http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-10/pu-sbb101204.php
Study: Brain battles itself over short-term rewards, long-term goals
Implications range from economic theory to addiction research You walk
into a room and spy a plate of doughnuts dripping with chocolate
frosting. But wait: You were
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:13:55 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 11:55 AM 10/11/2004 -0400 Bryon Daly wrote:
I agree that there's a lot of good though behind it, but I think that
times have changed and the system doesn't serve us that well any
longer, as it stands. But really my main
Julia Thompson wrote:
Put it on a web page and post the URL, would be my suggestion.
Why such a big joke? Is it an image, such as a cartoon?
Problem is: I don't know if it's a copyrighted movie, because I
only got the file, without any link or reference. I think that
circulating among a
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From: David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: Brin: W's own words
David said, with me snipping a lot,
I apologize. sincerely. (I have not yet read the
next two messages. I
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has unveiled his state's first
hydrogen refueling station in Los Angeles. The official says it marks the
start of a transition as cars convert from gasoline to hydrogen fuel cells.
And _how_ is this hydrogen produced? Probably the production of H2
per
Dan Minette wrote:
I'd give him a bit more leeway than that. While he and we are not God, he
and we can be willing instruments of God's will for the world. The idea of
the United States as the last best hope of mankind didn't begin with him
or Reaganit is a quote from Lincoln.
Lincoln -- and
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:34:42 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5045652-113623,00.html
John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John
Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?
We have finally seen the true logical conclusion of
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:37:22 -0500, Dan Minette
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read a good deal of a sub-section of the European Left in the twin
list (Culture). Not everyone is there, of course, but the mean of Culture
is both far to the left and very libertarianthe cognative dissonence
Bryon Daly wrote:
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:13:55 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 11:55 AM 10/11/2004 -0400 Bryon Daly wrote:
I agree that there's a lot of good though behind it, but I think
that times have changed and the system doesn't serve us that well
any longer, as it stands. But
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From: Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: From the Guardian
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:37:22 -0500, Dan Minette
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read a good deal of a
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:01:41 -0500, Dan Minette
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read a good deal of a sub-section of the European Left in the twin
list (Culture). Not everyone is there, of course, but the mean of
Culture
is both far to the left and very libertarianthe cognative
Hello,
There are interesting voices here. Your letters create an amusing
picture of a movie pie fight, with words and reasoning crustily defending or
creamily attacking each others position.
I enjoy the politeness of combat of words and ideas and even Boston cream
pie. I don't
On Oct 24, 2004, at 1:34 AM, Damon Agretto wrote:
I think it would be better to define what exactly an ILLEGAL order
is...and I think the previous poster clarified it. My opinion: given
my military background, I think some discipline is in order. But I
also think the person(s) issuing the
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The enemy of my enemy surely is my friend?
Nick
No. That seems to me the belief of some of the
European left which - asked to choose between Islamic
terroism and the US - seems to kind of prefer the
terrorists.
Seems to kind of?
I am passing this on, despite the fact that I doubt the story very
much. Madsen is a usually reliable investigative journalist.I
discount the likelihood in this case for many reasons, given below.
Still, the mere possibility that it's true means we must pay
attention.
--
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps where we most differ is that I'm
increasingly unwilling to use
language that divides humanity into good and bad
people. Nonetheless,
when one is a cop, that shorthand is immensely
pragmatic, and we are
being the world's police, for better
In a message dated 10/15/2004 6:37:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Note that this is very different from
lifting the ban on stem cell research - _every
single time_ Edwards or Kerry says that, they are
lying, and they know that they are lying. There is no
ban. But
In a message dated 10/15/2004 11:53:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, Bush was the first President to ever _approve_ of
stem cell research. It isn't even within the power of
the President to ban stem cell research. What Bush
did was much more subtle - he
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From: Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: From the Guardian
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:01:41 -0500, Dan Minette
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read a good deal of a
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a true copout. No prior president felt the
need to approve stem
cell research. There was no ban on any type of
funding for stem cell research
from any government force. Talks about Chutzpah (you
know the definition of
chutzpah - killing your
From: Ray Moses
Sent: Sun 10/24/2004 9:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mission to the sun
40 years ago I worked on the Apollo/Saturn. One of the things we proposed at that time
was sending an appropriately modified capsule to the photosphere.
The
--- Ray Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since then solar seismology has developed. Sound
waves will
travel through outgassed materials. I would like
the resurrect
that idea of a mission to the sun. Any comments,
criticisms?
Ray moses
Well, as long as you went at night, I think it
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: John Edwards: John Kerry is Jesus
I have no love of Edwards. Like most physicans I think his legal career
was
vastly damaging to the way we practice medicine. I have
- Original Message -
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: mission to the sun
--- Ray Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since then solar seismology has developed. Sound
waves will
travel
This passage in the Weekly Standard was so clearly put
that I was unable to resist the temptation to post it:
Kerry now opposes all of the following: drilling for
new oil in most parts of the United States; increased
use of coal because it might contribute to global
warming and make it tougher
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's too bad that they couldn't have done that
during the Dark Ages, when
it was knight time, even during the day.
Dan M.
What worries me is that, given Dan's spelling history,
I'm not clear if this pun was intentional or not :-)
=
Gautam
I've just been reading some columns on David Hackworth's web page.
http://www.sftt.org/hackstarget.html Hackworth is often called the
most decorated military man in US History. He is an outspoken
critic with bipartisan credibility. (He was scathing about details of
the Balkans intervention,
I was talking with my son in the car, and the conversation went from
politics to economics...specifically my unease with Kerry's position on
free trade. I was about to explain why I thought free trade was good, when
Ted popped up with an explanation of why he thinks its good. I was going
to talk
--- Gautam
Kerry rules out every quantitatively significant
alternative to continued reliance on their oil.
I have never claimed to agree with Kerry on all
things. As a matter of fact, I am more in favor of
highly constrained and supervised drilling for oil in
refuges than any other Sierra
--- David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could not care less. The polemical techniques
used
in this note from you make me proud to be on
opposite
sides.
Your desperation is showing.
You mean the polemical technique of claiming that the
President of the United States must be blackmailed
In a message dated 10/21/2004 10:49:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
do hope, btw (and I'm talking to you, Zimmy :-) that
the Red Sox/Yankees postseason puts to rest once and
for all any talk about clutch hitting or being better
in the postseason or any other such
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I kind of hope the sox's win (that is kind of like you
admitting you might vote for Kerry) so the boston fans can stop whinning and get on
with their lives. Understand I am not into cosmic implications (although I
wonder if a red sox win would be a good omen for
Gautam wrote:
Which President has policies that serve the Saudis
again? Or is it possible, just possible, that maybe
certain policies can be products of honest
differences, instead of assuming that everyone who
disagrees with you must be an enemy of the US?
Another way to ask the question might
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:48:54 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the opposite side...I am on the side of the
United States of America. If you choose to be on the
opposite side from me, that's your choice. I can say
that at least I'm on the side that tolerates
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could not care less. The polemical techniques
used
in this note from you make me proud to be on
opposite
sides.
Your desperation is showing.
You mean the polemical technique of claiming that
d.brin quoted:
According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush
administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election
to Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military
strike on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor at
Bushehr on
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This statement:
Which President has policies that serve the Saudis
again? Or is it possible, just possible, that maybe
certain policies can be products of honest
differences, instead of assuming that everyone who
disagrees with you must be an
In this case, I would say that it is _descriptive_.
I'm not aware of anyone else on the list suggesting,
as Dr. Brin has on numerous occassions, that the
reason the government is adopting policies he
disagrees with is because the people involved are
bribed and/or blackmailed.
It
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you give me a good answer on why the part of the
9/11 investigation
dealing with the Saudis has been kept secret by the
Bush administration?
The 9/11 attacks were planed financed and carried
out mostly by Saudis.
Why haven't we made them
David Brin wrote:
Oil prices skyrocket (AND THAT
serves saudi interests far better than Kerry's
position IN THEORY that he would emphasize
conservation over new domestic exploration).
I think it doesn't: the saudis really don't want the
oil prices to become too high, because high oil prices
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
I would also say that the record of alternative
sources of power is very poor,
Is it?
After the oil crashes of 1973 and 1979, Brazil implemented
a policy of replacement of gasoline per alcohol. It was
so successful that for some time we had more consumption
in alcohol
Off topic. Space ,com is wealth of pictures and information.
Wednesday's eclipse will involve many subtle stages. Here's a
minute-by-minute guide.
Most scientists now agree, the moon is made from chunks Earth, torn loose
long ago. The latest theory, with cool animation, can be found here:
- Original Message -
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: On the Saudis
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you give me a good answer on why the part of the
9/11
Doug Pensinger wrote:
The USGA estimates that the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge would provide us with about 6 months worth of oil. If we tapped
every possible oil resource in the U.S., drilling wells in pristine
wilderness and defacing the coastal grandeur of the Big
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with most of your post, but I differ here.
Eventually, it would be
very worthwhile to drill for that oil. But, since
we can still purchase
oil at a price that is significantly less than the
'81 price, after
inflation, and since oil is such
I'm going to take these as one. The most important
figure in the 9/11 attacks (other than Bin Laden)
was
Egyptian. I don't see you declaring that we attack
Egypt. Zacarias Moussoui is German. Why arne't you
calling for us to attack Germany? It is true that
15
of the 19 hijackers were
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it doesn't: the saudis really don't want the
oil prices to become too high, because high oil
prices
makes it economically viable _other_ sources
Alberto... like worrying about John Keery's preferece
for conservation over drilling, this
What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox defense
There are _high schoolers_ who could make plays that
these guys are botching. I mean, really, what the hell?
=
Gautam Mukunda
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Freedom is not free
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Off topic.
The only thing off topic aroud here are David Brin novels. :-P
Jim
When will we see a new Brin book, anyway? Maru
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Gautam Mukunda wrote:
What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox defense
More importantly, how do you give a team *five* outs in an inning and still manage to
get out of that inning without giving up some runs? Schilling is amazing. And he's
an EQ geek to boot. So he's secretly one of
--- Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox
defense
More importantly, how do you give a team *five* outs
in an inning and still manage to get out of that
inning without giving up some runs? Schilling is
amazing. And
--- David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going to take these as one. The most
important
figure in the 9/11 attacks (other than Bin Laden)
was
Egyptian. I don't see you declaring that we
attack
Egypt. Zacarias Moussoui is German. Why arne't
you
calling for us to attack
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:50:11 -0500, Robert Seeberger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with the electoral college is not in the electoral
college, but in the way populations are represented in Congress. I
would think that this lack of representation on an everyday basis
would be of much
At 05:02 PM 10/24/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
The 9/11 attacks were planed financed and carried out mostly by Saudis.
Why haven't we made them accountable for their atrocities?
Because the ones who flew the planes are dead, and the remaining planners
are still at large? And because group
At 01:24 AM 10/25/2004 + Alberto Monteiro wrote:
David Brin wrote:
Oil prices skyrocket (AND THAT
serves saudi interests far better than Kerry's
position IN THEORY that he would emphasize
conservation over new domestic exploration).
I think it doesn't: the saudis really don't want the
At 06:09 PM 10/24/2004 -0700 Gautam Mukunda wrote:
We've already ascertained
that when a Republican questions somebody's foreign
policy judgment, you think that's unacceptably
questioning their patriotism, but when a Democrat
explicitly says that Republicans are unpatriotic or
unamerican (Wes
At 04:26 PM 10/24/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
Or is it possible, just possible, that maybe
certain policies can be products of honest
differences, instead of assuming that everyone who
disagrees with you must be an enemy of the US?
Damned lying. You lose all respect for saying that
foul,
At 05:28 PM 10/24/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
As for the opposite side...I am on the side of the
United States of America. If you choose to be on the
opposite side from me, that's your choice. I can say
that at least I'm on the side that tolerates
disagreement, is able to talk with
At 06:55 PM 10/24/2004 -0500 Julia Thompson wrote:
I kind of hope the sox's win (that is kind of like you
admitting you might vote for Kerry) so the boston fans can stop
whinning and get on
with their lives. Understand I am not into cosmic implications (although I
wonder if a red sox win
At 03:53 AM 10/24/2004 -0400 Bryon Daly wrote:
2) It forces attention on small States. For example, a lot of attention
is being given to Iowa and New Mexico in this election cycle. Under a
proportional system, it would take a shift of 10-20% to shift even one EV
in those States. On the
At 05:38 PM 10/24/2004 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As to stem cell research. There is simply no question that Bush's policy is
hindering advances. I sit on many committees at my medical school and the
frustration and anger about what this policy cannot be adequately
described. As
I may have
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Schilling is going to go to the hall of fame on the strength of
two postseasons (not that he might not deserve it anyways, just
that these two complete the argument), and for the first time, I'm
going to say fine, this is like nothing I've ever seen. Wow.
He's pitched
Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda
What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox defense
There are _high schoolers_ who could make plays that
these guys are botching. I mean, really, what the hell?
I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with the Cardinals
bats and pitching. Honest, their
--- Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He's pitched the heck out the postseason. And once
they came up with the idea of stitching the ankle
sheath, he overcame that one bad start.
The only thing I'd be concerned about if I were
Schilling is the long term effect of the sutures.
Heroic
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with
the Cardinals
bats and pitching. Honest, their pitchers aren't
great, but they
aren't *that* bad. I can't believe all the walks
and
hit-by-pitches.
Can't wait to get back to St. Louis. Of
John wrote:
It strikes me as a fair reading of Dr. Brin's comments to this List for
some time now - that Republicans are enemies of the United States, and
Republican policies are never the product of rational thought, but are
instead the product of this enmity.
He has repeatedly indicted the Bush
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Many of the doubts that hover over Sullivan's case for
Kerry are rooted in the value system widely shared
among Democrats: Most people are basically good; wars
are caused not by evil motives but by
misunderstandings that can be talked out; conflict can
be overcome by more
At 08:25 PM 10/24/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
John wrote:
It strikes me as a fair reading of Dr. Brin's comments to this List for
some time now - that Republicans are enemies of the United States, and
Republican policies are never the product of rational thought, but are
instead the
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
conflict can
be overcome by more tolerance and examining of our
own faults
I'm not even sure they are liberal principles... ;-)
I'm not aware of a political theory or religion that
subscribes to them.
Nick
I snipped
Gautam
wanted all of the reservists hanging from the
yardarm (he's a Marine, and I think really enjoys
playing to the stereotypes), and the other four all
thought that they should be spending a long, long,
long time in Leavenworth. Four of them did express
concerns over the way that the Reserves
At 08:25 PM 10/24/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
It strikes me as a fair reading of Dr. Brin's comments to this List for
some time now - that Republicans are enemies of the United States, and
Republican policies are never the product of rational thought, but are
instead the product of this
Ray Moses wrote:
From: Ray Moses
Sent: Sun 10/24/2004 9:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mission to the sun
40 years ago I worked on the Apollo/Saturn. One of the things we
proposed at that time was sending an appropriately modified capsule
to the
- Original Message -
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: The Electoral College (Was: Re: 2004 Presidential Race
Analysis)
Byron, I honestly can't tell from your comments here - but do
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:53:31 -0400, John D. Giorgis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 03:53 AM 10/24/2004 -0400 Bryon Daly wrote:
2) It forces attention on small States. For example, a lot of attention
is being given to Iowa and New Mexico in this election cycle. Under a
proportional system,
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:25:44 -0400, Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(See spreadsheet at: http://users.rcn.com/daly5/EVbalance.xls)
Doh! It's:
http://users.rcn.com/daly5/ECbalance.xls
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It strikes me as a fair reading of Dr. Brin's
comments to this List for
some time now - that Republicans are enemies of the
United States, and
Republican policies are never the product of
rational thought, but are
instead the product of this enmity.
Yes it strikes you that way, because
Julia Thompson wrote:
Oh, and speaking of omens -- when's the last Redskins home game
before
Election Day?
The Skins are scheduled to lose next Sunday.G
xponent
Uh Huh Maru
rob
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Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This statement:
Which President has policies that serve the Saudis
again? Or is it possible, just possible, that maybe
certain policies can be products of honest
differences, instead of assuming that everyone who
disagrees
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Me
The Fool
Maybe others
xponent
It's Fishy Maru
rob
Then this does not do any of you credit. When Jerry
Falwell was spreading Vince Foster conspiracy theories
he was condemned by many leaders of the conservative
movement - including _both_
Gautam wrote:
I'm going to take these as one. The most important
figure in the 9/11 attacks (other than Bin Laden) was
Egyptian. I don't see you declaring that we attack
Egypt. Zacarias Moussoui is German. Why arne't you
calling for us to attack Germany? It is true that 15
of the 19 hijackers
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox defense
There are _high schoolers_ who could make plays that
these guys are botching. I mean, really, what the hell?
Yeah. Sheesh!
The totally insane thing is that they won the game as well as they did!
(I'm not not not
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a common thread, Gautam, let me help you see
it. Planning:
Saudi's and some others, Saudi in charge.
Financing: Saudi. Terrorists
involved 15 Saudis, 4 others.
There's another common thread, Doug, let me help _you_
find it. Not
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
What the ((* is going on with the Red Sox
defense
There are _high schoolers_ who could make plays
that
these guys are botching. I mean, really, what the
hell?
Yeah. Sheesh!
The totally insane thing is that
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 06:55 PM 10/24/2004 -0500 Julia Thompson wrote:
I kind of hope the sox's win (that is kind of like you
admitting you might vote for Kerry) so the boston fans can stop
whinning and get on
with their lives. Understand I am not into cosmic implications (although
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Me
The Fool
Maybe others
xponent
It's Fishy Maru
rob
Then this does not do any of you credit. When Jerry
Falwell was spreading Vince Foster conspiracy theories
he was condemned by many leaders of the conservative
Gautam wrote:
Then this does not do any of you credit. When Jerry
Falwell was spreading Vince Foster conspiracy theories
he was condemned by many leaders of the conservative
movement - including _both_ The National Review and
_The Weekly Standard_, the two most important
conservative magazines.
Dan,
OK, I agree that we cannot stop all terrorist-type activities. But, I
think it is a reasonable long term stretch goal to reduce terrorists to
just another type of criminal...without the ability to alter society.
First of all, I'd like to commend both you and my old friend Nick for
carrying
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