RE: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Ronn Blankenship > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: woensdag 20 november 2002 7:25 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds??? > >But a real Dremel is the best -- accept no substitutes! > > Agreed. Of course

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 12:56 PM 11/19/02, Julia Thompson wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds??? > >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:20:44 +0100 > > > >Julia Thompson wrote: > > > > > Sonja, would you like to get hardware a

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 11:20 AM 11/19/02, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: > Sonja, would you like to get hardware as an anniversary gift? :) As a matter of fact I do get tools/hardware/software/DIY books or anything else usually considered as not really done/apropriate for the woman you lo

Fwd: David Brin question

2002-11-19 Thread Steve Sloan II
I got this email today. Does anybody here have any idea where this qote might appear in UPLIFT WAR? Subject: David Brin question Date:Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:13:49 -0800 From:Ben Sibelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mr. Sloan: I like your website and I noticed you're

Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment > And as for ignoring human rights abuses by Russia - wasn't the price we > paid for being permit

Re: Cyberian Khatru is here!!!

2002-11-19 Thread Robert Seeberger
Sold out the first night!! This is so much fun! rob - Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Cyberian Khatru is here!!! > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/amycd > > You can hear samp

Re: The Tick (was Re: Scouted: Journalists Hit Boot Camp)

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The Tick (was Re: Scouted: Journalists Hit Boot Camp) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:10:58 -0500 (EST) Jon Gabriel wrote: > Spn! > Have you ever read the original 12 issues of the comic? Much funnier than even the cartoon. A great, absurd deconst

The Tick (was Re: Scouted: Journalists Hit Boot Camp)

2002-11-19 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jon Gabriel wrote: > Spn! > Have you ever read the original 12 issues of the comic? Much funnier than even the cartoon. A great, absurd deconstruction of the superhero archetype. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalize

RE: Complexity, nodes, state space (was RE: and so it begins)

2002-11-19 Thread Horn, John
> From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > My brain hurts... > > > > What got your brain into *that* state? All this talk about brains and neurons and big, big, *big* numbers... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:41:08AM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: > 1.5E15 bytes. So, if you do 3 operations per neuron as you go through ^^ should be synapse > one update cycle of your state machine, then you need

Cyberian Khatru is here!!!

2002-11-19 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/amycd You can hear samples of some songs on this page. xponent Music Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Complexity, nodes, state space (was RE: and so it begins)

2002-11-19 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Horn, John > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Complexity, nodes, state space (was RE: and so it begins) > > > My brain hurts... > > - jmh > > (I know

Re: ADSL and 802.11b

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Russell Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ADSL and 802.11b Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:52:18 +1000 Nick Arnett wrote: It is much more in the tradition of the Internet to be open about sharing your connection, despite the need for managing such. I'd be the same if I could find an ISP

Re: ADSL and 802.11b

2002-11-19 Thread Russell Chapman
Nick Arnett wrote: It is much more in the tradition of the Internet to be open about sharing your connection, despite the need for managing such. I'd be the same if I could find an ISP who'd provide unlimited downloads on broadband. All ours have monthly caps (mine is 3Gb) or else charge by th

Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Richard Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment > Dan said: > > > Basically, the US has stated that it will not deploy a sufficently > > large ABM s

Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread Richard Baker
Dan said: > Basically, the US has stated that it will not deploy a sufficently > large ABM system to stop an attack by China or Russia. As long as this > is understood as a valid statement, there is no real inducement for > either country to build many more weapons. According to the FAS nuclear a

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread Russell Chapman
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: And at some occasions I do get other tools as well, but that is not something to be discussed in mixed company. Let me say that when asked about what I got as a gift for certain occasions I do have some trouble answering truthfully. ;o) Exactly how is this li

Re: Question: List Etiquette

2002-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of Julia Thompson > > ... > > > The server has a limit as to how large a message it'll accept, but it's > > larger than 10K. > > It's set to 40K. We can change it, if circums

RE: Question: List Etiquette

2002-11-19 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Julia Thompson ... > The server has a limit as to how large a message it'll accept, but it's > larger than 10K. It's set to 40K. We can change it, if circumstances call for a change. Come to think of

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:56 19-11-2002 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: > OK, i'll bite. What's a Dremel? A really good little rotary tool. One you can put all sorts of attachments onto for engraving, carving, sanding, buffing, polishing, etc. For more info: www.dremel.com. Prepare to drool... :-) The profess

Re: Question: List Etiquette

2002-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: > > I'm still making sure that any posts i send to the list are no larger than > 10K. Are we still observing this rule on the new server? I only ask > because every once in a while I could post a scouted article in it's > entirety at 11 or 14K. > > Just asking. :) Generally

Re: Cameras

2002-11-19 Thread Bryon Daly
Kevin Tarr writes: >I asked before, got no response. ;-) Wanted to try again before I went >somewhere else. Does anyone have good information about cameras, do it as a >hobby? I like taking pictures but the cost of getting them developed seems >prohibitive. OTOH the best zoom a digital camera has

RE: Uh-oh!

2002-11-19 Thread Horn, John
> From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Have you ever said something that could be taken very badly out of > > > context in a crowded room where most of the conversations > have just > > > reached a pause? :) > > > Probably, but in the instance I remember most vividly, it was

RE: Complexity, nodes, state space (was RE: and so it begins)

2002-11-19 Thread Horn, John
My brain hurts... - jmh (I know, I know ... one line response: bad.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Uh-oh!

2002-11-19 Thread Horn, John
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > "I'm not dead." > > > > "I'm getting better." > No you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment... (Someone had to say it...) - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread Dan Minette
> > Building a Margenol (sp) line is not a defense. > > Do you mean a Maginot Line? > Yes. Thanks for assisting a pour spellar. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Question: List Etiquette

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
I'm still making sure that any posts i send to the list are no larger than 10K. Are we still observing this rule on the new server? I only ask because every once in a while I could post a scouted article in it's entirety at 11 or 14K. Just asking. :) Jon

Scouted: Sinking Spanish Oil Tanker

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
:-( J Tanker May Cause Disastrous Oil Spill by Mar Roman MADRID, Spain (Nov. 19) - A damaged tanker carrying more than 20 million gallons of fuel oil broke in two off northwest Spain and sank Tuesday, threatening an environmental disaster. The Bahamas-flagged Prestige vanished into the ocean at

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds??? > >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:20:44 +0100 > > > >Julia Thompson wrote: > > > > > Sonja, would you like to get hardware as an anniversary gift? :) > > > >As a matte

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds??? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:20:44 +0100 Julia Thompson wrote: > Sonja, would you like to get hardware as an anniversary gift? :) As a matter of fact I do get tools/hardware/software/DIY boo

Re: Scouted: Women prefer HDTV to Diamonds???

2002-11-19 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Julia Thompson wrote: > Sonja, would you like to get hardware as an anniversary gift? :) As a matter of fact I do get tools/hardware/software/DIY books or anything else usually considered as not really done/apropriate for the woman you love for any and all occasions. And I for one really love it

Scouted: Media boot camp diary

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
DISPATCHES FROM MEDIA BOOT CAMP Reporters attending the Pentagon's "media boot camp" are learning that chem/bio suits and masks don't protect against all gases. http://slate.msn.com/?id=2073993 "(Shameless Microsoft plug for Slate readers: The computers the Navy uses to fire Tomahawks run on Wi

Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:33 AM Subject: RE: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Verzonden: dinsdag 19 n

Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment > > > As for your worries about containers, anti-radar systems won't

Re: NASA

2002-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Verzonden: dinsdag 19 november 2002 4:23 > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: NASA > > > An editorial and accompanying news article from The Economist. > > > > John, hav

Re: Uh-oh!

2002-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson
"Horn, John" wrote: > > > From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > It seems I've killed the list! > > > > I don't think that was it. I think it's just been a combination of > > factors independently preventing people from posting, and > > that they all hit at once. > > Ah... the

RE: NASA

2002-11-19 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: dinsdag 19 november 2002 4:23 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: NASA > An editorial and accompanying news article from The Economist. John, have you ever considered the fact that posting articl

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 08:13:52AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > Hrm. If you include all the shorter pathways it's > > the sum of N! + (N-1)!...2! > > 3! + 2! = 8 None of which is relevant to the question of processing power of the brain. If you approximate the brain as a bunch of synapses (5E14, s

Complexity, nodes, state space (was RE: and so it begins)

2002-11-19 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of The Fool > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 5:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: and so it begins > > > > From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:06:02AM -0600, T

RE: Uh-oh!

2002-11-19 Thread Horn, John
> From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > It seems I've killed the list! > > I don't think that was it. I think it's just been a combination of > factors independently preventing people from posting, and > that they all hit at once. Ah... the list seems much better this morning! G

RE: ADSL and 802.11b

2002-11-19 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of William T Goodall [snip] > I don't think drive-by bandwidth thieves are at all common around here yet > either. Although in my urban environment there could be around 20 > households > in range [guess]

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread The Fool
> From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 07:11:29AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > > From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:06:02AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > > > But the number of possible pathways between any two nodes is the > > > > fact

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: > >> Consider three nodes, A,B,C. > > we have 3 starting nodes > we have 2 second nodes > we have 1 third node > > 3 * 2 * 1 = 6 = 3! > Why should the brain use _all_ the nodes? You might use nodes A,C. So, it's 2^n and not n! Wait!!! Maybe - in a four-node bra

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 07:11:29AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:06:02AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > > But the number of possible pathways between any two nodes is the > > > factorial. > > > > By the way, I don't think even that

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread The Fool
> From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:06:02AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > But the number of possible pathways between any two nodes is the > > factorial. > > By the way, I don't think even that is right. > > Consider three nodes, A,B,C. we have 3 starting nodes we

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread The Fool
> From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:06:02AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > But the number of possible pathways between any two nodes is the > > factorial. ^^^All > By the way, I don't think even that is right. > > Consider three n

Re: 24

2002-11-19 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> Did they _also_ shift _Smallville_ from 21:00 to 22:00 >> so that it would compete with _Angel_ instead of >> _Buffy_? > > Here, Smallville has always been in the same time slot 20:00. > Ok - but do you have the "Tuesday Vampires" double session with Buffy + An

Re: 24

2002-11-19 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 5:37 AM Subject: Re: 24 > Ronn Blankenship wrote: > > > > I teach a class on > > Tuesday nights, so I have to record it (along with > > _Buffy_, _Smallville_, and _J

Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:52 PM 11/18/2002 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: >Well, I certainly didn't say that. Russia is too poor. But, Russia'a >agreement doesn't come without a price. My guess is that the price for the >agreement here and there is a blind eye to any Russian human rights abuses. Ok, don't take this wron

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: > > Which comes out to about (5*10^14)! pathways. >(this is an astronomical number, much larger than the > projected # of subatomic particles in the > universe). > Bah. I bet economists will come up with something that beats even this number (10^1642281460717540 or so)

Re: 24

2002-11-19 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn Blankenship wrote: > > I teach a class on > Tuesday nights, so I have to record it (along with > _Buffy_, _Smallville_, and _JAG_) > Did they _also_ shift _Smallville_ from 21:00 to 22:00 so that it would compete with _Angel_ instead of _Buffy_? Watching too much TV Maru Albert

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:06:02AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > But the number of possible pathways between any two nodes is the > factorial. By the way, I don't think even that is right. Consider three nodes, A,B,C. We have: {no connections} {AB} {AC} {BC} {AB,AC} {AB,BC} {AC,BC} {AB,AC,BC} for

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:06:02AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > But the number of possible pathways between any two nodes is the > factorial. You just changed to "possible pathways". We were discussing actual pathways. > You have to calculate every single pathway, 200! Why? The brain doesn't form ne

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread The Fool
> From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 04:25:19AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > > From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 12:17:35AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > > > I doubt their calcutions for human brain processing power are > > correct. >

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 04:25:19AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 12:17:35AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > > I doubt their calcutions for human brain processing power are > correct. > > > > Their calculations are in the right ballpark;

Re: and so it begins

2002-11-19 Thread The Fool
> From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 12:17:35AM -0600, The Fool wrote: > > I doubt their calcutions for human brain processing power are correct. > > Their calculations are in the right ballpark; definitely they aren't > clearly incorrect. Here's a message Bob Chassel

Re: 24, (was Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball))

2002-11-19 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 11:35 PM 11/18/02, Russell Chapman wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: I only watch about 4.5 hours of TV a week (Alias, the Simpsons, 24, the West Wing, and Law & Order) I was surprised to see 24 there - is there a second series or something? Yes. How would they do that? It is several mo

RE: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment

2002-11-19 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: dinsdag 19 november 2002 5:36 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: Missile Defense in a New Strategic Environment > However, some list members rather voiciferously predicted that > withdrawing fr

RE: Litigation running rampant in the US.....

2002-11-19 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Ronn Blankenship > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: dinsdag 19 november 2002 5:09 > Aan: Brin Mail List > Onderwerp: Re: Litigation running rampant in the US. > What they prove is that Jereon's .sig line from a recent thread is > correct in such

Re: [Recipe] Chocolate cheese cake, Re: Grocery Shopping

2002-11-19 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Ticia wrote: > Steve Sloan II wrote: > > Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > > > > > >>Haven't got a clue as to what Oreo is. > > > > > > Oreos are a brand of round chocolate sandwich cookies with > > white creamy stuff (mostly lard, I think) in the middle. > > Hydrox is another brand that makes a