Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 23:56 25-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: No. When you have a discussion with someone, you need to agree on common definitions for terms. The disagreement was not about the *common* definition of the word; the disagreement was about whether or not an alternative meaning of a word has to

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

uot;J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 21:10:48 +0200 At 08:02 05-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: sophistry n : a deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in the hope of deceiv

Pun Fight! (was: Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World)

Deborah Harrell wrote: Still trying off and on to access this site. And no, as you are apparently the unofficial Linkmaster, asking is quite logical. :D Dan Minette wrote: >>> If I were the link master, then I'd name my site >>> www.porkouttoday.com >>> As it is, I have mutton to

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

J. van Baardwijk Sholom Aleichem, Ilana. :-) Aleichem Hashalom! :-) This is greeting - something like "may you have peace" Ilana ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Russia (Intellectual output from the Arab World)

From: "J. van Baardwijk" <> Ilana < >> Jeroen <> I watch NTV - there is daily program about Israel and I can't even compare it to the programs I saw as a kid - 30 or more years ago. News *are* pro-Israeli and there is weekly program "Today in Israel", that sometimes interviews our politicians

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

OK, that's very cool. I learned something. :-) Thanks, and my apologies -- you were right! Jon >From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World) >Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:49:32 +0200 > >At

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 19:57 06-10-2002 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: > > And guess what -- I found that message... > >Congratulations! Bit like finding the needle in the haystack??? Then it was either a small haystack or a big needle. It only took me three minutes to find it. > To make it entirely corre

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

J. van Baardwijk wrote: > At 23:31 05-10-2002 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote about me: > >> Not ONCE has he ever admitted to being wrong about ANYTHING. > > Do you know what the problem is with that blanket statement? I need to find > only *one* message in which I admit to being wrong, in order to pr

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 08:01 06-10-2002 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote: >It's "Jeroen displays opinions that are seemingly prejudiced against >Israel" usually that is. That is still not really correct, but at least it is a little bit less wrong that "Jeroen displays opinions that are seemingly prejudiced against J

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 07:50 06-10-2002 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote: >> > >I understand that you don't watch Russian TV. You understand correctly. We do not get Russian TV here. But even if we would, the few words of Russian I know are not enou

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

"Robert Seeberger" <> It's "Jeroen displays opinions that are seemingly prejudiced against Israel" usually that is. His reaction to the start of *this* thread was amusing. Ilana ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <> I understand that you don't watch Russian TV. Ilana ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 23:31 05-10-2002 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote about me: >Not ONCE has he ever admitted to being wrong about ANYTHING. Do you know what the problem is with that blanket statement? I need to find only *one* message in which I admit to being wrong, in order to prove your statement false. And gues

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 23:37 05-10-2002 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: >J. van Baardwijk wrote a beautifully researched and referenced post: Why, thank you! :-) >Now if you would only do the same for that other word. I am trying, but doing a Google search on "anti-Semite" returns a hell of a lot more links tha

Re: Teaching a pig to sing (was Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 08:10 05-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: >When we are discussing meaning of words, it is imperative that we rely >upon dictionaries, because they are THE sources that tell us HOW A >WORD IS USED. If I decide that "blue" ought to mean "green", I can >with justification be called wrong on t

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 08:02 05-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >>>sophistry >>> >>>n : a deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in >>>the hope of deceiving someone [syn: sophism] >>>Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University >>> >>>~~~ >>>I'd say that's an acc

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World) > >Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:46:30 +0200 > > > >At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

J. van Baardwijk wrote a beautifully researched and referenced post: > At 07:39 05-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >>> At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated: >> >> The word I believe you were looking for is 'blatted'? It means either a >> loud noise or the noise a sheep ma

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: > Jeroen wrote: > >> I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many people >> attribute a certain meaning to the word "anti-Semite" that differs from what >> I believe to be its meaning. >> > I stand corrected - you're not confused, you're deliberate

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 07:39 05-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >>At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated: > >The word I believe you were looking for is 'blatted'? It means either a >loud noise or the noise a sheep makes, IIRC. Been up since 2:30 -- too >lazy to check the dictionary, but I'm nearl

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

>From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World >Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:57:11 +0200 > >At 00:32 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >>sophistry >> >>n : a deliberately invalid argument

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

>From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World) >Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:46:30 +0200 > >At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated: The word I believe you were looking for is 

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 18:20 04-10-2002 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: > What part of the word dictionary do you not understand? The "d" and the "ionary" part. I understand the "ict" part -- as I should, since for me and my family, ict (or in its more common spelling: ICT) is what pays the bills and puts food on

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 00:32 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >sophistry > >n : a deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in >the hope of deceiving someone [syn: sophism] >Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University > >~~~ >I'd say that's an accurate descriptio

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated: > > I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many > > people attribute a certain meaning to the word "anti-Semite" that > > differs from what I believe to be its meaning. > >This is the same kind of logic, quacks, holocau

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated: > > I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many > > people attribute a certain meaning to the word "anti-Semite" that > > differs from what I believe to be its meaning. > >This is the same kind of logic, quacks, holocau

Re: Teaching a pig to sing (was Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 18:25 04-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: > > >I'm not asking for an L3 post - just a simple explanation as to why > > >you insist your position is the correct one. > > > > I have already explained that a few times now. I see no reason to keep > > repeating myself. > >And the "reasoning" yo

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

J. van Baardwijk wrote: > > Just in case I misinterpret the meaning that poster attributes to the > word "anti-American"... Do you mean anti-U.S. or does the term "anti-American" include Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, Argentineans, Peruvians, Cubans etc. etc.? Doug 8^) __

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

> From: J. van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many people > attribute a certain meaning to the word "anti-Semite" that differs from > what I believe to be its meaning. This is the same kind of logic, quacks, holocaust deniers, c

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World > > From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:25 PM > Subject: Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World > > > &g

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

> From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Still trying off and on to access this site. > > And no, as you are apparently the unofficial > > Linkmaster, asking is quite logical. :D Dan Minette wrote: > > If I were the link master, then I'd name my site > > www.porkouttoday.com > >

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World > > If you are the linkmaster, you need to find the pagekeeper.

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 06:28:06PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > > > If I were the link master, > > If you are the linkmaster, you need to find the pagekeeper. Zuul(sp?) > rules! Spelling correct. Either that, or it's wrong at IMDB. :) (Source: http://us.imdb.com/Titl

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 06:28:06PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: English, was: Intellectual output

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

Jeroen wrote: > At 12:15 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: > > >Jeroen wrote: > >* > >You have not been paying attention then. I define "anti-Semite"as "a > >person who hates Semites". It should therefore be quite obvious that, > >to me, the word "anti" in "anti-Semite" means "ene

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World > Still trying off and on to access this site. > And n

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World) > At 12:15 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb

RE: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Are we back to this, again? > -Original Message- > From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 03:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > > > At 17:45 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon G

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World (NOW WITH APOLOGY! BUY NOW!)

At 14:08 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: >I'm not asking for an L3 post - just a simple explanation as to why you >insist your position is the correct one. I have already explained that a few times now. I see no reason to keep repeating myself. Jeroen "And now, off to bed" van Baardwij

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

At 12:15 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: >Jeroen wrote: >* >You have not been paying attention then. I define "anti-Semite"as "a >person who hates Semites". It should therefore be quite obvious that, >to me, the word "anti" in "anti-Semite" means "enemy of" or "someone >who is

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 17:45 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >>And if you remember that, then you will also remember that since that >>time, the policy of this list is that nobody is required to back any >>claims with any proof. > >Now, I may have been deleting e-mails en masse, but for the record, to my >kn

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

--- Dan Minette wrote: [I wrote:] > > --- Dan Minette wrote: > > > > > > Right. Worsted wool is high quality wool on a > sheep that has yet to be > > > sheared and has been ruined with an indelible > die so it cannot be sold. It > > > use to be the best wool, but the animal rights > > > activi

Intellectual output from the Arab World (NOW WITH APOLOGY! BUY NOW!)

Jeroen wrote: * At 09:46 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: >you have apparently decided to use your need to study for an important >exam as a pretext for halting your participation in this discussion of >of the meaning and origins of the term "anti-Semite", That part of your sen

Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

Jeroen wrote: * You have not been paying attention then. I define "anti-Semite" as "a person who hates Semites". It should therefore be quite obvious that, to me, the word "anti" in "anti-Semite" means "enemy of" or "someone who is against". * I think it is you who have n

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

>From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World >Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:16:23 +0200 > >At 01:30 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >

Natural Languages [was: Intellectual output from the Arab World]

Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > You seem to be ignoring the > important fact of language, that words change in meaning, > pronunciation, and spelling over time, and that such changes > do not necessarily follow any strict logic. > I once heard that en's _black_ came from fr's _blanc_, which mean

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

"J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > At 10:13 04-10-2002 -0700, Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > >But your case is flawed as well, Jeroen. You assume that the "anti" in > >"anti-semite" means "the opposite of" or "the negative form of", when in > >reality it means "denial of" or "enemy of" or "someone who is

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World (NOW WITH APOLOGY! BUY NOW!)

At 09:46 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: >you have apparently decided to use your need to study for an important >exam as a pretext for halting your participation in this discussion of >of the meaning and origins of the term "anti-Semite", That part of your sentence is true... >with the

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 14:33 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >>Fine with me. I really do not have the time for this anyway; this Monday >>I have my "Systems Development I" exam (the fourth exam for my CompSci >>degree), so most of my time will go into studying today and this weekend. > >I know how important t

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 10:13 04-10-2002 -0700, Matt Grimaldi wrote: >But your case is flawed as well, Jeroen. You assume that the "anti" in >"anti-semite" means "the opposite of" or "the negative form of", when in >reality it means "denial of" or "enemy of" or "someone who is against" You have not been paying atte

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

>From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World >Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:49:36 +0200 > >At 18:56 03-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: > >>I

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

> At 16:36 03-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > >Let me get this straight. English is a second language for you and you are > >claiming that the definitive source of English (OED) is wrong and you are > >right in defining an English word? "J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > I am applying this h

Intellectual output from the Arab World (NOW WITH APOLOGY! BUY NOW!)

Jeroen wrote: * Nope, there is no "translation". I *do* have that exam on Monday, and I *will* be spending a lot of my time till then studying for it. But since you seem to be convinced I am lying, I will give you the opportunity to check my story (and apologise afterwards). ***

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, J. van Baardwijk wrote: > At 09:58 04-10-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote: > > >Omnia wankerae delenda est? > > Care to translate that into English? I think it's more fun in grammatically incorrect Latin. Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, & Ashcroft, LLP (Former

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 09:58 04-10-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote: >Omnia wankerae delenda est? Care to translate that into English? Jeroen "Likud Delenda Est" van Baardwijk __ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.B

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 08:18 04-10-2002 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: > > Under normal circumstances, sure, it would not be unreasonable. But > > if one starts throwing accusations around like The Fool does, hiding > > behind a nickname is the Way of the Backstabbing Cowards. If a person > > starts insinuating that some

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 07:23 04-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: > > >I consider this reason enough to determine that you are not > > >inclined to discuss this topic in good faith. > > > > Fine with me. I really do not have the time for this anyway; this > > Monday I have my "Systems Development I" exam (the four

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Omnia wankerae delenda est? Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, & Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) "Two bits, four bits, six bits, a peso. If you're for Zorro, stand up and say so!" ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 07:23 04-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: > > >Um, no. You appear hell-bent upon reserving for yourself the right > > >to define words the way you *want* to define them. > > > > Which, of course, cannot be said about the pro-Israel crowd... > >Ahh, so it's not *just* the Israelis, but all

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 01:43:21PM +0200, J. van Baardwijk wrote: > Under normal circumstances, sure, it would not be unreasonable. But > if one starts throwing accusations around like The Fool does, hiding > behind a nickname is the Way of the Backstabbing Cowards. If a person > starts insinuati

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:05 AM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > At 21:38 03-10-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote: > > > > The authorit

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Richard Baker wrote: > > I think that the pseudonymity of the Fool is quite > reasonable. After all, he or she has a consistent > identity and so a coherent reputation > that messages can affect. > And how can we prevent that someone creates a false ID in one of those free e-mail service

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Jeroen wrote: > At 18:56 03-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: > > >Um, no. You appear hell-bent upon reserving for yourself the right to > >define words the way you *want* to define them. > > Which, of course, cannot be said about the pro-Israel crowd... Ahh, so it's not *just* the Israelis, b

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 12:15 04-10-2002 +0100, Richard Baker wrote: > > Of course, this is extra easy for The Fool, as s/he is cowardly hiding > > behind a nickname and refuses to disclose his/her true identity, so > > that nobody can come after him/her. > >I think that the pseudonymity of the Fool is quite reasonab

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Jeroen said: > Of course, this is extra easy for The Fool, as s/he is cowardly hiding > behind a nickname and refuses to disclose his/her true identity, so > that nobody can come after him/her. I think that the pseudonymity of the Fool is quite reasonable. After all, he or she has a consistent i

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 21:24 03-10-2002 -0500, The Fool, once again true to his name, wrote: >So now you are redfining the english language, even after someone has >posted, the one and only definitive word meaning and usage from the >unabridged Oxford English Dictionary. This is...Pathetic. Are you going >to deny

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:03 AM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > At 21:24 03-10-2002 -0500, The Fool, once again true to his name, wrote: >

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:53 AM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > At 20:30 03-10-2002 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > >Your logic

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 01:30 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >:-) What was it you had posted to the list incessantly a few months ago? >"I'm still waiting for Jeroen to post proof and documentation to these >accusations?" You'd think I'd remember it better from having seen it a >few hundred times. :-) Since

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 21:38 03-10-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote: > > The authority on this is called "plain and simple logic". If X equals > > Y, then -X equals -Y. If X equals Y, then -X does not equal -0.5Y. > >Wrong. There are a finite number of values where (-X = -0.5Y) And (X = >Y). 0. Read my statement again,

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 21:24 03-10-2002 -0500, The Fool, once again true to his name, wrote: >So now you are redfining the english language, even after someone has >posted, the one and only definitive word meaning and usage from the >unabridged Oxford English Dictionary. This is...Pathetic. Are you going >to deny

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 20:30 03-10-2002 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: >Your logic is flawed. >There is no language (spoken language) on earth that conforms to >mathematical precision. Well, then just in case I misinterpret the meaning of the word: Next time someone calls me anti-American (bound to happen again so

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 18:56 03-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: >Um, no. You appear hell-bent upon reserving for yourself the right to >define words the way you *want* to define them. Which, of course, cannot be said about the pro-Israel crowd... >I consider this reason enough to determine that you are not i

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

>From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World >Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 00:24:56 +0200 > >At 17:24 03-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >>Jeroen, >> >>I have presented eight valid sources (

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

>From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World >Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 23:11:40 -0500 > >Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > I think you need to look up the word "sophistry". > > Its what you are doing in an

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Robert Seeberger wrote: > I think you need to look up the word "sophistry". > Its what you are doing in any case. If you want the OED definition, ask. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

> From: J. van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 17:24 03-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >Jeroen, > > > >I have presented eight valid sources (most accepted **internationally** in > >their fields) that explain that proper usage of a particular word in > >English is not what you, in you

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

> From: J. van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sorry to disappoint you, but it is the other way around. > > If both Jews and Arabs are Semitic, than *by definition* the word > anti-Semitic must mean anti-Jew *and* anti-Arab -- just like > "anti-American" means "hatred of anything American"

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

> From: J. van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 23:30 02-10-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote: > > >I've had upwards of 100 browser sessions open at the same time. > > Out of curiosity, what kind of activity could possibly require you to have > 100+ browser sessions open simultaneously? Because I'

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > At 16:36 03-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > >Let me get t

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > At 17:40 02-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >Since bo

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

I wrote, but forgot to say: [Dan wrote] > > Out of curiosity, have you ever taken a course in > > logic? I don't think > > that word means what you think it does. > > Ooh! Ooh! Forgot the smileys! > :) :) :) :) **And then** forgot to say _I_ forgot the smileys, in _my_ reply... > Bd Ma

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

> Out of curiosity, have you ever taken a course in > logic? I don't think > that word means what you think it does. Ooh! Ooh! Forgot the smileys! :) :) :) :) Bd Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.ya

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

--- Dan Minette wrote: > Out of curiosity, have you ever taken a course in > logic? I don't think > that word means what you think it does. Perhaps I am udderly grasping at straws, but maybe you should go back to the beginning?! We aren't all intellectual giants. Cliffs of Insanity Maru

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

Jeroen wrote: > At 17:24 03-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >I have presented eight valid sources (most accepted **internationally** in > >their fields) that explain that proper usage of a particular word in > >English is not what you, in your opinion, consider the 'logical' > >definition of

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > At 17:30 03-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > > > The a

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 17:30 03-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > The authority on this is called "plain and simple logic". If X equals Y, > > then -X equals -Y. If X equals Y, then -X does not equal -0.5Y. > >So, anti-matter has negative mass? > >Out of curiosity, have you ever taken a course in logic? I don't

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 16:36 03-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: >Let me get this straight. English is a second language for you and you are >claiming that the definitive source of English (OED) is wrong and you are >right in defining an English word? I am applying this horrible little thing called logic here. If

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:24 PM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > The authority on this is called "plain and simple logic". If X

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At 17:24 03-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >Jeroen, > >I have presented eight valid sources (most accepted **internationally** in >their fields) that explain that proper usage of a particular word in >English is not what you, in your opinion, consider the 'logical' >definition of it to be.

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

>From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Link! Link! I wanna link proving it! ;) >(And shouldn't they have snipped or slaughtered it? I >adore English! And had to add _something_ to avoid >the despised one-line reply...) > >Three Bags Full Maru Should we perhaps consider that the one-l

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World > --- Dan Minette wrote: > > > > Right. Worsted

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--- Dan Minette wrote: > > From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:29 PM > Subject: English, was: Intellectual output from the > Arab World > > Not To Be Confused With Worsted Maru

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World Not To Be Confused With Worsted Maru Right. Worsted wool is high q

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World > Sorry to disappoint you, but it is the other way around. > > If both J

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

>From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World >Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 15:03:24 -0500 > >Jon Gabriel wrote: > > > > >From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Intellectual output

English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

--- Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > Julia Thompson wrote: > > > > > >> I think that is a badder thing to do than (...) > > > > > > Speaking of which, you missed one such > exception. Shouldn't it be > > > "worse", not "badder"? :) > > > > > Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > > > No, it should be "ungooder"

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World >Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:16:12 +0200 > >At 17:40 02-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >>Since both the Miriam Webster and American Heritage dictionaries are >>accepted as one of the authori

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

At 17:40 02-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >Since both the Miriam Webster and American Heritage dictionaries are >accepted as one of the authoritative sources for spelling and definitions >of English, your definition of antisemitism as listed in your message >(quoted above) is incorrect. In

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