[cayugabirds-l] Loon watch Trip tomorrow Nov 14

2015-11-13 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
Weather forecast is for Northwest wind and low temperatures. So hopefully we will have a decent flight tomorrow. Many loons have accumulated on the lake so earlier part of the morning might be better. On Saturday, November 14, Wes Blauvelt will lead a Loon Watch at Taughannock State Park,

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Geo Kloppel
If it's true that the issue has already been resolved (last year, as Ken suggests), perhaps the city should take a cue from other regional entities (the State Parks, the Finger Lakes Land Trust, the Finger Lakes Trail Conference, the Arnot Teaching Forest, etc.), and just post the rule

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Carl Steckler
Yet another good reason to buy a Duck Stamp. That way you can show your support for conservation and that you are not against their activity per say, just the location. I am willing to bet that if you showed that you too had a duck stamp and explained your concern that this is a city park

[cayugabirds-l] Turkey Vultures

2015-11-13 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
Hi all, Turkey vultures in this stiff west wind are enjoying themselves I think. They are flying across the wind at 90 deg and falling a free fall and then arrest themselves and again dribble down in the wind and back. So it is such fun to watch their behavior over computer screen. As for

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread bob mcguire
Thanks, Dave, for staying with this. The City code is clear: No person shall carry, transport or possess any firearm of any nature in the park, but this section shall not apply to duly constituted peace officers. Limited use of archery equipment, supervised as part of a program provided by the

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Guns in the park

2015-11-13 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
Hi all, Just a reminder, as a few seem to forget each year, of some key points: Hunting is LEGAL. Guns are LEGAL. Harassing legal hunting activity is a CRIME. Birding, hunting and other wholesome outdoor activities are NOT mutually exclusive. And one personal observation. The sight of a gun

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Elaina M. McCartney
Here is a non-political early-morning photograph taken from the densely populated southwest shore of Cayuga Lake 24 October 2015 showing rowers heading out from the inlet in a northwest direction past my house for their usual morning practice. The occupants in the boat to the right had set up

[cayugabirds-l] Franklin's Gull on Cayuga Lake

2015-11-13 Thread Jay McGowan
Earlier this afternoon Luke Seitz had an immature FRANKLIN'S GULL heading south from Taughannock State Park. Checks of Stewart and Myers in the last hour have proven fruitless, although I had an interesting bird far to the north from Stewart, but it stayed too distant to be sure of anything. This

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Geo Kloppel
Hi Gary, That's correct. The state has long reserved to itself the sole authority to regulate hunting. In the case of waterfowl hunting at Stewart Park, the state authority trumps any interpretation of the city ordinance that would ban hunting on or in the state-owned waters of the lake, even

Re:[cayugabirds-l] Franklin's Gull on Cayuga Lake

2015-11-13 Thread Jay McGowan
At 2:29 perhaps the same FRANKLIN'S GULL flew north past Myers with two Bonaparte's. It continued out of sight. Jay On Nov 13, 2015 2:24 PM, "Jay McGowan" wrote: > Earlier this afternoon Luke Seitz had an immature FRANKLIN'S GULL heading > south from Taughannock State Park.

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Guns in the park

2015-11-13 Thread Jim Borden
Amen Gary. You said what I tried to say in a clearer manner Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Gary Kohlenberg wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just a reminder, as a few seem to forget each year, of some key points: > > Hunting is LEGAL. > > Guns are LEGAL.

RE: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
When this issue was discussed last year Alicia Plotkin had apparently done research on court rulings applicable to this. Begging her indulgence I copied the response to Geo below in 2014. In 2005 the Ithaca City Court ruled that only the State of New York can regulations activities in or on

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Peter
Dave wrote: "After the cops drove off, the leader of the guys, the big one, said I had won today, but if this happened again they'd call the cops on me for harassing them. I asked, if what happens?" Great come-back Dave. I guess they don't understand that if they obey the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Kevin Koss
If one goes to the City of Ithaca code site (ecode 360) and searches "guns" or "hunting", you will find information on the ban on the discharge of a gun in the city and also of the ban on hunting in the city. The word "firearms" will direct to Article ll which defines the restriction in Stewart

[cayugabirds-l] MONTEZUMA WINTER RAPTOR SURVEY

2015-11-13 Thread David Marsh
The 2015/2016 Montezuma Winter Raptor Survey season will begin November 18th. Surveys have been conducted annually at Montezuma since 2010, and will be conducted weekly on Wednesdays, one half hour before sunset to one half hour after sunset. Surveyors follow an established protocol. We need

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread David Diaz
My guess is that these hunters thought they were conducting themselves in a manner consistent with NYSDEC regs, meaning that they have the right to waterfowl hunt on Cayuga Lake as long they don't fire in the direction of a dwelling that's less than 500' away (among other things). They also

[cayugabirds-l] Cinnamon Hybrid WAS still there.

2015-11-13 Thread M Miller
Spent 20-30 minutes watching the hybrid Blue-winged/Cinnamon Teal at LaRues Lagoon (Montezuma) when a tug boat went smoking & chugging up the canal and spooked all the ducks & geese on LaRues. Most of them seemed to land in the main pool, but unable to relocate the hybrid teal. Hoping it will

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg
Hi all, Before this annual listserv discussion escalates once again, I would like to point out the whole issue of hunting within the Ithaca city limits was discussed with the Mayor and city government last winter and, from what I heard, resolved. John Dennis — Ithaca resident and birder — led

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Deirdre Anderson
Although I am no longer an Ithaca resident, it warms my heart to see that as always, Dave is looking out for his fellow birders and the citizens of Ithaca by standing up to those men. Keep up the good work Dave and please keep posting your birding adventures! They make me feel like I am back

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Guns in the park

2015-11-13 Thread Linda Orkin
I stand in support of Dave Nutter's account of illegal carrying of guns in a park where birders and other non-consumptive users congregate. It is important to alert people to a potentially dangerous situation. I can see this thread is quickly going to degenerate into pro versus con but I

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Jim Borden
I have an issue with this being on the bird list--each of us may I have our phobias and this list is no place for politics--the tenor of the description of the incident makes it political for methe mere mention of guns around the kids is a biased statement all by itself. On 11/13/2015 7:54

[cayugabirds-l] Guns in the park

2015-11-13 Thread Rod Davis
Mr. Borden is correct. The post by Mr. Nutter was not appropriate for this forum. The political tone was especially revolting. Posting the license numbers is so far over the top that I am disgusted. I shall send a formal complaint to the list administrator. (I suppose I should include the license

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
Dave, thanks for sharing your encounter with the List, because this potentially affects anyone who intends to go birding at Stewart Park or in the nearby areas, if this kind of activity is seasonally permitted from such a widely and publicly used space. Does the Cayuga Bird Club have an

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Laura Stenzler
Dave, It is great that you followed through on all of this! It sounds like an intimidating situation, but you did not back down. I think it would be worthwhile to share your experience with your city representative and the Major. I just read in the Ithaca Journal this morning that all Ithaca