[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Barry, My first reaction, what date is it again oh wow its past April 1st:-) My second reaction, after I picked myself of the floor, that is a very bold and very strategic move by Adobe on this. My thoughts are that it would be to compete with Blend / WPF / silverlight or whatever they damn

[cfaussie] Re: Commercial data list of aus suburbs postcodes etc

2007-04-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yep we are using the one from aussie post cost 1600 bucks by memory gives you a number of different styles of sql.. our table structure is recordid authorityid stateid name featurecode status postcode conciseGazettr Longitude Latitude map100k but yep beware there there are certain suburbs

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Angus Johnson
Ok here's my take... It's really not unexpected. The SDK source was provided from day one, this at least makes it official. No more concerns about IP when building custom components. From a Coldfusion perspective? Learn Flex / Actionscript as of yesterday. There's going to be an explosion in

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Muller
Angus You're quite correct about a relationship between Flex and ColdFusion sales. I interviewed Tim Buntel at MAX last year for BuilderAU and he told me then that CF sales had been helped by Flex. Scorpio will offer even better Flex support so if you're building frontends in Flex and you want

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Angus Johnson
You're right Andrew. Not all the source was available, rpc for one. Also you can't currently recompile the framework if you want to strip out debug for instance. so i guess we'll be able to do that soon. On 26/04/07, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angus You're quite correct about a

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread AJ Mercer
If you SWITCH between the trunk and branches with out doing a commit, wont you loose your changes? On 4/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, At least with my expereince and knowledge I earn more than $21 an hour. I also did say it will open a debate... The reason being is

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
I can see a lot of positives about Adobe's move in this regard, suffice to say some interesting thoughts popped into my head for CFMX'ers especially well anyone for that matter. Here's the thing I did wonder though today, what if Bluedragon + WebORB + CFEclipse folks go together and formed an OS

[cfaussie] Re: Request VS Application Scope

2007-04-26 Thread elAdi
I do agree with you Andrew. I just posted the link as an illustration. I stumbled across it when looking for other authentication methods than the one I used so far. You know: never stop learning. But after playing around with it for a while, I too found that there is too much 'duplication' (as

[cfaussie] Re: Java inner classes

2007-04-26 Thread MrBuzzy
Howdy, There's an old article here on inner classes; http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19580 Also I have seen syntax something like this, but I haven't ever tried it; cfobject type=JAVA action=Create name=xxx class=OuterThing$InnerThing Also, if you're

[cfaussie] Re: Java inner classes

2007-04-26 Thread Grant Straker
yeah, sorry Adam my example earlier should have been a $ not : between the classes. On Apr 26, 8:15 pm, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, There's an old article here on inner classes;http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19580 Also I have seen syntax

[cfaussie] Re: Java inner classes

2007-04-26 Thread Adam Cameron
Cheers all. Just some notes: 1) Andrew, I think you have misread what I asked. Yes, I pointed you @ some constructors. What you were supposed to be noting was that those constructors require arguments of type Field.Index, Field.Store, Field.TermVector, which are inner classes. Make sense now?

[cfaussie] Re: Java inner classes

2007-04-26 Thread Adam Cameron
[sorry didn't see your follow-up Grant, was busy writing mine] Cheers. -- Adam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
yes that is correct. On 4/26/07, AJ Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you SWITCH between the trunk and branches with out doing a commit, wont you loose your changes? On 4/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, At least with my expereince and knowledge I earn more

[cfaussie] Re: Java inner classes

2007-04-26 Thread Adam Cameron
Way hey! Sorted it. Once I RTFM'ed, I saw where I was going wrong: cfset oDoc.add(oField.init(id, 1, oStoreNo, oIndexNo)) And from the Java docs for field: blockquote Throws: IllegalArgumentException - in any of the following situations: * the field is neither stored nor indexed

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Scott, I think we need to wait and see how they plan this, my thoughts are more on a tight repository because of the more upto date builds. Could be wrong, but if anyone wanted to branch out then they would be hitting a merge nightmare. But guess we need to wait and see... On 4/26/07, Scott

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Angus Johnson
The podcasts contain some pretty interesting info. Namely Adobe and trusted committers will be responsible for the main source. I suppose this will be for the core branch... with forks for more focused audiences. The expanded client market will drive more server sales. Red5 and co will benefit.

[cfaussie] Re: Request VS Application Scope

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
But it was very well documented for a tutorial, can't take that away from it:-) On 4/26/07, elAdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do agree with you Andrew. I just posted the link as an illustration. I stumbled across it when looking for other authentication methods than the one I used so far.

[cfaussie] Re: URLs without ? - Search engine friendly URLs

2007-04-26 Thread Blair McKenzie
Have a look at url rewrites. ISAPI rewrite for IIS, Apache has it built in. This functionality allows you to use regular expressions to alias 'pretty' urls to url that contains a query string. Blair On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was reading something about

[cfaussie] Re: Request VS Application Scope

2007-04-26 Thread KC Kuok
Hi Andrew, Could you point you which part of the code hits the DB everytime? I currently have my login 'scripts' (more of files stored in its old folders) called via template when needed at work. I thought this is a pretty efficient and simple way of authentication, just wondering where this

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
On 4/26/07, Angus Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The podcasts contain some pretty interesting info. Namely Adobe and trusted committers will be responsible for the main source. I suppose this will be for the core branch... with forks for more focused audiences. Cool, not sure how this

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
Exhibit A - http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1020 For some people, (open source) is a philosophical requirement, a sign of integrity and trust in a vendor. This will close that gap and address any lingering doubts they have about our openness and commitment to community. You have to

[cfaussie] Flash File Uploads

2007-04-26 Thread Steve Onnis
Hey guys Has anyone managed to get Flash file uploads to work with an ASP file upload process? http://www.inevative.com.au/images/email-stationary/inevativeLogo_small.jpg Steve Onnis Director / Head Developer http://www.inevative.com.au/images/email-stationary/email.jpg [EMAIL

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Mike Chambers
This has nothing to do with Silverlight. I am not sure about your experience working in large companies, but a decision of this scale takes quite some time to finalize, and get approval for. We have been working on this internally for over a year, and it is really the natural evolution for

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
On 4/27/07, Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has nothing to do with Silverlight. I am not sure about your experience working in large companies, but a decision of this scale takes quite some time to finalize, and get approval for. Yup, but the announcement itself is appearing to

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
You're so easy Scott:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 8:31 AM

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
Yup ;) I can't suffer sillyness... On 4/27/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're so easy Scott:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From:

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Pat
I have another take on this subversion issue... 1. we use a shared development server instead of each developer having their own working copy. why ? a. designers project managers have no idea about subversion. they want to see what the current state of development is by looking at the dev

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Hmmm, silliness is M$ thinking they can rip people off:-) Sorry Scott you left yourself open on that one *lol* Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Pat, That is very bad and here is why!! First of all, it isn't very hard to setup up a staging server, and when that is done and your happy that the build is stable you can export to the staging server. But the biggest headache for this model is down time, every time I have come across this

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Haikal Saadh
Good god. You've brought back nightmares of what our setup was like 2 or 3 years ago. Someone would run a big query, bring the server down, and it was time for a coffee break while the server rebooted. Or worse. Someone would get confused and overwrite someone else's changes, and shouting

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
Yeah well i went past Bills house yesterday, so I'm also thinking... I could do a with more money :) On 4/27/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, silliness is M$ thinking they can rip people off:-) Sorry Scott you left yourself open on that one *lol* Andrew Scott Senior

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Pat
in our experience of using shared development the downtime is minimal. and who do you have to explain it to ? downtime on testing and production servers is another issue, but while your in development if someone changes something that breaks what your working on, they will know about it very

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Pat, The downtime is when you try to fix a bug in your code, that was introduced by another developer piss farting around in the same code. Trust me, I do not care what you think this is the worst way of developing in a team environment than you can imagine. Ok, let's say a developer needs to

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Pat Branley
not preaching, just offering an alternative. You might not like it, but it works for us. and you would have to admit that it is better than NO version control. On Apr 27, 10:57 am, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, The downtime is when you try to fix a bug in your code, that was

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Barry Beattie
this thread didn't really go where I hoped... Angus Johnson and Andrew Muller got closest (thanx guys) (and it looks like it's degraded into the typical off-topic slanging match that [many people] are well and truly over) so before it collapses into a steaming pile of poo... Getting back to

[cfaussie] FLEX 2 - text item not being recognised

2007-04-26 Thread Allan Browning
I have a Panel control with multiple text and label controls within. I am able to assign values to the text property of these controls in via a function in an external actionscript file. I have now added a new text control to the panel and I am unable to assign a value to its text property. In

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Barry, Ajax will not die, it is thriving. The reason being is that for a quick Web2.0 solution it is the most easiest to get up and running very quickly. I have just finished an intranet system using dojo, and it was completed in half the time it would have if I had been using flex. The reason

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Haikal Saadh
Pundits Preaching the Passing of HTML have been Persistently Proven Pungent. No one size fits all solution for anything, IMO. Vanilla HTML does somethings very well, and adding fluff, in the form of AJAX/flash wizardry on serves to get in my way. That said, there are things where a liberal

[cfaussie] Subversion - ignore Application.cfm

2007-04-26 Thread AJ Mercer
Can some one please explain how I go about setting up Subversion to ignore Application.cfm? Thank you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to

[cfaussie] Re: Subversion - ignore Application.cfm

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Are you using eclipse, or Tortoise? Eclipse, RMB on the file select team and there you will see add:ignore. Tortoise is something simialt but I don't use it as the current version crashes Vista far to much. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread KC Kuok
I agree with you Barry. As with the community aspect, I expect there will be Adobe staff assigned to help manage and push the project along, but there will need to be people who are not employed by Adobe to get fully involved. (and they have to be capable and impartial) Adobe will look after

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Barry Beattie
the trouble about making general statements is people arguing the point with edge-cases. yes, there will always be simple sites that use server-generated HTML and there will always be controlled conditions (intranets) that will allow for specialised solutions. and I'm not talking about

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Yeah, Mike has posted here a few times over the years just very rare. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[cfaussie] Re: Subversion - ignore Application.cfm

2007-04-26 Thread AJ Mercer
I am using Eclipse (Aptana) and the Add to SVN:Ignore is disabled I don't see anything similar in tortoiseVN On 4/27/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using eclipse, or Tortoise? Eclipse, RMB on the file select team and there you will see add:ignore. Tortoise is

[cfaussie] Re: Subversion - ignore Application.cfm

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
If you are using Eclipse, and CFEclipse then I suggest getting subversive. You will love that plugin, trust me. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

[cfaussie] Re: Subversion - ignore Application.cfm

2007-04-26 Thread AJ Mercer
is it better than subClipse? On 4/27/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using Eclipse, and CFEclipse then I suggest getting subversive. You will love that plugin, trust me. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
On 4/27/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this thread didn't really go where I hoped... Angus Johnson and Andrew Muller got closest (thanx guys) My bad :) (and it looks like it's degraded into the typical off-topic slanging match that [many people] are well and truly over) He

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Mike Chambers
Yeah. I have been on for some time, mostly to keep up with any discussions about Flex and Apollo. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Scott wrote: Yeah, Mike has posted here a few times over the years just very rare. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

[cfaussie] Re: FLEX 2 - text item not being recognised

2007-04-26 Thread Allan Browning
Problem Solved. Error just before keyboard. Cheers On Apr 27, 11:46 am, Allan Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Panel control with multiple text and label controls within. I am able to assign values to the text property of these controls in via a function in an external

[cfaussie] SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread cfgroupie
I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. I started a project about 2 months ago which was only going to take a few weeks. Without going into

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
Did a blog post, http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog/archive/2007/04/27/flex-open-source-what-s-changed.aspx There will be complaints hehe. On 4/27/07, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shouldn't assume that open source = open contributions. Open source means only one thing - the

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Mike Chambers
fyi We will be allowing contributions. This is mentioned in the FAQ: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:Open_Source:FAQ#Will_Adobe_be_allowing_external_developers_as_committers_to_the_project.3F mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blair McKenzie wrote: You shouldn't assume that open

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Blair McKenzie
Interesting. Blair On 4/27/07, Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fyi We will be allowing contributions. This is mentioned in the FAQ: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:Open_Source:FAQ#Will_Adobe_be_allowing_external_developers_as_committers_to_the_project.3F mike chambers

[cfaussie] OT: oracle 8i

2007-04-26 Thread grant
anyone know where i can get a working copy of oracle 8i? if someone has original install cds i have no problem paying and get them couriered. i've got this nightmare project where i'm migrating a sql server 2000 db to ora8i, and my dev environment is ora10g. nuts. oh and i don't have direct

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread grant
i agree, learning actionscript was like that. adobe/mm just don't do good developer cultivation. On 27/04/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's interesting.

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
I got some Flex 3 books i can hand out btw? On 4/27/07, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree, learning actionscript was like that. adobe/mm just don't do good developer cultivation. On 27/04/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked into worked today with everyone around me

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread Angus Johnson
Hi Jeremy I'd agree that there is quite a learning curve for Flex. The framework is very comprehensive, lots of classes and it's easy to get lost. It's also object oriented and there are some concepts such as event handling that can do your head in at times. It's also significantly different to

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread Lucas
cool - send one our way, I am sure that you don't need em anymore... Oh, I have an old Javascript book here that we don't use anymore, wanna swap? On 4/27/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got some Flex 3 books i can hand out btw? On 4/27/07, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
So let me get this straight. You set an expectation of how long it would take to complete a project in software you are not familiar with and now your disappointed because your expectation was not met. Please, spare me... On 27/04/2007, at 2:05 PM, Lucas wrote: cool - send one our way,

[cfaussie] Re: Subversion - ignore Application.cfm

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Yes. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AJ Mercer Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 12:34 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject:

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
Bah :) no such thing is a perfectly executed project in software, we are all humans. Flex is RAD initially but it hurts after you want to get deeper into mucking about with the code base. I blame mix-ins to be honest (decorater pattern) as it's quite confusing for the untrained folks. Secondly,

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
It's easier to learn coming from a Java or Flash background. If your lucky enough for a company to pay you for 6 months while you learn any software, all the best. But to set commercial deadlines on such a proposal, madness.. On 27/04/2007, at 2:18 PM, Scott Barnes wrote: Bah :) no such

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Scott, I knew it would not be long for you to voice your opinion on your blog. But let's take a step back for a minute, Adobe have done a great job with Flex as Macromedia before them. But one thing that seems to be missing and Scott you touched on it, but I do not think that you fully looked

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Hey Scotty, When will microsoft be open sourcing wpf :) On 27/04/2007, at 2:32 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: Scott, I knew it would not be long for you to voice your opinion on your blog. But let's take a step back for a minute, Adobe have done a great job with Flex as Macromedia

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread cfgroupie
Hi Angus, What sort of application was it? A very basic calculation application. i.e. I fill out textbox one, textbox two and textbox three shows the calculated result, then insert into the database. I know about all the lists, I used them as well. What I found their is that most of the people

[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down

2007-04-26 Thread cfgroupie
Word! Jeremy On Apr 27, 2:18 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bah :) no such thing is a perfectly executed project in software, we are all humans. Flex is RAD initially but it hurts after you want to get deeper into mucking about with the code base. I blame mix-ins to be honest

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
http://www.codeplex.com/Project/ProjectDirectory.aspx?TagName=WPF We do enough in the OS space we don't always chase headlines for it ;) On 4/27/07, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Scotty, When will microsoft be open sourcing wpf :) On 27/04/2007, at 2:32 PM, Andrew

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Actually that's not true, WP/F was announced to chase headlines as you put it at the beginning of last year. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
I could get into this with you Andrew, and spank you on how thinly you actually do your research around this but to be honest, you hate Microsoft for all the wrong reasons and just like the Vista pricing battle of 2007, you keep shifting the agenda/topic once a point gets made and debunked. Then

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Scott Barnes
ps http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/25/adobe-open-sources-flex/ Adobe is moving pretty quickly. When I met with David a week and a half ago, I got the impression that he and Ely had decided that they wanted to open source Flex, but hadn't cleared it with his management chain. A week and a

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Scott, Who cares, really... Of course they are going to be coy about such things, I mean what is the point of announcing something that might be slammed on the head by the company. That would be like m$ saying we are planning to Open Source windows, and then Bill Gates says No Way. Who is going

[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
What ever tickles your fancy Scott, but at the end of the day who cares. I don't hate M$, I hate any business/company that think they can exploit a consumer. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273

[cfaussie] Re: Western Sydney User Group - anyone interested?

2007-04-26 Thread Rod Higgins
Yup we are interested. Count us in (x3 developers), that makes 4. I was interested last time this was raised about 3 years ago and can provide the venue if required. The conference room can hold about 20 ppl comfortably, wireless internet available. If enough interest is around we might spring

[cfaussie] Re: Scott and Andrew have driven me away

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Well technically then Barry should have posted that thread in the watercooler then.. Don't pin Scott and I for something that is technically off topic, and has no relevance to solving CF related stuff Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. http://www.aegeon.com.au

[cfaussie] Re: Scott and Andrew have driven me away

2007-04-26 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
The man quotes Bambi, Let him cry... On 27/04/2007, at 3:46 PM, Tom MacKean wrote: OK. Had enough. I'm unsubscribing from cfaussie as of now. Let me make this perfectly clear. I am dropping off this list for one reason only, and that is that every time someone comes up with a sensible