Re: Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
No problem. Hack saw, bosun chair and poof! Shorter spreaders. :) Seriously, could be a very subtle cheat for one design or PHRF. The 35-1 class bylaws specify 3' 10.5" for spreader length. Who would notice a couple inches whacked off? Dennis C. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Rick Brass

Re: Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I really hate to be a nay sayer about anything in Sail magazine, but the last racing headsail I had made (a deck sweeper carbon fiber 155) was designed to be trimmed 4-6” off the upper spreader when hard on the wind – and the sail maker set the nominal sheet leads for 11 degrees sheeting angle.

Re: Stus-List Electronic Bilge Pump Switch

2017-05-03 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Some listers like the Water Witch. I prefer the USS Ultra Pumpswitch Mini. Very reliable. It is, however, a float type switch. http://www.tefgel.com/contain.php?param=pumpswitch_price Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:22 PM, William Walker via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Electronic Bilge Pump Switch

2017-05-03 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
I keep hearing good things about the Water Witch, and put one in along with a Whale Gulper pump. I really like the outcome, but my assessment isn't dependable as it's only been a month or two. Kindest Regards, Bruce 847.404.5092 Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone. >

Re: Stus-List Electronic Bilge Pump Switch

2017-05-03 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
I am on my second failed Johnson spx Ultima Switch. Both failed over the winter several years apart. When failed I suspect went to default "on" since drained battery before friend checked boat for me. Wiring, pump, connections ok. Switch just won't come on even when tested as per Johnson.

Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread ssjohnson via CnC-List
Just had my rudder rebuilt by Competition Composites in Ontario.  I have pics of the interior and shaft.  I had been removing the rudder every winter due to the water in the rudderso it didn't freeze. .. kept it in the heated garage...and let it drain a cup or more of black-brown

Re: Stus-List DQOTD - What is a Arcotronic 50 uf Capacitor for?

2017-05-03 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
That is probably a motor start capacitor for an AC motor. Rich > On May 3, 2017, at 22:33, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > > That size cap has to be for an inverter or maybe an older analog radar. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C 37+ > Solomons, MD >

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Thanks Gary! It works and saved money from buying another electrical load (pump). I would advise that regardless of the placement of the discharge, the pump should be as close as possible to the suction. There is a surprising amount of room under almost all the floor boards. Epoxy a block of

Re: Stus-List DQOTD - What is a Arcotronic 50 uf Capacitor for?

2017-05-03 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
500v would likely be part of a power supply for vacuum tubes. So, a boat anchor of some description if it was at all marine related. (Seems doubtful) Maybe someone had it on hand and was filtering the 12vdc supply? Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Josh Muckley

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Yep, it's frozen. A diver cleaned it out with no success. That said, the handle moves a minuscule amount. I can't get a bar in there to apply leverage. There is evidence of a weep of water over many years, as I vacuumed out more than a cup of salt crystals from that area, and it makes me a

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I keep all my seacocks shut when not in use. I don't typically use the forward berth. I can reach between my 2 batteries to get to the port. Josh On May 3, 2017 9:38 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" wrote: > Ahh! I have two batteries, so perhaps the inspection port

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Very clever arrangement! Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Sink sea cock is under the settee just aft of the forward bulkhead. I > have batteries in my compartment but you may not. I also have a

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Ahh! I have two batteries, so perhaps the inspection port is hidden under one of the batteries. I'll check the next time I'm at the boat. That being said, I don't know what to do, because removing a battery to shuts off a seacock of a boat that is going down, doesn't seem too practical.

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Remember seacocks are supposed to be lubed 2 times a year. Mine are Marlon and even they are supposed to be lubed. I only get a chance to do it 1 time a year but it seems sufficient to keep all of them smooth and easy. Josh On May 3, 2017 9:11 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List"

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Be careful reaching in that hole. Mine has a sharp splinter of wood or fiberglass that gets me every time. Josh On May 3, 2017 9:11 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" wrote: > My 1990 C 37+ has a sink in the vee berth. I am unable to find the > seacock for that sink.

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Since I can't find it, it's hard to know if it's frozen. But I'd like to find it so I can check. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Is your seacock frozen open? Might just be a barnacle. Mine is in

Re: Stus-List DQOTD - What is a Arcotronic 50 uf Capacitor for?

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
That size cap has to be for an inverter or maybe an older analog radar. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On May 3, 2017 9:00 PM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" wrote: > OK, in the box of parts left behind by the prior owner of our 1994 C > 37/40+ are two

Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
It IS under the forward battery box. And is it not inaccessible, just little difficult. Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 C 305.409.3660 > On May 3, 2017, at 6:11 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 21:09:57 -0400 > From: Gary

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Josh was a little clearer, so my bad.  In the compartment where the forward battery is, under the settee just aft of the V-Berth is a access port.  That said, we only have one battery in there, and it is mounted to the starboard side of that box, so there is no battery covering the access port. 

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Is your seacock frozen open? Might just be a barnacle. Mine is in a bad spot to be replacing and I'd do everything possible to avoid that situation. Josh On May 3, 2017 9:16 PM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" wrote: > On our 1994, there is a small round inspection port

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Having my deck wash hose port come out in the middle of the boat allows for a 25' hose to reach all areas fore, aft, port and stdb. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On May 3, 2017 9:11 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" wrote: > My 1990 C 37+ has a

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Bruce, Just to port of my forward battery box is the door to the vee berth. I would have expected it to be just to starboard of the battery box, but there are no inspection ports there either. Yes, my plan was to mount the wash down pump in the anchor locker. Thanks, Gary S/V Kaylarah

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sink sea cock is under the settee just aft of the forward bulkhead. I have batteries in my compartment but you may not. I also have a beckson port (hand hole) which allows access through the floor of the compartment. You may not have this port. It may just be a hole. I had a spare see cock in

Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
My 1990 C 37+ has a sink in the vee berth. I am unable to find the seacock for that sink. Based upon the location of the thru-hull on the outside of the boat, I would suspect it to be under the forward battery box, which would be inaccessible and thus pretty stupid. I was hoping to tap

Re: Stus-List Sink Seacock

2017-05-03 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
On our 1994, there is a small round inspection port just to port of the forward battery box, under the settee.  I might be able to find and send you a picture.  Our seacock there is unfortunately frozen, so I plan to replace it the next time the boat comes out of the water.  As for the salt

Re: Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Had mine done. ~$5k! According to the fiberglass tech, after thorough deconstruction the rudder was "fine" but nobody would have been able to tell. When you go to sell the surveyor is gonna find it and the buyer's insurance/mortgage company has a high probability of pumping the breaks over it.

Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Inspection

2017-05-03 Thread ahycrace--- via CnC-List
Ron A few years ago I took my keel off because of weeping at the keel to hull seam. I ended up replacing all of my bolts ans a bunch of other glass work. Where in Bristol is your boat? Looks like you have very good backing plates but some other issues. I've been a machinist for 40

Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Inspection

2017-05-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Picture number 5 is at the base of the stairs correct? I don't have those. As I recall the trailing edge of my keel stops just a little further forward. If I found anything like what you are finding I probably wouldn't sleep well until I dropped the keel to do further investigation. It's

Re: Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Hi Don We redid our rudder a few years ago. Crawled into stern, loosened quadrant, cables, etc. Dropped it, sawed off the skins both sides, about 4 inches in from the edge. The rudder is built with a frame of solid glass edging all around of at least 4 inches – tapping will tell you

Stus-List DQOTD - What is a Arcotronic 50 uf Capacitor for?

2017-05-03 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
OK, in the box of parts left behind by the prior owner of our 1994 C 37/40+ are two Arcotronics C.87.0EF3 50uf capacitors.  You can see a picture of them here:  1pcs - ARCOTRONICS 50uF /50µF 450V(50Hz) 500V(180/15) Capacitor - C.87.0EE3 MKP | eBay And, they're not exactly cheap, even on Ebay. 

Stus-List Keel Bolt Inspection

2017-05-03 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Thanks to the help from other owners, I had the correct information to properly torque the keel bolts. I ended up having my boatyard do the work which was probably a good thing as it was a lot of work to remove the nuts and took more tools than I could borrow. They ended up removing all nuts and

Re: Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
We do one on the bottom, one about 4-5 inches up, and one 3-4 inches from the top. Always on the trailing edge. Use 5/16 set screws and drive them in flush. Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2017, at 4:14 PM, J Roger via CnC-List > wrote: Can I

Re: Stus-List Removing water tank

2017-05-03 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
I had leaks in all three water tank on my Landfall 38. I ended up fixing(first failed at a glue attempt followed by plastic welding) the three tanks, but I decided to permanently remove the v-berth water tank and use the v-berth area for storage(presently sail storage). Having both port and

Re: Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread J Roger via CnC-List
Can I send you a PM John? About the C Rudder? Wondering if you could show where to drill.Much Obliged. JB On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:15 PM, John Irvin via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > On my 27-III we had water in the rudder. When we drilled escape holes, > one higher up to prevent

Re: Stus-List Removing water tank

2017-05-03 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
BTW, I believe the tank models from Kracor are 1-78232 (port; mold 4071) and 1-78432 (starboard, mold 5139). http://www.kracor.com/pages/marineindustry.html — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On May 3, 2017, at 2:46 PM,

Re: Stus-List Removing water tank

2017-05-03 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Hi, Jim - to remove the tank, pull the screws and remove the bunk board over the tank. You can then remove the fill and vent hoses; you should then be able to lift the tank slightly to get at the outlet fitting on the bottom of the aft end. The tank should just be resting in the cavity below

Stus-List Removing water tank

2017-05-03 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Greetings to all sailors...I have a water problem. It appears that i have a leak in my port tank. I can see water coming from under the forward inside corner. Can't see the leak only water exiting. No pipe connections nearby. My problem is to remove & repair the tank OR cut it out and covert

Re: Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
That is true, one carries the penalty both upwind and down.  If the course is OM vs. W/L then the penalty is even more severe since upwind is only 40% of the race.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL From: Dennis C. via CnC-List To: CnClist Cc: Dennis

Re: Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
The rudder on my 34 remarkably did not have this common issue. Typically, owners drill a hole in the bottom of the rudder when the boat is hauled in the fall, let it drain all winter, then seal the hole before spring launch. Sounds like what you did. The rudder on my 42 had this issue and I

Re: Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
The first time we raced the Gulfport Pensacola race in 2000, we had the 170 and 6 second penalty. We carried the 170 for the first 5-6 miles, changed down to a 155 for about 10 miles more out to the Gulfport sea buoy. Once we rounded the sea buoy, we set the chute and carried the chute AND the 6

Re: Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Friends had a 1974 C 25. When they purchased in November 2001 it still had original sails including a 170. 2 years later they purchased a new North Kevlar 150 and dropped the 170 from their inventory. The boat was much faster and no longer incurred a penalty. It is my belief that the

Re: Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
On my 27-III we had water in the rudder. When we drilled escape holes, one higher up to prevent vacuum effect, we tapped them. Now in the fall we pull the set screws and water comes out - maybe a few ounces. The winter cold causes the rest to efflorescence so in the spring we re-insert the

Re: Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
When I raced mine more regularly, I took the penalty for my 160%.  Maybe if I had a new 155% it would be OK, but in the light air, I found I needed all the SA I could get.From my times to Chatfield, it seemed like you had more light air, much like the midwest.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL

Re: Stus-List Sail advice for 35

2017-05-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
When you get the light-medium will you be going to a 160% full hoist given the heavy is 151%?RonWild CheriC 30-1STL From: Michael Brown via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Michael Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:10 AM Subject: Re:

Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

2017-05-03 Thread DON JONSSON via CnC-List
Hi I have a 1981 C 34 which I'm trying to sell, and now am concerned about the issues on the boat. The biggest one is the moisture in the rudder. About a foot up from the bottom of the rudder there has been a small quasi hole, about 1/16th of an inch, for quite a while. When I hauled the

Re: Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
This has been a good thread. Grenadine came with six headsails not counting staysails: #1 genoa, 163%, medium-light #2 genoa, 148%, medium-heavy drifter, 148%, light #3 genoa, 128%, heavy working jib, ~100%, medium-heavy storm jib, heavy Last year I raced mostly with the #2 genoa,

Re: Stus-List Sail advice for 35

2017-05-03 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
If you really want your 35 to sail higher and faster send your keel to Mars and have a high aspect modern elliptical keel made for it. They have plans. A local boat Osprey did this, has a 114 phrf and wins almost every race its in over the past 10 years or more. Jerry J Sent from my

Stus-List Sail advice - 1, 2 , 3 go

2017-05-03 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Reading the thread on sail advice, there were a couple of not so obvious nuggets I'd like to amplify. A racer buddy of mine told me, you never change down from a #1 to a #2, you always go to the #3 or blade. Good advice. Couple of posts on the sail thread said something similar. Wind force

Stus-List inboard track and sheeting angle

2017-05-03 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Jake Much different boat but similar discussion. We had a J27 that had jib tracks on cabin top for blade and genoa tracks on deck for 150. This was indeed for sheeting angle with the blade. However in any heavier winds resulted in over powered boat. The recommended solution was

Stus-List Upwind Sail inventory for 33-2

2017-05-03 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Bruno/Dave Yes #1, #2, #3 is not really meaningful to the sailmaker for design consideration but is very important for crew. The 33-2 is quite similar to our Frers 33. On the Frers 33 the conventional wisdom is 150, 140, blade. Persistence came with a nearly new #3 (smallish and capable

Stus-List Sails

2017-05-03 Thread Bill McNamara via CnC-List
All this talk about sails reminds me that we need a (new to us) criusing main for our 34, (P= 38'3" E=10'11"). Wondering if any of you might have one for sale? Bill McNamara Miss Conduct, Picton On. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations

Re: Stus-List Sail advice for 35

2017-05-03 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Even with a sail larger than 105 the sheeting angle may make a difference. There isn't much online about racing sail design for an older C 30 so some of it is guesswork and some experimenting. I wanted a sail that would cover a wide wind range, possible now with the strength of materials like