CF8/Vagrant
Does anyone have good resources for a working CF8 Vagrant setup? Ive gotten pretty close, with Ubuntu + Tomcat 7 + a CF8 WAR I have. I only have the WAR, and not the original installer, and its of course no longer available for download. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:357050 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Adobe hacked
Kinda surprised no one else here has said anything, but with the Adobe breach, change your Adobe.com password immediately. http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2013/10/important-customer-security-announcement.html http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2013/10/illegal-access-to-adobe-source-code.html Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356873 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Calling Charlie Arehart, you are being paged :-) All CFMeetups are recorded for posterity, and while seemingly inactive, Charlie is always open to folks presenting. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's recorded anywhere, but if you want me to give it somewhere, let me know. ;) nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here: https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording anywhere. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a database. It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm... although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I suppose it will be the same with LESS files. The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source; CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :) -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Blog: http://rogerthegeek.wordpress.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356801 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
LESS (and SASS/SCSS) are common, widely used CSS preprocessors. Frameworks like Bootstrap come with LESS files. I could also write my own database use XML files and CF's XML/struct/array capabilities, but that would be quite ridiculous. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com wrote: Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor. But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF. So what is the advantage of using yet another technology? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356756 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here: https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording anywhere. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a database. It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm... although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I suppose it will be the same with LESS files. The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source; CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :) -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Blog: http://rogerthegeek.wordpress.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356757 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Job Openings With Our Direct Client for COLD FUSION DEVELOPER@CHICAGO IL 60606 // SAN ANTONIO TX 78209 // ATLANTA GA 30308
The wording of the email was obviously what is copy-and-pasted to individuals, so I probably would have made the same mistake. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Apr 23, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: And I feel dumb for not realizing ha was posted to the list and not sent to me directly, hahahaha. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Apr 23, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: You may have more luck if you use the actual name of the technology. ColdFusion, not Cold Fusion. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Sharan sha...@suntechnologies.com wrote: Greetings from Sun Technologies! My name is Sharan Gowda and I'm a Recruiter at Sun Technologies Inc. Our records show that you have past or current experience with skills fitting a current opening with our Direct End Client. Please be aware that our database has searched out your resume based on key word skills, so please accept my apologies if this requirement does not match your current or preferred job profile or location preference. I would love to show my appreciation with referral fee(s) for anyone I hire through your referral/introduction/recommendation, including confidential referrals. If you know anyone who is interested / qualified, please feel free to pass on my contact info as you see fit. Job Details Job Title: COLD FUSION DEVELOPER Job Location: CHICAGO IL 60606 // SAN ANTONIO TX 78209 // ATLANTA GA 30308 Duration: EXPECTED TO BE 8 MONTHS CONTRACT WITH POSSIBLE EXTENSION Positions: 3 PLEASE LIST IN THE SUPPLIMENTAL AREA WHERE CANDIDATE IS ELIGIABLE TO WORK This position will work on ColdFusion report development and migration for the new One Click initiative. The candidate must possess cross-browser web-development skills including IE (all versions), Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. Other critical skill sets include ColdFusion 9 or later and a working knowledge of SQL Server Query Design Optimization SQL Server Integration Services (SSIS), familiarity with Eclipse/CFEclipse or Dreamweaver, jQuery, HTML-4/5 and Cascading Style sheets. Skills Inventory Skill Experience Need 1) Cold Fusion 10 Expert Required 2) SQL Server Query Design Expert Required 3) CSS-2 Expert Required 4) HTML 4 (minimum) Expert Required 5) JQuery Intermediate Desired 6) Eclipse-Dreamweaver Intermediate Desired 7) Webservices using XML Intermediate Required 8) Prior ATT Experience Intermediate Desired Please fill the below information and send it along with your resume in word format: * Visa status (Citizen / Green Card / TN / EAD/H1B): * Expected Hourly Rate: * Employment Type: * Availability: * Best number and time to reach you: Thanks Regards, Sharan Gowda, Sun Technologies, Inc. 3700 Mansell Road Suite 125 Alpharetta GA 30022 Phone number - 678-713-5809 Fax 678-459-1068 Email: mailto:sha...@suntechnologies.com sha...@suntechnologies.com http://www.suntechnologies.com/ http://www.suntechnologies.com Disclaimer: We respect your on-line privacy. This is not an unsolicited mail. Under Bill 1618 Title III passed by the 105th US Congress this mail cannot be considered Spam as long as we include contact information and a method to be removed from our mailing list. If you are not interested in receiving our e-mails then please reply with a REMOVE in the subject line or mailto:feedb...@suntechnologies.com click here to Remove your name from the mailing list. I am sorry for any inconvenience ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355566 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Standard w3c tags
My understanding is that meta, per the spec, can contain anything, which is what Dave was alluding to. Come to think of it, are there more meta tags doesn't really make since. There's only one tag. There's common attributes, but attribute values aren't standardized on, tags are. It's a bit like asking How many a tags are there? Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Well sure, there may be. Any browser can support whatever the heck they wanted. But if you want to know the *official* list, the spec is your best bet. If you are curious about what the other browsers support, check out this blog entry I did where I talked about how to find docs for the major vendors: http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2012/8/6/What-tags-does-your-browser-support-2012 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:57 AM, funand learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Apart from the example list provided, are there more meta tags? On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I'm confused, but wouldn't the spec (your link) be the standard? On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:41 AM, funand learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: All - What are the list of standard meta tags defined in w3c other than the below given at http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Elements/meta meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / meta http-equiv=Content-Style-Type content=text/css / meta name=copyright content=© W3C / meta name=author lang=en content= / meta name=robots content=Index,Follow / meta name=description content=The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is an international community where Member organizations, a full-time staff, and the public work together to develop Web standards. / meta name=keyword content=W3C, HTML, CSS, SVG, Web standards / I posted the same question in stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16171686/list-of-standard-w3c-meta-tags Thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355567 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion and Adobe Echosign - any examples?
I don't know of any specific examples, so it looks to be a SOAP web service. cfscript echosignWs = CreateObject('webservice','https://secure.echosign.com/services/EchoSignDocumentService15?wsdl'); docResult=echosignWs.createLibraryDocument(apiKey=myApiKey,libraryDocumentCreationInfo=myDocInfo); .. /cfscript You instantiate the service, and then call various methods on the API according to the docs at https://secure.echosign.com/public/docs/EchoSignDocumentService15. The most tedious part is creating the various input arguments, which often come from other methods. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: Do you know of any examples using Coldfusion to connect with Echosign's API? We are exploring moving from Docusign to Echosign for online document signing. We generate PDF documents on a website that site visitors then sign at Docusign. We transmit the PDF to be signed to Docusign and the users are notified how to sign it electronically there. If anyone is doing something similar with Echosign, I'm looking for CF examples that do this. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions, Stephen Hait ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
Probably not 100% scientific, but worth a look: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=ColdFusion%2C+groovy%2C+scala%2C+clojure%2C+node.jsl= Supposedly there's more hirings in CF than node.js, Scala, and Clojure. Groovy only recently took eclipsed CF. Now obviously there's the trend for CF is going down, and the other cool languages are going up. Still, I think a little perspective can be a reality check. You might not be developing CF in 10 or 20 years, but if your skills are good, I think there's still a few more years left to it. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Mar 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: programming. CF does what you need with server-side programming. But server-side application development tools are basically a commodity at this point. You can do anything with anything. There's nothing I can not quite. make sure you're sitting down not drinking anything, then check the price of an arcGIS server license (inside the US, prices outside the US might make your head explode). plus you need at least one desktop seat (about the same cost as enterprise cf) just to manage your arcGIS servers. in large enterprise projects that make use of that kind of server platform, cf's relatively cheap a very nice fit especially where you have to dip into java libs to get stuff done, run off reports, etc. Yeah, my comparison was aimed at general-purpose server-side programming environments, not stuff like arcGIS. And CF is definitely cheap for enterprise software - and that might actually be a problem in the enterprise, as people in the enterprise often equate cost with value. (There's no other explanation I have for the continued success of Oracle.) If you compare CF to ASP.NET, or to common J2EE environments, or to PHP, CF is easier to use, but not so much easier that everyone's going to switch to it from those other things. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355025 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF10 lockdown question
+1 to FuseGuard. Implemented this on a site this a *lot* of SQL injection issues. No firewall or similar product is a substitute for well-written code, but putting this in place stopped the hemorrhaging overnight. +1 to HackMyCF as well. Use this on the main site I support, and I'm very happy with weekly updates (not only tells you what the problem is, but links to how to fix it) No, Pete isn't paying me to say this. :-) Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com 5) Employ redundant layers of security (defense in depth), for example using a web application firewall, such as the one my company makes http://fuseguard.com/ there are other ones that are non specific to CF as well. 6) Use security monitoring and scanning tools, such as a PCI scanner, and http://hackmycf.com/ (note HackMyCF is not a PCI scanner, you should still use a PCI scanner in addition to HackMyCF, which is highly CF specific). ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354856 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: question on cfloop
Not sure, but I believe the index at loop completion is incremented - that's how it knows how to stop. So it's similar to j=1; while(j2) { j++; } I've never used the loop index, and I don't think you should depend on it. Not sure what documented behavior is, but if it isn't documented in a specific way, it would be totally appropriate for it to go out of scope in a future version (kinda surprised it doesn't) Instead, use your own counter var. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:46 PM, funand learning funandlrnn...@gmail.com wrote: I am sorry, I wasn't clear. the to is arraylen. Sometimes the arraylen is 1 cfloop from=1 to=#ArrayLen(somearray)# index=j /cfloop cfoutput#j#/cfoutput --this returns 2 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Why are you looping from 1 to 1? That isn't a loop. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.com wrote: I have a query on looping in coldfusion.Why does the below loop run twice? cfloop from=1 to=1 index=j cfoutput#j#/cfoutput /cfloop I thought the above code should return only 1, but it returns 1 2 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354743 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: full file information
Java's NIO gives you that info, but requires JDK7. If you're on Windows, you could use the File class to get that info: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.io.file.aspx If on Linux or other *nix, you can use cfexecute and bash stat command, and parse the output. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: Only returns Lastmodified, not created or lastaccessed. On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: getFileInfo() On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: I've played with cfdirectory and cffile as well as their functional equivalents but none of them give me 'all' of the information available about a file. It'll give me the lastmodified date but not the created or accessed dates. Does anyone know of a cfx, java object, or something else that will get me all of the data available from a file? Thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354699 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF drag drop tutorial
Have you looked at adding jQueryUI, rather than rolling your own drag/drop? I've used it in the past with success. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Elizabeth Adkins eadk...@acisd.org wrote: I'm working on the same thing. This is what I have so far. It works up to the .JSON call, but I can't get that to work. Any suggestions? !--draganddrop.cfm--- head style type=text/css #div1 {width:336px;height:70px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #aa;} #div2 {width:336px;height:70px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #aa;} #div3 {width:336px;height:70px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #aa;} /style CFAJAXPROXY cfc=cfc.myPreferences jsclassname=myPreferences script type=text/javascript src=http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1/jquery.min.js;/script script type=text/javascript function allowDrop(ev) { ev.preventDefault(); } function drag(ev) { ev.dataTransfer.setData(Text,ev.target.id); } function drop(ev,empID,tab) { var data=ev.dataTransfer.getData(Text); var placement = ev.target.id; var widgetID = data; ev.target.appendChild(document.getElementById(data)); alert(widgetID +','+ placement +','+ empID +','+ tab); $.getJSON(/cfc/ myPreferences.cfc?method=updatePlacementreturnformat=json, {tabname:tabname}, function(result) {alert('Success!!! '+result.widget);} ); ev.preventDefault(); } /script /head body cfset empID = 'XXX' cfoutput div id=div1 ondrop=drop(event,'#empID#','info') ondragover=allowDrop(event)/div div id=div2 ondrop=drop(event,'#empID#','info') ondragover=allowDrop(event)/div div id=div3 ondrop=drop(event,'#empID#','info') ondragover=allowDrop(event)/div /cfoutput img id=mountain src=/images/001.jpg draggable=true ondragstart=drag(event) width=336 height=69 / img id=circle src=/images/delete.gif draggable=true ondragstart=drag(event) / img id=RoundedRectangle src=/images/check_off.gif draggable=true ondragstart=drag(event) / /body !---myPreferences.cfc CFCOMPONENT displayname=myPreferences CFFUNCTION name=updatePlacement access=remote returntype=struct output=yes CFARGUMENT name=tabname required=yes CFSET var showme = structNew() cfset showme.tab = ARGUMENTS.tabname CFRETURN showme /CFFUNCTION /CFCOMPONENT ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354325 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Source control in CF
To build on this idea, look at Vagrant. It allows your IT department (or whoever's responsible) to maintain a script that loads a VM, necessary assets, and code. I've written a Vagrant script for Railo: https://github.com/bdcravens/railo-vagrant Here's a Chef recipe Nathan Mische wrote for CF10 (which can be used in a Vagrant setup): https://github.com/nmische/chef-coldfusion10 Vagrant is awesome. Run a script, get a VM. Dev against a local directory on your machine, and check into source code repo as necessary. When you're done, shut the machine off. The shared directories don't go away (so you keep working code), but everything else does, until you need to spin it up again. Currently works against VirtualBox, VMWare coming soon. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Andy Ousterhout a...@omygoodness.com wrote: Why not just have a local VMware image for developer unit testing? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Michael Christensen mich...@strib.dk wrote: First of, let me thank all of you for your (quite lively) inputs. The discussion did spiral a bit out of control in a GIT vs SVN tussle, but I understand and can respect that people have strong opinions as to which systems they prefer. I also wholeheartedly agree, that there are certain advantages to be gained by each developer having a working copy of the code on their local machines. I would, however, contest the absoluteness of this as the only way to go. While it is true, that the CF Developer licensing does allow for each developer to run a CF server locally without paying a license fee, the time spent by the IT department setting up and supporting 50+ websites (plus our backend/admin software) on each developer machine does come at a cost. Add in the cost of additional licenses for 3rd party components (like ImageGlue or ISAPI rewrite for example) and the cost of being able to run code locally can add up quite quickly. For us at least, running on a shared codebase with 1 development server and all code available via a webpath (usually mounted as a drive for convenience) works quite well and has done so without major snafus for 10+ years. Is this an oldschool approach? Very much so. Is it a good solution? Maybe not for every company, but it works for us. I understand, that our setup makes running version/source control very difficult and it is a conclusion that I feared I might reach, when I posted the question initially. I think that I may have to go back and have a long, hard think about how we will proceed from here. If any of you, who are running a setup where each developer runs the code locally, I would be very appreciative if you could give me 30 minutes to an hour of your time, so I might pick your brain as to how you have gone about getting this setup and how you maintain it (I think this is probably best done over Skype). So once again, thank you guys so much for all your input :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF10 styling cftooltip?
You can't add a class to the cftooltip tag itself. Personally, I wouldn't use the CF UI tags. You'll get more control using any of the many tooltip jQuery plugins out there. That said You can always add a style inline using the style attribute. I assume there's a reason you're not doing that. Use Google Developer Tools to see the actual HTML rendered by CF and JavaScript (View source only shows you the HTML, not the rendered DOM). By doing this, I saw (in CF10): tooltip is in a div with class of yui-tt, so you can do something like the following: style .yui-tt {background:blue;} /style Of course, this would be global. Multiple tooltips, each with their own style? The text you hover over is enclosed in a span, with an id of cf_tooltip_(somerandomid). The tooltip itself is in a div with the span's id appended with _cf_tooltip. Wrapping cftooltip with a div makes it easy to perform specific tasks on that tooltip: div id=gotcha cftooltip autoDismissDelay=5000 hideDelay=250 showDelay=200 tooltip=Hey I am a tooltip generated by CF! Hover over me please /cftooltip /div Then use jQuery to act on it and set a class: (assuming you've setup .redbg in your CSS) script src=http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.8.3.min.js;/script script $(function() { $('#gotcha').mouseover(function(){ el = $(this).find('span[id^=cf_tooltip_]'); tooltipId=el.attr('id')+'_cf_tooltip'; $('#'+tooltipId).addClass('redbg'); }); }); /script Problem: the tooltip div isn't created until it's called the first time, so the first time, it'll have the default style. May be a way to cancel the mouseover event the first time, set the class, and then re-fire. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: I'm looking for an example of specifying style info for a cftooltip. I'd like to specify a class in a style sheet and reference that from the cftooltip tag. If that's not possible, how else can I go about this? Thanks, Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353607 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFScript Book
This publisher releases something like 10,000+ titles a year: they scrape Wikipedia content and sell it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDM_Publishing Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Carl Von Stetten wrote: Yeah, or how about the red seal on the cover that says High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles!? LOL :-D On 2/21/2012 11:04 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades wrote: You mean I should write a book on CFScript? Fantastic? Betascript Publishing hhhm... Anyone notice the tagline states: ColdFusion Markup Language, JavaScript, BlogCFC Now THAT is interesting... Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 2/20/2012 10:48 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote: Hello to all. Are there any CFScript books out there? I ordered this onw but it was a complete joke. A total waste of money: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cfscript-lambert-m-surhone/1026883099. All suggestions welcome. -RR ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350013 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment
If your machine is a Windows machine, should have no problem running IIS, and if it's Win7, should be able to set IIS like they have it. If a Mac, you can run Apache, but personally, I prefer just spinning up Tomcat and running via WARs - easier to stand up and tear down entire CF instances, in my opinion, so the admin isn't' cluttered with settings unrelated to the app I'm interested in at the moment. VMs run fine on 8GB - I'd allocate 1 or 2 GB, and you shouldn't have many problems. Things might run a bit slow, but that's fine while developing. However, VM is really only needed if you have some settings like .htaccess or web.config settings; probably only the case if your setup with CT is a VPS. OS licensing: Good idea to mirror what CT has, but that probably doesn't matter. However if Windows Server is needed, you can download a trial version if that meets your need. If you need a long-term license, an MS TechNet subscription would work (pretty sure for dev purposes doesn't violate the licensing there) for cheap. MS also had a program called WebsiteSpark, where based on your needs and qualifications, they give away licenses of Windows Server, SQL Server, Visual Studio, etc. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Smith wrote: hello. i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did other things, and now i am posting again. good to see you all. SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev. site(s) is on crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible. i can go apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis. would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could swing it to maintain equality between the dev and live. laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it? want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather than wait on disks. all my stuff is at home. thanks all! chedder ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348881 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon Product Advertising API
I've integrated into Amazon using some of their AWS services, though not the API you're referencing. I believe they all pretty much work the same: you send Amazon a specifically formatted string, and HMAC encode it. Look at the code inside of the AWS Console project on RIA Forge - I've used that one, and confirm that it works. It's split into a number of CFCs, so it should be pretty easy to pull out only what you need. I believe the S3 project referenced in the gist you posted is valid, but I can't comment on it as I've never used it. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Nov 26, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Rick T wrote: Hey guys having trouble getting this API to work. I was using an old script from Tom Dawe (http://amazonsig.riaforge.org) I then realized I was not getting commission, even though nothing was erroring out. Found out that this script is no longer valid. Found this new CFC (https://gist.github.com/874365), but there is no usage instructions... Anybody know the usage for this CFC, or a CFC that works with latest changes that Amazon made on their API? Thanks in Advance, ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348882 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed???
I believe you can implement socket.io without using node.js, which provides cross browser asynchronous push. The next version of ColdFusion will have full web socket support, but that doesn't help you today. Some sites are relying on PusherApp.com to provide this. Billy Cravens On Wednesday, October 5, 2011, Josh Nathanson joshnathan...@gmail.com wrote: Jenny - this is a Railo implementation of a web socket gateway, but it is helpful to understand the concept. http://wiki.getrailo.org/wiki/Extensions:WebSockets_Gateway -- Josh On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Interesting .. Josh, any good links on the subject you could point me to, please? TIA, Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:joshnathan...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 October 2011 17:53 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed??? If you want to get really jiggy with it, you can use a Gateway on the server side and connect to it using long polling or web sockets. This will push server changes to any connected clients immediately. -- Josh -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3885 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFPOP
#paragraphFormat(messageBody)# does the same thing. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Michael Grant wrote: pre#messageBody#/pre On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: I'm using CFPOP to import mail into an online archive. I'm just going to use the textbody to display the messages in the browser. My question is, what is the ideal way of formatting the message, replacing all the LF's, etc with br's. I'm thinking someone must have done this before, maybe I don't need to reinvent the wheel Many thanks in advance! Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: ColdFusion on .NET Rocks podcast
I've only been listening for the last year or so, and I've really gotten quite a bit from the show, both .NET and otherwise. As I told them, I don't think they suffer from fanboy fever, so maybe there's been a mellowing over the years. Thanks for the feedback, look forward to seeing at MAX. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Nathan Strutz wrote: Wow Billy, Carl was pretty hostile to CF a few years ago when I stopped listening. Great show, I'm really glad you did it. See you at MAX! nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: I recently had the opportunity to sit down and talk with the guys at .NET Rocks!, comparing ColdFusion to .NET. You may recall I had a few questions I asked here in prep for that interview. http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=696 Keep in mind that we were talking ColdFusion at a pretty high level, trying to compare it with .NET and identifying if it is a full featured platform that relevant to today's developer or if it's a relic of the past. (The hosts are great and love technology, and the conversation was a good one). There's plenty of nitty gritty we didn't talk about, and many points I meant to make but didn't, which I've tried to expand upon here: http://www.billycravens.com/coldfusion-on-net-rocks Billy Cravens ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347492 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
SOT: ColdFusion on .NET Rocks podcast
I recently had the opportunity to sit down and talk with the guys at .NET Rocks!, comparing ColdFusion to .NET. You may recall I had a few questions I asked here in prep for that interview. http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=696 Keep in mind that we were talking ColdFusion at a pretty high level, trying to compare it with .NET and identifying if it is a full featured platform that relevant to today's developer or if it's a relic of the past. (The hosts are great and love technology, and the conversation was a good one). There's plenty of nitty gritty we didn't talk about, and many points I meant to make but didn't, which I've tried to expand upon here: http://www.billycravens.com/coldfusion-on-net-rocks Billy Cravens ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347482 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Article on F'd Company mentions using CFML
Correct - see this URL: http://investor.apple.com/common/download/download.cfm Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: Besides, the Apple Investor site is not Apple's. The IP address is 206.200.251.19 running IIS6 Whois reports this Nasdaq Stock Market NASDAQ-BLK2 (NET-206-200-0-0-1) 206.200.0.0 - 206.200.255.255 American Registry for Internet Numbers NET206 (NET-206-0-0-0-0) 206.0.0.0 - 206.255.255.255 The Apple Store IP Address is 17.149.156.10 Whois shows Apple owns the Class A 17.0.0.0/8 But hey, at least Nasdaq is running ColdFusion Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Dave Watts wrote: Passing this along as an FYI for fun. Came across this on the High Scalability blog. Talks about what the creator of F'edCompany uses for his backend (hint - uses CFML): http://highscalability.com/blog/2011/8/31/pud-is-the-anti-stack-windows-cfml-dropbox-xeround-jungledis.html The article is kind of interesting, in that it really says bad things about his technology choices, yet in the end acknowledges that they're working fine for him. His Twitter feed points out something I'd never heard before. If you go here, you'll see a CF error message: http://investor.apple.com/Application.cfc We can do better than that: http://investor.apple.com/stockquote.cfm ... and, it's running on IIS 6! Server:Microsoft-IIS/6.0 X-Powered-By:ASP.NET Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347382 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Workstation recommendations
I prefer building my own as well. I've found that the low- and mid-range systems tend to be cheaper if you buy a brand (you'll be locked in, but those systems probably don't have a lot of shelf life anyways), but for the high end, you can get some serious bang for your buck building your own - I recently built a screamer (7.6 WEI) for $1500 (SSD, 4 1TB drives in RAID 10, 8GB Corsair memory, i7 2600K) - I bought it at MicroCenter, and probably could have shaved off a couple hundred bucks if I gone with NewEgg. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: I am more of a fan of building it myself. Most boards are plug and play. So no jumper or bios settings changes are generally needed. You can put together a pretty powerful system for less by going that route. Places like TigerDirect and NewEgg offer barebones kits that are a good starting point. Eric -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:45 AM To: cf-talk Subject: SOT: Workstation recommendations My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347302 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know how to fix this or why this happening?
My experience has been that it automatically overwrites the from address to the specified, but I only deal with that in development. (Perhaps that behavior has changed recently) Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 31, 2011, at 1:45 AM, Andrew Scott wrote: Thanks Billy, that was my intial reaction. As I had come across that post about the SPF and mail limits etc before. Which is why I thought it might have been a relay issue to begin with, because the mail is not actually sent using accounts email address. It is sent through that account, and sort of made sense that it might be seen as spam. But we are not seeing anything other than the logs in ColdFusion, I have added the SPF records just out of curiosity to see if this might help. But I am not 100% sure that will fix it, will have to wait and see. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: If you can send email, then you haven't hit the limit. Have you identified any patterns (size, to, from, cc, etc) on the messages that are unsuccessful? Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347157 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know how to fix this or why this happening?
Very similar to what you're reporting: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Apps/thread?tid=5f96d0e5cfc60a95hl=en It can be a limit issue - I believe Google's SMTP server reject all connections from that user once you hit limit (500/day or 2000/day for a premium account; I am very certain about the limit, just less so about how the SMTP server responds). I know you say it's been working before, but test the limit issue before you summarily dismiss it. Google does have that limit, and perhaps they only recently started enforcing it for you. To confirm whether or not it's a limit issue: Login to the web interface using the user you're using for CFMail, and try to send - if you hit a limit, you're locked out for 24 hours. You can always cycle through accounts to bypass the limit issue (this solution even shows up in Google's support pages, go figure) Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: That is still not an issue, this has been working for years. It has only just started to have these problems, and again I tried re-sending one at a time and one at a time fails. Like I said Google says that the error I pasted is a network bottle neck, as the reason is it times out waiting for a response. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: how many emails are you sending per day through gmail, there are limits, and it might be blocking you if you have exceeded them. For google Apps it is 500 per day per user. -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347153 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know how to fix this or why this happening?
If you can send email, then you haven't hit the limit. Have you identified any patterns (size, to, from, cc, etc) on the messages that are unsuccessful? Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Andrew Scott wrote: Bill, It does sound very similar, but there are two things that doesn't gel with me here. 1) this would mean that no more emails can be sent from this user, but I can send another email and it will be delivered fine. 2) It also says that for this to be true, then an email will be sitting in the users mailbox stating that it was not deliverable and that it was considered Spam. This is not the case, and lastly we are talking about something that has only just happened. It appears the Google have had this in place for many years, and we have only just began to receive this problem in the last 7 days. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: Very similar to what you're reporting: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Apps/thread?tid=5f96d0e5cfc60a95hl=en It can be a limit issue - I believe Google's SMTP server reject all connections from that user once you hit limit (500/day or 2000/day for a premium account; I am very certain about the limit, just less so about how the SMTP server responds). I know you say it's been working before, but test the limit issue before you summarily dismiss it. Google does have that limit, and perhaps they only recently started enforcing it for you. To confirm whether or not it's a limit issue: Login to the web interface using the user you're using for CFMail, and try to send - if you hit a limit, you're locked out for 24 hours. You can always cycle through accounts to bypass the limit issue (this solution even shows up in Google's support pages, go figure) Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347155 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Distributed servers?
If you're to evacuate, do it now. Copy the code and your database to a USB key or your laptop. When you get somewhere that has Internet access, it's a lot simpler than you'd think. Go to aws.amazon.com, setup an account. Create an micro or small EC2 instance running Windows - look for an AMI that runs SQL Server Express. It'll take a few minutes to spin up, but once it does, you RDP in - you set up CF and your database like you would on any other server. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 27, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Al Musella, DPM wrote: Hate to ask - I know I am supposed to google first - but I am under a mandatory evacuation - have to leave by 5pm.. (half hour ago:).. I did google and couldn't find a succinct way. DO you know of a simple guide to setting up a cold fusion website under Amazon? Bonus points for including sql server:) Al At 05:56 AM 8/27/2011, you wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Al Musella, DPM wrote: Luckily, people will understand down time due to a hurricane.. not too worried about a few minutes of data loss - I have a way to recover in case there is a loss... Sounds like you could get away with synchronizing your database transaction logs to somewhere with rsync. That easily keeps your data loss under 10 minutes and if you have a prepared AMI/VPS image somewhere you could be up and running again in 15 minutes. Just make sure your DNS TTL is low enough for that. when anything in this patient registry is added or updated, I send an email to my gmail account with the old and new data (encrypting any person info)... so if worst case happens, I can manually go back and fix things. But that only works if the email is not spooled on your local system. So you need to both disable the disk mail spool and use a remote SMTP server. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347053 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Wordpress password encryption decrypt with ColdFusion
Not really possible - it's not encrypted, it's an MD5 hash. You'll find plenty of links on how to *reset* the password (as the generous Google URL copy-and-paster provided), but that's not what you're asking for. There are ways to crack a password, if you have a large enough MD5 hash database, but that's not a good approach. Your better approach is to convert the Wordpress to use a single sign on solution, such as oAuth. There are a number of WordPress plugins for this. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Joel Black wrote: I have a website I am building that will be a 2 piece solution. It will have a blog built with Wordpress, but the main website and store will be built with ColdFusion. We want the user to be able to log into the blog, and log into their shopping cart with the same username and password. So my question is how do I decrypt the password from the Wordpress style encryption. Also, I will have to encrypt the password to the Wordpress style if a user registers for an account in the checkout process. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347008 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Wordpress password encryption decrypt with ColdFusion
Didn't think about that - you'd have to specify the algorithm: hashedPw = hash(form.password, 'MD5') When I get a chance, I'll test it against my Wordpress install. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: Not really possible - it's not encrypted, it's an MD5 hash. I odn't know if WordPress uses a hash, but if it does - you can absolutely authenticate against that using ColdFusion's Hash() function. hashedwordpresspassword = readWordPressPasswordFromDisc(); if(hash(form.password) eq hashedwordpresspassword) { return good login; } else { return bad login; } oAuth would work too, but will be much much more work. Much. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347015 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Wordpress password encryption decrypt with ColdFusion
Yeah, I only quickly glanced at the docs (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/CFMLRef/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec22c24-7c52.html) - it lists CFMX_COMPAT as the default, but that's the same as MD5. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't think about that - you'd have to specify the algorithm: hashedPw = hash(form.password, 'MD5') Nope. MD5 is the default. hash(form.password) will work just fine. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347020 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Distributed servers?
These days I'm all about letting someone else manage my data. That of course carries with it the questions of whether or not you can trust others with it I'm looking at Amazon's RDS. If you set up multiple availability zones, it automatically replicates and fails over. No DNS changes needed. (Plus they handle backups, etc) I know the MySQL version offers this - not sure about the Oracle flavor. (No SQL Server however) I believe SQL Server Azure provides this functionality. Billy Cravens On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Al Musella, DPM muse...@virtualtrials.comwrote: Hi I am getting a little worried about this hurricane.. we were just told to evacuate on Saturday.. I have my server in my office. The website runs a brain cancer registry with pretty important database stuff. More valuable than money:) How would you approach setting up a redundant server across the country so if my town gets wiped out, we still have access to the website? The problem would be: keeping the databases synched DNS stuff: how to set up DNS so that if my main server goes down, people are directed to the backup website and when the server is back up, the dns reverts back to the main site? I use MS SQL server for the database. It is not a high volume of transactions per day - but they are kind of important. thanks Al ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347022 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995
dotnetrocks.com - I presume it'll be posted on the site around the mid-September Billy Cravens What podcast is it so we can all listen :) Paul On 24/08/2011, at 3:05 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346989 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995
In my preliminary conversations with the hosts, that already was mentioned: the idea that CF has a rich history, not so much a nanny-nanny-boo-boo we're older than the language you do :-) I think the interest is that had things gone a little different, a .NET developer would be writing aspquery tags today :) That said, CF was referred to as a blast from the past on a prior show, which led me to contact Carl and Richard - so we'll definitely be focusing on CF in 2011, not history. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Mike Chabot wrote: Billy, I wish you well with the podcast. I listen to DotNetRocks all the time. On the specific question you asked, I would recommend not bringing up that topic at all because of the points Dave mentioned, and also because most .NET programmers would not care about an ancient business transaction that never happened. The topic of the conversation seems interesting. If you would like feedback on what you were thinking of talking about, go ahead and post it to the list (maybe a different thread though). -Mike Chabot On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: dotnetrocks.com - I presume it'll be posted on the site around the mid-September Billy Cravens What podcast is it so we can all listen :) Paul On 24/08/2011, at 3:05 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346992 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995
Thanks Dave. I guess authoritative isn't the correct word, as much as I'm looking for details (who, when, etc). Probably won't be that big a deal, since the focus of the talk is why .NET developers should care about CF, but I like to be prepared, since I'll definitely bring predating ASP. :-) I don't think you're going to find a more authoritative source for the acquisition attempt than Jeremy Allaire and Adam Berrey. The other information is accurate as well, as I remember it. I tried out dbWeb, and it wasn't as good as CF 1.5. Microsoft did acquire Aspect, released DBWeb, then dumped it for ASP 1.0 (I don't know anything about the ASP 1.0 codebase coming from i-Whatever). Oddly enough, there's still dbWeb documentation on the MS support site: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/155412 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
(ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995
I'm scheduled to talk CF on a pretty big .NET podcast, and one thing that will likely come up is the idea that CF predates ASP, and likely the subject of the attempted acquisition of Allaire back in the day will come up. Does anyone know anything solid about this? I want to make sure I sound half-way knowledgeable, and the best I've come up with are: http://www.tophosts.com/articles/?3016.html http://web.archive.org/web/20031204233900/http://meet-the-makers.com/conversations/allaire/ Thanks in advance! Billy Cravens ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346931 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Macromedia.com
haha - I love it! Though I think cf-conspiracy may work as well - seems like half the posts nowadays are about everything that MM does wrong, and how they are conspiring against CF developers - Original Message - From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:14 AM Subject: Re: Macromedia.com I get the impression the time has come for a new mailinglist: cf-FUD. Opens a whole new range of advertisement possibilities. I imagine a typical message on cf-FUD would look something like this: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Macromedia.com MicroMedia Big rumors abound in Macromedia land... word is the company is in dire straights and that discussions between Macromedia and Microsoft are in the works. Acquisition? Possibly... probably just Flash, DreamWeaver, and UltraDev -- and in the meanwhile, kill off MS ASP competitor (not really) ColdFusion. Who knows about FreeHand and Director... Layoffs imminent. When: 1/30/2002 Company: Macromedia - This message is sponsored by insert favourite b*llsh*t company. Visual Studio, the only RAD tool nobody got fired for buying. other company, the number one place to host ASP.NET applications. - cf-FUD: because you *need* the latest Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!!! How about it Michael? Jochem __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia.com
This definitely needs to be updated for a comparison with .NET (particularly ASP.NET). I think the comparisons that are out there compare CF 4.0 to ASP 2, which is horribly out of date (should compare CF 5.0 to ASP 3 and ASP.NET) Of course, I know this may go against the current bandwagon of saying we will support .NET that everyone and their dog seems to do nowadays - I think .NET is a solid platform, but I want to see true alternatives (On a side note - I've heard that MM will support .NET - how on earth can you be a true J2EE engine but still have support for the .NET CLR?) - Original Message - From: Earl, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:39 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia.com Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I never saw it hit the list . . . Jeremy, I'd like to see a really nice section at the re-built site that answers the CF vs. ASP and who's using CF type questions that we all get asked so often. When I get these kinds of questions, or when someone asks me to explain why I think we should go with CF instead of a competing product, I'd like to be able to go right to Macromedia and pull up a few pages with all the ammunition I need to support my recommendation. It should be front and center off the main page where I can't miss it. It should be built using the very tools I am recommending and it should showcase what can be done with those tools. In addition to the other stuff, I'd also like to see included in these pages a list of sites, companies and organizations that are using CF, with particular emphasis on large organizations (it's interesting how much credibility CF gains when people hear who's already using it). I know some of this stuff is already there, or at least it was at the Allaire site, but it isn't the easiest thing to find and it is scattered around. I think pulling it together in one place, making it very visible, and keeping it up to date would pay big dividends. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 16:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia.com Hi- ... snipped ... We're also taking the coming months to re-build the site from scratch on our next releases of ColdFusion, Flash and Dreamweaver. We'd love your feedback on features for the site. Thanks, __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia.com
Eliminate all of the competition? As much as I like CF, it's hardly *all* the competition. There's still Perl, J2EE, PHP, et al. cf_hypothesize scenario=MS buys MM Most of MM's products have competitors (ie, Adobe), and most of their products are not competing with MS (except for their IDE and application servers). I think it would be reasonable that the only way the acquisition would be approved is if MM spun off their application server and accompaning editor line. /cf_hypothesize - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:24 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia.com As I said, I doubt very much if they would get away with it, if it were true. reminds me of M$ and Quicken... it would eliminate all the competition! Also, I am sure MM could get backing from anywhere. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
Of course they aren't. However, I don't MS should be the standard that MM uses to measure themselves against. If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE platforms. Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial products - even though there are a number of open-source J2EE products that are fully compliant). I doubt that CF6 will be true J2EE, which is rather unfortunate. I've never gotten a straight answer as to how they can support things like CFObject yet still be compliant. Sun sued (and won) Microsoft for bastardizing the Java spec. Hmm. - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:09 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia.com On a side note - I've heard that MM will support .NET - how on earth can you be a true J2EE engine but still have support for the .NET CLR?) Oh and Microsoft are always true to specifications? :-) __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF and .NET (was Re: Macromedia.com)
That is possible. Of course, this is one of those what is .NET questions. Even Microsoft can't give you can answer that isn't confusing. .NET really is many things, though many (including myself) tend to use .NET as a noun to describe something discreet. To me, .NET means the CLR, though there's obviously some flaw in that logic. A true .NET service will simply be a SOAP method/property, which you can actually use now (and other proprietary services like Passport have COM interfaces). Though I wouldn't mind seeing a tag like this: cfdotnet type=method class=system.something.something input=#myCFvariable# output=dotNetResult cfoutput#dotNetResult#/cfoutput Hmm.. that got me thinking ... is the CLR available to CFX tags if the framework is installed on the server? Any hard-core CFX developers looked into this? - Original Message - From: Benjamin S. Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:14 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia.com If I recall, ColdFusion support for .Net did not include running on the CLR but support for things like .Net services. Perhaps interoperability would be a more accurate word to describe Macromedia's proposed support for .Net. Benjamin S. Rogers http://www.c4.net/ v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia.com MM could support .NET with a CFML language module that conforms to MS CLS - and make it commercially avaialable - right? -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia.com This definitely needs to be updated for a comparison with .NET (particularly ASP.NET). I think the comparisons that are out there compare CF 4.0 to ASP 2, which is horribly out of date (should compare CF 5.0 to ASP 3 and ASP.NET) Of course, I know this may go against the current bandwagon of saying we will support .NET that everyone and their dog seems to do nowadays - I think .NET is a solid platform, but I want to see true alternatives (On a side note - I've heard that MM will support .NET - how on earth can you be a true J2EE engine but still have support for the .NET CLR?) - Original Message - From: Earl, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:39 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia.com Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I never saw it hit the list . . . Jeremy, I'd like to see a really nice section at the re-built site that answers the CF vs. ASP and who's using CF type questions that we all get asked so often. When I get these kinds of questions, or when someone asks me to explain why I think we should go with CF instead of a competing product, I'd like to be able to go right to Macromedia and pull up a few pages with all the ammunition I need to support my recommendation. It should be front and center off the main page where I can't miss it. It should be built using the very tools I am recommending and it should showcase what can be done with those tools. In addition to the other stuff, I'd also like to see included in these pages a list of sites, companies and organizations that are using CF, with particular emphasis on large organizations (it's interesting how much credibility CF gains when people hear who's already using it). I know some of this stuff is already there, or at least it was at the Allaire site, but it isn't the easiest thing to find and it is scattered around. I think pulling it together in one place, making it very visible, and keeping it up to date would pay big dividends. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 16:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia.com Hi- ... snipped ... We're also taking the coming months to re-build the site from scratch on our next releases of ColdFusion, Flash and Dreamweaver. We'd love your feedback on features for the site. Thanks, _ _ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation . $99/Month . Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http
Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
I would agree, and would hate to see many of those features go away. However, many of the marketing claims I've heard is that you can put the generated class files on any supported J2EE engine and they'll run. In other words, they make it sound as if I can take my class files generated on a Win32 box and move them anywhere I want - even on a machine without CF. I simply cannot see how this is true. Maybe I'm a bit too caught up in the whole truth in advertising thing. :-) (Of course, they're not really advertising - more like a buzz-word-orama festival) - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: RE: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE platforms. Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial products - even though there are a number of open-source J2EE products that are fully compliant). I doubt that CF6 will be true J2EE, which is rather unfortunate. I think you're reading too much into this. I suspect that it will, in fact, be portable, and that will a little tweaking, you'll be able to get it running on Tomcat/Jakarta. However, there are enough implementation details, such as how installers work, which strike me as potentially complex. As for their support of commercial platforms first, that makes perfect sense to me - they can take advantage of IBM and BEA for setup support and development issues, rather than doing all the work themselves. I've never gotten a straight answer as to how they can support things like CFObject yet still be compliant. Sun sued (and won) Microsoft for bastardizing the Java spec. J2EE compliance doesn't mean that you can't implement additional features. Every commercial J2EE server does this - there's stuff in BEA WebLogic that facilitates Tuxedo connectivity, I think. J2EE compliance simply means that all of the stuff within the J2EE specification has been implemented. The comparison with Microsoft is flawed - Microsoft was sued by Sun over the fact that they built platform-specific features into the Java language itself - into the VM and compiler. There's nothing to stop a vendor from building functionality into a Java application beyond what Java itself provides - that's the purpose behind native interfaces like JNI. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia.com
Undoubtedly it will change. Will it go away? As long as it's profitable, I doubt it. However, I continually ask myself, if [insert technology here] disappeared tomorrow, could I feed my family? I may like one language or technology more than others, but I'll be damned if I'll bet my (and others that depend on me) well-being on some company's (who's goal is profit, not my well-being) product. - Original Message - From: Cantrell, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:15 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia.com Even if the rumor is true or not, we can't kid ourselves into thinking ColdFusion will be around for much longer in it's current state. It's governed by a company that's core product is a plugin to display moving vector graphics. Granted, they have other products, I personally use fireworks as an alternative to photoshop. That's all great, but we can't expect them to churn out and maintain a solid, server-side scripting engine, capable of competing with it's FREE alternatives - for much longer. It's simply out of their scope. At first, I want to say release it to the public, and charge for studio licenses, but then I look at the linux operating system, and that blows that whole idea out of the water (not trying to offend any hardcore linux advocates out there). There has to be some viable solution to preserve this tool without worrying about its parent's control over its existence. I can live with having to develop in PHP, ASP.NET, or even the dreaded J2EE (VM - blech), but I just don't want to. Cold Fusion makes it easy for me to hack something together in a day and please the boss or whoever it is I'm developing for, which is great - work smarter not harder right? It's solid (if you know all the little gotchas), and it's clean. There's just that one big, dark cloud hovering above us all that quietly chants I may not be here for you in a year, I may suddenly abandon you, your work will mean nothing then, you will have wasted 4 years living with me, I am the ghost of Macromedia Future. Am I just crazy, or is anyone else in the same boat as I? Adam. ps. I'm not trying to sound like one of those the end is near fearmongerers, I just want to see if I'm the only one that feels this way. -Original Message- From: Frank Priest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia.com MicroMedia Big rumors abound in Macromedia land... word is the company is in dire straights and that discussions between Macromedia and Microsoft are in the works. Acquisition? Possibly... probably just Flash, DreamWeaver, and UltraDev -- and in the meanwhile, kill off MS ASP competitor (not really) ColdFusion. Who knows about FreeHand and Director... Layoffs imminent. When: 1/30/2002 Company: Macromedia http://fuckedcompany.com/ __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
Then why is there an Apache module? - Original Message - From: Zac Belado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: RE: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial products - even though there are a number of open-source J2EE products that are fully compliant). Not interesting at all. MM supports commercial J2EE engines because those app servers have existing support plans in place. That is why Red Hat was the first Linux platform supported. MM doesn't want to, quite rightly, have to spend resources providing support for other products. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Protecting Content
CFHttp doesn't like anything other than ASCII content. Perhaps you can do a raw grab (probably require a COM object or CFX - there's bound to be something on the tag gallery) as opposed to cfhttp - then I think it'd be easy to use CFContent to deliver the goods. - Original Message - From: Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: Protecting Content Hello, We want to put a flash application on one server to deliver news items in a flash environment. I want to be able to grab that from an application on another server, but I don't want to divulge to the end user the source of the .swf file. So, I'd want to do something like grab the .swf via cfhttp and deliver it via cfcontent or something like that. Any suggestions. My efforts have failed so far. Dave === David R Hannum Ohio University Web Analyst/Programmer (740) 597-2524 [EMAIL PROTECTED] If your wife is having fun and you're not, you're still having a lot more fun than if you're having fun and she's not!' - Red Green __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
So was the RedHat support issue, so that means there's no evidence of MM only providing their products for supported platforms. Even at that, I don't think RedHat compatibility had anything to do with support - you only get support if you pay for it. I assume that the majority of RedHat installs out there aren't paid for. However, you're probably right - or perhaps they received some pressure from some of the J2EE vendors, who knew that CF6 would generate additional J2EE opportunities that they didn't want to lose to Jakarta and the like. Or most likely, they want to push JRun sales - if you can only run Neo on certain J2EE engines, you might as well go with JRun, right? (If memory serves me correct, can't CF6 run by itself? I hope so. Otherwise the cost of CF6 goes way up.) - Original Message - From: Zac Belado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) Then why is there an Apache module? User demand? Besides, that was produced by Allaire not Macromedia. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
If that's the case, so be it. However, I know some of the early stuff I heard (I distinctly remember this coming from Forta early last year at our CFUG meeting) is that it will be truly portable, as with most J2EE implementations. I find this rather disappointing, because other than some performance gains, it doesn't appear that CF will be changing much (so much for sales to those who have already made significant J2EE investments across the enterprise). Though from MM's point of view, it makes perfect sense (ensures licensing). - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) In other words, they make it sound as if I can take my class files generated on a Win32 box and move them anywhere I want - even on a machine without CF. If the CF code is compiled to Java byte-code, this would certainly be possible. Well, not really, I don't think. There will be dependencies in that bytecode, and those dependencies will point to a set of libraries, and those libraries will essentially be Neo. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Protecting Content
duh - I was merely thinking of output. I'll go sit in the stupid corner now. - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: RE: Protecting Content CFHttp doesn't like anything other than ASCII content. Perhaps you can do a raw grab (probably require a COM object or CFX - there's bound to be something on the tag gallery) as opposed to cfhttp - then I think it'd be easy to use CFContent to deliver the goods. I think you can use CFHTTP to retrieve any sort of file you like; you'll have to use the PATH and maybe the FILE attribute to save it to the filesystem, though, rather than referencing CFHTTP.FileContent. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
That's the idea - but the reality is that if you sell someone a liscense to your app server, you wouldn't want them to use your app server to develop an app and then distribute it to run on competitor's app servers. So I think the dream of cross-compatible applications is at odds with making a profit. Adding proprietary extensions - even though it's not exactly the same as what MS did, it seems philosophically the same to me. - Original Message - From: Cantrell, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: RE: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) You are correct in the eyes of SUN's marketing department. If the term, write once, run anywhere were to hold true, it wouldn't matter whether Joe the J2EE Guy wrote the code, or whether it was autmagically created by a set of NEO templates - it's all java right? And since it's java, technically you should be able to run it in any J2EE compliant environment. Do I have the wrong idea? Is the term, write once, run anywhere, still a valid adjective to associate with Java, or has that become the running joke in the community? I've of course heard the term write once, debug everywhere thrown around, so obviously some people have some issues with Sun's claims - maybe just incompetent programmers? The only reason I'm still afraid of Java is because I still associate it with the Applet hype from the mid 90's. It turned into a huge disappointment, and I feel like Sun simply tried to recoup some of their marketing dollars by turning it into a server-side scripting technology. Now EVERYONE is writing their enterprise-level systems on the same technology that was used to design those slow, crummy Water Reflection applets from the mid 90's. Is this a good thing? -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) I would agree, and would hate to see many of those features go away. However, many of the marketing claims I've heard is that you can put the generated class files on any supported J2EE engine and they'll run. In other words, they make it sound as if I can take my class files generated on a Win32 box and move them anywhere I want - even on a machine without CF. I simply cannot see how this is true. Maybe I'm a bit too caught up in the whole truth in advertising thing. :-) (Of course, they're not really advertising - more like a buzz-word-orama festival) - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: RE: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com) If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE platforms. Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial products - even though there are a number of open-source J2EE products that are fully compliant). I doubt that CF6 will be true J2EE, which is rather unfortunate. I think you're reading too much into this. I suspect that it will, in fact, be portable, and that will a little tweaking, you'll be able to get it running on Tomcat/Jakarta. However, there are enough implementation details, such as how installers work, which strike me as potentially complex. As for their support of commercial platforms first, that makes perfect sense to me - they can take advantage of IBM and BEA for setup support and development issues, rather than doing all the work themselves. I've never gotten a straight answer as to how they can support things like CFObject yet still be compliant. Sun sued (and won) Microsoft for bastardizing the Java spec. J2EE compliance doesn't mean that you can't implement additional features. Every commercial J2EE server does this - there's stuff in BEA WebLogic that facilitates Tuxedo connectivity, I think. J2EE compliance simply means that all of the stuff within the J2EE specification has been implemented. The comparison with Microsoft is flawed - Microsoft was sued by Sun over the fact that they built platform-specific features into the Java language itself - into the VM and compiler. There's nothing to stop a vendor from building functionality into a Java application beyond what Java itself provides - that's the purpose behind native interfaces like JNI. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO
Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1?
No - but you should be able to set up multiple mappings. However, you can run multiple instances of your OS using VMWare (if your OS is supported) - just run CF on each instance - Original Message - From: Bruce Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1? Can you install two instances of CF Server on the same UNIX machine? I want to move our Development environment from machine A to machine B which is also where our Staging/Testing environment lives so that I can install CF Server 5 on machine A. This means I need two instances on the same machine, one for each web site environment so that INCLUDE mappings work correctly for absolute paths as files are moved from environment to environment. If you know if this can be done and how and can help, I'd appreciate it! - Bruce Holm - Web Programmer Lattice Semiconductor Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia.com
Look at the source - Yahoo is merely referencing FC, which deals in rumors - if the rumor is a year old, then that's what Yahoo is indirectly referencing - sure would be a shame if a site that ppl consider remotely credible would verify information - news in Internet time is probably the death of journalistic integrity - Original Message - From: Tom Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: RE: Macromedia.com This is not a one year old rumor. It was posted today at http://finance.yahoo.com/mp#macr and quite a few shares were BOUGHT in speculation of the MS involvement. Tom At 05:12 PM 1/30/02, you wrote: Tom, take a look at Matt Brown's previous response to this (below). Christine -Original Message- From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia.com Doubt its true, if you look at the comments on fuckedcompany on the story some of them refer to a rumour in a yahoo newsgroup. Probably someone trying to influence share prices First. Great that you posted here. When you hear things like that you deserve to get some answer from MM. Thank you. This is an old rumor. A month old at least. I heard it before we announced our earnings when our stock spiked pretty well. I think that this hypothesis, that it was an attempt at manipulation, is correct. Macromedia, like all web based companies and software companies is facing challenges in this market. On the other hand, we have had our layoffs already. We have superior products in the pipeline. The overall economy is looking quite a bit better. I personally, after 6 years at MM, feel that we are more focused and more productive and more excited than we ever have been. I am working on projects that are going to make you all very happy over time and I think that is the future of MM, not as a subsidiary of MS. Macromedia is very well positioned for the time being. While I have no insight into the sales figures or the business. I am very confident that CF is doing well and that it will continue to do so for some time. _ Matt Brown Community Manager Macromedia (650) 481-4525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF and Webserver (OT)
You'll need to have DNS entries set up for it, and then setup a new website in IIS - if it's sharing IP addresses, assign it a customer header (where you see the ip address. click Advanced) that points to xxx.www.somedomain.tld - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: CF and Webserver (OT) Hi All, I am new to setting up new websites in IIS (on a win2k server) and was wondering if I could get some help with the following. I have a server that is on our network that is deignated as web9.alfred.edu. Now web9 is a test server and I want to add another website, so that the url reads yyy.web9.alfred.edu ... is this possible? Right now the only website defined is the default. This machine is running win2k server, CF 5 Server, and SQL server it is one of our new test servers. Any advice? If this doesnt belong on the list, please email me off list with any help. Much appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1?
VMWare.com - allows you to run multiple OS's on the same machine concurrently But it sounds like an architecture issue - you didn't use hard-code absolute paths, did you? naughty, naughty :-) You should be able to run multiple virtual web servers though - like someserver1.something.tld is mapped to one directory (say, /usr/html/someserver1) and someserver2.something.tld is mapped to a different directory (/usr/html/someserver2) - look at your web server docs Or set up a CF mapping (look in CF administrator) - Original Message - From: Bruce Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1? What is VMWare? Using multiple mappings doesn't work. There can be only one web root /. This means the other web server has to change paths for every INCLUDE. Bruce - Original Message - From: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1? No - but you should be able to set up multiple mappings. However, you can run multiple instances of your OS using VMWare (if your OS is supported) - just run CF on each instance __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT (was: Macromedia.com)
did you mean to post this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?since you obviously only want dave to respond :-) - Original Message - From: Julia Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: RE: OT (was: Macromedia.com) Hi Dave... I am trying to get an email to work only showing checkbox output from a form...somehow it doesn't work or I don't get the email when I add the code for the checkboxes...could you tell me how to do this in cfmail? It's for the Reich for Governor campaign... Please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julia Computer Consulting CFINSERT DATASOURCE=jgrn123 TABLENAME=Email5 html head titleThank you for volunteering with the Reich Campaign! /title/head body h2Thank you for volunteering with us!/h2br h2The results of your form are as follows:/h2 cfoutput font size=+1 Full Name: #txtFirstName# #txtLastName#br Address:br #txtAddress1#br #txtAddress2#br #txtCity# #txtState# #txtZip#br brPhone Number: #txtPhone# brEmail: #txtEmail# brComments: #txtComments# brbr Additional Information:br On Email List? #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_E), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brWould like to Contribute Now: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_M), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brYour Vote for Reich?: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_V), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brWould like to Contribute Sometime: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_T), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brReception or House Party: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_HP), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brArrange to Attend or Speak at an Event: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_S), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brA Business that can offer resources?: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_CORP), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brAdditional Information for Volunteering:br brPolitical Organizing?: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_PolOrg), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brCampus Organizing?: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Student), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brExpertise in Specific Issues?: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Issues), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brComputer Expertise?: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Technology), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brGeneral Communications, Media: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_PR), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brFundraising, Development: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_FR), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# brScheduling: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Sched), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# /cfoutput CFMAIL TO= #Form.txtEmail# FROM= [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUBJECT= Thank you for choosing Bob Reich for Governor! Thank you so much for supporting Bob Reich's campaign for Governor. Email Julia Green at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you wish to be taken off our list at any time. If you are a volunteer, our headquarters is located at 625 Mount Auburn Street, near the Star Market in Cambridge. We are open from 9 am to 9 pm Monday through Saturday, and 11 am to 6 pm on Sundays. We are a bus ride away from Harvard Square and parking is readily available in the back of the building. If you are on our email list, we will inform you regularly of campaign updates. Bob Reich for the future of Massachusetts! Here are the results of your form... We look forward to seeing you at our side in an exciting political season. Bob Reich for Governor /CFMAIL /body /html --- Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're Right! After 56 posts regarding this topic in the last 3 days, let's just move it to a different board so fewer people are exposed to it. That should help - but first Gee, I hadn't noticed that number of posts over that number of days, myself. I thought this thread started today. As for how many people are exposed to it, I could give a rat's ass. It's not a virus. However, what I do care about, at least to some degree, is that it be put in its proper place. I tend to limit my posts to technical issues on this list - please don't bother pointing out exceptions, because they ARE exceptions - because this isn't the place for non-technical posts. For all I know, there may be more people subscribed to cf-community - but I'm not one of them, because I'm not interested in discussing non-technical issues enough to bother. 11:10AM Macromedia layoff/takeover rumors (MACR) 17.80 -0.20: Website f@#!ckedcompany.com, known best for its accurate layoff rumors, reports today that layoffs are imminent at MACR, but also notes unsubstantiated rumors that the company is in discussions with Microsoft (MSFT), hinting at a sale of all or part of the company. What Could This Mean??? It Could Mean That It's An Accurate Rumor. Or, It Could Mean That It's An Inaccurate Rumor. Funny Thing Is, This Rumor Has Been Posted In The Past, Almost Verbatim - I Remember When MS First Released ASP, And Everyone Thought That CF Was Toast. And Yet, Here I Am Writing CF Instead. Now, If I Have To, I Can Switch To .NET Or J2EE, But While CF Is Here, I'll Take Advantage Of It. That's
Re: OT/bandwidth waste (was:Macromedia.com)
Cool! The thread branches yet again! I wonder what the record is? - Original Message - From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Re: OT/bandwidth waste (was:Macromedia.com) Is CF Dead, no, but it is dying. Please explain this statement Please don't. We waste enough bandwidth with these inane CF is dead Macromedia is dead posts. Don't want to add to the flying tangents, but IMHO the amount of bandwidth wasted all the time on this list from people not editing out the last X included posts in their replies puts every other waste in the shade. It's a great list, but when I first peeked in, I thought I'd sample the digest, and left very quickly cos it was so hard to scan for 'original' posts. Took a while to come back to see if it was worth it. It was, but more editing please! :) - Gyrus - [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: http://www.tengai.co.uk play: http://www.norlonto.net - PGP key available __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees
Fair can only be defined by your experience level, the quality of your work, and costs of living. When I was in college, I worked for minimum wage ($5.25 an hour at that point, I believe). That's how it is in college - you work dirt cheap. Typically wages are determined by the higher-ups in the school (Dean level or higher). I seriously doubt they'll be swayed by some mailing list that the public can contribute to. If it weren't for poor college students, would they bring in someone at full price? I doubt it. Also, suck it up and ignore the $$ factor: you're in college, and unless you had significant experience before school, the college job is your best shot at getting experience. You need the experience far more than you need the $$$; consider that unless things improve dramatically, when you graduate, you'll be competing with developers with years of *real-world* experience. Considering the state of the economy, I know many developers who'd be happy to make what you're making - $6/hour beats being unemployed. I would suggest that we all take a look at the CF-Talk guidelines (http://www.houseoffusion.com/hof/lists/faq.htm). Keep in mind that discussion of prices among peers in a public forum constitutes price fixing - this places the operators of this list (Dinowitz and company) at risk. - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:11 AM Subject: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees Hello Everyone, Can I get everyones opinion on something here... Here at the University, student workers make no more than $6.00/hour regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for someone who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a daily basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who trains staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I work about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load semester and am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers to back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have. Thanks, Mike PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees
Yeah, but it's pretty hard to do that and maintain an 18 hour load in school (if you were lucky enough to find a place that would hire a full-time college student and pay them market) Also, there's something to be said for sticking it out - it's by no means a rule, but some companies don't like job hoppers (even though the situation was well justified - some hiring manager are too dense to see between the lines of your resume) - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees Yes, it's easy to quit and get a job that pays at the very least 3 times as much. You are worth what you are paid. You being paid $6/hr tells future employers that you are inexperienced, desperate, or easily taken advantage of. On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote: Id rather attempt to get a new pay rate than to just quit..its easy to qu it, its not as easy to get what you believe in... it takes work, that is why I polled the list for thoughts on rates. - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees If you don't like it quit. Why do you have to work at the university? On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote: Hello Everyone, Can I get everyones opinion on something here... Here at the University, student workers make no more than $6.00/hour regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for some one who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a da ily basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who trains staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I work about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load semester a nd am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers to back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have. Thanks, Mike PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees
I'd agree. It sounds like a decent gig for college (I would have loved this when I was in school, far more than working for a record store or any other typical college job). However, you might want to look to some other resources - economics for a student working for the college are significantly different than a seasoned developer working in the private sector. I think the closest match would be the non-profit market sector. - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees Id rather attempt to get a new pay rate than to just quit..its easy to quit, its not as easy to get what you believe in... it takes work, that is why I polled the list for thoughts on rates. - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees If you don't like it quit. Why do you have to work at the university? On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote: Hello Everyone, Can I get everyones opinion on something here... Here at the University, student workers make no more than $6.00/hour regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for someone who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a daily basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who trains staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I work about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load semester and am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers to back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have. Thanks, Mike PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees
Are you willing to leave school to do that? Plus, internships usually come out of special budgets. My experience has shown that internships are more like contract positions than full-time in terms of rate. Not to mention the fact that internships are for college students only - otherwise, you're competing with the world (and right now, I know alot of top-notch programmers out of work) - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees good point... but this job is a great reference for me.. in your opinion, how does that play in? I have had 2 great intenrships..one in DC and one in NYC that both paid $25/hr. Thsoe we each summer jobs, this webteam job has been mine for 4 years..what if I lose the reference? Im new to the finding a full time job game :-) so any advice is greatly appreciated. - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees Yes, it's easy to quit and get a job that pays at the very least 3 times as much. You are worth what you are paid. You being paid $6/hr tells future employers that you are inexperienced, desperate, or easily taken advantage of. On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote: Id rather attempt to get a new pay rate than to just quit..its easy to qu it, its not as easy to get what you believe in... it takes work, that is why I polled the list for thoughts on rates. - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees If you don't like it quit. Why do you have to work at the university? On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote: Hello Everyone, Can I get everyones opinion on something here... Here at the University, student workers make no more than $6.00/hour regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for some one who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a da ily basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who trains staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I work about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load semester a nd am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers to back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have. Thanks, Mike PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees
I agree - but what a seasoned, full-time (40 hours if you're lucky, probably more) developer is worth is not the same as what a college student taking an 18 hour semester load is worth - totally different set of dynamics - Original Message - From: Kreig Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees There's no point in getting paid less than you're worth. References are anyone you know who knows your work/you've worked with in a professional setting. Don't get hung up on them, especially for $6/hr. For that money, you could work in a record store and have a helluva lot more fun! - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] good point... but this job is a great reference for me.. in your opinion, how does that play in? I have had 2 great intenrships..one in DC and one in NYC that both paid $25/hr. Thsoe we each summer jobs, this webteam job has been mine for 4 years..what if I lose the reference? Im new to the finding a full time job game :-) so any advice is greatly appreciated. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe
I've used PVCS Version Manager (similar to VSS) with success in the past. If you integrate it into Studio, it works pretty well. - Original Message - From: Jaye Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe Hope this is not too OT. Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source Safe for their code (or similar product)? Did you find it useful? // Jaye Morris, Multimedia Designer __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Final Check through
Well, there's entire books dedicated to web security, a few things Paul didn't mention: 1) verify data type - if users are entering any freetext, make sure it's valid (ie, isNumeric, is gt 0, etc) 2) client assumptions - make sure you aren't assuming things like JS or Cookies, or if so, make sure you have the logic (programmatic or business) to handle this - the main area I see this is not doing server-side validation because it is assumed the client-side (JS) validation will catch invalid entries 3) third-party integration - mainly in connecting to someone else over the Internet (cf_ups, credit card processing) - how will your application behave if someone else is down, etc? - Original Message - From: Michael Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:21 PM Subject: Final Check through I know this may not be very good, but I want to make sure I do this right. I am just about to go live with a site with the whole shopping cart thing, Its all ready but it being my first cart I was wondering if anyone had any final checks just to make sure...like security and dumb users. I am pretty sure I have gone over everything and had many people test it, It would just be nice to lean on everyone and all your experience. thanks mike __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT - User Friendly?
Well, that's not an uncommon scenario. Their idea will probably be for you to design it, with unlimited revisions until they think it's friendly enough (imagine if houses were built like this: the window looks ok there, but can you move it over there? oh, and this is covered by what I originally paid - because the blueprint wasn't precise, it just said make it pretty) This is why I'm a big fan of a multi-tiered project plan: 1) wireframe the app, agree on a set of functions 2) basic design 3) prototype the app, with all UI elements, but no tie-in the database - some rough business logic in place, but not complete 4) complete the business logic and data tier 5) final signoff and implementation Each one is a stage, and is considered a separate contract. They're sequential, so the client must sign off on one before moving to the next. I find this very useful in many ways, particulary in managing client expectations, and for managing costs/timelines. Of course, it doesn't eliminate the problem of scope creep - but allows you to isolate it to make it more manageable (in my experience) Undeniably, the problem with blueprints in web development is that if we came up with a true blueprint, it'd be the final product. As such, we have to work our contracts with some leeway built in (ie, 25 to do this, but an additional 10 hours tacked on for review and revision). Plus, we have to better educate or clients - front end design isn't an exact science, but rather an approximate art, even though clients want a concrete price. - Original Message - From: Mary Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: OT - User Friendly? Has anyone had to come up with contract language that helps nail down the elusive term 'user friendly' in a fixed priced contract? It is a point being negotiated at this time with a client. The quote has to be fixed cost. The quote has to be done fast. The client uses the term a lot in thier deliverable specifications. We are saying we would like to take the term out because it is too vague. They are asking us what the 'industry standard' wording for 'user friendly' is. I say we need more design specifications. Sound familiar? Any thoughts and/or examples of language would be greatly appreciated. TIA, :)mary __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...
I thought Spectra was Ray's baby? - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... AFAIK, the Old Allaire site used Spectra to build its own site - well a version of it. I think this was the original version of Spectra developed and coded by Jeremy himself. Neil __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: UltraDev
Start - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs - Macromedia Ultradev? j/k, couldn't resist I usually get a stiff drink, then start a random series of CFOUTPUT's/CFABORT in UD's code view. Things start going blurry, then I realize I'm not really intoxicated, it's just a series of obscure cfscript and MM_ variables. - Original Message - From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: RE: UltraDev I'd be curious to know how you'all debug. I've tried the de-bugger, but I always come back to hand coding debug code and testing in a browser when I'm doing something really complex. Anyone? mark -Original Message- From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: UltraDev table tr tdyep, i'm with ya on that./td /tr /table _ _ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...
On one note, I'd say that we should give Macromedia a break. I know that they have had some website and support issues, but they have delivered a solid release of both Server and Studio. Which is all you can really expect, cuz for most of us, that's all we're really paying for. I'm sure if you're not happy with how things are run, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to sell you the division that produces ColdFusion. However, as painful as a migration may be, how the hell do you turn off production servers like that? I'll echo the thoughts about staging servers - if you know what you're doing, once everything's good, you should be able to throw the switch (in theory) with little to no downtime. Maybe they're using Sitespring to manage the conversion :P -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... I try to go to the developer's download section and get this lovely message: Due to scheduled maintenance, certain areas of our website are unavailable at this time. These areas include Macromedia Membership, Free Trial Downloads, the Macromedia Store, the Edge newsletter, the Showcase, Events, the Macromedia Flash, Dreamweaver, and UltraDev Exchanges, the Developers Exchange and Forums. You can use NNTP newsgroups instead of Forums until our maintenance is complete. We apologize for the inconvenience and will be restoring service as soon as possible. If you've already made a download purchase, please return after 6 pm PST on Sunday 1/27/02 to download your products. Meanwhile, you can continue to browse the rest of our site. You can also read about other ways to purchase Macromedia products or contact our Customer Service Center. Return to Macromedia home page. OFFLINE FOR 2-3 DAYS? what in the world are these folks thinking? Bring the old site back please -paris __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Getting ASP Info into CF
Even on the same box, CF can't talk to ASP's sessions. Pass the session vars from ASP to CF - WDDX would be nice, but you can do that conversion on the CF side if you pass it as a list or whatever. Then in CF, parse the session var back into a CF session. Passing back to ASP is easier - just do a POST. -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Getting ASP Info into CF Question, I have been tasked to get login information from an ASP page into a CF application, and I am not sure how to go about this. I know that I can get CF, by way of a com object, to talk to an ASP session, but this is not a viable solution. Here is the scenario: User logs into a site hosting an ASP login page, and they go about doing whatever it is they want to do. At some point, they will click on a link that brings in a CF application within an iframe. What I want is to be able to capture that information into the CF application, check it against the database that I have, and if they pass then they go on in. Otherwise, they are required to re-authenticate. Also, at some point, they may have to pass some CF information into an ASP application. The problem is that these two applications are being hosted at two separate companies, so the ASP app server and the CF app server are in two separate locations. Is this doable? Thanks, _ Bruce Sorge __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia.com
Haha - isn't it their ColdFusion as well? -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 3:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia.com Thanks Jeremy.. We all understand providers evaporating :) Be sure to have Macromedia keep their Flash away from the Cold Fusion section... and writing the Cold Fusion support site in something other than Cold Fusion defeats people's faith on the product.. so make it happen with the product... We'll forgive the outage time... (given you are sure to address the above 2 issues)... -paris -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 16:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia.com Hi- I saw the post about a person having problems downloading something on the site. We have a planned outage this and next weekends in order to switch offsite hosting providers -- our current provider went out of business. We're also taking the coming months to re-build the site from scratch on our next releases of ColdFusion, Flash and Dreamweaver. We'd love your feedback on features for the site. Thanks, Jeremy __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...
Haha - very true. So what? We pay so much for the developer's exchange, we shouldn't be concerned with their implementation issues :0) -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... Bill Davidson wrote: They've been doing this long before Allaire was bought by Macromedia. I never understood it. A company of that size has got to have a back up server that they can stick up while they do their routine maintenance. I am not sure if switching infrastructures qualifies as routine maintenance. Jochem __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...
Indeed. The community drives technology: I've never seen MSDN or SourceForge down for long, if at all. Of course, when it was Allaire's community, they didn't exactly provide a quality experience. I can't remember the number of times I'd seen their site down due to some first-year CF error, or it was so slow that I just gave up and wrote the code myself. And there's no need to begin discussing the quality of forums.allaire.com . Of course, I don't necessarily agree with your analogies - the systems you mentioned were core to the operation, not systems in support. I do get your point though. However, if the success of ColdFusion (or any other technology) is driven or dependent upon a single website or resources, then it's time for me to crack open some books and start recommending alternatives to my clients. I think Macromedia will do a good job - better than Allaire would have done in the long run (I think they were starting to crumble under their own weight) -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... developer's exchange is a key part of the community.. if it were to go way-side due to a bad implementation or frustration, it certainly would decrease core community... of course, we have this list as well but the point in part is, support cost and the cost to maintain a community is big, but build loyalty, return sales, etc... USAIR doesn't cancel all flights to do upgrades to its fleet.. nor does the FDIC close its digital systems... there always must be contingency plans.. downtime minimized... no matter what size you are... migration is no exception... I don't envy the job... mergers and acquisitions can lead to goofy leadership wars... I only hope that Macromedia doesn't fumble the ball on the Allaire products... and the community... -paris -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 19:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... Haha - very true. So what? We pay so much for the developer's exchange, we shouldn't be concerned with their implementation issues :0) -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... Bill Davidson wrote: They've been doing this long before Allaire was bought by Macromedia. I never understood it. A company of that size has got to have a back up server that they can stick up while they do their routine maintenance. I am not sure if switching infrastructures qualifies as routine maintenance. Jochem __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: UltraDev
LOL I've never had any problems using multiple WYSIWYG's on one computer - maybe one day Studio will uninstall all of them except for UD when I'm sleeping but I doubt it. By the way, you can control what applications open what files. It's an operating system feature. Actually, Macromedia determined that they have to remove one click convenience because Amazon.com was going to sue them for copyright infringement. - Original Message - From: Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: RE: UltraDev Macromedia have diminished your right to use a third party WYSIWYG HTML editor with ColdFusion Studio 5. Thay have attempted to FORCE you to not only purchase Studio 5 but also Ultradev 4.0.x. The latter product is severely lacking in it's current form. Most CF developers could not care less about visual development. Ultradev asssists in some ways but generally hinders in others. Use it for a while, especially in ColdFusion 'code complex' situations. Ultradev is a good start but way off what serious developers need. Can someone tell me what UltraDev adds to the Cold Fusion Studio? I looked at the product description and could not really get what I would have if I had CF Sudio 5 Ultradev versus CF Studio 5. I am contemplating whether it is worth the money to renew my alliance. Save your money and stick with CF 4.5.2 if you value the one-click method of opening your current template into your preferred editor. CFS 5 removes the choice - the same is said with the CSS editor - TopStyle. Save your money = stick with CF Studio 4.5 (SP) until MM pull there finger out. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT-FONT Problem
It's Marlett or something like that. - Original Message - From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: OT-FONT Problem --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made it a long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where I came up with the darned font! Thanks. www.zonedogg.com Greg - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii PAnyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made it a long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where I came up with the darned font! Thanks./P PA href=http://www.zonedogg.com;www.zonedogg.com/A/P PGreg/PBRBRpbrhr size=1bDo You Yahoo!?/bbr a href=http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com;Yahoo! Auctions/a Great stuff seeking new owners! a href=http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com;Bid now!/a --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516-- FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT-FONT Problem
never mind - it's not marlett - but it starts with an M, i'm pretty sure :-) - Original Message - From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: OT-FONT Problem --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made it a long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where I came up with the darned font! Thanks. www.zonedogg.com Greg - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii PAnyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made it a long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where I came up with the darned font! Thanks./P PA href=http://www.zonedogg.com;www.zonedogg.com/A/P PGreg/PBRBRpbrhr size=1bDo You Yahoo!?/bbr a href=http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com;Yahoo! Auctions/a Great stuff seeking new owners! a href=http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com;Bid now!/a --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516-- FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: RE: Using CFmail and loops
Actually, it might be a bit cleaner to use the ListQualify function instead of Replace: listQualify(form.propertyType,') - Original Message - From: C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: RE: RE: Using CFmail and loops Stephen, You should be able to re-work your query to use the in function (where PropertyType IN ('#replace(form.propertytype, ,, ',', ALL)#'). Also, you might try building a pseudo grouping into your loop inside the cfmail and take out the query parameter of the cfmail tag assuming that you only want one email generated per serarch, right? Hatton cfloop index=PType list=#FORM.PropertyType# delimiters=, cfquery name=SearchProperties datasource=CMSX SELECT PropertyID, FullJobName, PropertyType, Tenure FROM Properties WHERE PropertyType = '#FORM.PropertyType#' cfif IsDefined(FORM.PropertyInfo) cfif FORM.PropertyInfo NEQ Freehold,Leasehold AND Tenure = '#FORM.PropertyInfo#' /cfif /cfif AND OnPrintedList = 1 ORDER BY PropertyType, FullJobName, Tenure /cfquery cfmail query=SearchProperties to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] server=mail.company.com port=25 timeout=20 type=HTML cfloop query=SearchProperties cfoutput p table trtd#SearchProperties.FullJobName#/td/tr trtd#SearchProperties.PropertyType#/td/tr trtd#SearchProperties.Tenure#/td/tr /table /p hr /cfoutput /cfloop /cfmail /cfloop Hope this helps, Cheers Stephen __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFPOP attachments
You'll need to rename the files in one loop, and then link to the newly named files in a separate loop. (You could do them both, but it seems cleaner to do it the other way) I'd keep the unique file names. - Original Message - From: W Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: CFPOP attachments Say I've got a CFpop query as follows. I was using some code for looping through multiple-attachments from cfcomet.com (http://www.cfcomet.com/cfcomet/other/index.cfm?ArticleID=7AD3EF1A-C5E5-4FE9 -8F7C88F84D5C822D). What I need to do is prepend the sender's email address to the attachment-filename when it's stored to the web-server. At the moment, I'm using the GENERATEUNIQUEFILENAMES=Yes attrib in the query. The CFComet code I'm using is as follows: CFSET Count = ListLen(newspool.attachments, #CHR(9)#) CFIF Len(newspool.attachments) This message contains #Count# attachmentCFIF Count NEQ 1s/CFIF:P CFLOOP FROM=1 TO=#ListLen(newspool.Attachments, chr(9))# INDEX=i !--- A HREF=index.cfm?fuseaction=getMailFile file=#URLEncodedFormat(GetFileFromPath(ListGetAt(newspool.attachmentfiles, i, chr(9# name=#URLEncodedFormat(ListGetAt(newspool.attachments, i, chr(9)))# #ListGetAt(newspool.attachments, i, chr(9))# /ABR --- /CFLOOP /CFIF Should I rename the files in the above cfloop using #i# for the filename/path in cffile - and if so, do I keep the generateuniquefilenames attrib Yes? Hope some of that makes sense! Cheers Will __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: UltraDev
Renew your alliance? I was under the impression that Macromedia wasn't going to include developer software in the Alliance/partner programs. - Original Message - From: Chris Combs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: UltraDev Can someone tell me what UltraDev adds to the Cold Fusion Studio? I looked at the product description and could not really get what I would have if I had CF Sudio 5 Ultradev versus CF Studio 5. I am contemplating whether it is worth the money to renew my alliance. Chris Combs New Creation Consulting __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Good WHOIS
Look at Lewis Seller's cfx - don't waste your time with those stupid ones that just do a CFHTTP to NetSol's site. Keep in mind that many registrars don't report the dates and whatnot - the only thing you can be guaranteed is the domain name, the name of the registrant, and the DNS servers. - Original Message - From: nagraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Good WHOIS Hi Neil, can you give the URL for whois Engine.I am in need of it Regards Nagaraj - Original Message - From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Good WHOIS I am trying a really good CF based Whois for domain names? I tried ODSWHOIS and its nice but it doesn't show record created and expiration dates. Anyone know of one that does? Thanks, Neil __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Macromedia's new site design
You can run something like VMWare, running multiple versions of Windows/Linux concurrently. Also, there's a web-based service that gives you screenshots of your site in different browsers at http://www.netmechanic.com/browser-index.htm Of course, since you're a single PC user, does that mean you don't test Linux or Mac? Bad idea - there's a lot of issues there. Pick up some commodity hardware off of eBay - an old 166 with 16mb of RAM will run Linux ok, and you can find an old iMac for under $300. - Original Message - From: Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:07 AM Subject: RE: OT: Macromedia's new site design What I hate - but we (single PC) developers would know this - is the fact that it is very difficult to run more than one version of a browser (IE, NS) and can this really complicate things. If you keep your core HTML as compliant it can assist greatly but often browser issues can be difficult to track down and nail. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer 2/13 Murrung Crescent Ngunnawal ACT 2913 AUSTRALIA Ph: (02) 6255 5593 Mob: 0401 973 415 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Help with CFGRID
CFGrid has nothing to do with what Java run-time you have installed on the server. It is a Java applet, rendered in the browser, not the server, so the problem lies in the Java environment on the end-user's machine. - Original Message - From: Waldemiro Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Help with CFGRID I´m using IE6, CF5, W2K and I have already installed the J2RE 1.30 on my server and CFGRID still not working. After loading my page that contains CFGRID, on the browser´s status bar there´s this message: Start: applet not initialized and the text inside the Java Console is: - -- Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.3.0_01 Using JRE version 1.3.0_01 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\WINDOWS Proxy Configuration: Manual Configuration Proxy: FW02:8080 Proxy Overrides: local c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage q: hide console s: dump system properties t: dump thread list x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to n java.lang.NullPointerException at allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.adjustColumnWidths(CFGridApplet.java:307) at allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.init(CFGridApplet.java:169) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) - -- Can anyone help me on this issue? Thanks. Waldemiro Junior __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Good WHOIS
Yep, I'm glad to see the steps taken to fight domain name speculation. Of course, that whole market has gone bust - the Internet economy is in bad shape, so a good domain doesn't guarantee anything, and quality indexes like Google mean you don't need to have a good name to find what you're looking for. - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: Re: Good WHOIS I use Lewis' nicname cfx as well. Until ICANN requires all registrars to return the exact same information, either using a common format or using XML, what you're going to get back is just a large block of text, filled with names, addresses, disclaimers, etc. There are now dozens of registries, each with its own way of formatting the output. There's actually some benefit to the anarchy, though. It makes it much tougher for people to harvest the WHOIS database. Make sure you point the tag at a whois server that will systematically query the registries to find the information, sometimes called a WHOIS Proxy. I've been using whois.geektools.com for years. They'll limit the number of daily queries that you can do (once again, to prevent abuse), but if you ask them politely they may lift the restriction for the IP address of your server. Jim - Original Message - From: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: Re: Good WHOIS Look at Lewis Seller's cfx - don't waste your time with those stupid ones that just do a CFHTTP to NetSol's site. Keep in mind that many registrars don't report the dates and whatnot - the only thing you can be guaranteed is the domain name, the name of the registrant, and the DNS servers. - Original Message - From: nagraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Good WHOIS Hi Neil, can you give the URL for whois Engine.I am in need of it Regards Nagaraj - Original Message - From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Good WHOIS I am trying a really good CF based Whois for domain names? I tried ODSWHOIS and its nice but it doesn't show record created and expiration dates. Anyone know of one that does? Thanks, Neil __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: changing CFID/CFTOKEN
No way. CFID/CFTOKEN is how CF manages sessions. You can change your setup to use GUID's, which will provide an added layer of obscurity to the CFID/CFTOKEN. Or you could roll your own session state, but this introduces it's own complexities. - Original Message - From: Herbener, Martin - School Information Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: changing CFID/CFTOKEN I'm using ColdFusion client variables and would like to have the CFID/CFTOKEN values change periodically during a user session in order to reduce the chances that, if they were intercepted, they could be used to impersonate a user. Has anyone figured out a way to do that? thanks Martin Herbener __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Help with CFGRID
Doesn't you mean that you only have to have the .cab file, not the Java runtime? Or does ColdFusion generate the .cab file on the fly? Also, why does CF break when the user has a newer version of the JRE? That's just plain stupid. If I was a dial up user, and I knew I had a newer version of X software than some site says I need, but they want me to download a 5mb file, I'll be clicking the back button as I mutter You can kiss my... - Original Message - From: Chris Wigginton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: RE: Help with CFGRID The JRE version does come in to play on the user's browser using the NetScape Browser when version 5 of CF is used. To be more precise, I've included the various outputs of CF 4.5 and CF 5 for both IE and Netscape. As you can see, there are some differences 1) different classes are used between 4.5 and 5 2) CF 5 does not use APPLET tags, instead it will use iether an EMBED or an OBJECT, depending on which browser is used. 3) When using the CF 5 version on Netscape, the JRE version is indicated. This causes problems when the user's JRE plugin is different from the requested version that is generated by the CFFORM java ui elements. The user is requested to install the correct version. The version specified by CF 5 is 1.3.0_01 Netscapes current version is 1.3.0_02 (the plugin download size is 5320K for windows) ColdFusion 4.5 output = ColdFusion 4.5 ie output of applet header for Internet Explorer -- APPLET NAME=news_grid CODE=allaire.controls.cfGridFormApplet CODEBASE=/CFIDE/classes/cf-j2re-win.cab HEIGHT=170 WIDTH=640 ALIGN=LEFT VSPACE=6 HSPACE=10 ColdFusion 4.5 NETSCAPE output of applet header -- APPLET NAME=news_grid CODE=allaire.controls.cfGridFormApplet CODEBASE=/CFIDE/classes/ HEIGHT=170 WIDTH=640 ALIGN=LEFT VSPACE=6 HSPACE=10 === ColdFusion 5.0 output ColdFusion 5.0 ie output of using OBJECT for Internet Explorer -- OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93 CODEBASE=/CFIDE/classes/cf-j2re-win.cab STANDBY=First use of this control. Configuring browser. Please wait... WIDTH=640 HEIGHT=170 ALIGN=LEFT VSPACE=6 PARAM NAME=CODE VALUE=allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.class PARAM NAME=ARCHIVE VALUE=/CFIDE/classes/CFJava2.jar ColdFusion 5.0 NETSCAPE output using EMBED -- EMBED TYPE=application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.3.0_01 PLUGINSPAGE=http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/index.html; CODE=allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.class ARCHIVE=/CFIDE/classes/CFJava2.jar -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Help with CFGRID CFGrid has nothing to do with what Java run-time you have installed on the server. It is a Java applet, rendered in the browser, not the server, so the problem lies in the Java environment on the end-user's machine. - Original Message - From: Waldemiro Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Help with CFGRID I´m using IE6, CF5, W2K and I have already installed the J2RE 1.30 on my server and CFGRID still not working. After loading my page that contains CFGRID, on the browser´s status bar there´s this message: Start: applet not initialized and the text inside the Java Console is: - -- Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.3.0_01 Using JRE version 1.3.0_01 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\WINDOWS Proxy Configuration: Manual Configuration Proxy: FW02:8080 Proxy Overrides: local c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage q: hide console s: dump system properties t: dump thread list x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to n java.lang.NullPointerException at allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.adjustColumnWidths(CFGridApplet.java:307) at allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.init(CFGridApplet.java:169) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source
Re: SQL ?
Perhaps, but as you stated, you are asking very basic SQL questions. You're dealing with a classic one-to-many relationship, and I'm not sure that you understand the concepts of primary and foreign keys. These are fundamentals of working with any language that communicates with a relational database. With a subject line of SQL, I assumed that you either had a question about your query, or your database design. However, if it appears that your problem has nothing to do with either, and it is simply a matter of parsing the results of your form submission to build a basic INSERT query. The answer to your real question (disregarding the subject): On your final page (where clips are submitted), I'm assuming that you've passed the title id. Are you passing one, or multiple titles? If passing just one, make it a hidden form field, and name all clip fields the same. In ColdFusion, when you have form fields with the same name, it is seen as a comma-delimited list. So, you loop over the list: cfloop index=i list=#form.clip# cfquery insert into clips (clip_title,title_id) values ('#i#',#form.title_id#) /cfquery /cfloop Now, if you are submitting multiple titles/clips, I would recommend having the following form fields: title_id - this will be a comma delimited list clip_X - X represents a title id You will then loop over your list of title id's, and then have a nested loop where you determine the field name of your clips using Evaluate(), and insert as before: cfloop index=i list=#form.title_id# cfloop index=j list=#evaluate(form.clip_#i#)# cfquery insert into clips (clip_title,title_id) values ('#j#',#i#) /cfquery /cfloop /cfloop I do understand that looping can be a difficult concept for beginners with little programming experience to grasp, but give it a try. If this isn't definitive enough, perhaps you should reconsider the complexity of the application you are trying to build. - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:34 PM Subject: Re: SQL ? Smart ass!!! There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Doug Brown - Original Message - From: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: Re: SQL ? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=booksfield-k eywor ds=database%20designbq=1/104-3879300-8333541 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=booksfield-k eywor ds=sqlbq=1/104-3879300-8333541 - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: SQL ? I had posted this before, but did not have a real definative answer. Could someone help please? I have my database set up as follows, it is a music DB tables [artists] [albums] [titles] [clips] I inset a new artist and am taken to a page to insert the album, and from there to a page to insert the song titles that are associated with that album, and from there to a page where I will insert the song clips associated with the song titles. The problem I am having is their is only one table row for each title and the same for the clips. The forms has 20 form fields on both the titles and clips pages. What I want to do is insert them so it comes out like so. Someone suggested to use a comma delimeted list of song titles, but that will not work being that I cannot associate them with the clips. Another said to put all titles into seperate rows and the same with the clips into the album table, but I do not think that is very good DB management. How can I loop through the 20 form fields on each page to have it insert like below. I hope this makes sense, and yes I know this is basic SQL stuff and I probably need to take a course. [titles] IDalbum_idsongTitle 12 hello world 22 testing 32 testing2 [clips] IDtitle_idclip 1 1songClip1 2 2songClip2 3 3songClip3 There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Doug Brown __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm
Re: Developer Exchange Search
It's no worse than it was back in the Allaire days I wrote absolute crap that used Access and Verity when I first picked up CF in the 4.0 days that ran faster. - Original Message - From: Dave Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: Developer Exchange Search Time to wake up guys. The function is sooo slow. Please look into it!!! __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
Well, a number of those features don't exist in ASP. Things like application.cfm, custom tags, list manipulation functions. You'll need to reproduce some CF functionality, and rethink how you architect your application. It sounds to me like you're coming at this fresh - if so, I'd look at ASP.NET as opposed to ASP 2/3. ASP.NET is far more robust; plus it has the performance advantages that Neo will have. Also, I find the code much cleaner a closer to a tag-based syntax than 2/3. This depends entirely on the hosting situation, however. There's a number of good ASP websites out there; also, I recommend the Wrox series of books. However, there really isn't a CF 2 ASP resource out there. I've begun to start one (www.cfasp.com), but at this point, it only has a message board. I'll attempt to cover your points, as best I can: (ASP 2/3) 1. you can't initialize the same way that you can in application.cfm - however, when the app starts, you can initialize application and session scopes in global.asa - note that there is no client scope in ASP 2. there is no CFModule - if you're wanting to encapsulate functionality, you'll need to write components (most likely in VB) - of course, you can include files just as in CF - note that in ASP, you can't conditionally include files as in CF - you might want to look at server.execute and server.transfer as some other options 3. ADO - it's all over the web, and there's plenty of examples out there - get ready to totally rethink how you query the database (of course, CF does the same things, but abstracts it for you) 4. SSI - !-- #include file=file.asp -- 5. very similar in VBScript - get the VBScript docs at msdn.microsoft.com/scripting 6. no such critter - in VBScript, you don't have to initialize variables - unitialized vars are simply zero-length strings 7. see #6 - everything isDefined() 8. see For/While loops in VBScript docs - also see ADO stuff - keep in mind that ADO recordsets require you to manually iterate over the recordset, as opposed to cfoutput that does it for you 9. you'll have to reproduce these yourself 10. most of the rich array functions aren't present - you can read/write arrays, get the UBound() and LBound(), but that's about it 11. no structs per se - you'll need to look at using the Dictionary object to reproduce most of the CF functionality - it's so much trouble, I usually ignore lists and structs and stick with arrays 12. absolutely: option % if thisID = thatID then %selected% end if % 13. Most of the date functions are there - for the most part, they even have the same name 14. Administrative functions - hahahahaha - it's called IIS - this will be quite a paradigm shift - debugging, there is a script debugger server-side, but this is more like traditional application debugging - if you want to see recordset, url, form, etc info, you'll need to put it in yourself (note that ASP.NET has some serious debugging output options though) 15. index server - this is a whole other beast - I highly recommend some good reading here (note that this is more for files, not for recordsets) Good luck! - Original Message - From: Chris Norloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: ASP Equivalents? We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but the customer is adamant. Anybody know a good source for getting ASP equivalents for: 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session scope variables as we do in application.cfm 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) 3. cfquery 4. cfinclude 5. cfswitch/cfcase 6. cfparam 7. isDefined() function 8. cfoutput, cfloop 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tell us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) 11. Structs (see 10) 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way that CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expression within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my select option tags for handling complex option lists. 13. Date functions like in CF? 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a datasource and debugging info? 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Windows Explorer HTML thumbnails
all it does is render it in a tiny window - you can see the code, just look for the .htt file - Original Message - From: Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Windows Explorer HTML thumbnails anyone got any idea on how to re-use the window explorer webpage thumbnails to create a cool CFX, CFX_WEBPAGEIMAGE ? zac __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
You really want to stick with VBScript (in ASP 2/3), since 99% of all examples will be in that language, and it seems to be the easiest of those listed to learn (you may already know JScript, but there alot of difference between server-side and client-side coding) - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? I mean what language are you using for your Active Server Page? You can write them in perl, python, javascript, vbscript, and probably many more languages. On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Bryan Stevenson wrote: He's not developing an ASP he's using ASP to develop an app (and we'll ne ver for give him for it...hehe) ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? what language are you using for your ASP? On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote: We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) b ut t he customer is adamant. Anybody know a good source for getting ASP equivalents for: 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session sco pe variables as we do in application.cfm 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) 3. cfquery 4. cfinclude 5. cfswitch/cfcase 6. cfparam 7. isDefined() function 8. cfoutput, cfloop 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tel l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) 11. Structs (see 10) 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way tha t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expr ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my select option tags for handling complex option lists. 13. Date functions like in CF? 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a da tasource and debugging info? 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabili ties __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: How to determine what button was pushed? --(@@@)
Why not try this instead: form action=page.cfm method=get or post name=frm input type=button name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Move onClick=OnSubmit(); input type=button name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Copy onClick=OnSubmit(); /form - Original Message - From: Troy Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: How to determine what button was pushed? --(@@@) Is there a way to use client-side javascript to determine what button was pushed before submitting a form? For example: form action=page.cfm method=get or post name=frm onsubmit=return OnSubmit(); input type=submit name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Move input type=submit name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Copy /form Thanks, Troy P.S. Anyone know of a good JavaScript list to subscribe to? -- Troy Simpson | North Carolina State University NCSU Libraries | Campus Box 7111 | Raleigh | North Carolina ph.919.515.3855 | fax.919.513.3330 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. -- Andre Gide __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Trouble installing CF Express
Note that the downloadable version of CF5 has a developer's liscense available (connections from one IP address), so that you can explore the full feature-set of CF (CFExpress is feature limited, missing things like CFFile) Of course, this may not be the issue at all. Do ASP pages work in PWS? Just paste this code into a page and name it test.asp: %= Now() % Note that even though PWS may be able to serve up static pages, that doesn't mean that everything is OK. What do the permissions in PWS look like? It's been a while since I ran it, but you need to make sure that permissions are set to either Script or Execute. Another possibility is running the Apache web server - supported by CF as well. - Original Message - From: Bear Clover [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: Trouble installing CF Express Hello, I am new to this list. I am glad I discovered it! I have just discovered ColdFusion, and am pretty excited about learning it. I've created a few simple scripts, (and got them to WORK) and now I want to learn more. I have a few good CF books, which are really helping so far. I have been trying to install CF Express on my Windows 98 PC, and it just won't take. I cannot get Administrator to open, no matter what. I know my Personal Web Server is working, because I can open its IP, and localhost. I am at a loss about why CF Express won't install. I even uninstalled and reinstalled it, but that didn't make any difference. If anyone has any idea what might be the problem, I'd appreciate any help! Right now, I'm editing CF scripts on my Mac, using BBEdit, and then uploading them to my webhost (which supports CF 4.5) to test. This is a little more time-consuming, but at least it works! I could do the same on my PC, of course, but my PC is out of favor with me since it refused to install CF Express! ;-) ~JR __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CSS
I don't think this will work very well. I know you can change some of the information in IE, but it won't be cross-browser. If you really need that look, I'd replicate a drop down using DHTML. (go to www.mr-bill.net/archives.cfm for something I've done - I know it only works in IE now, but it could easily be done in NS) - Original Message - From: Steven Dworman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:27 AM Subject: OT: CSS I've been reading through css resources, but I can't seem to find much on altering the properties of a select box. Changing the font, width, height, blah blah is no problem. This issue is changing the scroll bar properties such as color, and border properties so that I can remove the 3d effect. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Steven D Dworman - Web Consultant Systems Administrator ComSpec International - http://www.comspec-intnl.com phone: 248.647.8841 cell: 734.972.9676 - EMPOWER-XL ***Software for Higher Education*** http://www.empower-xl.com __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Capture Output from CFINCLUDE?
Use CFHTTP - Original Message - From: James Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: Capture Output from CFINCLUDE? Is it possible to capture the output from an included template? I have tried CFSAVECONTENT and also tried to wrap the cfinclude within a custom tag and use ThisTag.GeneratedContent but to no avail. It is not an option to modify the cfincluded file. Nor is it an option to convert it into a cf module. So, all suggestions are welcomed. :) If it is not possible, please let me know too! :) Thanks. James Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: html standards
There's actually a custom tag (by Steve Nelson) called cf_HTMLHead that does this - I use it on most of my applications: http://www.fusebox.org//download/tags/htmlhead.zip - Original Message - From: Kevin Bridges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: RE: html standards That cfhtmlhead tag is pretty sweet ... However, can someone please pass on to Macromedia that it makes zero sense to call it like so: cfhtmlhead text= It should be called like this: cfhtmlhead/cfhtmlhead Now if we want to start using cfhtmlhead we have to go through all of our js code and make sure the quotes are escaped and don't conflict with the type of quote you use in . ::: -Original Message- ::: From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ::: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:36 AM ::: To: CF-Talk ::: Subject: RE: html standards ::: ::: ::: Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where ::: there is a fair bit of code in application.cfm and in header ::: files and such. The htmlhead blah blah /headbody ::: section is in a file called dsp_header. In some pages, much ::: of the javascript gets included with the form as a simple ::: script block outside the head/head tags. Also, we've ::: recently put some javascript code in the application.cfm ::: file. ::: ::: The short answer is, no, current browsers don't care where ::: your JavaScript ::: is, as long as functions and objects are defined before ::: they're referenced. ::: However, standards compliance is a good thing, all other ::: things being equal, ::: and future browsers may care. ::: ::: Fortunately, you can deal with this using the CFHTMLHEAD ::: tag, which writes a ::: string to the HTML HEAD of the document. By itself, it's ::: difficult to use ::: with strings containing JavaScript, so you can build ::: yourself a little ::: four-line custom tag to automatically escape the strings: ::: ::: cfif ThisTag.ExecutionMode is end ::: cfhtmlhead text=#ThisTag.GeneratedContent# ::: cfset ThisTag.GeneratedContent = ::: /cfif ::: ::: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software ::: http://www.figleaf.com/ ::: voice: (202) 797-5496 ::: fax: (202) 797-5444 ::: ::: __ ::: Dedicated Windows 2000 Server ::: PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER ::: Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup ::: http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona ::: FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq ::: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ ::: Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Dealing with inventories
Isn't this a security flaw? Seems like someone could easily script a Denial of Service to go to your site, add all your inventory to their cart, therefore preventing anything from being sold - Original Message - From: stas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Dealing with inventories Hello, I am trying to figure out how to deal with updating the inventory in a shopping cart. I create (only if it doesn't already exist) an application scoped array within a CFLOCK populated by looping over a query. As users add items, I update the quantities in the that array. What I can't figure out is how to deal with abandoned shopping carts - how do I update the inventory back to the real value? __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Another dealing with inventories?
Basic database design. If you have one clip per song, why not just have a field that contains the clip filename? Otherwise, have a second table that contains a foreign key to your song ID. Now, obtaining the id created for the song is a bit tricky, depending on your RDBMS. - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:40 PM Subject: Another dealing with inventories? I have a form with several fields that will be filled in by someone adding song titles. Each song title will have a song clip(30 second demo of song) Have not figured out if they should be on the same form or not. I need figure out how to handle the song clip issue. I need the song clips ID to match up with the song titles ID, I have 2 seperate tables. IE: [albums] [clips] How would I go about inserting the song clips to where they will match up with the song titles? Hope this made sense There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Doug Brown __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Stored Procedure Too Slow
What does the execution plan in Query Analyzer tell you? - Original Message - From: Cody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: Stored Procedure Too Slow Hopefully someone can help me with this. I have this query that executes in around 90ms or so: --- cfquery name=treetwig datasource=#request.site.maindsn# SELECT Child.category_id, Child.category_name, (SELECT Count(*) FROM category_tree AS Child2, category_tree AS Parent2 WHERE Child2.StartBranch BETWEEN Parent2.StartBranch AND Parent2.EndBranch AND Child2.category_id = Child.category_id) AS lvl, P.pageid, P.Active FROM category_tree AS Parent, category_tree AS Child, tblPage AS P WHERE (Child.startbranch BETWEEN Parent.startbranch AND Parent.endbranch) AND Parent.category_id=#val(attributes.category_id)# AND Child.page_id = P.pageid AND P.Active = 1 ORDER BY Child.startbranch /cfquery -- But when I turn it into a stored procedure using: -- cfstoredproc procedure=pr_treetwig datasource=#request.site.maindsn# cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_INTEGER dbvarname=@CategoryID value=#val(attributes.category_id)# cfprocresult name=treetwig resultset=1 /cfstoredproc -- .. and the stored procedure looks like: -- CREATE PROCEDURE pr_treetwig @CategoryID [int] AS SELECT Child.category_id, Child.category_name, (SELECT Count(*) FROM category_tree AS Child2, category_tree AS Parent2 WHERE Child2.StartBranch BETWEEN Parent2.StartBranch AND Parent2.EndBranch AND Child2.category_id = Child.category_id) AS lvl, P.pageid, P.Active FROM category_tree AS Parent, category_tree AS Child, tblPage AS P WHERE (Child.startbranch BETWEEN Parent.startbranch AND Parent.endbranch) AND Parent.category_id= @CategoryID AND Child.page_id = P.pageid AND P.Active = 1 ORDER BY Child.startbranch GO -- It takes over twice as long to execute -- around 240ms. Can anyone tell me why? This has been driving me crazy. ^_^ Cody __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Dealing with inventories
I think the product catalog is in the application scope, not the individual shopping carts. - Original Message - From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Dealing with inventories I am trying to figure out how to deal with updating the inventory in a shopping cart. I create (only if it doesn't already exist) an application scoped array within a CFLOCK populated by looping over a query. As users add items, I update the quantities in the that array. What I can't figure out is how to deal with abandoned shopping carts - how do I update the inventory back to the real value? Stas, Personally I would use session or client variables for the cart rather than the application scope. Using the application scope, if you have a cart variable/structure called say cart everyone on the site would use the same cart. If you use session or client variables, then each user has their own cart and you don't have the problem of dealing with multiple users using one cart. On a busy site you could quite easily and quickly wind up with timeout/deadlock issues using the application scope. With regards updating the inventory, again personally I would only take items off of the inventory when the user hits the last button on the check out and their order is confirmed at that point. As Robert has just suggested hope that helps... Stephen __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF_dynamic_pdf_catalog
If you can get everything into a database, CF would work well - there's a number of PDF creation options for CF (I've used ActivePDF with success) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: CF_dynamic_pdf_catalog We're trying to build a catalog to be burnt onto a CD- ROM. We have hundreds of products detailed within their own Acrobat PDF files. I want to be able to edit existing PDFs and rebuild the CD-ROM, add a PDFs and rebuild the catalog made up of PDFs which will be burnt onto a CD-ROM. Has anyone every built a dynamic catalog assembly application? Maybe CF isn't the answer. Any feedback would be great. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OnRequestEnd.cfm not running
I'm not sure if this is the case, but if you're on anything but Windows (the server), filenames are case-sensitive. In other words, the file name should be OnRequestEnd.cfm, not onrequestend.cfm. What version of CF are you running? OnRequestEnd.cfm is only available in 4.5+ If you still can't get it to work, look at cf_sandwich - Original Message - From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: OnRequestEnd.cfm not running OK. This is weird. I thought OnRequestEnd runs every time a page is called, as long as there is a matching Application.cfm in the app Am I ok so far? I have a form page ... on submission goes to another .cfm page which does some error checking ... if errors are found, it sends the user back to the form cfinclude, and highlights the errors. When I first load the form page ... All the templates that are supposed to run, indeed do so. Including OnRequestEnd.cfm. If there is an error on the page though, and the user gets sent back to the form, the OnRequestEnd does not run, but Application.cfm does. Has anyone ever had this happen? Am I going nuts? Did I do something wrong? - Erika L. Walker-Arnold, VP, RUWebby, LLC - Macromedia ColdFusion Alliance Partner Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer - __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF and ASP
The mailing lists at 15Seconds are pretty good. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: CF and ASP Hello All, I have a question a bit off topic. Does anyone know of a list like this one but for ASP? I need to ask a few questions there to help get this site converted to CF. Thanks, Mike Michael T. Tangorre Resident Assistant - Brick Web Applications Developer A.U. Webteam Slave :-) AIM: CrazyFlash4 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF and ASP
Do they offer an email list? Imagine if CF-Talk was web-based only - Original Message - From: Brian Ferrigno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: RE: CF and ASP Michael, Try this one http://www.aspmessageboard.com/forum/asp.asp Brian Ferrigno -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and ASP Hello All, I have a question a bit off topic. Does anyone know of a list like this one but for ASP? I need to ask a few questions there to help get this site converted to CF. Thanks, Mike Michael T. Tangorre == Resident Assistant - Brick Web Applications Developer A.U. Webteam Slave :-) AIM: CrazyFlash4== __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists