Re: Stus-List Painting a Painted Hull

2016-10-24 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Hey Randy, Back in May I found myself in a similar situation with my 1976 30-1 - which I just recently sold... The wife and I just put a deposit down on a Morgan 382 and we are pending survey... I hope you all will still talk to me now that I'm not officially a C owner. Anyhow, I figured I

Re: Stus-List Painting a Painted Hull

2016-10-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Randy, If you don't KNOW what paint is on the topsides, then the best course is to sand it all off. You could try priming over the old paint but you may encounter compatibility issues. When I had Touche' painted, we did not know what the previous paint(s) were. Rumors around the marina were

Stus-List Painting a Painted Hull

2016-10-24 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Listers- I've come to the conclusion that Grenadine's hull is painted the same color as her original gelcoat (red). It appears a coat of grey primer was painted over the original gelcoat, then a layer of red paint was applied. I have no idea what kind of paint was used (is there a way to

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in > Prop Change

2016-10-24 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
I replaced a Martec with a two blade fixed, and a folding two blade gori. I like the Gori, it works great, have no issues stopping the boat. I read that same article about the 3 blade gori and this did not support my own experience with the two blade, which was superior to the martec and at

Re: Stus-List Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Like 'ground' systems, marine systems are required to connect neutral to ground at the source of power, whether that is somewhere at the top of the dock for shore power, or at the generator or inverter. One of the most important connections at the inverter is from chassis ground to the boat's

Stus-List Bow roller options

2016-10-24 Thread Eugene Fodor via CnC-List
I have a C 29 mark 2 and I'm looking for thoughts on bow roller options. I saw some of the custom designs on the website, but I'm wondering if there are any off the shelf rollers that will work with the C cast metal bowsprit/nose. I measured the channel on it and it's 1-13/16 inches and most OD

Re: Stus-List Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I think you have it, that is how a GFCI works. In the case of an inverter that is floating use of a ground is a bit of an oxymoron. The principle is that every electron that comes out of one connection has to go back to the other connection. If the GFCI is directly connected to the two

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in > Prop Change

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
The Gori did poorly, though note it was a three blade folding. Also Gori spec'd the wrong size of prop according to a note at the end of the article. It is a good article but I noted that most of the props stopped from 6 kts in 8 - 10 seconds, the majority of them did 6.4 - 6.65 kts ahead. For me

Re: Stus-List Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
GFCI outlets compare current in the hot and neutral and trip if it is not the same. If an inverter has no connection at all to ground, i.e. a floating AC system, connecting either hot or neutral to ground would have no effect and not trip the ground fault. You could, in theory, sit neck deep in

Re: Stus-List Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread Tortuga via CnC-List
"Similarly with an inverter connected to a battery that is not grounded a GFCI should never trip. Theoretically in a floating system the power has to come out of the Hot lead and return in the Neutral. There will never be a ground fault to trip a GFCI. There is no ground." I'm not an electrician,

Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

2016-10-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I saw a real Bruce in a consignment store. Worth getting? My Danforth is usually very good here when it digs down into the clay. Sometimes it is about impossible to get loose. OTOH sometimes it gets one oyster shell on each fluke and does nothing ☹ Joe Coquina C 35 MK I 22 pound Danforth HT and

Re: Stus-List Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Hopefully the inverter will come with very clear instructions on how to handle ground and neutral. For normal power, ie shore power, this is the US code: "The National Electrical Code ( NEC ) requires the AC source to have a Neutral to ground bond and that there be only one such bond in the

Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

2016-10-24 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
A friend has done extensive anchor testing, if you don't watch any of his other videos, watch this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59f-OjWoq0. He picked the Spade as the best design for himself, partly because the roll bar anchors didn't work well on his setup. I use a 35-lb Delta with 100'

Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

2016-10-24 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I have a Rocna that recently got tested in a 50+ knot squall and was one of two boats in the anchorage that did not drag. So I am a happy customer. The only thing I am unhappy with is the roll bar. I did not realize it when I bought it, but the anchor does not fit under the stanchions, so it

Re: Stus-List 33-2 mainsail replacement - update

2016-10-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
When I was shopping for a new main and roller reefing 135 genoa for Imzadi a couple of months ago, I was surprised and disappointed by the response from the lofts I contacted. Make that Lack of response. I contacted a local sailmaker that I have used before, four lofts recommended by the

Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

2016-10-24 Thread Allen Miles via CnC-List
If one were to upgrade to a 33# Vulcan (30 foot boat), what would be a suitable windlass to retrieve it while fitting in the std C anchor locker? Allen Miles S/v Septima 30-2 Hampton, VA On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Over the past

Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

2016-10-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Over the past 7 years working at and now managing a municipal marina along the ICW, I've gotten to know a lot of liveaboard cruising boaters. Most liveaboard spend most of their time at anchor, so setting and holding has a high priority. From what I have seen and heard from them, the order of

Re: Stus-List Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I have a West Marine 1000 Watt inverter that I wired to a few outlets with no apparent ill effects. I use a shore power sensing relay I got from West to switch them between inverter and shore power. I used a GFCI outlet and it works when I test it. I have not tested a neutral>ground leak, maybe

Re: Stus-List Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
David, I've followed some of this thread and have a few concerns where some have mentioned using an inexpensive inverter. Using an inverter that is not intended for marine use or not properly grounded can cause problems. An inverter can produce short duration spikes which exceed the

Re: Stus-List re Inverter to Outlet Via Extension Cord?

2016-10-24 Thread David via CnC-List
Derek, I went online to determine if that was possible. Nuthin'. Thank you very much for that information. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Tortuga via CnC-List Date: 10/23/16 20:37 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-24 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
As Rob knows I back in all the time as my preferred method of docking. On the frers 33 the shaft I centered and the prop is RH so there is some prop walk to port in reverse but it is not pronounced. The biggest issues are visibility and the lack of bite of the prop when shifting from forward

Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

2016-10-24 Thread Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List
I second Dave’s view on the 3rd generation anchors. CQR is in fact the worst anchor ever made, that’s why they had to be heavily oversized to work. Delta is a 2nd generation anchor, good but not great. For such a critical piece of equipment the choice should be one of the 3rd gen anchors. Spade

Re: Stus-List 33-2 mainsail replacement - update

2016-10-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Dave, don't forget the C logo! Joel On Monday, October 24, 2016, Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > Thanks John. Brad L had also recommended them. Funny thing - I sent > them the request and no response, and they are not the only ones. I sent a > second request, we'll see

Re: Stus-List 33-2 rig inspection - what the heck are these bits used for? Cunningham.

2016-10-24 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Thanks gentlemen. Brad - I take it that the mechanical advantage from this simple cunning-ham arrangement is satisfactory for you? Unsurprisingly, the sail hardware catalogs imply that a fancy multipart tackle is appropriate, even on a dinghy. Dave Message: 8 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 03:17:30

Re: Stus-List 33-2 mainsail replacement - update

2016-10-24 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Thanks John. Brad L had also recommended them. Funny thing - I sent them the request and no response, and they are not the only ones. I sent a second request, we'll see what happens. It is interesting to compare the response from the various lofts. Dave Message: 7 Date: Mon, 24 Oct