Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I tend to agree with Dennis. The 9.9 Tohatsu on Bell weighs around 80 pounds. The dock is about 18” to 2’ above the transom. I put a safety line on the motor (in case I dropped it), sat down on the edge of the dock, and just pulled the motor up off the mount and slid it onto the dock. Not

Re: Stus-List Diesel question

2016-05-01 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Tom, One thing you might try is to is to see what type of smoke you're getting. Burning lubricating oil tends to be blue/white, which indicates your might have excess oil splashed up from the crankcase to the cylinder walls. Some splash is normal, that's the way the rings are lubricated,

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
My 25, a MK1 HIN 225, has been very dry for the 22 years I’ve owned her. So dry I don’t have a bilge pump except the OEM hand pump in the cockpit sole, and I dry out the bilge with a sponge every 6 months or so. Maybe I’m just lucky. But on my boat there are small limber holes (maybe ½”

Re: Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII 1988

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
The way ours is set up is that the whole system pulls from one tank or the other. There is a valve in the forward end of the port settee right by the pump. I have a 3M filter on my galley sink that makes me comfortable drinking the water, yes. Jim From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Diesel question

2016-05-01 Thread Franklin Schenk via CnC-List
Only time will tell.  If it starts using a lot of oil you know that there is damage to the engine.  I would check the oil each time you go out to see if it is burning oil.  If the oil level does not change you were just burning off the excess oil.  BTW, how much did you over fill on the oil?

Re: Stus-List Diesel question

2016-05-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Minor I can't remember where I heard it but as I understand it mid to low is better than full. I guess these (Yanmar 3GM/HM) engines are more likely to carry over oil into the combustion as the oil level goes up. Same thing happens when you overfill cars and my lawnmower. My lawnmower runs

Re: Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII 1988

2016-05-01 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List
Do you still own yours? May I call you this coming week? I have a ton of questions. On May 1, 2016 8:07 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" wrote: > Lorne, > > > > My 1988 30-2 has 2 tanks as you describe, one starboard under the settee > and one under the V-berth. 78

Re: Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII 1988

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
Lorne, My 1988 30-2 has 2 tanks as you describe, one starboard under the settee and one under the V-berth. 78 gallons total sounds about right. The holding tank is aft, under the floor of the starboard lazerette next to the water heater. Not sure if that is a standard or optional

Stus-List Diesel question

2016-05-01 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Alera is my second C, but my first diesel. My prior 35MK 1 had an Atomic4. I have been checking oil on my Yanmar about as often as I did on the A4, like once a season. Last summer I learned the error of my ways. But I over compensated for the low oil level and overfilled the engine. Our

Re: Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII 1988

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Boats that weren't shipped to the Great Lakes frequently had the holding tank plumbed as an extra water tank. Maybe? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 1 May 2016 at 16:13, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List wrote: > The ad for my boat says water is 78 gallons.

Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Coolthanks Dennis...sounds like a plan. Mark McMenamy C 25 "Icicle" Fort Pierce FL On May 1, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: Just put a tag line on the motor. Have a buddy stand on the main dock and man the tag line.

Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Just put a tag line on the motor. Have a buddy stand on the main dock and man the tag line. Use the halyard to lift it up to the level of the main dock. Buddy pulls it over the main dock and you lower it. If there's a cleat on the main dock on the far side, wrap the tag line around it for

Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Hi Dennis, I do back the boat and dock it stern first. However, the dock behind the boat is a good 3 feet higher than the transom and I think it'd be difficult to lift it that high. There is a finger pier to starboard that is the same level as the boat. I was thinking of raising the motor

Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
The Admiral and I use a halyard to lift and/return Touche's early 80's vintage Evinrude 7.5 from the starboard cockpit locker all the time. It's pretty easy to maneuver it and put it on the transom of the dinghy which is usually tied midships. Should work for the transom. Once the load is on

Re: Stus-List Americas Cup Books

2016-05-01 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
The books about those Cup races are all very interesting. Bertrand got his Engineering degree at MIT, his thesis was on sail design. He knew Conners very well and IIRC was a genoa trimmer in Conners crew, years prior. It's a small club of sailors that make it to that level. The Mechanic and

Re: Stus-List What is an off shore mast? 1988 Mk II

2016-05-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
It is probably one that was made by Offshore Spars. C used them pretty frequently for their masts, booms and standing rigging. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On May 1, 2016 7:15 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" wrote: > I'm reading a downloaded owner's

Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
Just because we're talking leaks and bilges, I've found water along the aft centreline and into the bilge, got the garden hose out and flooded the cockpit, couldn't find a leak until I was groping around the underside of the pedestal. But, that wasn't the leak spot. Turns out the caulk that was

Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII 1988

2016-05-01 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List
The ad for my boat says water is 78 gallons. The spec sheet in the owner's manual says "standard tank size" is 42.5 gallons. Is there a non-standard or optional sizes or do you think the ad for the boat is wrong? The line drawings in the manual also shows two tanks, two vents, two fillers. One

Stus-List What is an off shore mast? 1988 Mk II

2016-05-01 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List
I'm reading a downloaded owner's manual and it refers to an off short mast. Is there a standard mast and an off shore one? Mine has two spreaders if it makes a difference. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread Rick Bushie via CnC-List
Anchovy's boom reaches back to within four inches of the backstay. The mails'l clew falls about two feet short of the end of the boom. This winter, I actually raised her boom up a foot to create headroom in the cockpit. Luckily the mAins'l luff was a foot short to begin with. Rick Bushie

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Ed dooley via CnC-List
Mine was the bilge too. Ed Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Sailnomad wrote: > I have the same problem too, but it is in the bilge, and does not seem tn be > related to heeling or sailing. > Ahmet > Winthrop, MA > C "Tabasco" > > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Great...thanks a lot for the replies. Mark McMenamy C 25 "Icicle" Fort Pierce FL On May 1, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Sailnomad via CnC-List > wrote: I have the same problem too, but it is in the bilge, and does not seem tn be related to heeling or

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Thanks John, Dennis, Michael, and Gary. As soon as the #@()*%^ snow stops falling around here and I can uncover and raise the sail again, I'll take actual measurements and compare to the specified E dimension and report back. My boat does have tiller steering, and boom-end sheeting to a

Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Hello everyone, I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked on. I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to avoid the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more than 72 hours. Looking online I came up with a system

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Take a look at the C Brochures on the web site. You will see two versions of the early 30’s, one with end boom sheeting and the last one (d) with sheeting forward of the wheel. Maybe the difference is whether you had a tiller or wheel. Gary From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Randy, it is pretty evident that your boom is longer than what the later boats have. My boom extends only back as far as the wide spots in the coaming where the winches are mounted. Yours is longer, probably because your boat has end-boom sheeting. The later boats are sheeted about two feet in

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
I have the same problem too, but it is in the bilge, and does not seem tn be related to heeling or sailing. Ahmet Winthrop, MA C "Tabasco" On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have water in each of the aft storage bins

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Do you apply it up underneath the hull joint on the side of the boat? No. Squirt it into the deck/toe rail joint. Start at the bow, place the tip of the applicator bottle against the toe rail where

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Ed Dooley via CnC-List
Not to take away anything from Dennis' good advice, but I did exactly what you're thinking of doing on my C 24 and it solved my leaking problem. I actually probably went 1/2 turn (it was 5 years ago, so not sure). As Dennis said, there might be other reasons for your leak. And as for the butyl

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Hi Dennis, Thanks for the reply. I was worried about squeezing out the butyl tape as well. I like your captain trolly idea. Do you apply it up underneath the hull joint on the side of the boat? Yes. It's really not an excessive leak. After a sail I may have 1/4 cup of water to pull out.

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread jhnelson via CnC-List
Pretty much. You may have to go more than a 1/4 turn. But it will become obvious how much once you get startedSome of mine the nuts had backed off almost completely. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Mark McMenamy via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel

2016-05-01 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Gary, There were several renditions of Young America syndicates. This is the yacht in question https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_America_(1994_yacht) Connor won the defender series on Stars and Stripes but switched boats. Chuck Gilchrest Half Magic 1983 LF 35 Padanaram MA Sent from my

Re: Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Mark, Leaks in the hull/deck joint are not uncommon. However, one must consider whether the leak is from under the rub rail due to excessive heeling and wave action or from water ingress through the deck/toe rail interface or from the fasteners. Don't think that because it doesn't leak except

Stus-List C 25 leak

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Hello everyone, I have water in each of the aft storage bins under the settees. When it rains no water accumulates, but when we go for a sail there will be a small amount of water in each bin. After I dry it out, it stays dry until we go for a sail. What I'm thinking is there is a leak in

Re: Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel

2016-05-01 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
Painted by Roy Lichenstein. It's at the Storm King sculpture garden. Jerry. J 27-V. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List > wrote: > > Connor's Stars and Stripes was much slower than Young America and was given > the OK

Re: Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel

2016-05-01 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
The 12 Metre with the canard--forward rudder--was USA 61 sailed by Tom Blackhaller built for the 1987 Americas Cup. In Oz. She's still in Newport, at New England boat works looking pretty sad. She was apparently an incredibly difficult boat to steer but when they had it right, was very fast.

Re: Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel

2016-05-01 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Had to google it. It was a 4th Stars & Stripes (87). Had to google it but I believe the boat you’re thinking of is Tom Blackaller’s Heart of America. John > On May 1, 2016, at 1:16 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List > wrote: > > Actually I thought Young America was the

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
The "E" measurement of the C 30-1 is 11.50'. That would be from the stern of the mast along the boom to the edge of the main leach when fully pulled back by the outhaul. You may be an inch or two shorter, if so I doubt replacing the sail just for that would make any sense. It is hard to tell

Re: Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel

2016-05-01 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Actually I thought Young America was the boat with the forward rudder. old age is terrible as I can’t recall the skipper’s name - very famous and talented fellow. Conners went with a 2nd Stars & Stripes. John > On May 1, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List >

Re: Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel

2016-05-01 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
I was at a presentation many years ago where they spoke about Liberty. Apparently she had a list from day one which they had to compensate for with ballast. Liberty ended up being a heavier boat with less sail area than Australia II. Really not a fair fight. The fact it went to seven races

Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel

2016-05-01 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Agree, John Bertrand wrote a book that described the design process of the Australian winged keel, the controversy around it, and he stated the keel was chosen to get more sail area within the rule, and the hull was very fast and another keel might have improved it further. That keel was

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Randy, A PO raised Touche's boom about 6-8 inches. I've never considered that enough to file for a change to my PHRF rating since my main sail extends fully to the design E dimension. However, your main sounds considerably smaller than design. Is that reflected in your handicap rating? If

Re: Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?

2016-05-01 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Wing keel vs fin. I think, today's winged keels are the best, most practical, and efficient way to shorten draft, but sailing performance will be better w a deep, narrow fin. The wing gets the weight low, and maintains lift and righting moment. When the boat is heeled, the wings work like an

Re: Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?

2016-05-01 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Your dates are right but I don’t believe there was any magic to the wing keel - other than a way around the 12 meter measurement rule, I believe they referred to them as winglets. The also used a film on top of the keel called “riblets”- really. John > On May 1, 2016, at 11:35 AM, robert

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Looks short to me. Prior owner trying to “tame” the boat or perhaps make it more balanced with a smaller headsail? John > On May 1, 2016, at 11:45 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List > wrote: > > Listers- > > I posted a few pictures from my first race in my new-to-me

Stus-List 30-1 Mainsail Foot Length

2016-05-01 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Listers- I posted a few pictures from my first race in my new-to-me 30-1 (hull #7) last Wednesday night at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTeUlmcm1IX1c5ZHc You can see the foot of my mainsail is considerably shorter than my boom. I'm wondering if that's "normal" for 30-1s (or

Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?

2016-05-01 Thread robert via CnC-List
The America's Cup left the NYYC in 1983 but I believe Dennis Conner won it back in Perth, Aus, in 1987. So, correct, it did not return to New York City but I am confident the Americans won it back with an even different keel..I have a book somewhere on the keel he used in Perth..it's

Re: Stus-List Travel in Cockpit vs dodger.

2016-05-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yes a dodger can be installed. Most marine canvas makers can fabricate a dodger. The arches need to be engineered first. This is usually provided by the canvas maker too. Then the canvas maker has a skeleton around which to stretch the canvas. Whoever is making the arches will be able to

Stus-List seacocks

2016-05-01 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Adam, I think new valves and new hoses, clamps, etc, are in order. There are a few choices. I like Forespar Marelon thruhulls. No metal to corrode. http://www.pbsboatstore.com/forespar-marelon-flanged-seacocks.htm?feed=Froogle=CIjrmMmWucwCFdBZhgodnJMGCw Groco makes several bronze

Stus-List Update on valves

2016-05-01 Thread Adam Hayden via CnC-List
Sorry my bad. They are the marine sea cocks not the gate valve. I should have said ball type valve. Thanks for the reminder guys. Sent from my iPhone ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we

Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

2016-05-01 Thread schiller via CnC-List
We also use the IMar Strataglass Polish. Works well on our Dodger. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C 35, Mark I) "Corsair" On 5/1/2016 7:25 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote: Dennis, I use a product from Imar called Strataglass Polish. It is highly recommended by Practical

Re: Stus-List Original gate valves

2016-05-01 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
+1 I am amazed they lasted this long. We had to do this long ago to pass an insurance survey - maybe around 1978 or so. C was using their "cheap stuff from the hardware store for a boat on a freshwater lake" thinking when they bought those valves. Same guy that used steel plates for backing up the

Re: Stus-List Original gate valves

2016-05-01 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
If they are gate valves (like a faucet), get rid of them. The likely reason they broke when you worked on them is they are old and corroded. Replace them with proper marine parts for your safety. Gary 30-1 St. Michaels MD -Original Message- From: CnC-List

Stus-List Original gate valves

2016-05-01 Thread Adam Hayden via CnC-List
I need some guidance.I was in the process of trying to dismantle the original c and c valves on the cockpit drains as they were seized and have been worried about potential flooding.Ion the process I have the valve half out. Meaning the rubber gasket where you use the screw handle on

Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

2016-05-01 Thread jim aridas via CnC-List
210 is great stuff, requires little effort, spray on, polish with an old soft tee shirt, crystal clear results. I use it on my other boat (the one without the mast) JimGalaxy 34Brielle, NJ Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Fred Hazzard

Re: Stus-List Travel in Cockpit vs dodger.

2016-05-01 Thread allen via CnC-List
Lorne, Where are you on the Chesapeake? Are you buying "SeaCure? We typically sign our emails with vessel, model and location. Allen Miles S/V Septima 30-2 Hampton, VA From: Lorne Serpa via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 11:20 PM To: Cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Lorne Serpa

Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

2016-05-01 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Dennis, I use a product from Imar called Strataglass Polish. It is highly recommended by Practical Sailor. It works wonders on my 20 year old dodger windows. Jake Jake Brodersen C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List