[Cin] AOM SVT-AV1 2.1 Released

2024-05-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
According to Phoronix the Alliance of Open Media project quietly released (the Intel based) SVT-AV1 v2.1 last week. With this new SVT-AV1 release are yet more performance optimizations and tuning. The M0, M3, M5, and M6 presets are seeing 12~40% speed-ups while maintaining similar quality

Re: [Cin] ffmpeg 7.0 soon to be released

2024-05-24 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
I did install the version 20240521 the day before on Leap, which possibly is not the very latest version. Terje tor. 23. mai 2024, 22:14 skrev Phyllis Smith via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>: > Reminder for those with recent versions of the Operating Systems, you can > install the packages

Re: [Cin] OT: video about old usb 1.1 capture device

2024-05-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.05.2024 17:03, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: Under old windows, too .. but as top comment says, quality is quite surprizing, considering all limitations. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4U32Hl4uSBs "USB video capture in 2002: Dazzle DCS 200" mpeg2 SD video (NTSC/PAL), at around 6

[Cin] FFmpeg 7.0 Merges DVD-Video Demuxer

2024-04-07 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
There has earlier been some descriptions on how to rip a DVD video with ffmpeg like this one https://www.miskatonic.org/2020/05/12/dvd-ffmpeg/ I am curious  and excited to see if and what the publicized FFmpeg 7.0's DVD-video demuxer offers extra, hopefully also to preserve DVD-video

Re: [Cin] ffmpeg 7.0 soon to be released

2024-03-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Good to see DVD is not quite dead yet. I have worked a lot the last months with ffmpeg 6.1 to make various DVD and Blu-ray discs. Terje tor. 28. mars 2024, 05:17 skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>: > It already branched > > changelog says: > > version 7.0: > - DXV

Re: [Cin] removing letter boxing while preserving aspect

2024-03-03 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 03.03.2024 14:40, skrev Rob Prowel via Cin: I have 3:2 content that is saved in a 4:3 frame with black bands at the top and bottom. I want to remove the banding such that the output is a 3:2 resolution clip WITHOUT DISTORTING THE ORIGINAL CONTENT. I've tried playing with the crop

Re: [Cin] Possibly better conversion quality at 2x speed/ bitrate and 25fps/ 50 fps

2024-02-19 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 19.02.2024 19:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 19 февр. 2024 г., 20:59 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Thirty years ago I tape recordered some hundreds of old genealogy photos, which I now plan to convert from SD-DV files to burn on DVD video discs. The camcordings were

[Cin] Possibly better conversion quality at 2x speed/ bitrate and 25fps/ 50 fps

2024-02-19 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Thirty years ago I tape recordered some hundreds of old genealogy photos, which I now plan to convert from SD-DV files to burn on DVD video discs. The camcordings were made with fade in/out, zoom closeups and pan effects,  which fit well at 2x playback speed and with additional pause/play

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-15 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : There are two things I want to add to my current intermediate DVD mpg video files created with ffmpeg, and/or to the DVD tree structure created with DeVeDeNG: 1

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-13 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 12 февр. 2024 г., 02:02 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 11.02.2024 04:36, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 11.02.2024 00:57, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 10 февр. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-13 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
февр. 2024 г., 02:02 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 11.02.2024 04:36, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 11.02.2024 00:57, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 10 февр. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : There are two things I want

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-13 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
: Den 11.02.2024 04:36, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 11.02.2024 00:57, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 10 февр. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : There are two things I want to add to my current intermediate

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-12 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 12.02.2024 00:07, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 12 февр. 2024 г., 02:02 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 11.02.2024 04:36, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 11.02.2024 00:57, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 10 февр. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-12 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 11.02.2024 14:54, skrev Андрей Спицын via Cin: >Create and add Soft Subtitles as simple text info commentaries to the video content This is the topic for this post. Hello, Terje. You can try to use ML and machine learning approach to do this. Use whisper.cpp

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-11 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 11.02.2024 04:36, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 11.02.2024 00:57, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 10 февр. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : There are two things I want to add to my current intermediate DVD mpg video files created with ffmpeg, and/or to the DVD tree

Re: [Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-10 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 11.02.2024 00:57, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 10 февр. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : There are two things I want to add to my current intermediate DVD mpg video files created with ffmpeg, and/or to the DVD tree structure created with DeVeDeNG: 1

[Cin] Adding soft subtitles to a DVD video

2024-02-10 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
There are two things I want to add to my current intermediate DVD mpg video files created with ffmpeg, and/or to the DVD tree structure created with DeVeDeNG: 1. Create and add a Navigation menu in the beginning This will be an upcoming, separate topic 2. Create and add Soft

Re: [Cin] qctools, sonic lineup

2024-02-02 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 22.01.2024 17:00, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 22 янв. 2024 г., 18:39 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 22.01.2024 15:05, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 22 янв. 2024 г., 16:18 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 20.01.2024 23:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: I am

Re: [Cin] OT HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-02-01 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 01.02.2024 15:58, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 2:47 PM Terje J. Hanssen via Cin wrote: I start a new thread on this topic because the previous one became long. This time as a procedure to convert HDV video and copy MP2 audio to a DVD-Video compliant MPG file

[Cin] OT HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-02-01 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
I start a new thread on this topic because the previous one became long. This time as a procedure to convert HDV video and copy MP2 audio to a DVD-Video compliant MPG file, by applying optional free tools = HDV to DVD 16x9 video using

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-31 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 31.01.2024 00:04, skrev Phyllis Smith: OK, more testing.  You can change it to just "pcm" and that will create the iso.  "lpcm" does not work and I have not determined what the "l" stands for.  I will experiment using just "pcm" and fix the Manual document. Can it be as stupid like

Re: [Cin] Audio out of sync when rendering MP4s

2024-01-31 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 31.01.2024 11:27, skrev Matteo Bini via Cin: Hello Cinelerra GG developers, I've found a strange behaviour in this great editing software. When I render my project, sometimes the audio is out of sync. Not all the audio, but from a certain point, from half of the video the audio is out of

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-30 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 21:58, skrev Phyllis Smith: For inclusion in the Manual based on Andrew's work is the text below.  Let me know if it needs changes. .. 8) Change directory to the location as shown on the terminal window of dvd.sh. 9) Using an editor, modify the line in dvd.sh to

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-30 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 30.01.2024 15:16, skrev Andrea paz via Cin: Another attempt for the document on DV and HDV to be put either as an appendix to the manual or (better yet) in a separate pdf on git. I am still not satisfied with the result, so a revision is welcome. IMO this looks good "^" A minor

Re: [Cin] HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-01-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 29.01.2024 18:30, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 29.01.2024 17:05, skrev Phyllis Smith: More feedback below. I think the procedure here is somewhat tricky and a bit confusing. Therefor I suggest some clarifications in the GUI and a manual example. Good suggestions.  I am going to create a

Re: [Cin] HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-01-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 29.01.2024 17:05, skrev Phyllis Smith: More feedback below. I think the procedure here is somewhat tricky and a bit confusing. Therefor I suggest some clarifications in the GUI and a manual example. Good suggestions.  I am going to create a subdirectory on the website to include

Re: [Cin] HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-01-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 29.01.2024 16:54, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 29.01.2024 15:59, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 29.01.2024 14:55, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 29.01.2024 02:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: пн, 29 янв. 2024 г., 04:21 Phyllis Smith : Tested as Andrew stated on DVD

Re: [Cin] HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-01-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 29.01.2024 15:59, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 29.01.2024 14:55, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 29.01.2024 02:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: пн, 29 янв. 2024 г., 04:21 Phyllis Smith : Tested as Andrew stated on DVD connected to TV and it works but does not distinguish

Re: [Cin] HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-01-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 29.01.2024 14:55, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 29.01.2024 02:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: пн, 29 янв. 2024 г., 04:21 Phyllis Smith : Tested as Andrew stated on DVD connected to TV and it works but does not distinguish between MPEG-2 and MPEG-3 -- it just reports

Re: [Cin] HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-01-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 29.01.2024 02:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: пн, 29 янв. 2024 г., 04:21 Phyllis Smith : Tested as Andrew stated on DVD connected to TV and it works but does not distinguish between MPEG-2 and MPEG-3 -- it just reports as MPEG.  And mp3 works too on DVD. FYI --

Re: [Cin] HDV is really 4 channel?

2024-01-29 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 17.01.2024 00:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 02:07 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 16.01.2024 23:32, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 01:14 Andrew Randrianasulu : ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 01:04 Andrew Randrianasulu :

[Cin] HDV 1080i to DVD 16x9 with MP2 audio

2024-01-28 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
As I could not recall it : Loaded a HDV 1440x108i with native MP2 stereo audio, and then Create DVD 16x9 rendering does transcode the audio to AC3 by default. Video is displayed with correct aspect ratio using VLC and . Input #0, mpeg, from 'dvd.mpg':   Duration: 00:06:58.08, start: 0.16,

Re: [Cin] From DV to MPG to DVD Video + PCM Audio

2024-01-26 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
*3. Burned the DVD iso with Xorriso and real tested DVD discs in standalone players *Re-encoded and muxed first first a full scale DVD video base file, DV01-1992.mpg 3.9 GB (53 min playtime) with FFmpeg as step 1 above. During this proces the previous "buffer underflow" messages scrolled over

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-24 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 24.01.2024 20:11, skrev Andrea paz: You could possibly try to do a corresponding down-conversion from 1920x1080 using normal Rendering and Set format Preset 1440x1080. This to see if this Format preset works better or not? Do you mean because it is vertically narrowed (and DAR 4:3)? I

[Cin] From DV to MPG to DVD Video + PCM Audio

2024-01-24 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
I want to showcase this procedure using alternative tools, and in case this sooner or later can be of some use for Creating DVD with CinGG.. *1. From DV Video w/native LPCM to DVD-compliant MPG using  FFMpeg (version 4.4.4 on Leap 15.5) 2. From MPG w/o re-encoding to DVD structure and

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-24 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 24.01.2024 09:35, skrev Andrea paz: I meant the 1440x1080 hdv file which (the first) bd.m2ts was originated from. Ah, sorry. The 3 videos I had started from to make the BD Render were not 1440x1080, this size was just set in the BD Render window. The three project's files were:

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 22:22, skrev Andrea paz: Source_1 (and 4) I made them with "BD Render" according to Phyllis' instructions in a previous post. Here is the result from ffprobe: $ ffprobe -hide_banner bd.m2ts Input #0, mpegts, from 'bd.m2ts': Duration: 00:01:06.91, start: 0.074667, bitrate:

Re: [Cin] BD creation aspect 16:9 fixes?

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 08:04, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: I tried to edit in place ff_options before batchrender job was created. It seems to work but need real (on real hardware player + TV) testing ... Just tested BD Render with Einhander's latest CinGG built: Jan 19 2024 22:51:47 The first

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 22:01, skrev Phyllis Smith: Source_3: 5sec_hdv01_04.m2t.ts; 1440x1080; SAR 4:3; DAR 16:9 Compositor: Correct display; rectangular px. Just curious here: Why and where did you get the extra file extension .ts? Sony's extension for hdv has been .m2t,

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 21:13, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 23.01.2024 18:35, skrev Andrea paz via Cin: I did the following test: NOTE: I use SAR as pixel aspect ratio i.e. SAR= Sample aspect ratio. I use PAR as frame aspect ratio i.e. PAR= Picture aspect ratio. I use PAR=W/H. I took the following

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 18:35, skrev Andrea paz via Cin: I did the following test: NOTE: I use SAR as pixel aspect ratio i.e. SAR= Sample aspect ratio. I use PAR as frame aspect ratio i.e. PAR= Picture aspect ratio. I use PAR=W/H. I took the following 4 videos: Source_1: bd.m2ts; 1440x1080; SAR 1:1;

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-22 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 22.01.2024 13:30, skrev Igor BEGHETTO via Cin: @Andrew_Randrianasulu wrote: May be result depend on (software) player? Terje used VLC, I used mplayer/mpv My Media players on UbuntuStudio_16.04-LTS-64bit are: - Parole Media Players v0.8.1 - VLC Media Player v2.2.2 - ffplay

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-22 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 22.01.2024 18:00, skrev Andrea paz via Cin: @Terjie Do you think it is better to adopt SampleAR which is congruent with Info --> Detail. Or is it better to PixelAR which is the one used by wikipedia and every other guide I found? Well, I would go for FFmpegs SAR. That is the simple and

Re: [Cin] qctools, sonic lineup

2024-01-22 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 22.01.2024 17:00, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 22 янв. 2024 г., 18:39 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 22.01.2024 15:05, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 22 янв. 2024 г., 16:18 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 20.01.2024 23:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: Sorry Terje

Re: [Cin] qctools, sonic lineup

2024-01-22 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 22.01.2024 15:05, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: пн, 22 янв. 2024 г., 16:18 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 20.01.2024 23:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: Sorry Terje if I was too rough in my previous email. Oh, I am fine with that. I understand also some user-repeating

Re: [Cin] qctools, sonic lineup

2024-01-22 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 20.01.2024 23:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: Sorry Terje if I was too rough in my previous email. Oh, I am fine with that. I understand also some user-repeating questions might be somewhat frustrating :) Some of the things like anamorphic video and SAR, are issues from the past - to

Re: [Cin] video on LPCM DVD from DV method

2024-01-20 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 20.01.2024 16:20, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 20.01.2024 15:22, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 20 янв. 2024 г., 17:08 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 20.01.2024 13:44, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: > https://youtu.be/-NE2LZsVUjo > > grand total of  two and half minutes at

Re: [Cin] video on LPCM DVD from DV method

2024-01-20 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 20.01.2024 15:22, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 20 янв. 2024 г., 17:08 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 20.01.2024 13:44, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: > https://youtu.be/-NE2LZsVUjo > > grand total of  two and half minutes at whooping 5 fps. Good to see it is possible "^"

Re: [Cin] video on LPCM DVD from DV method

2024-01-20 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 20.01.2024 13:44, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: https://youtu.be/-NE2LZsVUjo grand total of two and half minutes at whooping 5 fps. Good to see it is possible "^" As LPCM is standard audio on DV video, and as released PAL DVD Videos must contain at least one audio track using the PCM,

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-19 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 19.01.2024 22:58, skrev Andrea paz: Well, I would say that I just don't understand how CinGG works! I was wrong in thinking that since Info-->Detail provided the same information as ffmpeg, then CinGG and ffmpeg worked the same way with non-square pixels. Instead we return to Raffaella

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-19 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 19.01.2024 21:42, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 19.01.2024 17:56, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 7:54 PM Andrea paz via Cin wrote: I am opening a new post because the previous one, for me, was becoming too confusing. I quote Terje's latest email:

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-19 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 19.01.2024 17:56, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 7:54 PM Andrea paz via Cin wrote: I am opening a new post because the previous one, for me, was becoming too confusing. I quote Terje's latest email:

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-19 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 19.01.2024 14:42, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 6:34 PM Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: Start cinelerra-gg from terminal so you can see terminal output Open your source in cinelerra-gg as usual, choice format settings, go to DVD creation window. Select all values as

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-18 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 18.01.2024 20:05, skrev Andrea paz: Thanks for the link to stackexchange. Reading this post and others (also the discussion on ffmpeg from when they switched from PAR to SAR) I think the formula: "Yet, with DAR = SAR * PAR HDV 1080i: 16/9 = (1440/1080) * (4/3) = 1.7778 HDV 1280p: 16/9

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-18 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 19.01.2024 00:46, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 16.01.2024 16:34, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: Start cinelerra-gg from terminal so you can see terminal output Open your source in cinelerra-gg as usual, choice format settings, go to DVD creation window. What source, a DV file, and

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-18 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 16:34, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: Start cinelerra-gg from terminal so you can see terminal output Open your source in cinelerra-gg as usual, choice format settings, go to DVD creation window. What source, a DV file, and should this be a Raw "PCM Audio CD" without video? I

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-18 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 17.01.2024 19:59, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 18:23 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 17.01.2024 01:34, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 03:07 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 16.01.2024 17:53, skrev Andrea paz: >>

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-17 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 17.01.2024 20:22, skrev Andrea paz: @ Andrea, I forgot to ask if you have a chance to make some screenshots examples? I think it will ease a lot to clarify the text. ;) @Terje One idea is to put some pictures, another is to make a video to put privately on CinGG's Youtube channel; so you

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-17 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 17.01.2024 15:17, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 17.01.2024 10:54, skrev Andrea paz: I have prepared version 3. One consideration: The render produces an interlaced media. RMB --> Info --> Assett Interlacing does not provide this information, but in RMB --> Info --> Detail there are two

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-17 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 17.01.2024 01:34, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 03:07 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 16.01.2024 17:53, skrev Andrea paz: >> I just installed the latest cin-x86_64 AppImage, started as root, loaded a HDV clip to test to create a BD iso/str

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-17 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 17.01.2024 10:54, skrev Andrea paz: I have prepared version 3. One consideration: The render produces an interlaced media. RMB --> Info --> Assett Interlacing does not provide this information, but in RMB --> Info --> Detail there are two entries regarding interlacing ("interlace

Re: [Cin] HDV is really 4 channel?

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 21:30, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 16.01.2024 20:23, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/1258 see attached to this ticket  modded decoder ... I wonder if Terje's audio really 4ch? if so,may be we can decode it to 4* wav first, then encode them

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 17:53, skrev Andrea paz: I just installed the latest cin-x86_64 AppImage, started as root, loaded a HDV clip to test to create a BD iso/structure, without Blu-ray device connected (similar like testing create DVD). But I got the following error message; any idea what is wrong

Re: [Cin] HDV is really 4 channel?

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 23:32, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 01:14 Andrew Randrianasulu : ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 01:04 Andrew Randrianasulu : ср, 17 янв. 2024 г., 00:42 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 16.01.2024 21:35, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:

[Cin] dvdisaster, a tool for creating error correction data for optical media

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
I just discovered this tool that aims to make backups on CD, DVD and BD discs safer. Any knowledge or experience with it? https://dvdisaster.jcea.es/ https://dvdisaster.jcea.es/misc.html#manual -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

Re: [Cin] HDV is really 4 channel?

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 21:35, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вт, 16 янв. 2024 г., 23:30 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 16.01.2024 20:23, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/1258 see attached to this ticket  modded decoder ... I wonder if Terje's audio really 4ch? if

Re: [Cin] HDV is really 4 channel?

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 20:23, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/1258 see attached to this ticket  modded decoder ... I wonder if Terje's audio really 4ch? if so,may be we can decode it to 4* wav first, then encode them correctly to bluray lpcm / dvd pcm / ac3 ... I did

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
using DeVeDe, but that is throwing some of the images away) On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:02 PM Terje J. Hanssen via Cin wrote: According to wikipedia, 16:9 SD video formats are also valid BD-Video formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Video SD   720 × 480 29.97i

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 19:29, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вт, 16 янв. 2024 г., 21:01 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 16.01.2024 17:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вт, 16 янв. 2024 г., 19:19 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 16.01.2024 05:58, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 17:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вт, 16 янв. 2024 г., 19:19 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 16.01.2024 05:58, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: so yeah, seems  like sd 16:9 missing. easy to add I wonder if we should modify 1440*1080 presets to also

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 17:19, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 16.01.2024 05:58, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: so yeah, seems  like sd 16:9 missing. easy to add I wonder if we should modify 1440*1080 presets to also be wide always? How it looks now {if source is hdv unscaled}  in real (HD) TV

Re: [Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 05:58, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: so yeah, seems  like sd 16:9 missing. easy to add I wonder if we should modify 1440*1080 presets to also be wide always? How it looks now {if source is hdv unscaled}  in real (HD) TV connected to BD player ? The FHD option

[Cin] SD 16:9 missing among CinGG BD-Render Video Formats

2024-01-15 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
According to wikipedia, 16:9 SD video formats are also valid BD-Video formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Video SD 720 × 480 29.97i     4:3 or 16:9[d] (anamorhic) 720 × 576 25i    4:3 or 16:9[d] The Create BD Format contains 720 x 576/ 25i/p and 720 x 480/ 29.97i/p

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-15 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 15.01.2024 20:04, skrev Andrea paz: I would like to submit changes to the manual that relate to aspect ratio. The first two parts concern additions or changes to existing parts. The third part is completely new (to be put in the appendices?). This third part is barely mentioned and lacks

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-15 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 15.01.2024 17:03, skrev Andrea paz: A convenience when doing these tests is to apply the "Downsample" filter to the timeline track and set it, in H and W, to at least the value 40. This will immediately show whether the pixel shape is square or rectangular, and, in the latter case,

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 14.01.2024 20:50, skrev Andrea paz: @Terje J. Hanssen Could you provide a few seconds of raw DV and HDV video? I can't find any for testing. @Andrea I try to send you 5 sec of each, HDV (16MB)  and DV (18 MB) video clip attached by two emails. -- Cin mailing list

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 14 янв. 2024 г., 19:51 Terje J. Hanssen: Den 14.01.2024 17:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 13.01.2024 18:48, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 07:47 Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin: Den 11.01.2024 23:43

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
., 19:51 Terje J. Hanssen: Den 14.01.2024 17:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 13.01.2024 18:48, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 07:47 Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin: Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: ... 4

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 07:47 Andrew Randrianasulu : сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: ... 4 a) Cin-GG Loaded a PAL 1080i/50 HDV clip Set Format Preset: PAL 576i (16:9) - DV(D) File Render File Format

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: ... 4 a) Cin-GG Loaded a PAL 1080i/50 HDV clip Set Format Preset: PAL 576i (16:9) - DV(D) File Render File Format: FFmepg

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 14.01.2024 03:17, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 14 янв. 2024 г., 05:03 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 13.01.2024 05:47, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 14.01.2024 17:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 13.01.2024 18:48, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 07:47 Andrew Randrianasulu : сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-14 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 13.01.2024 18:48, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 07:47 Andrew Randrianasulu : сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: ... 4 a) Cin-GG Loaded a PAL 1080i/50

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-13 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 13.01.2024 05:47, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: ... 4 a) Cin-GG Loaded a PAL 1080i/50 HDV clip Set Format Preset: PAL 576i (16:9) - DV(D) File Render

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-12 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 12.01.2024 09:40, skrev Andrea paz: Also, pixel aspect ratio (PAR) is also known as sample aspect ratio (abbreviated SAR) in some industrial standards (such as H.264[2]) and output of programs (such as ffmpeg Note 3: "ffprobe shows PAR as SAR". ffmpeg.org. Retrieved 2022-06-10. Yes,

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-12 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: ... 4 a) Cin-GG Loaded a PAL 1080i/50 HDV clip Set Format Preset: PAL 576i (16:9) - DV(D) File Render File Format: FFmepg - avi   (NB! because plain Raw DV still causes DAR 4:3) Audio: Preset: avi_pcm_s16.avi   

Re: [Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-11 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: I wanted to test AV1.webm rendering from anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen sources, which have different SAR 64:45  than 1080i HDV SAR 4:3 It would be fine to get this SAR value verified  and clarified vs Wikipedia's table which specifies

[Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

2024-01-11 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
I wanted to test AV1.webm rendering from anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen sources, which have different SAR 64:45  than 1080i HDV SAR 4:3 It would be fine to get this SAR value verified  and clarified vs Wikipedia's table which specifies different for PAL (16:9) 720x576 : SAR 5:4, PAR

Re: [Cin] Video Formats and the latest players AV1, WebM, HEIF

2024-01-11 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 11.01.2024 03:30, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вт, 9 янв. 2024 г., 20:06 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : AV1 and WebM: Play it with your browser and smart-phone! I've just tested PAL HDV 16:9 and SD-DV 4:3 video clips rendered with Cin-GG to AV1 video and Opus audio muxed

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-09 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 09.01.2024 23:05, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вт, 9 янв. 2024 г., 23:49 Terje J. Hanssen : As seen above, FFmpeg 6.0.1 has a "cleaner output" without the dual set of [ SAR DAR ] in brackets as from FFmpeg 4.4.4 on Leap

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-09 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 09.01.2024 15:52, skrev Andrea paz: Well, I still got only 127.4 kB downloaded :) Sorry, I don't understand why it doesn't work. Yep, thanks. Now the url worked (possibly it was temporary unstable), downloaded the AppImage on Tw-Sr. Testet the same HDV 16:9 and DV 4:3 clips and they

[Cin] Video Formats and the latest players AV1, WebM, HEIF

2024-01-09 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
AV1 and WebM: Play it with your browser and smart-phone! I've just tested PAL HDV 16:9 and SD-DV 4:3 video clips rendered with Cin-GG to AV1 video and Opus audio muxed in a WebM container. They playback fine in VLC mediaplayer and not at least in  Firefox and Google-Chrome browsers on Linux.

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-09 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 09.01.2024 00:42, skrev Andrea paz: I don't know what happened here, but Dropbox say the item has been deleted and attempt to download the target url give only 60KB or 75KB I'm sorry; my fault. Here the correct link:

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-09 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 09.01.2024 00:55, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 09.01.2024 00:13, skrev Phyllis Smith via Cin: On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 8:14 AM Andrea paz via Cin wrote: I struggle to keep up with your emails, Me too.  I am still recovering from getting a bad cold. @Terje do you want me to

Re: [Cin] current set of my patches

2024-01-09 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 09.01.2024 08:37, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 09.01.2024 05:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: вт, 9 янв. 2024 г., 05:46 Andrew Randrianasulu : So, I tried to clarify a bit that we have display aspect ratio selectable, updated cingg team copyright year, added even more

Re: [Cin] current set of my patches

2024-01-08 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 09.01.2024 05:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin: вт, 9 янв. 2024 г., 05:46 Andrew Randrianasulu : So, I tried to clarify a bit that we have display aspect ratio selectable, updated cingg team copyright year, added even more finegrained sar/dar reporting (guessed,

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-08 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 09.01.2024 00:13, skrev Phyllis Smith via Cin: On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 8:14 AM Andrea paz via Cin wrote: I struggle to keep up with your emails, Me too. I am still recovering from getting a bad cold. @Terje do you want me to build you an appimage with these patches? Thanks

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-08 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 08.01.2024 19:46, skrev Andrea paz: I created the appimage with all 4 patches. I have not tested yet due to lack of HDV clips, but now I will create them directly as Phyllis indicated. The appimage starts and seems to work normally. Regarding pixbuf... I don't know what to say. Maybe it

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-08 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 08.01.2024 23:46, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вт, 9 янв. 2024 г., 01:25 Andrew Randrianasulu : пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 23:50 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 08.01.2024 20:54, skrev Andrea paz: > I created a bd.m2ts file by putting "HDV 1080i/25" as the preset.

Re: [Cin] Report guessed / detected SAR/DAR values

2024-01-08 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 08.01.2024 20:54, skrev Andrea paz: I created a bd.m2ts file by putting "HDV 1080i/25" as the preset. I think there possibly is a fault in the "HDV 1080i/25" preset (mixed with the (FHD) "1080i/25 preset" as mentioned in another post today:

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