Stus-List Sail Flaking

2016-12-02 Thread Jim Eagon via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Tortuga via CnC-List
Good Old Boat and Brion Toss both have good advice re lazy jacks http://www.goodoldboat.com/reader_services/articles/tamers.php http://threesheetsnw.com/blog/2011/12/brion-toss-putting-convience-into-lazy-jacks/ Derek Kennedy SV Tortuga, 30 mk1 Ballantyne's Cove, NS

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
You don’t necessarily need a cheek block at the mast; an eye strap is fine - you just attach the line and drop it; you can adjust the lines on the lower legs. I have a small clam cleat at the end of the boom, where the control line for the jacks is attached. If you make the lines long enough,

Stus-List Lazy Jack System

2016-12-02 Thread Stu via CnC-List
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Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Richard via CnC-List
Dave, thank, I would really like to see what your design looks like! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List > wrote: > > Richard, > > I’ve never had lazy-jacks on any of my boats but have just given my new > rigger a detailed set of

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Larry via CnC-List
David I have a system that is very similar to E Z jack system and it is great. I store it when underway and only deploy it when I am ready to lower the sail. I tried their website, but there seems to be a problem with their site. I can send you a couple of pdf’s with the design and how to set

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Richard, I’ve never had lazy-jacks on any of my boats but have just given my new rigger a detailed set of drawings for a 3-leg lazy-jack system that allows me to pull on one line which will pull all the lazy-jacks tight to the mast while sailing. I really, really hate the idea of lazy-jacks

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Graham Young via CnC-List
I'll third the sentiments of Marek and Kevin.  I have a Stack Pack/Lazy Jack set-up and it is really nice equipment, but if I had it to do over again I would probably just get the lazy jacks and save the money for the pack. My lazy jacks turn on blocks on the spreaders and the lines then run to

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks

2016-12-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
btw. it is enough to move “away” (to the mast) only one side of the lazy jacks for hoisting the main. If you move the starboard side, you steer a bit off the wind (wind from the port bow) and the sail does not touch them. Marek From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Richard, if you ever go that route, I can help completing the list of materials. One advice – I am using micro blocks (where the lazy jacks are turning); some people use steel (SS) rings. I found that rings increased friction and chafe on the lines. But they are smaller (flatter) and might be

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Mike, could you elaborate a bit? Do you mean the lazy jacks are not as good as having a stackpack type arrangement? Thanks Richard S/V Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
I have lazy jacks and I have sailed on a boat with Stack Pack. Lazy Jacks are not at all the same. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bushmark4--- via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bushma...@aol.com Subject:

Stus-List Fwd: Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Marek; thanks for the advice...I sure like the idea of spending $1000 vs many $100sss! Richard S/V Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596. Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Marek

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
I concur with Marek. I have a stack pack and would personally prefer a simple set of lazyjacks and a traditional mainsail cover. On the 42' boat I race on, we keep the lazy jacks "away" forward by the goose neck. Therefore, when raising the main they do not get in the way of the battens. Before

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I am not to try dissuading you about the stack pack; however, before you spring $$$ for that improvement, try a simple set of lazy jacks. The total cost of a set would be under $100 (especially, if you do it all yourself). I find them (lazy jacks) extremely useful, especially, if you single

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Larry, thanks...sailing on thew Ohio is still good sailing; I tell people, its about a mile wide and as long as you want it to be...of course, we tack a lot Richard S/V Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596. Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville,

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2016-12-02 Thread detroito91
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Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Larry via CnC-List
I have to second Andy 2 cents I have been flying the 130/135 most of the time. I went out with an old sea-dog and he suggested putting up the 100/110 and leaving it up. I have found the 110 is very easy to handle and meets my needs. I normally go out with me and a friend. The boat is easily

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Thanks to everyone for the awesome replies: you have set out the parameters for each type of sail and backed it up with experience! If anyone out there is thinking of writing a book or article about sail selection, you guys have collectively written a whole chapter on short handed sailing!

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Richard, If the wind is 5-10 how likely are you to motor now? Anything smaller than a 125 will likely increase your motoring time/decrease your time under sail unless you have a high tolerance for SOG under 2.5 knots. When racing my 35, the difference between the 135 and 155 (main and jib) was

Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Richard Another thing you may consider for short handed sailing is some sort of a Dutchman system. One that quickly comes to mind is Doyle’s Stack Pack although other sail makers have their own systems. A friend has the Stack Pack and it makes using the main much less hassle. Once up a

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
As has been noted, it's all about personal preference. One thing we C owners have going for us is the fact that our boats perform better than most out there. With that in mind, I mostly fly my working jib, which looks like it's about 100%, maybe 110%. Even in light air I go better than most of

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Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
A fresh sail the same general size as what you have will be flatter and better shaped. so it will behave better in higher winds than an old bagged sail that may have never had a really optimal shape, even when new. The difference in a new well designed sail compared to an old sail can be very

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Hi, Richard — I’ve got a 135% for my sole furled headsail; that along with the main will cover most conditions I typically sail in on Lake Superior; I always reef the main first, usually skipping the first reef and going straight to the second reef. If it’s heavier weather, I can use a storm

Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread robert via CnC-List
Richard: I am one of those "short handed sailing for short distances"..have my boat out +100 days a season here. Got the boat in 2006it came with an inventory of head sails, e.g. 150% 3DL, 155% kevlar, 150% tri-radical dacron, 150% cross cut dacron, 100% dacron and others, but no

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I would not go below 130% or you will be going real slow a lot of the time. You can furl in enough to handle heavier days. Joe Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bushmark4--- via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 8:32 AM To:

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Richard, To echo Josh’s statement, utilizing a roller furler for your jib will increase your options. Have you ever tried to “reef” your existing 140% jib when the wind pipes up? As in furling the jib to where the clew is athwartships of the mast to create a 100% jib? While the sail shape

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Josh, thanks, in answer to your question, I do have a furler and will use it. Also, I fully agree with your assessments about wind strength and personal choices, and I am prepared to make such. My hesitancy is about whether the boat can sail reasonable well if I go to a smaller size, say a

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I assume you have a furler and intend to use it? There are a lot of personal preferences and situational choices. I had similar questions for my sail maker when I had the headsail made. I didn't mind the 145 I had but wanted to know if something bigger would eek out a little more performance.

Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection

2016-12-02 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Hi all, I have a question about short handed sailing for short distances, like when you only have an hour or two and want to go out. On such occasions, I am typically by myself; I know many of us do that. So, when such an opportunity arises what sail combination would you typically use? We're