Re: US Government moving to Drupal?
On 13 January 2011 12:53, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to start one of those interminable CF is dying threads but I am curious as to how many people had seen these stories and what they thought in the context of the US government following many other world governments in a push for FOSS (Free Open Source Software) solutions? I'm also curious about how Drupal and, say, Mura or FarCry compare since I'm not familiar enough with all of them to make such a comparison. For what it's worth, FarCry[1] compares very admirably with Drupal. I suspect that the move to FOSS in many minds means a move away from Adobe ColdFusion (and other commercial servers), rather than a lack of comparable application options such as robust publishing frameworks. Ideally someone would be out there plugging away at preserving CFML installations by promoting a FOSS CFML application server :) -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia p. +612 8090 9394 skype. gb.daemon w. http://www.daemon.com.au/ e. mod...@daemon.com.au [1]: http://www.farcrycore.org/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340720 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Farcry docs site down
On 11/04/10 7:02 PM, Dominic Watson wrote: And has been for several days (at least), getting a 502 Proxy error. Anyone know who to contact? http://docs.farcrycms.org/ back up -- thanks for the tip ;) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332834 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CMS comparison: Farcry vs Razuna vs Sava
2008/10/13 Tony Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I had a chance to talk to Malcolm O'Keefe (the CEO of BlueRiver Interactive, which is to Sava what Daemon is to FarCry) about this subject. As an example, he pointed out the social networking site biteclub.com, which he described as a huge Model-Glue application integrated with Sava to handle the content editing/publishing and user management aspects of the site. The only drawback (which Malcolm readily admitted) is that, at this point, the documentation on how to use Sava's API to integrate it with other apps is sparse, but they are working on it, as well as a more formalized plugin architecture to build Sava extensions. An API for integration is not quite the same as built for extending. FarCry Core is it itself a framework in which the huge Model-Glue application could likely have been built. But hey I'm certainly no expert in Sava so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I've tried a couple of times to get started with Farcry, but it didn't really click with me. I'm finding the learning curve with Sava to be much shallower and the user forums have been really helpful. This is definitely not a knock on Farcry, which is THE content management framework in the OS CF space. But I found the learning curve to be steep. From what I hear though, you can get a lot out of it if you can keep with it. For those who tried to use FarCry in the past and found it difficult I would thoroughly recommend the new FarCry Jump Start Course -- so far we've had tremendous feedback. The course details the building of an application from the ground up and has been very helpful in getting developers to click with the way the FarCry framework is constructed: http://org.farcrycore.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/farcry-jumpstart-500-20080905.pdf Best regards, geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313796 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CMS comparison: Farcry vs Razuna vs Sava
My apologies in advance. But its hard to let things like this stand on a public forum. I'll resort to the facts only. 2008/9/30 Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Don't get me wrong, as I tried to tell Geoff one day. It is not about having to pay for support, its about reducing the support types that are received. If one reduces the amount of support coming into the product team, then the product team could provide better support to older releases. Currently once a product is released with Farcry CMS, the oldeer versions have a poor support framework. Patches are non existant, for older versions. Unless you keep up with the trunk, the support and patches only make it to current releases only. So bad luck if your update cycle from the client doesn't match farcry. While we can always do better, the following is a quick report of version history from the farcry community bug tracker of vetted milestone releases (ie. qa'd collections of enhancements and bug fixes): 5.0.2 (Maintenance release for 5.0) 13/Aug/08 5.0.1 (Maintenance release for 5.0) 10/Jul/08 FarCry 5.0 (Fortress: Security, user directory, policy, permissions, i18n, workflow) 02/Jun/08 4.0.11 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 01/Sep/08 4.0.10 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 20/Mar/08 4.0.9 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 18/Nov/07 4.0.8 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 11/Sep/07 4.0.7 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 30/Aug/07 4.0.6 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 26/Jul/07 4.0.5 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 18/Jul/07 4.0.4 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 12/Jul/07 4.0.3 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 21/Jun/07 4.0.2 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 15/Jun/07 4.0.1 (Maintenance release for 4.0) 29/May/07 FarCry 4.0 (Codename: Gonzalas) 30/Mar/07 3.0.3 (Maintenance release for 3.0) 11/Sep/08 3.0.2 (Maintenance release for 3.0) 30/May/07 3.0.1 (Maintenance release for 3.0) 17/Mar/06 FarCry 3.0 (Codename: Glamour) 31/Oct/05 Active development on the version 3.0 product release has ceased for some years now. However, we continue to field paid support requests on the 3.0 platform and support community contributions to the repo. Note there are updaters to assist in the move from 3.x - 4.x - 5.x. Ongoing maintenance for 4.x and 5.x will continue for the foreseeable future -- and probably for as long as have clients operating on these platforms. For those that have an interest in such things, you can track the issue list, and its schedules here: http://bugs.farcrycms.org/ And up to the *minute* code changes here: http://fisheye.farcrycms.org/browse/core Note that the trunk is currently the mainline for 5.1 development. Branches for all product releases back to the original 1.0 release in April 2003 are available to all in the repository for those that need the reference, or the latest code line for a specific version ahead of the milestone release. Hopefully that adds a touch of reality to the thread. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CMS comparison: Farcry vs Razuna vs Sava
2008/9/30 Peter Boughton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone seen a good comparison of these three Content Management Systems? All three appear to be competent fully featured CMS products, but it'd be helpful if there was a guide as to what the benefits and drawbacks of each of them are? (Ideally both from a developer/customisation perspective, and from and an end-user PoV.) I've been involved in the FarCry project since its inception and have a clear vested interest, but for what it's worth, here are my thoughts... Sava This is a CMS solution. It's not specifically designed to be customised and extended. By comparison FarCry is a web application framework you could use to build a Sava. Razuna This is a digital asset management solution, with content management options. If you are after DAM this might be an ideal fit. If you are after a customisable web application platform your mileage may vary. FarCry FarCry is a web application framework for building content rich websites. It is built to be be modified. Over the years we have established a feature rich, out of the box solution for those not so interested in doing development -- FarCry CMS (the framework plus a collection of plugins). FarCry 5.0 supports: Adobe ColdFusion, OpenBD and Railo. MSSQL, mySQL, Postgres and Oracle. Windows, Linux and OSX. IIS and Apache. FarCry has a very active community and many friendly faces happy to help out where possible (http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev). Couple with that a range of commercial support services including priority support, development and instructor lead training and you have a great foundation for even the most ambitious web applications. To get a quick insight into how it works, here are some recordings I did earlier in the year: http://www.farcrycore.org/go/blog-post/recordings-of-farcry-in-action And a fairly detailed interview I did with Sitepoint: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/geoff-bowers-farcry-framework/ Last but not least, the recent addition of the Jump Start course has really made FarCry far more accessible to everyone: http://org.farcrycore.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/farcry-jumpstart-500-20080905.pdf Hopefully that helps! -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CMS comparison: Farcry vs Razuna vs Sava
2008/9/30 Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Our hosting provider didn't get V4 for some time to come well after you released it. By the time they get it do their tests, then they tell us yes we will support it. Then we have to go through our testing of the site nothing special, virtually a standard install, but have to make sure to reduce complaints from the client. Our release cycles for the last two major version releases: 4.0 to 5.0 (30/Mar/07-02/Jun/08): ~14months 3.0 to 4.0 (31/Oct/05-30/Mar/07): ~17months By then the hosting provider still doesn't have version 4, and you are no longer supporting version 3. It's unfortunate that your host was unable to provide you with platform upgrades within those time-frames. Perhaps your host, with whom you have a commercial relationship should be doing more to assist. When are you going to acknowledge that problem? I hear you -- you have a client trapped on 3.x and it doesn't work as you want. I acknowledge it is a problem. I wish we could help everyone all of the time, and sustain ourselves on manna falling from the Gods. Unfortunately, it's not viable to support 3 major releases of a sophisticated code base across multiple operating environments. It's irresponsible for Daemon to do so when it has no clients running on such an outdated code base. The code base is given away freely. Our time in support forums like this is given away freely. In order to continue giving to the CF community Daemon has to generate revenue at some point or go under. We've built some truly wonderful things on the FarCry platform and then given it all up for everyone else to enjoy. We're not perfect -- far from it -- but we work hard to make our community a success. There's no need for this relentless attack on the basis of a bug in a 3 year old system that has been clearly addressed in later releases. Regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: onTap Framework FAST Installation videos
2008/8/20 s. isaac dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have the onTap framework plus ORM and other plugins installed and running inside of 5 minutes, with no coding. And no webserver mapping (re: FarCry). Worth noting that you've been able to run FarCry direct from the webroot since the release of 5.0 earlier this year. I published a video of installing FarCry by dropping into the webroot on OpenBD (of all things) last weekend as fate would have it: http://www.farcrycore.org/tv Regards, geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311355 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
eseminar: introduction to cf components (today!)
Introduction to Adobe(R) ColdFusion(R) Components --- Join us for an introduction to creating ColdFusion components. During this essential eSeminar you'll learn basic ColdFusion syntax, find out how to invoke static ColdFusion methods, and discover where to use the built-in ColdFusion application framework component. 2PM-3PM Sydney Time -- June 27, 2008 (that's today!) Really aimed at those new to ColdFusion and those who might have been thinking about learning how CFCs work but could never find the time. It's an APAC seminar I'm hosting, but i guess anyone is invited :) Meeting room opens about ten minutes before: http://pacific.adobe.acrobat.com/developer Register if you can, but its not essential -- happy to take last minute strays: http://events.adobe.co.uk/cgi-bin/event.cgi?country=paeventid=6781 All the best, geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ Adobe Community Expert for ColdFusion ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: eseminar: introduction to cf components (today!)
2008/6/27 Phillip Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those of us not in the outback, can you please tell us the time in GMT or explain the offset of sydney time? :) Sydney time is normally +10 GMT -- but it depends on your local daylight savings regime. Example: Sydney (Australia - New South Wales)Friday, 27 June 2008, 14:00:00UTC+10 hours EST San Francisco (U.S.A. - California) Thursday, 26 June 2008, 21:00:00UTC-7 hours PDT Corresponding UTC (GMT) Friday, 27 June 2008, 04:00:00 From http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Extending Application.cfc using mappings
2008/5/3 marc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I googled and found this on http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-beta/browse_thread/thread/7ec1c03df22675af suggesting mappings don't work with the extend keyword. Application Specific Mappings are a furphy and do not work as advertised in CF8. It appears that cfimport and extends do not adhere to application specific mappings as defined in Application.cfc in the same way they do to CFIDE based cf mappings. The two types of mapping despite having the same name are very different in practice. As we use inheritance and cfimport a great deal in FarCry this makes using this feature near impossible. The original blog post is here: Application Specific Mappings Are Horribly Broken http://blog.daemon.com.au/go/blog-post/application-specific-mappings-are-horribly-broken I've raised this as an issue with Adobe, but its not regarded as a bug. I've suggested the documentation might be changed to reflect the reality behind application specific mappings limitations -- perhaps that will happen some day. Funnily enough BlueDragon apparently works as advertised, so it may not be an impossible issue to address. Just need more people complaining about it I suspect. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304697 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open Source CMS?
On 16/04/2008, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I decided to give FarCry a try. I have to say it looks great but I cant get the thing installed. No matter what I do I end up with this error: There is already an object named 'ruleHandpicked_aObjects' in the database I know it has to be some thing simple but I cant figure it out. Can any of you give me a hand? I really want to give FarCry a chance. Great! I'd recommend running the FarCry 5.0 (Fortress) install. It's just about to be released. http://docs.farcrycms.org/display/FCDEV50/Fortress+Installation Ah.. I see you're posting in farcry-dev. I'll see what I can do to help you there :) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:303532 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open Source CMS?
On 15/04/2008, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking about using an open source CMS for our intranet admin tools. Any suggestions? I need some thing that has roll based security and is easy to use. I have the majority of the CFCs written so I just need an empty shell to start filling with tools. Couple of great resources if you are considering FarCry: Geoff Bowers on the FarCry Framework http://www.sitepoint.com/article/geoff-bowers-farcry-framework This is an interview I did just this month for Sitepoint on FarCry Core, the CMS and the open source community in general. Plenty of great links to places to get started, the developer guide, our forums and more. FarCry 5.0 (Fortress) eSeminar Recording http://blog.daemon.com.au/go/blog-post/farcry-5-0-fortress-eseminar-recording And you can literally watch FarCry in action through this recorded seminar. The demo went off without a hitch, so its not too bad to sit through -- as long as you can put up with the Aussie accent :) Hope that helps, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:303377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Portals/Portlets in ColdFusion?
On 11/04/2008, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FarCry is another that is rather popular. http://www.farcrycms.org/ Although its certainly not the official portlet standard FarCry does have an elegant publishing rule engine that allows non-technical users to place any sort of ColdFusion functionality into designated areas of your view. I recently did an Adove eSeminar on FarCry Fortress -- the latest release -- which you may find interesting: General Overview (1hr): http://pacific.adobe.acrobat.com/p19146747/ Quick demo of two cool plugins (about 10mins): http://pacific.adobe.acrobat.com/p83934226/ The general overview showcases publishing rules briefly nearer the end of the presentation. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:303224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
On 01/02/2008, Matthew Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, will it meet your requirements the same way as CommonSpot? Depends on your needs. My understanding of CommonSpot is that it makes importing existing content easy (at least according the docs). You can use a WYSIWIG editor to modify templates (again, from what I saw in the docs). You can have a single authoring server and multiple front ends. These are things that FarCry does not do (yet). FarCry is a blessing for data import and export. We don't believe in template authoring through WYSIWYG so its unlikely to appear in the code base without a corporate sponsor. All of the multi-server implementations of FarCry (of which their are many) typically operate on the basis of a single authoring server and multiple front ends. geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
On 01/02/2008, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of support issues). It's a strange mentality given that the standard corporate EULA offers nothing in the way of a warranty or even a guarantee of merchantability. Some like iTunes even ask you to agree that the EULA can change at any time. Interestingly enough, we'll be releasing a FarCry Commercial License this year for the very reasons you nominate. Despite offering support and training for years we still get this open source is not for us mentality cropping up. It's likely our commercial offering will be the same as the open source, with a separate license and some extra libraries. geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297848 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
On 01/02/2008, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found CommonSpot to be the best match with our client base. That's not meant as a criticism of FarCry, though. Please don't hurt me, Geoff. Bah... do I really sound that defensive? Maybe its true -- will endeavour to be my usual meek (as in inherit the earth) self ;) geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297885 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
Rob, On 31/01/2008, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like it's pretty easy to develop for... it's a million times better than FarCry (don't EVEN get me started on that thing, and yeah I know a lot of people like it). My experience of Commonspot compared to other products has not been as delightful as yours. And there are plenty of people who have a diametrically opposed view to yours on the merits of FarCry as a solution. It's unnecessary to voice your obviously negative opinion of a product without any sort of request to do so. If you feel the need to vent, why not vent on the farcry-dev forum where you might let the developers of that product know what you found so objectionable -- we'd love to fix it. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297796 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Paperthin's Commonspot
On 31/01/2008, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought about venting about it on the Farcry list, but figured I would be booted in no time for not being a member of the choir. Not wanting to burn bridges, I chose not to. Constructive criticism is always gratefully received. As for venting here without being asked, I thought this was a list that encouraged all kinds of discussion about CF and related applications. I'm not openly bashing FarCry. I do dislike it for many reasons, but I will refrain from making slanderous remarks about it. And yet you do every post you mention it. I will make two comments about it here and leave it at that for now... 1. It's VERY slow. Even on very fast hardware, it's extremely slow. As I've mentioned previously, this is clearly specific to your environment and setup. The average page execution time for a view in FarCry is typically 200ms on my laptop, configure it properly and you're down to 50ms. (I'm sure other farcry users would be surprised seeing as several serve over a million page impressions per day) 2. If it had even half the documentation that Commonspot had, I would probably still be using it. The new developer guide that was put out fell very short of being useful, and the Wiki is hard to find help in as well. In addition, even posting to the -Dev list was fairly futile. If you would be happy to pay me the license cost of Commonspot, I'd be happy to write your own personal manual :) The developer guide you refer to is in fact a supplement to a three day, instructor-led training course, which is available in Australia and the US. And you'll be happy to hear we've been improving the documentation day by day. A cursory look at the farcry-dev list suggests none of your questions went unanswered and were responded to in a timely fashion. I'm sorry the community advice wasn't sufficient to see you through. In any event, it's good to hear you found a solution that better meets your requirements. geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ PS. Your suggestion to list version details on the login page has been added to the soon to be released FarCry 5.0 (Fortress) -- so not all your posts were futile ;) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297800 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CMS Solution Recommendations
On 30/01/2008, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually FarCry has been recently update to v-4. I played around with it for quite a bit and was very very impressed, and even made sure to vote for it in the webby awards recently. That's great to hear :) And if it were not for the fact that I could not get the stupid navigation to do exactly what I wanted I would have already converted out entire district website over to FarCry. That was the ONLY thing keeping me from implementing it. FarCry generates navigation information as either a cfquery or more usefully as a semantically correct, nested, unordered list. The vast majority of CSS based navigation UI is based on the latter. You probably need a little CSS help on a forum dedicated to CSS design to get things going. The default Mollio [1] template menus are based on the Son of Suckerfish [2] menus. But there are many, many different implementations of UL/LI element based menus out there. All the best, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [1]: http://www.mollio.org/ [2]: http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297683 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CMS Solution Recommendations
On 30/01/2008, Nate Willard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I look at FarCry and it seems that the web site and code hasn't been updated in 2 years? Apologies for letting the side down there. The main website is due for a major revamp and some areas are a little stale.. we're just about to put out a supported beta of FarCry v5 so we're a little bit busy -- its going to be an awesome release. The pubilc site is really just a landing point for the following primary areas of FarCry activity: http://bugs.farcrycms.org/ (issue tracking, roadmaps, etc) http://docs.farcrycms.org/ (docs: user, developer plugins) http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev (primary dev forum) FarCry is about to see its 2nd major release in 2 years -- not to mention v4 has had over 9 maintenance releases. It's a pretty vibrant code base. For those that are interested you can review commits and changes as they happen here: http://fisheye.farcrycms.org/changelog/core/ Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF-based CMS?
On 27/12/2007, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Farcry for a few months, and frankly, I'm fed up with it. I would rather write my own from scratch than continue to use that piece of festering crap. I don't think I've ever heard FarCry [1] described quite that way before. I'm sorry to hear you were unable to create a workable solution but I suspect that has more to do with your implementation than anything else. There is little to no documentation available, There's a large WIKI [2], a busy set of developer forums and a 130pg developer course book available. Of course we'd like the documentation to be better -- we do our best to add something new every day. Perhaps you could help by pointing out more specifically where the documentation is unclear or could be improved. it is incredibly poorly written and buggy, I'm sure there is a mix of both good and bad programming -- there always is in a code base the size of FarCry. On the whole I find it to be a pleasure to work with. We try and address bugs as quickly as we can -- assuming they have been reported [3] (I was unable to see any you may have reported). Given the size of the code base, its complexity and the speed of ongoing development we're bound to miss a few. it is SLOW, Actually its not. There are several very large implementations of FarCry worldwide that perform extremely well. I'd suggest your performance issues revolve around the specifics of your implementation. and it is confusing even for a 10+ year CF veteran such as myself. Like any development framework you need to take the time to learn the framework -- no amount of CF experience is going to help bluster through. My client is mystified by it and has refused to use it. That is a grand shame. I suspect that has more to do with the way the solution was presented to them rather than the solution itself. Certainly FarCry works for our clients, and many others besides. Raise your problems on the FarCry forums -- we may be able to help you through. If not, hopefully you can find a solution better suited to your requirements. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [1]: http://www.farcrycms.org/ [2]: http://docs.farcrycms.org/ [3]: http://bugs.farcrycms.org/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:295466 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Database vs. Verity Search
Mark, Don't see this as a specific endorsement of Verity -- but I thought I should answer given I wrote the bulk of Verity plugin for FarCry framework [1]. On 11/12/2007, Mark Picker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Verity engine is a little more limited than what I originally thought, for example: you can only search the contents of the body, not the custom1, 2, 3 and 4 fields or the title field. This is not entirely true. You can search specifically for or filter for any content indexed against the four custom fields. I don't believe you can filter specifically against the title. At least not through verity. Note the sample search page for FarCry may not take advantage of this fact. Obviously to filter for a specific field you need a UI that can nominate the filter and so on. I did have a look at using the new Category feature, but aside from it still being too limited (by the amount of fields I possibly need to filter by) it's considerably slower to search than when not using categories. Using a small sample of 1250 records, searching without categories took an average of 150ms, when restricting the same search using categories it took on average 3500ms. I think this may have been a cf7 specific issue -- are you running cf8? If not you may see an improvement in this area by upgrading. Either way I can confirm that category searches on cf7 were not a great option -- we dumped them entirely. You actually have a lot of options if you can populate the custom fields correctly, and hopefully the Verity plugin for FarCry is at least doing that much for you: - you can break your content into multiple collections -- FarCry already does this by content type - you can definitely filter within the CUSTOM field -- you just need to look for the specific syntax in the verity docs - you can do a search within search results using CFSEARCH by nominating the *previouscriteria* attribute - you can also perform Query of Query filters on the resulting Verity record set. Interestingly enough, the following website uses all of the above techniques: http://www.taxinstitute.com.au/go/search/advanced-search All the best, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [1]: http://www.farcrycms.org/ ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294482 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Call For Papers: webDU 2008
Call For Papers: webDU 2008 === GO: http://www.webdu.com.au/go/call-for-papers And so it begins -- the sixth Asia-Pacific web developers conference, web DownUnder 2008! * Website: http://www.webdu.com.au/ * Conference Dates: 7-9 May 2008 * Conference Venue: Star City, Sydney Australia Fresh from the resounding success that was webDU 2007, we are raring to go for webDU 2008. If you have something new and revolutionary, some tricks of the trade to share, want to help your fellow developers or you're just pure passionate for web technology, don't miss your chance to take part in webDU 2008. This time we are bigger and brighter, with workshops and a swish venue not to mention the back drop of Sydney itself! Treat yourself to an essential junket from the office, mix with other gurus and pontificate to the great unwashed. Oh the life of a conference speaker. IMPORTANT DATES -- * Submissions are due by: Friday, 7 December 2007 * Notification will be sent by: Friday, 21 December 2007 * Presentation first draft: Friday, 7 March 2008 * Final submission and presentation slides: Friday, 04 April 2008 * Conference Workshops: Wednesday, 07 May 2008 * webDU Conference: Thursday-Friday, 08-09 May 2008 * Speaker BBQ: Saturday, 10 May 2008 Announcement List -- Keep up to date by joining our low-volume announcement list at: http://groups.google.com/group/webdu-ann/about Full details available at: http://www.webdu.com.au/go/call-for-papers Bring it on! -- geoff http://www.webdu.com.au/ ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291730 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Boomsocket Alpha Trial
On 20/10/2007, jonese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our office takes any comments to heart. Good and Bad! I'm glad you brought it up and the conversation / sign-ups it's spawned. Hopefully we'll get others involved and we'll have that MySQL / PostgreSQL sooner rather then later! How does Boomsocket compare to FarCry [1]? Are there any specific features you think make the whole Boomsocket story particularly compelling? If anyone else has any other thoughts please share them directly with us [EMAIL PROTECTED], here at CF-TALK or join our google group. http://groups.google.com/group/boomsocketalpha Have tried to join the boomsocketalpha list but I keep getting rejected. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [1]: http://www.farcrycms.org/ ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: #$^% Forms!
On 25/09/2007, Michael David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I admit it; I hate developing forms! There's not one part of the process that I find even remotely interesting, enlightening, or fulfilling. Forms suck. Now that I got that off of my chest, does anyone know of some nifty-cool program/guy in a dark room halfway around the world/magic spell that would help with most of the more mundane aspects of the process. Did I mention that I hate developing forms?!?! Just stumbled across your message in gMail. Have you tried the FarCry Framework's formtools technology? Even if you don't have any interest in FarCry per se, the way forms are managed might spark some ideas for automating your own form development. There is a basic summary here: http://docs.farcrycms.org:8080/confluence/display/FCDEV40/Formtools+Technology And a complete FarCry Developer Course available here: http://blog.daemon.com.au/go/blog-post/farcry-4-0-training-course-released Anyhoot, thought you might be interested. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Any experienced FarCry users out there?
On 03/10/2007, Scott Weikert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a CMS-ish type project heading my way, and was pondering using FarCry for the first time with it. I've got some questions that I'd like to ask someone who's been around the block with FarCry. So - anyone out there that fits that description, and is willing to field a few questions via email - please email me directly, OFF-LIST, so we don't pester everyone else. :D You might try the farcry-dev google group for questions: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev Hopefully my MAX Inspire session on tomorrow will record ok: http://blog.daemon.com.au/go/blog-post/inspire-session-farcry-core-is-more-than-just-a-cms Daemon are always happy to run through a demo of the core framework on Connect, just give us a shout.. All the best, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289973 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
FarCry Core is More Than Just a CMS
Folks, I'm putting together a session on FarCry Core web application framework for MAX Chicago. Hoping that cf-talkers might be able to offer some sage advice. I've got an hour to inspire folks to have a crack at using FarCry, so as someone who doesn't use the framework, what would spark your interest? Have got a little blog post where comments would be welcomed -- perhaps a more appropriate location for feedback than clogging cf-talk. Any thoughts much appreciated. Inspire Session: FarCry Core is More Than Just a CMS Been working on an entertaining demo of what FarCry Core is really all about; building web applications. If you're at MAX be sure to check out my Inspire session on Wednesday after lunch. I'll be around for the week, talking up ColdFusion and the whole FarCry caper. http://blog.daemon.com.au/go/blog-post/inspire-session-farcry-core-is-more-than-just-a-cms Looking forward to seeing folks at MAX Chicago -- tell your friends :) -- geoff bowers Director Daemon Internet Consultants Sydney, Australia w. http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287883 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cms
On 01/05/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only complaint I have so far is the lack of how to's and support from the mailing lists, and wiki. As I am knew to farcry, and maintaining a site developed in it getting answers from docs or developers has been poor so far. It might reflect the version of FarCry you are running. Last I saw you were running something much older than the current version. Unfortunately, altruistic folks aren't going to be all that enthusiastic about supporting early versions as they are unlikely to be running these themselves. You could always get commercial training/support ;) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276597 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cms
On 28/04/07, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I evaluated FarCry some time ago. It seemed pretty arcane as far as getting started and I didn't find much of a developer community. These sorts of responses are far from helpful. FarCry has had an active developer community since it was released to open source in April 2003. It's one of the largest CF communities out there. You might try your hand at the various mailing lists: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-beta http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-user Aggregated here: http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html There's also commercial support, development and instructor based training available in the southern and northern hemispeheres. Contact Daemon for details: http://www.daemon.com.au/ FarCry 4.0 is nothing short of a revolution and has been in release candidate for some time. I'd say the FarCry community is certainly worth taking a moment to talk to -- we're a pretty helpful bunch from all over the globe. I'd be happy to showcase the framework and CMS solution to anyone who has the inclination -- just drop me a note. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.farcrycms.org/ ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cms
Will, On 28/04/07, Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, so far I can echo your sentiments about Farcry, which is a shame. However, I shall persevere with my evaluation anyway. I'm happier with an open source CF based system if possible, because we will need to do some tweaking no doubt, or possibly add in our own components. The client has a requirement for a Flash media player and library, with dynamic content delivered according to user level, which I am imagining having to build myself - Flex sounds ideal for this. I'd encourage you to get in touch with our team or at least the FarCry development community. We welcome the chance to showcase the platform and answer enquiries from any potential customer of FarCry. We have a services model built around the product that provides support, training and/or development for the platform -- so there's our vested interest. We're happy to play as small or as large as a role as you need -- even if that's just to evangelise about how the solution works. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cms
On 28/04/07, Leitch, Oblio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've worked with FarCry. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone with less than an army of developers, and not for production, yet. (I'm not saying it's bad, just not out-of-the-box enough.) Hmm.. FarCry is an extremely *productive* framework for even a single developer, that has been running in production environments since the time CFMX was first released. Again I'd welcome anyone who wants a tour of the platform to talk to the FarCry community itself - we'd be happy to help. http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276532 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open Source ColdFusion CMS
Adrian, On 22/01/07, Adrian Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only real 'negative' we found/find is that the updates seem to be a bit, ahm, let's say undisciplined. We currently use FarCry 3.02 - and while there are still a few open issues that Deamon could work on...they already work on FarCry 4. I'd prefer to sort out 95% of the FC3 issues, before moving on to FC4. Hmm.. as an open source project we really only have any obligation to our clients and ourselves when it comes to choosing to work on one version or other. It's got more to do with the resources, motivation and time available than the discipline of the development team. But I'm sure you didn't mean to come off sounding quite so negative. But generally it's easy to fix the most annoying problems yourself. Plus, we're a fairly large organisation and probably use FarCry in a way that pushes a CMS' usability to limits - any CMS'. If you only have one or two contributors working on a site, you'll be totally fine. But then, maybe you might want to look out for something even simpler in that case anyhow. It's great to hear you have fixed a bunch of annoying bugs. We'd be grateful if you could register these bugs and their fixes with the greater community so that the whole FarCry movement can benefit from your good works. Bugs can be raised with fixes attached here: http://bugs.farcrycms.org/ Awareness about these issues, perhaps for the purpose of escalating your fixes review and addition to the code base, can be raised here: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev Thanks for helping out, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:267828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Advice needed on how to proceed with app...
Munson, Jacob wrote: Sounds like a good plan to me. The only suggestion I'd make is to look at something like Farcry for your CMS parts. Farcry is an enterprise CMS. Your average real estate agent will *NOT* be able to use it. It's fortunate that you can rewrite the UI for every element of FarCry to make it as simplistic as you need. The zero programming effort, out of the box solution cannot be all things to all people, all the time. On 02/12/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a good CMS that is for sure, but I certainly wouldn't class it as Enterprise. Neil you regularly spout this tripe. Many of us in the FarCry community use FarCry for *very* large and complex installations every day. We often wonder how it is we ever managed with such a simplistic application framework. The proof is in the pudding -- when you build enterprise class applications time and time again with a product it stands to reason that you come to associate the platform as being enterprise. But then I guess it depends on what on earth the class of enterprise means to you. geoff http://www.fullasagoog.com/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262574 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Managing more than one site and growing
On 04/11/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't used it either. My understanding is that it's somewhat like Spectra, and I know that caused a lot of screaming in its day. Spectra was more of a CMS application framework than an application, in my opinion, as opposed to something like CommonSpot, which can be implemented very quickly with a little basic template knowledge. The advantage of a Spectra-like approach is its flexibility, and I imagine that Farcry provides the same advantage. FarCry shares some of the same theoretical approaches to content management that Spectra had, but none of the internal machinery. Most peoples difficulty with FarCry stems from the installation -- and often this is caused by an assumption that reading the manual is not required. FarCry CMS is an out of the box solution that runs atop the FarCry Framework. It's both a solution and a tool box for building more sophisticated options. Although still in beta FarCry 4.0 is shaping up to be a very exciting release for developers. Probably not something you want to race out and install if you don't like to tinker, but well worth keeping an eye out. geoff http://www.farcrycms.org/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Managing more than one site and growing
On 06/11/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FarCry shares some of the same theoretical approaches to content management that Spectra had, but none of the internal machinery. Most peoples difficulty with FarCry stems from the installation -- and often this is caused by an assumption that reading the manual is not required. Presumably, unlike Spectra, no blood sacrifice is required. LOL -- we also had a routine that involved sacrificial chickens, and spinning around three times for luck. Amongst other things, the CF/Siteminder implementation (more affectionately known as Sitekiller) left a lot to be desired. FarCry CMS is an out of the box solution that runs atop the FarCry Framework. It's both a solution and a tool box for building more sophisticated options. That sounds a little better for most people. I don't think Spectra gave you much in the way of a workable front-end. Aye. FarCry installs with a very workable front end. Beyond perhaps changing the look and feel, little or no modification is required to have a fully operational site. This has left many with the misconception that FarCry only does content management and nothing else. geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259241 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney == The Antipodes premier CF conference is on again :) Dates Call for Papers -- The dates and venue for webDU 2007 [1] released. * 22-23 March 2007 (THU-FRI) * The Hilton, Sydney Australia * Plus a workshop day, 21 March 2007 (WED) Also we've opened the Call For Papers [2]; veterans and budding presenters alike, please send in your submissions. [1]: http://www.webdu.com.au/ [2]: http://www.webdu.com.au/go/call-for-papers webDU Announcements -- There's a new announcements only mailing list [3] -- no discussions. As a consequence it's really very low volume; less than a post a week on average. And you'll only see posts from me keeping you up to date on the latest changes to the conference agenda and activities surrounding the conference. [3]: http://groups.google.com/group/webdu-ann/about That's all for now! Geoff Bowers Conference Manager webDU Conference Team http://www.webdu.com.au/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:255939 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Commercial/Open Source CF based CMS
On 9/18/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it rollback or promote versioning? I suspect it is promote versioning -- in that when you roll back it simply promotes the older version to be the new live object and automatically archives the current live object. The history of the object is preserved. But that's my guess at what you mean -- in the CMS world every man and his goat has their own glossary of terms. I like FarCry, always have done but it does require a lot of tinkering code wide to get it working. It is one of the best ColdFusion CMS apps in the market (way better than CommonSpot, which is one of the so called market leaders). FarCry can be light on features compared to other tools, but that is the price of flexibility. It also does not have a publishing model built in as far as I know which can be a problem for some. One of the advantages for those of us who like to tinker is that the code base improves the way we want it to. Point in fact FarCry 4.0 is due to go into beta early next week. re: light on features -- I beg to differ on this but there's no point boring people here with a CMS shoot out. re: publishing model -- I assume you mean to flat HTML? I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be in a screaming hurry to buy into an expensive publishing model when you can implement robust solutions like HTTRACK [1] and reverse proxies like SQUID [2] to provide convenient flat HTML equivalents of dynamically served sites. [1]: http://www.httrack.com/ [2]: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/ReverseProxy When we chose our system, we did not limit ourself to just ColdFusion, it would be stupid to, we looked at many, including Vignette. We chose a system with the greatest toolset. Sure it was expensive and it has it's quirks :-) we can happily use ColdFusion, Java, .NET inside the CMS. If you can afford it, do your research and don't just look at ColdFusion apps. It took is nearly a year to evaluate products. What a crazy old world we live in... -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253408 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Commercial/Open Source CF based CMS
Pete, On 9/18/06, Pete Ruckelshaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my feeling that we are not so far into the project that converting over to a commercial or open source CF-based (CFMX 7) content management system might be a better option than trying to apply band-aids until the existing system does what we need it to do. Retrofitting workflow, versioning, publicaiton rules, and a good security scheme would be painful and expensive. So, I'm looking at what other options exist. I took a look at CommonSpot's web site, and it seems to offer most if not all of what we need, but at $20k. I looked at the FarCry CMS web site, and it looks OK, but there's no indication of whether the advanced functionality that I need for the site is part of the app. I think you will find that FarCry CMS offers a host of very advanced features; for example, services include workflow, versioning and rollback, roles based security model, containers and publishing rules, media library management, and very powerful extensibility options. What you see out of the box from the default installation is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of functionality. You might try the Features and Technical Whitepapers available here as a starter (note these have not been updated to include the latest raft of features in 3.0): http://www.farcrycms.org/go/documentation/ Perhaps the easiest way to showcase the advanced FarCry features is to highlight some of the larger installations. There are complex solutions hosting over 1mil page impressions daily, and/or encompassing in excess of 50,000 content items, plus a horde of smaller installations: Mayo Clinic http://www.mayoclinic.com/ Bluescope Steel http://www.bluescopesteel.com.au/ Taxation Institute of Australia http://www.taxinstitute.com.au/ Lonely Planet Worldguide http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/ To name a few... And, of course, there's the Community Source version of Spectra, but having been responsible for building, deploying, and maintaining Spectra sites in the past, I'm not sure if I want to travel down that path again. Spectra Community Source would be a path full of peril. If you are familiar with the concepts in Spectra then many of the conceptual approaches in FarCry are similar; for example, content objects, publishing rules, and so on. However, we approach the whole COAPI in a completely different architectural way which avoids many of the inherent Spectra issues; for example, the database is a straight forward relational model. Plus FarCry is many generations on from where Spectra 1.5 left off. Of these tools, which offers what I am looking for, and are there others out there that I should consider? Given the nature of the client (demanding, deep pockets) and the timeframe involved (they pretty much always want everything yesterday), I certainly don't want to move forward with the home-grown solution. Daemon provide a range of commercial support plans for both developer and non-developer teams. Plus we offer instructor based training for both Contributors and Developers in Australia and America. Please feel free to contact me directly for more details. For more FarCry specific testimonials and/or advice you might try the FarCry support forums/mailing list: http://www.farcrycms.org/go/support/community-support Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253392 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Commercial/Open Source CF based CMS
James, On 9/18/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoff, while we've got you in this thread, does FarCry offer a full history of every change to a page (i.e. is is possible to be able to say exactly what was displayed publicly in a page at any given time, along with who made it look that way)? If so, can the rollback go back to every version of the page in the history? Versioning can be turned on/off for any specific content type -- so has to be turned on for the specific content type in question. Out of the box, all relevant content types have versioning turned on. Editing a live content item creates an underlying DRAFT content item. When this is approved, the current live content item database record is archived. This archive is permanent by default, although many folks set a maintenance task to wipe archives older than a certain date. The limit is really a question of database size - these days that's pretty much as many as you like. There is an option to archive associated media assets such as images and files. These are copied to a specific archive location outside of the web root. Rollback is based on the record only. Most of the time this is all you need. However, if you have changed or deleted the associated content templates (display methods) the restore will show the current look and feel or only show a dump of the record in question respectively. System wide attributes for content include createdby, lastupdatedby and owner fields. Plus there is an audit trail for all activities which you can report against. Hope that helps, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253396 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Commercial/Open Source CF based CMS
On 9/18/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, that's the sort of info we're after. As a University we are bound by the State Records Act and because of this we must be able to show / reconstruct exactly what a visitor saw on our site at any given time. It sounds like everything necessary to do that is available in FarCry. The technique used (creating a draft item etc) is exactly how I handle it in the mini-cms I wrote a while ago. It may be of some interest that a host of CF based Universities run FarCry as their preferred CMS. To name but a few: http://www.whitman.edu/ http://www.aftrs.edu.au/ http://www.mbs.edu/ http://www.wit.tafensw.edu.au/ http://jd.law.unimelb.edu.au/ http://undergraduate.law.unimelb.edu.au/ http://graduate.law.unimelb.edu.au/ http://www.law.unimelb.edu.au/ http://www.mgsm.edu.au/ http://arc.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/ http://uteach.utexas.edu/ http://ci.fsu.edu/ (run out of energy now...) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253398 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Framework suggestions
Brian, On 7/3/06, Brian Rinaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to disagree with you, obviously you know FarCry far better than I, but my email was based upon my experiences with prior and existing versions of FarCry (and was not a criticism). Nonetheless, I do take a bit of issue with calling FarCry a framework. Yes it is extensible and offers you any number of ways of extending the core without modifying the code, but so do most other enterprise level CMS systems I have looked at...are they all then Frameworks? If these CMS systems allow you to build non-CMS solutions then yes they would be generic application frameworks. I suspect its simply an issue of semantics -- though I'd argue strongly that my interpretation of the term application framework is widely accepted [1]. To take a slightly different tack.. if I can use FarCry to build a federated login solution for multiple applications, or a shopping cart system complete with payment gateway and billing integration, or construct a CRM solution etc. ignoring any CMS features that might be present -- at what point does it cease to be seen as a CMS? The reality is that nearly every web-based application requires a degree of content management -- it is a commodity requirement. In order to be described as a framework should we rebuild the FarCry distribution, stripping out all the built-in CMS options or is it better to leave them in there and ignore those features when we don't need them? An argument can be made of this I suppose, but this seems to blur the line and perhaps confuse people. I know FourQ used to be packaged seperately from FarCry, but this does not seem to be the case any longer...FourQ would appear to be more along the lines of what I would call a framework based on what I know about it at this point...but as the last time I checked I couldn't find it available for download seperately (and wasn't what he was asking for anyway)...if it is available let me know because I searched in the hopes of adding it to the open source list independently. FourQ is equivalent to Reactor in terms of its role in FarCry as compared to Reactor's role in Model Glue Unity. FourQ is really quite specialised -- and although it has very specific benefits for the FarCry framework, it's specificity makes it less useful for generic use than say Reactor which can be more readily swapped in/out as an ORM. FourQ can still be downloaded independently from the FarCry SVN repos. As we thought we were the only ones using it we've been gradually internalising the ORM into the FarCry framework. If there was significant interest I'm sure it would be relatively easy to decouple. But again I'm not trying to drum up support for FarCry... really ;) We use it, we love it -- it's ideal for much of the work we do. And an increasing amount of that work done in FarCry would not be described as CMS related. Again Is suspect we're not really debating anything more than the interpretation of the words application framework. All the best, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [1] http://www.answers.com/topic/application-framework ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245274 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Framework suggestions
Damien McKenna wrote: On Jun 30, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Russ wrote: We are in need to build a fairly sophisticated system in a few months. Are you looking for a basic framework or a customizable application? If a framework then I'd have to say either Model-Glue:Unity or Fusebox5 and I'm tending towards MG:U myself. If you want a customizable application then you really need to download install FarCry to see how well it works for you, I've heard some horror stories of it being complicated to enhance beyond basic content management. Ahem... we work on complex solutions every day built entirely in FarCry... before you believe everything you hear you might actually try the framework [1], and perhaps join the farcry-dev forum [2] to enquire there. For a quick overview, there is a recent breezo introducing farcry, how it works out of the box, and how you go about extending the environment [3]. Enjoy! -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [1] http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev/about [2] FarCry Getting Started Guide http://blog.daemon.com.au/index.cfm?objectid=7E8FA9A1-EA69-0EC7-F2DD9803CB1F37D0 [3] FarCry Gonzales (v3.1) Sneak Peek http://blog.daemon.com.au/index.cfm?objectid=6A02CB77-EA69-0EC7-F788E9996C14F678 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245238 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Framework suggestions
Brian Rinaldi wrote: FarCry CMS is a full enterprise content management system. It is not actually a framework at all and would bear no resemblance to Model-Glue, FuseBox or Mach II. FarCry does include a means of extending the base CMS Without meaning to get into a frameworks debate.. or even to suggest that FarCry would be appropriate for this specific project.. I am obliged to point out that FarCry is in fact a framework, and differs only in that it ships with an integrated solution and related services out of the box. That solution is a CMS. functionality and this requires the use of built in extensions. You can also extend FarCry with custom code I believe, and you could use whatever framework for that, but this would exist outside the core of FarCry if I am correct. In the end, FarCry is very extensible, but there is a bit of a learning curve, and modifying the core code would require quite a bit of experience in my opinion (and cuts you out of any upgrades in the future - at least without a major headache) The very fact that the solution is extensible belies the framework underneath it. Modifying the core would be as necessary as modifying the MG or Reactor or (insert framework) core library files -- you just wouldn't do it except in the most unusual circumstances. I've been involved in FarCry projects to build ecommerce solutions, CRM projects, federated logins, complex XML syndication and publish services, employee directories, membership services, and more in the last year alone. Anyhoot.. I've no intention of beating a drum here.. just feel its important to clarify the *actual* capabilities of FarCry. Like any framework it's got to be appropriate to the task at hand - FarCry just happens to work very well for our team for all manner of projects. Galleon and BlogCFC do not use a prebuilt framework, and would exist outside whatever framework you choose unless you decided to rewrite them to fit within one of the frameworks. I believe both Galleon and BlogCFC have been integrated into FarCry by members of the FarCry community -- in truth I suspect the exercise would be relatively straightforward for most frameworks. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ http://www.farcrycms.org/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245239 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Where does everyone blog?
On 6/18/06, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check out the Macromedia XML News Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna/ Come now Ray.. everyone knows discerning readers get their fill at Fullasagoog: http://www.fullasagoog.com/ -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244070 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Where does everyone blog?
On 6/18/06, Dave Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'm still the only one using FarCry (an open-source ColdFusion CMS) as a blogging platform. FarCry's out-of-the-box news content type is perfectly suited to this - I just had to add the commenting mechanism, which took about an hour. I think it's cool because it allows me to build out a site in addition to having a blog. We are using FarCry for the ColdSpring site as well. Daemonite also uses FarCry as a blogging platform: http://blog.daemon.com.au/ I'm looking at starting up a separate farcry blog (original name) project to make our efforts more readily available ;) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244071 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CM?
On 6/1/06, Nathan Mische [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Love the Farcry!! A bit scattered on the learning curve, but it's a great program at a great price!! Geoff Bowers recently posted a FarCry Getting Started Guide to help get users up to speed with FarCry: http://blog.daemon.com.au/index.cfm?objectid=7E8FA9A1-EA69-0EC7-F2DD9803CB1F37D0 You might also like to take a look at the most recent FarCry presentation, that goes through the open source licensing, a swift product overview and a quick demo of FarCry development: http://blog.daemon.com.au/index.cfm?objectid=6A02CB77-EA69-0EC7-F788E9996C14F678 -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241884 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Ann: FarCry Gonzales (v3.1) Sneak Peek
Folks, Don't know how many folks got a chance to see the presentation. In any event, it was recorded and I put together a script highlighting the various parts of the gig. Makes it easy to fast forward for the impatient :) FarCry Gonzales (v3.1) Sneak Peek http://blog.daemon.com.au/index.cfm?objectid=6A02CB77-EA69-0EC7-F788E9996C14F678 Enjoy! -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241707 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfreport builder - page breaks
On 4/17/06, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/17/06, Terry Troxel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was meaning use plain jane cfm with querys, grouping, etc and count lines in order to calculate page breaks cfinclude a header, add a page number, Ah, OK, I see now. Considering that this report will contain 9 other subreports that have already been created with complex grouping and calculations, that's not really a feasible option - it would take me weeks to re-do all the logic in the other reports, and I'm hoping to deliver a rough version of this by the end of today (it's the morning still for me!). I'm a big believer in using the right tool for the job - and while it's been difficult to work with, the report builder *is* designed for building reports. Report Builder would be great for the job.. alas it has no manual page-break option. Its a feature enhacement I've been lobbying for an age. Please add your thoughts to the wish-list or pursue Dean Harmon directly through his blog ;) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237889 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF CMS recommendation
On 3/24/06, Hugo Ahlenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | FarCry 3.0 is aimed at revising FarCry's old techie UI to a much | more appealing Glamourous UI: | http://docs.farcrycms.org:8080/confluence/display/FCDEV30/Admin+UI | | It's probably fair to say the solution is more on the complex side to | set up, but its designed for non-technical users to operate. So what is the realistic time frame for 3.0? ### Um.. FarCry 3.0 [1] was released in November 2005. We're just about to release 3.0.1, followed by a webskin for Mollio [2] (a template resource we released to the public at the webDU [3] conference 1-March) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [1] http://www.farcrycms.org/ [2] http://www.mollio.org/ [3] http://www.webdu.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236116 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF CMS recommendation
On 3/24/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for FarCry. I've not been using it lately, but I built a string of apps with it about a year ago. It's very customizable and I'll agree with Larry that it's pretty complex and leans toward the more technical user base. It is, though, a very nice CMS and I enjoyed working with it. FarCry 3.0 is aimed at revising FarCry's old techie UI to a much more appealing Glamourous UI: http://docs.farcrycms.org:8080/confluence/display/FCDEV30/Admin+UI It's probably fair to say the solution is more on the complex side to set up, but its designed for non-technical users to operate. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236104 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?
On 1/28/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, there is, but it cannot compete with the likes of CommonSpot when it comes to features out of the box - not to say that it isn't a good CMS - I know it is, but its very very light on features. Many of us would disagree with such a statement; the market suggests that FarCry does appear to compete well and often. This is especially surprising considering it has no marketing machinery behind it -- it simply stands on its own merits. Of course, those of us actively developing FarCry would be very interested to hear what you consider a feature, and those features you feel we might be very very light on. Rather than damning with faint praise I think it would help to hear where you think we can put our efforts to improve things. For example, the most current feature list document for FarCry is 14 pages A4 and was written in 2003 -- and we've come a long way since then. To date, the general efforts of the FarCry community have been focused on providing an extensible platform where it is relatively easy to customise your solution to your specific requirements. It's true, we don't have things like a poll feature or other very simplistic innovations. We try and concentrate on making it easy to write your own poll rather than being compelled to use the products version of a poll, if you get my meaning. In any event, we are always eager to hear feedback on key features that should be implemented: http://www.farcrycms.org/go/support/community-support or the web forum aggregate of the lists at: http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230658 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?
On 1/28/06, John Beynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you class as large scale? users? pages? I suspect that enterprise aka large scale CMS can mean a multitude of things to a multitude of people :) To me it's the complexity of the project; migration issues, editing requirements, content types and their relationships and so on. With caching technology and clustering what it is today, there are very few well budgeted sites that really have performance issues. We work a lot with the FarCry platform, both in the capacity of building and supporting small to large scale projects. Its not the be and end all, and its not going to be the magic bullet for any CMS environment, however, we've worked with a variety of teams to release some very complex sites using FarCry in the last year, for example: Mayo Clinic http://www.mayoclinic.com/ Lonelyplanet Worldguide http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/ Bluescope Steel http://www.bluescopesteel.com.au/ Mind you the teams involved are miracle workers considering the FarCry platform is virtually bereft of features... -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230660 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OpenSource CMS
On 1/18/06, Daniel Hikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know a good OpenSource CMS on CFMX 6 Linux. I looked a litte around and found Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) but it seems to work only on Windows plattforms. Actually FarCry runs fine on Linux. There are just no specific tar balls available for download. You can retrieve the code base direct from CVS or drop a note to the developer mailing list -- there is bound to be someone who can give you a tar-ball of a recent milestone release. The most recent 3.0 release has a few casing issues with filenames under linux so I'd be aiming to get a copy of the release candidate for 3.01 by getting the latest code from the p300 branch -- fixes should already be in place there. Again best to join the farcry-dev list for more detailed help: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev/about Or post through the web forum (which is linked to the mailing list): http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html Hope that helps, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229846 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Mapping doesn't work
On 1/14/06, Michael Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the free CF development edition, and have been for quite a while, for personal testing. I've never had to use mapping before, but I want to try out FarCry and it suggests mapping. So I mapped. It doesn't work. I have no idea why, and I can't find any help by googling. Firstly I'd suggest you post to farcry-dev list rather than cf-talk; you're going to get a much better response there: Web Forum: http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html Mailing List: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev/about Logical path: /farcry Directory path: C:\CFusionMX7\farcry_core\admin Yet when I go to localhost:8500/farcry/install/ I get a 404. This makes no sense to me. Any suggestions? There is an installation guide and even an installation video. I'd refer to these first: http://www.farcrycms.org/go/downloads/ There are two mappings: one is a coldfusion mapping to the location of the farcry_core codebase and the other is a web server mapping (or virtual) to the farcry admin interface. You need *both* of these in place. It sounds like you have no web server mapping. Hope that helps, -- geoff http://www.farcrycms.org/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229604 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: eGovernment and Wiki's --- anyone making Wiki's with CF?
On 1/12/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like you want a content management system rather than a wiki. The difference being you give people access to edit your content instead of a free-for-all system. Check out Farcry, an open source, CF based CMS. Personally I haven't tried it, but I did attend their demo at CFUnited 2005, and I was pretty impressed. Thanks for that :) Not our demo per se just an enthusiastic member of the community at CFUnited. Current link for FarCry community site: http://www.farcrycms.org/ I thought I might chime in to say I've been using a WIKI as an experiment for building developer documentation for the FarCry community. You can see our efforts here: http://bugs.farcrycms.org:8080/confluence/dashboard.action We tried this in FarCry initially but WIKI and CMS are not really equivalent. A wiki is a very niche sort of CMS; very interactive and very organis. And although I'm sure we could engineer FarCry to run in wiki mode I'm not sure about the return on investment given the multitude of specialist wiki engines out there. I'm a late convert to the WIKI seen.. but I quite like working with them once you get going. I think however you need the right content project and a community of wiki users ie people who know how it works or are prepared to learn -- this isn't the general public just yet. Navigational concepts get a bit blurry and its important that people who really do know what they are doing constantly keep pruning the wiki so to speak, otherwise it gets out of hand, and/or whithers and dies. We're using Confluence. Its Java and its commercial (unless you are an open source project) but its very much more sophisticated than the variety of other WIKIs I've tried to set up: http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/ If you are building wikis you wouldn't go far wrong trying to benchmark against Confluence's feature set -- it's really a great product. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229274 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
FarCry 3.0 Sneak-Peek Breezo Recordings
Folks, I recorded the FarCry CMS 3.0 sneak-peek breezos as promised. Each has a very similar intro, but the QA for each session was quite different. Europe was the last presentation I did so arguably I'd got the demo down pat by then -- but heh. FarCry Glamourpuss USA Duration: 01:20:14 http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p88074831/ FarCry Glamourpuss AUNZ Duration: 01:16:30 http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p43642718/ FarCry Glamourpuss Europe Duration: 01:11:35 http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p93217675/ If you need to OD on all of them I'd suggest that you see the first 50mins of one and then the QA which starts around the 50min mark on each (give or take 5mins). Note that in a Breeze recording you can open the index and fast forward to specific parts of the presentation (nice Breeze feature) which saves you from having to wait. Enjoy! -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ On behalf of the FarCry Community http://www.farcrycms.org/ PS. Apologies for any cross-posts! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:219987 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: FarCry 3.0 Sneak-Peek Breezo Recordings
On 10/5/05, Webmaster at FastTrack On Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just having a crack at the Farcry 2 installation over the weekend, and then saw the email in here from you. Do you have a projected release date for V3 please? FarCry 3.0 is currently in beta3: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/downloads/farcry-beta-glamour (note that the zip distribution is typically a 1-2 weeks behind the CVS repository) We're looking to release a release candidate this Friday (another zip available at the above link). And to follow that with a production release the following friday. We're already pushing minor changes and enhancements to the maintenance branch for 3.0. You can get a handle on outstanding issues at the roadmap: http://bugs.farcrycms.org:8080/browse/FC?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel If you are starting out I'd definitely go straight to 3.0 We have many sites already running in production and there are several large teams working on 3.0 in development for production release of apps in the October timeframe. So we're close. Your best bet for support are the newly migrated lists at Google groups: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-beta/about http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev/about http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-user/about All of which are aggregated at our web forum: http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html All the best, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220085 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss
Starting the first of these in less than an hour if there are any last minute takers. 5am starts are *shiver* too early -- off to get some sort of hot brew. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ On 9/23/05, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, FarCry 3.0 is almost upon us. Codenamed Glamour, this build has been all about usability. And not just about making tasks intuitive. We've spent a lot of life blood making it look schmick. Join us 29/30 Sept in a sneak-preview breezo to find out what the FarCry Community has been up to. USA FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 29 Sept 2005 * 3pm US Central or 6am Sydney, Australia (30 Sept) * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcryusa/event/registration.html AU/NZ FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 30 Sept 2005 * 3pm Sydney, Australia or 5pm New Zealand or 12 midnight US Central (29 Sept) * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcry/event/registration.html EUROPE FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 30 Sept 2005 * 10am United Kingdom , or 7pm Sydney, Australia * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcryeu/event/registration.html More information availabe on Daemonite: http://blog.daemon.com.au/archives/000324.html FarCry beta 3 released this morning at: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/downloads/farcry-beta-glamour Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:219683 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss
On 9/30/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will any of these be available as breeze recordings? I've recorded this mornings meeting... I was close on 60mins for the presentation... and I recorded the first 30mins of QA.. the final 30mins QA is not there.. but heh 90mins is prolly enough for anyone. I'll look to record the others and keep the best one (which I'll email to the list). Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ PS. If you missed the US one you can always jump on board the Antipodean or European ones this afternoon :) AU/NZ FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 30 Sept 2005 * 3pm Sydney, Australia or 5pm New Zealand or 12 midnight US Central (29 Sept) * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcry/event/registration.html EUROPE FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 30 Sept 2005 * 10am United Kingdom , or 7pm Sydney, Australia * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcryeu/event/registration.html ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:219732 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss
Folks, FarCry 3.0 is almost upon us. Codenamed Glamour, this build has been all about usability. And not just about making tasks intuitive. We've spent a lot of life blood making it look schmick. Join us 29/30 Sept in a sneak-preview breezo to find out what the FarCry Community has been up to. USA FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 29 Sept 2005 * 3pm US Central or 6am Sydney, Australia (30 Sept) * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcryusa/event/registration.html AU/NZ FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 30 Sept 2005 * 3pm Sydney, Australia or 5pm New Zealand or 12 midnight US Central (29 Sept) * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcry/event/registration.html EUROPE FarCry 3.0: The Glamour Puss 30 Sept 2005 * 10am United Kingdom , or 7pm Sydney, Australia * http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/farcryeu/event/registration.html More information availabe on Daemonite: http://blog.daemon.com.au/archives/000324.html FarCry beta 3 released this morning at: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/downloads/farcry-beta-glamour Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:219036 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Call For Papers webDU2006 (formally MXDU)
--// Call For Papers webDU2006 (formally MXDU) //-- Website: http://www.mxdu.com/go/papers Conference Dates: 02-03 March 2006 Conference Venue: StarCity, Sydney Australia Submissions are due by: Monday, 24 October 2005 Fresh from the resounding success that was MXDU 2005, we are raring to go for webDU 2006. If you have something new and revolutionary, some tricks of the trade to share, want to help your fellow developers or you're just pure passionate for web technology, don't miss your chance to take part in webDU 2005. Besides there's nothing like talking CF in Sydney :) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217889 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: PHP equivalent of...
On 8/24/05, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking for the PHP equivalent of:
cfif FindNoCase('foo',CGI.USER_AGENT)
some text
/cfif
Don't think there is an answer to your specific question (looks like
others have already given you a decent one anyway) -- but you might
find this fledgling website of use:
http://cftophp.pbwiki.com/
-- geoff
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Re: farcry?
On 7/20/05, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm considering the farcry cms for a project but it appears that there are only 3 plugins for the software and the site seems decidedly barren. Specifically, I need a polling/survey tool to go along with it. Theres a helluva lot comes out of the box before you need to start looking specificaly for plugins. With regard to polling I integrated the Pollster app from the Macromedia DRK with little or no trouble, and as others have mentioned there are plenty of options for alternative integrations. A simple polling app wouldn't take more than a day or two to write -- if you nominate the feature at http://bugs.farcrycms.org:8080/ you never no your luck. Better yet, send an email out to farcry-dev and see if there isn't someone with a poll ready to ship. Mailing list and archive details here: http://www.farcrycms.org/go/support/community-support We're currently deep in the next release of FarCry (codenamed: Glamour) -- due for production release mid-August and currently in open beta. There's currently no demo for the beta but the early HTML wireframes give you an idea of the slick new look: http://skunkworks.farcrycms.com/pot/glamour/index.html Despite the site being a bit barren at the moment development is going ahead at a furious pace. Roadmap for development here: http://bugs.farcrycms.org:8080/ Daily code change reports: http://code.daemon.com.au/ Hope that gives folks a sense of what's going on in the FarCry Community -- a lot basically ;) -- geoff http://www.farcrycms.org/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212807 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: FarCry CMS install error...
Seth, I'd strongly recommend posting to the farcry-dev mailing list for help with installations of FarCry CMS. You can get on the list by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ On 7/2/05, Buntin, Seth - KATE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting this error on install: Data truncation: Data truncated; out of range for column 'userId' at row 1 Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Seth Buntin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:211059 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Farcry
On 6/17/05, Eric J. Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what happened to the FarCry CMS site...hadn't been there for awhile but have a CMS need now that doesn't support a CommonSpot budget. We had a hard drive crash (unrecoverable) and a less than satisfactory backup -- we're on the road to recovery and are taking the opportunity to refresh the content as we go. The mailing list is still as active as ever ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we've just released the latest 2.3.2 maintenance milestone and new install guide. FarCry 2.4 (codenamed Glamour) is due to go into public beta this week. You can see some of the HTML mockups to get a feel for the glamourous make-over here: http://skunkworks.farcrycms.com/pot/glamour/index.html -- geoff On the road via GMail. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210993 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:40:45 -0800, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say, totally off subject, that Mark Drew gave a breeze demo yesterday. It was the first time I've seen a live breeze demo - it was * amazing *. That is an awesome product. If there was like a white board part of it it would be the perfect app. Great response time, looked pretty - great job on that product :) There is a white board! And its pretty cool.. you can overlay the whiteboard over virtually any sort of content. -- geoff On the road via GMail. http://www.fullasagoog.com/ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:190355 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Farcry CMS: How well does farcry scale?
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:30:36 -0500, Katz, Dov B (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone done scalability/performance testing with farcry cms? Generally it depends on what application you are building as to how well it scales. FarCry is designed to be very extensible and customisable so a blanket statement on its scalability is not really possible. Well the question is a little like does coldfusion scale. It is fair to say that FarCry has several clever mechanisms in the framework for caching and has been deployed in a variety of sophisticated clustered architectures. There are many sites using FarCry that have been built for scalability and robustness. I'm considering implementing it for my site, but am concerned about performance on a highly hit sites... For raw stats you are best to post on the farcry-dev list to ask for real world examples. For our own part Daemon has implemented many highly scalable applications built in FarCry. For example, the Lonely Planet destinations guide (WorldGuide) has been recently rewritten in FarCry and will be required to endure very high, sustained web traffic -- this should be rolled into production in early 2005. Anyone who has done some testing and could provide some feedback, it would be greatly appreciated. Performance is a factor of how interactive and dynamic the content on your site will be -- if every page is different for every session then expect very high resource utilisation. If you can flatten the sites using caching then your bang for buck is obviously going to go a lot further. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ PS. FarCry developer mailing lists at http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/support/mailing-lists ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185107 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Spectra
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:24:49 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone writing 3rd Party plugins for Spectra, similar to the stuff that's available for PHP Nuke and dot net nuke? Well Spectra is definitely old school -- especially since you have the flourishing FarCry community as an alternative: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ With regard to 3rd party plugins, FarCry is designed for extensibility and customisation. Consequently we have a lot of 3rd party mods and extras floating around. We're trying to coordinate the community into producing an exchange of sorts as the community has become too large to orchestrate this through the developer lists. The exchange is a work in progress; ask the farcry-dev list for the sort of plugin you are after. Plenty of folks able to point you in the right direction. As an interesting side note, the FarCry 2.4 milestone release is anticipated to have a more clearly defined distribution model for 3rd party assets to help the community share code. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ On the road via GMail. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185108 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
MXDU 2005: Final Call For Papers 8-Oct-2004 (Friday)
Folks, Just a quick note to remind everyone that the MXDU 2005 call for papers closes 8-October-2004 (this coming Friday). Call For Papers: http://www.mxdu.com/go/papers Just about anything to do with MX application development and related topics will be considered.This includes talks on technologies and techniques that complement Macromedia technologies. We've had a tremendous response so far this year. But we're considering all proposals in our efforts to bring together the web-eclectic mix of technical know-how that is MXDU. # Conference Dates: 17-18 February 2005 # Conference Venue: StarCity, Sydney Australia All the best, -- geoff Conference Manager MXDU Conference Team Sydney, Australia http://www.mxdu.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: SOT - farcry CMS
- Original Message - From: Marco Antonio C. Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] sorry for SOT... Anybody know how to run multiple sites inside only one Farcry installation? Multiple sites for one farcry installation?This is the standard way FarCry works. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to jump on the FarCry developers mailing list -- plenty of help to get you going there. -- geoff On the road via GMail. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Farcry x SpeckCMS: The best CMS is....
- Original Message - From: Donna French [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:25:59 -0500 Haven't heard of Speck - tried to install Farcry on CrystalTech.com servers and gave up... If folks are trying to install FarCry and having trouble you really ought to join the FarCry developers mailing list: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/support/mailing-lists As for hosting FarCry in a shared environment -- there are known complications in shared hosting environments, plenty of help on the dev list to get you through and even several dedicated shared-FarCry hosting providers. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ On the road via GMail. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Farcry x SpeckCMS: The best CMS is....
- Original Message - From: Marco Antonio C. Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:13:43 -0300 Subject: Farcry x SpeckCMS: The best CMS is Do you have the answer? Two great CMS... Only one choice... Well I may be a little biased but I'm quite familiar with both. FarCry is a comprehensive solution covering a multitude of sins. Speck is very much smaller in scope and more toolbox than solution. Again, I'd recommend joining the farcry-dev mailing list -- plenty of folks happy to help you determine if FarCry fits your requirements. -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ On the road via GMail. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Homepage content management
- Original Message - From: Hugo Ahlenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:54:15 +0200 Does anyone know if FarCry runs on BD? FarCry CMS does *not* run on BD at the moment.However, there is an enthusiastic groupwho are keen to make that a reality.I think they're currently a bit side tracked so I'm not sure what the current status of the BD port is.Certainly you'd get a better response on farcry-dev (http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/support/mailing-lists). -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: JRun Servlet Error
I thought I might follow on from Spike's email on CFMX errors that drive you insane :)I was recently building a few components (in FarCry also funnily enough) when I came across this error that just wouldn't go away: Component names cannot start or end with dots. Turns out I had a rogue extends= in the CFCOMPONENT tag.I had text wrap off in the editor so I didn't see it till I started going through the code line by line. -- geoff http://blog.daemon.com.au/ On the road via GMail. - Original Message - From: Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:29:42 -0700 Subject: JRun Servlet Error To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I started digging around in the logs to see if there was anything. All I got was the following in the CFMX exception log: Error,jrpp-1,08/11/04,13:12:46,locher, The specific sequence of files included or processed is: C:\Farcry\HEAD\farcry_core\admin\index.cfm java.lang.StackOverflowError Eventually after running around for most of today trying to figure out what was going on I tracked it down to a cfproperty tag that was missing the end '' in one of my custom types. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Homepage content management
- Original Message - From: Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] FarCry? http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ It's a bitch to install though and out of the question if hosted on an ISP without access to mappings. It seems good but gave up on it due to installation complexity on a standalone box even. Pete, that's unfortunate.Generally I can install the product within 5minutes -- but admittedly I'm used to it :)You should try the farcry-dev list, plenty of folks on there with a myriad of install environments that can offer lots of help.Standalone box installation is generally very straight forward. Currently you can deploy to linux, windows and OSX; with support for MS SQL, Oracle, Postgresql and mySQL. With regard to ISP hosting -- it's true FarCry requires the assistance of the ISP.It requires the installation of a shared code library for all farcry apps within a CFMX instance, which sits under a single CF Mapping.The only real issue here is providing a service for multiple shared hosters who want to use FarCry (ie. its difficult to have multiple versions of the farcry shared library running under one instance). That said there are already several CF hosters who have taken on FarCry and provide it as a standard hosting option for their clients. Just post to the farcry-dev list asking for hosters ;) -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ On the road via GMail. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT: City Portal Software
Donna, You might try FarCry CMS: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ - Original Message - From: Donna French [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for the WOT post but I'm hoping someone out there knows of a ready-made solution to get a city web portal off the ground quickly. Would like something with classifieds, news, etc...any suggestions more than welcome. FarCry has most of these options out of the box, and is particularly easy to extend and customise.You can't beat the price; opensource! Try the farcry-dev mailing list for some candid opinions on whether FarCry is the right choice for your project: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/support/mailing-lists -- geoff On the road via GMail. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Manipulation Excel files
This is a great little post on leveraging java libraries for Excel. Dave Ross' blog has a bunch of others that might also shed some light. Generating Excel spreadsheets from CFMX http://www.medlogs.com/dave/001848.html Where would you be without these little gems appearing daily on Fullasagoog (http://www.fullasagoog.com/)? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ - Original Message - From: Mickael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:53:35 -0400 Subject: Manipulation Excel files To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction.I need to be able to extract certain information from cells an excel file, update some cell, delete some rows in the file then import the file to my database.Can anybody point me to a resource that explains how to do this or if someone has some experience with this it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Raymond's Blog for Bluedragon
Folks really ought to consider Spike's FriendlyURL servlet.We use it for FarCry CMS that leverages UUIDs.The results are fabulous. FriendlyURL: http://www.spike.org.uk/blog/index.cfm?section=fuservlet -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ Raymond Camden wrote: Heh, can't help it. It was my easy way of handling PKs for multiple DBs using the simplest set of code. :) For some reason the blog has gotten lot of coverage over the last week and I've gotten a lot of good feedback on it. I'm going to try to get together a new release in the next month. Specifically I want to add support for N blogs per DSN and N authors per blog. -Ray (still trying to recover from a week on the road) Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Monday 28 Jun 2004 15:24 pm, Rick Root wrote: entry=A896645C-136D-B771-EF3FC724A19B7071 I've said it before, I'll say it again: Is that a [G|U]UID ? Eww... :-) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: COLDFUSION has JUST been DISContinued!!!!
Dave Watts wrote: *yawn*here we go again -- dancing in semantics land with Matt. Note my use of quotes (I guess not) -- in any event... The problem with your dancing lesson is that Matt is absolutely correct in his insistence on semantic accuracy in this case, because it matters. You're stepping on his toes! A guy can't make a facetious comment on this list anymore without the semantic police getting their toes crushed :) Well if the semantics matter who owns the patent and/or trademark for Java, C#??Cos you see, if someone owns a patent/trademark on something then that patent/trademark is the very definition of proprietary in the dictionary.It has little if anything to do with standards; real, imagined or de-facto. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: COLDFUSION has JUST been DISContinued!!!!
Matt Liotta wrote: I suggest spending some time with Google before making absurd positions. For example, the patents necessary to implement the standards ECMA-334 (C#) and ECMA-335 (CLI) are available from Microsoft ...balh blah blah.. I think once again my point is one of semantics.. and the english language.My original remark was tongue-in-cheek, light hearted, etc. You chose to make a semantic issue out of it.I'm merely saying that the dictionary definition of proprietary is this: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=proprietary Clearly the developer community has a different spin on the definintion when attached to programming languages -- this is the beauty of the english language, it evolves. I don't disagree with you Matt -- you just annoy me.I just think you are absurdly pedantic -- almost as pedantic as myself ;) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: COLDFUSION has JUST been DISContinued!!!!
Of course you're right about C# Matt.. my mistake :) Matt Liotta wrote: Is C# of, related to, or suggestive of a proprietor or to proprietors as a group? I don't see how. Is C# exclusively owned? Certainly not. Is C# owned by a private individual or corporation under a trademark or patent? Again no. See what I don't think you seem to understand is that Microsoft doesn't own C#; no one does. Microsoft does own a specific implementation of C# known as Visual C#, which btw is trademarked. Is Java of, related to, or suggestive of a proprietor or to proprietors as a group? I don't see how not. Is Java exclusively owned? Certainly yes. Is Java owned by a private individual or corporation under a trademark or patent? Again yes. See what I don't think you seem to understand is that Sun owns Java; no one else. (it's like kids in the playground, no?) So just to be clear, C# is not proprietary; it is a ECMA standard. Microsoft Visual C# is proprietary and is an implementation of an ECMA standard. Do you really believe that C# would be anything without Microsoft??And would Microsoft's abandonment of C# in favour of a new language not see the decline of C# and the emergence of that new language?? (As we've seen with the emergence of C#) And if C# were abandoned on Windows by Microsoft, that would likely spell the immediate decline and eventual demise of the language on that platform.So the fact that the language is a standard and not owned by anyone in the sense of the law, it still is nevertheless owned by Microsoft in every other sense. Seems to me like Java /feels/ less proprietary than C#.But what would I know, eh. Again what I tried to say in a jovial response originally with regard to *ColdFusion* is that being proprietary has little bearing on the success or failure of a programming language.Certainly we've been given ample examples over the last decade. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: COLDFUSION has JUST been DISContinued!!!!
Wayne Burlingame wrote: Now that I have your attention... I am wondering about what will take place with all the current cf websites if this ever happened? Actually I want to learn coldfusion but have considered the fact of cf being proprietary and it diing out. Is there any news about the W3 ever making .cfm,etc... a standand? CF seems as though it is on the rise and also becoming really packed with features, better speed, etc... What about security issues CF has had in the past? Not that Microsoft, Linux,other scripting languages, etc.. has ever not had security issues also. Anyway sorry for the potential scare, but I am sure most have given thisthought before and have some input on the topic. No you're absolutely right.And considering that Java, C#, ASP.NET are ALL proprietary languages there is not much hope for anyone but PHP developers. Oh the humanity -- think of the children! Given these statistics I think I'll stay with CF for the time being: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/30/php_growing_surprisingly_strongly_on_windows.html -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: COLDFUSION has JUST been DISContinued!!!!
Matt Liotta wrote: No you're absolutely right.And considering that Java, C#, ASP.NET are ALL proprietary languages there is not much hope for anyone but PHP developers. The above statement is incorrect, C# is an ECMA standard and Java is a de facto standard through the JCP. *yawn*here we go again -- dancing in semantics land with Matt.Note my use of quotes (I guess not) -- in any event... If Sun abandoned Java or Microsoft abandoned c# what would happen to the language??There is no formal evolution of either language at this time except through the say-so of its corporate sponsor.The presence of a standard (even defacto ones ;) does not constitute an absence of proprietary'ness. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFMX Certification
Peter Tilbrook wrote: If you have Macromedia Central installed, Daemon Internet Consultants (http://www.daemon.com.au/) have an app called Certifiable. Certifiable includes exam practice for ColdFusion and Flash exams: http://certifiable.daemon.com.au/ Given licensing restrictions for Central, Certifiable is only available for now in the US and related territories -- more countries expected as soon as we can. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Is CFIMPORT only on MX Enterprise?
Mark Picker wrote: I have just installed a new learning platform onto one of our testing servers, running CFMX 6.1 Standard.Whenever I try to login to the platform I get the following message: A License Exception has been thrown You tried to access a restricted feature for the Standard edition: CFIMPORT CFIMPORT for *JSP* tags is only supported on Enterprise.Otherwise you should be able to quite merrily CFIMPORT CF tag libraries. Certainly we use CFIMPORT all over the place in FarCry and it works a treat. -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editors...
You might consider HTMLArea v3 -- which is currently at release candidate.It's open source, bsd-style license, and works on more browsers than just IE: http://dynarch.com/mishoo/htmlarea.epl We're looking at introducing it to FarCry CMS as another supported rich text editor.We may even promote it to being the default editor once it goes beyond release candidate. -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ Bailey, Neal wrote: Hello... all I am looking for a good open source WYSIWYG HTML form field editor control thingy. Something like SPAW or FCKeditor, I guess a better question is which one of these is better or more stable. I need to implement one pretty fast but don't have a lot of time to research them all, so I thought I would consult the great collective wisdom of this list to help me decide on the right one to use. Let me know what you think of if there are any better, newer or more stable ones outthere. Thanks. Neal Bailey Internet Marketing Manager [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFMX cfhttp bug?
Have you tried specifying a specific character set with the appropriate attribute in CFHTTP? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ Dick Applebaum wrote: I ran into an odd bug? when trying to upgrade CF 5 program to CFMX 6.1. The program populates a db from a text file using CFHTTP. I used the actual program and text file from CF 5. I couldn't find any discussion of this in LiveDocs. This cost me several hours of frustration, as the error message is not obviously (to me) referring to a data error. Is there a way around this -- I really want to use the bullet char in the text file)? (used the same technique on a bunch of older CF sites) TIA Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Farcry Content Management 6.1 Standard
David Brown wrote: We are looking to upgrade to CF MX (6.1) from CF 5.0 professional. We are also considering using FarCry CMS.Does anyone know if Farcry will work with CF MX 6.1 standard or do we need enterprise version? The team behind FarCry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au/) have worked very hard to ensure that the solutionruns on CFMX Standard. For the frugal, we also support the mySQL database platform for content storage, and there are a number of hosts offering very economical FarCry shared-hosting including: http://www.austiger.com.au/ http://www.fasthit.net/ Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flex is out
Dwayne Cole wrote: if MACR sells 1.000 or even 10.000 Flex license they will be distracted and lose the war (IMO) I agree Dick, In fact I felt this way when they deployed Contribute. RIA has promise but not if these guys lose focus by chasing consumer (including corporations) markets, and trying to be all things to all developers.Here we go again with another round of product releases that we feel completely left out of.MM is completely distracted, which considering understandable. They have alot of challenges - shareholders, banks, a vertical integration strategy, diversified product portfolio, intense competition - hell that's enough to keep even the best managed companies distrated. Bah.. phooey. Microsoft releases new version of SQL Server.Office users squeal that they have been abandoned and that Microsoft have lost their focus.Or was that... Microsoft releases ASP.NET and Exchange users squeal that they have been abandoned and that Microsoft have lost their focus... Or was that... Just because MM are increasing their portfolio of products does not constitute a lack of developer focus.Has the release cycle for Studio suddenly doubled or something?? So Flex is expensive.. its a product we all want to use today but probably won't be able to till tomorrow.We all fall somewhere within the developer spectrum but none of us are everywhere at once. If Flex is successful in the enterprise space as Contribute has been in the consumer space Macromedia would be on a winner, no? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Is Parallel Processing Possible With CF?
Nick Baker wrote: That is basically what we are currently doing, i.e., a serial approach. The system will work but when Internet traffic becomes sluggish we start experiencing too many pending events and this results in performance degradation. A parallel approach would reduce the seriousness of the problem. There is a multi-threaded CFHTTP replacement tag floating around on one of the DRK's.You could use that to have a single scheduled task simultaneously kick off several processes. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: SOT?: SES URLs in CF
Jeff, Jeff Langevin wrote: What things are folks doing out there to get around issues of search engine indexing of dynamic sites? Recently we launched an application which uses SES URLs (and the application is written in Fusebox 3).However, we are still having a problem with the search engines not indexing the site (you have to dig to find even one or two listings).Below is examples of URLs from the site.Has anyone had this kind of problem before?Does anyone know of any crawlers having problems with multiple .s in a URL? Well search engines might not but users certainly do!You should try FriendlyURLs from Spike Milligan: http://www.spike.org.uk/go/friendly-urls We've integrated the solution into FarCry CMS -- it's fabulous.Check out some of the links in the following websites: http://www.daemon.com.au/ http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ http://www.waynedavies.com/ -- geoff http://www.fullasagoog.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FARCRY
Doug, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone get this installed and working? Yes, hundreds of us.. so don't give up hope just yet :) We are running CFMX6.1(J2EE) with Oracle DB on IIS.The install goes fine but I never get passed this error. Could not find the included template /Application.cfm The error occurred in D:\Inetpub\farcrycms\farcry_core\admin\Application.cfm: line 9 7 : 8 : cfcatch 9 : cfinclude template=/Application.cfm 10 : /cfcatch 11 : /cftry I have /farcy and /farcry_test set in IIS as a virtual dir. /farcry_test points to D:\Inetpub\farcrycms\farcry_test\www and /farcry to D:\Inetpub\farcrycms\farcry_core\admin Should I also have a mapping in CFAlso, what the heck is this 'domain' setting for? It sounds as though you have a simple config error with apps.cfm. Without trying to solve your issue here on CFTALK perhaps you'd have a much better response trying to resolve it on the FarCry developers mailing list -- which is *very* responsive and full of people who actually have the product working. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] More info: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/support/mailing-lists -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FARCRY
Doug, Again -- better moved to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I'll try and help. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what a PITA so far! I installed the stuffs to d:\inetpub\farcrycms. I ran the install scripts sitename: farcry_test applicationmapping: /farcry_test admin mapping: /farcry domain:localhost--- what should this be??? this box has no DNS entry, only IP. This allows you to run FarCry admin shared across many projects without the need to replicate the code base.The installer script updates the apps.cfm.You can nominate the IP if you choose.You can update the apps.cfm directly to nominate the IP, 127.0.0.1, localhost and others if that is helpful -- but you can only access the admin through a URL that uses one of the nominated domains. Ok, I have two CF mappings /farcry -- d:\inetpub\farcrycms\farcry_core\admin /farcry_test -- d:\inetpub\farcrycms\farcry_test\www (these are the ONLY CF Mappings I have set) Well this is not quite right.Only the /farcry mapping is required and that is generated automatically by the installer if required -- it appears that you have changed this to point to the *wrong* location. /farcry -- d:\inetpub\farcrycms (for your install) Remove the other CFMAPPING. With this the installer appears to complete fully offering me the login and see site buttons. I ran the installer on the server itself. But when I click on the login button I get the login screen and can't get past it with the given default UID/PWD.If I click on the view site button, I get teh login screen and can't get past it.If I try to reach the site via a browser remotely, http://myip/farcry_test, i get Could not find the included template /Application.cfm error.So what part is wrong here?BTW, i have no mapping in CF for /. Basically nothing will work with the config settings you currently have in place :)The domain option in the installer updates a config file that specifies what domains should be able to access the admin.By setting this to localhost you have to access the admin with a URL containing localhost; a better option would simply be your IP address. For a better response -- you might try the farcry specific support options available: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/support/mailing-lists -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Frameworks
bret wrote: I've used Fusebox for years and have been very happy with it, but at the same time I want to give everything a fair chance as I help this organization make the decision. I've done some googling and come up with the following frameworks for ColdFusion, and am wondering if any of you have experience, opinions, or additions with/to these frameworks. - Fusebox - MachII - Blackbox (http://www.cfblackbox.com) - BatFink (http://www.mossyblog.com/downloads.cfm) - onTap (http://www.turnkey.to/ontap/) - SmartObjects I'd add FarCry CMS to that distinguished list although its best suited for applications that are content heavy as opposed to transactionally heavy (but it will do either). -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Why use Cold Fusion vs. other languages?
Dick Applebaum wrote: I have found it helpful to use a very simple example that anyone can understand: cfquery name=myQuery.../cfquery cfoutput query=myquery.../cfoutput Query a database and display the results with 2 CF commands-- no connections, no nuthin' -- just 2 CF commands. (I usually code the entire logic for creating a Department Phone List, ad hoc.Then I run it, and show the results on a web page (using a Laptop containing CF and the Examples Employee database) Don't forget to add dynamic query caching with cachedwithin=#createtimespan(0,0,0,30)# or whatever.No other language in the web space offers a similar solution with a single attribute. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: content management system db schema
Daniel Farmer wrote: Does anyone have a database schema that they could share with me for a content management system for a small to medium size website? I just need direction on how to go about setting up the tables etc... for links, content...etc It'll be a fair bit of work to take a generic schema and write the administration interface for a CMS.Definitely worth having a look at the FarCry opensource community for an almost instant solution.If there is too much functionality in there, you can always turn off unwanted features in the configuration. -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Macromedia.com running on top of Mach II
Philip Arnold wrote: The size of MM with their resources should have allowed them to build something from scratch which did the job perfectly, had no superfluous code and was optimized to the hilt would have made a better impression of the product as your pages would be the best they possibly could, rather than using MachII's coding/template structure I suspect that MM's web team is as time-poor as the rest of the web teams out there.Working at Macromedia doesn't remove the pressure of a deadline or solve resourcing shortages.They're using Mach-II for some smaller apps they need to build beyond the Dylan65 architecture. That's my opinion anyways, and it probably means nothing to MM itself as Sean and his team have already built the site using MachII, so it's a moot point. No.The point is not moot. Macromedia.com is *not* built in Mach-II.The Dylan65 project was released well in advance of Mach-II emerging as a framework.Mach-II is being used for some specific point-applications on the website. How do I know all this?I actually bother to read Sean's blog: http://www.corfield.org/blog/past/2003_11.html#000203 -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Macromedia.com is *not* built on Mach-II
Macromedia.com is *not* built on Mach II.It is built with a custom framework called Dylan65.Mach-II is being used for some very specific applications.Please bother to read Sean Corfields blog.For example: http://www.corfield.org/blog/past/2003_11.html#000203 Dylan65 was released to production in Feb 2003.How long do people think MM has been running on CFMX??? Is using Mach-II for production at MM an endorsement of the technology? Of course -- officially or unofficially, who cares?It appears to work there, and appears to work well for what they want.Mach-II follows a standard design pattern -- if they wanted that design pattern should they build it again or contribute to an existing community group that has already got much of the way??Would any other commercial team of developers have done differently?? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FarCry website up once more
Apologies for any inconvenience.A series of events have conspired against us the last two days.Access to the site should be all go once more. Re: installation -- if you are new to FarCry you need to: a) join the farcry-dev mailing list b) download the FULL install for your relevant operating system Cheers, -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ Sparrow-Hood, Walter wrote: Is anybody using FarCry? What has been your experience? We're thinking about using it to manage about 12+ global sites. Walt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Far Cry
Peter Tilbrook wrote: Yes but HTH do I get it running on Apache 2.0.x? Pete, there are technotes specifically on running with Apache.Plenty of people with fully operational sites running Apache.Best place to raise any installation issues is the farcry-dev mailing list. -- geoff http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
