all a favor and send this to the letters to the editor at Time, Newsweek, the New York Times, the Washington Post and any other outlets you can think of. What a wonderful

RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peace adocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do us all a favor and send this to the letters to the editor at Time, Newsweek, the New York Times, the Washington Post and any other outlets you can think of. What a wonderful commentary! - jmh Need I point out that the New York Times prints

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:15 PM 3/10/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who wonders if anyone else thinks that there must be a joke in the deadline of St. Paddy's Day We may be interrupting Muslims while they're drinking their green beer? We're driving the snakes out of Iraq? -- Ronn! :) Almighty Ruler

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:06 AM 3/10/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:22:16PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:34 PM 3/9/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: Do you read the messages in a thread before you reply to them? Yes. Maybe you should read them again? If you are referring to your

RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 01:49 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peace adocates? --- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do us all a favor and

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: Re: The War on Schools Yes, there is administration at the highest level too, but I don't recall it being all that massive. So, while I'm

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:14:59PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: If you are referring to your suggestions for cutting other Federal programs Yes. and using that money for education, I dismissed that as unrealistic because You might have said so, instead of asking where the money was

RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peaceadocates?

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Horn, John Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:42 PM To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' Subject: RE: Do the anti-anti-war critics want a country without peace adocates? From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Guatam wrote: But the largest component of the teacher shortage is created by the teacher's unions, not a lack of funding. An example. A few weeks ago I received an (unsolicited) offer to teach history at a very, very elite American private high school. I had to turn it down, unfortunately.

drug prohibition

2003-03-10 Thread The Fool
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/08/1046826568540.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: What kind of Federal programs do you have in mind? Particularly ones which will not raise taxes or add more bureaucracy? Erik replied: Merit-based awards to teachers; standards, training, and curriculum development for special-ed programs; devlopment of curricula and

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The War on Schools Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:59:57 -0800 (PST) --- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in California, we're eliminating the teacher

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While a high school teacher for ancient history or English may not require CE courses they are most certainly relevant and in fact crucial for science teachers (especially bio chem). New advances in the sciences routinely invalidate our current

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The War on Schools Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:26:08 -0800 (PST) --- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While a high school teacher for ancient history

What Czech taxes are going to...

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
Well, apparently it *is* the size of your bullfrog that matters. :) Jon From: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_758907.html?menu=news.quirkies Frightened female frogs thwart zoo mating scheme Zookeepers in the Czech Republic are struggling to get two frightened female frogs to come out of

Re: Sometimes the Security Council is wrong

2003-03-10 Thread Damon
They will not find them in Baghdad. Either they will find them the hard way - by being killed by them - or they will not find them Well I disagree that they will NOT be found...if Iraq is TOTALLY defeated evidence can and will be found. Look at the situation in Germany at the end of WWII. Lots

Re: E-Learning on the Patriot Act

2003-03-10 Thread Damon
Wow that's really cool! I'm gonna scrape together the money ASAP and participate in the class. If there's interest I'll post my reaction... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: RE: The War on Schools From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Andrew Crystall wrote: Nukes? Nope. They were developed alongside South Africa. And with some help from France. Is there _any_ nuclear program that didn't have the help from France? :-) Alberto Monteiro ___

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff? Andrew Crystall wrote: Nukes? Nope. They were developed alongside South Africa. And with some

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:08:10PM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Have you read much about No Child Left Behind? Info on it is available at http://www.nclb.gov/next/overview/index.html Yes, that is an awful program. Standardized tests are not a good way to handle education. You might have

Re: Sometimes the Security Council is wrong

2003-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Damon wrote: Well I disagree that they will NOT be found...if Iraq is TOTALLY defeated evidence can and will be found. Look at the situation in Germany at the end of WWII. Lots of information was discovered about a host of different things. But the nazis didn't try to _hide_ the holocaust,

Re: Sometimes the Security Council is wrong

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Sometimes the Security Council is wrong Damon wrote: Well I disagree that they will NOT be found...if Iraq is TOTALLY defeated

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Minette ... From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... But the largest component of the teacher shortage is created by the teacher's unions,

L3 Got up on the wrong side of the stall, eh? (was: Who is thesheriff?)

2003-03-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote] snippage ...It isn't enough for the Admin to believe that they have a case - they need to convince the American (and preferably world) public... The case has been made. People don't care. As Michael Walzer memorably wrote (I

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding of the 17th was that there was an implied clearance for military action if Iraq failed to cooperate...? Is that incorrect? No, that is correct. That's exactly what 1441 said.

RE: Question about Spoilers

2003-03-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip How was it? I've been avoiding Brin lately (gasp!) as the last 2 I read, Sundiver and Practice Effect, I found to be.. well, not my favorite books ever. Not bad, per se, just not so great. Hearing what little I have about KP, I'm worried

Re: Sometimes the Security Council is wrong

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 20:20, Damon wrote: They will not find them in Baghdad. Either they will find them the hard way - by being killed by them - or they will not find them Well I disagree that they will NOT be found...if Iraq is TOTALLY defeated evidence can and will be found. Look at the

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 19:20, Jon Gabriel wrote: While a high school teacher for ancient history or English may not require CE courses they are most certainly relevant and in fact I think you're kinda missing the point. They'd be less objections...if they were useful. The CE courses being taught

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip A secret document about ideas that a working group has about laws they would like to pass is not a very good place to reference the actions of the government. I remember all the references of the Birchers to such documents. :-) But it is

RE: Question about Spoilers

2003-03-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Mar 2003 at 19:46, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip How was it? I've been avoiding Brin lately (gasp!) as the last 2 I read, Sundiver and Practice Effect, I found to be.. well, not my favorite books ever. Not bad, per se, just not so

French gratitude (was RE: Who is the sheriff?)

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... The French acted the way they did because that was in consonance with their perception of French interests. The Germans the same. The goodwill meant jack shit to them, because

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:32 AM 3/10/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Don't forget our wonderful, non democratic means for selecting a president. Well, there are a lot of advantages to republican government over democratic. I agree - and it's this ambiguity that suggests erring in the side of _inclusion_ and not

RE: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:08 AM 3/10/2003 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote: Unfortunately, as Gautam brilliantly pointed out in a recent message, the actions of the French have no gone far beyond those of friends. What did you mean to write here? I can't quite figure it out, but there's obviously a typo. That should be a

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: RE: The War on Schools -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Minette ...

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:43 PM 3/10/03 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: Nukes? Nope. They were developed alongside South Africa. And with some help from France. Is there _any_ nuclear program that didn't have the help from France? :-) The Manhattan Project? -- Ronn! :) Almighty

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: RE: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys Chirac is being quoted quite a bit as saying that disarmament will bring about the necessary regime

This thread is drifting now Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who managed to get in another mention of horses :) OK, that does it, Debbi! You have to start reading some Elizabeth Moon. Start with _Hunting Party_. :) Julia ___

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: Given the fact that France was opposed to continuing the inspections and sanctions 5 years ago, its hard to believe this. If you look at 1441 and the French actions, they are not consistent. Gautam made a pretty decent case for the argument that France sees benefits in

Horses.

2003-03-10 Thread Medievalbk
A Day at the Races. Black Beauty. National Velvet. My Friend Flicka. Spirit. Mr. Ed. ...and I never even got to mention Debbi William Taylor -- Anything but another sheriff message. ___

Re: Genghis Khan, super-stud

2003-03-10 Thread Han Tacoma
On Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:16 AM, Jeroen I'm hungry, feed me! van Baardwijk wrote: At 15:56 8-3-2003 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote: Can't say I ever had that urge. However, Sonja and I do enjoy eating at our local Mongolian restaurant named after said warrior. The only one in Holland (I

RE: Genghis Khan, super-stud

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Han Tacoma Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:02 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Genghis Khan, super-stud On Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:16 AM, Jeroen I'm hungry, feed me! van Baardwijk wrote: At 15:56 8-3-2003 -0500,

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:03:58PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Every time we kill one, we create two. Bullshit. 'pologize for speaking metaphorically. What I mean is that violence begets violence. The more we invoke extreme emotion, the less we should expect a rational