Re: March for Women's Lives

Dan wrote: I think that you may be making an error extrapolating from the specific to the general. Proper care of little humans requires significantly greater effort than proper care of little sock puppets. For example, you can roll a little sock puppet up and put it in the drawer for months,

Re: - Darn this is annoying.....

I apologize if it was not clear in my last message. But Dan asked: >One needs to ask why our armed services changed >procedures and techniques that had worked so well for decades. And I pointed out that a reasonable person could argue that our intelligence and interrogation procedures had not wo

Re: More on the environmental movement

At 08:40 PM 5/6/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A cynic would reply by bringing up the piece on IIRC > this past Sunday's _60 > Minutes_ (or a similar show within the past few > days. Maybe it was a > weekend edition of _Today_.) about the rea$on why > t

Re: - Darn this is annoying.....

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:31 PM Subject: Re: - Darn this is annoying. > At 07:18 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "JDG" <[EMAI

Re: The (Third?) Worst Thing Nixon Ever Did

At 08:06 PM 5/6/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: >http://www.techcentralstation.com/041504I.html > >"Why did Nixon push for a [DDT] ban? We may never know. A few older >Washington DC policy experts have suggested that some of his election >campaign supporters were chemical companies that produced

Re: - Darn this is annoying.....

At 07:18 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >- Original Message - >From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:47 PM >Subject: Re: - Darn this is annoying. > > >> At 06:39 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: >> >

RE: March for Women's Lives

Jim, lacking parenting experience: > As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one > kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It > definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. That is so dumb. It does not. And it's probably not what he meant anyway

RE: Disturbing evidence of torture

Gary Denton, putting me in "Oh, Please!" mode: > > Mike Lee > > Savior of the Masses writes: Like all true Saviors, the masses loathe me. > > You have a very good point here. Even a blind hog can find an acorn > > now and then. > > Seems to be your version of a compliment. If you can't tell

Rumsfeld Under Fire for Prison Scandal

http://tinyurl.com/2o9cu "State Department official described "extreme frustration" that months of pressure produced no real change. But Rumsfeld's aides point out that at least two major internal assessments were ordered at the time. In one, Maj. Gen. Geoffrey D. Miller, the commander of the

Re: More on the environmental movement

--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please give credit where it is due. The Republican > administration in > power at the time DDT was banned was more > responsible than any fledgeling > environmental movement and in fact the ban could not > have taken place had > it not been suppor

The Worst Thing Nixon Ever Did

http://www.techcentralstation.com/041504I.html "Why did Nixon push for a [DDT] ban? We may never know. A few older Washington DC policy experts have suggested that some of his election campaign supporters were chemical companies that produced alternatives to DDT and so stood to gain handsomely b

Re: More on the environmental movement

Gautam wrote: I was criticizing a movement that has done immeasurable harm to the world's poor, and you kind of jumped in. Fine. But you (I notice) haven't actually agreed with me on what are - I believe - very baseline positions. Use DDT in countries where malaria is endemic. If not, why not?

Re: - Darn this is annoying.....

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 06:39:46PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > One needs to ask why our armed services changed procedures and > techniques that had worked so well for decades. The Bush administration has been leading by example with that sort of thing ever since 9/11. -- Erik Reuter http://w

Nigerian Cold Fusion

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/419_cold_fusion/ Since they already have a man in space, it should come as no surprise that our old mates from Lagos have pulled off an even more impressive feat - cold fusion. Well, it was actually the brilliant Nigerian physicist Koffi Abacha, who sadly di

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

- Original Message - From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out At 07:07 PM 5/6/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: >--===0939995837== > > >-

Re: More on the environmental movement

--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A cynic would reply by bringing up the piece on IIRC > this past Sunday's _60 > Minutes_ (or a similar show within the past few > days. Maybe it was a > weekend edition of _Today_.) about the rea$on why > there are no new > antibiotics currently

Re: More on the environmental movement

At 07:32 PM 5/6/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...snip... > The 'state nannyism' came up in a discussion of > taking > a pill vs. actually getting off one's tushie and > getting some exercise WRT coronary artery disease - > the latter position mine, the for

Fwd: The Word Spy for 05/07/2004 -- poop fiction

poop fiction n. A literary genre that uses potty humor and off-color jokes to appeal to young children. - Example Citations - In children's publishing, the smell of success has a rather offensive odour these days. From the Captain Unde

Re: More on the environmental movement

--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if you want big numbers of lives saved or kept > 'intact', look at sewage/water treatment and > vaccination programs -- these latter _were not_ > entirely voluntary as schools required certain > vaccinations for attendance. (Aside: I think the >

Draft Registration

http://www.draftregistration.us/ xponent Too Old Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

At 07:07 PM 5/6/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: --===0939995837== - Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out > > Either that or Tom Beck s

Bush Sorry for Abuse of Iraqi Prisoners

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040506/D82D9FQ00.html President Bush apologized Thursday for the abuse and humiliation of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers, saying the scenes of mistreatment had made Americans "sick to our stomachs." A day after he stopped short of apologizing,

Re: More on the environmental movement

- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement > > I didn't know that. All I knew was, a certain amount would help in > tooth formation,

Re: - Darn this is annoying.....

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: - Darn this is annoying. > At 06:39 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > > One needs to ask why our armed services changed > >proc

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out > > Either that or Tom Beck supports denying the vote to Christians who believe > that those who do

Re: - Darn this is annoying.....

At 06:39 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > One needs to ask why our armed services changed >procedures and techniques that had worked so well for decades. Do you include September 11th in working well for decades? JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/m

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Disturbing evidence of torture > > Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: "Robert Seeberger" > > > > Wlll

Re: Democracy -

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Democracy - > At 06:21 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >There is nothing wrong with pluralism. There is something wrong with Bob

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ"

- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" > > Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >From: Deborah Harrel

Re: - Darn this is annoying.....

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:02 PM Subject: - Darn this is annoying. > track record, so I won't go as far as you suggest, but I can only hope that > at some point they will come to

Re: Democracy -

At 06:21 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: >There is nothing wrong with pluralism. There is something wrong with Bob >Jones's position on the issues. Its clearly racist. Or, do you think >there is nothing wrong with thinking blacks and whites shouldn't date? Tom Beck was not talking about ra

Re: Democracy -

- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Democracy - > > That really wasn't my point. Appealing to someone who is, at best, > supports a position that is a slightly we

- Darn this is annoying.....

At 05:41 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: >If this is an accurate transcript, is it sufficient to lump Limbaugh with >Chomski in the anti-American idiot bin? The transcript looks basically accurate. In listening to the actual show, I was almost *sure* that he had to be engaging in some sor

Re: More on the environmental movement

The Fool wrote: > > -- > From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate > > supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other > > neural tube defects (SB frequently results in > > paralysis). And the lac

Re: Democracy -

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Democracy - and am I the only Person here who is sick of Foolish Subject Titles? > At 05:38 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >If go

Re: Democracy - and am I the only Person here who is sick of Foolish Subject Titles?

At 05:38 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: >If going to Bob Jones University, > is required to win the Republican primary in South Carolina, > Otherwise why go? Yeah, democracy's a real bitch. I don't know that it was required to win to go to Bob Jones University, but the idea that C

Re: The Pill-Popping Dispicable Fool

- Original Message - From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "xBrin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: The Pill-Popping Dispicable Fool > <> > > <

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out > At 05:12 PM 5/6/2004 -0400 Tom Beck wrote: > >I have a friend who is devoutly Catholic and yet fe

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

> Arabian horses, of course! ;) > I'm being a little over-the-top, but since at the time > horses were the best overland transport and military > assets, the impact of the introduction of Arabian and > Barb horses, along with style-of-riding, was huge. As > anyone who has worked with heavy/draft

Re: More on the environmental movement

> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > And the lack of iodine is potentially > > devastating, with mental retardation of varying > > degrees the result of prenatal/infantile > deficiency. > > [I believe that "cretinism" was the former term > >for these unfortunat

Re: More on the environmental movement

> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You've assumed that people > > I've never heard of, or at best marginally so > > (Chomsky, frex, or that Karen person), represent > *my* > > viewpoints and thoughts. > > Who does "you" refer to? Sorr

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

> Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard Baker wrote: > > The Muslims may have contributed many worthwhile > things to civilisation > > but the invention of zero wasn't one of them. So > far as I know, the idea > > of "zero" in number systems was independently > invented by the > > Bab

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

At 05:12 PM 5/6/2004 -0400 Tom Beck wrote: >I have a friend who is devoutly Catholic and yet fervently supports >Bush, even after Bush made a speech at Bob Jones University (where, >according to their Web site, they pray for the release of Catholics >from "the false cult that has enslaved the

Re: More on the environmental movement

-- From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Deborah Harrell wrote: > While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate > supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other > neural tube defects (SB frequently results in > paralysis). And the lack of iodine is potentially > devastat

Re: More on the environmental movement

Deborah Harrell wrote: > While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate > supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other > neural tube defects (SB frequently results in > paralysis). And the lack of iodine is potentially > devastating, with mental retardation of varying > degrees the

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Robert Seeberger" > > Wl...if it was good for you, then > >I guess it's good enough for the world court. > > A whole new way to look at "put a sock on it." Meant to say 'thanks' for the clarification of what a 'sock puppet' is

Re: More on the environmental movement

- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement > > You've assumed that people > I've never heard of, or at best marginally so > (Choms

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

Actually, so I understand, Chick is virulently anti-Catholic as well. He think's John is going to Hell equally with the homosexuals... I have a friend who is devoutly Catholic and yet fervently supports Bush, even after Bush made a speech at Bob Jones University (where, according to their Web

Re: More on the environmental movement

> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There's a huge difference between legislating > against > > McDonald's hamburgers and keeping kids from going > > blind, Debbi. > > But, the example that Debbie gave was > > " folate enrichment of various

J.Shrubs Shiavo law Struck Down

<> Law keeping brain-damaged woman alive struck down Florida governor files appeal of judge's ruling CLEARWATER, Florida (CNN) -- A Pinellas County Circuit Court judge has dealt Florida Gov. Jeb Bush a first-round defeat by ruling that a

The Pill-Popping Dispicable Fool

<> <> CALLER: It was like a college fraternity prank that stacked up naked men -- LIMBAUGH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no different than w

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

Oh. From the subject line I was expecting another treatise on incompetent mothers . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: March for Women's Lives

At 10:53 AM 5/6/04, Horn, John wrote: > From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (And if you're working and you have twins or more, it's more > > cost-effective to hire a nanny than to put them all in > > daycare, at least for the first couple of years.) As my brother-in-law (a stay at home d

Re: Winning the War on Terror

-- From: Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "Z Fool" > -- > From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > --- > > Who are you responding to? Don't snip context. > > --- > Sorry, gmail always stacks the conversation based on subject and > provid

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ"

> Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Debbi > >who is going through 'saved mail,' but only > commenting > >on ~ 10% of that - and incidentally found that the > >concepts of Good and Evil were another point of > >disagreement with Travisditt

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

> Homophobe apologists (like JDG), only empower people > like Chick. Actually, so I understand, Chick is virulently anti-Catholic as well. He think's John is going to Hell equally with the homosexuals... Damon, who plays D&D so obviously will see John down there... = ---

RE: March for Women's Lives

> From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (And if you're working and you have twins or more, it's more > > cost-effective to hire a nanny than to put them all in > > daycare, at least for the first couple of years.) As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a ho

Race to the Bottom

<> Street sweeping, once a government job that paid triple what it does now and came with medical care, a pension, annual leave and job security, has been outsourced to pri

New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

This is indescribable: <> Homophobe apologists (like JDG), only empower people like Chick. " To the religious mind, not being right in advance in all cases is a sign that the basic idea is incorrect. There have been many surprises as we

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

> Translations of Arabic works helped spark  the > Renaissance but except > for some paper, medicine, mathematics and drugs I am > not sure what > Europeans acquired that was original to the Islamic > world. That is, if you believe in a Rennaisance... The translation of Greco-roman literature fro

Re: Average IQ by state and how they voted in 2000

At 04:56 AM 5/6/04, Gary Denton wrote: http://americanassembler.com/features/iq_state_averages.htm Really nonsense of course, what brings about that lower IQ, how accurate is that measurement, what do you mean by IQ? And is this anything like that table (later claimed to be a hoax) that purported

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

Translations of Arabic works helped spark  the Renaissance but except for some paper, medicine, mathematics and drugs I am not sure what Europeans acquired that was original to the Islamic world. The loss of the great universities and even the manufacturing sites in Spain also had a lot to do with

Average IQ by state and how they voted in 2000

http://americanassembler.com/features/iq_state_averages.htm Wow, in this election right now I see Kerry getting all of the Gore states plus Colorado and Nevada with New Hampshire, Ohio, Florida, Missouri, Arizona, West Virginia, Arkansas, and Louisiana as tossups. Really nonsense of course, what

RE: What America Does with its Hegemony

Mike said: > Hey, Gary, there's a whole bunch of us not afraid to say that Western > democracy is better by far than anything the Muslims have done since the > invention of zero. The Muslims may have contributed many worthwhile things to civilisation but the invention of zero wasn't one of them.

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

On Thu, 6 May 2004 00:55:04 -0700, Mike Lee claiming not to be pussy whipped wrote: > Gary Denton, traitor in waiting: Patriotism isn't screaming at everyone who disagrees with you. > > Neo-imperialist or even, as a couple political scientists > > have pointed, out neo-confederate might be bette

Barbie-shaped women more fertile

<> Barbie-shaped women more fertile 00:01 05 May 04 NewScientist.com news service Large-breasted, narrow-waisted women have the highest reproductive potential, according to a new study, suggesting western men's penchant for wom

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

> Mike Lee > Savior of the Masses writes: > Gary Denton, self-loathing American keeps on keeping on: > > There was a systemic and ongoing problem with abuse and even > > deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.  This was an > > military intel and CIA operation whose operative and civilian > >

RE: Disturbing evidence of torture

Gary Denton, self-loathing American keeps on keeping on: > Begin - Boston Globe:Civilians ID'd in abuse may face no charges When they get away with it, call me. The pointing-with-alarm-possibility that they might get away with it doesn't much make me care. Though I will give you credit if the poi

RE: March for Women's Lives

Ronn, bemused: > > At 02:10 AM 5/5/04, Mike Lee wrote: > > >And f$ck the World Court with Lynndie's strapon, by the way. > > > Umm . . . > > > > -- Ronn! :) > Yeah, I can see why you'd be left speechless and aroused by that. ___ http://www.mc

RE: What America Does with its Hegemony

Gary Denton, traitor in waiting: > Neo-imperialist or even, as a couple political scientists > have pointed, out neo-confederate might be better. Hey, Gary, there's a whole bunch of us not afraid to say that Western democracy is better by far than anything the Muslims have done since the invent