CF8/Vagrant

2013-11-05 Thread Billy Cravens

Does anyone have good resources for a working CF8 Vagrant setup? I’ve gotten 
pretty close, with Ubuntu + Tomcat 7 + a CF8 WAR I have. I only have the WAR, 
and not the original installer, and it’s of course no longer available for 
download. 

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Adobe hacked

2013-10-03 Thread Billy Cravens

Kinda surprised no one else here has said anything,  but with the Adobe breach, 
change your Adobe.com password immediately.

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2013/10/important-customer-security-announcement.html
http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2013/10/illegal-access-to-adobe-source-code.html


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Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-16 Thread Billy Cravens

Calling Charlie Arehart, you are being paged :-)

All CFMeetups are recorded for posterity, and while seemingly inactive, Charlie 
is always open to folks presenting.


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On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I don't think it's recorded anywhere, but if you want me to give it
 somewhere, let me know. ;)
 
 nathan strutz
 [www.dopefly.com] [about.me/nathanstrutz]
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here:
 
 
 https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material
 
 I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording
 anywhere.
 
 
 Billy Cravens
 bdcrav...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote:
 
 How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF?
 
 Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way
 it can create dynamic HTML.
 It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be
 changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters
 stored in a database.
 It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in
 LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm...
 although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I
 suppose it will be the same with LESS files.
 
 The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source;
 CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :)
 
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Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Billy Cravens

LESS (and SASS/SCSS) are common, widely used CSS preprocessors. Frameworks like 
Bootstrap come with LESS files.

I could also write my own database use XML files and CF's XML/struct/array 
capabilities, but that would be quite ridiculous.


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On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com 
wrote:

 
 Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor.
 But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF.
 So what is the advantage of using yet another technology?
 
 
 

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Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here:


https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material

I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording anywhere.


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On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 
 On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote:
 
 How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF?
 
 Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it 
 can create dynamic HTML.
 It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For 
 instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a 
 database.
 It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in
 LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm...
 although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I 
 suppose it will be the same with LESS files.
 
 The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source; 
 CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :)
 
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 Twitter:  http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek
 Blog: http://rogerthegeek.wordpress.com/
 
 

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Re: Job Openings With Our Direct Client for COLD FUSION DEVELOPER@CHICAGO IL 60606 // SAN ANTONIO TX 78209 // ATLANTA GA 30308

2013-04-23 Thread Billy Cravens

The wording of the email was obviously what is copy-and-pasted to individuals, 
so I probably would have made the same mistake.

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On Apr 23, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 And I feel dumb for not realizing ha was posted to the list and not sent to 
 me directly, hahahaha. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4S. 
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 You may have more luck if you use the actual name of the technology.
 ColdFusion, not Cold Fusion.
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Sharan sha...@suntechnologies.com wrote:
 
 
 Greetings from Sun Technologies!
 
 
 
 My name is Sharan Gowda and I'm a Recruiter at Sun Technologies Inc.
 
 
 
 Our records show that you have past or current experience with skills
 fitting a current opening with our Direct End Client. Please be aware that
 our database has searched out your resume based on key word skills, so
 please accept my apologies if this requirement does not match your current
 or preferred job profile or location preference.
 
 
 
 I would love to show my appreciation with referral fee(s) for anyone I hire
 through your referral/introduction/recommendation, including confidential
 referrals.  If you know anyone who is interested / qualified, please feel
 free to pass on my contact info as you see fit.
 
 
 
 Job Details
 
 
 
 Job Title: COLD FUSION DEVELOPER
 
 Job Location: CHICAGO IL  60606 // SAN ANTONIO  TX 78209  // ATLANTA GA
 30308
 
 Duration: EXPECTED TO BE 8 MONTHS CONTRACT WITH POSSIBLE EXTENSION
 
 Positions: 3
 
 
 
 PLEASE LIST IN THE SUPPLIMENTAL AREA WHERE CANDIDATE IS ELIGIABLE TO WORK
 
 
 
 This position will work on ColdFusion report development and migration for
 the new One Click initiative. The candidate must possess cross-browser
 web-development skills including IE (all versions), Firefox, Safari, and
 Chrome. Other critical skill sets include ColdFusion 9 or later and a
 working knowledge of SQL Server Query Design  Optimization  SQL Server
 Integration Services (SSIS), familiarity with Eclipse/CFEclipse or
 Dreamweaver, jQuery, HTML-4/5 and Cascading Style sheets.
 
 
 
 
 Skills Inventory
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Need
 
 
 1)
 
 Cold Fusion 10
 
 Expert
 
 Required
 
 
 2)
 
 SQL Server Query Design
 
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 3)
 
 CSS-2
 
 Expert
 
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 4)
 
 HTML 4 (minimum)
 
 Expert
 
 Required
 
 
 5)
 
 JQuery
 
 Intermediate
 
 Desired
 
 
 6)
 
 Eclipse-Dreamweaver
 
 Intermediate
 
 Desired
 
 
 7)
 
 Webservices using XML
 
 Intermediate
 
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 8)
 
 Prior ATT Experience
 
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 Desired
 
 
 
 Please fill the below information and send it along with your resume in
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 *   Expected Hourly Rate:
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 Thanks  Regards,
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 Sun Technologies, Inc.
 3700 Mansell Road Suite 125
 
 Alpharetta GA 30022
 
 Phone number - 678-713-5809
 
 Fax 678-459-1068
 
 Email:   mailto:sha...@suntechnologies.com sha...@suntechnologies.com
 
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Re: Standard w3c tags

2013-04-23 Thread Billy Cravens

My understanding is that meta, per the spec, can contain anything, which is 
what Dave was alluding to.

Come to think of it, are there more meta tags doesn't really make since. 
There's only one tag. There's common attributes, but attribute values aren't 
standardized on, tags are. It's a bit like asking How many a tags are there?


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On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Well sure, there may be. Any browser can support whatever the heck they
 wanted. But if you want to know the *official* list, the spec is your best
 bet.
 
 If you are curious about what the other browsers support, check out this
 blog entry I did where I talked about how to find docs for the major
 vendors:
 
 http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2012/8/6/What-tags-does-your-browser-support-2012
 
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:57 AM, funand learning
 funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 Apart from the example list provided, are there more meta tags?
 
 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Maybe I'm confused, but wouldn't the spec (your link) be the standard?
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:41 AM, funand learning
 funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 All -
 
 What are the list of standard meta tags defined in w3c other than the
 below
 given at http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Elements/meta
 
   meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
 /
  meta http-equiv=Content-Style-Type content=text/css /
  meta name=copyright content=© W3C /
  meta name=author lang=en content= /
  meta name=robots content=Index,Follow /
  meta name=description
content=The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is an
 international community
where Member organizations, a full-time staff,
and the public work together to develop Web standards. /
  meta name=keyword content=W3C, HTML, CSS, SVG, Web standards /
 
 
 I posted the same question in stackoverflow
 
 
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16171686/list-of-standard-w3c-meta-tags
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Coldfusion and Adobe Echosign - any examples?

2013-04-19 Thread Billy Cravens

I don't know of any specific examples, so it looks to be a SOAP web service.

cfscript
echosignWs = 
CreateObject('webservice','https://secure.echosign.com/services/EchoSignDocumentService15?wsdl');
docResult=echosignWs.createLibraryDocument(apiKey=myApiKey,libraryDocumentCreationInfo=myDocInfo);
…..
/cfscript

You instantiate the service, and then call various methods on the API according 
to the docs at 
https://secure.echosign.com/public/docs/EchoSignDocumentService15. The most 
tedious part is creating the various input arguments, which often come from 
other methods. 


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On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote:

 
 Do you know of any examples using Coldfusion to connect with Echosign's
 API? We are exploring moving from Docusign to Echosign for online document
 signing. We generate PDF documents on a website that site visitors then
 sign at Docusign. We transmit the PDF to be  signed to Docusign and the
 users are notified how to sign it electronically there. If anyone is doing
 something similar with Echosign, I'm looking for CF examples that do this.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions,
 Stephen Hait
 
 
 

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Re: CF running out of steam

2013-03-15 Thread Billy Cravens

Probably not 100% scientific, but worth a look: 

http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=ColdFusion%2C+groovy%2C+scala%2C+clojure%2C+node.jsl=

Supposedly there's more hirings in CF than node.js, Scala, and Clojure. Groovy 
only recently took eclipsed CF. Now obviously there's the trend for CF is going 
down, and the other cool languages are going up. Still, I think a little 
perspective can be a reality check. You might not be developing CF in 10 or 20 
years, but if your skills are good, I think there's still a few more years left 
to it. 


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On Mar 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:

 
 programming. CF does what you need with server-side programming. But
 server-side application development tools are basically a commodity at
 this point. You can do anything with anything. There's nothing I can
 
 not quite. make sure you're sitting down  not drinking anything, then check 
 the
 price of an arcGIS server license (inside the US, prices outside the US might
 make your head explode). plus you need at least one desktop seat (about the 
 same
 cost as enterprise cf) just to manage your arcGIS servers.
 
 in large enterprise projects that make use of that kind of server platform, 
 cf's
 relatively cheap  a very nice fit especially where you have to dip into java
 libs to get stuff done, run off reports, etc.
 
 Yeah, my comparison was aimed at general-purpose server-side
 programming environments, not stuff like arcGIS. And CF is definitely
 cheap for enterprise software - and that might actually be a problem
 in the enterprise, as people in the enterprise often equate cost with
 value. (There's no other explanation I have for the continued success
 of Oracle.)
 
 If you compare CF to ASP.NET, or to common J2EE environments, or to
 PHP, CF is easier to use, but not so much easier that everyone's going
 to switch to it from those other things.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
 
 

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Re: CF10 lockdown question

2013-03-06 Thread Billy Cravens

+1 to FuseGuard. Implemented this on a site this a *lot* of SQL injection 
issues. No firewall or similar product is a substitute for well-written code, 
but putting this in place stopped the hemorrhaging overnight.

+1 to HackMyCF as well. Use this on the main site I support, and I'm very happy 
with weekly updates (not only tells you what the problem is, but links to how 
to fix it)

No, Pete isn't paying me to say this. :-)


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 5) Employ redundant layers of security (defense in depth), for example
 using a web application firewall, such as the one my company makes
 http://fuseguard.com/ there are other ones that are non specific to CF as
 well.
 
 6) Use security monitoring and scanning tools, such as a PCI scanner, and
 http://hackmycf.com/ (note HackMyCF is not a PCI scanner, you should still
 use a PCI scanner in addition to HackMyCF, which is highly CF specific).
 


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Re: question on cfloop

2013-02-28 Thread Billy Cravens

Not sure, but I believe the index at loop completion is incremented - that's 
how it knows how to stop. So it's similar to 

j=1;
while(j2) {
j++;
}


I've never used the loop index, and I don't think you should depend on it. Not 
sure what documented behavior is, but if it isn't documented in a specific way, 
it would be totally appropriate for it to go out of scope in a future version 
(kinda surprised it doesn't)

Instead, use your own counter var.

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On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:46 PM, funand learning funandlrnn...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I am sorry, I wasn't clear. the to is arraylen. Sometimes the arraylen is
 1
 
 cfloop from=1 to=#ArrayLen(somearray)# index=j
 
 /cfloop
 
 cfoutput#j#/cfoutput --this returns 2
 
 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Phillip Vector
 vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote:
 
 
 Why are you looping from 1 to 1? That isn't a loop.
 
 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM, fun and learning
 funandlrnn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a query on looping in coldfusion.Why does the below loop run
 twice?
 
 cfloop from=1 to=1 index=j
   cfoutput#j#/cfoutput
 /cfloop
 
 I thought the above code should return only 1, but it returns 1 2
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: full file information

2013-02-26 Thread Billy Cravens

Java's NIO gives you that info, but requires JDK7.

If you're on Windows, you could use the File class to get that info: 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.io.file.aspx

If on Linux or other *nix, you can use cfexecute and bash stat command, and 
parse the output.

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On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com 
wrote:

 
 Only returns Lastmodified, not created or lastaccessed.
 
 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Raymond Camden 
 raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 getFileInfo()
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Michael Dinowitz 
 mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote:
 
 
 I've played with cfdirectory and cffile as well as their functional
 equivalents but none of them give me 'all' of the information available
 about a file. It'll give me the lastmodified date but not the created or
 accessed dates. Does anyone know of a cfx, java object, or something else
 that will get me all of the data available from a file?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Looking for a CF drag drop tutorial

2013-02-05 Thread Billy Cravens

Have you looked at adding jQueryUI, rather than rolling your own drag/drop? 
I've used it in the past with success.

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On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Elizabeth Adkins eadk...@acisd.org wrote:

 
 I'm working on the same thing.  This is what I have so far.  It works up to 
 the .JSON call, but I can't get that to work.  Any suggestions?
 !--draganddrop.cfm---
 head
 style type=text/css
 #div1 {width:336px;height:70px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #aa;}
 #div2 {width:336px;height:70px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #aa;}
 #div3 {width:336px;height:70px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #aa;}
 /style
 CFAJAXPROXY cfc=cfc.myPreferences jsclassname=myPreferences
 script type=text/javascript 
 src=http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1/jquery.min.js;/script
 script type=text/javascript
 function allowDrop(ev)
 {
 ev.preventDefault();
 }
 function drag(ev)
 {
 ev.dataTransfer.setData(Text,ev.target.id);
 }
 function drop(ev,empID,tab)
 {
 var data=ev.dataTransfer.getData(Text);
 var placement = ev.target.id;
 var widgetID = data;
 ev.target.appendChild(document.getElementById(data));
 alert(widgetID +','+ placement +','+ empID +','+ tab);
 $.getJSON(/cfc/ myPreferences.cfc?method=updatePlacementreturnformat=json,
 {tabname:tabname}, 
 function(result)
 {alert('Success!!! '+result.widget);}
 );
 ev.preventDefault();
 }
 /script
 /head
 body
 cfset empID = 'XXX'
 cfoutput
 div id=div1 ondrop=drop(event,'#empID#','info') 
 ondragover=allowDrop(event)/div
 div id=div2 ondrop=drop(event,'#empID#','info') 
 ondragover=allowDrop(event)/div
 div id=div3 ondrop=drop(event,'#empID#','info') 
 ondragover=allowDrop(event)/div
 /cfoutput
 img id=mountain src=/images/001.jpg draggable=true 
 ondragstart=drag(event) width=336 height=69 /
 img id=circle src=/images/delete.gif draggable=true 
 ondragstart=drag(event) /
 img id=RoundedRectangle src=/images/check_off.gif draggable=true 
 ondragstart=drag(event) /
 /body
 !---myPreferences.cfc
 CFCOMPONENT displayname=myPreferences
 CFFUNCTION name=updatePlacement access=remote returntype=struct 
 output=yes
 CFARGUMENT name=tabname required=yes 
 CFSET var showme = structNew()
 cfset showme.tab = ARGUMENTS.tabname
 CFRETURN showme
 /CFFUNCTION 
 /CFCOMPONENT
 
 
 

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Re: Source control in CF

2013-01-31 Thread Billy Cravens

To build on this idea, look at Vagrant. It allows your IT department (or 
whoever's responsible) to maintain a script that loads a VM, necessary assets, 
and code. I've written a Vagrant script for Railo:

https://github.com/bdcravens/railo-vagrant

Here's a Chef recipe Nathan Mische wrote for CF10 (which can be used in a 
Vagrant setup):
https://github.com/nmische/chef-coldfusion10

Vagrant is awesome. Run a script, get a VM. Dev against a local directory on 
your machine, and check into source code repo as necessary. When you're done, 
shut the machine off. The shared directories don't go away (so you keep working 
code), but everything else does, until you need to spin it up again. Currently 
works against VirtualBox, VMWare coming soon.



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On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Andy Ousterhout a...@omygoodness.com wrote:

 
 Why not just have a local VMware image for developer unit testing?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Michael Christensen mich...@strib.dk wrote:
 
 
 First of, let me thank all of you for your (quite lively) inputs.
 
 The discussion did spiral a bit out of control in a GIT vs SVN tussle, but I 
 understand and can respect that people have strong opinions as to which 
 systems they prefer.
 
 I also wholeheartedly agree, that there are certain advantages to be gained 
 by each developer having a working copy of the code on their local machines.
 I would, however, contest the absoluteness of this as the only way to go.
 
 While it is true, that the CF Developer licensing does allow for each 
 developer to run a CF server locally without paying a license fee, the time 
 spent by the IT department setting up and supporting 50+ websites (plus our 
 backend/admin software) on each developer machine does come at a cost.
 Add in the cost of additional licenses for 3rd party components (like 
 ImageGlue or ISAPI rewrite for example) and the cost of being able to run 
 code locally can add up quite quickly.
 
 For us at least, running on a shared codebase with 1 development server and 
 all code available via a webpath (usually mounted as a drive for 
 convenience) works quite well and has done so without major snafus for 10+ 
 years.
 
 Is this an oldschool approach? Very much so.
 Is it a good solution? Maybe not for every company, but it works for us.
 
 I understand, that our setup makes running version/source control very 
 difficult and it is a conclusion that I feared I might reach, when I posted 
 the question initially.
 
 I think that I may have to go back and have a long, hard think about how we 
 will proceed from here.
 
 If any of you, who are running a setup where each developer runs the code 
 locally, I would be very appreciative if you could give me 30 minutes to an 
 hour of your time, so I might pick your brain as to how you have gone about 
 getting this setup and how you maintain it (I think this is probably best 
 done over Skype).
 
 So once again, thank you guys so much for all your input :) 
 
 
 
 

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Re: CF10 styling cftooltip?

2012-12-22 Thread Billy Cravens

You can't add a class to the cftooltip tag itself. Personally, I wouldn't use 
the CF UI tags. You'll get more control using any of the many tooltip jQuery 
plugins out there. That said …

You can always add a style inline using the style attribute. I assume there's a 
reason you're not doing that.

Use Google Developer Tools to see the actual HTML rendered by CF and JavaScript 
(View source only shows you the HTML, not the rendered DOM). By doing this, I 
saw (in CF10):

tooltip is in a div with class of yui-tt, so you can do something like the 
following:

style
.yui-tt {background:blue;}
/style

Of course, this would be global. Multiple tooltips, each with their own style?

The text you hover over is enclosed in a span, with an id of 
cf_tooltip_(somerandomid). The tooltip itself is in a div with the span's id 
appended with _cf_tooltip. Wrapping cftooltip with a div makes it easy to 
perform specific tasks on that tooltip:

div id=gotcha
cftooltip
autoDismissDelay=5000
hideDelay=250
showDelay=200
tooltip=Hey I am a tooltip generated by CF!
  
Hover over me please
  
/cftooltip
/div

Then use jQuery to act on it and set a class: (assuming you've setup .redbg in 
your CSS)
script src=http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.8.3.min.js;/script
script
$(function() {
$('#gotcha').mouseover(function(){
el = $(this).find('span[id^=cf_tooltip_]');
tooltipId=el.attr('id')+'_cf_tooltip';
$('#'+tooltipId).addClass('redbg');

});
});
/script

Problem: the tooltip div isn't created until it's called the first time, so the 
first time, it'll have the default style. May be a way to cancel the mouseover 
event the first time, set the class, and then re-fire.



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 I'm looking for an example of specifying style info for a cftooltip. I'd
 like to specify a class in a style sheet and reference that from the
 cftooltip tag. If that's not possible, how else can I go about this?
 
 Thanks,
 Stephen
 
 
 

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Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Billy Cravens

This publisher releases something like 10,000+ titles a year: they scrape 
Wikipedia content and sell it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDM_Publishing


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On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Carl Von Stetten wrote:

 
 Yeah, or how about the red seal on the cover that says High Quality 
 Content by WIKIPEDIA articles!? LOL :-D
 
 On 2/21/2012 11:04 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades wrote:
 You mean I should write a book on CFScript? Fantastic?
 
 Betascript Publishing hhhm...
 
 Anyone notice the tagline states:
 ColdFusion Markup Language, JavaScript, BlogCFC
 
 Now THAT is interesting...
 
 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com
 
 
 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010
 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
 
 The best way to predict the future is to help create it
 
 
 On 2/20/2012 10:48 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
 Hello to all.
 
 Are there any CFScript books out there?  I ordered this onw but it was a
 complete joke.  A total waste of money:
 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cfscript-lambert-m-surhone/1026883099.
 
 All suggestions welcome.
 
 -RR
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment

2011-11-26 Thread Billy Cravens

If your machine is a Windows machine, should have no problem running IIS, and 
if it's Win7, should be able to set IIS like they have it. 

If a Mac, you can run Apache, but personally, I prefer just spinning up Tomcat 
and running via WARs - easier to stand up and tear down entire CF instances, in 
my opinion, so the admin isn't' cluttered with settings unrelated to the app 
I'm interested in at the moment.

VMs run fine on 8GB - I'd allocate 1 or 2 GB, and you shouldn't have many 
problems. Things might run a bit slow, but that's fine while developing. 
However, VM is really only needed if you have some settings like .htaccess or 
web.config settings; probably only the case if your setup with CT is a VPS. 

OS licensing: Good idea to mirror what CT has, but that probably doesn't 
matter. However if Windows Server is needed, you can download a trial version 
if that meets your need. If you need a long-term license, an MS TechNet 
subscription would work (pretty sure for dev purposes doesn't violate the 
licensing there) for cheap. MS also had a program called WebsiteSpark, where 
based on your needs and qualifications, they give away licenses of Windows 
Server, SQL Server, Visual Studio, etc.


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On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Smith wrote:

 
 hello.  i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did
 other things, and now i am posting again.
 
 good to see you all.
 
 SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev.  site(s) is on
 crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible.  i can go
 apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis.
 
 would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could swing
 it to maintain equality between the dev and live.
 
 laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it?
 
 want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather
 than wait on disks.  all my stuff is at home.
 
 thanks all!
 
 chedder
 
 
 

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Re: Amazon Product Advertising API

2011-11-26 Thread Billy Cravens

I've integrated into Amazon using some of their AWS services, though not the 
API you're referencing. I believe they all pretty much work the same: you send 
Amazon a specifically formatted string, and HMAC encode it.

Look at the code inside of the AWS Console project on RIA Forge - I've used 
that one, and confirm that it works. It's split into a number of CFCs, so it 
should be pretty easy to pull out only what you need.

I believe the S3 project referenced in the gist you posted is valid, but I 
can't comment on it as I've never used it.


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On Nov 26, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Rick T wrote:

 
 Hey guys having trouble getting this API to work.
 I was using an old script from Tom Dawe (http://amazonsig.riaforge.org)
 I then realized I was not getting commission, even though nothing was 
 erroring out.  Found out that this script is no longer valid.
 
 Found this new CFC (https://gist.github.com/874365), but there is no usage 
 instructions... Anybody know the usage for this CFC, or a CFC that works with 
 latest changes that Amazon made on their API?
 
 
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Re: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed???

2011-10-05 Thread Billy Cravens

I believe you can implement socket.io without using node.js, which provides
cross browser asynchronous push. The next version of ColdFusion will have
full web socket support, but that doesn't help you today.

Some sites are relying on PusherApp.com to provide this.

Billy Cravens

On Wednesday, October 5, 2011, Josh Nathanson joshnathan...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Jenny - this is a Railo implementation of a web socket gateway, but it is
 helpful to understand the concept.

 http://wiki.getrailo.org/wiki/Extensions:WebSockets_Gateway

 -- Josh

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
 jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:


 Interesting .. Josh, any good links on the subject you could point me to,
 please?

 TIA,

 Jenny Gavin-Wear
 Fast Track Online
 Tel: 01262 602013
 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:joshnathan...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 04 October 2011 17:53
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed???
 
 If you want to get really jiggy with it, you can use a Gateway on
 the server
 side and connect to it using long polling or web sockets.  This
 will push
 server changes to any connected clients immediately.
 
 -- Josh

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Re: CFPOP

2011-09-19 Thread Billy Cravens

#paragraphFormat(messageBody)# does the same thing.

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On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Michael Grant wrote:

 
 pre#messageBody#/pre
 
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
 jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 I'm using CFPOP to import mail into an online archive.
 
 I'm just going to use the textbody to display the messages in the browser.
 
 My question is, what is the ideal way of formatting the message, replacing
 all the LF's, etc with br's.
 
 I'm thinking someone must have done this before, maybe I don't need to
 reinvent the wheel 
 
 Many thanks in advance!
 
 
 Jenny Gavin-Wear
 Fast Track Online
 Tel: 01262 602013
 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: SOT: ColdFusion on .NET Rocks podcast

2011-09-16 Thread Billy Cravens

I've only been listening for the last year or so, and I've really gotten quite 
a bit from the show, both .NET and otherwise. As I told them, I don't think 
they suffer from fanboy fever, so maybe there's been a mellowing over the years.

Thanks for the feedback, look forward to seeing at MAX.

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On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Nathan Strutz wrote:

 
 Wow Billy,
 
 Carl was pretty hostile to CF a few years ago when I stopped listening.
 Great show, I'm really glad you did it. See you at MAX!
 
 nathan strutz
 [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz]
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 I recently had the opportunity to sit down and talk with the guys at .NET
 Rocks!, comparing ColdFusion to .NET. You may recall I had a few questions
 I
 asked here in prep for that interview.
 
 http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=696
 
 Keep in mind that we were talking ColdFusion at a pretty high level, trying
 to compare it with .NET and identifying if it is a full featured platform
 that relevant to today's developer or if it's a relic of the past. (The
 hosts are great and love technology, and the conversation was a good one).
 There's plenty of nitty gritty we didn't talk about, and many points I
 meant
 to make but didn't, which I've tried to expand upon here:
 
 http://www.billycravens.com/coldfusion-on-net-rocks
 
 
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SOT: ColdFusion on .NET Rocks podcast

2011-09-15 Thread Billy Cravens

I recently had the opportunity to sit down and talk with the guys at .NET
Rocks!, comparing ColdFusion to .NET. You may recall I had a few questions I
asked here in prep for that interview.

http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=696

Keep in mind that we were talking ColdFusion at a pretty high level, trying
to compare it with .NET and identifying if it is a full featured platform
that relevant to today's developer or if it's a relic of the past. (The
hosts are great and love technology, and the conversation was a good one).
There's plenty of nitty gritty we didn't talk about, and many points I meant
to make but didn't, which I've tried to expand upon here:

http://www.billycravens.com/coldfusion-on-net-rocks


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Re: Article on F'd Company mentions using CFML

2011-09-09 Thread Billy Cravens

Correct - see this URL: http://investor.apple.com/common/download/download.cfm

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On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Wil Genovese wrote:

 
 Besides, the Apple Investor site is not Apple's.
 
 The IP address is 206.200.251.19 running IIS6
 Whois reports this
 Nasdaq Stock Market NASDAQ-BLK2 (NET-206-200-0-0-1) 206.200.0.0 - 
 206.200.255.255
 American Registry for Internet Numbers NET206 (NET-206-0-0-0-0) 206.0.0.0 - 
 206.255.255.255
 
 The Apple Store IP Address is 17.149.156.10
 Whois shows Apple owns the Class A 17.0.0.0/8
 
 But hey, at least Nasdaq is running ColdFusion
 
 
 
 
 
 Wil Genovese
 Sr. Web Application Developer/
 Systems Administrator
 CF Webtools
 www.cfwebtools.com
 
 wilg...@trunkful.com
 www.trunkful.com
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
 
 
 Passing this along as an FYI for fun. Came across this on the High 
 Scalability blog. Talks about what the
 creator of F'edCompany uses for his backend (hint - uses CFML):
 
 http://highscalability.com/blog/2011/8/31/pud-is-the-anti-stack-windows-cfml-dropbox-xeround-jungledis.html
 
 The article is kind of interesting, in that it really says bad things
 about his technology choices, yet in the end acknowledges that they're
 working fine for him.
 
 His Twitter feed points out something I'd never heard before. If you go 
 here, you'll see a CF error message:
 
 http://investor.apple.com/Application.cfc
 
 We can do better than that:
 
 http://investor.apple.com/stockquote.cfm
 
 ... and, it's running on IIS 6!
 
 Server:Microsoft-IIS/6.0
 X-Powered-By:ASP.NET
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
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 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: Workstation recommendations

2011-09-08 Thread Billy Cravens

I prefer building my own as well. I've found that the low- and mid-range 
systems tend to be cheaper if you buy a brand (you'll be locked in, but those 
systems probably don't have a lot of shelf life anyways), but for the high end, 
you can get some serious bang for your buck building your own - I recently 
built a screamer (7.6 WEI) for $1500 (SSD, 4 1TB drives in RAID 10, 8GB Corsair 
memory, i7 2600K) - I bought it at MicroCenter, and probably could have shaved 
off a couple hundred bucks if I gone with NewEgg. 

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On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:

 
 I am more of a fan of building it myself.  Most boards are plug and play. So
 no jumper or bios settings changes are generally needed.  You can put
 together a pretty powerful system for less by going that route.  Places like
 TigerDirect and NewEgg offer barebones kits that are a good starting point.
 
 Eric
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:45 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: SOT: Workstation recommendations
 
 
 My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive
 out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It
 worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too.
 
 Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands
 people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to
 stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF
 Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various
 browsers and other tools.
 
 Dell?
 Lenovo?
 Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)?
 Acer?
 Gateway?
 Others?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Matt
 
 
 
 

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Re: Anyone know how to fix this or why this happening?

2011-08-31 Thread Billy Cravens

My experience has been that it automatically overwrites the from address to the 
specified, but I only deal with that in development. (Perhaps that behavior has 
changed recently)


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On Aug 31, 2011, at 1:45 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

 
 Thanks Billy, that was my intial reaction. As I had come across that post
 about the SPF and mail limits etc before.
 
 Which is why I thought it might have been a relay issue to begin with,
 because the mail is not actually sent using accounts email address. It is
 sent through that account, and sort of made sense that it might be seen as
 spam.
 
 But we are not seeing anything other than the logs in ColdFusion, I have
 added the SPF records just out of curiosity to see if this might help.
 
 But I am not 100% sure that will fix it, will have to wait and see.
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 If you can send email, then you haven't hit the limit.
 
 Have you identified any patterns (size, to, from, cc, etc) on the messages
 that are unsuccessful?
 
 Billy Cravens
 bdcrav...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 -- 
 Regards,
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 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543
 
 
 

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Re: Anyone know how to fix this or why this happening?

2011-08-30 Thread Billy Cravens

Very similar to what you're reporting:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Apps/thread?tid=5f96d0e5cfc60a95hl=en

It can be a limit issue - I believe Google's SMTP server reject all connections 
from that user once you hit limit (500/day or 2000/day for a premium account; I 
am very certain about the limit, just less so about how the SMTP server 
responds). 
I know you say it's been working before, but test the limit issue before you 
summarily dismiss it. Google does have that limit, and perhaps they only 
recently started enforcing it for you.

To confirm whether or not it's a limit issue:
Login to the web interface using the user you're using for CFMail, and try to 
send - if you hit a limit, you're locked out for 24 hours.

You can always cycle through accounts to bypass the limit issue (this solution 
even shows up in Google's support pages, go figure)


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On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:

 
 That is still not an issue, this has been working for years. It has only
 just started to have these problems, and again I tried re-sending one at a
 time and one at a time fails.
 
 Like I said Google says that the error I pasted is a network bottle neck, as
 the reason is it times out waiting for a response.
 
 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
 
 
 how many emails are you sending per day through gmail, there are limits,
 and
 it might be blocking you if you have exceeded them.
 For google Apps it is 500 per day per user.
 
 --
 
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 www.bluethunderinternet.com  : Business hosting services  solutions
 www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community
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Re: Anyone know how to fix this or why this happening?

2011-08-30 Thread Billy Cravens

If you can send email, then you haven't hit the limit.

Have you identified any patterns (size, to, from, cc, etc) on the messages that 
are unsuccessful?

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On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

 
 Bill,
 
 It does sound very similar, but there are two things that doesn't gel with
 me here.
 
 1) this would mean that no more emails can be sent from this user, but I can
 send another email and it will be delivered fine.
 
 2) It also says that for this to be true, then an email will be sitting in
 the users mailbox stating that it was not deliverable and that it was
 considered Spam.
 
 This is not the case, and lastly we are talking about something that has
 only just happened. It appears the Google have had this in place for many
 years, and we have only just began to receive this problem in the last 7
 days.
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Very similar to what you're reporting:
 
 
 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Apps/thread?tid=5f96d0e5cfc60a95hl=en
 
 It can be a limit issue - I believe Google's SMTP server reject all
 connections from that user once you hit limit (500/day or 2000/day for a
 premium account; I am very certain about the limit, just less so about how
 the SMTP server responds).
 I know you say it's been working before, but test the limit issue before
 you summarily dismiss it. Google does have that limit, and perhaps they only
 recently started enforcing it for you.
 
 To confirm whether or not it's a limit issue:
 Login to the web interface using the user you're using for CFMail, and try
 to send - if you hit a limit, you're locked out for 24 hours.
 
 You can always cycle through accounts to bypass the limit issue (this
 solution even shows up in Google's support pages, go figure)
 
 
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Re: Distributed servers?

2011-08-27 Thread Billy Cravens

If you're to evacuate, do it now. Copy the code and your database to a USB key 
or your laptop. 

When you get somewhere that has Internet access, it's a lot simpler than you'd 
think. Go to aws.amazon.com, setup an account. Create an micro or small EC2 
instance running Windows - look for an AMI that runs SQL Server Express.

It'll take a few minutes to spin up, but once it does, you RDP in - you set up 
CF and your database like you would on any other server. 

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On Aug 27, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Al Musella, DPM wrote:

 
   Hate to ask - I know I am supposed to google first - but I am 
 under a mandatory evacuation - have to leave by 5pm.. (half hour 
 ago:)..  I did google and couldn't find a succinct way.
 DO you know of a simple guide to  setting up a cold fusion website 
 under Amazon? Bonus points for including sql server:)
 
 Al
 
 
 At 05:56 AM 8/27/2011, you wrote:
 
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Al Musella, DPM wrote:
 Luckily, people will understand down time due to a hurricane.. not
 too worried about a few minutes of data loss - I have a way to
 recover in case there is a loss...
 
 Sounds like you could get away with synchronizing your database
 transaction logs to somewhere with rsync. That easily keeps your data
 loss under 10 minutes and if you have a prepared AMI/VPS image
 somewhere you could be up and running again in 15 minutes. Just make
 sure your DNS TTL is low enough for that.
 
 
 when anything in this patient registry  is added or updated,
 I  send an email to my gmail account with  the old and new
 data  (encrypting any person info)... so if worst case happens, I can
 manually go back and fix things.
 
 But that only works if the email is not spooled on your local system.
 So you need to both disable the disk mail spool and use a remote SMTP
 server.
 
 Jochem
 
 
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Re: Wordpress password encryption decrypt with ColdFusion

2011-08-25 Thread Billy Cravens

Not really possible - it's not encrypted, it's an MD5 hash. You'll find plenty 
of links on how to *reset* the password (as the generous Google URL 
copy-and-paster provided), but that's not what you're asking for. There are 
ways to crack a password, if you have a large enough MD5 hash database, but 
that's not a good approach.

Your better approach is to convert the Wordpress to use a single sign on 
solution, such as oAuth. There are a number of WordPress plugins for this.

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On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Joel Black wrote:

 
 I have a website I am building that will be a 2 piece solution.  It will have 
 a blog built with Wordpress, but the main website and store will be built 
 with ColdFusion.  We want the user to be able to log into the blog, and log 
 into their shopping cart with the same username and password. 
 
 So my question is how do I decrypt the password from the Wordpress style 
 encryption.  Also, I will have to encrypt the password to the Wordpress style 
 if a user registers for an account in the checkout process. 
 
 

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Re: Wordpress password encryption decrypt with ColdFusion

2011-08-25 Thread Billy Cravens

Didn't think about that - you'd have to specify the algorithm:

hashedPw = hash(form.password, 'MD5')

When I get a chance, I'll test it against my Wordpress install.

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On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

 
 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not really possible - it's not encrypted, it's an MD5 hash.
 
 
 I odn't know if WordPress uses a hash, but if it does - you can absolutely
 authenticate against that using ColdFusion's Hash() function.
 
 hashedwordpresspassword = readWordPressPasswordFromDisc();
 
 if(hash(form.password) eq hashedwordpresspassword) {
  return good login;
 } else {
  return bad login;
 }
 
 oAuth would work too, but will be much much more work.
 
 Much.
 
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Re: Wordpress password encryption decrypt with ColdFusion

2011-08-25 Thread Billy Cravens

Yeah, I only quickly glanced at the docs 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/CFMLRef/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec22c24-7c52.html)
 - it lists CFMX_COMPAT as the default, but that's the same as MD5.

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On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

 
 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Didn't think about that - you'd have to specify the algorithm:
 
 hashedPw = hash(form.password, 'MD5')
 
 
 Nope.  MD5 is the default. hash(form.password) will work just fine.
 
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Re: Distributed servers?

2011-08-25 Thread Billy Cravens

These days I'm all about letting someone else manage my data. That of course
carries with it the questions of whether or not you can trust others with it


I'm looking at Amazon's RDS. If you set up multiple availability zones, it
automatically replicates and fails over. No DNS changes needed. (Plus they
handle backups, etc) I know the MySQL version offers this - not sure about
the Oracle flavor. (No SQL Server however)

I believe SQL Server Azure provides this functionality.


Billy Cravens



On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Al Musella, DPM
muse...@virtualtrials.comwrote:


 Hi
  I am getting a little worried about this hurricane.. we were just
 told to evacuate on Saturday..
  I have my server in my office.  The website runs a brain cancer
 registry with pretty important database stuff. More valuable than money:)

 How would you approach setting up a redundant server across the
 country so if my town gets wiped out, we still have access to the website?
 The problem would be:
  keeping the databases synched
  DNS stuff:  how to set up DNS so that if my main server goes down,
 people are directed to the backup website and when the server is back
 up, the dns reverts back to the main site?

 I use MS SQL server for the database.  It is not a high volume of
 transactions per day - but they are kind of important.

 thanks
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Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Billy Cravens

dotnetrocks.com - I presume it'll be posted on the site around the mid-September

Billy Cravens

What podcast is it so we can all listen :)

Paul

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Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-24 Thread Billy Cravens

In my preliminary conversations with the hosts, that already was mentioned:
the idea that CF has a rich history, not so much a nanny-nanny-boo-boo we're 
older than the language you do :-)
I think the interest is that had things gone a little different, a .NET 
developer would be writing aspquery tags today :)

That said, CF was referred to as a blast from the past on a prior show, which 
led me to contact Carl and Richard - so we'll definitely be focusing on CF in 
2011, not history. 


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On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Mike Chabot wrote:

 
 Billy,
 I wish you well with the podcast. I listen to DotNetRocks all the time.
 
 On the specific question you asked, I would recommend not bringing up that
 topic at all because of the points Dave mentioned, and also because most
 .NET programmers would not care about an ancient business transaction that
 never happened.
 
 The topic of the conversation seems interesting. If you would like feedback
 on what you were thinking of talking about, go ahead and post it to the list
 (maybe a different thread though).
 
 -Mike Chabot
 
 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 dotnetrocks.com - I presume it'll be posted on the site around the
 mid-September
 
 Billy Cravens
 
 What podcast is it so we can all listen :)
 
 Paul
 
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Re: (ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-23 Thread Billy Cravens

Thanks Dave. I guess authoritative isn't the correct word, as much as I'm 
looking for details (who, when, etc). Probably won't be that big a deal, since 
the focus of the talk is why .NET developers should care about CF, but I like 
to be prepared, since I'll definitely bring predating ASP. :-)

 
 I don't think you're going to find a more authoritative source for 
 the
 acquisition attempt than Jeremy Allaire and Adam Berrey. The other
 information is accurate as well, as I remember it. I tried out dbWeb,
 and it wasn't as good as CF 1.5. Microsoft did acquire Aspect,
 released DBWeb, then dumped it for ASP 1.0 (I don't know anything
 about the ASP 1.0 codebase coming from i-Whatever).
 
 Oddly enough, there's still dbWeb documentation on the MS support 
 site:
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/155412
 
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 http://www.figleaf.com/
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(ot) Need info on attempted acquisition by MS in 1995

2011-08-22 Thread Billy Cravens

I'm scheduled to talk CF on a pretty big .NET podcast, and one thing that will 
likely come up is the idea that CF predates ASP, and likely the subject of the 
attempted acquisition of Allaire back in the day will come up. Does anyone know 
anything solid about this? I want to make sure I sound half-way knowledgeable, 
and the best I've come up with are:

http://www.tophosts.com/articles/?3016.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20031204233900/http://meet-the-makers.com/conversations/allaire/

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Macromedia.com

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

haha - I love it!  Though I think cf-conspiracy may work as well - seems
like half the posts nowadays are about everything that MM does wrong, and
how they are conspiring against CF developers

- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Macromedia.com


 I get the impression the time has come for a new mailinglist: cf-FUD.
 Opens a whole new range of advertisement possibilities. I imagine a
 typical message on cf-FUD would look something like this:

   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Macromedia.com
  
   MicroMedia
   Big rumors abound in Macromedia land... word is the company is in dire
   straights and that discussions between Macromedia and Microsoft are in
   the works. Acquisition? Possibly... probably just Flash, DreamWeaver,
   and UltraDev -- and in the meanwhile, kill off MS ASP competitor (not
   really) ColdFusion. Who knows about FreeHand and Director... Layoffs
   imminent.
   When: 1/30/2002
   Company: Macromedia
   -
   This message is sponsored by insert favourite b*llsh*t company.
   Visual Studio, the only RAD tool nobody got fired for buying.
   other company, the number one place to host ASP.NET applications.
   -
   cf-FUD: because you *need* the latest Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!!!

 How about it Michael?

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Re: Macromedia.com

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

This definitely needs to be updated for a comparison with .NET (particularly
ASP.NET).  I think the comparisons that are out there compare CF 4.0 to ASP
2, which is horribly out of date (should compare CF 5.0 to ASP 3 and
ASP.NET)  Of course, I know this may go against the current bandwagon of
saying we will support .NET that everyone and their dog seems to do
nowadays - I think .NET is a solid platform, but I want to see true
alternatives (On a side note - I've heard that MM will support .NET - how
on earth can you be a true J2EE engine but still have support for the .NET
CLR?)

- Original Message -
From: Earl, George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I never saw it hit the list . . .

 Jeremy,

 I'd like to see a really nice section at the re-built site that answers
the
 CF vs. ASP and who's using CF type questions that we all get asked so
often.

 When I get these kinds of questions, or when someone asks me to explain
why
 I think we should go with CF instead of a competing product, I'd like to
be
 able to go right to Macromedia and pull up a few pages with all the
 ammunition I need to support my recommendation. It should be front and
 center off the main page where I can't miss it. It should be built using
the
 very tools I am recommending and it should showcase what can be done with
 those tools.

 In addition to the other stuff, I'd also like to see included in these
pages
 a list of sites, companies and organizations that are using CF, with
 particular emphasis on large organizations (it's interesting how much
 credibility CF gains when people hear who's already using it).

 I know some of this stuff is already there, or at least it was at the
 Allaire site, but it isn't the easiest thing to find and it is scattered
 around. I think pulling it together in one place, making it very visible,
 and keeping it up to date would pay big dividends.

 George
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremy Allaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 16:08
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Macromedia.com
 
 
  Hi-
 
  ... snipped ...
 
  We're also taking the coming months to re-build the site from
  scratch on our
  next releases of ColdFusion, Flash and Dreamweaver.
 
  We'd love your feedback on features for the site.
 
  Thanks,
 
 
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Re: Macromedia.com

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

Eliminate all of the competition?  As much as I like CF, it's hardly *all*
the competition.  There's still Perl, J2EE, PHP, et al.

cf_hypothesize scenario=MS buys MM
Most of MM's products have competitors (ie, Adobe), and most of their
products are not competing with MS (except for their IDE and application
servers).  I think it would be reasonable that the only way the acquisition
would be approved is if MM spun off their application server and accompaning
editor line.
/cf_hypothesize

- Original Message -
From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:24 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 As I said, I doubt very much if they would get away with it, if it were
 true.  reminds me of M$ and Quicken... it would eliminate all the
 competition!  Also, I am sure MM could get backing from anywhere.

 
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CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

Of course they aren't.  However, I don't MS should be the standard that MM
uses to measure themselves against.  If it's true J2EE, it should be
portable across all J2EE platforms.  Of course, you'll notice that they in
the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of
J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial products -
even though there are a number of open-source J2EE products that are fully
compliant).  I doubt that CF6 will be true J2EE, which is rather
unfortunate.  I've never gotten a straight answer as to how they can support
things like CFObject yet still be compliant.  Sun sued (and won) Microsoft
for bastardizing the Java spec.  Hmm.

- Original Message -
From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:09 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 On a side note - I've heard that MM will support .NET - how
 on earth can you be a true J2EE engine but still have support for the .NET
 CLR?)

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CF and .NET (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

That is possible.  Of course, this is one of those what is .NET questions.
Even Microsoft can't give you can answer that isn't confusing.  .NET really
is many things, though many (including myself) tend to use .NET as a noun
to describe something discreet.  To me, .NET means the CLR, though there's
obviously some flaw in that logic.  A true .NET service will simply be a
SOAP method/property, which you can actually use now (and other proprietary
services like Passport have COM interfaces).  Though I wouldn't mind seeing
a tag like this:

cfdotnet type=method class=system.something.something
input=#myCFvariable#
output=dotNetResult
cfoutput#dotNetResult#/cfoutput

Hmm.. that got me thinking ... is the CLR available to CFX tags if the
framework is installed on the server?  Any hard-core CFX developers looked
into this?

- Original Message -
From: Benjamin S. Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:14 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 If I recall, ColdFusion support for .Net did not include running on the
 CLR but support for things like .Net services. Perhaps
 interoperability would be a more accurate word to describe
 Macromedia's proposed support for .Net.

 Benjamin S. Rogers
 http://www.c4.net/
 v.508.240.0051
 f.508.240.0057

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:50 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 MM could support .NET with a CFML language module that conforms to MS
 CLS - and make it commercially avaialable - right?

 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Macromedia.com


 This definitely needs to be updated for a comparison with .NET
 (particularly ASP.NET).  I think the comparisons that are out there
 compare CF 4.0 to ASP 2, which is horribly out of date (should compare
 CF 5.0 to ASP 3 and
 ASP.NET)  Of course, I know this may go against the current bandwagon of
 saying we will support .NET that everyone and their dog seems to do
 nowadays - I think .NET is a solid platform, but I want to see true
 alternatives (On a side note - I've heard that MM will support .NET -
 how on earth can you be a true J2EE engine but still have support for
 the .NET
 CLR?)

 - Original Message -
 From: Earl, George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:39 AM
 Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


  Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I never saw it hit the list . . .
 
  Jeremy,
 
  I'd like to see a really nice section at the re-built site that
  answers
 the
  CF vs. ASP and who's using CF type questions that we all get asked so
 often.
 
  When I get these kinds of questions, or when someone asks me to
  explain
 why
  I think we should go with CF instead of a competing product, I'd like
  to
 be
  able to go right to Macromedia and pull up a few pages with all the
  ammunition I need to support my recommendation. It should be front and

  center off the main page where I can't miss it. It should be built
  using
 the
  very tools I am recommending and it should showcase what can be done
  with those tools.
 
  In addition to the other stuff, I'd also like to see included in these
 pages
  a list of sites, companies and organizations that are using CF, with
  particular emphasis on large organizations (it's interesting how much
  credibility CF gains when people hear who's already using it).
 
  I know some of this stuff is already there, or at least it was at the
  Allaire site, but it isn't the easiest thing to find and it is
  scattered around. I think pulling it together in one place, making it
  very visible, and keeping it up to date would pay big dividends.
 
  George
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeremy Allaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 16:08
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Macromedia.com
  
  
   Hi-
  
   ... snipped ...
  
   We're also taking the coming months to re-build the site from
   scratch on our next releases of ColdFusion, Flash and Dreamweaver.
  
   We'd love your feedback on features for the site.
  
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Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

I would agree, and would hate to see many of those features go away.
However, many of the marketing claims I've heard is that you can put the
generated class files on any supported J2EE engine and they'll run.  In
other words, they make it sound as if I can take my class files generated on
a Win32 box and move them anywhere I want - even on a machine without CF.  I
simply cannot see how this is true.  Maybe I'm a bit too caught up in the
whole truth in advertising thing.  :-)  (Of course, they're not really
advertising - more like a buzz-word-orama festival)


- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: CF6  true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)


  If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE
  platforms. Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial
  public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of
  J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial
  products - even though there are a number of open-source J2EE
  products that are fully compliant). I doubt that CF6 will be
  true J2EE, which is rather unfortunate.

 I think you're reading too much into this. I suspect that it will, in
fact,
 be portable, and that will a little tweaking, you'll be able to get it
 running on Tomcat/Jakarta. However, there are enough implementation
details,
 such as how installers work, which strike me as potentially complex. As
for
 their support of commercial platforms first, that makes perfect sense to
me
 - they can take advantage of IBM and BEA for setup support and development
 issues, rather than doing all the work themselves.

  I've never gotten a straight answer as to how they can
  support things like CFObject yet still be compliant. Sun
  sued (and won) Microsoft for bastardizing the Java spec.

 J2EE compliance doesn't mean that you can't implement additional features.
 Every commercial J2EE server does this - there's stuff in BEA WebLogic
that
 facilitates Tuxedo connectivity, I think. J2EE compliance simply means
that
 all of the stuff within the J2EE specification has been implemented.

 The comparison with Microsoft is flawed - Microsoft was sued by Sun over
the
 fact that they built platform-specific features into the Java language
 itself - into the VM and compiler. There's nothing to stop a vendor from
 building functionality into a Java application beyond what Java itself
 provides - that's the purpose behind native interfaces like JNI.

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Re: Macromedia.com

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

Undoubtedly it will change.  Will it go away?  As long as it's profitable, I
doubt it.  However, I continually ask myself, if [insert technology here]
disappeared tomorrow, could I feed my family?  I may like one language or
technology more than others, but I'll be damned if I'll bet my (and others
that depend on me) well-being on some company's (who's goal is profit, not
my well-being) product.


- Original Message -
From: Cantrell, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:15 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 Even if the rumor is true or not, we can't kid ourselves into thinking
 ColdFusion will be around for much longer in it's current state. It's
 governed by a company that's core product is a plugin to display moving
 vector graphics. Granted, they have other products, I personally use
 fireworks as an alternative to photoshop. That's all great, but we can't
 expect them to churn out and maintain a solid, server-side scripting
engine,
 capable of competing with it's FREE alternatives - for much longer. It's
 simply out of their scope.

 At first, I want to say release it to the public, and charge for studio
 licenses, but then I look at the linux operating system, and that blows
 that whole idea out of the water (not trying to offend any hardcore linux
 advocates out there). There has to be some viable solution to preserve
this
 tool without worrying about its parent's control over its existence. I can
 live with having to develop in PHP, ASP.NET, or even the dreaded J2EE
(VM
 - blech), but I just don't want to. Cold Fusion makes it easy for me to
hack
 something together in a day and please the boss or whoever it is I'm
 developing for, which is great - work smarter not harder right? It's
solid
 (if you know all the little gotchas), and it's clean. There's just that
one
 big, dark cloud hovering above us all that quietly chants I may not be
here
 for you in a year, I may suddenly abandon you, your work will mean nothing
 then, you will have wasted 4 years living with me, I am the ghost of
 Macromedia Future.

 Am I just crazy, or is anyone else in the same boat as I?

 Adam.

 ps. I'm not trying to sound like one of those the end is near
 fearmongerers, I just want to see if I'm the only one that feels this way.



 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Priest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 MicroMedia
 Big rumors abound in Macromedia land... word is the company is in dire
 straights and that discussions between Macromedia and Microsoft are in
 the works. Acquisition? Possibly... probably just Flash, DreamWeaver,
 and UltraDev -- and in the meanwhile, kill off MS ASP competitor (not
 really) ColdFusion. Who knows about FreeHand and Director... Layoffs
 imminent.
 When: 1/30/2002
 Company: Macromedia

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Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

Then why is there an Apache module?

- Original Message -
From: Zac Belado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: CF6  true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)


  Of course, you'll notice that they in
  the initial public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set
of
  J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial
products -
  even though there are a number of open-source J2EE products that are
fully
  compliant).

 Not interesting at all. MM supports commercial J2EE engines because
those
 app servers have existing support plans in place.

 That is why Red Hat was the first Linux platform supported. MM doesn't
want
 to, quite rightly,  have to spend resources providing support for other
 products.
 
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Re: Protecting Content

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

CFHttp doesn't like anything other than ASCII content.  Perhaps you can do a
raw grab (probably require a COM object or CFX - there's bound to be
something on the tag gallery) as opposed to cfhttp - then I think it'd be
easy to use CFContent to deliver the goods.

- Original Message -
From: Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: Protecting Content


 Hello,

 We want to put a flash application on one server to deliver news items in
a
 flash environment.  I want to be able to grab that from an application on
 another server, but I don't want to divulge to the end user the source of
 the .swf file.  So, I'd want to do something like grab the .swf via cfhttp
 and deliver it via cfcontent or something like that.  Any suggestions.  My
 efforts have failed so far.

 Dave


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Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

So was the RedHat support issue, so that means there's no evidence of MM
only providing their products for supported platforms.  Even at that, I
don't think RedHat compatibility had anything to do with support - you only
get support if you pay for it.  I assume that the majority of RedHat
installs out there aren't paid for.

However, you're probably right - or perhaps they received some pressure from
some of the J2EE vendors, who knew that CF6 would generate additional J2EE
opportunities that they didn't want to lose to Jakarta and the like.  Or
most likely, they want to push JRun sales - if you can only run Neo on
certain J2EE engines, you might as well go with JRun, right?  (If memory
serves me correct, can't CF6 run by itself? I hope so.  Otherwise the cost
of CF6 goes way up.)

- Original Message -
From: Zac Belado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: CF6  true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)


  Then why is there an Apache module?

 User demand? Besides, that was produced by Allaire not Macromedia.
 
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Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

If that's the case, so be it.  However, I know some of the early stuff I
heard (I distinctly remember this coming from Forta early last year at our
CFUG meeting) is that it will be truly portable, as with most J2EE
implementations.  I find this rather disappointing, because other than some
performance gains, it doesn't appear that CF will be changing much (so much
for sales to those who have already made significant J2EE investments across
the enterprise).  Though from MM's point of view, it makes perfect sense
(ensures licensing).

- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: CF6  true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)


   In other words, they make it sound as if I can take my
   class files generated on a Win32 box and move them anywhere
   I want - even on a machine without CF.
 
  If the CF code is compiled to Java byte-code, this would
  certainly be possible.

 Well, not really, I don't think. There will be dependencies in that
 bytecode, and those dependencies will point to a set of libraries, and
those
 libraries will essentially be Neo.

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Re: Protecting Content

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

duh - I was merely thinking of output.  I'll go sit in the stupid corner
now.

- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: Protecting Content


  CFHttp doesn't like anything other than ASCII content.
  Perhaps you can do a raw grab (probably require a COM
  object or CFX - there's bound to be something on the
  tag gallery) as opposed to cfhttp - then I think it'd
  be easy to use CFContent to deliver the goods.

 I think you can use CFHTTP to retrieve any sort of file you like; you'll
 have to use the PATH and maybe the FILE attribute to save it to the
 filesystem, though, rather than referencing CFHTTP.FileContent.

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Re: CF6 true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

That's the idea - but the reality is that if you sell someone a liscense to
your app server, you wouldn't want them to use your app server to develop an
app and then distribute it to run on competitor's app servers.  So I think
the dream of cross-compatible applications is at odds with making a profit.

Adding proprietary extensions - even though it's not exactly the same as
what MS did, it seems philosophically the same to me.

- Original Message -
From: Cantrell, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: CF6  true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)


 You are correct in the eyes of SUN's marketing department. If the term,
 write once, run anywhere were to hold true, it wouldn't matter whether
 Joe the J2EE Guy wrote the code, or whether it was autmagically created
by
 a set of NEO templates - it's all java right? And since it's java,
 technically you should be able to run it in any J2EE compliant
environment.

 Do I have the wrong idea? Is the term, write once, run anywhere, still a
 valid adjective to associate with Java, or has that become the running
joke
 in the community? I've of course heard the term write once, debug
 everywhere thrown around, so obviously some people have some issues with
 Sun's claims - maybe just incompetent programmers?

 The only reason I'm still afraid of Java is because I still associate it
 with the Applet hype from the mid 90's. It turned into a huge
 disappointment, and I feel like Sun simply tried to recoup some of their
 marketing dollars by turning it into a server-side scripting technology.
Now
 EVERYONE is writing their enterprise-level systems on the same
technology
 that was used to design those slow, crummy Water Reflection applets from
 the mid 90's. Is this a good thing?



  -Original Message-
  From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:32 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CF6  true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
 
 
  I would agree, and would hate to see many of those features go away.
  However, many of the marketing claims I've heard is that you
  can put the
  generated class files on any supported J2EE engine and
  they'll run.  In
  other words, they make it sound as if I can take my class
  files generated on
  a Win32 box and move them anywhere I want - even on a machine
  without CF.  I
  simply cannot see how this is true.  Maybe I'm a bit too
  caught up in the
  whole truth in advertising thing.  :-)  (Of course, they're not really
  advertising - more like a buzz-word-orama festival)
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: CF6  true J2EE Compliance (was Re: Macromedia.com)
 
 
If it's true J2EE, it should be portable across all J2EE
platforms. Of course, you'll notice that they in the initial
public Neo info that they are only supporting a limited set of
J2EE engines (interestingly enough, all of them are commercial
products - even though there are a number of open-source J2EE
products that are fully compliant). I doubt that CF6 will be
true J2EE, which is rather unfortunate.
  
   I think you're reading too much into this. I suspect that
  it will, in
  fact,
   be portable, and that will a little tweaking, you'll be
  able to get it
   running on Tomcat/Jakarta. However, there are enough implementation
  details,
   such as how installers work, which strike me as potentially
  complex. As
  for
   their support of commercial platforms first, that makes
  perfect sense to
  me
   - they can take advantage of IBM and BEA for setup support
  and development
   issues, rather than doing all the work themselves.
  
I've never gotten a straight answer as to how they can
support things like CFObject yet still be compliant. Sun
sued (and won) Microsoft for bastardizing the Java spec.
  
   J2EE compliance doesn't mean that you can't implement
  additional features.
   Every commercial J2EE server does this - there's stuff in
  BEA WebLogic
  that
   facilitates Tuxedo connectivity, I think. J2EE compliance
  simply means
  that
   all of the stuff within the J2EE specification has been implemented.
  
   The comparison with Microsoft is flawed - Microsoft was
  sued by Sun over
  the
   fact that they built platform-specific features into the
  Java language
   itself - into the VM and compiler. There's nothing to stop
  a vendor from
   building functionality into a Java application beyond what
  Java itself
   provides - that's the purpose behind native interfaces like JNI.
  
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   http://www.figleaf.com/
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   fax: (202) 797-5444
  
 
 
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Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1?

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

No - but you should be able to set up multiple mappings.  However, you can
run multiple instances of your OS using VMWare (if your OS is supported) -
just run CF on each instance

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1?


 Can you install two instances of CF Server on the same UNIX machine?
 I want to move our Development environment from machine A to machine B
 which is also where our Staging/Testing environment lives so that I can
 install CF Server 5 on machine A.
 This means I need two instances on the same machine, one for each web
 site environment so that INCLUDE mappings work correctly for absolute
 paths as files are moved from environment to environment.

 If you know if this can be done and how and can help, I'd appreciate it!

 -
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 Lattice Semiconductor Corp.
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Re: Macromedia.com

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

Look at the source - Yahoo is merely referencing FC, which deals in rumors -
if the rumor is a year old, then that's what Yahoo is indirectly
referencing - sure would be a shame if a site that ppl consider remotely
credible would verify information - news in Internet time is probably the
death of journalistic integrity

- Original Message -
From: Tom Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 This is not a one year old rumor. It was posted today at
 http://finance.yahoo.com/mp#macr and quite a few shares were BOUGHT in
 speculation of the MS involvement.

 Tom



 At 05:12 PM 1/30/02, you wrote:
 Tom, take a look at Matt Brown's previous response to this (below).
 
 Christine
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:30 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Macromedia.com
 
 
 
  Doubt its true, if you look at the comments on fuckedcompany on the
story
  some of them refer to a rumour in a yahoo newsgroup. Probably someone
 trying
  to influence share prices
 
 First. Great that you posted here. When you hear things like that you
 deserve to get some answer from MM. Thank you.
 
 This is an old rumor. A month old at least. I heard it before we
announced
 our earnings when our stock spiked pretty well. I think that this
 hypothesis, that it was an attempt at manipulation, is correct.
 
 Macromedia, like all web based companies and software companies is facing
 challenges in this market. On the other hand, we have had our layoffs
 already. We have superior products in the pipeline. The overall economy
is
 looking quite a bit better. I personally, after 6 years at MM, feel that
we
 are more focused and more productive and more excited than we ever have
 been. I am working on projects that are going to make you all very happy
 over time and I think that is the future of MM, not as a subsidiary of
MS.
 
 Macromedia is very well positioned for the time being. While I have no
 insight into the sales figures or the business. I am very confident that
CF
 is doing well and that it will continue to do so for some time.
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 Manager
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Re: CF and Webserver (OT)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

You'll need to have DNS entries set up for it, and then setup a new website
in IIS - if it's sharing IP addresses, assign it a customer header (where
you see the ip address. click Advanced) that points to
xxx.www.somedomain.tld

- Original Message -
From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:47 PM
Subject: CF and Webserver (OT)


 Hi All,

 I am new to setting up new websites in IIS (on a win2k server) and was
 wondering if I could get some help with the following.

 I have a server that is on our network that is deignated as
 web9.alfred.edu.
 Now web9 is a test server and I want to add another website, so that the
 url reads yyy.web9.alfred.edu  ... is this possible?  Right now the only
 website defined is the default. This machine is running win2k server, CF
 5 Server, and SQL server it is one of our new test servers. Any
 advice?

 If this doesnt belong on the list, please email me off list with any
 help. Much appreciated.

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Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1?

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

VMWare.com - allows you to run multiple OS's on the same machine
concurrently

But it sounds like an architecture issue - you didn't use hard-code absolute
paths, did you?  naughty, naughty :-)

You should be able to run multiple virtual web servers though - like
someserver1.something.tld is mapped to one directory (say,
/usr/html/someserver1) and someserver2.something.tld is mapped to a
different directory (/usr/html/someserver2) - look at your web server docs

Or set up a CF mapping (look in CF administrator)

- Original Message -
From: Bruce Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1?


 What is VMWare?

 Using multiple mappings doesn't work.  There can be only one web root /.
 This means the other web server has to change paths for every INCLUDE.

 Bruce

 - Original Message -
 From: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Multiple Instances of CF Server 4.5.1?


  No - but you should be able to set up multiple mappings.  However, you
can
  run multiple instances of your OS using VMWare (if your OS is
supported) -
  just run CF on each instance
 

 
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Re: OT (was: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

did you mean to post this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?since you
obviously only want dave to respond  :-)

- Original Message -
From: Julia Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: OT (was: Macromedia.com)


 Hi Dave...

 I am trying to get an email to work only showing checkbox output from a
 form...somehow it doesn't work or I don't get the email when I add the
 code for the checkboxes...could you tell me how to do this in cfmail?
 It's for the Reich for Governor campaign...

 Please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Julia Computer Consulting

 CFINSERT DATASOURCE=jgrn123 TABLENAME=Email5
 html
 head
 titleThank you for volunteering with the Reich Campaign!
 /title/head
 body
 h2Thank you for volunteering with us!/h2br
 h2The results of your form are as follows:/h2

 cfoutput
 font size=+1
 Full Name: #txtFirstName# #txtLastName#br
 Address:br
 #txtAddress1#br
 #txtAddress2#br
 #txtCity#  #txtState# #txtZip#br
 brPhone Number: #txtPhone#
 brEmail: #txtEmail#
 brComments: #txtComments#
 brbr
 Additional Information:br
 On Email List?  #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_E), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brWould like to Contribute Now:  #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_M),
 DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brYour Vote for Reich?: #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_V), DE('Yes'),
 DE('No'))#
 brWould like to Contribute Sometime:
 #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_T), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brReception or House Party:  #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_HP),
 DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brArrange to Attend or Speak at an Event:
 #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_S), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brA Business that can offer resources?:
 #IIf(isdefined(form.chkVol_CORP), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brAdditional Information for Volunteering:br
 brPolitical Organizing?:  #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_PolOrg),
 DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brCampus Organizing?:   #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Student),
 DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brExpertise in Specific Issues?:
 #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Issues), DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brComputer Expertise?:   #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Technology),
 DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brGeneral Communications, Media:  #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_PR),
 DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brFundraising, Development:   #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_FR),
 DE('Yes'), DE('No'))#
 brScheduling:   #IIf(isdefined(form.chkExp_Sched), DE('Yes'),
 DE('No'))#
 /cfoutput

 CFMAIL TO= #Form.txtEmail#
  FROM= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SUBJECT= Thank you for choosing Bob Reich for Governor!

 Thank you so much for supporting Bob Reich's campaign for Governor.
 Email Julia Green at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if
 you wish to be taken off our list at any time.  If you are a volunteer,
 our headquarters
 is located at 625 Mount Auburn Street, near the Star Market in
 Cambridge.  We are open from 9 am to
 9 pm Monday through Saturday, and 11 am to 6 pm on Sundays.  We are a
 bus ride away from
 Harvard Square and parking is readily available in the back of the
 building.

 If you are on our email list, we will inform you regularly of campaign
 updates.

 Bob Reich for the future of Massachusetts!

 Here are the results of your form...


 We look forward to seeing you at our side in an exciting political
 season.

 Bob Reich for Governor

 /CFMAIL
 /body
 /html
 --- Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   You're Right! After 56 posts regarding this topic in the last
   3 days, let's just move it to a different board so fewer people
   are exposed to it. That should help - but first
 
  Gee, I hadn't noticed that number of posts over that number of days,
  myself.
  I thought this thread started today.
 
  As for how many people are exposed to it, I could give a rat's ass.
  It's
  not a virus. However, what I do care about, at least to some degree,
  is that
  it be put in its proper place. I tend to limit my posts to technical
  issues
  on this list - please don't bother pointing out exceptions, because
  they ARE
  exceptions - because this isn't the place for non-technical posts.
  For all I
  know, there may be more people subscribed to cf-community - but I'm
  not one
  of them, because I'm not interested in discussing non-technical
  issues
  enough to bother.
 
   11:10AM Macromedia layoff/takeover rumors (MACR) 17.80 -0.20:
   Website f@#!ckedcompany.com, known best for its accurate layoff
   rumors, reports today that layoffs are imminent at MACR, but
   also notes unsubstantiated rumors that the company is in
   discussions with Microsoft (MSFT), hinting at a sale of all
   or part of the company.
  
   What Could This Mean???
 
  It Could Mean That It's An Accurate Rumor. Or, It Could Mean That
  It's An
  Inaccurate Rumor. Funny Thing Is, This Rumor Has Been Posted In The
  Past,
  Almost Verbatim - I Remember When MS First Released ASP, And Everyone
  Thought That CF Was Toast. And Yet, Here I Am Writing CF Instead.
  Now, If I
  Have To, I Can Switch To .NET Or J2EE, But While CF Is Here, I'll
  Take
  Advantage Of It.
 
  That's 

Re: OT/bandwidth waste (was:Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

Cool!  The thread branches yet again!
I wonder what the record is?

- Original Message -
From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: OT/bandwidth waste (was:Macromedia.com)


Is CF Dead, no, but it is dying.
 
   Please explain this statement
 
  Please don't.
 
  We waste enough bandwidth with these inane CF is dead Macromedia is
 dead
  posts.

 Don't want to add to the flying tangents, but IMHO the amount
 of bandwidth wasted all the time on this list from people not
 editing out the last X included posts in their replies puts every
 other waste in the shade.

 It's a great list, but when I first peeked in, I thought I'd sample
 the digest, and left very quickly cos it was so hard to scan
 for 'original' posts. Took a while to come back to see if it was
 worth it. It was, but more editing please! :)

 - Gyrus

 
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Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

Fair can only be defined by your experience level, the quality of your work,
and costs of living.

When I was in college, I worked for minimum wage ($5.25 an hour at that
point, I believe).  That's how it is in college - you work dirt cheap.
Typically wages are determined by the higher-ups in the school (Dean level
or higher).  I seriously doubt they'll be swayed by some mailing list that
the public can contribute to.

If it weren't for poor college students, would they bring in someone at
full price?  I doubt it.  Also, suck it up and ignore the $$ factor:
you're in college, and unless you had significant experience before school,
the college job is your best shot at getting experience.  You need the
experience far more than you need the $$$; consider that unless things
improve dramatically, when you graduate, you'll be competing with developers
with years of *real-world* experience.

Considering the state of the economy, I know many developers who'd be happy
to make what you're making - $6/hour beats being unemployed.

I would suggest that we all take a look at the CF-Talk guidelines
(http://www.houseoffusion.com/hof/lists/faq.htm).  Keep in mind that
discussion of prices among peers in a public forum constitutes price
fixing - this places the operators of this list (Dinowitz and company) at
risk.

- Original Message -
From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:11 AM
Subject: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees


 Hello Everyone,

 Can I get everyones opinion on something here...
 Here at the University, student workers make no more than $6.00/hour
 regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for someone
 who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a daily
 basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who trains
 staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I work
 about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load semester and
 am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers to
 back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have.

 Thanks,

 Mike

 PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk.

 
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Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

Yeah, but it's pretty hard to do that and maintain an 18 hour load in school
(if you were lucky enough to find a place that would hire a full-time
college student and pay them market)

Also, there's something to be said for sticking it out - it's by no means a
rule, but some companies don't like job hoppers (even though the situation
was well justified - some hiring manager are too dense to see between the
lines of your resume)

- Original Message -
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees


 Yes, it's easy to quit and get a job that pays at the very least 3 times
 as much. You are worth what you are paid. You being paid $6/hr tells
 future employers that you are inexperienced, desperate, or easily
 taken advantage of.

 On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:

  Id rather attempt to get a new pay rate than to just quit..its easy to
qu
 it,
  its not as easy to get what you believe in... it takes work, that is why
 I
  polled the list for thoughts on rates.
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees
 
 
   If you don't like it quit. Why do you have to work at the university?
  
  
   On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
  
Hello Everyone,
   
Can I get everyones opinion on something here...
Here at the University, student workers make no more than $6.00/hour
regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for
some
 one
  
who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a
da
 ily
  
basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who trains
staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I
work
about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load semester
a
 nd
  
am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers
to
back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have.
   
Thanks,
   
Mike
   
PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk.
   
   
  
 
 
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Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

I'd agree.  It sounds like a decent gig for college (I would have loved this
when I was in school, far more than working for a record store or any other
typical college job).  However, you might want to look to some other
resources - economics for a student working for the college are
significantly different than a seasoned developer working in the private
sector.  I think the closest match would be the non-profit market sector.


- Original Message -
From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees


 Id rather attempt to get a new pay rate than to just quit..its easy to
quit,
 its not as easy to get what you believe in... it takes work, that is why I
 polled the list for thoughts on rates.




 - Original Message -
 From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees


  If you don't like it quit. Why do you have to work at the university?
 
 
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
 
   Hello Everyone,
  
   Can I get everyones opinion on something here...
   Here at the University, student workers make no more than $6.00/hour
   regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for
someone
 
   who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a
daily
 
   basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who trains
   staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I work
   about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load semester
and
 
   am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers to
   back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Mike
  
   PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk.
  
  
 
 
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Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

Are you willing to leave school to do that?  Plus, internships usually come
out of special budgets.  My experience has shown that internships are more
like contract positions than full-time in terms of rate.  Not to mention the
fact that internships are for college students only - otherwise, you're
competing with the world (and right now, I know alot of top-notch
programmers out of work)



- Original Message -
From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees


 good point...
 but this job is a great reference for me.. in your opinion, how does that
 play in?
 I have had 2 great intenrships..one in DC and one in NYC that both paid
 $25/hr.
 Thsoe we each summer jobs, this webteam job has been mine for 4
years..what
 if I lose the reference?  Im new to the finding a full time  job game  :-)
 so any advice is greatly appreciated.


 - Original Message -
 From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:49 PM
 Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees


  Yes, it's easy to quit and get a job that pays at the very least 3 times
  as much. You are worth what you are paid. You being paid $6/hr tells
  future employers that you are inexperienced, desperate, or easily
  taken advantage of.
 
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
 
   Id rather attempt to get a new pay rate than to just quit..its easy to
 qu
  it,
   its not as easy to get what you believe in... it takes work, that is
why
  I
   polled the list for thoughts on rates.
  
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:50 AM
   Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees
  
  
If you don't like it quit. Why do you have to work at the
university?
   
   
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
   
 Hello Everyone,

 Can I get everyones opinion on something here...
 Here at the University, student workers make no more than
$6.00/hour
 regardless of type of work. What do you think is a fair wage for
 some
  one
   
 who learns Cold Fusion on the job and applies it at their job on a
 da
  ily
   
 basis. Also, what do you think a fair wage is for someone who
trains
 staff on basic CF, SQL, and server management stuff? Right now I
 work
 about 25 hours a week at $6/hr and take 18 credit load
semester
 a
  nd
   
 am frankly working to change a few things, but I need some numbers
 to
 back me up so I am looking for any averages or thoughts you have.

 Thanks,

 Mike

 PS--- Sorry for the off topic post on CF-Talk.


   
  
 
 
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Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

I agree - but what a seasoned, full-time (40 hours if you're lucky, probably
more) developer is worth is not the same as what a college student taking an
18 hour semester load is worth - totally different set of dynamics

- Original Message -
From: Kreig Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Slightly OT - CF and Developers Fees


 There's no point in getting paid less than you're worth.

 References are anyone you know who knows your work/you've worked with in a
 professional setting.  Don't get hung up on them, especially for $6/hr.

 For that money, you could work in a record store and have a helluva lot
more
 fun!

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  good point...
  but this job is a great reference for me.. in your opinion, how does
that
  play in?
  I have had 2 great intenrships..one in DC and one in NYC that both paid
  $25/hr.
  Thsoe we each summer jobs, this webteam job has been mine for 4
 years..what
  if I lose the reference?  Im new to the finding a full time  job game
:-)
  so any advice is greatly appreciated.


 
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Re: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

I've used PVCS Version Manager (similar to VSS) with success in the past.
If you integrate it into Studio, it works pretty well.

- Original Message -
From: Jaye Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe


 Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
 Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?


 // Jaye Morris, Multimedia Designer
 
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Re: Final Check through

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

Well, there's entire books dedicated to web security, a few things Paul
didn't mention:
1) verify data type - if users are entering any freetext, make sure it's
valid (ie, isNumeric, is gt 0, etc)
2) client assumptions - make sure you aren't assuming things like JS or
Cookies, or if so, make sure you have the logic (programmatic or business)
to handle this - the main area I see this is not doing server-side
validation because it is assumed the client-side (JS) validation will catch
invalid entries
3) third-party integration - mainly in connecting to someone else over the
Internet (cf_ups, credit card processing) - how will your application behave
if someone else is down, etc?

- Original Message -
From: Michael Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:21 PM
Subject: Final Check through


 I know this may not be very good, but I want to make sure I do this right.
I am just about to go live with a site with the whole shopping cart thing,
Its all ready but it being my first cart I was wondering if anyone had any
final checks just to make sure...like security and dumb users.  I am pretty
sure I have gone over everything and had many people test it, It would just
be nice to lean on everyone and all your experience.

 thanks
 mike
 
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Re: OT - User Friendly?

2002-01-28 Thread Billy Cravens

Well, that's not an uncommon scenario.  Their idea will probably be for you
to design it, with unlimited revisions until they think it's friendly enough
(imagine if houses were built like this: the window looks ok there, but can
you move it over there?  oh, and this is covered by what I originally paid -
because the blueprint wasn't precise, it just said make it pretty)

This is why I'm a big fan of a multi-tiered project plan:
1) wireframe the app, agree on a set of functions
2) basic design
3) prototype the app, with all UI elements, but no tie-in the database -
some rough business logic in place, but not complete
4) complete the business logic and data tier
5) final signoff and implementation

Each one is a stage, and is considered a separate contract.  They're
sequential, so the client must sign off on one before moving to the next.  I
find this very useful in many ways, particulary in managing client
expectations, and for managing costs/timelines.  Of course, it doesn't
eliminate the problem of scope creep - but allows you to isolate it to make
it more manageable (in my experience)

Undeniably, the problem with blueprints in web development is that if we
came up with a true blueprint, it'd be the final product.  As such, we have
to work our contracts with some leeway built in (ie, 25 to do this, but an
additional 10 hours tacked on for review and revision).  Plus, we have to
better educate or clients - front end design isn't an exact science, but
rather an approximate art, even though clients want a concrete price.

- Original Message -
From: Mary Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:29 PM
Subject: OT - User Friendly?


 Has anyone had to come up with contract language that helps nail down the
 elusive term 'user friendly' in a fixed priced contract?  It is a point
 being negotiated at this time with a client. The quote has to be fixed
cost.
 The quote has to be done fast.  The client uses the term a lot in thier
 deliverable specifications. We are saying we would like to take the term
out
 because it is too vague.  They are asking us what the 'industry standard'
 wording for 'user friendly' is.  I say we need more design specifications.
 Sound familiar?

 Any thoughts and/or examples of language would be greatly appreciated.

 TIA,
 :)mary
 
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Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-28 Thread Billy Cravens

I thought Spectra was Ray's baby?

- Original Message -
From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...


 AFAIK, the Old Allaire site used Spectra to build its own site - well a
 version of it.  I think this was the original version of Spectra developed
 and coded by Jeremy himself.

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Re: UltraDev

2002-01-28 Thread Billy Cravens

Start - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs - Macromedia Ultradev?  j/k,
couldn't resist

I usually get a stiff drink, then start a random series of
CFOUTPUT's/CFABORT in UD's code view.  Things start going blurry, then I
realize I'm not really intoxicated, it's just a series of obscure cfscript
and MM_ variables.

- Original Message -
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: UltraDev


 I'd be curious to know how you'all debug.  I've tried the de-bugger, but I
 always come back to hand coding debug code and testing in a browser when
I'm
 doing something really complex.  Anyone?

 mark

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 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:14 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: UltraDev


 table
 tr
 tdyep, i'm with ya on that./td
 /tr
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RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens

On one note, I'd say that we should give Macromedia a break.  I know
that they have had some website and support issues, but they have
delivered a solid release of both Server and Studio.  Which is all you
can really expect, cuz for most of us, that's all we're really paying
for.  

I'm sure if you're not happy with how things are run, I'm sure they'd be
more than happy to sell you the division that produces ColdFusion.

However, as painful as a migration may be, how the hell do you turn off
production servers like that?  I'll echo the thoughts about staging
servers - if you know what you're doing, once everything's good, you
should be able to throw the switch (in theory) with little to no
downtime.  

Maybe they're using Sitespring to manage the conversion :P


-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

I try to go to the developer's download section and get this lovely
message:

Due to scheduled maintenance, certain areas of our website are
unavailable
at this time. These areas include Macromedia Membership, Free Trial
Downloads, the Macromedia Store, the Edge newsletter, the Showcase,
Events,
the Macromedia Flash, Dreamweaver, and UltraDev Exchanges, the
Developers
Exchange and Forums. You can use NNTP newsgroups instead of Forums until
our
maintenance is complete.

We apologize for the inconvenience and will be restoring service as soon
as
possible. If you've already made a download purchase, please return
after 6
pm PST on Sunday 1/27/02 to download your products.

Meanwhile, you can continue to browse the rest of our site. You can also
read about other ways to purchase Macromedia products or contact our
Customer Service Center.

Return to Macromedia home page.



OFFLINE FOR 2-3 DAYS? what in the world are these folks thinking?
Bring
the old site back please

-paris


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RE: Getting ASP Info into CF

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens

Even on the same box, CF can't talk to ASP's sessions.  Pass the session
vars from ASP to CF - WDDX would be nice, but you can do that conversion
on the CF side if you pass it as a list or whatever.  Then in CF, parse
the session var back into a CF session.  Passing back to ASP is easier -
just do a POST.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting ASP Info into CF

Question,
I have been tasked to get login information from an ASP page into a CF
application, and I am not sure how to go about this. I know that I can
get CF, by way of a com object, to talk to an ASP session, but this is
not a viable solution. Here is the scenario:

User logs into a site hosting an ASP login page, and they go about doing
whatever it is they want to do. At some point, they will click on a link
that brings in a CF application within an iframe. What I want is to be
able to capture that information into the CF application, check it
against the database that I have, and if they pass then they go on in.
Otherwise, they are required to re-authenticate. Also, at some point,
they may have to pass some CF information into an ASP application.
The problem is that these two applications are being hosted at two
separate companies, so the ASP app server and the CF app server are in
two separate locations. Is this doable?

Thanks,

_
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RE: Macromedia.com

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens

Haha - isn't it their ColdFusion as well?

-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 3:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com

Thanks Jeremy.. We all understand providers evaporating :)

Be sure to have Macromedia keep their Flash away from the Cold Fusion
section... and writing the Cold Fusion support site in something other
than
Cold Fusion defeats people's faith on the product.. so make it happen
with
the product...

We'll forgive the outage time... (given you are sure to address the
above 2
issues)...

-paris

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 16:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Macromedia.com


Hi-

I saw the post about a person having problems downloading something on
the
site.

We have a planned outage this and next weekends in order to switch
offsite
hosting providers -- our current provider went out of business.

We're also taking the coming months to re-build the site from scratch on
our
next releases of ColdFusion, Flash and Dreamweaver.

We'd love your feedback on features for the site.

Thanks,

Jeremy




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RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens

Haha - very true.  So what?  We pay so much for the developer's
exchange, we shouldn't be concerned with their implementation issues :0)

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

Bill Davidson wrote:

 They've been doing this long before Allaire was bought by Macromedia.
I
 never understood it.  A company of that size has got to have a back up
 server that they can stick up while they do their routine maintenance.


I am not sure if switching infrastructures qualifies as routine
maintenance.

Jochem

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RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens

Indeed.  The community drives technology: I've never seen MSDN or
SourceForge down for long, if at all.  Of course, when it was Allaire's
community, they didn't exactly provide a quality experience.  I can't
remember the number of times I'd seen their site down due to some
first-year CF error, or it was so slow that I just gave up and wrote the
code myself.  And there's no need to begin discussing the quality of
forums.allaire.com .

Of course, I don't necessarily agree with your analogies - the systems
you mentioned were core to the operation, not systems in support.  I do
get your point though.  However, if the success of ColdFusion (or any
other technology) is driven or dependent upon a single website or
resources, then it's time for me to crack open some books and start
recommending alternatives to my clients.

I think Macromedia will do a good job - better than Allaire would have
done in the long run (I think they were starting to crumble under their
own weight)

-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

developer's exchange is a key part of the community.. if it were to go
way-side due to a bad implementation or frustration, it certainly would
decrease core community... of course, we have this list as well  but
the
point in part is, support cost and the cost to maintain a community is
big,
but build loyalty, return sales, etc...

USAIR doesn't cancel all flights to do upgrades to its fleet.. nor does
the
FDIC close its digital systems... there always must be contingency
plans..
downtime minimized... no matter what size you are...

migration is no exception...

I don't envy the job... mergers and acquisitions can lead to goofy
leadership wars... I only hope that Macromedia doesn't fumble the ball
on
the Allaire products... and the community...

-paris


-Original Message-
From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 19:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...


Haha - very true.  So what?  We pay so much for the developer's
exchange, we shouldn't be concerned with their implementation issues :0)

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

Bill Davidson wrote:

 They've been doing this long before Allaire was bought by Macromedia.
I
 never understood it.  A company of that size has got to have a back up
 server that they can stick up while they do their routine maintenance.


I am not sure if switching infrastructures qualifies as routine
maintenance.

Jochem



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Re: UltraDev

2002-01-25 Thread Billy Cravens

LOL

I've never had any problems using multiple WYSIWYG's on one computer - maybe
one day Studio will uninstall all of them except for UD when I'm sleeping
but I doubt it.

By the way, you can control what applications open what files.  It's an
operating system feature.

Actually, Macromedia determined that they have to remove one click
convenience because Amazon.com was going to sue them for copyright
infringement.


- Original Message -
From: Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: UltraDev


 Macromedia have diminished your right to use a third party WYSIWYG HTML
 editor with ColdFusion Studio 5.

 Thay have attempted to FORCE you to not only purchase Studio 5 but also
 Ultradev 4.0.x. The latter product is severely lacking in it's current
form.
 Most CF developers could not care less about visual development.
Ultradev
 asssists in some ways but generally hinders in others. Use it for a while,
 especially in ColdFusion 'code complex' situations. Ultradev is a good
start
 but way off what serious developers need.

 

 Can someone tell me what UltraDev adds to the Cold Fusion Studio?  I
looked
 at the product description and could not really get what I would have if I
 had CF Sudio 5 Ultradev versus CF Studio 5.  I am contemplating whether it
 is worth the money to renew my alliance.

 

 Save your money and stick with CF 4.5.2 if you value the one-click method
of
 opening your current template into your preferred editor. CFS 5 removes
the
 choice - the same is said with the CSS editor - TopStyle.

 

 Save your money = stick with CF Studio 4.5 (SP) until MM pull there finger
 out.
 
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Re: OT-FONT Problem

2002-01-25 Thread Billy Cravens

It's Marlett or something like that.

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:43 AM
Subject: OT-FONT Problem


 --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


 Anyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made it a
long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where I
came up with the darned font! Thanks.

 www.zonedogg.com

 Greg





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 Do You Yahoo!?
 Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now!
 --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 PAnyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made
it a long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where
I came up with the darned font! Thanks./P
 PA href=http://www.zonedogg.com;www.zonedogg.com/A/P
 PGreg/PBRBRpbrhr size=1bDo You Yahoo!?/bbr
 a
href=http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com;Yahoo!
Auctions/a Great stuff seeking new owners! a
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Re: OT-FONT Problem

2002-01-25 Thread Billy Cravens

never mind - it's not marlett - but it starts with an M, i'm pretty sure :-)

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:43 AM
Subject: OT-FONT Problem


 --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


 Anyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made it a
long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where I
came up with the darned font! Thanks.

 www.zonedogg.com

 Greg





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 Do You Yahoo!?
 Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now!
 --0-91440316-1011962610=:40516
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 PAnyone know the name of this font used in this Header/Nav-bar? I made
it a long time ago, and need to make some changes, but can't remember where
I came up with the darned font! Thanks./P
 PA href=http://www.zonedogg.com;www.zonedogg.com/A/P
 PGreg/PBRBRpbrhr size=1bDo You Yahoo!?/bbr
 a
href=http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com;Yahoo!
Auctions/a Great stuff seeking new owners! a
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Re: RE: Using CFmail and loops

2002-01-25 Thread Billy Cravens

Actually, it might be a bit cleaner to use the ListQualify function instead
of Replace:

listQualify(form.propertyType,')

- Original Message -
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Using CFmail and loops


 Stephen,

 You should be able to re-work your query to use the in function (where
 PropertyType IN ('#replace(form.propertytype, ,, ',', ALL)#').

 Also, you might try building a pseudo grouping into your loop inside the
 cfmail and take out the query parameter of the cfmail tag assuming
that
 you only  want one email generated per serarch, right?

 Hatton

  cfloop index=PType list=#FORM.PropertyType# delimiters=,
 
  cfquery name=SearchProperties datasource=CMSX
 
 
  SELECT PropertyID,
  FullJobName,
  PropertyType,
  Tenure
  FROM Properties
  WHERE PropertyType = '#FORM.PropertyType#'
 
  cfif IsDefined(FORM.PropertyInfo)
 
  cfif FORM.PropertyInfo NEQ
  Freehold,Leasehold
 
  AND Tenure =
  '#FORM.PropertyInfo#'
 
  /cfif
 
  /cfif
 
  AND OnPrintedList = 1
  ORDER BY PropertyType,
  FullJobName,
  Tenure
 
 
 
  /cfquery
 
  cfmail query=SearchProperties
  to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  server=mail.company.com
  port=25
  timeout=20
  type=HTML
 
  cfloop query=SearchProperties
 
  cfoutput
  p
  table
 
  trtd#SearchProperties.FullJobName#/td/tr
 
  trtd#SearchProperties.PropertyType#/td/tr
 
  trtd#SearchProperties.Tenure#/td/tr
  /table
  /p
  hr
  /cfoutput
 
  /cfloop
 
 
  /cfmail
 
  /cfloop
 
  Hope this helps,
 
  Cheers Stephen
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CFPOP attachments

2002-01-25 Thread Billy Cravens

You'll need to rename the files in one loop, and then link to the newly
named files in a separate loop.
(You could do them both, but it seems cleaner to do it the other way)

I'd keep the unique file names.

- Original Message -
From: W Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: CFPOP  attachments


 Say I've got a CFpop query as follows.  I was using some code for looping
 through multiple-attachments from cfcomet.com

(http://www.cfcomet.com/cfcomet/other/index.cfm?ArticleID=7AD3EF1A-C5E5-4FE9
 -8F7C88F84D5C822D).  What I need to do is prepend the sender's email
address
 to the attachment-filename when it's stored to the web-server.  At the
 moment, I'm using the GENERATEUNIQUEFILENAMES=Yes attrib in the query.
 The CFComet code I'm using is as follows:

 CFSET Count = ListLen(newspool.attachments, #CHR(9)#)

 CFIF Len(newspool.attachments)

 This message contains #Count# attachmentCFIF Count NEQ 1s/CFIF:P

 CFLOOP FROM=1 TO=#ListLen(newspool.Attachments, chr(9))#
INDEX=i

 !---   A HREF=index.cfm?fuseaction=getMailFile


file=#URLEncodedFormat(GetFileFromPath(ListGetAt(newspool.attachmentfiles,
 i, chr(9#
   name=#URLEncodedFormat(ListGetAt(newspool.attachments, i,
 chr(9)))#
   #ListGetAt(newspool.attachments, i, chr(9))#
/ABR ---
 /CFLOOP

 /CFIF

 Should I rename the files in the above cfloop using #i# for the
 filename/path in cffile - and if so, do I keep the
generateuniquefilenames
 attrib Yes?

 Hope some of that makes sense!

 Cheers

 Will


 
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Re: UltraDev

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

Renew your alliance?  I was under the impression that Macromedia wasn't
going to include developer software in the Alliance/partner programs.

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: UltraDev


 Can someone tell me what UltraDev adds to the Cold Fusion Studio?  I
looked
 at the product description and could not really get what I would have if I
 had CF Sudio 5 Ultradev versus CF Studio 5.  I am contemplating whether it
 is worth the money to renew my alliance.

 Chris Combs
 New Creation Consulting

 
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Re: Good WHOIS

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

Look at Lewis Seller's cfx - don't waste your time with those stupid ones
that just do a CFHTTP to NetSol's site.  Keep in mind that many registrars
don't report the dates and whatnot - the only thing you can be guaranteed is
the domain name, the name of the registrant, and the DNS servers.

- Original Message -
From: nagraj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Good WHOIS


 Hi Neil,

can you give the URL for whois Engine.I am in need of it

 Regards
 Nagaraj

 - Original Message -
 From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:09 PM
 Subject: Good WHOIS


  I am trying a really good CF based Whois for domain names?  I tried
 ODSWHOIS
  and its nice but it doesn't show record created and expiration dates.
  Anyone know of one that does?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Neil
 
 
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Re: OT: Macromedia's new site design

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

You can run something like VMWare, running multiple versions of
Windows/Linux concurrently.  Also, there's a web-based service that gives
you screenshots of your site in different browsers at
http://www.netmechanic.com/browser-index.htm

Of course, since you're a single PC user, does that mean you don't test
Linux or Mac?  Bad idea - there's a lot of issues there.  Pick up some
commodity hardware off of eBay - an old 166 with 16mb of RAM will run Linux
ok, and you can find an old iMac for under $300.

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: OT: Macromedia's new site design


 What I hate - but we (single PC) developers would know this - is the fact
 that it is very difficult to run more than one version of a browser (IE,
NS)
 and can this really complicate things.

 If you keep your core HTML as compliant it can assist greatly but often
 browser issues can be difficult to track down and nail.

 Peter Tilbrook
 ColdFusion Applications Developer
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Re: Help with CFGRID

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

CFGrid has nothing to do with what Java run-time you have installed on the
server.  It is a Java applet, rendered in the browser, not the server, so
the problem lies in the Java environment on the end-user's machine.

- Original Message -
From: Waldemiro Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Help with CFGRID


 I´m using IE6, CF5, W2K and I have already installed the J2RE 1.30 on
 my server and CFGRID still not working.
 After loading my page that contains CFGRID, on the browser´s status
 bar there´s this message: Start: applet not initialized and the text
 inside the Java Console is:

 -
 --
 Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.3.0_01
 Using JRE version 1.3.0_01 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
 User home directory = C:\WINDOWS

 Proxy Configuration: Manual Configuration

  Proxy: FW02:8080

  Proxy Overrides: local



 
 c:   clear console window
 f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
 g:   garbage collect
 h:   display this help message
 l:   dump classloader list
 m:   print memory usage
 q:   hide console
 s:   dump system properties
 t:   dump thread list
 x:   clear classloader cache
 0-5: set trace level to n
 

 java.lang.NullPointerException

  at
 allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.adjustColumnWidths(CFGridApplet.java:307)

  at allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.init(CFGridApplet.java:169)

  at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

  at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

 -
 --

 Can anyone help me on this issue?
 Thanks.

 Waldemiro Junior

 
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Re: Good WHOIS

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

Yep, I'm glad to see the steps taken to fight domain name speculation.  Of
course, that whole market has gone bust - the Internet economy is in bad
shape, so a good domain doesn't guarantee anything, and quality indexes like
Google mean you don't need to have a good name to find what you're looking
for.

- Original Message -
From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Good WHOIS


 I use Lewis' nicname cfx as well.  Until ICANN requires all registrars to
 return the exact same information, either using a common format or using
 XML, what you're going to get back is just a large block of text, filled
 with names, addresses, disclaimers, etc.  There are now dozens of
 registries, each with its own way of formatting the output.  There's
 actually some benefit to the anarchy, though.  It makes it much tougher
for
 people to harvest the WHOIS database.

 Make sure you point the tag at a whois server that will systematically
query
 the registries to find the information, sometimes called a WHOIS Proxy.
 I've been using whois.geektools.com for years.  They'll limit the number
of
 daily queries that you can do (once again, to prevent abuse), but if you
ask
 them politely they may lift the restriction for the IP address of your
 server.

 Jim


 - Original Message -
 From: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:34 AM
 Subject: Re: Good WHOIS


  Look at Lewis Seller's cfx - don't waste your time with those stupid
ones
  that just do a CFHTTP to NetSol's site.  Keep in mind that many
registrars
  don't report the dates and whatnot - the only thing you can be
guaranteed
 is
  the domain name, the name of the registrant, and the DNS servers.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: nagraj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Good WHOIS
 
 
   Hi Neil,
  
  can you give the URL for whois Engine.I am in need of it
  
   Regards
   Nagaraj
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:09 PM
   Subject: Good WHOIS
  
  
I am trying a really good CF based Whois for domain names?  I tried
   ODSWHOIS
and its nice but it doesn't show record created and expiration
dates.
Anyone know of one that does?
   
Thanks,
   
Neil
 
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Re: changing CFID/CFTOKEN

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

No way.  CFID/CFTOKEN is how CF manages sessions.  You can change your setup
to use GUID's, which will provide an added layer of obscurity to the
CFID/CFTOKEN.  Or you could roll your own session state, but this introduces
it's own complexities.

- Original Message -
From: Herbener, Martin - School Information Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: changing CFID/CFTOKEN


 I'm using ColdFusion client variables and would like to have the
 CFID/CFTOKEN values change periodically during a user session in order
to
 reduce the chances that, if they were intercepted, they could be used to
 impersonate a user.  Has anyone figured out a way to do that?

 thanks

 
 Martin Herbener
 
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Re: Help with CFGRID

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

Doesn't you mean that you only have to have the .cab file, not the Java
runtime?  Or does ColdFusion generate the .cab file on the fly?

Also, why does CF break when the user has a newer version of the JRE?
That's just plain stupid.  If I was a dial up user, and I knew I had a newer
version of X software than some site says I need, but they want me to
download a 5mb file, I'll be clicking the back button as I mutter You can
kiss my...

- Original Message -
From: Chris Wigginton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: Help with CFGRID


 The JRE version does come in to play on the user's browser using the
 NetScape Browser when version 5 of CF is used.  To be more precise,
 I've included the various outputs of CF 4.5 and CF 5 for both IE and
 Netscape.

 As you can see, there are some differences

 1) different classes are used between 4.5 and 5

 2) CF 5 does not use APPLET tags, instead it will use iether an
 EMBED or an OBJECT,
 depending on which browser is used.

 3) When using the CF 5 version on Netscape, the JRE version is
 indicated.  This causes problems
 when the user's JRE plugin is different from the requested version
 that is generated by
 the CFFORM java ui elements.  The user is requested to install the
 correct version.

 The version specified by CF 5 is 1.3.0_01

 Netscapes current version is 1.3.0_02 (the plugin download size is
 5320K for windows)


  ColdFusion 4.5 output
=

 ColdFusion 4.5 ie output of applet header for Internet Explorer
 --
 APPLET NAME=news_grid CODE=allaire.controls.cfGridFormApplet
 CODEBASE=/CFIDE/classes/cf-j2re-win.cab HEIGHT=170 WIDTH=640
 ALIGN=LEFT VSPACE=6 HSPACE=10


 ColdFusion 4.5 NETSCAPE output of applet header
 --
 APPLET NAME=news_grid CODE=allaire.controls.cfGridFormApplet
 CODEBASE=/CFIDE/classes/ HEIGHT=170 WIDTH=640 ALIGN=LEFT
 VSPACE=6 HSPACE=10


 === ColdFusion 5.0 output


 ColdFusion 5.0 ie output of using OBJECT for Internet Explorer
 --
 OBJECT
   CLASSID=clsid:8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93
   CODEBASE=/CFIDE/classes/cf-j2re-win.cab
   STANDBY=First use of this control. Configuring browser. Please
 wait...
   WIDTH=640
   HEIGHT=170
   ALIGN=LEFT
   VSPACE=6
 
 PARAM NAME=CODE
 VALUE=allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.class
 PARAM NAME=ARCHIVE VALUE=/CFIDE/classes/CFJava2.jar


 ColdFusion 5.0 NETSCAPE output using EMBED
 --
 EMBED
   TYPE=application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.3.0_01
   PLUGINSPAGE=http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/index.html;
   CODE=allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.class
   ARCHIVE=/CFIDE/classes/CFJava2.jar





 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:00 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Help with CFGRID


 CFGrid has nothing to do with what Java run-time you have installed on
 the
 server.  It is a Java applet, rendered in the browser, not the server,
 so
 the problem lies in the Java environment on the end-user's machine.

 - Original Message -
 From: Waldemiro Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:39 AM
 Subject: Help with CFGRID


  I´m using IE6, CF5, W2K and I have already installed the J2RE 1.30
 on
  my server and CFGRID still not working.
  After loading my page that contains CFGRID, on the browser´s status
  bar there´s this message: Start: applet not initialized and the
 text
  inside the Java Console is:
 
 
 
 -
  --
  Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.3.0_01
  Using JRE version 1.3.0_01 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
  User home directory = C:\WINDOWS
 
  Proxy Configuration: Manual Configuration
 
   Proxy: FW02:8080
 
   Proxy Overrides: local
 
 
 
  
  c:   clear console window
  f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
  g:   garbage collect
  h:   display this help message
  l:   dump classloader list
  m:   print memory usage
  q:   hide console
  s:   dump system properties
  t:   dump thread list
  x:   clear classloader cache
  0-5: set trace level to n
  
 
  java.lang.NullPointerException
 
   at
 
 allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.adjustColumnWidths(CFGridApplet.java:307)

 
   at allaire.controls2.CFGridApplet.init(CFGridApplet.java:169)
 
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)
 
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source

Re: SQL ?

2002-01-23 Thread Billy Cravens

Perhaps, but as you stated, you are asking very basic SQL questions.  You're
dealing with a classic one-to-many relationship, and I'm not sure that you
understand the concepts of primary and foreign keys.  These are fundamentals
of working with any language that communicates with a relational database.

With a subject line of SQL, I assumed that you either had a question about
your query, or your database design.  However, if it appears that your
problem has nothing to do with either, and it is simply a matter of parsing
the results of your form submission to build a basic INSERT query.

The answer to your real question (disregarding the subject):

On your final page (where clips are submitted), I'm assuming that you've
passed the title id.  Are you passing one, or multiple titles?  If passing
just one, make it a hidden form field, and name all clip fields the same.

In ColdFusion, when you have form fields with the same name, it is seen as a
comma-delimited list.  So, you loop over the list:

cfloop index=i list=#form.clip#
 cfquery
  insert into clips (clip_title,title_id)
  values ('#i#',#form.title_id#)
 /cfquery
/cfloop

Now, if you are submitting multiple titles/clips, I would recommend having
the following form fields:
title_id - this will be a comma delimited list
clip_X - X represents a title id

You will then loop over your list of title id's, and then have a nested loop
where you determine the field name of your clips using Evaluate(), and
insert as before:

cfloop index=i list=#form.title_id#
 cfloop index=j list=#evaluate(form.clip_#i#)#
  cfquery
   insert into clips (clip_title,title_id)
   values ('#j#',#i#)
  /cfquery
 /cfloop
/cfloop

I do understand that looping can be a difficult concept for beginners with
little programming experience to grasp, but give it a try.  If this isn't
definitive enough, perhaps you should reconsider the complexity of the
application you are trying to build.

- Original Message -
From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: SQL ?


 Smart ass!!!





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 BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.



 Doug Brown
 - Original Message -
 From: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:11 AM
 Subject: Re: SQL ?


 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=booksfield-k
 eywor
  ds=database%20designbq=1/104-3879300-8333541
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=booksfield-k
 eywor
  ds=sqlbq=1/104-3879300-8333541
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:22 PM
  Subject: SQL ?
 
 
   I had posted this before, but did not have a real definative answer.
   Could someone help please?
  
   I have my database set up as follows, it is a music DB
  
   tables
  
   [artists]
  
   [albums]
  
   [titles]
  
   [clips]
  
  
   I inset a new artist and am taken to a page to insert the album, and
   from there to a page to insert the song titles that are associated
 with
   that album, and from there to a page where I will insert the song
 clips
   associated with the song titles. The problem I am having is their is
   only one table row for each title and the same for the clips. The
 forms
   has 20 form fields on both the titles and clips pages. What I want
 to do
   is insert them so it comes out like so. Someone suggested to use a
 comma
   delimeted list of song titles, but that will not work being that I
   cannot associate them with the clips. Another said to put all titles
   into seperate rows and the same with the clips into the album table,
 but
   I do not think that is very good DB management. How can I loop
 through
   the 20 form fields on each page to have it insert like below. I hope
   this makes sense, and yes I know this is basic SQL stuff and I
 probably
   need to take a course.
  
  
   [titles]
   IDalbum_idsongTitle
   12 hello world
   22 testing
   32 testing2
  
   [clips]
   IDtitle_idclip
   1   1songClip1
   2   2songClip2
   3   3songClip3
  
  
  
  
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 [Unix]
   BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
  
  
  
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Re: Developer Exchange Search

2002-01-23 Thread Billy Cravens

It's no worse than it was back in the Allaire days

I wrote absolute crap that used Access and Verity when I first picked up CF
in the 4.0 days that ran faster.

- Original Message -
From: Dave Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:11 PM
Subject: Developer Exchange Search


 Time to wake up guys. The function is
 sooo slow.

 Please look into it!!!

 
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Re: ASP Equivalents?

2002-01-23 Thread Billy Cravens

Well, a number of those features don't exist in ASP.  Things like
application.cfm, custom tags, list manipulation functions.  You'll need to
reproduce some CF functionality, and rethink how you architect your
application.  It sounds to me like you're coming at this fresh - if so, I'd
look at ASP.NET as opposed to ASP 2/3.  ASP.NET is far more robust; plus it
has the performance advantages that Neo will have.  Also, I find the code
much cleaner a closer to a tag-based syntax than 2/3.  This depends entirely
on the hosting situation, however.

There's a number of good ASP websites out there; also, I recommend the Wrox
series of books.  However, there really isn't a CF 2 ASP resource out
there.  I've begun to start one (www.cfasp.com), but at this point, it only
has a message board.

I'll attempt to cover your points, as best I can: (ASP 2/3)
1.  you can't initialize the same way that you can in application.cfm -
however, when the app starts, you can initialize application and session
scopes in global.asa - note that there is no client scope in ASP
2.  there is no CFModule - if you're wanting to encapsulate functionality,
you'll need to write components (most likely in VB) - of course, you can
include files just as in CF - note that in ASP, you can't conditionally
include files as in CF - you might want to look at server.execute and
server.transfer as some other options
3.  ADO - it's all over the web, and there's plenty of examples out there -
get ready to totally rethink how you query the database (of course, CF does
the same things, but abstracts it for you)
4.  SSI - !-- #include file=file.asp --
5.  very similar in VBScript - get the VBScript docs at
msdn.microsoft.com/scripting
6.  no such critter - in VBScript, you don't have to initialize variables -
unitialized vars are simply zero-length strings
7.  see #6 - everything isDefined()
8.  see For/While loops in VBScript docs - also see ADO stuff - keep in mind
that ADO recordsets require you to manually iterate over the recordset, as
opposed to cfoutput that does it for you
9.  you'll have to reproduce these yourself
10.  most of the rich array functions aren't present - you can read/write
arrays, get the UBound() and LBound(), but that's about it
11.  no structs per se - you'll need to look at using the Dictionary object
to reproduce most of the CF functionality - it's so much trouble, I usually
ignore lists and structs and stick with arrays
12.  absolutely: option % if thisID = thatID then %selected% end if %
13.  Most of the date functions are there - for the most part, they even
have the same name
14.  Administrative functions - hahahahaha - it's called IIS - this will be
quite a paradigm shift - debugging, there is a script debugger server-side,
but this is more like traditional application debugging - if you want to see
recordset, url, form, etc info, you'll need to put it in yourself (note that
ASP.NET has some serious debugging output options though)
15.  index server - this is a whole other beast - I highly recommend some
good reading here (note that this is more for files, not for recordsets)

Good luck!

- Original Message -
From: Chris Norloff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: ASP Equivalents?


 We need to build an app using ASP.  We'd rather use CF (of course!) but
the customer is adamant.

 Anybody know a good source for getting ASP equivalents for:

 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session
scope variables as we do in application.cfm
 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template)
 3. cfquery
 4. cfinclude
 5. cfswitch/cfcase
 6. cfparam
 7. isDefined() function
 8. cfoutput, cfloop
 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt())
 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tell
us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't)
 11. Structs (see 10)
 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way that
CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif
expression within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in
my select option tags for handling complex option lists.
 13. Date functions like in CF?
 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a
datasource and debugging info?
 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities

 
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Re: Windows Explorer HTML thumbnails

2002-01-23 Thread Billy Cravens

all it does is render it in a tiny window - you can see the code, just look
for the .htt file

- Original Message -
From: Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: Windows Explorer HTML thumbnails


 anyone got any idea on how to re-use the window explorer webpage
 thumbnails to create a cool CFX,
 CFX_WEBPAGEIMAGE ?

 zac
 
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Re: ASP Equivalents?

2002-01-23 Thread Billy Cravens

You really want to stick with VBScript (in ASP 2/3), since 99% of all
examples will be in that language, and it seems to be the easiest of those
listed to learn (you may already know JScript, but there alot of difference
between server-side and client-side coding)

- Original Message -
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents?


 I mean what language are you using for your Active Server Page? You can
 write them in perl, python, javascript, vbscript, and probably many more
 languages.

 On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Bryan Stevenson wrote:

  He's not developing an ASP he's using ASP to develop an app (and we'll
ne
 ver for give him for
  it...hehe) ;-)
 
  Bryan Stevenson
  VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  p. 250.920.8830
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -
  Macromedia Associate Partner
  www.macromedia.com
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents?
 
 
   what language are you using for your ASP?
  
  
   On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote:
  
We need to build an app using ASP.  We'd rather use CF (of course!)
b
 ut t
   he customer is adamant.
   
Anybody know a good source for getting ASP equivalents for:
   
1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and
session
  sco
   pe variables as we do in application.cfm
2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template)
3. cfquery
4. cfinclude
5. cfswitch/cfcase
6. cfparam
7. isDefined() function
8. cfoutput, cfloop
9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt())
10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions,
just
  tel
   l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't)
11. Structs (see 10)
12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same
way
  tha
   t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif
 expr
   ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot
in
  my
   select option tags for handling complex option lists.
13. Date functions like in CF?
14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up
 a da
   tasource and debugging info?
15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching
capabili
 ties
   
   
  
 
 
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Re: How to determine what button was pushed? --(@@@)

2002-01-23 Thread Billy Cravens

Why not try this instead:

form action=page.cfm method=get or post name=frm
  input type=button name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Move
onClick=OnSubmit();

  input type=button name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Copy
onClick=OnSubmit();

/form

- Original Message -
From: Troy Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:33 PM
Subject: How to determine what button was pushed? --(@@@)


 Is there a way to use client-side javascript to determine what button
 was pushed before submitting a form?

 For example:

 form action=page.cfm method=get or post name=frm onsubmit=return
 OnSubmit();
   input type=submit name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Move

   input type=submit name=btnAction id=btnAction value=Copy

 /form

 Thanks,
 Troy

 P.S. Anyone know of a good JavaScript list to subscribe to?

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Re: Trouble installing CF Express

2002-01-21 Thread Billy Cravens

Note that the downloadable version of CF5 has a developer's liscense
available (connections from one IP address), so that you can explore the
full feature-set of CF (CFExpress is feature limited, missing things like
CFFile)

Of course, this may not be the issue at all.

Do ASP pages work in PWS?  Just paste this code into a page and name it
test.asp:

%= Now() %

Note that even though PWS  may be able to serve up static pages, that
doesn't mean that everything is OK.

What do the permissions in PWS look like?  It's been a while since I ran it,
but you need to make sure that permissions are set to either Script or
Execute.

Another possibility is running the Apache web server -  supported by CF as
well.

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From: Bear Clover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:47 PM
Subject: Trouble installing CF Express


 Hello, I am new to this list. I am glad I discovered it!

 I have just discovered ColdFusion, and am pretty excited about learning
it.
 I've created a few simple scripts, (and got them to WORK) and now I want
to
 learn more. I have a few good CF books, which are really helping so far.

 I have been trying to install CF Express on my Windows 98 PC, and it just
 won't take. I cannot get Administrator to open, no matter what. I know
my
 Personal Web Server is working, because I can open its IP, and
localhost.
 I am at a loss about why CF Express won't install. I even uninstalled and
 reinstalled it, but that didn't make any difference. If anyone has any
idea
 what might be the problem, I'd appreciate any help!

 Right now, I'm editing CF scripts on my Mac, using BBEdit, and then
 uploading them to my webhost (which supports CF 4.5) to test. This is a
 little more time-consuming, but at least it works! I could do the same on
my
 PC, of course, but my PC is out of favor with me since it refused to
install
 CF Express! ;-)

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Re: CSS

2002-01-21 Thread Billy Cravens

I don't think this will work very well.  I know you can change some of the
information in IE, but it won't be cross-browser.  If you really need that
look, I'd replicate a drop down using DHTML.  (go to
www.mr-bill.net/archives.cfm for something I've done - I know it only works
in IE now, but it could easily be done in NS)

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: OT: CSS


 I've been reading through css resources, but I can't seem to find much on
 altering the properties of a select box.  Changing the font, width,
height,
 blah blah is no problem.  This issue is changing the scroll bar properties
 such as color, and border properties so that I can remove the 3d effect.

 Any help is appreciated.

 Thanks,

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Re: Capture Output from CFINCLUDE?

2002-01-18 Thread Billy Cravens

Use CFHTTP

- Original Message -
From: James Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: Capture Output from CFINCLUDE?


 Is it possible to capture the output from an included template?

 I have tried CFSAVECONTENT and also tried to wrap the cfinclude within a
 custom tag and use ThisTag.GeneratedContent but to no avail.

 It is not an option to modify the cfincluded file. Nor is it an option
 to convert it into a cf module. So, all suggestions are welcomed. :)

 If it is not possible, please let me know too! :)

 Thanks.

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Re: html standards

2002-01-18 Thread Billy Cravens

There's actually a custom tag (by Steve Nelson) called cf_HTMLHead that does
this - I use it on most of my applications:

http://www.fusebox.org//download/tags/htmlhead.zip

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Bridges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: html standards


 That cfhtmlhead tag is pretty sweet ... However, can someone please
 pass on
 to Macromedia that it makes zero sense to call it like so:
 cfhtmlhead text=
 It should be called like this:
 cfhtmlhead/cfhtmlhead

 Now if we want to start using cfhtmlhead we have to go through all of
 our js
 code and make sure the quotes are escaped and don't conflict with the
 type
 of quote you use in .

 ::: -Original Message-
 ::: From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 ::: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:36 AM
 ::: To: CF-Talk
 ::: Subject: RE: html standards
 :::
 :::
 :::  Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where
 :::  there is a fair bit of code in application.cfm and in header
 :::  files and such. The htmlhead blah blah /headbody
 :::  section is in a file called dsp_header. In some pages, much
 :::  of the javascript gets included with the form as a simple
 :::  script block outside the head/head tags. Also, we've
 :::  recently put some javascript code in the application.cfm
 :::  file.
 :::
 ::: The short answer is, no, current browsers don't care where
 ::: your JavaScript
 ::: is, as long as functions and objects are defined before
 ::: they're referenced.
 ::: However, standards compliance is a good thing, all other
 ::: things being equal,
 ::: and future browsers may care.
 :::
 ::: Fortunately, you can deal with this using the CFHTMLHEAD
 ::: tag, which writes a
 ::: string to the HTML HEAD of the document. By itself, it's
 ::: difficult to use
 ::: with strings containing JavaScript, so you can build
 ::: yourself a little
 ::: four-line custom tag to automatically escape the strings:
 :::
 ::: cfif ThisTag.ExecutionMode is end
 ::: cfhtmlhead text=#ThisTag.GeneratedContent#
 ::: cfset ThisTag.GeneratedContent = 
 ::: /cfif
 :::
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Re: Dealing with inventories

2002-01-17 Thread Billy Cravens

Isn't this a security flaw?  Seems like someone could easily script a Denial
of Service to go to your site, add all your inventory to their cart,
therefore preventing anything from being sold

- Original Message -
From: stas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: Dealing with inventories


 Hello,

 I am trying to figure out how to deal with updating the inventory in a
 shopping cart. I create (only if it doesn't already exist) an application
 scoped array within a CFLOCK populated by looping over a query. As users
add
 items, I update the quantities in the that array. What I can't figure out
is
 how to deal with abandoned shopping carts - how do I update the inventory
 back to the real value?

 
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Re: Another dealing with inventories?

2002-01-17 Thread Billy Cravens

Basic database design.  If you have one clip per song, why not just have a
field that contains the clip filename?
Otherwise, have a second table that contains a foreign key to your song ID.
Now, obtaining the id created for the song is a bit tricky, depending on
your RDBMS.

- Original Message -
From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:40 PM
Subject: Another dealing with inventories?


 I have a form with several fields that will be filled in by someone
 adding song titles. Each song title will have a song clip(30 second demo
 of song) Have not figured out if they should be on the same form or not.
 I need figure out how to handle the song clip issue.

 I need the song clips ID to match up with the song titles ID, I have 2
 seperate tables. IE: [albums] [clips] How would I go about inserting the
 song clips to where they will match up with the song titles?

 Hope this made sense




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Re: Stored Procedure Too Slow

2002-01-17 Thread Billy Cravens

What does the execution plan in Query Analyzer tell you?

- Original Message -
From: Cody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:18 AM
Subject: Stored Procedure Too Slow


 Hopefully someone can help me with this. I have this query that executes
in
 around 90ms or so:

 ---
 cfquery name=treetwig datasource=#request.site.maindsn#
 SELECT  Child.category_id, Child.category_name, (SELECT Count(*) FROM
 category_tree AS Child2, category_tree AS Parent2 WHERE Child2.StartBranch
 BETWEEN Parent2.StartBranch AND Parent2.EndBranch AND Child2.category_id =
 Child.category_id) AS lvl, P.pageid, P.Active
 FROM category_tree AS Parent, category_tree AS Child, tblPage AS P
 WHERE (Child.startbranch BETWEEN Parent.startbranch AND Parent.endbranch)
 AND Parent.category_id=#val(attributes.category_id)#
 AND Child.page_id = P.pageid
 AND P.Active = 1
 ORDER BY Child.startbranch
 /cfquery
 --

 But when I turn it into a stored procedure using:

 --
 cfstoredproc procedure=pr_treetwig datasource=#request.site.maindsn#
 cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_INTEGER dbvarname=@CategoryID
 value=#val(attributes.category_id)#
 cfprocresult name=treetwig resultset=1
 /cfstoredproc
 --

 .. and the stored procedure looks like:

 --
 CREATE PROCEDURE pr_treetwig
 @CategoryID [int]
 AS
 SELECT  Child.category_id, Child.category_name, (SELECT Count(*) FROM
 category_tree AS Child2, category_tree AS Parent2 WHERE Child2.StartBranch
 BETWEEN Parent2.StartBranch AND Parent2.EndBranch AND Child2.category_id =
 Child.category_id)  AS lvl, P.pageid, P.Active
 FROM category_tree AS Parent, category_tree AS Child, tblPage AS P
 WHERE (Child.startbranch BETWEEN Parent.startbranch AND Parent.endbranch)
 AND Parent.category_id= @CategoryID AND Child.page_id = P.pageid AND
 P.Active = 1
 ORDER BY Child.startbranch
 GO
 --

 It takes over twice as long to execute -- around 240ms.
 Can anyone tell me why?  This has been driving me crazy. ^_^

 Cody


 
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Re: Dealing with inventories

2002-01-17 Thread Billy Cravens

I think the product catalog is in the application scope, not the individual
shopping carts.

- Original Message -
From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Dealing with inventories


 
  I am trying to figure out how to deal with updating the inventory in a
  shopping cart. I create (only if it doesn't already exist) an
application
  scoped array within a CFLOCK populated by looping over a query. As users
 add
  items, I update the quantities in the that array. What I can't figure
out
 is
  how to deal with abandoned shopping carts - how do I update the
inventory
  back to the real value?
 

 Stas,

 Personally I would use session or client variables for the cart rather
than
 the application scope.  Using the application scope, if you have a cart
 variable/structure called say cart everyone on the site would use the
same
 cart.  If you use session or client variables, then each user has their
own
 cart and you don't have the problem of dealing with multiple users using
one
 cart.  On a busy site you could quite easily and quickly wind up with
 timeout/deadlock issues using the application scope.

 With regards updating the inventory, again personally I would only take
 items off of the inventory when the user hits the last button on the check
 out and their order is confirmed at that point.  As Robert has just
 suggested

 hope that helps...

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Re: CF_dynamic_pdf_catalog

2002-01-17 Thread Billy Cravens

If you can get everything into a database, CF would work well - there's a
number of PDF creation options for CF (I've used ActivePDF with success)

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: CF_dynamic_pdf_catalog


 We're trying to build a catalog to be burnt onto a CD-
 ROM.  We have hundreds of products detailed within their
 own Acrobat PDF files. I want to be able to edit
 existing PDFs and rebuild the CD-ROM, add a PDFs and
 rebuild the catalog made up of PDFs which will be burnt
 onto a CD-ROM. Has anyone every built a dynamic catalog
 assembly application?

 Maybe CF isn't the answer.  Any feedback would be great.

 
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Re: OnRequestEnd.cfm not running

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

I'm not sure if this is the case, but if you're on anything but Windows (the
server), filenames are case-sensitive.  In other words, the file name should
be OnRequestEnd.cfm, not onrequestend.cfm.

What version of CF are you running?  OnRequestEnd.cfm is only available in
4.5+

If you still can't get it to work, look at cf_sandwich

- Original Message -
From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:20 AM
Subject: OnRequestEnd.cfm not running


 OK. This is weird.

 I thought OnRequestEnd runs every time a page is called, as long as there
is
 a matching Application.cfm in the app

 Am I ok so far?

 I have a form page ... on submission goes to another .cfm page which does
 some error checking ... if errors are found, it sends the user back to the
 form cfinclude, and highlights the errors.

 When I first load the form page ... All the templates that are supposed to
 run, indeed do so. Including OnRequestEnd.cfm. If there is an error on the
 page though, and the user gets sent back to the form, the OnRequestEnd
does
 not run, but Application.cfm does.

 Has anyone ever had this happen? Am I going nuts? Did I do something
wrong?

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 -
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Re: CF and ASP

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

The mailing lists at 15Seconds are pretty good.

- Original Message -
From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: CF and ASP


 Hello All,

 I have a question a bit off topic.
 Does anyone know of a list like this one but for ASP?
 I need to ask a few questions there to help get this site converted to CF.

 Thanks,
 Mike


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Re: CF and ASP

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

Do they offer an email list?  Imagine if CF-Talk was web-based only

- Original Message -
From: Brian Ferrigno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: CF and ASP


 Michael,

 Try this one

 http://www.aspmessageboard.com/forum/asp.asp



 Brian Ferrigno


 -Original Message-
 From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:04 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF and ASP


 Hello All,

 I have a question a bit off topic.
 Does anyone know of a list like this one but for ASP?
 I need to ask a few questions there to help get this site converted to
 CF.

 Thanks,
 Mike


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