Re: [vote] Reinhard Potz as a Cocoon committer

2003-06-23 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 10:39 PM, David Crossley wrote: I propose Reinhard Pötz to be a Cocoon committer. +1 Welcome! Diana

Re: [RT] the quest for the perfect template language

2003-04-04 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 09:56 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I really don't understand why some of you are so emotionally attached to something like but even more I'm surprised to see 'conservationism' on this list. Are you guys getting old or shy or what? ;-) I'd guess that they are all

Re: Is "build jetty-standlone" needed?

2003-04-02 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...I guess Bertrand's purpose is not to use it on production servers, but to have a small standalone server that can be used for e.g. demonstrations. Exactly, demos and teaching. What if the build target were called teaching/

Re: [OT] Porting Cocoon to the Whitespace language?

2003-04-01 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I'm starting to think that porting Cocoon to the Whitespace language (http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/) could bring a lot of benefits. Apparently this language allows one to get rid of all encoding problems by using a stric

Re: [BUG] cocoon doesn't reload

2003-03-31 Thread Diana Shannon
On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:13 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: With latest HEAD, if you do http://localhost:/?cocoon-reload=true you get an internal server error that says that "you cannot lookup components on a disposed ComponentLocator" See also: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forr

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 08:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Agreed - in this particular case, the best thing might be to cancel the current vote and make a new proposal (taking into account the "cocoon-docs alias" stuff)? Wasn't Pier going to experiment with this approach and report ba

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 10:52 PM, David Crossley wrote: Hm. Could be, although this particular subject has been discussed, semi-proposed and whatnot already at some serious length in the past, the usual circular discussion following suit hereafter. I only ever saw haphazard discussion, n

Re: [rant] Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 10:34 AM, Steven Noels wrote: My own belly tells me that people will write more and better user documentation if they get some proper playground. Having to worry about code sitting right beside their documents will not bring peace in their minds. Ok, please, expl

Re: [rant] Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Steven Noels wrote: On 24/03/2003 14:23 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I don't expect 2.0 to live long after 2.1 is out. There is no reason to. To be really honest, I'd like to see some facts backing this statement. Not technical facts, but truly compelling re

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-24 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 07:50 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: A source-only distribution is not necessarily harder to use, it all depends how it is packaged and used. ... and documented. Most of the problems I've had with oss make-install-before-try software were related to some glitch, e

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Diana Shannon
[ +1 ] creation of cocoon-docs module [ ] docs should stay in src/documentation of the code tree module(s) I feel strongly about this, give the past year of my watching cvs commits. The fact remains that many committers don't update both doc branches when committing docs. If someone needs *

Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-23 Thread Diana Shannon
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:22 AM, David Crossley wrote: I propose Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer. He has been involved with Cocoon since mid-2000 and more intensely during the past year. +1. I was lucky to meet him in person and can confirm his first-rate ideas and experience. He's offe

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-23 Thread Diana Shannon
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:38 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 1) cocoon moves to forrest for its documentation production +1 2) if so, cocoon does it before releasing 2.1 +1 3) if so, I'd like a 'fast-yet-potentially-disruptive' move rather than a 'slow-yet-carefully-planned-not-to-disrupt-

Re: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer

2003-03-23 Thread Diana Shannon
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:55 AM, David Crossley wrote: I propose Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer. He also contributed an excellent tutorial on custom generators. +1 Diana

Re: cvs disruption

2003-03-23 Thread Diana Shannon
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 02:59 AM, David Crossley wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Diana Shannon wrote: For example, current forrest build capability with cocoon's cvs is only possible with Forrest CVS, not the last Forrest release. This violates your "building on sand" p

Re: cvs disruption

2003-03-22 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 11:13 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Perhaps it's just the nature of open source software, that a tremendous amount of energy is unleashed right before a release date. Perhaps there's no other way. Still, it feels, to be honest, like poor planning. If we follow t

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs/ctwig/sample/transformations/basic03 basic03-01.xml basic03-01.xml.ignore

2003-03-22 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 09:14 AM, Stephan Michels wrote: No, I mean not ignoring for the validation, I mean ignoring for the documentation generation process. At the moment you couldn't generate the docs by Cocoon. I want to make the step invasive as less as possible. Stephan, many thank

Re: cvs disruption

2003-03-22 Thread Diana Shannon
Responding to Steven and Stefano here: On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 05:23 PM, Steven Noels wrote: there's a lot of stuff out there and we should be able to work on this as a team. Even if the transition is carefully documented (as you already did at great length), I assume there might be issu

cvs disruption (was: Re: Setting up a PMC mailinglist)

2003-03-21 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 08:15 AM, Steven Noels wrote: There's movement on the -docs list and perhaps also a Forrest quantum leap blossoming, so we'd better do this before or after this assumably disruptive step. I also wanted to state strongly that I don't believe Forrest transition need

Re: Setting up a PMC mailinglist

2003-03-21 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 08:15 AM, Steven Noels wrote: So, if we have a volunteer to update the site, and we all agree, we can start straight away. There's movement on the -docs list and perhaps also a Forrest quantum leap blossoming, so we'd better do this before or after this assumably

Re: xml.apache.org cvs details wrong

2003-03-15 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 08:16 PM, David Crossley wrote: However, this raises an issue. I presume that considering Cocoon is now a top-level project, that all reference to the Cocoon project should be removed from xml.apache.org That will be tricky because the xml-site CVS module contains al

Re: [RT] Cocoon's own publishing system

2003-03-12 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 12:22 PM, Steven Noels wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, should we perform 'forrestization' of our documents to go ahead with the plan? That's not a strict requirement, just cronifying 'cvs update', 'build docs' and some 'cp' to a live website will do ATM IIU

Re: [RT] Cocoon's own publishing system

2003-03-12 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:22 PM, Andrew Savory wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Diana Shannon wrote: I agree 100% with Andrew that two "clearly" separated repositories won't really improve on what we had. But it's all we have at the moment. Sure. I'm happy to help

Re: [RT] Cocoon's own publishing system

2003-03-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:49 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 1. Many, many committers weren't updating release and head branches with their doc updates. It took time to scrutinize differences in the branches, to make sure all relevant docs were in the release branch, which is what is used

Re: are we ready to move to cocoon.apache.org?

2003-03-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 07:30 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: I would move it in a slightly different way, that will help us to be more flexible wih the new/updated documentation for v2.1 comes out: Why not have this now for alpha/beta docs? It would save some tedious manual synching. There's

Re: Snapshot links at Cocoon website

2003-03-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 05:32 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: I suggest linking to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/mirror.cgi#nightly but I guess that's your intention ;-) Yes, but at that point we'll have to re-build the site once again... Ok, we shouldn't be so limited in rebuilding the site as

live site update complete

2003-03-10 Thread Diana Shannon
I updated the live site docs, with changes primarily reflecting the new cvs setup. A big thanks to Pier for the new cvs setup and **particularly** for making such a thorough update of all relevant docs in both 2.1 and 2.0 repositories. Diana

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.0/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/transformation SQLTransformer.java

2003-03-10 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 07:14 AM, Diana Shannon wrote: Carsten, My cvs update isn't showing the lib/optional/commons-lang-1.0.1.jar. So, in spite of your very thorough xmlutils bug fix -- many thanks -- cocoon-2.0 still isn't compiling for me based on this new bug fix. Diana

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.0/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/transformation SQLTransformer.java

2003-03-10 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 06:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified:lib jars.xml src/java/org/apache/cocoon/transformation SQLTransformer.java Added: legalLICENSE.jakarta-commons-lang lib/optional commons-lang-1.0.1

Re: docs build exception, cocoon-2.0 repo

2003-03-09 Thread Diana Shannon
On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 02:18 PM, Diana Shannon wrote: FATAL_E 2003-03-09 13:44:45.854 [] (): Exception caught org.apache.avalon.framework.configuration.ConfigurationException: Could not load parser org.apache.avalon.excalibur.xml.JaxpParser Reviewing Carsten's cvs commit

docs build exception, cocoon-2.0 repo

2003-03-09 Thread Diana Shannon
Has anyone been able to build cocoon-2.0 docs successfully? I'm trying to rule out a configuration problem on my end before digging deeper. (OS X, Java 1.3.1) I'm getting the following after ./build.sh docs docs: ERROR 2003-03-09 13:44:45.683 [] (): Could not load parser, Cocoon obje

Re: CVS move/split...

2003-03-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Diane, can you roughly push the new site live tomorrow or Monday? You bet! Thanks Pier! Dian-a- ;-)

Re: Status of CVS Repositories Renaming

2003-03-07 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 01:44 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ... Is there _anyone_ who knows how to rebuild and put live the site??? :-) :-) I can help, Pier. If someone can provide some modest language describing the new setup, I'll extend it and place it where appropriate in the xdocs

Re: [VOTE] bruno cvs commit rights

2003-02-26 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 09:17 AM, Morrison, John wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be doing an awful lot of coding atm, his patches look good and I can't see why he shouldn't be allowed to commit them himself! +1 Diana

Re: [VOTE:PMC] Proposal for Lenya as a Cocoon subproject

2003-02-24 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 06:01 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I'm asking the Cocoon PMC to vote for the inclusion of the below proposed project named Lenya (ex wyona.org) as a Cocoon subproject. This vote will take place on cocoon-dev where the Cocoon PMC lives. I'm CCing the incubator l

Re: Writing docs... Where shall I put that?

2003-02-18 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 01:24 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: As Stefano is remodeling the build system, would it be better to have it in src/blocks/proxy/doc or in src/documentation/... I'd say src/documentation for now, in spite of its imperfections... Otherwise, the doc won't be

Re: closing cocoon-docs? (was: Cocoon Project Report)

2003-02-18 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 03:56 AM, Steven Noels wrote: Sure, David - fully aware of that. My 'big hidden agenda' (duh) was to add a first step to the main cocoon build, so that others could jump in and expand. That doc makes reference to a trail-run-F target which was buried somewher

Re: Should we move mailing list names?

2003-02-04 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 02:16 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: As I've just done it for axis-dev, should we move the cocoon mailing lists from cocoon-(dev|user)@xml.apache.org to (dev|user)@cocoon.apache.org ??? Just don't forget cocoon-docs! Diana --

Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEFANO!

2003-01-21 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 07:55 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Thank you and happy birthday to all those born in January (so far, on this list, me, Sylvain, Ivelin, Pier, Jeremy... anybody else?) Me too, on Friday -- in the US, one of the more notorious -- 40 !! Definitely a cake torch!

Re: [vote] Jeff Turner for cocoon committership

2003-01-10 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 02:46 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I hereby propose Jeff Turner for cocoon committership. He is one of the major forces behind Forrest and has been proposing important patches and features addition to the main Cocoon repository. +1 One of the many qualities o

Re: [vote] Jeff Turner for cocoon committership

2003-01-10 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 02:46 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I hereby propose Jeff Turner for cocoon committership. He is one of the major forces behind Forrest and has been proposing important patches and features addition to the main Cocoon repository. +1 One of the many qualities o

Re: [vote] Michael Melhem as Cocoon committer

2003-01-10 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 10:47 PM, Ovidiu Predescu wrote: I'd like to propose Michael Melhem as Cocoon committer. He has come up with lots of ideas for improvement in various parts of Cocoon including the control flow, and recently contributed an excellent patch for expiring continua

release schedule and live site update

2002-12-04 Thread Diana Shannon
I had my fingers crossed that 2.0.4 might be released by today. However I understand the reasons for the delay. Starting today, I am traveling away from my office for the next seven to ten days and predict that I will have little, if any, time/bandwidth to update the live site. Therefore, I did

Re: cvs sticky tag problem

2002-12-04 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 07:13 AM, Giacomo Pati wrote: Can you describe the steps you've taken until you got this error (essentially the commands you've issued where in which repo)? I maintain separate cvs directories for head and release files. After checkouts, I simply use: cvs

cvs sticky tag problem

2002-12-03 Thread Diana Shannon
I was trying to sync HEAD and release versions of src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/actions/database-actions.xml but when I try to commit the updated version to the release branch, I get: cvs server: sticky tag `cocoon_2_0_3_branch' for file `database-actions.xml' is not a branch Any suggest

Re: [vote] Cocoon citizenship for Matthew Langham

2002-11-30 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, November 28, 2002, at 06:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Christian Haul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 27.Nov.2002 -- 10:19 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: All right. I hereby propose Matthew Langham for commit access. +1 (sorry for the late vote) +1 ..also being late;) +1

Re: [vote] Andrew Oliver commit access

2002-11-22 Thread Diana Shannon
On 22.Nov.2002 -- 12:42 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I would like to propose Andrew Oliver for commit access. +1 A steadfast proponent for improved docs! Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional com

Re: Release Plan for 2.0.4

2002-11-21 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 11:26 AM, Joerg Heinicke wrote: The most important bug seems to be the broken documentation (http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12396), but I can't produce the bug on my system. There are now at least 3 people with the problem. Sorry, but I

Re: [VOTE] build-time XML validation via RELAX NG

2002-11-15 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 12:21 AM, David Crossley wrote: [+1] Call 'validate-config' by default during the build. +1 Quite helpful! Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email:

Re: [important proposal] Cocoon as official Apache project

2002-10-30 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 08:29 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: +1 Hooray! Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Use Forrest to build Cocoon docs

2002-10-28 Thread Diana Shannon
I'm generally in agreement with Ken (in fact I proposed a separate CVS module for docs, powered by a Forrest webapp back in July on forrest-dev), but I agree with David that we need to clarify a number of key issues to make such a transition successful and efficient. While I haven't posted much

Re: [RT] Getting rid of the table-based layout

2002-10-19 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, October 19, 2002, at 09:17 AM, Geoff Howard wrote: Excuse my ignorance here, but isn't xml.apache.org still being served statically? You are correct. For the record, I updated the site earlier today. Diana - T

New Cocoon Committers

2002-10-14 Thread Diana Shannon
Thanks very much. Diana Shannon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[vote] Steven Noels and Bertrand Delacretaz as committers

2002-10-09 Thread Diana Shannon
tributor, one of the earliest authors of docs for cocoon cvs and third party sites (www.cocooncenter.de), prolific CocoonWiki contributor, and Cocoon community member for just over one year. Thank you for your consideration. Diana Sh

Re: build docs broken in current 2.1-dev

2002-10-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 03:51 AM, David Crossley wrote: > "build docs" seems to be broken in 2.1-dev > or it is just mine (2.0.3-dev is fine). > The debug messages do not seem to reveal issues. If you look in the logs, you will see that Cocoon is complaining about not finding the SVGS

Re: Publication on cocoon

2002-09-29 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 03:50 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Ok, agreed. I only wanted to give a hint that most articles are > already linked in the docs. I agree with Carsten's earlier point. Most articles have links within existing docs. > BTW: What does our documentation team

Re: Best way to start developing an application based on C2.1

2002-07-24 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, at 05:42 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Just a tip: if you install Cocoon jars in the WEB-INF/lib, you can add > your classes in WEB-INF/classes, and just restart Tomcat to use the new > classes. I do it also when developing Cocoon itself, since classes come > b

Re: Christopher Oliver as Cocoon committer

2002-07-22 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 03:24 AM, Ovidiu Predescu wrote: > I'd like to propose Christopher Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> as > committer > to Cocoon. +1 Great news! Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a

[release] site updated

2002-07-15 Thread Diana Shannon
Based on the status of 2.0.3 branch as of this am, the web site was updated. This includes javadocs (in spite of some warnings on build) and regular documentation. -- Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: [samples] Results OS X, Java 1.3.1

2002-07-12 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 07:42 AM, Diana Shannon wrote: > Platform: Mac > OS: OS X 10.1.5 > Compiler: Pizza Sorry: JVM 1.3.1 Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, emai

[samples] Results OS X, Java 1.3.1

2002-07-12 Thread Diana Shannon
Platform: Mac OS: OS X 10.1.5 Compiler: Pizza Results - I'm getting NPEs using the Lucene indexing page - http://localhost:8080/cocoon/hello.svg Still crops funny, but that's a OSX/Batik issue, IIRC... Suggestions - What database configuration is required for ESQL sample to work? http://lo

Re: INSTALL file: small cleanup (for Diana)

2002-07-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 11:35 AM, Enke, Michael wrote: > Hi Diana, > in section 3b) Manual install: > > [unix] ./build.sh -Dinclude.webapp.libs=yes > -Dinstall.war=$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps webapp > [win32] .\build.bat -Dinclude.webapp.libs=yes > -Dinstall.war=%TOMCAT_HOME%\webapps webapp

Re: Looking for help in the upcomming release

2002-07-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 11:25 AM, Diana Shannon wrote: > >>> 5. Test *all* samples. Hit each and every sample page from links >>> beginning at http://127.0.0.1:8080/cocoon/samples/ > > You're right, John. Going to ...cocoon/samples/ is incorrect. It goes

Re: Looking for help in the upcomming release

2002-07-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 11:18 AM, John Morrison wrote: >> 5. Test *all* samples. Hit each and every sample page from links >> beginning at http://127.0.0.1:8080/cocoon/samples/ You're right, John. Going to ...cocoon/samples/ is incorrect. It goes to a 2.0.2-dev samples page. This was m

Re: Releasing 2.0.3?

2002-07-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 06:35 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > So, we need do to the following: > > a) Testing if everything works, espcially with regards to the different >JVMs - I did a quick SQL test with both versions and they both >worked. > > b) Update the documentation to inc

Re: [vote]: Applying patches

2002-07-11 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 02:26 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Hi Team, > > I think we should vote on some patches we have in bugzilla. > > And here is the list of patches we could apply for 2.1-dev: > > > 10429:[PATCH]ParameterSelector:new User doc, overview + examples Already applied ag

modules?

2002-07-10 Thread Diana Shannon
Is it correct to flag the userdocs/concepts/modules.html doc with the following note: Modules are only available in Cocoon 2.1 or 2.0.3 (with scratchpad libs). Thanks. Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fo

Re: Question was: Re: [RT] reconsidering pipeline semantics

2002-07-03 Thread Diana Shannon
Can someone help fill in the holes below? On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 10:10 AM, Jason Foster wrote: > We should really get this in a FAQ somewhere! > >>> What's the difference between having two pipelines with one matcher >>> each, and one pipeline with two matchers? >> >> If there is no oth

Re: Delaying the release?

2002-07-02 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 10:16 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: >>> >>> I'm, as developer, can work with CVS. Lots of the users can't. >> >> I think this is an education issue which can be addressed down the > road. > > AFAIU the issue, this is the point in 20% of cases. Even if true, 20% equals

Re: Delaying the release?

2002-07-02 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 09:22 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > Lots of users. > > I'm, as developer, can work with CVS. Lots of the users can't. I think this is an education issue which can be addressed down the road. Many users don't understand "why" -- i.e. the benefits of using cvs. IMHO,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] actions and modules for flow

2002-07-02 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 06:45 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Chris, I have another strong feeling: without at least a sample and a > few lines of documentation about all this and what it is supposed to > achieve, nobody will ever use it, nor even give you feedback. So I'd > strongly sugges

Re: Delaying the release?

2002-07-02 Thread Diana Shannon
On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 08:47 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Anyone still interested in a 2.0.3 release? Yes, but as we discussed off-list, I am counting on having until Monday of next week to update a number docs. I *really* need this additional time. Thanks for all your hard work in t

Re: [doc] policy for authorship credit

2002-07-01 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 08:39 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Personally in the projects I do on krysalis I simply add the person to > the authors. You know, personally, I like to share credit as much as possible, even when I do most of the work. It's easy to do, it's free to give, and f

Re: [doc] policy for authorship credit

2002-07-01 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 08:44 AM, Steven Noels wrote: > We could add some (non-required) CMS revision elements/attrs to the > document>header element and generate the revision history automatically > at the bottom of the page. An idea for Forrest, perhaps? Yes, of course. Diana --

[doc] policy for authorship credit

2002-07-01 Thread Diana Shannon
I need your input on how to think about bylines Cocoon docs, both community-contributed and core docs (soon to be patched by new volunteers). I'm struggling to understand how to credit the efforts of people who make the docs better. This effort doesn't always equate to authorship, that is, yo

Re: [RT]: One step for a minimal Cocoon

2002-07-01 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 07:36 AM, Piroumian Konstantin wrote: > For simple samples (e.g. 'hello world', 'svg') this file can be the > front-page, and then it's worth it. But the samples with their own > layout > and styles would like to have their own front-page (i18n, flow). > > So, I'd l

Re: [RT]: One step for a minimal Cocoon

2002-07-01 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 04:46 AM, Piroumian Konstantin wrote: > This is already done for the scratchpad and would be fine also for the > samples. The only problem is that you'll need also some additional info, > e.g. a short description, for the sample. I've proposed to add a > 'map:descrip

Re: Samples from HEAD broken?

2002-06-27 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, at 01:00 PM, Enke, Michael wrote: > Stephan Michels wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I noticed that the samples doesn't work anymore? I think the reason >> are the changes for the bug://10277 (mime-type). >> > > Long time ago I n

Re: docs & misc

2002-06-27 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, at 02:34 AM, Mikhail Fedotov wrote: >> After just a few hours of poking around I have decided >> that it will be much simpler for me to simply hand-code >> a whole hat-full of servlets than to try and pull any >> meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation. > > Two

Use Cases [was Re: [RT] SpitScript - B-Logic that doesn't suck ( Re: [RT] Flowmaps)]

2002-06-25 Thread Diana Shannon
On Sunday, June 23, 2002, at 12:25 PM, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: > So what use cases do we have? > > * It should definitely be easy to write wizards in a flow description > language. > I believe this is the case for flowscripts (see > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=1020526627

run.sh/command line issues

2002-06-15 Thread Diana Shannon
I am working on a How-To for the command line. To get started, I had to deal with a few issues described below. First of all, I just committed a patch for run.sh which now reflects the revised lib directory structure of 2.03 and HEAD. (Note that run.bat already reflects the correct directory s

Re: Some broken links in http://localhost:8080/cocoon/samples/welcome

2002-06-13 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, June 13, 2002, at 10:03 AM, Enke, Michael wrote: > -All links in "More Samples" (except Portal and Authentication) are > broken. > -Scratchpad sample doesn't work > -Slides link (Documentation) is broken > -Documentation (Form Handling) is broken > -Control Flow: If I follow the l

Re: Cocoon dictionnary.

2002-06-13 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, June 13, 2002, at 08:06 AM, Steven Noels wrote: > we would be able to host this. Great news, Steven. > this seems however like a core documentation effort. Could you please > synchronize your efforts with Diana's and Forrest's? The last thing we > want to happen is the document

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-13 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 06:31 PM, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: > Feel free to ask if you need further clarification about my integration > proposal. What *I'm* most interested in is a statement you made a while ago on this list about the difficulties students can have learning about cont

Re: [doc] links in misc. emails

2002-06-13 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 04:04 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Diana Shannon wrote: >> >> 1. How can we change the FAQ pointer, a signature on cocoon-user >> emails, >> to point to the new FAQ location: >>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/ > &g

Re: AcceptSelector

2002-06-12 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 01:30 PM, Michael Hartle wrote: >> How should I provide the source code so you can check it out? (I'm new >> to cocoon-dev.) >> > This sounds interesting, so just go to Bugzilla and add it as a "bug" > for Cocoon 2, prefixing your Summary with "[PATCH]" and addi

[doc] Call for doc contributors!

2002-06-11 Thread Diana Shannon
[FYI: sorry for xpost] Did you know you can help improve Cocoon's documentation? Right now, in the most recent CVS release branch and on the live site, you'll find the resources you need to contribute new FAQs, How-Tos, and Code Snippets to the Cocoon project. Specifically: How to author a

[doc] links in misc. emails

2002-06-09 Thread Diana Shannon
1. How can we change the FAQ pointer, a signature on cocoon-user emails, to point to the new FAQ location: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/ 2. Could we add links to the Bugzilla and Patch How-Tos within the autogenerated PATCH QUEUE email? If so, here is some proposed language.

Re: FW: faq on cocoon-homepage

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, June 8, 2002, at 09:49 PM, Diana Shannon wrote: >>> >>> [ http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/ ] >>> The links to the faq section are linked wrong. They point to faq.html, >>> but it's faq/ >>> >>> Regards, Daniele > &g

Re: FW: faq on cocoon-homepage

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, June 8, 2002, at 02:51 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> [ http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/ ] >> The links to the faq section are linked wrong. They point to faq.html, >> but it's faq/ >> >> Regards, Daniele I'm not sure what links she's referring to, but Vadim astutely point

Re: [doc] live site update report

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, June 8, 2002, at 12:43 PM, John Morrison wrote: > How did you build the files? I built from the release branch, once I synced docs from head. Diana - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional c

Re: [doc] live site update report

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, June 8, 2002, at 01:41 PM, Andrew Savory wrote: > >> I'm adding notices at the top of any doc related to 2.1. It's the same >> notice that appears in the WARNING note in the 2.1 branch. > > Ah, that makes a lot of sense, and should help keep track of new > features > etc for peopl

Re: [doc] live site update report

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, June 8, 2002, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Savory wrote: > Question: should the documentation on the site reflect HEAD, the stable > development branch (2.0.3-dev), or the latest stable release? I'd > suggest > either of the latter two, as most people I assume will be using the > stable >

Re: [doc] live site update report

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
On Saturday, June 8, 2002, at 12:54 PM, Diana Shannon wrote: > >> >> isn't correct. This should have been replaced by the file >> generated by check-jars... > > How is this generated? It's not a build target for the release branch. Is it ok to include

Re: [doc] live site update report

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
docs within the release branch xml-cocoon2 directory. > > isn't correct. This should have been replaced by the file > generated by check-jars... How is this generated? Diana > > J. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

[doc] live site update report

2002-06-08 Thread Diana Shannon
I just updated (with the help of Vadim on xml.apache.org) the live site. It is now synced with the release and HEAD branch docs with the exception of a few docs in src/documentation/xdoc/developing/. Carsten (or someone else) will have to inform me about a few issues there. One way to get some

Re: Cocoon article on JDJ

2002-06-07 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 12:56 PM, Mikhail Fedotov wrote: > >> We are perfectly aware of the issues with documentation > > ...and I'm aware that you are aware of it, sorry for > bothering. :) But... > >> and we are moving as fast as we can to improve things, >> believe me, also along with th

Re: [INFO] Sitemap XML Schema is available

2002-06-07 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:48 AM, Steven Noels wrote: > Let this be another call for everybody having a really good look into > it - I've generate the XMLSpy documentation out of it and put that live > (http://outerthought.net/sitemap/sitemap.html), feel free to grab > sources and put it in

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 05:37 AM, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > If we had something similar to BugZilla for documentation, that would > accept emailed doc updates, then the work of the editor could take > place on the servers set up by the users, and posted to the Doc > BugZilla for checking and

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 03:53 PM, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > This gives me wild thoughts, we could make an editor, included in the > standard build, which provides a locally served form-based interface > which allows cocoon users to submit documentation/doc- > updates/doc-patches/recipes etc

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