Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hey Shawn, Great, valuable response. Thanks and good luck racing. I hope you can find one crew w racing knowledge. The rest will fall inline. Best of luck. Chuck S, Resolute, 1989 C 34R Pasadena, Md > On December 17, 2019 at 10:11 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List > wrote: > > I'm

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
I'm going to give my perspective as a novice racer (although I did race Lasers as a teen), and what didn't work to keep me as crew. I crewed on my neighbour's boat for two distance races, a two day regatta, and about half a dozen Sunday club races since the spring. My last race with him was a few

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
But, Ed, a full party cup is a given! Laisser bon temps rouler! Dennis C. On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:23 PM Edward Levert via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have to disagree with Dennis on the value of boat T shirts. We had 16 oz > styrofoam cups with the boat name and boat with

Re: Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment - now 35-1 AC install

2019-12-17 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Wrong email. Sorry all ! Delete comment My A:C is tucked in bottom drawer nav station vents both side over settles and 1in forward berth too ! John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat www.flirtingwithfire.com On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:51 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List wrote:  Can you Use last

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Edward Levert via CnC-List
I have to disagree with Dennis on the value of boat T shirts. We had 16 oz styrofoam cups with the boat name and boat with sailplan printed on the cups. Perhaps it was our age at the time but it always seemed the crew couldn't care less what they were wearing if the cup was always full! On light

Re: Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment - now 35-1 AC install

2019-12-17 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Can you Use last week ? I took the time to fill it out and we even looked at it I have been off (trying) for 2 days trying to use time We also have not had any numbers for the past few months to go by as far as sales right ? what’s the most important thing you would like to discuss on the form

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Like Button ! :) John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat www.flirtingwithfire.com On Dec 17, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:  1. Don't be a jerk. no one wants to sail with a screamer. 2. there is no 2. On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:24 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Great points Andy ! If your course ever Takes you into Oriental NC please reach out! would love to say hello and meet up for a cold one John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat www.flirtingwithfire.com On Dec 17, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:  Sail with people you

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:17 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Keep it relaxed. Have fun. Focus more on the enjoyment than the > performance. After the crew starts showing up regularly, they'll start > wanting to be more competitive. It should come from them. > >

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
It’s good to do some some sailing with your crew before entering in a race. Get some friends and maybe their friends and go sailing together and treat your guests to fun on your boat the same as what you would do if racing. If they have fun word will spread and before you know it you will have a

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Keep it relaxed. Have fun. Focus more on the enjoyment than the performance. After the crew starts showing up regularly, they'll start wanting to be more competitive. It should come from them. Give out a bunch of T-shirts. When other folks see your crew on the dock and on the boat in them

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
1+ to Joel's and Andrew's lists. Others have mentioned getting friends rather than rock stars--amen to that! Also, supply appropriate liquids and lunch if an all day affair and have a few adult beverages after the racing is done, at the dock or clubhouse.  Also, treat them to crew tickets to any

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
My wife came out with us on a Wednesday night race (our local “serious” night) once. Afterward she said, “ you have quite a potty mouth on the boat.” I thought I’d been fairly well behaved so I asked the girls about it. They said “I don’t know what the f*** she’s talking about! Andy Andrew

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I Weight

2019-12-17 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Yes that was with all spars and standing rigging aboard (and probably 15-20 pounds of wood cradling them). At the time she didn’t have a vang. Yes Grenadine is tiller-steered. I weighed her en route home from buying her, with all gear aboard, on certified truck scales. Later at home I took

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
1. Don't be a jerk. no one wants to sail with a screamer. 2. there is no 2. On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:24 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Sail with people you like! > > Let the guys on the bow do the bow; let the guys on the halyards and > sheets do the halyards

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Sail with people you like! Let the guys on the bow do the bow; let the guys on the halyards and sheets do the halyards and sheets. If you’re steering, steer! If they have a screw up you can be pretty sure they know and equally sure they are working to fix it. They do t need you to tell them.

Re: Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment

2019-12-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I'm talking about the storages under the starboard side settee seat. You could put 13 gallon Plastimo flex tanks in 1, 2 or 3 of them. It wouldn't be very efficient as the hull curvature would probably prevent full expansion of the tanks. With the aft dinette under seat storage empty once you

Re: Stus-List Boat weights

2019-12-17 Thread G Donald Wagner via CnC-List
I was an IRC measurer  for a for a few years, when IRC was just gaining popularity in the USIRC is a measurement rule, and requires that boats be measured or for production boats that the manufacturer certify the empty weights.IRC required that we weigh  boats from a single calibrated load cell

Re: Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment - now 35-1 AC install

2019-12-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Joe, If you decide to install an AC, get with me. My buddy and I have installed several. I can help. I have a big discharge grill in the bulkhead facing aft. It kicks butt! See: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zKsuB3RRvXKwDvroCNPyUGejBHdXvZm3 The AC tucks into the aft half of the hanging

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Great idea. Also make sure you all have common goals. Having the super-intense rock star who thinks his whole future career rides on finishing first no matter what and the guy that wants the crew to give him space to cook a 4 course dinner on the same boat is not always a good combo. Joe

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-17 Thread Michael Dean via CnC-List
I had a crew member who returned to school to work on a Masters degree and eventually a Ph.D. He became president of the Graduate Students Association at a local university. I had an almost unlimited supply of ideal crew members. ·Graduate students are mostly a good age ·

Re: Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment

2019-12-17 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I am in on the air conditioning idea. My wife is less and less tolerant of heat as time marches on and some nights it is over 90 degrees air temp and mid 80s water temps past midnight ☹. I figure I would use a Y fitting and vent cold air forward and aft with bulkhead vents. I am not sure what

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I Weight

2019-12-17 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I assume that is including mast, rigging and maybe a boom vang? Is Grenadine tiller, maybe 60 pounds lighter than a wheel? With Windburn reasonably cleaned out but leaving all of the requisite safety equipment on the weight is around 9500 pounds at haulout. That is without the mast, shrouds,

Re: Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment

2019-12-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Do what I did, put a nice CruisAir 16KBTU air conditioner in the hanging locker. Moved center of weight forward and starboard. :) The easiest thing is to put one or two flex tanks for your fresh water under the settee or on the floor of the hanging locker. Then toss the OEM fresh water tank.

Re: Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment

2019-12-17 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
My 35-2 is similar, except with water tanks to starboard, so if I put enough heavy stuff under the settee it is balanced when the tanks are full...not so much when they are near empty. I have two 6V batts in port locker just behind fridge, and two more under seat of nav station, with space for a

Stus-List weight distribution and polar moment

2019-12-17 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
While we are talking about weights, something that drives me NUTS is everything heavy on my boat is on the port side. Batteries are on port. The midships water tank is on port. The largest storage area below is on port. Has anyone with a 35 MKI I figured out how to move heavy stuff to starboard?

Stus-List RE Re: listed weights

2019-12-17 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Thanks from me too! I love it when we get expert info :D I have always wondered how the 35 MK II gained so much weight vs. the MK I when they are very similar boats. Maybe they just went from “target weight” to actual weight LOL. Joe Coquina Thread creep – aircraft weight is critical and

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-17 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
All this talk about PHRF reminds me that, back in the day when a lot of C and other older model boat data was compiled, a typical course configuration where I sailed was a 15-mile triangle (five mile legs) in Lake Erie (consistent wind, more waves). The local fleet later went to a 15-mile

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-17 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Rob, thank you for jumping in on this...your explanation is very helpful; can you elaborate on how those design weights and specs affect the normally used ratios; SA to displacement; displacement to length, and Ball-Displacement?  Are the "design" numbers used or are the boats weighed?  Also,

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-17 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Rob Ball to you have a keel shoe or split torpedo bulb on your 34? On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:59 AM Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote: > When I, or any other designer, starts out a project, he makes a decision > about what weight the design is aimed at. Then create a hull shape that > has that exact

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switches

2019-12-17 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Joe, I like the idea of a 3 way toggle switch and ring terminals! Hopefully it will fit in the hole where the current switch is. Joel On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 2:51 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I use solder to connect the float switch for my electric bilge

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-17 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
When I, or any other designer, starts out a project, he makes a decision about what weight the design is aimed at. Then create a hull shape that has that exact volume. Then the rest of the design follows suit. Meanwhile, if a company wants to sell any of these, some specs need to be available