OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Thanks, Judith ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222007 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Well, the recent cfajax return types docco I wrote and announed here has has 100 reads in a few days, so someone is interested. On 10/24/05, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222008 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: formatting a date in cfgrid
Well it is still front end really. Alan doesnt mean insert the date into the database already formatted in any special way; He means SELECT it in the desired format so you don't need to format it anywhere else. In MySql for example... SELECT DATE_FORMAT(DateField, '%W, %M %D, %Y'); Would give you the date formatted like this straight from your query and all you'd need to do was output it... 'Sunday, October 24th, 2005' You could use datepart() or convert() to get 'basically' the same thing from SQL Server (I'm not sure SQL server has anything for Nth day though) Believe it or not, even MS Access comes equipped with some date functions :^O That's probably enough to fix you up but if you have any trouble just let us know the date/time format you are looking for and what database you are using. Ps... In CF, the mask is the last option in the function like... Dateformat(mydate, mm dd ) And not the first like... Dateformat(mm dd , mydate) When I started writing .NET apps I was very used to CF's XFormat() functions where the mask was always last. The mask comes first in VB's date formatter and when I put it last, the mask was actually displayed like you're descriing. I THINK CF would throw an error if it were backwards but it's worth checking. Just seems very odd that it displays the mask. You might also consider posting the bit of code that is displaying the mask so everyone can take a look. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: formatting a date in cfgrid it's just a regular date/time field always figured i could do it on the front end somehow.. i'll give that a lookig into though.. thanks On 10/23/05, Alan Rother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is just totally off the cuff here... But if you can't get CF to do it right off, you could have your DB do it. Just apply a date mask to it in the query. Most DB systems allow you to do this. HTH Alan Rother Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer On 10/23/05, Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a date that is populating a field in a grid like this: Tue Oct 18 21:25:48 GMT-0400 2005 i have attempted to use mask= D, but all it does is output the mask to the field.. any ideas how to mask this? thanks ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222009 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I wish there was a way to tell if the reads were due to an interest in implimentation or just to see what's going on. Maybe put a small poll next to the article. :) Well, the recent cfajax return types docco I wrote and announed here has has 100 reads in a few days, so someone is interested. On 10/24/05, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222010 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
lol Poll Question - Do you give a rat's about this stuff? 1) yes 2) no I'll see what I can do ;-) On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish there was a way to tell if the reads were due to an interest in implimentation or just to see what's going on. Maybe put a small poll next to the article. :) Well, the recent cfajax return types docco I wrote and announed here has has 100 reads in a few days, so someone is interested. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222012 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MySQL database export
I changed all the easy stuff like below. But ALL the insert statements are FUBAR also. And they are massive insert statements, with HTML content, so not a small job to find the error in each one. And the cleint didn't want to pay for any more of my time to fix something that should have been working already. While I have lost this client now, I just want to try and avoid this problem in the future. Avoiding MySQL seems to be the best answer :-) Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 23:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export i dunno why its changing it, must be a setting he has (on purpose or not) i manually went in and search and replaced names to the right ones and ran it through navicat and it loaded up just fine. so u just might have to do some manual changing ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:38 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: MySQL database export Here is one simple example. As you can see every occurrence of the word weight has been generated as weigl instead. /* Table structure for tbl_shipweighls */ drop table if exists `tbl_shipweighls`; CREATE table `tbl_shipweighls` ( `ship_weighlrange_ID` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `ship_weighlrange_Method_ID` int(11) default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_From` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_To` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_Amount` double default NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_method_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`), KEY `tbl_ShipMethodtbl_ShipWeighlRange` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`) ) TYPE=MyISAM; -- Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 22:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export can you post one of the tables? i have run intotroubles where it will add a default char set that messes everything up, should be last line of each table like TYPE=MyISAM DEFAULT=LATIN=1; change to TYPE=MyISAM; (or whatever db type it is, just remove the default char setting ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export Unfortunately I do not have direct access to the MySQL server the original database was on. Only PHPMyAdmin access. Alas the client has decided to believe the old developer. Which is strange considering he came to me in the first place because the developer still didn't have his site up and running after several weeks, and I got it almost working in a few hours. Oh well what can you do. Russ -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 20:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MySQL database export I'll add a 'me too' to the suggestion of directly connecting the two databases. Get yourself a gui tool like mySQLFront or SQLYog. You should be able to do a direct export/import from server to server right from your desktop. All you need is a username, password, server IP and port number. As for the client getting a line of BS from the developer, you were able to explasin the problem to us without too much technobabble. Supply your info to the client and let them decide who is full of beans. Perhaps they can apply some leverage once properly informed. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222011 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) On 10/24/05, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol Poll Question - Do you give a rat's about this stuff? 1) yes 2) no I'll see what I can do ;-) On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish there was a way to tell if the reads were due to an interest in implimentation or just to see what's going on. Maybe put a small poll next to the article. :) Well, the recent cfajax return types docco I wrote and announed here has has 100 reads in a few days, so someone is interested. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222013 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MySQL database export
I have a feeling the other guy sabataged it. now if the client was paid up and the site belonged to them then the old guy needed to turn over the codes or couldnt u just look at them in the code? cause they need to be there right then just do it yourself, mysql has some good tools, i personally use navicat and its very easy. I wouldnt blame this on mysql I would blame it on the other guy probably doing this on purpose! i say u go kick his ass!! haha ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:41 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: MySQL database export I changed all the easy stuff like below. But ALL the insert statements are FUBAR also. And they are massive insert statements, with HTML content, so not a small job to find the error in each one. And the cleint didn't want to pay for any more of my time to fix something that should have been working already. While I have lost this client now, I just want to try and avoid this problem in the future. Avoiding MySQL seems to be the best answer :-) Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 23:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export i dunno why its changing it, must be a setting he has (on purpose or not) i manually went in and search and replaced names to the right ones and ran it through navicat and it loaded up just fine. so u just might have to do some manual changing ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export Here is one simple example. As you can see every occurrence of the word weight has been generated as weigl instead. /* Table structure for tbl_shipweighls */ drop table if exists `tbl_shipweighls`; CREATE table `tbl_shipweighls` ( `ship_weighlrange_ID` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `ship_weighlrange_Method_ID` int(11) default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_From` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_To` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_Amount` double default NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_method_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`), KEY `tbl_ShipMethodtbl_ShipWeighlRange` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`) ) TYPE=MyISAM; -- Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 22:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export can you post one of the tables? i have run intotroubles where it will add a default char set that messes everything up, should be last line of each table like TYPE=MyISAM DEFAULT=LATIN=1; change to TYPE=MyISAM; (or whatever db type it is, just remove the default char setting ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export Unfortunately I do not have direct access to the MySQL server the original database was on. Only PHPMyAdmin access. Alas the client has decided to believe the old developer. Which is strange considering he came to me in the first place because the developer still didn't have his site up and running after several weeks, and I got it almost working in a few hours. Oh well what can you do. Russ -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 20:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MySQL database export I'll add a 'me too' to the suggestion of directly connecting the two databases. Get yourself a gui tool like mySQLFront or SQLYog. You should be able to do a direct export/import from server to server right from your desktop. All you need is a username, password, server IP and port number. As for the client getting a line of BS from the developer, you were able to explasin the problem to us without too much technobabble. Supply your info to the client and let them decide who is full of beans. Perhaps they can apply some leverage once properly informed. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222014 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support:
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) On 10/24/05, James Holmes wrote: lol Poll Question - Do you give a rat's about this stuff? 1) yes 2) no I'll see what I can do ;-) On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz wrote: I wish there was a way to tell if the reads were due to an interest in implimentation or just to see what's going on. Maybe put a small poll next to the article. :) Well, the recent cfajax return types docco I wrote and announed here has has 100 reads in a few days, so someone is interested. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222015 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
I second NaviCat. I have been using it for about 3 months now and it works great. It takes some getting used to after using MySQL-Front for awhile but its much better, IMO. On 10/24/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a feeling the other guy sabataged it. now if the client was paid up and the site belonged to them then the old guy needed to turn over the codes or couldnt u just look at them in the code? cause they need to be there right then just do it yourself, mysql has some good tools, i personally use navicat and its very easy. I wouldnt blame this on mysql I would blame it on the other guy probably doing this on purpose! i say u go kick his ass!! haha ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:41 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: MySQL database export I changed all the easy stuff like below. But ALL the insert statements are FUBAR also. And they are massive insert statements, with HTML content, so not a small job to find the error in each one. And the cleint didn't want to pay for any more of my time to fix something that should have been working already. While I have lost this client now, I just want to try and avoid this problem in the future. Avoiding MySQL seems to be the best answer :-) Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 23:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export i dunno why its changing it, must be a setting he has (on purpose or not) i manually went in and search and replaced names to the right ones and ran it through navicat and it loaded up just fine. so u just might have to do some manual changing ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export Here is one simple example. As you can see every occurrence of the word weight has been generated as weigl instead. /* Table structure for tbl_shipweighls */ drop table if exists `tbl_shipweighls`; CREATE table `tbl_shipweighls` ( `ship_weighlrange_ID` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `ship_weighlrange_Method_ID` int(11) default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_From` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_To` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_Amount` double default NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_method_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`), KEY `tbl_ShipMethodtbl_ShipWeighlRange` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`) ) TYPE=MyISAM; -- Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 22:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export can you post one of the tables? i have run intotroubles where it will add a default char set that messes everything up, should be last line of each table like TYPE=MyISAM DEFAULT=LATIN=1; change to TYPE=MyISAM; (or whatever db type it is, just remove the default char setting ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export Unfortunately I do not have direct access to the MySQL server the original database was on. Only PHPMyAdmin access. Alas the client has decided to believe the old developer. Which is strange considering he came to me in the first place because the developer still didn't have his site up and running after several weeks, and I got it almost working in a few hours. Oh well what can you do. Russ -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 20:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MySQL database export I'll add a 'me too' to the suggestion of directly connecting the two databases. Get yourself a gui tool like mySQLFront or SQLYog. You should be able to do a direct export/import from server to server right from your desktop. All you need is a username, password, server IP and port number. As for the client getting a line of BS from the developer, you were able to explasin the problem to us without too much technobabble. Supply your info to the client and let them decide who is full of beans. Perhaps they can apply some leverage once properly informed. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com http://mysecretbase.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
(not sure how far this convo can go, list rules, etc, so tell me if it needs to stop) Ajax is great for certain situations. Its only another technology at a developers disposal. Using Flex2.0+Ajax is terribly simple and will provide some pretty sweet apps, if folks use it right. CF isn't always the best fit for a job (don't shoot...just being real) but, IMO, its more suited for most jobs than PHP. The beautiful part of (swf) [Flex or Flash] vs Ajax is they aren't really against each other. They both serve different purposes and, IMO, only cross paths in the area of interface functionality (one-screen apps). So, as with other technologies...take doses as needed. :-) On 10/24/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) On 10/24/05, James Holmes wrote: lol Poll Question - Do you give a rat's about this stuff? 1) yes 2) no I'll see what I can do ;-) On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz wrote: I wish there was a way to tell if the reads were due to an interest in implimentation or just to see what's going on. Maybe put a small poll next to the article. :) Well, the recent cfajax return types docco I wrote and announed here has has 100 reads in a few days, so someone is interested. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222017 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I think there is a lot of interest in Ajax but Web 2.0 is not even 'defined' yet so I would assume interest is more of a case of where it could head rather than real hands on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2005 08:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? I wish there was a way to tell if the reads were due to an interest in implimentation or just to see what's going on. Maybe put a small poll next to the article. :) Well, the recent cfajax return types docco I wrote and announed here has has 100 reads in a few days, so someone is interested. On 10/24/05, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222018 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Tracking Text Only emails
On Thursday 20 October 2005 09:22, Dave Ashworth wrote: However, this is the only technique I have found to track opened mail and as such this will not work on text only emails Or in any modern email client, web based or native application. Whatever the reasoning is behind wanting to track this, you're gonna have to explain it can't be done. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222019 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Tracking Text Only emails
Am aware of the restrictions of modern mail clients, so I think the best solution is to add code to check if they click through and if they've already opened a mail and then explain that this particular stat is not 100% accurate and should be used as a guide only On 10/24/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 09:22, Dave Ashworth wrote: However, this is the only technique I have found to track opened mail and as such this will not work on text only emails Or in any modern email client, web based or native application. Whatever the reasoning is behind wanting to track this, you're gonna have to explain it can't be done. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222020 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... The AJAX community is growing daily, although I feel that term is rather a misnomer. Maybe something like AJAX factions within the CF community would be more appropriate? Anyway... As for books: there is already at least one book [1] available, two more [2][3] on pre-order, plus another [4] available as a beta download. There's also some heavy coverage of AJAX in DHTML Utopia [5]. With sites like Gmail, Google Maps and Flickr giving the user a clean, simple interface through the use of AJAX and Web2.0 technology, it's also pushing development of smaller projects. Although I've been using similar methods for a couple of years now, we've just finished deployed the initial version of a JavaScript/ColdFusion combination instant messaging application for a client, which relies heavily on its AJAX implementation. Why go for the AJAX solution? Well, in the past we've usually gone for Flash/FlashCom based IM clients, but as a developer I'd much rather have the whole codebase under my control rather than spreading everything between CF, Flash and ActionScript developers. Sure, I had to bump up my JavaScript a bit, but for anyone with a basic handle of scripting languages it's not *that* challenging. Additionally, we now no longer need a separate FlashCom server and the user doesn't require the Flash plugin. They get a clean, simple interface to use and we get everything nicely in source control :) Until recently, the design and usability of some web-based systems has taken a back seat to the amount of functionality that the developer can pack in. That focus is now swinging, thanks to the Web2.0 movement and companies like 37signals (who developed the increasingly popular Ruby on Rails framework) who have changed this direction and instead give the user the minimum of options, but the ability to perform those actions simply and quickly. You may as well spend time making a regularly used function perfect, instead of concentrating on one function which is really really important but in the end never gets used. Anyway, I've realised I'm waffling randomly now, so I'll move on... Tim. [1] Foundations of AJAX by Ryan Asleson and Nate T. Schutta: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1590595823 [2] AJAX in Action by David Crane: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932394613 [3] Professional AJAX by Nicholas C. Zakas, Jeremy PcPeak and Joe Fawcett: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/047181 [4] Pragmatic AJAX by Justin Gehtland, Ben Galbraith and Dian Almaer: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/ajax/ [5] DHTML Utopia: Modern Web Design Using javaScript by Stuart Langridge: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/047181 -- --- Badpen Tech - CF and web-tech: http://tech.badpen.com/ --- RAWNET LTD - independent digital media agency We are big, we are funny and we are clever! New site launched at http://www.rawnet.com/ --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222021 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: formatting a date in cfgrid
thanks for the examples.. by backend.. i meant the sql.. i consider front end my display.. as for the code.. i am populating a grid via flash remoting. cfgridcolumn name=feedDate header=Feed Date mask=, MMM. D, at H:NN A/ that is all there is... On 10/24/05, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it is still front end really. Alan doesn't mean insert the date into the database already formatted in any special way; He means SELECT it in the desired format so you don't need to format it anywhere else. In MySql for example... SELECT DATE_FORMAT(DateField, '%W, %M %D, %Y'); Would give you the date formatted like this straight from your query and all you'd need to do was output it... 'Sunday, October 24th, 2005' You could use datepart() or convert() to get 'basically' the same thing from SQL Server (I'm not sure SQL server has anything for Nth day though) Believe it or not, even MS Access comes equipped with some date functions :^O That's probably enough to fix you up but if you have any trouble just let us know the date/time format you are looking for and what database you are using. Ps... In CF, the mask is the last option in the function like... Dateformat(mydate, mm dd ) And not the first like... Dateformat(mm dd , mydate) When I started writing .NET apps I was very used to CF's XFormat() functions where the mask was always last. The mask comes first in VB's date formatter and when I put it last, the mask was actually displayed like you're descriing. I THINK CF would throw an error if it were backwards but it's worth checking. Just seems very odd that it displays the mask. You might also consider posting the bit of code that is displaying the mask so everyone can take a look. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: formatting a date in cfgrid it's just a regular date/time field always figured i could do it on the front end somehow.. i'll give that a lookig into though.. thanks On 10/23/05, Alan Rother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is just totally off the cuff here... But if you can't get CF to do it right off, you could have your DB do it. Just apply a date mask to it in the query. Most DB systems allow you to do this. HTH Alan Rother Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer On 10/23/05, Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a date that is populating a field in a grid like this: Tue Oct 18 21:25:48 GMT-0400 2005 i have attempted to use mask= D, but all it does is output the mask to the field.. any ideas how to mask this? thanks ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222022 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Are there any CRM solutions in CF?
Hello Victor, We have a solution called VICO. It's build in ColdFusion (currently CFMX6.1) and has a number of integrated modules: Sales Force, Customer Support\Help Desk, Project Management, Time Tracking, Invoice, Expense, PO, Admin, Knowledge Base, Document Management. Let me know what specific features you are looking for or if you want more information. /regards Marius Milosav www.scorpiosoft.com It's not about technology, it's about people -Original Message- From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 23, 2005 10:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Are there any CRM solutions in CF? Hi, I am investigating CRM solutions for a customer. Are there any high end solutions in ColdFusion? When I say high end, I don't mean Siebel (sorry Oracle) type of high end solutions, but something more robust than just capturing a client information. Thank you Victor ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222023 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
On 10/24/05, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed all the easy stuff like below. But ALL the insert statements are FUBAR also. And they are massive insert statements, with HTML content, so not a small job to find the error in each one. And the cleint didn't want to pay for any more of my time to fix something that should have been working already. While I have lost this client now, I just want to try and avoid this problem in the future. Avoiding MySQL seems to be the best answer :-) I'll second Dave Watt's suggestion that it's a charset issue or something related, either in the OS or MySQL settings or somewhere in between. Your problem was *not* MySQL :) There's no other rational reason for text to be scrambled. PHPMyAdmin db dumps are a wrapper for the underlying mysqldump command, so it's no surprise it came out the same way from both the PHPAdmin app and the dump from the server administrators. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 23:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export i dunno why its changing it, must be a setting he has (on purpose or not) i manually went in and search and replaced names to the right ones and ran it through navicat and it loaded up just fine. so u just might have to do some manual changing ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:38 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: MySQL database export Here is one simple example. As you can see every occurrence of the word weight has been generated as weigl instead. /* Table structure for tbl_shipweighls */ drop table if exists `tbl_shipweighls`; CREATE table `tbl_shipweighls` ( `ship_weighlrange_ID` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `ship_weighlrange_Method_ID` int(11) default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_From` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_To` double default NULL, `ship_weighlrange_Amount` double default NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_ID`), KEY `shp_weighlrange_method_ID` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`), KEY `tbl_ShipMethodtbl_ShipWeighlRange` (`ship_weighlrange_Method_ID`) ) TYPE=MyISAM; -- Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 22:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export can you post one of the tables? i have run intotroubles where it will add a default char set that messes everything up, should be last line of each table like TYPE=MyISAM DEFAULT=LATIN=1; change to TYPE=MyISAM; (or whatever db type it is, just remove the default char setting ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export Unfortunately I do not have direct access to the MySQL server the original database was on. Only PHPMyAdmin access. Alas the client has decided to believe the old developer. Which is strange considering he came to me in the first place because the developer still didn't have his site up and running after several weeks, and I got it almost working in a few hours. Oh well what can you do. Russ -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 20:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MySQL database export I'll add a 'me too' to the suggestion of directly connecting the two databases. Get yourself a gui tool like mySQLFront or SQLYog. You should be able to do a direct export/import from server to server right from your desktop. All you need is a username, password, server IP and port number. As for the client getting a line of BS from the developer, you were able to explasin the problem to us without too much technobabble. Supply your info to the client and let them decide who is full of beans. Perhaps they can apply some leverage once properly informed. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222024 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
On 10/24/05, John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second NaviCat. I have been using it for about 3 months now and it works great. It takes some getting used to after using MySQL-Front for awhile but its much better, IMO. Navicat is nice, but I'm always surprised that more people aren't using the MySQL GUI tools -- MySQL Administrator and MySQL Query Browser (which are roughly analgous to MS-SQL Enterprise Manager and Query Analyzer). There's been a (private?) alpha for the integrated MySQL Workbench which integrates those tools and the Migration (Oracle, MS-SQL) tool -- I have a copy but don't see a link handy (maybe I got at MySQL Conference). There's an article about their plans which are being run by the guy who wrote the open source DBDesigner, which is a pretty cool little reverse engineering and modeling tool. http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/interviews/mike-zinner.html And of course they are all free, cross-platform, etc. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222025 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
What does Java have to do with anything here Dave? dave wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222026 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
Oh no, the MySQL tools are just horrible. I've always used the cmd line for most of my interaction with MySQL, but I've been using EMS MySQL Manager lately and it is really nice. It was installed on my machine when I started this job and I've really fallen into using it quite a bit. I've used Toad with Oracle and Enterprise Mangler/ QA with SQL Server quite a bit, but I think they both pale in comparison to the EMS product with MySQL. http://www.sqlmanager.net/products/mysql/manager --Ferg John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: On 10/24/05, John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second NaviCat. I have been using it for about 3 months now and it works great. It takes some getting used to after using MySQL-Front for awhile but its much better, IMO. Navicat is nice, but I'm always surprised that more people aren't using the MySQL GUI tools -- MySQL Administrator and MySQL Query Browser (which are roughly analgous to MS-SQL Enterprise Manager and Query Analyzer). There's been a (private?) alpha for the integrated MySQL Workbench which integrates those tools and the Migration (Oracle, MS-SQL) tool -- I have a copy but don't see a link handy (maybe I got at MySQL Conference). There's an article about their plans which are being run by the guy who wrote the open source DBDesigner, which is a pretty cool little reverse engineering and modeling tool. http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/interviews/mike-zinner.html And of course they are all free, cross-platform, etc. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222027 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Java have to do with anything here Dave? dave wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222028 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
All the samples are online? Also James did some good return type doccos... All cool ;-) -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2005 14:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Java have to do with anything here Dave? dave wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222029 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Tony, You should get on the cfajax mailing list if you aren't already. There are several posts a day which may prove very informative. --Ferg Tony wrote: im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Java have to do with anything here Dave? dave wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222030 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... I am VERY interested in AJAX. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who's developing in CF will be hard pressed to NOT be interested in it, once they see it in action. I am incredibly excited about AJAX, and since I know CF but not much JS at all, I'm incredibly interested in the AJAX for CF devs books/articles/blogs/sites/etc. Thanks! Jake blogfusion.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222031 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
That pretty much goes for me too, I know enough about AJAX to know that I need to know more - I've been using some home brewed stuff with iframes and just that revolutionised a lot of my coding. On 10/24/05, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Java have to do with anything here Dave? dave wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222032 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
:) i just joined like wednesday of last week. tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony, You should get on the cfajax mailing list if you aren't already. There are several posts a day which may prove very informative. --Ferg Tony wrote: im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Java have to do with anything here Dave? dave wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222033 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
What is the address to join again? -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2005 14:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? :) i just joined like wednesday of last week. tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony, You should get on the cfajax mailing list if you aren't already. There are several posts a day which may prove very informative. --Ferg Tony wrote: im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does Java have to do with anything here Dave? dave wrote: i know its stupid! I think its going the way of say flex and ajax but what kills me is the ajax ppl saying well swf's need that flash player and we dont want to have to add an add on Last time I checked flash player was on more puters then java, not too mention programs such as norton and macafee tend to mess with java on a lot of sites. Hell I have had norton cease code on cfm pages with cfform js in them.. im sure diff situation call for different solutions ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:52 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? A good addition would be to see why they are interested. In convos with Ajax fans most don't like Flash (swf's) for many reasons so they treat Ajax as king. lol. I'm no expert on the matter but being a Flash developer at heart (and Ajax for that matter...just not as close to my heart, lol) many folks have asked my opinion which sparked some interesting convo's. With all that said, it would be nice to know why they like Ajax too. 1) HTML abilities still there (right click menu seems to be a big issue for some folks and Flash) 2) Flash hater 3) Best thing since pants with pockets AND sliced bread :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222034 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I think the anyone moving towards AJAX implementations or towards publishing a book on it should move with caution. I think a _great_ idea would be to publish different ways of producing the same rich application, along with the pros and cons of each: AJAX, Flex, that open-souce Flex alternative whose name I have just forgotten, Java applets, etc. AJAX is a wild technology. It's definitely got a big bang for the buck, but it can be a true pain in the ass. I've done some heavy AJAX work, and there are very good reasons I'm now moving towards Flex 2. -Joe On 10/24/05, Jake. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... I am VERY interested in AJAX. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who's developing in CF will be hard pressed to NOT be interested in it, once they see it in action. I am incredibly excited about AJAX, and since I know CF but not much JS at all, I'm incredibly interested in the AJAX for CF devs books/articles/blogs/sites/etc. Thanks! Jake blogfusion.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222035 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Sandbox Security, CFC, and cftag Path. Oh My!!
I was afraid of this. Thanks for validating this and clearing this up. Sincerely, Troy On 10/23/05, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can stop any particular application from accessing any particular custom tags path by denying them access with a sanbox. But if the application tries to use a custom tag that is in that path, you will get an access denied message. Coldfusion will always use the first instance of a custom tag it finds, it will first look in the local folder of the calling template, then it will look in the default custom tags path, then it will look in additional custom tag paths. If you want to have multiple copies of the same tag on a server that can be called using the CF_MyTag syntax, then they need to have difference names or be in a different instance. You cannot have two sites running on the same instance of CF using the same cf_Customtag, but actually using two different versions of the tag file. The application will have to keep the tags locally, use CFMODULE or CFIMPORT to use it's own version of a tag and not the one in the custom tags folder. -- russ -Original Message- From: Troy Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2005 14:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Sandbox Security, CFC, and cftag Path. Oh My!! -Is it possible to restrict an application to use only certain paths stored in the Custom Tag Path with or without SandBox Security? Yes, by specifying which paths are allowed within the sanbox. This is the purpose of a sanbbox, to specify which paths/files/tags etc an application has access to. Let me see if I understand this correctly. Eventhough there may be 100 Custom Tag Paths defined in the Coldfusion Administrator for a ColdFusion Instance, an applicatation can be restricted to use only specific ones. Therefore, if Mach-II is installed in multiple places, the application will not find the other Mach-II installations. Is this correct? Thanks, Troy On 10/22/05, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Maybe this is a better question. -Is it possible to restrict an application to use only certain paths stored in the Custom Tag Path with or without SandBox Security? Yes, by specifying which paths are allowed within the sanbox. This is the purpose of a sanbbox, to specify which paths/files/tags etc an application has access to. -Is it possible to restrict an application to use only certain ColdFusion Mappings with or without SandBox Security? If you have created a sandbox that allows an application to only access paths within it's home directory, then it if tries to use a mapping that it outside of that, it will not work and will give access denied. -- Russ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222036 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MySQL database export
Is it possible that they're using a copy of PHPMyAdmin in a different language? I wouldn't expect a data dump from mySQL to suck into SQL Server without SOME tweaking but the spelling errors like that? I've never seen that and I've used that data dump from myAdmin LOADS of times. It's just a text file with SQL statements. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySQL database export I did think of that, but surely in that case I would need to change something on the source server before actually generating the script, so that it is not created with those errors in the first place. Russ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222037 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
www.indiankey.com/cfajax Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: What is the address to join again? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222038 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I would LOVE to get some AJAX instruction targeted specifically to CF. Will you do it for me please? :) !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Thanks, Judith ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222039 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I'm a Flash guy, so I find it pointless... of course not everybody is happy with Flash UI's or has the resources to implement them. I suppose it has its uses, but just not for me. Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 24, 2005 12:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Thanks, Judith ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222040 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Well yeah...but this at least allows you to do the same Async calls without the need for a clumsy plugin.. -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2006 14:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? I'm a Flash guy, so I find it pointless... of course not everybody is happy with Flash UI's or has the resources to implement them. I suppose it has its uses, but just not for me. Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 24, 2005 12:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Thanks, Judith ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222041 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Right - you just have to use a clumsy workaround for testing which browser people are on, hoping ActiveX is enabled on IE, and that any new browsing stuff people use supports it, and that they're not on a mobile (hi, Flash Lite!). -Joe On 10/24/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well yeah...but this at least allows you to do the same Async calls without the need for a clumsy plugin.. -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2006 14:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? I'm a Flash guy, so I find it pointless... of course not everybody is happy with Flash UI's or has the resources to implement them. I suppose it has its uses, but just not for me. Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 24, 2005 12:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Thanks, Judith ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222042 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Count me among the interested. I'm itching to play with the examples and implement some AJAX into my apps. Hopefully this week. On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.indiankey.com/cfajax http://www.indiankey.com/cfajax Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: What is the address to join again? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222043 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Accessing SAP with Coldfusion
What are my options to access SAP data using Coldfusion 5? TIA ___ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222044 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
WIN2003 ENT cluster mode?
Is anyone running W2003 Enterprise in cluster mode with their CFMX7? We have an application that requires 2TB of storage and were thinking of running it with an attached scsi powervault from Dell. We'll need win enterprise in order to share the volume. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any caveats before we spend the cash on the setup. If anyone has any other large storage solutions I'd be interested in hearing that as well. Emmet ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222045 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
And the cleint didn't want to pay for any more of my time to fix something that should have been working already. While I have lost this client now, Cosidering the first point, the second is probabilly the best thing that could happen to you ;-/ Avoiding MySQL seems to be the best answer Not really, but keep in mind that the export feature in MySQL is mostly designed to generate a file usable to import data in another MySQL server. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222046 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Joe, use a clumsy workaround for testing which browser people are on To make sure that all browsers can see Flash you have to use non-standard HTML. Either that or if you really really want your HTML to validate, you can use messy JavaScript to inject the HTML. hoping ActiveX is enabled on IE That's a moot point: you've got to hope the same thing for Flash, or you won't get that either. that any new browsing stuff people use supports it True, but the majority of modern browsers correctly implement the appropriate standards. And those that don't *cough*IE*cough* have proven workarounds. And if you build your AJAX application on a suitable abstraction layer (such as Prototype) then you can bet that support will be available sharpish, or you can make the changes yourself. that they're not on a mobile (hi, Flash Lite!). Now you've got me on that one, but all AJAX implementations should have a fall-back mode for those clients that don't support JavaScript anyway (unless you know that the clients accessing it are controlled, such as on an intranet), and a new stylesheet will see you good. For our team at least, using an AJAX solution to a problem over Flash has a number of advantages (at least for our team): - all code can be source controlled, diff'd and quickly deployed without any need for building [I like the pretty colours on the Trac diff tool ;) ] - CF developers can understand JS and get up to speed with it to allow quick development. Flash authoring is another kettle of fish entirely; - it's much easier for our development team to to make a quick change to a JS file than to get a Flash developer to make the change and make the new build, test and deploy; - We have more CF developers than Flash/ActionScript developers, so any development/maintenance etc is easier/quicker with an AJAX solution. - debugging an AJAX application is a (relatively) simple task if you've just one developer. When you throw in a Flash developer it becomes much more complicated. Yes, you should have unit testing, but it still happens... Of course, these sort of restrictions will be removed once Flex 2 comes out, but at the moment an AJAX solution is preferable to a full Flex licence! And if you can control exactly who's using the site and with what, then even better! Tim. -- --- Badpen Tech - CF and web-tech: http://tech.badpen.com/ --- RAWNET LTD - independent digital media agency We are big, we are funny and we are clever! New site launched at http://www.rawnet.com/ --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222047 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Don't know if you need more people chiming in, but I am very interested in AJAX. I have been playing with CFAjax for the last few weeks, and I LOVE it. It definitely has its quirks (debugging can be a pain in the ___), but the end results are by FAR worth it, IMO. My biggest question is this: How much of the ajax functionality can be duplicated with Flex? And if the answer is all of it, how much money do I have to spend to do it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? Hi. I've been wondering: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? I've been asked this question in a professional capacity. I've seen a lot of articles on the subject recently and evidence of interest in the ColdFusion community. But I'm still not sure of the size of the AJAX community, and how large an audience we'd be talking for something like an AJAX book... Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Thanks, Judith [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222048 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
From: Joe Rinehart Right - you just have to use a clumsy workaround for testing which browser people are on, hoping ActiveX is enabled on IE, and that any new browsing stuff people use supports it, and that they're not on a mobile (hi, Flash Lite!). Why the heck should I care of ActiveX is enabled? IE needs ActiveX for JavaScript to work? That's a new one on me...besides, I usually filter all IE users to /dev/null ;) [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222049 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
-Original Message- From: Alan Rother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to take this thread in a whole new direction, but is anyone else offended that the cfopen.org http://cfopen.org project is written in PHP? Another thought... rubyforge.org, the cfopen.org equivelent for Ruby (and Ruby on Rails, the current belle of the web development media ball) also uses Gforge (http://gforge.org/), the project that forked from the original Sourceforge code after one of the original developers was let go. Gforge is a darn good system, so why not use it? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222050 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WIN2003 ENT cluster mode?
we run win2k3 enterprise for hosting fileshares for all our webfarms - each node has a fibre card in it accessing dedicated disks on a SAN. We have two disk resources, intranet and internet. Rather than having a redunant node in the cluster one node has the intranet resource disks attached to it whilst the other has the internet disks - should either node fail then the disk move over (it takes approximately 60 seconds to happen) to the other node but this way you don't have a box sitting there doing nothing.. Each node in the web farm win2k3 standard then runs cf enterprise (2 instances) with IIS mapped to the clustered fileshare - running in production for over 6 months no, zero downtime. jb On 10/24/05, Emmet McGovern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone running W2003 Enterprise in cluster mode with their CFMX7? We have an application that requires 2TB of storage and were thinking of running it with an attached scsi powervault from Dell. We'll need win enterprise in order to share the volume. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any caveats before we spend the cash on the setup. If anyone has any other large storage solutions I'd be interested in hearing that as well. Emmet ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222051 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Judith Dinowitz wrote: How large an audience is there for material (books, articles) on Web 2.0 and AJAX? That's hard for me to answer, because people seem to mean different things when using the terms Web 2.0 and AJaX. (Does Google Maps actually use XmlHttpRequest? If so, is that a core part of the image-scrolling that the audience seems to focus on most?) I'd feel clearer if we all agreed on whether there were ways to tell whether something 'is' Web 2.0 or not or whether something 'is' AJaX or not. So far I haven't found agreement on functional definitions of these, well, marketing labels. But advanced JavaScript and servers which learn from their audience seem to be good topics for articles and books, because these trends are accelerating, true? jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222052 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Joe Rinehart wrote: I think a _great_ idea would be to publish different ways of producing the same rich application, along with the pros and cons of each: AJAX, Flex, that open-souce Flex alternative whose name I have just forgotten, Java applets, etc. True, but the danger here is that such a study would not include things that some technologies cannot do... such studies are often flawed by assuming the perspective of the weakest link. (How does a JavaScript site auto-update its audience members with older browsers, for instance? When delivering as SWF we frequently handle older audience members gracefully, but many sites billed as AJaX still lack even a here's the browsers we tested page. Then there's audio, video, and other media types beyond XML) Me, I'd like to see development and audience costs when comparing projects... might help equalize the asymmetrical feature sets. jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222053 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
real time cftree?
Is it possible to make a real time populated cftree? eg, given a datastructure, ID, parentID, title could you use cftree and as you open/close branches in the tree have it retrieve via flashremoting the branches? thanks, john. -- a href=http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesamp;id=734amp;t=1;Get Firefox!/a ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222054 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
On 10/24/05, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Joe Rinehart
Right - you just have to use a clumsy workaround for testing which
browser people are on, hoping ActiveX is enabled on IE, and that any
new browsing stuff people use supports it, and that they're not on a
mobile (hi, Flash Lite!).
Why the heck should I care of ActiveX is enabled? IE needs ActiveX for
JavaScript to work? That's a new one on me...besides, I usually filter
all IE users to /dev/null ;)
Have you ever looked at the standard code developers use to access
the XmlHTTPRequest object? The object is not natively built in to IE
because it's an older browser. The Mozilla developers built it
natively, and hence you don't have to worry about a plugin in that
browser. Here's the pertinent code you'll find to initialize the
object in a typical AJAX-ian application:
try {
xmlhttp = new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.XMLHTTP);
} catch (e) {
try {
xmlhttp = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP);
} catch (E) {
xmlhttp = false;
}
}
if (!xmlhttp (typeof XMLHttpRequest != 'undefined') ) {
xmlhttp = new XMLHttpRequest();
}
I think that IE 7 is building the XmlHTTPRequest object natively into
it (I thought I read that somewhere), but until then, yes, you need to
be very aware of ActiveX and user-defined security settings when
developing AJAX applications. Just because you're a Firefox guy, it
doesn't mean your users necessarily are. Personally, I won't use
Firefox with GMail because of it's atrocious memory leak.
Regards,
Dave.
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Flushing Cached Queries
Okay, this is probably something obvious I'm either overlooking or not thinking of. For some reason, I can figure out the really complicated things far easier than the ones that should be simple. Anyway Is there a way to force CF 6.1 to update a cached query programatically. That is, is there a way to force the query to re-run even if the timeout specified in cachedwithin is not up yet. We've got a client who runs a database update routine at a certain time, and we want to try and run the query just before (to cache it across the update) and just after (to pick up the updated data). Ideas? --Ben ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222056 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
+1 for what Tony said. I think it would blend nicely into what I work on daily here at the shop. ..and I definetly would like to see more Docs and code samples on it Jeff On 10/24/05, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222057 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
On 10/24/05, Tim Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make sure that all browsers can see Flash you have to use non-standard HTML. But 98% of all computers already have Flash and it behaves the same on every machine. The HTML code needed to embed Flash is simple, well-understood and supported everywhere (even if it doesn't actually validate - don't get me into that political issue). True, but the majority of modern browsers correctly implement the appropriate standards. Bah! Not true. You try visiting some of the current AJaX-style sites in a variety of browsers and see what happens! Banana Republic is a great example of a site that either blocks modern browsers or fails to render properly in several of them. Now you've got me on that one, but all AJAX implementations should have a fall-back mode for those clients that don't support JavaScript anyway Really? So you advocate building *two* versions of your website? One that does non-JavaScript page refresh stuff and one that does AJaX-style stuff? And how many sites out there actually do that? Turn JavaScript off for a day and go browsing - many sites are not navigable at all. The reality is that folks who rely heavily on JavaScript do *not* create a fall-back mode and just don't support browsing from devices. As Joe points out, Flash is not only cross-browser but cross-device - something that will become increasingly important in the next few years as more and more devices become connected. - all code can be source controlled, diff'd and quickly deployed without any need for building [I like the pretty colours on the Trac diff tool ;) ] Flex brings that for Flash content: no binary files, just MXML and AS3. - CF developers can understand JS and get up to speed with it to allow quick development. Flash authoring is another kettle of fish entirely; But Flex is extremely natural for CF developers - a tag-based layout language and a JavaScript-style (ECMA standard compliant) scripting language. - it's much easier for our development team to to make a quick change to a JS file than to get a Flash developer to make the change and make the new build, test and deploy; That may be true of Flash authoring but isn't true of Flex (since it likely would be your development team doing it, not some other developer). - We have more CF developers than Flash/ActionScript developers, so any development/maintenance etc is easier/quicker with an AJAX solution. See above. - debugging an AJAX application is a (relatively) simple task if you've just one developer. When you throw in a Flash developer it becomes much more complicated. Yes, you should have unit testing, but it still happens... Sounds like you're saying debugging is simple when one person writes everything? Doesn't sound like you've dealt with team development much and large, complex apps? Anyways, see above comments. Of course, these sort of restrictions will be removed once Flex 2 comes out, but at the moment an AJAX solution is preferable to a full Flex licence! That depends on how you define preferable but I'm glad we're in agreement on the value of Flex 2 in this arena :) -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222058 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flushing Cached Queries
set cachedwithin to 0? Okay, this is probably something obvious I'm either overlooking or not thinking of. For some reason, I can figure out the really complicated things far easier than the ones that should be simple. Anyway Is there a way to force CF 6.1 to update a cached query programatically. That is, is there a way to force the query to re-run even if the timeout specified in cachedwithin is not up yet. We've got a client who runs a database update routine at a certain time, and we want to try and run the query just before (to cache it across the update) and just after (to pick up the updated data). Ideas? --Ben ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222059 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Why the heck should I care of ActiveX is enabled? IE needs ActiveX for JavaScript to work? No, but because the current version of IE doesn't support XMLHttpRequest you have to use something like the following: xmlhttp = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP); So, without ActiveX you don't have AJAX support on IE. Microsoft has stated that IE7 will remove this dependancy, but you're stuck with ActiveX until then. Tim. -- --- Badpen Tech - CF and web-tech: http://tech.badpen.com/ --- RAWNET LTD - independent digital media agency We are big, we are funny and we are clever! New site launched at http://www.rawnet.com/ --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222060 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flushing Cached Queries
If it's a specific query you can use cachedwithin=#creattimespan(0,0,0,0)# You might also consider cachedafter - sounds like it fits your problem. I have a blog on this very topic :) http://mkruger.cfwebtools.com/index.cfm/2005/10/13/safe.caching -Mark -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flushing Cached Queries Okay, this is probably something obvious I'm either overlooking or not thinking of. For some reason, I can figure out the really complicated things far easier than the ones that should be simple. Anyway Is there a way to force CF 6.1 to update a cached query programatically. That is, is there a way to force the query to re-run even if the timeout specified in cachedwithin is not up yet. We've got a client who runs a database update routine at a certain time, and we want to try and run the query just before (to cache it across the update) and just after (to pick up the updated data). Ideas? --Ben ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222061 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
And just to be clear: I think the AJaX-style stuff has a lot of value - I just don't see it as an either Flash or 'AJaX'-style stuff issue, I think we'll increasingly see a blend of both. I'm just tackling some of the anti-Flash sentiments in Tim's email... On 10/24/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/24/05, Tim Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make sure that all browsers can see Flash you have to use non-standard HTML. But 98% of all computers already have Flash and it behaves the same on every machine. The HTML code needed to embed Flash is simple, well-understood and supported everywhere (even if it doesn't actually validate - don't get me into that political issue). ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222062 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flushing Cached Queries
Is there a way to force CF 6.1 to update a cached query programatically. There are a couple of potential options off the top of my head. If the times that the query is run are set, you could use a cachedwithin attribute to force it to expire after a certain period. If you want to force a flush, you could invoke the CF factory object and force it to flush all queries. To invoke the factory... cfset factory = CreateObject(java, coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory) You can CFDUMP the factory object to find the exact method to call, I don't remember what it is off hand. -Justin Scott ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222063 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
-Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you ever looked at the standard code developers use to access the XmlHTTPRequest object? Nope, and I've never used it myself. So I learned something new today. :) So far my Ajax apps have been fairly simple stuff. Since I'm a CF developer, I tend to do all of my heavy lifting in the CF code (XML stuff, data formatting, etc.) I just use ajax to fire off a CF function, then I stuff the results on the page. I think most people are going to run into browser compatibility issues when they try to do more complicated things in their JS instead of their CF. Just because you're a Firefox guy, it doesn't mean your users necessarily are. Personally, I won't use Firefox with GMail because of it's atrocious memory leak. I was not being serious when I said I filter out all IE users. I'm not so stupid that I'd cut off 86% of my market! This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222064 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flushing Cached Queries
after the database update use a cfobjectcache? http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-b11.htm On 10/24/05, John Beynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: set cachedwithin to 0? Okay, this is probably something obvious I'm either overlooking or not thinking of. For some reason, I can figure out the really complicated things far easier than the ones that should be simple. Anyway Is there a way to force CF 6.1 to update a cached query programatically. That is, is there a way to force the query to re-run even if the timeout specified in cachedwithin is not up yet. We've got a client who runs a database update routine at a certain time, and we want to try and run the query just before (to cache it across the update) and just after (to pick up the updated data). Ideas? --Ben ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222065 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Tim Blair No, but because the current version of IE doesn't support XMLHttpRequest you have to use something like the following: xmlhttp = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP); Ok, my ignorance stems from this: I use CFAjax. Apparently CFAjax must have a provision for IE that creates an ActiveXObject when necessary, but I never new that because I've never bothered to dig in the code that makes up CFAjax. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222066 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFEclipse and JS...
For all of you using CFE, I have a question. What do you use as a plugin for editing JS? I installed the JSEclipse plugin and it works nicely, but it won't work when I open a JS file from the File Explorer view. Has anyone else noticed and been annoyed by that? Is there a way to fix it? I've got the file asscociations set up correctly and if I open the JS from the Navigator view, it works. However, I like the File Explorer view much, much better and I'd really like to get it working from there, if possible. --Ferg ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222067 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Sean, But 98% of all computers already have Flash and it behaves the same on every machine. The HTML code needed to embed Flash is simple, well-understood and supported everywhere. Sure, I was just trying to balance out Joe's argument that you need a clumsy workaround for getting AJAX functions to work. I think, like Jacob's post highlights, if you're using an abtraction layer then you don't even have to worry about the workaround. You try visiting some of the current AJaX-style sites in a variety of browsers and see what happens! Surely that's more to do with the actual site development and testing, and less to do with the browsers themselves? There seems to be a big push at the moment (which I disagree with) to get new apps out as fast as possible and fix them once they're live (beta anyone?). If you're going to develop something, do it well! So you advocate building *two* versions of your website? And how many sites out there actually do that? To be honest: not many (see my point about beta sites above). But if you have your application built on a decent base (using pick-your-own-framework) then all the functionality you need to perform the non-AJAX requests (hopefully) already exists and can be easily reused. I know they have slightly bigger resources than the rest of us, but Google have a static (non-AJAX) HTML version of Gmail available. I just don't see it as an either Flash or 'AJaX'-style stuff issue, I think we'll increasingly see a blend of both. I'm just tackling some of the anti-Flash sentiments in Tim's email... I totally agree! I wasn't bashing Flash at all, just trying to show the other side of the coin like yourself! :) As for seeing an increase in a blend: we're about to embark on just such a project -- AJAX and Flash used where appropriate and for what they're good at. Flex brings that for Flash content: no binary files, just MXML and AS3. ... But Flex is extremely natural for CF developers - a tag-based layout language and a JavaScript-style (ECMA standard compliant) scripting language. ... That may be true of Flash authoring but isn't true of Flex (since it likely would be your development team doing it, not some other developer). My points were for our development team and at this time. The cost of Flex has been prohibitive for the apps we've been developing using AJAX, but that was not the primary reason to develop AJAX solutions instead of Flex -- in our case an HTML interface was more preferable! Again, Of course, these sort of restrictions will be removed once Flex 2 comes out, but at the moment an AJAX solution is preferable to a full Flex licence! That depends on how you define preferable In the case of our AJAX development so far it really hasn't been worth forking out for a Flex licence, but that's not to say we've not done any Flex dev: I spent a few months working on a completely Flex based app and think that it's a fantastic platform. Can't wait for Flex 2! :) Tim. -- --- Badpen Tech - CF and web-tech: http://tech.badpen.com/ --- RAWNET LTD - independent digital media agency We are big, we are funny and we are clever! New site launched at http://www.rawnet.com/ --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222068 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and JS...
I use MyEclipse, which is a very inexpensive set of J2EE plugins that includes XML, CSS, and JS editors, along with a whole slew of other things. When I last renewed, it was $29/yr, I believe, and well worth it. cheers, barneyb On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all of you using CFE, I have a question. What do you use as a plugin for editing JS? I installed the JSEclipse plugin and it works nicely, but it won't work when I open a JS file from the File Explorer view. Has anyone else noticed and been annoyed by that? Is there a way to fix it? I've got the file asscociations set up correctly and if I open the JS from the Navigator view, it works. However, I like the File Explorer view much, much better and I'd really like to get it working from there, if possible. --Ferg -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222069 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I'm working on it right now. Have you an author to recommend? Judith I would LOVE to get some AJAX instruction targeted specifically to CF. Will you do it for me please? :) ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222070 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: real time cftree?
No, to do what you are talking about you would need to build a custom Flash piece. We had to do something similar for a project we did and it required a pretty good Flash developer to make it work properly. There is a pre-built Flash component that works just like CFTREE, but is designed to be extensible so that you can add the kind of high level functionality you are talking about. HTH Alan On 10/24/05, John Beynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to make a real time populated cftree? eg, given a datastructure, ID, parentID, title could you use cftree and as you open/close branches in the tree have it retrieve via flashremoting the branches? thanks, john. -- a href= http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesamp;id=734amp;t=1;Get Firefox!/a ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222071 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
On 10/24/05, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you ever looked at the standard code developers use to access the XmlHTTPRequest object? Nope, and I've never used it myself. So I learned something new today. :) So far my Ajax apps have been fairly simple stuff. Since I'm a CF developer, I tend to do all of my heavy lifting in the CF code (XML stuff, data formatting, etc.) I just use ajax to fire off a CF function, then I stuff the results on the page. I think most people are going to run into browser compatibility issues when they try to do more complicated things in their JS instead of their CF. Just because you're a Firefox guy, it doesn't mean your users necessarily are. Personally, I won't use Firefox with GMail because of it's atrocious memory leak. I was not being serious when I said I filter out all IE users. I'm not so stupid that I'd cut off 86% of my market! Oh no, I totally knew you were joking. I was just making the point that even avid Firefox users such as myself might choose to use IE for AJAX-heavy applications until memory leaks and such are fixed on client sites. Regards, Dave. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222072 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Me and my co-worker as well We've started looking at some AJAX stuff... and we're quite interested. Yves On 10/24/05, J W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for what Tony said. I think it would blend nicely into what I work on daily here at the shop. ..and I definetly would like to see more Docs and code samples on it Jeff On 10/24/05, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im definitely interested, EXTREMELY interested in AJAX, CFAJAX and whatever cool asynch. javascript and cfml marriages that i can get my hands on :) i still dont have a 100% grasp on it... but some sample code/tutorials would be just too cool. :) tw ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222073 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WIN2003 ENT cluster mode?
We originally spec'd a SAN but unfortunately had the budget cut out from under us. It looks like we'll be doing 2 hardware loadbalanced servers attached with scsi to a dell powervault using windows enterprise cluster mode with cf7 enterprise. It's fairly affordable at just over 10k for a 3TB powervault array including the external perc cards for the servers. The only real downside is it can only handle 2 servers and will never be able to scale past 3TB. E -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WIN2003 ENT cluster mode? we run win2k3 enterprise for hosting fileshares for all our webfarms - each node has a fibre card in it accessing dedicated disks on a SAN. We have two disk resources, intranet and internet. Rather than having a redunant node in the cluster one node has the intranet resource disks attached to it whilst the other has the internet disks - should either node fail then the disk move over (it takes approximately 60 seconds to happen) to the other node but this way you don't have a box sitting there doing nothing.. Each node in the web farm win2k3 standard then runs cf enterprise (2 instances) with IIS mapped to the clustered fileshare - running in production for over 6 months no, zero downtime. jb On 10/24/05, Emmet McGovern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone running W2003 Enterprise in cluster mode with their CFMX7? We have an application that requires 2TB of storage and were thinking of running it with an attached scsi powervault from Dell. We'll need win enterprise in order to share the volume. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any caveats before we spend the cash on the setup. If anyone has any other large storage solutions I'd be interested in hearing that as well. Emmet ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222074 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I would recommend James Holmes, a member of this list. He's posted some good stuff to his blog lately. As far as I'm concerned, its darn hard to convince a developer to make good documentation, so once you find one you need to take advantage of it! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? I'm working on it right now. Have you an author to recommend? Judith I would LOVE to get some AJAX instruction targeted specifically to CF. Will you do it for me please? :) This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222075 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
I have to agree here, I have been doing some database moves over from 2 hosts to my local machine and back using phpMyAdmin with no probels at all... I tend to remove the comments and play with some settings. the output you are getting seems to be a character set?? maybe... or a bad mindset from the other developer. If you have access to your client's mysql admin page.. can you not do the dumps yourself? MD On 24/10/05, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the cleint didn't want to pay for any more of my time to fix something that should have been working already. While I have lost this client now, Cosidering the first point, the second is probabilly the best thing that could happen to you ;-/ Avoiding MySQL seems to be the best answer Not really, but keep in mind that the export feature in MySQL is mostly designed to generate a file usable to import data in another MySQL server. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222076 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Oh no, I totally knew you were joking. I was just making the point that even avid Firefox users such as myself might choose to use IE for AJAX-heavy applications until memory leaks and such are fixed on client sites. Another issue to keep in mind is that ActiveX is a virus/spyware magnet. If IE requires ActiveX for XMLHttp, then you are kind of screwed security wise (should you choose to use IE for Ajax sites instead of an alternative). This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222077 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
I do not... I just want to learn anything about it that I can. Thanks for taking the initiative on this. I appreciate it. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX? I'm working on it right now. Have you an author to recommend? Judith I would LOVE to get some AJAX instruction targeted specifically to CF. Will you do it for me please? :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222078 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
If IE requires ActiveX for XMLHttp, then you are kind of screwed security wise (should you choose to use IE for Ajax sites instead of an alternative). But like I pointed out earlier: without ActiveX enabled you can't use Flash on IE either... Tim. -- --- Badpen Tech - CF and web-tech: http://tech.badpen.com/ --- RAWNET LTD - independent digital media agency We are big, we are funny and we are clever! New site launched at http://www.rawnet.com/ --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222079 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
On 10/24/05, Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and my co-worker as well We've started looking at some AJAX stuff... and we're quite interested. I'm not sure if people are familar with the people over at pragmaticprogrammer.com, but they write some incredibly interesting, yet easy to read books for developers. They keep the books tightly focused on the book title's subject matter, and are relatively short so that you don't have to lug around a mammoth brick. They have released a beta version of their upcoming Pragamatic AJAX: A Web 2.0 Primer, which, if it follows with their other titles, will quickly become an excellent ground-up resource for integrating AJAX with your current work. Have a look, as they are offering a deal where you can get the PDF and hard copy book combo for just the PDF price. http://pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/ajax/index.html Note that I do not in any way work for them, nor is there any sort of shady referral bonus. I just like to support good work. Regards, Dave. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222080 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Question: How Much of an Interest is there in AJAX?
Well, for information, you may want to try and contact Arjun at www.indiankey.com. Judith Dinowitz wrote: I'm working on it right now. Have you an author to recommend? Judith I would LOVE to get some AJAX instruction targeted specifically to CF. Will you do it for me please? :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222081 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Credit card verification
Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222082 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Credit card verification
Most decent modern payment gateways will allow you to do this. Do you have any particular requirements for what type of payment gateway you need to use? Spike On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222083 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Credit card verification
You should be able to authorize the charge. This is typically done at gas stations - they authorize up to $75, then cancel the transaction. It should never show up unless you actually charge the amount or if you forget to remove the authorization. Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Credit card verification Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222084 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Credit card verification
You should be able to just authorize a dollar (with a short timespan, if possible), and never use it. cheers, barneyb On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222085 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Credit card verification
Not sure how you're implementing this but couldn't you just Authorize a penny or something on the card and use AVS (address verification) to check? On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222086 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Credit card verification
During the process of charging the credit card, they should validate the Name and address information in the same event. Thus if it fails validation, should be an error returned by the processing Gateway to indicate such. I know LinkPoint does this for address validation. -Original Message- From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Credit card verification Most decent modern payment gateways will allow you to do this. Do you have any particular requirements for what type of payment gateway you need to use? Spike On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222087 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Credit card verification
We use Verisign's Payflow system. It gives you a flag with which you can do a test run of the card without actually processing it. Another option (which we don't do) is to allow you to mark off $ against the account temporarily in an authorization step. Here you claim that you are about to charge them, but actually don't until later. If you never send the final collection hit later, the authorization expires. The credit card is never charged. -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Credit card verification Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222088 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Credit card verification
That's what we were doing with linkpoint, but they've screwed up the account and we can't get it back up till we talk to people in Florida. Guess what's in Florida now. :) I was hoping that someone had done authorizations using paypal so I don't have to dig too deep. Guess I'll have to. You should be able to just authorize a dollar (with a short timespan, if possible), and never use it. cheers, barneyb On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222089 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
If you have access to your client's mysql admin page.. can you not do the dumps yourself? I don't know, but I suppose there are some settings to give permissions to users. It is elementary that you should have access yourself to the export facility so that you can set some options depending on the database you intend to import data. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222090 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: real time cftree?
It's easy to handle with Flash... but as far as having CF handle real time updates, sorry. Let me know what you're trying to accomplish and I might have something in Flash you could use... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 24, 2005 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: real time cftree? Is it possible to make a real time populated cftree? eg, given a datastructure, ID, parentID, title could you use cftree and as you open/close branches in the tree have it retrieve via flashremoting the branches? thanks, john. -- a href=http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesamp;id=734amp;t=1;G et Firefox!/a ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222091 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Credit card verification
yep it's called a pre-authorization in the bricks and mortar worldI'm pretty sure you can do it for online payments as well (and yes there will most likley be a Tx fee just for pre-auth). HTH Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Credit card verification Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222092 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and JS...
On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all of you using CFE, I have a question. What do you use as a plugin for editing JS? I installed the JSEclipse plugin and it works nicely, but it won't work when I open a JS file from the File Explorer view. Has anyone else noticed and been annoyed by that? Is there a way to fix it? By File Explorer view I assume you mean the view specific to CFEclipse? Very likely it only knows how to open files in the CF editor. Go log a bug: http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/ (you need to register with Tigris to submit bugs but it's free) -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222093 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] Credit card verification
Like others have mentioned, you can authorize a payment without actually taking it. Also, you can charge a small amount (must be at least $1 for most CCs) and refund it. The first method (for obvious reasons) is typically preferred. As an example, in the PayfloPro CC setup, you can pass a transaction type variable. IIRC, C=charge, R=refund, and A=authorize. Basically, all an Authorize statement does is ask the CC's parent database if the CC is valid, the AVS is correct, and the card is good for the amount authorized. HTH. Feel free to contact me off-list (as always). --Ben Michael Dinowitz wrote: Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal. Thanks ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222094 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Dynamically Sort HTML Tables
Howdy, I have implemented the sorttable.js script from http://www.kryogenix.org/code/browser/sorttable/ to dynamically sort a table of data on the client side. The issue I have with this implementation is that it doesn't seem to properly sort date columns. Is anyone aware of a Javascript script that will sort data in a table and that properly handles sorting of date columns? Thanks! -- Chris Montgomery Airtight Web Services http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-2415 (office), 210-232-2790 (mobile) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222095 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Credit card verification
and we can't get it back up till we talk to people in Florida. Guess what's in Florida now. :) For Sarasota County, a day off. We had slight winds through the night with occasional power outages (which are now all corrected) but no damage to speak of. As a precaution, everyone pretty much announced they would be closed today, so here we are on a gorgeous, cool breezy day with nothing to do except read mailing lists g. -Justin Scott ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222096 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
Avoiding MySQL seems to be the best answer Not really, but keep in mind that the export feature in MySQL is mostly designed to generate a file usable to import data in another MySQL server. That's not *quite* true -- there are flags for the mysqldump utility to format the resulting dump file for a number of target database platforms in the newer versions of the command line tool (4.1.0+) --compatible=name Change the dump to be compatible with a given mode. Bydefault tables are dumped in a format optimized for MySQL. Legal modes are: ansi, mysql323, mysql40, postgresql, oracle, mssql, db2, maxdb, no_key_options, no_table_options, no_field_options. One can use several modes separated by commas. -- I've found that it often works better than DTS for straightforward database conversions into MS-SQL for example. (If there's a lot of conversion to do, I find DTS wins though). John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222097 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dynamically Sort HTML Tables
It seems to work fine on their page. Are you writing out 2-digit months days? Just a guess, though. --Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, I have implemented the sorttable.js script from http://www.kryogenix.org/code/browser/sorttable/ to dynamically sort a table of data on the client side. The issue I have with this implementation is that it doesn't seem to properly sort date columns. Is anyone aware of a Javascript script that will sort data in a table and that properly handles sorting of date columns? Thanks! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222098 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dynamically Sort HTML Tables
Try this one: http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/sortabletable/sortabletable.html Ben Doom wrote: It seems to work fine on their page. Are you writing out 2-digit months days? Just a guess, though. --Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, I have implemented the sorttable.js script from http://www.kryogenix.org/code/browser/sorttable/ to dynamically sort a table of data on the client side. The issue I have with this implementation is that it doesn't seem to properly sort date columns. Is anyone aware of a Javascript script that will sort data in a table and that properly handles sorting of date columns? Thanks! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222099 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
stop: SHOUTING
Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone knows a good way to recognise when all the characters are capitalised? Some users love putting text in CAPS and it just looks awful when it's displayed on screen. Any help I'd be grateful. Thanks, Saturday ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222100 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: MySQL database export
On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh no, the MySQL tools are just horrible. I've always used the cmd line for most of my interaction with MySQL, but I've been using EMS MySQL Manager lately and it is really nice. It was installed on my machine when I started this job and I've really fallen into using it quite a bit. I've used Toad with Oracle and Enterprise Mangler/ QA with SQL Server quite a bit, but I think they both pale in comparison to the EMS product with MySQL. I think quite horrible is an exaggeration, especially compared to using a web interface (phpMyAdmin) which is the other common, free GUI used for MySQL. The Health pages of the Administrator are a pretty great way to summarize information in one place and the Query Browser provides a good way to work on scripts in a GUI text editor (as opposed to writing long queries at the command line and trying to save them to file, etc). Of course if you've got $100 (Navicat) to $400 (EMS Pro) a tool always helps. Me, I'd enjoy using the Embarcadero Suite, or at least Toad for MySQL but command line and the MySQL GUI tools to an fine job for the price. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222101 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: stop: SHOUTING
There maybe another way but you could always check the ASCII values. Lowercase and UPPERCASE have different values. However checking this for each letter in a TEXTAREA is quite a bit. Sure there is another way.. Hopefully someone has an easy answer. -Original Message- From: Saturday (Stuart Kidd) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: stop: SHOUTING Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone knows a good way to recognise when all the characters are capitalised? Some users love putting text in CAPS and it just looks awful when it's displayed on screen. Any help I'd be grateful. Thanks, Saturday ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222102 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: stop: SHOUTING
refind([a-z], text) is 0 Looks to find the first lowercase letter. If none are found, it returns 0. Of course, it won't help you find things like i HAVE MY CAPS LOCK ON BY MISTAKE, sTUART! --Ben Saturday (Stuart Kidd) wrote: Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone knows a good way to recognise when all the characters are capitalised? Some users love putting text in CAPS and it just looks awful when it's displayed on screen. Any help I'd be grateful. Thanks, Saturday ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222103 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: stop: SHOUTING
Just wondering if anyone knows a good way to recognise when all the characters are capitalised? Some users love putting text in CAPS and it just looks awful when it's displayed on screen. Ben's regexp should work, or you can compare... cfif str is uCase(str) is all caps /cfif -Justin Scott ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222104 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: stop: SHOUTING
cfset theWord = form.UserInput / cfif compare(form.UserInput, ucase(form.UserInput)) EQ 0 -- word is all caps might be able to build on that? On 10/24/05, Adkins, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There maybe another way but you could always check the ASCII values. Lowercase and UPPERCASE have different values. However checking this for each letter in a TEXTAREA is quite a bit. Sure there is another way.. Hopefully someone has an easy answer. -Original Message- From: Saturday (Stuart Kidd) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: stop: SHOUTING Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone knows a good way to recognise when all the characters are capitalised? Some users love putting text in CAPS and it just looks awful when it's displayed on screen. Any help I'd be grateful. Thanks, Saturday ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222105 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: stop: SHOUTING
what about comparing number of uppercase characters to number of lowercase?
cfscript
str=i HAVE MY CAPS LOCK ON BY MISTAKE!;
str=rereplace(str,[^a-zA-Z],,ALL);
ucasecount = len(rereplace(str,[a-z],,ALL));
lcasecount = len(rereplace(str,[A-Z],,ALL));
if(ucasecount gt lcasecount){
writeoutput(More uppercase (ucasecount) than lowercase (lcasecount)
characters found. you might be SHOUTING.);
}
/cfscript
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2005 19:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: stop: SHOUTING
cfset theWord = form.UserInput /
cfif compare(form.UserInput, ucase(form.UserInput)) EQ 0 -- word is all
caps
might be able to build on that?
On 10/24/05, Adkins, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There maybe another way but you could always check the ASCII values.
Lowercase and UPPERCASE have different values.
However checking this for each letter in a TEXTAREA is quite a bit.
Sure there is another way.. Hopefully someone has an easy answer.
-Original Message-
From: Saturday (Stuart Kidd) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: stop: SHOUTING
Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone knows a good way to recognise when all the
characters are capitalised? Some users love putting text in CAPS and it
just looks awful when it's displayed on screen.
Any help I'd be grateful.
Thanks,
Saturday
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