[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Ali via cctalk]

> I'm watching a video talking about Protoweb and one of the ftp sites
> that they are talking about is ftp.compaq.com.
> 
> The video in question is:
> 
> Link - Protoweb - Reviving the '90s Internet! (Overview & Demo)
>   - https://youtu.be/1FSd-XhGLqk
> 
> I'm interested in checking out Protoweb for various reasons, but I
> figured that I'd let you, and fellow cctalk subscribers, know about the
> ftp.compaq.com archive.

Grant,

Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get to the actual 
archive on protoweb. I am sure it is some sort of config problem on my end. I 
will have to play with it some more this weekend. TBH I would be surprised that 
they have an older mirror/more complete mirror. Archive.org actually has an ok 
selection of crawls from Compaq.com but they of course never got any files from 
the FTP.

-Ali

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Henry Bent via cctalk]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 22:48, Grant Taylor via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 7/10/23 10:54 AM, Ali wrote:
> > Hello All,
>
> Hi Ali,
>
> > I am wondering if anyone has a private or knows of a mirror for
> > ftp.compaq.com that is older than 2014?
> I'm watching a video talking about Protoweb and one of the ftp sites
> that they are talking about is ftp.compaq.com.
>
> The video in question is:
>
> Link - Protoweb - Reviving the '90s Internet! (Overview & Demo)
>   - https://youtu.be/1FSd-XhGLqk
>
> I'm interested in checking out Protoweb for various reasons, but I
> figured that I'd let you, and fellow cctalk subscribers, know about the
> ftp.compaq.com archive.
>

You could have just said "there's a site that set up a proxy server for
browsing a moderate number of old mirrors of HTTP and FTP sites" and linked
to that site instead of sending us a link to a youtube video.

It's https://protoweb.org/ and this definitely seems to be aimed at an
audience that wasn't alive when these browsers and websites were around.
If it was aimed at the cctech crowd it could have been a very simple
webpage that explains that they have an HTTP/FTP/Gopher proxy server at
wayback.protoweb.com:7851 and you can then go to www.inode.com to see
what's available.  Instead that information is hidden under multiple layers
of bizarre hand-holding.

-Henry

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Grant Taylor via cctalk]

On 7/10/23 10:54 AM, Ali wrote:

Hello All,


Hi Ali,

I am wondering if anyone has a private or knows of a mirror for 
ftp.compaq.com that is older than 2014?
I'm watching a video talking about Protoweb and one of the ftp sites 
that they are talking about is ftp.compaq.com.


The video in question is:

Link - Protoweb - Reviving the '90s Internet! (Overview & Demo)
 - https://youtu.be/1FSd-XhGLqk

I'm interested in checking out Protoweb for various reasons, but I 
figured that I'd let you, and fellow cctalk subscribers, know about the 
ftp.compaq.com archive.




Grant. . . .

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Grant Taylor via cctalk]

On 7/10/23 1:18 PM, Ali wrote:

Hi Grant,


Hi Ali,


I am currently looking for the following:

Firmware for the MSL5000 Tape Library (version 5.20). The file name
would be something like Nextgen_520.bin. The MSL5000 is a rebranded
Overland library. Apparently you could have used the original
Overland firmware in the MSL5000 as well but Overland doesn't have
any of the info/files up on that model any more either after the
merger with Tandenberg...

The manual for the SW5450 Switch Manual and any FW updates (not sure
if there was any).

Any FW later then 1.01 for the SW332x series of dual speed switches.


I happened to have my CD binders out yesterday looking for something 
else and paid attention as I flipped past the Compaq CDs (having 
recently seen / replied to this thread).


It seems as if all the CDs that I have are Compaq SmartStart CDs, likely 
for the various ProLiants that I've had over the years.  I think there 
was a firmware maintenance CD that was also for the ProLiants.


Do you think that there is any chance that the tape library software / 
firmware would be on them?


If so I can get them back out and search them.  But I'd like to have a 
better idea what I'm looking for before embarking on such a search.


I am happy to (slowly over the next week?) do so if you think it's 
worthwhile for me to do so.



TIA!

You're welcome.

Please let me know if you think it's worth my while to search or at 
least generate a directory listing to provide for and to you for your 
searching.




Grant. . . .

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Ali via cctalk]

> I am surprised the original Compaq diagnostics for 5 1/4"- native
> systems
> and early DOS and even OS/2 are not someplace

Bill,

I think those are out there. I believe the last version for DOS was 8.x and 
that is in the first 500 Softpaqs. I can find the exact number for you if you 
are interested.

-Ali

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Ali via cctalk]

> I can't help with the mirror, but maybe I can help with the old
> spinning
> plastic that I have related to ProLiants and / or StorageWorks stuff.
> 
> Please clarify what you're looking for and I'll see if anything I have
> is germane.

Hi Grant,

I am currently looking for the following:

Firmware for the MSL5000 Tape Library (version 5.20). The file name would be 
something like Nextgen_520.bin. The MSL5000 is a rebranded Overland library. 
Apparently you could have used the original Overland firmware in the MSL5000 as 
well but Overland doesn't have any of the info/files up on that model any more 
either after the merger with Tandenberg...

The manual for the SW5450 Switch Manual and any FW updates (not sure if there 
was any).
Any FW later then 1.01 for the SW332x series of dual speed switches.

TIA!

-Ali

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

I am surprised the original Compaq diagnostics for 5 1/4"- native systems
and early DOS and even OS/2 are not someplace

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 1:07 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I just found this the other day, but I see the update date in in 2014 so
> it may not be of use.
>
> http://ftp.zx.net.nz/cgi-bin/archive-mirror
>
> There is some info about libraries under the Storageworks folder.
>
> https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/archive/ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/storageworks/
>
> --
> John H. Reinhardt
>
>
> On 7/10/2023 10:54 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I am wondering if anyone has a private or knows of a mirror for
> > ftp.compaq.com that is older than 2014? All the ones I have found
> online,
> > including the file at archive.org, are from 2014. By then a number of
> files
> > and directories had been purged e.g. "/pub/supportinformation/techpubs"
> and
> > "softlib1". I am looking for some old documentation and firmware for
> Compaq
> > switches and Tape Libraries but if anyone has a full set of files I am
> happy
> > to add them to a mirror. TIA!
> >
> >
> > -Ali
>

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Grant Taylor via cctalk]

On 7/10/23 10:54 AM, Ali wrote:

Hello All,


Hi,

I am looking for some old documentation and firmware for Compaq 
switches and Tape Libraries but if anyone has a full set of files I 
am happy to add them to a mirror. TIA!
I can't help with the mirror, but maybe I can help with the old spinning 
plastic that I have related to ProLiants and / or StorageWorks stuff.


Please clarify what you're looking for and I'll see if anything I have 
is germane.




Grant. . . .

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Ali via cctalk]

> I just found this the other day, but I see the update date in in 2014
> so it may not be of use.
> 
> http://ftp.zx.net.nz/cgi-bin/archive-mirror

John,

Thanks. Actually I have been talking to David (the maintainer/owner of that 
mirror) and he doesn't have those files either.

> 
> There is some info about libraries under the Storageworks folder.
>

 
> https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/archive/ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/storagewo
> rks/

Thanks I will check it out.

-Ali

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[John H. Reinhardt via cctalk]

I just found this the other day, but I see the update date in in 2014 so it may 
not be of use.

http://ftp.zx.net.nz/cgi-bin/archive-mirror

There is some info about libraries under the Storageworks folder.

https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/archive/ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/storageworks/

--
John H. Reinhardt


On 7/10/2023 10:54 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote:

Hello All,

I am wondering if anyone has a private or knows of a mirror for
ftp.compaq.com that is older than 2014? All the ones I have found online,
including the file at archive.org, are from 2014. By then a number of files
and directories had been purged e.g. "/pub/supportinformation/techpubs" and
"softlib1". I am looking for some old documentation and firmware for Compaq
switches and Tape Libraries but if anyone has a full set of files I am happy
to add them to a mirror. TIA!


-Ali

[cctalk] OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

[Ali via cctalk]

Hello All,

I am wondering if anyone has a private or knows of a mirror for
ftp.compaq.com that is older than 2014? All the ones I have found online,
including the file at archive.org, are from 2014. By then a number of files
and directories had been purged e.g. "/pub/supportinformation/techpubs" and
"softlib1". I am looking for some old documentation and firmware for Compaq
switches and Tape Libraries but if anyone has a full set of files I am happy
to add them to a mirror. TIA!


-Ali

Re: ftp.compaq.com mirror

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017, Adrian Graham wrote:
of the whole ftp site but it?s 220gb and I?m not sure my little 150mb/s 
web connection will download that in less than a month :)


You should think about the proper usage of units...

If "gb" is gigabytes, then "mb" is megabytes. With a 150 megabytes/s link 
downloading the whole archive should be very comfortable. OTOH if "mb" is 
megabits, then with 220 gigabits, it isn't that a huge archive.
In addition to that, "m" (minuscule M) stands for "milli", "M" 
(majuscule M) stands for "mega" and "G" for giga, so 150mb/s would be 150 
millibytes/second. Oh yes, "bytes" is abbreviated with a majuscule B.

==> 220 GB, 150 Mbits/s

;-)

Christian

Re: ftp.compaq.com mirror

[Adrian Graham via cctalk]

> On 8 Aug 2017, at 20:30, Eric Christopherson via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Managed to rescue a Compaq Deskpro EN from the scrap pile at work today
>> and realised it has a proper floppy controller so I can install a 5.25”
>> drive.
>> 
>> Trouble is ftp.compaq.com  has disappeared so
>> getting drivers for win98 is going to be difficult unless I have them at
>> work on old driver CDs. archive.org  has a mirror of
>> the whole ftp site but it’s 220gb and I’m not sure my little 150mb/s web
>> connection will download that in less than a month :)
>> 
>> Did anyone else grab it before it disappeared?
>> 
> 
> I've found it at
> http://web.archive.org/web/20051120074512/http://ftp.compaq.com:80/ -- and
> that allows you to descend into subdirectories just like on a real FTP site

I think my ISP was having a brain fart a couple of hours ago because I couldn’t 
ftp to ftp.compaq.com and can now, I’m browsing away happily. Technology eh!

> I'm guessing the one-file download you mentioned was at
> https://archive.org/details/ftp.compaq.com. That page offers a torrent,
> which gives you another way of downloading either the whole thing or just
> parts: you can open that torrent file in a decent BitTorrent client but,
> instead of starting to download the whole thing, go into the list of files
> included and just check off the ones you want to download and keep the rest
> excluded.
> 
> 

Yes, but my view of it said there were no browseable files which was the point 
I asked here. I’ll put it down to Virgin Media/Libery Global cocking something 
up somewhere just for a change

Cheers!

>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> —
>> Adrian/Witchy
>> Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>Eric Christopherson

Re: ftp.compaq.com mirror

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 08/08/2017 12:38 PM, Rico Pajarola via cctalk wrote:
> I have the whole archive, but you'd have to tell me which files you need.
> Note that most files from ftp.compaq.com are still available on
> ftp://ftp.hp.com/ (including all softpaqs).
> 
> You should be able to install Windows 98 without any special drivers, and
> then use Google to find the specific drivers that are missing.
> driverguide.com and driverscollection.com etc. are your friend.

I've got a Deskpro ENP tower (built like a truck) and I ran into
difficulties running GWBASIC.  Fortunately, there is a Softpaq that
fixes that, so you may want to pick that one up also.

--Chuck

Re: ftp.compaq.com mirror

[Rico Pajarola via cctalk]

I have the whole archive, but you'd have to tell me which files you need.
Note that most files from ftp.compaq.com are still available on
ftp://ftp.hp.com/ (including all softpaqs).

You should be able to install Windows 98 without any special drivers, and
then use Google to find the specific drivers that are missing.
driverguide.com and driverscollection.com etc. are your friend.



On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Managed to rescue a Compaq Deskpro EN from the scrap pile at work today
> and realised it has a proper floppy controller so I can install a 5.25”
> drive.
>
> Trouble is ftp.compaq.com  has disappeared so
> getting drivers for win98 is going to be difficult unless I have them at
> work on old driver CDs. archive.org  has a mirror of
> the whole ftp site but it’s 220gb and I’m not sure my little 150mb/s web
> connection will download that in less than a month :)
>
> Did anyone else grab it before it disappeared?
>
> cheers,
>
> —
> Adrian/Witchy
> Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards
>
>

Re: ftp.compaq.com mirror

[Alexandre Souza via cctalk]

I'd download everything and keep it in a safe place, just in case...


2017-08-08 16:30 GMT-03:00 Eric Christopherson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org>:

> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Managed to rescue a Compaq Deskpro EN from the scrap pile at work today
> > and realised it has a proper floppy controller so I can install a 5.25”
> > drive.
> >
> > Trouble is ftp.compaq.com  has disappeared so
> > getting drivers for win98 is going to be difficult unless I have them at
> > work on old driver CDs. archive.org  has a mirror
> of
> > the whole ftp site but it’s 220gb and I’m not sure my little 150mb/s web
> > connection will download that in less than a month :)
> >
> > Did anyone else grab it before it disappeared?
> >
>
> I've found it at
> http://web.archive.org/web/20051120074512/http://ftp.compaq.com:80/ -- and
> that allows you to descend into subdirectories just like on a real FTP
> site.
>
> I'm guessing the one-file download you mentioned was at
> https://archive.org/details/ftp.compaq.com. That page offers a torrent,
> which gives you another way of downloading either the whole thing or just
> parts: you can open that torrent file in a decent BitTorrent client but,
> instead of starting to download the whole thing, go into the list of files
> included and just check off the ones you want to download and keep the rest
> excluded.
>
>
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > —
> > Adrian/Witchy
> > Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Eric Christopherson
>

Re: ftp.compaq.com mirror

[Eric Christopherson via cctalk]

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Managed to rescue a Compaq Deskpro EN from the scrap pile at work today
> and realised it has a proper floppy controller so I can install a 5.25”
> drive.
>
> Trouble is ftp.compaq.com  has disappeared so
> getting drivers for win98 is going to be difficult unless I have them at
> work on old driver CDs. archive.org  has a mirror of
> the whole ftp site but it’s 220gb and I’m not sure my little 150mb/s web
> connection will download that in less than a month :)
>
> Did anyone else grab it before it disappeared?
>

I've found it at
http://web.archive.org/web/20051120074512/http://ftp.compaq.com:80/ -- and
that allows you to descend into subdirectories just like on a real FTP site.

I'm guessing the one-file download you mentioned was at
https://archive.org/details/ftp.compaq.com. That page offers a torrent,
which gives you another way of downloading either the whole thing or just
parts: you can open that torrent file in a decent BitTorrent client but,
instead of starting to download the whole thing, go into the list of files
included and just check off the ones you want to download and keep the rest
excluded.


>
> cheers,
>
> —
> Adrian/Witchy
> Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards
>
>


-- 
Eric Christopherson

ftp.compaq.com mirror

[Adrian Graham via cctalk]

Hi folks,

Managed to rescue a Compaq Deskpro EN from the scrap pile at work today and 
realised it has a proper floppy controller so I can install a 5.25” drive.

Trouble is ftp.compaq.com  has disappeared so getting 
drivers for win98 is going to be difficult unless I have them at work on old 
driver CDs. archive.org  has a mirror of the whole ftp 
site but it’s 220gb and I’m not sure my little 150mb/s web connection will 
download that in less than a month :)

Did anyone else grab it before it disappeared?

cheers,

—
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards