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RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-13 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Miller, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 februari 2003 23:45 Aan: Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford. Onderwerp: RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 februari 2003 3:16 Aan: 'Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford.' Onderwerp: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright But what

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-13 Thread Richard Baker
Reggie said: Will no one stand up for Rose McGowan or Holly Marie Combs? :-) I will stand up for the latter! Rich GCU No Added Value ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-13 Thread Richard Baker
Jim said: Now, Alyssa Milano on the other hand... :-) Does _Charmed_ have Holly Marie Combs who used to be in _Picket Fences_ too? Rich, who found himself unable to watch it because the five minutes he saw reminded him of one of those Hallmark tv movies that his mum watches (the ones whose

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-13 Thread Richard Baker
Jose said: I thank you for your review. MacLeod's books will definitely be on my list. So will be Reynolds'. I think that MacLeod's earlier Fall Revolution books are pretty good on the whole too. The first one, _The Star Fraction_, is obviously a first novel, but the second and later ones

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-13 Thread Richard Baker
Rob said: Phillip Pullman = excellent fantasy The Golden Compass The Subtle Knife The Amber Spyglass These books are wonderful. You might have to look for them in the Children's Fiction section though; I certainly had to do so. (In Europe, at least, they're now available in Child and Adult

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-13 Thread Richard Baker
Julia said: Which ones are the second and third? MacLeod's books fall into two series, which inhabit different future histories: The first series are the Fall Revolution books (also known as the Norlonto books and probably by some other collective titles). These are _The Star Fraction_, _The

Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords

2003-02-13 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:38 PM 2/12/2003 -0600, you wrote: The Fool wrote: A second counter-intuitive aspect of power laws is that most elements in a power law system are below average, because the curve is so heavily weighted towards the top performers. In Figure #1, the average number of inbound links

Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:28:29AM -0800, Matt Grimaldi wrote: I'm assuming that it's an html email, with links to various images and scripts on some server somewhere. The idea would be to compose the spam with links that get rendered as the (un)desired ad without using so much bandwidth and

mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-02-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: Just noticed that myself... We upgraded to the latest released version of Mailman, This is bigotry. You should use Mailperson Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Abortion, Miscarriage, and Subsequent Premature Births

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 10:50:08PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: According to _Planning Your Pregnancy and Birth, Third Edition_ by The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (copyright 2000), having 1 abortion will have no effect on future pregnancies, but having more than 1

Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 10:38:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: The Fool wrote: A second counter-intuitive aspect of power laws is that most elements in a power law system are below average, because the curve is so heavily weighted towards the top performers. In Figure #1, the average

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden:

Re: A Scientist Wishes He Was an Economist :) Re: Plus theNYTimesRe: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-13 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:43 PM 2/7/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: I just found a sheet I Xeroxed at Texas AM that contained data from the first part of the century. I forgot I had it, sorry. So, I went back to 1920. The results are a bit better for the Republicans: their mean annual increase in GDP is now 2.1% vs

Columbia

2003-02-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Well, it seems that I was right: the accident was caused by a piloting error Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:16:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

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2003-02-13 Thread G. D. Akin
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Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-13 Thread G. D. Akin
Check out Hominids and Humans by Robert Sawyer and Evolution by Steve Baxter. I'm in the middle of Coyote by Allen Steele . . . excellent planetary colonization novel. Originally published as a series of novella and novelettes. Stealing Alabama was Hugo nominee last year and The Between Years

RE: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-13 Thread Halupovich Ilana
Leo Frankowsky - Conrad's series - time travel Charles de Lint - Memory and Dream - urban fantasy Ilana ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright JJ Who cringes at the prospect of Bunker ever entering cyberspace... To take the easy shot, all us

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 07:45:29AM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: To take the easy shot, all us meatheads would have to stifle ourselves. I doubt if that show were made today if they would use the term meathead. Today, it sounds to me like an insult an AI robot or computer would use for a human.

Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:57:14AM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 10:38:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: The bell curve is an example where the mean, the median and the mode are all the same. In a great many distributions, however, this is not the case. Take, for

Re: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-02-13 Thread Ray Ludenia
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated Nick Arnett wrote: Just noticed that myself... We

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:43 PM 2/12/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Sonja GCU Windows into the soul... now that would be cool Having your soul crash ten times a day and have to be rebooted each time, and getting incomprehensible error messages from your soul whenever it _was_ running, would be

Re: ATL: X-Windows

2003-02-13 Thread William T Goodall
on 12/2/03 3:18 am, Jon Gabriel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! :) Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Reuter Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ATL: X-Windows

Re: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ray Ludenia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:20:48 +1100 Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Horn, John
From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I feel like adding a reminder that anyone can start a new list... snip This particular list, like Windows, has momentum that takes it out of the realm of pure regulation by competition, into a zone where one should adopt an attitude of

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Horn, John
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Should I? Oh, heck, just because you insist:o) I actually really don't care what notice people put at the bottom of their e-mail. I usually don't even bother to read them, because legally in the Netherlands there is no

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:27 PM 2/11/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: However, I still think the best way to handle this is for as many people as possible to state that they have adopted a policy of not replying to messages with legal notices. To be honest, I've just about stopped reading any messages with this

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:27:47 -0600 At 01:43 PM 2/12/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Sonja GCU Windows into the soul... now that would be cool Having your soul crash ten times a day

[SCOUTED] Well, this explains a lot

2003-02-13 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Ann Coulter = Chupacabra. http://www.suckful.com/archives/71.html Adam __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ___

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: I like William Browning Spencer. The man is insane. Resume With Monsters Zod Wallop The Return Of Count Electric Which one do you recommend starting with? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:55:51 -0600 From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Should I? Oh,

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Horn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 februari 2003 15:56 Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Onderwerp: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Should I? Oh, heck, just because you insist:o) I actually really don't care what

RE: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-02-13 Thread Nick Arnett
I will advise the developers. Mail carrier seems to be the PC term these days. Uh, that's politically correct. Is Linux PC? Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alberto

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-13 Thread Ticia
Damon wrote: Steve Sloan II wrote: I'm afraid that miniseries might be the last gasp, since it was probably commissioned before Sci-Fi's decision to kill Farscape, and get away from actual science fiction. So seriously though, what kind of content is the channel going to have other than SF?

Re: A Brave New World

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A Brave New World Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:25:23 -0500 The news reports this meeting that SAM Batteries have now been deployed throughout

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-13 Thread William T Goodall
on 10/2/03 10:52 am, Erik Reuter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:35:38PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I have taken VB and VBA on and find I actually like it a lot. Ugh. I don't do a lot under Windows, but one thing I would like to have is an alternative to MS Visual

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ticia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:31:24 +0100 Damon wrote: Steve Sloan II wrote: I'm afraid that miniseries might be the last gasp, since it was

Re: Brin: Condolences

2003-02-13 Thread d.brin
My condolences to you and your family. No one is really gone if we remember them. john My thanks again to all of you who have written. Empathy and cooperation made us rulers of the planet. Sympathy may yet save it. Oh... On the flight that took him to his resting place, in Jerusalem,

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
That's easy for you to say, Ronn. I wonder if you'd have the same opinion if you ran your own business and also hosted the Brin-L list on your own machine, thus exposing yourself to possible lawsuits, frivolous or otherwise. ___

Scouted: Lions Think All Humans Are Tasty Treats

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNewsstoryID=2223839 Humans Taste Good to All Lions, Not Just the Sick Thu February 13, 2003 10:27 AM ET LONDON (Reuters) - Humans make an attractive meal for all lions and not, as had traditionally been believed, just old and infirm

Scouted: William Gibson article on Salon.com

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.salon.com/tech/books/2003/02/13/gibson/print.html If anyone's interested in the full text, let me know. J Nodal point William Gibson talks about how his new present-day novel, Pattern Recognition, processes the apocalyptic mind-set of a post-9/11 world. - - - - - - - - - - - By Andrew

Humor: Top 9 Valentine's Gifts for Sci-Fi fans

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
I'd just as soon kiss a Wookiee! = TOPFIVE.COM'S LITTLE FIVERS -- SCIENCE FICTION http://www.topfive.com/fivers.shtml = February 13, 2003 The Top 9

Re: prisoner's dilemma

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
I've been thinking about this in my spare moments for the past few days and I think I have a solution. Hopefully there are no bugs in my strategy (please let me know if there are). Here it is: Choose one prisoner, call X Rest of prisoners called R --- Strategy for X:

Re: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: I will advise the developers. Mail carrier seems to be the PC term these days. Uh, that's politically correct. Is Linux PC? Linux will *run* on a PC. As for political correctness, who cares? If it's some form of unix, it's more correct than any OS coming out of

Re: Columbia

2003-02-13 Thread Bryon Daly
By the time thi sgets to the list, it'll probably already be long answered, but in any case: Alberto Monteiro writes: Well, it seems that I was right: the accident was caused by a piloting error Do you mean the Shuttle Columbia, or the recent airplane crash IN Columbia? I haven't seen anything

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/12/2003 9:18:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And Hoffnung took the trumpet mouthpiece and stuck it on 20 feet of garden hose. That bit is on the video that I also have. OK, *that* I want to hear. I don't

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Gary L. Nunn wrote: JJ wrote, Who knows? Maybe now we know what Archie Bunker would've wrote if he were a member of this list. :) Every post would have started out with someone being called Meathead. :-) Or dingbat. ;) Julia

Scouted: Nervous New York

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
A pretty accurate guage of NY attitudes. Thought it might be of interest. Jon February 13, 2003 Worrying About, Well, Stranger Behavior Than Usual By N. R. KLEINFIELD The city waits and the city worries. It looks left and right and behind it and above it. It has been doing this, in

Re: A Brave New World

2003-02-13 Thread Damon
The news reports this meeting that SAM Batteries have now been deployed throughout Washington, DC.The Avenger surface-to-air missiles can shoot down low-flying aircraft and helicopters. Its amazing to think that this is actually happening, since until now this had always been the stuff of

RE: I think we're really back now

2003-02-13 Thread Horn, John
From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Killer Bs Discussion This new To: line really messed up my filters that move all Brin-l mail to a separate folder. I couldn't understand why I came in this morning and had 50 new emails in my inbox! But I've adapted... - jmh

Blue Man Group (Was: Re: Oh Yeah!)

2003-02-13 Thread Bryon Daly
And Hoffnung took the trumpet mouthpiece and stuck it on 20 feet of garden hose. That bit is on the video that I also have. Speaking of odd instruments... Has anyone here seen Blue Man Group? They do some pretty great music using an assortment of twisted PVC pipe sections, amongst other things.

RE: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-13 Thread Horn, John
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] We contemplated having the legal bit done the day before, with a J.P., and then doing the church ceremony as planned. Dan told his mother about it a few years later, and she got upset. He pointed out that she never would have known, so

Re: prisoner's dilemma

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
By the way, I did consider that the program could end faster by allowing the R's to toggle switch B either on or off (if they had previously seen switch be change state) to send their signal. But I thought it would be more robust to add at least some possibility of error checking (even if it

ADMIN: List delays

2003-02-13 Thread Nick Arnett
I've had the server up and down a bit this morning, tweaking swap. I suspect this led to some mail delays. For those who might care (or imagine that things are more loosey-goosey than they are), mccmedia.com has a backup mail relay. It's in Canada, so if the big one hits the Bay Area, it'll

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Horn, John
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To take the easy shot, all us meatheads would have to stifle ourselves. I doubt if that show were made today if they would use the term meathead. Today, it sounds to me like an insult an AI robot or computer would use for a human. I don't

Anyone else with problems posting to this list?

2003-02-13 Thread Bryon Daly
Hmm. I sent a mail to this list yesterday and it has never shown up. This is the third time that's happened. Is anyone else having this problem? Not that I have anything incredibly important to say, but it's frustrating because I'm already on something like an 8-24 hour lag delay because I

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-13 Thread Bryon Daly
Resend of my MIA post from yesterday... Speaking of which: 3) Things *will* go wrong. Don't worry about 'em. Nobody but you and your wife will notice when things go wrong, and no one will remember 'em but you, either. 4) Remember that it's your day. Enjoy yourself. Be happy. Have fun! :) This

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:38:08 +0100 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:43:45 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Anyone else with problems posting to this list?

2003-02-13 Thread Gary L. Nunn
Hmm. I sent a mail to this list yesterday and it has never shown up. This is the third time that's happened. Is anyone else having this problem? Not that I have anything incredibly important to say, but it's frustrating because I'm already on something like an 8-24 hour lag delay

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: It's still stereotyping. It's still wrong. And, IMO, it's a rather hypocritical sentiment coming from someone who uses the phrase 'zero tolerence for intolerence' as part of his sig line. Isn't that somewhat oxymoronic, anyway? Julia

RE: Anyone else with problems posting to this list?

2003-02-13 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary L. Nunn ... I was having the same problem because I forgot to set my preferences to send plain text instead of HTML mail. Once I started sending in plain text, it started going through. This

RE: I think we're really back now

2003-02-13 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Horn, John Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:58 AM To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' Subject: RE: I think we're really back now From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Killer Bs Discussion

RE: Anyone else with problems posting to this list?

2003-02-13 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bryon Daly Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:50 AM To: Brin List Subject: Anyone else with problems posting to this list? Hmm. I sent a mail to this list yesterday and it has never shown up.

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:11:20 -0600 From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To take the easy shot, all

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
I sense a DOH! moment coming on Jose... Puerto Rico English may not be his native language... :-) Jon LOL!!! Good one. :) Puerto Rico has been a commonwealth/colony of the USA since 1898, after the end of the Hispanic-American war. I was educated by Dominican Sisters (from the

Re: Abortion, Miscarriage, and Subsequent Premature Births

2003-02-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: According to _Planning Your Pregnancy and Birth, Third Edition_ by The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (copyright 2000), having 1 abortion will have no effect on future pregnancies, but having more than 1

Re: prisoner's dilemma

2003-02-13 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: I've been thinking about this in my spare moments for the past few days and I think I have a solution. Hopefully there are no bugs in my strategy (please let me know if there are). Here it is: Choose one prisoner, call X Rest of prisoners called R

RE: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-13 Thread Horn, John
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] We got married at the courthouse on Wednesday and had the big church ceremony on Saturday. Didn't make much difference in the events though. I'm guessing it just makes you feel a little better, maybe a little more relaxed. And

Re: A Brave New World

2003-02-13 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 07:25 AM 2/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: The news reports this meeting that SAM Batteries have now been deployed throughout Washington, DC.The Avenger surface-to-air missiles can shoot down low-flying aircraft and helicopters. Its amazing to think that this is actually happening, since until

Re: prisoner's dilemma

2003-02-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Chose one Prisoner, M, that will count something. The other prisioners are P2, P3, ... P23 (n = 23?) Each prisoner P_n must switch A from 1 to 0, but he must do it just _twice_.. After that, and when he finds A in 0, he will only switch B Prisoner M will switch A from 0 to 1 whenever possible

Irregulars Question re: [SPAM] (fascinating) Dubya Fuhrer

2003-02-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
Did this happen to anyone else? I got a 10K SPAM message re: this post, and no text whatsoever. I've included a bit of the message (and saved the entire original if someone wants it); the first 'DF' post also had a long SPAM message, but included the text: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miller, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] You're not allowed to watch? Lemme guess: you're married? :-) [I don't know who wrote this] Not exactly, but one a clear day, I can see married from where we are. Oh dear! Not even married yet, and you

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-13 Thread Reggie Bautista
Julia wrote, about her wedding: We bought a whole lot of white cotton brocade, and my mom made the dress.) My wife Anita made the dresses for her bridesmaids and maid of honor (her sister) and Anita's mom made Anita's dress. On our first anniversary, Anita's mom gave us a Barbie doll with

Re: Blue Man Group (Was: Re: Oh Yeah!)

2003-02-13 Thread Reggie Bautista
Bryon wrote: Speaking of odd instruments... Has anyone here seen Blue Man Group? Only on the Intel commercials, and maybe once on Letterman (but I was half-asleep at the time). They do some pretty great music using an assortment of twisted PVC pipe sections, amongst other things. It's a

Re: prisoner's dilemma

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 05:41:26PM -0500, David Hobby wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: I've been thinking about this in my spare moments for the past few days and I think I have a solution. Hopefully there are no bugs in my strategy (please let me know if there are). Here it is: Choose one

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Kevin Tarr
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To take the easy shot, all us meatheads would have to stifle ourselves. I doubt if that show were made today if they would use the term meathead. Today, it sounds to me like an insult an AI robot or computer would use for a human. Hmmm..

Re: prisoner's dilemma

2003-02-13 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:16 PM 2/13/2003 +, you wrote: Chose one Prisoner, M, that will count something. The other prisioners are P2, P3, ... P23 (n = 23?) Each prisoner P_n must switch A from 1 to 0, but he must do it just _twice_.. After that, and when he finds A in 0, he will only switch B Prisoner M will

Re: Blue Man Group (Was: Re: Oh Yeah!)

2003-02-13 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: Blue Man Group (Was: Re: Oh Yeah!) And Hoffnung took the trumpet mouthpiece and stuck it on 20 feet of garden hose. That bit is on the video that

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-13 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ticia wrote: So how come nobody else picked up on Farscape? Wasn't it co-financed by the BBC? How hard is it to find new funding for such an excellent show with great DVD sales and enormous convention merchandising potential ??? One of the reasons that SciFi channel decided to cancel Farscape

Re: Abortion, Miscarriage, and Subsequent Premature Births

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:37:40PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: There is a great deal of controversy in the medical literature on any number of topics, ranging from the effectiveness of mammograms at preventing deaths secondary to breast cancer, to whether or not a high-protein diet is safe

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-13 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:51 PM 2/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: Resend of my MIA post from yesterday... Speaking of which: 3) Things *will* go wrong. Don't worry about 'em. Nobody but you and your wife will notice when things go wrong, and no one will remember 'em but you, either. 4) Remember that it's your day.

Re: Blue Man Group (Was: Re: Oh Yeah!)

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: We went up for a day in New York to celebrate my son Ted's birthday on Columbus day. We were in the second row. That's the time we got a suite on Times square for $220. They were great. The experience was much better than Stomp. The theater is very intimate, so that's

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:43 AM 2/13/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: That's easy for you to say, Ronn. I wonder if you'd have the same opinion if you ran your own business and also hosted the Brin-L list on your own machine, thus exposing yourself to possible lawsuits, frivolous or otherwise. I don't have a machine

Re: Abortion, Miscarriage, and Subsequent Premature Births

2003-02-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ummm, duh? I was asking about how contentious the literature was on a specific case, not in general. Stating the obvious is not helpful. shrug If you choose to ignore an offlist message, that is your right. Debbi

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi? Robert Seeberger wrote: I like William Browning Spencer. The man is insane.

Re: Abortion, Miscarriage, and Subsequent Premature Births

2003-02-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 05:27:51PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: If you choose to ignore an offlist message, that is your right. If you choose to post falsehoods and meaningless things in an agitated state, that is your right. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: I think we're really back now

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: In other good news, I straightened out some IP-based open relay blocking stuff, which is stopping even more spam. Doesn't affect the list much (except that anything that loads the mail server and Mailman slow them down), but makes life easier for the list managers. How

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Kevin Tarr wrote: Okay maybe there was a decline. The sitcoms were a reflection of society. The country was nesting, parents and kids interacting in the home. Same as AitF with younger kids, except now the kids were playing the Archie Role. With Cheers of course being

The Decline of the American Sitcom ( Was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL)

2003-02-13 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:23:22 -0500 The Jeffersons weren't bad either. I didn't know AitF was out on DVDbut

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-13 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:16:04 -0600 if you don't want something possibly made public at some future time,

RE: I think we're really back now

2003-02-13 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julia Thompson How does this IP-based open relay blocking work? I ask because awhile back, I was in the situation of all my outgoing mail going through a server that was known as an open relay; I got

Shuttle exterior was penetrated during descent

2003-02-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=54664 The space shuttle's skin almost was certainly pierced, allowing superheated air inside the left wing and possibly the wheel compartment during Columbia's fiery descent through Earth's atmosphere, investigators said Thursday. In its first significant

Re: The Decline of the American Sitcom ( Was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL)

2003-02-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Hi!! I'm going to keep riding on the sitcom themed-thread bandwagon. I took the liberty of changing the thread name a bit; hope this is kosher with everybody. Nobody will mind. :) It's something that ought to be done more often, but we're lazy about subject line

Virus May Block HIV's Destructive Power

2003-02-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/breaking_news/5174893.htm An ancient virus that has tagged along harmlessly through human evolution appears to improve people's chances of surviving AIDS by blocking HIV's ability to infect blood cells, new research shows. Several recent studies have

Japan threatens force against N Korea

2003-02-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2757923.stm Japan has warned it would launch a pre-emptive military action against North Korea if it had firm evidence Pyongyang was planning a missile attack. Defence Minister Shigeru Ishiba said it would be a self-defence measure if North Korea was going

[Listref] Modified Gene Therapy?

2003-02-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
This is a very brief article; there's a great deal of research to be done , but it shows promise. http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/60/67203.htm?printing=true ...It's called RNA interference or RNAi. Discovered only last year, it's an amazing tool. If you know the DNA code for any gene, you

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