Re: Compulsory HS

2003-06-30 Thread Russell Chapman
Kevin Tarr wrote: Plus, I still don't know about HS level sports in other countries Very little in State Schools in Australia. The elite private schools in the capital cities compete against each other in a series of sports, such as rugby, cricket, soccer, sailing, swimming and rowing. It's

Mudfoot chants again.

2003-06-30 Thread Medievalbk
I know this for a fact, and it isn't any rumor: Dol Hasa Roch never had nor has a sense of humor. He wants to keep your servants both docile and compliant, By making any Rousit with a smile declared defiant. It ain't too late--go reprobate. Sing out a Loony Tune. Or a hundred thousand years from

Re: Compulsory HS

2003-06-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Plus, I still don't know about HS level sports in other countries Very little in State Schools in Australia. The elite private schools in the capital cities compete against each other in a series of sports, such as

frist strikes back: religious nut wants constitutional ban on gaymarriage

2003-06-30 Thread The Fool
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-06-29-frist-gay-marriage_x.ht m Frist backs constitutional ban on gay marriage WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate majority leader said Sunday he supported a proposed constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage in the United States. Sen. Bill Frist,

Re: Strine

2003-06-30 Thread R M Ludenia
Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Ray Ludenia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of youse septic blokes or shielas come across instances of ridgy didge use of strine? http://minirich.twoday.net/stories/8088/ BUGGER! Strine -- Australian slang -- is invading American speech...snip..terms such as

Re: Birth Rates Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
I'm not quite sure what you mean -- if you mean that having more children after 1 boy and 1 girl doesn't increase your costs, you're wrong. Talk to someone with 2 kids about their grocery bill for a week, and then talk to someone with 4 kids about their grocery bill. Shoes don't last forever to

Re: Birth Rates Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
Gautam Mukunda wrote (about birth rates): I think that probably has something to do with it. My best guess, though, is that the main reason is that the US is just so much wealthier than other countries, even other industrialized countries. It's just incredibly expensive to have kids in a

Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 29 Jun 2003 at 17:33, Gautam Mukunda wrote: All of this excluding England, of course, which _has_ fixed its pension problem, and at least has healthier demographics than the rest of Europe, if not as good as the US. Umm? No, we have NOT. Germany has, by offloading it entirely onto

Re: Compulsory HS

2003-06-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:36 PM 6/29/2003 -0700, you wrote: --- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I didn't catch how much these countries spent on education, I doubt it is more than the US. And they seem to have better results. I don't really buy this, for two main reasons. The first is that Americans

Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3031332.stm Gay and lesbian couples will be awarded the same legal rights as married couples under plans outlined by the government. These will include pension and property entitlements if couples register their commitment in a civil ceremony. The moves

Re: Re: Re: SCOUTED: Religiousness associated with less depression

2003-06-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
I'll admit it was a rather terse comment fueled mostly by being totally sick of the subject. It appears you interpret all critical comments as insults. No, the comment was not critical. A critical comment would be constructive. Your comment, however, only served one purpose - to demean

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 30 Jun 2003 at 11:55, William T Goodall wrote: The moves will give next-of-kin rights in hospitals That alone leads me to back it. The current situation is farsical, and very nearly got a friend of mine killed (let's just say that her parents were NOT her legal next-of-kin) Andy Dawn

Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm referring to the problem of only 1.5 workers per retired person (if retirement stays at 65) in 2050. Which it won't. As advances in medicine make people more able-bodied older, *and* as evidence accumulates that on-going

Retirement Crisis Re: Comparision of economic growth

2003-06-30 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GS study says there will only be 2.3 workers for every person 65 and over in 2050. If people retire at 65, there will be a lot more people selling than buying in 2050 as compared to now. I presume that you are referring to

Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
iaamoac wrote: Moreover, hopefully by then Social Security will be means-tested, forcing those who have saved to not realy upon the efforts of those 1.5 workers for sustenance. The implication being that those who have saved should be penalised for their thrift? As a general principle I agree

Re: SCOUTED: Religiousness associated with less depression

2003-06-30 Thread Richard Baker
John said: JDG - You atheists are really doing yourselves proud here. Hey, can I be one of the Intolerant Atheists too? It looks like such fun! ;) Rich ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread TomFODW
However, the changes have been criticised by human rights campaigners who complain that heterosexual non-married couples are discriminated against. Heterosexual couples will not be eligible for the registration scheme, a decision attacked by veteran gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell. Mr

Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 02:34 pm, Ray Ludenia wrote: iaamoac wrote: Moreover, hopefully by then Social Security will be means-tested, forcing those who have saved to not realy upon the efforts of those 1.5 workers for sustenance. The implication being that those who have saved should be

Re: Compulsory HS

2003-06-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really buy this, for two main reasons. The first is that Americans have been complaining that their school systems lag the world since Sputnik, yet over that span of time the American dominance of the world in economics generally, and science

RE: Re: SCOUTED: Religiousness associated with less depression

2003-06-30 Thread Chad Cooper
-Original Message- From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 12:19 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Re: SCOUTED: Religiousness associated with less depression [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Ronnn! Religion is a crutch. Surprise!!! Its

Re: SCOUTED: Religiousness associated with less depression

2003-06-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:01:11PM +0530, Ritu wrote: Not without some effort on your part, Mr. Baker. Say something scathing, snide, nasty, intolerant... You have to have your fun before claiming the badge, I'm afraid. Oh, shut up, you religious ninny! -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Birth Rates Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Chad Cooper
The Oregonian on Sunday published a great article about this subject. It was mentioned in the article that education played the biggest role in whether or not people had children, particularly in Europe. The premise being that children interfered with professional development. This model of

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:24 AM 6/30/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, the changes have been criticised by human rights campaigners who complain that heterosexual non-married couples are discriminated against. Heterosexual couples will not be eligible for the registration scheme, a decision attacked by

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread TomFODW
To modify an old saying: Why buy the cow if you can get the government to give you the milk for free? I'm afraid I don't see your point. The complaint is that the UK government will, rather than permit actual legal same-sex marriage, permit gay couples certain privileges similar to marriage

Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Julia Thompson
iaamoac wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm referring to the problem of only 1.5 workers per retired person (if retirement stays at 65) in 2050. Which it won't. As advances in medicine make people more able-bodied older, *and* as evidence

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-06-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Steve Sloan II wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: 28 days after the release of the virus, London is a virtual ghost-town by day. Alberto Monteiro wrote: Sounds like _Lifeforce_ without Mathilda May. Bah Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man on Earth with

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread TomFODW
But of course the BBC managed to find a straight couple to illustrate the issue: they have a child and live together and think the new law is a good thing; but they would like to be able to take advantage of it themselves since they don't want to get married. Why should straight people be

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:58 PM 6/30/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To modify an old saying: Why buy the cow if you can get the government to give you the milk for free? I'm afraid I don't see your point. The complaint is that the UK government will, rather than permit actual legal same-sex marriage, permit

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 06:58 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To modify an old saying: Why buy the cow if you can get the government to give you the milk for free? I'm afraid I don't see your point. The complaint is that the UK government will, rather than permit actual legal same-sex

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-06-30 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Julia wrote: Steve Sloan II wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man on Earth with Vincent Price, Omega Man with Charlton Heston, and yet another planned remake I've heard plans for... ;-) How about Quiet Earth? Dude! My absolute

Re: 28 Days Later

2003-06-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Julia wrote: Steve Sloan II wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Or that Richard Matheson novel that got made into The Last Man on Earth with Vincent Price, Omega Man with Charlton Heston, and yet another planned remake I've heard plans for... ;-) How about

Re: Retirement Crisis Re: Comparision of economic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 01:11:47PM -, iaamoac wrote: If you are looking at the stock market in isolation, the effect of what you describe should only change the nominal price level of stocks, not the actual price level. Why do you say that? In isolation, it should definitely affect the

RE: SCOUTED: Religiousness associated with less depression

2003-06-30 Thread Ritu
Erik Reuter wrote: Not without some effort on your part, Mr. Baker. Say something scathing, snide, nasty, intolerant... You have to have your fun before claiming the badge, I'm afraid. Oh, shut up, you religious ninny! Hmm, that's close but not quite good enough. Not to be overly

Tytlal are grist for the Mill

2003-06-30 Thread Medievalbk
John Stewart Mill had the idea that in an election, the votes of educated people should be weighted more heavily than those of the masses. This is the basis of all tytlal philosophy. Their Give a damn system. They too believe in an oligarchy. But unlike most human philosophers, the Tytlal