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Van: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002 0:00
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
Jeroen wrote:
That problem has been remedied; as of right now, www.brin-l.com is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The natural conclusion to this string would be in the form of a mass petition
to Kevin Lenagh asking him to do aditional drawings of various aliens' elbows
and butts.
Just to bring the string back to a Brin topic; - )
Not sure if I should be proud or
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 11:24 AM 12/16/02 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Sonja wrote:
I finally did it. Finished the bathroom late yesterday evening.
Steve replied:
Congratulations! :-)
Ditto! Now the question becomes, how long will it take for the men in
your life to break it?
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 -- Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by limiting the drugs doctors can
prescribe to
low-income
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 05:45 PM 12/16/02 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 -- Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by
d.brin wrote:
Hi folks.
The version of my essay on Tolkien now up at:
http://salon.com/ent/feature/2002/12/17/tolkien_brin/index.html
is a shortened version.
nice cover art!
The longer, more erudite version, going into HG Wells and such, is at
http://www.davidbrin.com/tolkienarticle1.html
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Van: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002 1:53
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: br1n: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
I'm now well into my seventh year on this list and I still barely scrape
into
Hi all,
Some of you may remember me, some of you probably don't, so I'll
re-introduce myself for the benefit of y'all...;)
I was a member of BRIN-L back in the day way before it moved to
mccmedia (a new surprise for me). I was subscribed for something like 5
years but eventually unsubbed for
Jim says
At its core, LotR is about the little guy standing up and doing
what's right. Gandalf and Aragorn don't defeat Sauron. A hobbit
does.
This is a core element of storytelling that cannot be eliminated. I
have written extensively that Suspicion of Authority SOA is the core
western myth.
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=236
yawns and quits reading after ~ 1/4 article
There are much better parodies and indictments out
there. A sci-fi short story from ~ 20 years ago (it
was in a collection of stories
d.brin wrote:
My objection is at the level of adults. Lucas and Tolkien hated
everything about our revolution. They yearn for feudalism. I'll
fight them with my dying breath.
Tolkien did *not* yearn for feudalism. His story - that was set
around Year 4000 b.C. - was set in a world with a
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:29:05PM -, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
His own political ideas were different, as we can see from his
_Letters_ [there's a book with c.350 of them]. For example:
Letter #52: (29 Nov 1943, to his son Christopher, who was at a
training camp in Manchester)
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Van: Damon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002 7:36
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Back
Hi all,
Some of you may remember me, some of you probably don't, so I'll
re-introduce myself for the benefit of y'all...;)
Damon! Long
d.brin
The longer, more erudite version, going into HG Wells and such, is at
http://www.davidbrin.com/tolkienarticle1.html
Some corrections:
Verlyn Flieger quotes Tolkien:
They wanted to have their cake and eat it: to live in the mortal historical
Middle Earth because they had
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002580930,00.html
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From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Brin: feudalism is evil, why it must be eradicated (long)
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:29:05PM -, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
His own political
Dan Minette wrote:
So, there could very well be a system in which there is very little power
at all, headed by a powerless king or queen who simply is a personification
of the nation as a whole.
This is more or less what Stuart LaJoie wants the Moon to become,
at the end of _The Moon is a Harsh
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
You know, that would be funnier if Bob as a religious figure hadn't
already been taken. I'm reading the thing, and waiting for
the slack
punchline, and it never comes. Highly irritating.
Do you mean by the Rugrats? ;-)
- jmh
(For those
At 18:50 2002-12-16 -0500, Jon wrote:
When I was in Montreal last February, I remember seeing a newspaper
article about a bombing (or perhaps a bomb threat?) at a coffee shop chain
that had an English name and refused to change its name into French. The
article indicated that terrorist
Horn, John wrote:
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
You know, that would be funnier if Bob as a religious figure hadn't
already been taken. I'm reading the thing, and waiting for
the slack
punchline, and it never comes. Highly irritating.
Do you mean by the
From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wierd news: French crack down on Internet pronunciations
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:59:30 -0500
At 18:50 2002-12-16 -0500, Jon wrote:
When I was in Montreal last February, I remember
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bob
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:28:12 -0600
Horn, John wrote:
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
You know, that would be funnier if Bob as a religious figure hadn't
already
Doug Pensinger wrote:
Has anyone else noted the correlation between the party in power in the
White house and the state of health care (crisis / copacetic)?
Wasn't the state of health care pretty lousy under Clinton too?
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:54:01AM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:29:05PM -, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
His own political ideas were different, as we can see from his
_Letters_ [there's a book with c.350 of them]. For
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Van: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002 1:53
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: br1n: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
I'm now well into my seventh year on this list and I still barely scrape
into
entire article is posted.
Jon
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/17/genes.race.reut/index.html
Race not reflected in genes, study says
Tuesday, December 17, 2002 Posted: 10:17 AM EST (1517 GMT)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The idea of race is not reflected in a person's
genes, Brazilian
At 18:07 2002-12-16 -0600, rob wrote:
Its just that to most of the rest of the world, the artificial constructions
and great lengths taken to keep french pure are a bit humorous.
keep french pure, is that a quote you got from somewhere or is that
your opinion? I'd rather say that I like it to
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: br1n: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:41:55 +0100
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Van: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002
While I couldn't agree more with the statement, am I wrong in my
perception that the present administration has in it's sights the
compromising of said revolution?
Doug
The revolution has worse enemies than romantics. The old feudalists
are always lurking. Always scheming.
Be afraid.
Alberto
Gandalf WAS a ring lord. He held one of the Elves' original 3 rings,
dedicated to self-righteously keeping Middle Earth static.
(stagnant.)
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Jean-Louis Couturier wrote:
I'm sorry you feel that way. When I learned English, I found that
there are
words, idioms and proverbs which do not exist in French and which
communicate
ideas which simply did not exist for me previously. Not only is the
reverse also
true, but learning _any_
Maybe the reason he was a good storyteller was because he was hopelessly
naive about reality?
Erik Reuter
An Oxford don... naive about reality? Naww
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The revolution has worse enemies than romantics. The old feudalists are
always lurking. Always scheming.
Can you define your terms? What is an old feudalist? I assume you are using
the term (incorrectly) as a pejorative?
Damon.
From: Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The revolution has worse enemies than romantics. The old feudalists
are
always lurking. Always scheming.
Can you define your terms? What is an old feudalist? I assume you are
using
the term (incorrectly) as a pejorative?
Go. read. Otherness. Now!
Go. read. Otherness. Now!
Capitalism is inherently feudalist.
This is an old gripe I have about the term I used to crusade against back
when I was on the list. As a historian, feudalism to me is a social
contract in which a specific service is exchanged for payment in kind. My
gripe is
From
http://www.myinky.com/ecp/news/article/0,1626,ECP_734_1612737,00.html
Student peers pick two girls as cutest pair
By MARTHA IRVINE AP national writer
December 16, 2002
CRETE, Ill. - Their story has played out like the name of a popular lesbian
movie: The Incredibly True Adventure of Two
Shealtiel, Zerubbabel, and Eliakim are common to both Matthew's geneology
and Luke's, but in a different order.
Matthew 1:12-13
12 After the deportation to Babylon
Jeconiah became father to Shealtiel;
Shealtiel became father to Zerubbabel;
13 Zerubbabel became father to Abiud;
Abiud became father
At 14:06 17-12-2002 -0500, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote:
I'm sorry you feel that way. When I learned English, I found that there are
words, idioms and proverbs which do not exist in French and which communicate
ideas which simply did not exist for me previously. Not only is the
reverse also
To their surprise, they found maternal DNA suggested that even the white
people had, on average, 33 percent of genes that were of Amerindian ancestry
and 28 percent African.
This suggested European men often fathered children with black and Indian
women.
This suprise must be an editorial
Jeroen -- who, 20 years later, speaks Dutch and English fluently, has only
a basic grasp of German remaining, and has even forgotten how to curse in
French (which was one of the first things I learned in French class).
I'm surprised that you have only a basic grasp of German, given the
At 14:15 17-12-2002 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
We're only 500 posts from 100K? How many GB is that?
The Great Brin-L Archive currently measures approx. 330 MB (in the form of
Eudora mailboxes (one for each day); don't know how much it would be if all
of it were converted to HTML, but
The revolution has worse enemies than romantics. The old
feudalists are always lurking. Always scheming.
Can you define your terms? What is an old feudalist? I assume you
are using the term (incorrectly) as a pejorative?
Damon.
Those who want a return to pyramid-shaped
I'm sorry you feel that way. When I learned English, I found that there are
words, idioms and proverbs which do not exist in French and which communicate
ideas which simply did not exist for me previously. Not only is the
reverse also
true, but learning _any_ language will result in a more
It may be a trend¹, but some of the classrooms I teach in have black
boards (or green ones or even brown ones), whereas others have
whiteboards. Which means I get to haul around boxes of both colored chalk
and markers for school . . . plus markers for overhead transparencies
(eventually, I
David Brin wrote:
Gandalf WAS a ring lord. He held one of the Elves' original 3 rings,
dedicated to self-righteously keeping Middle Earth static.
(stagnant.)
But that letter discusses another kind of ring lord: Gandalf as
_the_ Ring Lord, Gandalf with the One Ring. BTW, expect a
flood of hate
At 16:23 17-12-2002 -0500, Damon Agretto wrote:
Jeroen -- who, 20 years later, speaks Dutch and English fluently, has
only a basic grasp of German remaining, and has even forgotten how to
curse in French (which was one of the first things I learned in French class).
I'm surprised that you
Those who want a return to pyramid-shaped hierarchical/inherited social
orders.
Yes, yes, I know that some pedants will define 'feudalism' narrowly to
restrict it to a strictly Tenth Century European system of obligation
exchanges between feif-holders and vassals. Snore.
Boring to YOU. But
(¹And in a trend I hope someone nips in the bud, the science labs in a
new building built only a couple of years ago have *no* boards or other
writing surfaces of any color or type, meaning that when any of us has a
class in there, we have to haul in an easel with either a portable
On 17 Dec 2002 at 14:15, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Several ex-brinnellers are active on other mailling lists i read
irregularly, including two who are active on the Culture. Gord's
More than that. Less me now.
I tend to hang out at Baen's Bar these days.Mr. Crick - Corpnews (www.corpnews.com)
From one current thread, in which Dr. Brin defends his idiosyncratic use of
feudalism:
Those who want a return to pyramid-shaped hierarchical/inherited social
orders.
Yes, yes, I know that some pedants will define 'feudalism' narrowly to
restrict it to a strictly Tenth Century European system of
Sorry to send this to the list, but I'm checking on something odd that
happened to my last message. (No, not the version I accidentally sent
under another, non-subscribed id.)
It looked like the list software stuck a gratuitous greater-than character
on everything before the last bit I quoted.
Hmmm.
One last test, this time with the greater-thans without spaces. (So
everything before the following line with Sorry is being typed sans
greater-thans.):
Sorry to send this to the list, but I'm checking on something odd that
happened to my last message. (No, not the version I
just john wrote:
Sorry to send this to the list, but I'm checking on something odd that
happened to my last message. (No, not the version I accidentally sent
under another, non-subscribed id.)
It looked like the list software stuck a gratuitous greater-than character
on everything before
From:
Toward
Beside
From
Fromme, Ethan
Fromaldehyde (sic) to all de other hyde ...
Something non-frommish
Fromage, le Grand
just john wrote:
Sorry to send this to the list, but I'm checking on something odd that
happened to my last message. (No, not the version I accidentally sent
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Do you mean by the Rugrats? ;-)
No, I mean what Adam posted. The Church of the Subgenius has been
around longer than Rugrats. (Maybe it's a homage to CoSg?)
Actually, I knew that. That's why I put in the smiley. I don't think
Rugrats
- Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by limiting the drugs
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
after a specified time (to be researched/negotiated),
if the person returned to the deadly behavior, care
At 01:21 PM 12/17/02 -0800, d.brin wrote:
The revolution has worse enemies than romantics. The old feudalists are
always lurking. Always scheming.
Can you define your terms? What is an old feudalist? I assume you are
using the term (incorrectly) as a pejorative?
Damon.
Those who want a
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 09:37:22PM -, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
David Brin wrote:
Gandalf WAS a ring lord. He held one of the Elves' original 3 rings,
dedicated to self-righteously keeping Middle Earth static.
(stagnant.)
But that letter discusses another kind of ring lord: Gandalf
David Brin wrote:
Gandalf WAS a ring lord. He held one of the Elves' original 3 rings,
dedicated to self-righteously keeping Middle Earth static.
(stagnant.)
But that letter discusses another kind of ring lord: Gandalf as
_the_ Ring Lord, Gandalf with the One Ring. BTW, expect a
flood of hate
At 04:30 PM 12/17/02 -0500, just john wrote:
I'm sorry you feel that way. When I learned English, I found that there are
words, idioms and proverbs which do not exist in French and which
communicate
ideas which simply did not exist for me previously. Not only is the
reverse also
true, but
At 11:06 PM 12/17/02 +, William T Goodall wrote:
Genetically it makes more sense to lump people together by invisible
features like (say) blood group than by visible ones like skin/eye/hair
colour.
Perhaps . . . but wouldn't that mean you'd have to give everyone you meet a
blood test
--- just john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I wrote]
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
after a specified time (to be
At 03:31 PM 12/17/02 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
- Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to
And ask the Angosians about tinkering with their
soldiers neuropsych' profiles! (Next Gen episode: the
surviving veterans were permanently quarantined
because of their aggression.) As Evil Overlady (the
government) I would not make such a foolishly
dangerous mistake. ;)
Okay, if we're talking
At 07:05 PM 12/17/02 -0600, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 11:06 PM 12/17/02 +, William T Goodall wrote:
Genetically it makes more sense to lump people together by invisible
features like (say) blood group than by visible ones like skin/eye/hair
colour.
Perhaps . . . but wouldn't that mean
At 08:32 PM 12/17/02 -0500, William Taylor wrote:
In a message dated 12/17/02 6:22:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Out of 60 or so emails so far, 50 have been laudatory. 5 questioning
and 5 politely nit-picky. Not one hate message
I hate pickles.
Especially
At 04:48 PM 12/17/02 -0500, William Taylor wrote:
(¹And in a trend I hope someone nips in the bud, the science labs in a
new building built only a couple of years ago have *no* boards or other
writing surfaces of any color or type, meaning that when any of us has a
class in there, we have to
- Original Message -
From: Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: Back
Hi all,
Glad to see you back Damon.
I've wondered how you have been!
xponent
Time Travel Maru
rob
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Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Most unhealthy foods are not unhealthy unless consumed in excessive
amounts and/or to the exclusion of other foods, leading to an
unbalanced diet. Who will be the food police to check out the
contents of everyone's cabinets and refrigerator? Or will there be
In a message dated 12/17/2002 7:30:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Take your entire class out onto the grass, and write your class notes in
chalk on the side of the administration building.
I thought the time-honored medium for writing on that
- Original Message -
From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Wierd news: French crack down on Internet pronunciations
At 18:07 2002-12-16 -0600, rob wrote:
xponent
Two years Of High School
Quoth Russell C:
What's new is the smart card children use to buy this stuff. Parents
have the option to allow/disallow various foods by item or category, or
allow weekly quotas of specific foods/categories. Because parents aren't
giving the children cash to buy their lunch (as I received when at
- Original Message -
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: we hardly knew 'em posters... (Was: RE: br1n: [LINK] What
ScienceFiction A
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Docs article is making the rounds. This is from the China Meiville
mailing list.
xponent
Fill In The Maru
rob
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From: Goblin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [Runagate Rampant] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:43 PM
Subject: [RR] David Brin on The Lord of
Erik Reuter wrote:
Why should he expect hate mail? What is the big deal? He basically
says that it is a fun story. Is questioning whether the heroes of
the story are good role models for society such a bad thing to do?
One can enjoy the story but not idolize the
characters.
You must not
In preface, I think you took my 'Evil Overlady'
without her smileys... :)
--- Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
- Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
OTOH, where *does* one¹ hold the line on health
costs?
_
¹Be that one the government, an HMO, a private
--- just john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I wrote]
And ask the Angosians about tinkering with their
soldiers neuropsych' profiles! (Next Gen episode:
the surviving veterans were permanently quarantined
because of their aggression.) As Evil Overlady
(the government) I would not make such a
At 12:45 PM 12/18/02 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
What's new is the smart card children use to buy this stuff. Parents have
the option to allow/disallow various foods by item or category, or allow
weekly quotas of specific foods/categories. Because parents aren't giving
the children cash to
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Okay, so we outlaw alcohol, tobacco, and all other
recreational drugs
(including coffee and tea?), as well as
unhealthy/excessive food.
How do we do that?
The Twinkie Police.
You have the right to keep your mouth shut.
on 18/12/02 1:32 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/17/02 6:22:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Out of 60 or so emails so far, 50 have been laudatory. 5 questioning
and 5 politely nit-picky. Not one hate message
I hate
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shealtiel, Zerubbabel, and Eliakim are common to
both Matthew's geneology
and Luke's, but in a different order.
Matthew 1:12-13
12 After the deportation to Babylon
Jeconiah became father to Shealtiel;
Shealtiel became father to Zerubbabel;
snippage
- Original Message -
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: fun with jesus geneology
Shealtiel, Zerubbabel, and Eliakim are common to both Matthew's geneology
and Luke's, but in a different order.
There are
--- Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2002/12/17/tolkien_brin/index.html
By now a familiar theme, but very well expressed --
it's been fun
watch it get refined over the last couple of years.
You know, I still hold fast to my
Firstly, I'd like to thank everyone for one of the nicest welcomes I've had
yet on the internet.
- Original Message -
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
One
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How much do people care about their own health? (Was:
dorepublicans/politicians care...)
In preface, I think you took my 'Evil Overlady'
In a message dated 12/17/2002 10:06:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Debbi
who can't comment on Tytlals, but doesn't recommend
shaking a dreaming cat when it's wormed it's way under
the covers with you... ;)
Out of the covers can be dangerous as well.
This has been rattling around the net for a while. :-)
CAT BATHING AS A MARTIAL ART
1. Know that although the kitty cat has the advantage of quickness and
lack of concern for human life, you have the advantage of strength.
Capitalize on that advantage by selecting the battlefield. Don't try
I do not believe that technology strongly influences moral norms.
Psychiatrists and psychologists did not de-medicalize homosexuality or
inversion until the 1970's (I think).
If we could have played with our genes in 1950 or 1900 we would have targeted
the disease of sexual inversion. Many
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I wrote:]
snip
To open another COW, what do we do about
conditions which have genetic causes?
Shades of _Gattaca_...
Or of Heart of the Comet. I'm sure the Percells
would agree that
eliminating
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