Re: Ook.

2009-05-02 Thread Dave Land
On May 2, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Astronauts pay respects to 'space chimps' http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/05/01/astronauts.space.chimps/ Which, of course, reminded me of this, from the Onion: "Sherpa Who Led Neil Armstrong To Moon Dead At 71" http://www.theonion.com/

Re: Sausage surprise at Miskatonic University

2009-04-22 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 22, 2009, at 6:29 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But of course I was referring to the conspiracy-theory _secret_ nazi base. The secret nazi base in the other side of the Moon was found when the first spaceships mapped that place, and it was preemptively destroyed with the first successful ti

Re: Is this thing on?

2009-04-02 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:48 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: Alberto wrote: The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH, it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this is an evil thing that should be eradicated. Why is it evil, out of curiosity?

Pink Dolphin

2009-04-02 Thread Dave Land
Brinellers, Folks 'round here seem to have a great fondness for dolphins and various dolpin-related news. Also, from time to time, I believe that pink unicorns have been discussed. This is only natural in as august a body as Brin-L. Comes now the story of a pink dolphin in Louisiana:

Re: Quiet

2009-03-17 Thread Dave Land
On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:07 PM, William T Goodall wrote: since the Taliban imposed censorship on the list. Stone me Maru Dang. Turn my attention to work for a couple of days, and I miss all the hostilities. As for the stoning, did you have a preference? Igneous, sedimentary or metamorphic?

Re: Impossible account security questions.

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Land
On Mar 9, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: This morning, I was trying to access a credit card webpage to check my account, it didn't like my password. I was given two security challenge questions: 1. What is the last name of your fifth grade teacher? 2. What was the license plate of you

Re: One way to get your name in print

2009-02-10 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 10, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > Get laid off, get a mention: > http://www.informationweek.com/news/management/careers/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=213001013 > > I'm on the second page. > > The author and I worked together 20 years ago at InfoWorld. Evidently, you're following thi

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-10 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 09:26 PM Monday 2/9/2009, Dave Land wrote: >> On Feb 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: >> >>> At 06:53 AM Friday 2/6/2009, Pat Mathews wrote: >>> >>> >>>> http://co

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-09 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 06:53 AM Friday 2/6/2009, Pat Mathews wrote: > > >> http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ >> >> Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place. Global >> conspiracies are un-doable given the

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-07 Thread Dave Land
Pat, Thanks for this post. I just spent some time explaining to 11-year-old Ryan what a conspiracy theory was, and my own reasons why they tend to fall apart. I'll probably share some of this with him, if he's still interested. (He was a captive audience in the car in traffic on the way to

SCOUTED: XKCD on Space Elevators

2009-02-03 Thread Dave Land
Folks, You know it's been too long since you've wasted an hour at XKCD, so get on over there and see his take on Space Elevators (and the state of humor in America today). http://www.xkcd.com/536/ Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/l

Re: Flatland - The Movie

2009-01-31 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 31, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > http://www.flatlandthemovie.com/ > > This flew right under my radar. Anyone seen it? > I really loved the book, it is a treasure. Bought it and enjoyed it with Peggy and Ryan. It had Ryan wondering about higher dimensions for days afterwards. Th

Re: My robot is more popular than I am

2009-01-30 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Charlie Bell wrote: > >> >> On 30/01/2009, at 8:08 AM, Dave Land wrote: >> >>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: >>> >>>> Tweetsnet now has more Twitte

Re: My robot is more popular than I am

2009-01-29 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 29, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > Tweetsnet now has more Twitter followers than I do. > Competition between people writing robots and people detecting > robots is > leading to smarter software, I hope. As long as it's not more interesting than you are. Dave _

Re: Supernerds immortalized

2009-01-26 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > Especially for you SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) fans: > > When I created Tweetsnet, I didn't, for a moment, imagine it would > lead me > to find this Google maps image: > http://tinyurl.com/bevb9c > > Which, I suspect, shows my former b

Nikon D3 cut in half

2009-01-26 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Photography buffs may find these photographs of a Nikon D3 very neatly sawn in half either pornographic or disturbing, or both: http://budurl.com/wa6s At a Tokyo Eco Products convention in December, the author of the blog TokyoBling spotted this in a Nikon booth. There is a L

Re: Portal Gun

2009-01-22 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 22, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/30109...@n03/sets/72157612758626401/ I'm making a note here: huge success. I HAVE to show that to my son, who is a huge Portal fan. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailma

Re: Br!n: Congratulations! Today you get rid of... of... what'shisname?

2009-01-21 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 21, 2009, at 1:16 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: > I agree with that and with what David said earlier. But, I was also > interested in that it was balanced by other lines in the speech: > > " We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its > defense, and for those

Re: Metric Conversions

2009-01-15 Thread Dave Land
From: "Max Battcher" > I have to say that the best one of the lot is the 3L -- 2-Liter > Bottle. > It's always funny when someone asks how big a 2-Liter Bottle is in > metric... 3 Liters is a better response than some of the ones I've > used. When I forwarded this one around the engineering

Re: Calvin and Hobbes explain the bailout

2008-12-13 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:33 AM, Claes Wallin wrote: > Dave Land wrote: >> Folks, >> >> Bill Watterson is a certifiable genius: >> >> http://budurl.com/5c72 >> >> Published more than a dozen years ago (I don't have my son's box set >>

Re: What is wealth?

2008-12-12 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Dan M wrote: > I think there is some viability in the sociobiological argument that > wealth > increases the attractiveness of men as mates. But, if you look at > "the > selfish gene" as an embodiment of sociobiology, you see that wealth > has had > a paradoxica

Calvin and Hobbes explain the bailout

2008-12-12 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Bill Watterson is a certifiable genius: http://budurl.com/5c72 Published more than a dozen years ago (I don't have my son's box set handy to check the exact date). I sure miss that comic strip. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailm

Re: Financial institution fallout

2008-12-09 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 9, 2008, at 1:40 PM, John Williams wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Folks: unless you want more like this -- and see above, it's all >> there >> is -- don't feed the troll. > > The problem

Re: Financial institution fallout

2008-12-09 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:55 AM, John Williams wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Dan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: Well, I was hoping to set the ground rules for discussion. >>> >>> You do like trying to impose your rules on others, don't you. >> >> Actually, they aren't my rules. >

Re: Brin: Life after People

2008-11-29 Thread Dave Land
t; To when slaves all lived in bunkhouses like > American soldiers and never owned what we > Got nerves to think we are losing and the world > Is bam bam bozzled again and again run amuck >> From Ah Kinky Nashun where life is lived to > http://mahsstoryy.wordpress.com/category/relig

Re: Quantum physics

2008-11-29 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 29, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Euan Ritchie wrote: > >> Ooops, that non-sequitor was meant for another list. > > It was fine here, as far as I'm concerned. Coordinated nicely with Rob's "Matter is merely vacuum fluctuations" post of yesterday. Dave W

Re: Wal-Mart is evil, why it must be eradicated

2008-11-29 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 29, 2008, at 7:50 AM, John Williams wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Greed-addled shoppers crushed to death a temporary worker who was >> trying to open the doors for Black Friday sales. > > If the store we

Wal-Mart is evil, why it must be eradicated

2008-11-28 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Greed-addled shoppers crushed to death a temporary worker who was trying to open the doors for Black Friday sales. http://budurl.com/jezv Fscking people: Kimberly Cribbs, who witnessed the stampede, said shoppers were acting like "savages." "When they were saying they h

Re: Brin: Life after People

2008-11-28 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/27/2008 1:39:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> We might even have become gods and simply moved away! >> > > Only if we've paid off the mortgage. > > Hmm. story idea there somewhe

Re: [Humor] I'm Not One Of Those 'Love Thy Neighbor' Christians

2008-11-20 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: > ~ Who suspects the ORIGINAL version actually said: "whoever bitch- > slaps you > on your right cheek" Oh, a lot of the Bible has been mistranslated for "political correctness" like that. Matthew 16:23 is often rendered "Get thee behind me, Satan

Re: $290 billion down the government money hole

2008-11-14 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:05 AM, John Williams wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:26 AM, John Williams wrote: >> >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202846_pf

Re: $290 billion down the government money hole

2008-11-14 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:26 AM, John Williams wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202846_pf.html > > "Considering how taxpayers' money around Washington isn't respected, a > day shouldn't go by without having an inspector general checking on > it," > sa

Re: One more bit for Veterans Day

2008-11-12 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Olin Elliott wrote: >> As one of the comments says, "Not all heroes have two legs" > > Thanks for this, Ronn. I have worked for a group in the past trying > to get a national war dog memorial and the DOD has steadfastly > opposed it. A very different look at "the

Re: "Physicists are stirred by claims that the sun may change what’s unchangeable — the rate of radioactive decay"

2008-11-12 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > > Two possible implications of this: 1) Jenkins and Fischbach inadvertently discovered a new way to detect neutrinos (anyway, changes in neutrino f

Re: One more bit for Veterans Day

2008-11-12 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > As one of the comments says, "Not all heroes have two legs" . . . > > > Wow -- exactly the opposite from what I was thinking: Not all heroes have _only_ two leg

Re: Corrupt and inefficient government (was FDB)

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 10, 2008, at 12:19 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 10 Nov 2008 at 3:07, William T Goodall wrote: > >> On 9 Nov 2008, at 23:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >>> >>> part of the reason government sometimes makes bad decisions is >>> because it attracts corrupt people, easily influenced by greedy, >>

Re: Franklin Delano Bush

2008-11-08 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 8, 2008, at 1:41 PM, John Williams wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: >> i have long wondered, dave, why the government does not spend out >> taxes more efficiently. > > I have long since stopped wondering and simply accepted that the >

Re: Proud and relieved

2008-11-07 Thread Dave Land
> I had obama on a redeye flight from d.c. to chicago two years ago, > just before he declared. he was in my section so we chatted for > over a half hour. he was very gracious and charismatic. i still > have his card in my wallet and it got me into the v.i.p. suite last > night at the hy

Re: Unknown "Structures" Tugging at Universe, Study Says

2008-11-07 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 7, 2008, at 2:17 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > Perhaps of interest, or perhaps not, from > flow.html>: > Study leader Kashlinsky agrees many questions > remain unanswered. For starters: What exactly are > these things that a

Re: Franklin Delano Bush

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 4, 2008, at 12:11 PM, John Williams wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Building someone a better house because >> they need it is unwarranted government interference. > > Building someone a better hou

Re: Franklin Delano Bush

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 4, 2008, at 10:31 AM, John Williams wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Olin Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> The problem is that our economy has changed, and we no longer get >> the kind of "war boost" that we got during WWII. > > Alas, makes one yearn for the old days wh

When Atheists Attack (another in our endless series of cut-n-paste screeds)

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Land
Man threatens two Christians, may lose an eye (http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_10464829) COLORADO SPRINGS — A man who came to the home of two women whom he had threatened to decapitate with a knife received a blow to the head that could cost him an eye, according to Colorado Springs pol

Re: WikiPEDia

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:51 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > On 3 Nov 2008, at 23:37, Jon Louis Mann wrote: > >>> The difference is that, in this mailing list, trolls sign >>> the messages, so it's easy to spot them after 2 weeks. >>> Alberto Monteiro >> >> but how do we know they are using their real n

Re: Franklin Delano Bush

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Dan M wrote: > I think that the drop in unemployment from 1933 to 1937 is not the > subject of much argument. It's the reason for the following year's > rise > back up to 19% that sparks the arguments. Those who think that FDR > did > more harm than good cite pro

Re: Government regulation

2008-11-01 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 1, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> I'm done with this conversation since >> you ducked my question about what >> should replace government regulation. > > our resident troll does that a lot. i suspect he is an ayn rand > libertarian wannabe, or he just likes to agitate. one w

Re: Happy Halloween

2008-11-01 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 31, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > As the trick-or-treater came by tonight, I found myself tonight > remembering > going to the Isaly's house on Halloween and getting Klondike bars with > pumpkin pie flavored centers... Mmmm. The Isaly's company invented > the > Klondike bar...

Re: "The Sheep Look Up"

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 28, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> Perhaps there are 300 million other reasons, none of > >> which is "because I am a sheep", as you blithely assume, >> that explain my fellow Americans' inaction. > > you are absolutely correct, dave. i apologize, and should have not > made

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:51 AM, John Williams wrote: > Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> It's not about what I want. Or what you want. It is about what WE >> want, > > You may want it to be about what we want it to be about, > but that's not what I want

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:11 AM, John Williams wrote: > Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> What, exactly, is your point? > > Do you think other people should pay for your daughter's health > care while you should only contribute a small amount, even though > you could contribute much more? This is

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:50 AM, John Williams wrote: > Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Why would it be fair to contribute more? > > Why would it be fair to force others to pay for what you want? It's not about what I want. Or what you want. It is about what WE want, as expressed in the governme

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:30 AM, John Williams wrote: > Government spending uses taxpayer dollars. That is why government > spending should be kept to the bare minimum. You (and countless others) have put forward this claim again and again. It all depends on how you define "bare minimum", which is us

Re: death and taxes...

2008-10-27 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > Among the things you need to be extremely careful about are: 1) > unsupported assumptions; 2) inflammatory language; and 3) false > analogy. I am seeing many of these being used in accordance with the > principles developed by the Cult of Ran

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Dave Land
Folks, On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:28 PM, John Williams wrote: > Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons. > > Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades! Please lighten up on John. He's cornered and his messages sound lik

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Jon Louis Mann straw-manned: > a lot of people called congress, against the bailout, but the people > who didn't are the sheep and they are largely those who buy into the > war and straw man attacks against obama. I doubt very much that you actually know what was

Re: Racial and Gender bigotry

2008-10-27 Thread Dave Land
Maree, If, on your way South from Redding to Santa Monica you find yourself in the Bay Area (somewhat unlikely, if you're going via Yosemite, but hey), Nick and I are in the South Bay. I, for one, would welcome the opportunity to meet another list member in 3Space. Dave On Oct 25, 2008, a

Re: Racial and sexual balance

2008-10-24 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 23, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > Jon wrote: > >> it would be great if all inequites could be addressed without >> regard to race, sex, ethnicity, etc. however, cases where a >> minority is given preference over a white male, who may even be >> more qualified, to satisfy

Re: Future of the list / Questions?

2008-10-21 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 21, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Wayne Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Should it move to a newer type of platform? Facebook or a wiki >> maybe? Does the list have a life of its own? Does it somehow >> attract the type of member that

Re: Racial and religious bigotry

2008-10-21 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 21, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > >> At 04:03 PM Tuesday 10/21/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: >>> I might, or might not. Choosing someone for a public office >> >> — or any job — >> >>> based on their gender/religion*/ethnici

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-21 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 21, 2008, at 5:20 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 19 Oct 2008 at 19:07, Nick Arnett wrote: > >> I'll stop feeding him now and perhaps ponder just how much >> disruption the >> list managers should tolerate. A lot, of course, but sheesh... > > Said it before, say it again: You're far too

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Dave Land
William, Nick never threatened to censor you, however much you wish to interpret his email that way. He expressed concern "that your posts were a distraction and offensive to some who might otherwise participate" Seems he was right. Maybe the posts have dropped off because people got so damn sic

Re: Rock Around the World

2008-10-11 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Rceeberger wrote: > Below is a link for a Japanese band playing Deep Purple's "Burn", > but the > band's image is more like Kiss, and the onstage posturing is bad > enough to > be hilarious. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmOp3OVEwfE&NR=1 This one looks ready

Re: Gotta get me a digeridoo

2008-10-09 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 9, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Dave Land wrote: > >> On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Charlie Bell wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/10/2008, at 2:39 AM, Julia Thompson

Re: Gotta get me a digeridoo

2008-10-09 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Charlie Bell wrote: > >> On 10/10/2008, at 2:39 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: >>> I like hearing a Theremin. There's nothing in the world quite like >>> waking >>> up to a little blues group that includes a theremin. >> >> Espec

Re: Gotta get me a digeridoo

2008-10-08 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Perhaps I should. What sweet music we could make together, her >> puffing on her Digeridoo, me pounding on my Taiko... Maybe we >>

Re: Gotta get me a digeridoo

2008-10-08 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:<http://dominicaninjapan.blogspot.com/2008/03/taikobikusu.html> > >> I'm taking my first Taiko workshop this Saturday. Not sure how >> a

Re: Gotta get me a digeridoo

2008-10-08 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 8, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > I have severe sleep apnea... just heard about this old news. > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051224094017.htm > Didgeridoo > Playing Improves Your Sleep > > ScienceDaily (Dec. 24, 2005) — Regular didgeridoo playing reduces > snoring

Re: Forbes 535 vs. US Congress

2008-10-02 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 2, 2008, at 10:48 AM, John Williams wrote: > http://divisionoflabour.com/archives/005188.php > > > According to Forbes, the 400 richest people had a combined net worth > of $1.57 trillion. Let's simply assume the next 135 richest people > had the same net worth, though they surely didn'

Re: Senate's contribution to the bail-out

2008-10-02 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:35 AM, John Williams wrote: > Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Bloomburg article: > >>> ``This is how Washington works,'' said Keith Ashdown, chief >>> investigator at Taxpayers for Common Sense, a Washington research >>&g

Re: Senate's contribution to the bail-out

2008-10-02 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:16 AM, John Williams wrote: > It's one of dozens of tax breaks benefiting Hollywood producers, > stock-car racetrack owners and Virgin Islands rum- makers included > in the broader legislation in an effort to win support from House > Republicans, whose defection contribu

HuffPo: Sarah Palin may be a better debater than (most) think

2008-10-01 Thread Dave Land
Folks, An insightful article (http://url.ie/qxw) in the Huffington Post suggests that despite Sarah Palin's sketchy performance in situations where knowledge and understanding of issues are required, she proves to be a much more skilled debater because, as Andrew Halcro, 2006 Alaska gubernatorial

Re: Channeling...

2008-09-29 Thread Dave Land
\On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: > In this case, Jon claims that John Williams is >> channeling erstwhile list-member Eric Rueter with his gruff posts. > >>> I don't recall a list member of that name, but >> there was an Erik >>> Reuter. >> OK, Mr. Spelling Person, I

Re: $10

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Richard Baker wrote: > Dave said: > >> In this case, Jon claims that John Williams is channeling erstwhile >> list-member Eric Rueter with his gruff posts. > > I don't recall a list member of that name, but there was an Erik > Reuter. OK, Mr. Spelling Person, I sta

Re: $10

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> In this case, Jon claims that John Williams is >> channeling erstwhile list-member Eric Rueter >> with his gruff posts. >> Dave > > i guess eric was before my time, but i am not the one who accused jw > of channeling eric, i doubt jw is on t

Re: $10

2008-09-26 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > Jon wrote: > >>> You are Eric Reuter and I demand my 10 bucks. >> >> Who are you, John, who is Eric Reuter, and why does he owe you 10 >> clams? > > Eric is a former Brin-ler, a libertarian, and he didn't pull any > verbal > punches. He to

Re: Meltdown

2008-09-25 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:10 AM, Rceeberger wrote: > > On 9/24/2008 11:17:26 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: >> xponentrob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> >>> >> There's lots about this list and the people on it you know nothing >> about. >>> A lot of history here in over a decade. >> >>

Re: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 24, 2008, at 11:26 AM, John Williams wrote: > Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Golly, that sounds familiar. Echoes of the Iraq war, anyone? > > Those politicians are slippery. And how! What do others think about two bits of news from the American election this week: 1) The two campa

Re: Appropriate metaphors (was Re: Meltdown)

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 24, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> There is, of course, a remedy: find another list to dog. > > My dogs are offended by this. > > Let's stick to offending trol

Re: Wahh! (was Re: Meltdown)

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:16 AM, John Williams wrote: > Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> You're certainly not going to accomplish anything of value by coming >> in here and kicking everybody in the teeth. > > No, not everyone. Agreed: There are yet people who ha

Re: Meltdown

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Dave Land wrote: > >> On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:41 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: >> >>> Killfile Plus One Maru. >> >> Not here, for two reasons: >> >> 1) It doesn't work

Re: Meltdown

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:05 AM, John Williams wrote: > Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Wow... just asking the question "forces" you to go? > > Ummm, no? Try again. > >> This is perversely entertaining. > > So I guess I have something to look forward to when I get old > and senile? We don't co

Re: Wahh! (was Re: Meltdown)

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:09 AM, John Williams wrote: > From: Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Yah. Anyway. I can't be bothered with trolls, so I've solved the >> problem. Actually, Charlie, you haven't, entirely. The _list_, and not just your inbox is infected with this particularly pernicio

Re: Meltdown

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:41 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: > Killfile Plus One Maru. Not here, for two reasons: 1) It doesn't work -- I can block one person, but I can't block all the swirling eddies of replies and counter-replies that the obstacle generates. 2) This, too, shall pass -- Either the ta

Re: McCain Loses His Head

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 23, 2008, at 11:32 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > I'd like to say that I appreciate the civil tone Guatam has > maintained in the recent "Wall Street Meltdown" thread. Some might never thought it would come to this, but I miss Gautam: I have argued with Gautam in the past, which is fine, of

Re: Does it lead to the dump, to the dump, to the dump, dump, dump . . . ?

2008-09-21 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:35 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > Officials paving California road that plays William Tell Overture > > Yup. That's just what America needs: an excuse to drive back and forth over the same stretch of road for no

Re: Brief greetings of the day . . .

2008-09-19 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:26 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > r 'Tis a pithy one, that! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: ZPG

2008-09-18 Thread Dave Land
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> Probably less after she's already conceived than if she's >> asking friends/acquaintances for advice before doing so. >> After conception, it's kind of hard to change course in most >> cases. > > in this country, wom

Re: ZPG

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 17, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: > >> Many people (most of whom have children) say that being a >> DINK is its own reward. >> Children are expensive: much more expensive >> than the tax deduction offsets. >> . . . ronn! :) > > which is why those who can afford children will con

Re: ZPG

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 17, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 17 Sep 2008 at 13:46, Dave Land wrote: > >> Perhaps the reproduction tax incentive can be on a curve, with zero >> or >> less population growth being rewarded, over-reproduction being >> penalized: >>

Re: ZPG

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> Does "not telling anyone else what >> they MUST do with their body" >> extend to those who want to have children? >> If not, please justify why not. >> . . . ronn! :) > > I can't make them NOT have children, any more than I can make people >

Re: ZPG

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:32 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 10:24 PM Tuesday 9/16/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> >> just because i make the observation that there are too many people >> on the planet doesn't mean it is entirely my responsibility to >> correct the problem, ronn, any more than it is

Re: Fair Trade

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:01 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: > On 17/09/2008, at 8:52 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > >> Deciding who does and does not get to have children (or deciding how >> many they're allowed to have) is in the same class of problems as >> deciding who lives or who dies. > > But noting that

Re: Vasectomy

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: > It is all the people who have MORE children than Jon who are the real problem! >> >>> He had 2. >>> I have 3. >>> Can I really help that the second pregnancy was with >>> *twins*? (And no,

Re: Free Market

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Charlie Bell wrote: >> >> Oh, I thought it was just what tax is - it's giving up some of your >> wealth to pay for roads, schools, infrastructure, basic health needs >> and basic support for society. >> > In theory. In practice, tax is used to

Re: 08:00 UTC

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 10, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Ronn! Blankenship < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 30 minutes after LHC startup and we still seem to be here . . . >> >> Could Be An Illusion I Suppose Maru > > As long as it is the same illusion, I'm satisfied. >

Re: Sarah Palin

2008-09-02 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 30, 2008, at 5:23 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > > On 30 Aug 2008, at 23:48, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: > >> Even if you don't give a fuck about people with Down Syndrome, >> remember that, not long ago, someone else started doing the >> same thing, and he-who-should-not-be-men

Bizarre Thread Intersecton

2008-09-01 Thread Dave Land
Folks, In reading about Vaccine Safety, I came across this article that seemed pretty reasonable: http://url.ie/nsv But about half-way down, I came across a word I'd never seen before, except on a recent thread right here on Brin-L: "intussusception". Coincidence, or what? Dave __

Re: vaccines and autism

2008-09-01 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 30, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> The reason to give shots early is that's when the >> immune system is >> doing its major formational work, "learning" as >> much as it can as fast >> as it can. Vaccination is more likely to be effective for >> different >> diseases at differe

Re: Welcome to Hyperinflation!

2008-08-29 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Dave Land wrote: > On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > >> Ronn! wrote: >> >>> Or just remember the Carter administration. >>> >>> He Said During The Campaign That Four Percent Inflation Was >>&

Re: Welcome to Hyperinflation!

2008-08-29 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > Ronn! wrote: > >> Or just remember the Carter administration. >> >> He Said During The Campaign That Four Percent Inflation Was >> Unacceptable So When He Got Into Office He Made It Twenty-Plus >> Percent Maru >> >> Cite? Might Ronn! be conf

Re: Enough!

2008-08-29 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:34 AM, John Garcia wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Did anyone catch The Speech? I was inspired and I think against >> all odds >> that he has a chance. What a watershed moment in the history of >> humanity >>

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