[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been following the Check 21 initiative for about 6 months now and I
think this is the beginning of the end for paper checks. I have mixed
feelings on this. Even though there will always be people that will want to
write a paper check, I suspect that banks will make
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Following up on myself -- these last two
messages really came through fast!
So it is not always six hours...
That's good news.
Ruben
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That's because they aren't moderated
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:55:42 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just days after Bush's now-controversial State of the Union
Address
in 2003, Clinton declared: After what happened on 9/11, the will
of
the international community has stiffened, as represented by this
last U.N.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 05:03 PM 26/10/04 -0700, you wrote:
Hidey-ho. New (digest) list member here. Chad Underkoffler --
pleezedtameetcha.
I have a question,
snip
The second thing I'd like to discuss is Is tolerance a
positive, negative, or neutral meme? and Can tolerance be
abused, or is it
At 09:02 PM 10/26/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:56:47 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Protecting the Saudi government from what?
The fact that members of the Saudi royal family and Saudi agents ergo the
Saudi government were directly involved in the planning and
At 12:01 PM 10/26/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
Today it's California's biggest
broadcaster, Pappas Telecasting, donating half a
million $ in free air time to Republican campaigns.
They claim the FCC (run by Colin Powell's political
hack son) ruled that equal time isn't necessary
because it
At 09:25 PM 10/26/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
The world is full of possibilities Doug, but this is a long shot.
Political pressure comes from leverage. Who would we get involved in a
coalition to push on Saudi, and what would be the leverage.
A trillion dollars worth of investments in
At 07:12 PM 10/26/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
b) Don't you deal with the bigger culprits first and
in some proportion to their involvement?
Sometimes you deal with the problem you *can* deal with first, if two
problems are roughly similar in their seriousness. (BTW - I am not
agreeing with
At 07:17 AM 10/26/2004 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote:
No poster has questioned more people's patriotism on this List than Dr.
Brin, and no person has launched more overheated insults than Dr. Brin.
And quite frankly, it is a bit appalling when your only response is to go
after the *targets* of said
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:20:12 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today it's California's biggest
broadcaster, Pappas Telecasting, donating half a
million $ in free air time to Republican campaigns.
They claim the FCC (run by Colin Powell's political
hack son) ruled that equal time isn't
Pat Buchanan:
http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover.html
As Barry Goldwater said in 1960, in urging conservatives to set aside their
grievances and unite behind the establishment party of Eisenhower,
Rockefeller, and Lodge, the Republican Party is our home. It is our only
hope. If an
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
[Various complaints snipped.]
From the e-mail that *everyone* receives when they subscribe:
Your first messages will be moderated. If you do not see your message
appear on the list,
give it some time, and if it still hasn't appeared in a few hours,
e-mail the
JDG wrote:
I must have missed your objections to Michael Moore's uncapped donation the
Kerry-Edwards Campaign.
Michael Moore doesn't have an FCC license -- he's not a trustee of the
public airwaves. Doesn't that make all the difference?
Nick
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From my friend Chuck Landau, The
I'm off to Orlando for a job interview - I don't know much about the
position yet, but it seems like it could be very cool, and living near
Orlando would make my wife happy - she has family there and hates the
Boston area. Wish me luck!
-bryon
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On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:49 PM, Dan Minette wrote:
No technical problems.
If it's the former, it's a challenge. If it's the latter, I'm
shocked,
especially since this list's very namesake has always been preaching
the free flow of ideas, freedom of speech, transparency and
accountability. Censorship
Perhaps we will have another cat one day...
http://www.allerca.com/html/pricingreserve.html
Sure, but do they have videos of them spinning in zero-G?
Dave
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:00:52AM -0700, Dave Land wrote:
I'll bite: how has Nick set up gambling on Brin-L?
Try to keep up now, Dave!
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Behalf Of Bryon Daly
I'm off to Orlando for a job interview - I don't know much about
the
position yet, but it seems like it could be very cool, and living
near
Orlando would make my wife happy - she has family there and hates
the
Boston area. Wish me luck!
Good luck! I am jealous...
-
On Oct 27, 2004, at 9:12 AM, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:00:52AM -0700, Dave Land wrote:
I'll bite: how has Nick set up gambling on Brin-L?
Try to keep up now, Dave!
That was the purpose of the question, Eric.
What is not as clear is the purpose of your riposte.
Dave
On Oct 27, 2004, at 5:29 AM, JDG wrote (quoting Pat Buchanan):
The liberal establishment ... broke [Nixon's] presidency in Watergate.
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Nixon and his band of thieves broke his presidency in Watergate.
Dave
Lies, Damned Lies, and Pat Buchanan Maru
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:22:41AM -0700, Dave Land wrote:
That was the purpose of the question, Eric.
No.
What is not as clear is the purpose of your riposte.
It's purpose was to encourage you to re-read and think, Davey. Brin-L
obviously has nothing to do with gambling. So Dan's statement
On Oct 27, 2004, at 9:44 AM, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:22:41AM -0700, Dave Land wrote:
That was the purpose of the question, Eric.
No.
You seem know what the purpose of my question was (or, anyway,
what it was not), yet it is not what /I/ thought it was.
Fascinating.
Or was
- Original Message -
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: Shocked shocked
No, thanks. I won't waste my time with that. Maybe Dan will answer my
question, maybe he won't. Maybe you'll
Howdy,
Coder/Blogger Dan Shafer reports on Salon.com's report that an unusual
number of American newspapers are switching from Bush in 2000 to Kerry
in 2004 -- unusual in the sense that just twice before in the last 16
elections has the Democratic candidate won more endorsements than the
On Oct 27, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
I'll answer. It was a cultural reference to Casablanca. The police
chief
shuts down Rick's Cafe Americana, and Rick asks him why. The answer is
because I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling at this establishment,
sir.
Then a staffer comes up
Behalf Of Dan Minette
I thought that Casablanca was mainstream enough for most
folks to get the
reference. If you didn't, no attempt to sound more
knowledgeable than you
was intended. I'm sure you have cultural refererences that I
wouldn't get
tooand you are free to use them if
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Albert Speaks
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:22:56 EDT
PS. Pictures from Titan! Wow. If I'm not living in a science fiction world,
then where am I?
In a Fantasy world?
-Travis
I think on this list it might be best to stick with
SF/Fantasy movie references! :)
Damon.
=
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html
Now Building:
- Original Message -
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Shocked shocked
Behalf Of Dan Minette
I thought that Casablanca was mainstream enough for most
folks to get the
reference. If
Horn, John wrote:
I'm still wondering how Sonja knew whether all those messages were
moderated or not...
Easy -- check the headers. If there's a header X-Mailman-Approved-At
header, then it was moderated.
Everything else is unapproved... ;-)
Nick
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From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Shocked shocked
Horn, John wrote:
I'm still wondering how Sonja knew whether all those messages were
moderated or not...
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Shocked shocked
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:44:12 -0400
Look for similarities between the unreasoning in
Dan's statement and the one that started this thread.
As Steve said,
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six
years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set
up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established
a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat
technologies, and even casts of
Sorry, couldn't help but pass this one along
Florida Election Ballot
http://wearabledissent.com/101/floridaballot.html
Just in case the URL wrapped:
http://tinyurl.com/6uhxn
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If you can't take the heat, don't tickle the dragon.
Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
big snip
So it wouldn't be as worthwhile for the candidates
to focus on CO
because there's less return for their effort? You
mean something
like the 33 or so other states that the candidates
don't need to
bother with because they're virtually
At 27-10-04 13:24, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:35:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
transparency and accountability.
So, what's your name and and home address?
Considering the inherent unsafety of the Internet, I prefer to keep my
personal information personal.
But you may
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:48:11 +0200
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 05:03 PM 26/10/04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The second thing I'd like to discuss is Is tolerance a
positive, negative, or neutral meme? and Can tolerance be
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:35:14PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 27-10-04 13:24, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:35:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
transparency and accountability.
So, what's your name and and home address?
Considering the inherent unsafety of
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 10:36:08AM -0700, Dave Land wrote:
Any criticism along those lines was directed at Erik, who for some
reason found it necessary to answer my honest query with a smart-yap
comment.
Whine, whine, whine. If you just paid attention, you wouldn't have to
whine about it. It
On Oct 27, 2004, at 2:08 PM, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 10:36:08AM -0700, Dave Land wrote:
Any criticism along those lines was directed at Erik, who for some
reason found it necessary to answer my honest query with a smart-yap
comment.
Whine, whine, whine. If you just paid
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 02:17:17PM -0700, Dave Land wrote:
Oh, shut up.
Oh, no.
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Former brineller Stefan Jones passed on this:
--- Stefan Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
. . . in case you haven't already seen this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3948165.stm
Scientists have discovered a new and tiny species of human that
lived in Indonesia at the
David Brin wrote:
BTW, this is consistent with Bush's comment when, as
governor of Texas, he was asked about the execution in
Texas of a woman, Faye Tucker. He MOCKED her in a
high, whiny voice, whimpering, please, don't kill
me.
YeahCarla Faye Tucker.she got high on drugs
d.brin wrote:
Meanwhile, I am told that those marvelous placards at the Grand Canyon,
telling about the layering of geological eras, wonderfully vivid before
the eye, have been taken down and replaced with bible passages.
I had to check on this one, since I couldn't imagine the park service
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
YeahCarla Faye Tucker.she got high
on drugs one night.took a pickaxe.and
killed two of her
neighbors.and couldn't remember why
By Texas standards, she deserved the injection.
I am not arguing against this. Or even
At 04:47 PM Wednesday 10/27/04, d.brin wrote:
Former brineller Stefan Jones passed on this:
--- Stefan Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
. . . in case you haven't already seen this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3948165.stm
Scientists have discovered a new and tiny
Horn, John wrote:
I'm still wondering how Sonja knew whether all those messages were
moderated or not...
Fairly easy actually.
It says so in the message headers.
xponent
Been There Maru
rob
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See the section snipped below from:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562575?
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War is an option whose time has passed. Peace is the only option for
the future. At present we occupy a treacherous no-man's-land between
peace and war, a time of growing fear that our military
David Brin wrote:
My point was to point out the high school bully-style
mockery, substituting for the decorum, sobriety and
gravitas that should be shown by the leader of a
civilization, when discussing life or death...
... or war...
But who elected the president of the USA to become
the
JDG wrote:
It strikes me as a fair reading of Dr. Brin's
comments to this List for some time now - that
Republicans are enemies of the United States, and
Republican policies are never the product of
rational thought, but are instead the product of
this enmity.
Dr. Brin can correct the
NASA expert: White House stifles global warming data
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) -- The Bush administration is trying to stifle
scientific evidence of the dangers of global warming in an effort to keep
the public uninformed, a NASA scientist said Tuesday night.
In my more than three decades in
On Oct 27, 2004, at 2:59 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
d.brin wrote:
Meanwhile, I am told that those marvelous placards at the Grand
Canyon, telling about the layering of geological eras, wonderfully
vivid before the eye, have been taken down and replaced with bible
passages.
I had to check on
- Original Message -
From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Br!n: On the Saudis
Dan wrote:
The world is full of possibilities Doug, but this is a long shot.
Political pressure comes
At 09:35 PM 10/27/2004 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 27-10-04 13:24, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:35:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
transparency and accountability.
So, what's your name and and home address?
Considering the inherent unsafety of the Internet, I
6-8 last week, Yuck.52-50 for the year. Double yuck. And, the Upset
Special falls to 4-3 after the Bills bumble and stumble their way to a loss
vs. the punchless Ravens.
Well, the Bills' season may be over, but I will keep plugging away
Arizona at Buffalo - The Cardinals are coming off
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The first two sentences above really set me off. And
I can only hope
that you can understand why.
Actually, after everything I've heard on this list, I
have no sympathy whatsoever, Rob, and I really don't
appreciate
I am continuing to look closely at the State Polls that come in, as well as
TV ad buys, and candidate visits to get a feel for how this race is
developing. When it comes to State polls, I tend to put a lot of stock in
Gallup generally (as they are the granddaddy of pollsters) and in
Mason-Dixon
And on a related note, pigs fly, water runs uphill, and the Apocalypse is scheduled to
begin 3:00 PM next Thursday. :)
Jim
I can only imagine what kind of hangover Gautam will be nursing tomorrow Maru
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Not only did I get to see a lunar eclipse, but I got to watch the Boston
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Wow.
If someone had told me back in 1986 that such a day would come, with
both eclipse and World Series victory, I wouldn't have believed it. :)
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IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S WORDS -
Ø In February, 2001, Secretary of State Colin Powell said We have
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significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction.
Ø In July 2001, National Security Director Condoleezza Rice
John D. Giorgis wrote:
6-8 last week, Yuck.52-50 for the year. Double yuck. And, the Upset
Special falls to 4-3 after the Bills bumble and stumble their way to a loss
vs. the punchless Ravens.
Well, the Bills' season may be over, but I will keep plugging away
I'm going to conduct
Dave Land wrote:
Incidentally, I was not concerned that you were trying to sound more
knowledgeable than me (or anyone else). Any criticism along those lines
was directed at Erik, who for some reason found it necessary to answer
my honest query with a smart-yap comment.
That's Erik for you
John D. Giorgis wrote:
I am continuing to look closely at the State Polls that come in, as well as
TV ad buys, and candidate visits to get a feel for how this race is
developing. When it comes to State polls, I tend to put a lot of stock in
Gallup generally (as they are the granddaddy of
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Has anyone noted how the execution rate dropped in Texas since Bush
executed his term as President?
Not really. Maybe you're right, and I hadn't been paying that much
attention. (About 4 months after he took office, my life changed
drastically)
But I have noticed
Jim Sharkey wrote:
And on a related note, pigs fly, water runs uphill, and the
Apocalypse is scheduled to begin 3:00 PM next Thursday. :)
Between that and the lunar eclipse, we figured there must be a few more
signs out there on that.
I won't believe it unless I've seen at least 3 signs,
At 11:03 PM 10/27/2004 -0500 Julia Thompson wrote:
I expect that JDG will have a better record for this week than I will,
as I'm just playing favorites and he's actually looking at factors that
will realistically affect the outcome of the games.
Considering that I am inexplicably performing at a
Sadly I have an 8:30am midterm tomorrow morning, so
only a mild one...
I think today involved the most stereotypically male
moment of my life. I saw the first half of the game
at a lingerie fashion show, watching models while
behind them the game was being played. There was much
laughter and
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Sadly I have an 8:30am midterm tomorrow morning, so
only a mild one...
I think today involved the most stereotypically male
moment of my life. I saw the first half of the game
at a lingerie fashion show, watching models while
behind them the game was being played.
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