Dan Minette wrote:
> I'd like to offer my congrats to Rob on his upcoming marriage. This has
> been a tough week for me, so I'm a bit slow in this.
Robert Seeberger is getting married???
Congratulations!!
Kevin Street
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From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: NASA Historical budget
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, Febr
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From: "Trent Shipley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> > Aerospace has hit a technological wall, as far as I can see. 30 year
old
> > designs are still competitive i
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From: "Gary L. Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:04 AM
Subject: RE: Happy happy
> > > I'd like to offer my congrats to Rob on his upcoming
> > marriage. This
> > > has been a tough week for me, so I'm a bit slow in
Nevertheless, aerospace continues to make strides in propulsion, avionics,
materials, and the design process itself.
I would agree with this. One of the industries that pushes the envelope in
terms of aircraft technology is obviously the military. 50 years ago having
the fastest performing fi
Have allocations changed?
I can see the 1960's budgets going to Cold War theatre.
There are (at least) three big parts to the NASA budget:
1) Manned space flight.
2) Unmanned solar-system exploration.
3) Basic Research (my favorite). Eg: fluid-dynamics, propulsion for civil
aviation, and unman
> > I'd like to offer my congrats to Rob on his upcoming
> marriage. This
> > has been a tough week for me, so I'm a bit slow in this.
> >
> Thanks!
> And I hope that things improve for you.
> You have always been one of the more consistantly friendly
> people on the list, good times, bad times
At 12:27 AM 2/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
Hi folks! Some science talk with a bit of fiction comes to mind.
Today's shubble uses two auxiliary chemical fuel rockets in addition to the
thrusters on the main bus to get orbital velocity.
The same effect could be duplicated with less mass and volume if o
At 09:02 PM 2/2/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=1559861
>
> Nuclear power
>
> A clever new design could lead to a kinder, gentler
> form of nuclear power
>
>
Such a reactor would certainl
> Aerospace has hit a technological wall, as far as I can see. 30 year old
> designs are still competitive in the commercial market head to head against
> modern designs. Contrast that with computers.
I do not think this is true. There are certainly some vernerable designs for
airframes--for e
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From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:51 PM
Subject: NASA Historical budget
> I did a bit of research, and have come up with the following numbers for
> NASA's budget decade by decade. For the '60s, I had
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From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:43 PM
Subject: Happy happy
> I'd like to offer my congrats to Rob on his upcoming marriage. This has
> been a tough week for me, so I'm a bit slow in this.
>
Thanks!
A
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: S
I did a bit of research, and have come up with the following numbers for
NASA's budget decade by decade. For the '60s, I had to do a bit of
estimation for '60 and 61, but the number shouldn't be too far off, because
that was before the NASA budget really took off.
In constant 2002 dollars the bud
Doug Pensinger wrote:
>
> Erik Reuter wrote:
>
> >
> >Julia displays good spelling. Are you predicting the worst for her
> >marriage?
> >
> She may just be expert at using a spell checker. I'm a terrible
> speller, but my mail program automatically checks all outgoing messages.
I do not use a s
Hi folks! Some science talk with a bit of fiction comes to mind.
Today's shubble uses two auxiliary chemical fuel rockets in addition to the
thrusters on the main bus to get orbital velocity.
The same effect could be duplicated with less mass and volume if only we
develop materials that can wi
I'd like to offer my congrats to Rob on his upcoming marriage. This has
been a tough week for me, so I'm a bit slow in this.
Dan M.
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Robert Seeberger wrote:
...
>
> The photographer invited The Chronicle to view the photos on his computer
> screen Saturday night, and they are indeed puzzling.
>
> They show a bright scraggly flash of orange light, tinged with pale purple,
> and shaped somewhat like a deformed L. The flash appea
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=1559861
>
> Nuclear power
>
> A clever new design could lead to a kinder, gentler
> form of nuclear power
>
> IT SOUNDS impossible: a nuclear reactor that
> generates electricity
> from n
http://www.quicken.com/investments/news_center/story/?story=NewsStory/dowJ
ones/20030202/ON200302021701000273.var&column=P0DFP
Bush's $2.23 Trillion Budget Proposes Tax Cuts, Deficits
Sunday, Febuary 2, 2003 05:01 PM ET Printer-friendly version
Associated Press
WASHINGTON --
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/suncommentary/la-oe-ian2feb02,0,263
0989.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dsuncomment
COMMENTARY
Don't Sever a High-Tech Lifeline for Musicians
By Janis Ian
The Recording Industry Assn. of America recently won a court ruling that
effectively will cut off the rec
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-12239076,00.html
The Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has given his first television interview in
more than a decade - to the former Labour minister Tony Benn.
It is expected to be broadcast within the next day or two.
Mr Benn told a news conference that Su
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:52:59PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Erik
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 10:28:04PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> The pictures, taken with a Nikon 8 camera on a tripod, reveal what
> appear to be bright electrical phenomena flashing around the track of
> the shuttle's passage,
electrogravitics!!
> but the photographer, who asked not to
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/02/MN221641.DTL
A San Francisco amateur astronomer who photographs the space shuttles
whenever their orbits carry them over the Bay Area has captured five strange
and provocative images of the shuttle Columbia just as it was re-entering
the
"Get that friggen camera outta my face ya damn idjit robot."
I think the shuttle disaster makes this line even more probable.
Man stays in space only in earth orbit for another 20 years as computers and
robotics advance.
And Jerry Pournelle's words become true.
William Taylor
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I'm sure most of you have been unable to avoid news reports showing the
impromptu memorial to Columbia at the NASA-JSC front gate.
It gives me a very strange feeling to watch news reports from a spot 2
blocks away from me.
I rollerbladed over there today with my son, so that he could see it, and
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:13:28PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> She may just be expert at using a spell checker.
Are you insulting Julia's spelling ability?
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Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 10:19:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I smell a scientific study here. Perhaps there is a gene for spelling
and fidelity. Here is how it might work. Good spellers have excellent
memory for irrelevant or dangerous information. Bad speellers can't
r
- Original Message -
From: "Russell Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> >Jeez Erik, you act like you think the shuttle is all NASA does.
> >I'm sure there
On 2 Feb 2003 at 18:03, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 04:57:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > BS
> Maru
>
> I don't think so. The shuttle is a money-burning behemoth. An
> alternative, modern space plane is needed. But they cancelled the
> program, presumably because the shuttl
On 2 Feb 2003 at 19:16, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> The reason I call it BS is because I'm one of those idiots who thinks
> they ought to triple NASAs budget, perhaps more.
>
> This is our future we are investing in.
To space. Not to NASA.
Dismantle NASA..it's an entrenched burocracy.
Andy
Dawn F
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:11:45PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> > Jeez Erik, you act like you think the shuttl
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> Now, this isn't exactly science or technology research (although many of
> their projects use or develop some new
In a message dated 2/1/2003 12:11:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In fact, I had an interesting existing story in mind.
> >
> > An actual on-topic story, perhaps?
>
> Got it in one.
>
> Now, I can't remember which collection it was in. Do I go
> upstairs and look
> th
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:52:59PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
>
>
> >Steam's density can be controlled
>
(1) You _did_ notice the smiley face, didn't you?
(2) Remember that I was a USAF officer, and so am a little prejudiced . . .
Yes, and I was in the Army (obviously) so I AM prejudiced too ;)
And I didn't know you were in the USAF until AFTER I sent the message...
That's ok cause A-10s are
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From: "Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: "scouted": Francyphilis
> >From: "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: BRIN-L Mailing list <[EMAIL PR
- Original Message -
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
>Steam's density can be controlled
> very finely, so it can be used to slow passing neutrons to ensure that
> they
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 10:19:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I smell a scientific study here. Perhaps there is a gene for spelling
> and fidelity. Here is how it might work. Good spellers have excellent
> memory for irrelevant or dangerous information. Bad speellers can't
> remember how to
Does money grow on trees in your parts, Rob? It doesn't in Washington
(see link below). Where do you think all this money is going to come
from? Maybe after the fairies and elves get done installing your fiber
to the home broadband connection 100Mbps for only $19.95, they will
build NASA a space v
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Jeez Erik, you act like you think the shuttle is all NASA does.
I'm sure there are places where they could be more efficient but they are
operating on a minimal budget.
But what they are showing the public is pretty poor return to the
public. Who really cares about how
In a message dated 1/30/2003 11:08:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> A sense of humour. Also, since neither Zim or I can spell (I did finally
> catch that 'anniversary' in the subject was wrong), maybe
> that has
> something to do with it
I smell a scientific study h
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:11:45PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> Jeez Erik, you act like you think the shuttle is all NASA does.
Jeez, Rob, are you on drugs?
> I'm sure there are places where they could be more efficient but they are
> operating on a minimal budget.
$15 BILLION is not minimal
- Original Message -
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:50:37PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> > NASA has been pretty much starved to death s
In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:47:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Those are some of the shocking but unavoidable post-9/11 messages of many
> Hollywood films shot pre-9/11 - films that would likely not
> get produced
> today. (At least, not uncensored.)
As to Dune: As
Now, this isn't exactly science or technology research (although many of
their projects use or develop some new technology), but this is another
example of efficient use of money. Ashoka is my favorite charity, by the
way.
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/98jan/ashoka.htm
excerpts:
And entrep
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:50:37PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> NASA has been pretty much starved to death since Nixon.
Let me starve on $15 BILLION per year
> It should come as no surprise.
It sure as hell surprises me!
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"Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter
Here's an example of efficient use of research money. He says he can see
whether it works for only $2M!!! Even if it costs 200 times that, it is
cheaper than a single shuttle launch.
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http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=1559861
Nuclear power
Hail, Caesar
Jan 30th
- Original Message -
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:16:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > The reason I call it BS is because I'm one
Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
>
> > On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:16:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> >
> > >
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:18:49PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > But what comes to mind right off is that N
In a message dated 1/30/2003 7:37:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Let's be really clear on this. French and German
> policy has consistently been to weaken any and all
> attempts to depose or weaken Saddam.
Re: France and Germany:
See Thomas Friedman's op ed piece in t
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:16:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> The reason I call it BS is because I'm one of those idiots who thinks
> they ought to triple NASAs budget, perhaps more.
That would be more than $150 per person or about $450 per household,
just for NASA. Unless NASA starts spend
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:18:49PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> But what comes to mind right off is that Nasa (and most gov. agencies)
> give contracts to the lowest bidder, though hindsight sometimes tells
> one that it might have been better to have spent more money at the
> offset.
Hindsig
- Original Message -
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:16:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > The reason I call it BS is because I'm one
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:16:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> The reason I call it BS is because I'm one of those idiots who thinks
> they ought to triple NASAs budget, perhaps more.
I don't. Not until it can be demonstrated that NASA can make efficient
use of the money. There are lots of g
At 08:45 PM 2/1/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 06:32:17PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
> > Someone on one of my other lists posted this link:
> >
> > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/28/1043534050248.html
> >
> > My BS detector started going of
At 11:22 PM 2/2/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Three Scenarios of what happened to Columbia
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:44:53 -0800
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [m
In a message dated 2/2/2003 5:14:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I don't need no stinkin' test to know I'm probably a bathroom limerick . . .
::immediately puts a cover over the bucket::
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 04:57:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> > BS Maru
>
> I don't think so. The shuttle is
In a message dated 2/2/2003 5:53:36 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> So what was it?
Nothing but a message calling the sellers greedy ghouls.
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At 12:09 PM 2/2/03 -0500, Gary L. Nunn wrote:
Looks like the eBay feeding frenzy has begun. Some of the prices (see
link below) are artificially being driven up by people pissed off that
this stuff is for sale.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z5DB12053
I have no response which is suitable for p
In a message dated 1/30/2003 12:25:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I wonder who is the longest married on the list? I'm
> guessing it might be
> >Jo Anne or Zimmy.
Jo Anne? I thought my wife was Ellen and we have been married for 33 years
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The Really Unfair Tax
Bush wants to drop the "double tax" on dividends, but that's nothing.
Wages withheld for Social Security may get hit three times, a burden on
far more (less wealthy) Americans
It seems to me the situation is worse than the reporters have outlined.
Many of
At 08:14 AM 2/2/03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
...
>
>
> Anything, as long as it is long enough to slip a (non-metallic) hacksaw
> blade into the spine before sending it?
>
>
Only i
At 09:34 AM 2/2/03 -0600, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
Something to lighten the mood a tad
http://quiz.ravenblack.net/poeticform.pl
I don't need no stinkin' test to know I'm probably a bathroom limerick . . .
--Ronn! :)
"Bathroom humor is an American-Standard."
_
At 07:58 AM 2/2/03 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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From: "Ronn! Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Wild Shuttle Speculation
>
> When people have said "_Columbia_ was too heavy to dock with the
Julia Thompson wrote:
Someone on one of my other lists posted this link:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/28/1043534050248.html
My BS detector started going off at the sentence "I am not a crank." :)
Other countries who have also committed funds and development expertise
to the F35 pr
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Hmm.. that's odd. When you're wearing your glasses, you look like..
you. But I've never seen u without them. Then again, when I look at
Fool, he looks an awful lot like you WITHOUT glasses..
Nah, it can't be. It's too easy. It would never work. ;-)
Well on his wa
Julia Thompson wrote:
Someone on one of my other lists posted this link:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/28/1043534050248.html
My BS detector started going off at the sentence "I am not a crank." :)
Anyone better at ferreting out the BS in the details want to take a crack at
pointing o
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Three Scenarios of what happened to Columbia
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:55:51 -0800
> Do you think that Columbia's final mission may have included a
> secret agenda
> related to Irak? I don't e
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Three Scenarios of what happened to Columbia
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:44:53 -0800
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Robert Seeberge
William Taylor wrote:
>
>> BTW, has anyone ever been edified by a visit to the Gor IRC chatrooms?
>>
>> Its ugly, really ugly.
>
>You mean you can see the chainmaile bikinis through your modem?
>
Chainmail _bikinis_??? I had a different idea about Gor. Sorry for
the recomendation. Yes, I didn't
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 04:57:19PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> BS Maru
I don't think so. The shuttle is a money-burning behemoth. An
alternative, modern space plane is needed. But they cancelled the
program, presumably because the shuttle was taking most of NASA's
budget. I don't necessarily
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shuttle tiles
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:46:06 -0600
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/space/1761260
Shuttle's fragile tiles under scrutiny Associated Press
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The th
Jim Sharkey wrote:
>
> Deborah Harrell wrote:
> >Never Read Gor - Those Covers Were A Turn-off Maru
>
> Consider yourself fortunate. I read a few as a teen. Know what's scary?
> IIRC, my *mom* got them for me, since she knew how much I liked
> fantasy/SF/D&D. Had she only read them before hand
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030210-418518,00.html
A spacecraft is a metaphor of national inspiration: majestic,
technologically advanced, produced at dear cost and entrusted with precious
cargo, rising above the constraints of the earth. The spacecraft carries our
secret h
Deborah Harrell wrote:
>Never Read Gor - Those Covers Were A Turn-off Maru
Consider yourself fortunate. I read a few as a teen. Know what's scary? IIRC, my
*mom* got them for me, since she knew how much I liked fantasy/SF/D&D. Had she only
read them before handing them over, I can't imagine
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > BTW, has anyone ever been edified by a visit to
> the Gor IRC chatrooms?
> >
> > Its ugly, really ugly.
>
> You mean you can see the chainmaile bikinis through
> your modem?
Ouch!
Recalling what Keith Hamilton-Cobb said about
On 2 Feb 2003 at 17:26, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>
>
> Nick Arnett wrote:
> >
> >If you were sending books to a 25-year-old young man who's into punk,
> >skateboarding and such, who tends to always want to be very cool...
> >what science fiction would you recommend?
> >
> I've heard that the _G
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
> Do you think that Columbia's final mission may have included a
> secret agenda
> related to Irak? I don't ev
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>I've heard that the _Gor_ books are quite good
0_o
Never say that again, not even in jest. I'll have to sic the Brin-L Death Squad on
you. :-)
Jim
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And holding to the sound and useful rules,
Not
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-03d.html
Efforts to ban space-based weaponry, by international treaty and American
legislation, are directly harmful to space development. Practical, effective
means of defending space-based assets can ensure the growth of
infrastructure and enable the establish
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Slightly unusual book suggestion request
> In a message dated 2/2/2003 1:33:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >
> > BTW, has anyone
In a message dated 2/2/2003 1:33:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> BTW, has anyone ever been edified by a visit to the Gor IRC chatrooms?
>
> Its ugly, really ugly.
You mean you can see the chainmaile bikinis through your modem?
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From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Slightly unusual book suggestion request
>
>
> Nick Arnett wrote:
> >
> >If you were sending books to a 25-year-old young man who's into punk,
>
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish the news folk would at *least* give some lip
> service to the fact that
> the video they're showing over and over reflects
> seven people dying...
>
> I'm close to turning off the television.
Terrible.
I cried all the way to the stable; my first
The Fool wrote:
> However, one could argue that the double tax on Social Security and
> Medicare, which affects every working person, has grown inequitably
> large. For much of Social Security's existence, it mattered little
> because the tax rate was low and the amount of earnings subject to tax
Nick Arnett wrote:
>
>If you were sending books to a 25-year-old young man who's into punk,
>skateboarding and such, who tends to always want to be very cool... what
>science fiction would you recommend?
>
I've heard that the _Gor_ books are quite good
Alberto Monteiro
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"Adam C. Lipscomb" wrote:
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> Something to lighten the mood a tad
>
> http://quiz.ravenblack.net/poeticform.pl
I am heroic couplets; most precise
And fond of order. Planned and structured. Nice.
I know, of course, just what I want; I know,
As well, what I will do to make it so.
Thi
"Gary L. Nunn" wrote:
>
> Looks like the eBay feeding frenzy has begun. Some of the prices (see
> link below) are artificially being driven up by people pissed off that
> this stuff is for sale.
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z5DB12053
>
> But this one is my favorite.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.
> As I said it would yesterday in the title tat no one has been
> changing.
> William Taylor
Plase, you have been around here long enough to know that's not
likely to happen. I am sure it would violate some sort of unwritten
Brin-L rule, not to mention making things much too convenient.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: Three Scenarios of what happened to Columbia
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Ro
http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,1429_W_769069,00.html
Naples police arrest 28 Pakistanis
Police in the Italian city of Naples claim to have uncovered a terrorist
al Qaeda "sleeper cell" while arresting 28 Pakistanis living inside a
single apartment in the city last Wed
> From: Z Fool
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030203-411439,00.html
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The Really Unfair Tax
Bush wants to drop the "double tax" on dividends, but that's nothing.
Wages withheld for Social Security may get hit three times, a burden on
far more (less wealthy) Americans
By DONALD L. BARLETT AND JAMES B. STEELE
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REX RYSTEDT FOR TIME
If the double tax on Social
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Robert Seeberger
...
> I had to look to see if it was The Fool posting.
> Seems more his style.
Haven't you noticed that I frequently respond to The Fool's postings?
You've never seen the two of us i
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