cocoon- vs. tomcat-authentication ???

2002-10-26 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, while browsing through the cocoon docs, i realised, that cocoon offers an authentication mechanism on it's own. Since i'm developing webapplications using tomcat i naturally use the authentication Realms provided by tomcat. But when i want to use cocoon on top of tomcat, what shall i do:

Re: cocoon- vs. tomcat-authentication ???

2002-10-26 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, matthew; Thanks for the very clear and understandable answer. For me that would lead to follwing roadmap: 1.) I drop the tomcat authentication completely. 2.) I set up the cocoon authentication let's say with an LDAP based user database. By this i protect pipelines instead of files

tracking errors during style sheet development

2002-10-26 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; I get mad debugging complex stylesheets with cocoon. When i use saxon from commandline i get the error line where the problem occured. That helps much more, than the cocoon output: Look at this original cocoon error message:

error or incomplete docs for serializers ???

2002-10-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; maybe this message belongs to the developers list, but since it is about documentation, i am unshure: During evaluation of cocoon-2.0.3 i found a discrepancy in the serializers docs: the document shows an example, how to configure a serializer. (see

Re: Cocoon and Servlets

2002-10-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
I may be wrong, but i assume, the problem comes from the redirection specs in your sitemap: When you call the source http://localhost:8080/Cocoontest/servlet/cocontest.Servlet2 cocoon probably does this by making a http:client call to that resource. This is definitely done in a separate

Howto debug sitemap flowcontrol ?

2002-10-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; Is there some logging facility, that shows me, which resources have been utilised for one specific browser-request ? A list of entries in a logfile would be very helpfull for me. It would be rather fancy, if i could get such a list in a separate browser window, telling me, which resources

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-31 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; First let me tell you: I like the idea of merging cocoon and struts, because i see both technologies to be helpfull also in conjunction... Omar Tazi wrote: If you like the MVC aspect in Struts and like the flexibility provided by XML/XSLT, and don't like the limitations that come with

cocoon and related projects based on cocoon ...

2002-10-31 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
I asked this within another thread, but since it does not belong there, i post it again under a new title: I am a bit confused. I'm following the discussons in this mailing list for about a week now and i found at least two other products/components (whatever) mentioned in the various emails

Re: cocoon and related projects based on cocoon ...

2002-10-31 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
/ = -Original Message- From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:dabbous;saxess.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cocoon and related projects based on cocoon ... I asked this within another thread, but since it does not belong

documentation issues (guides, hint, error retrieval)

2002-11-02 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hello; I want to adress three serious and tightly coupled issues concerning development and deployment of webapps using cocoon. All related to documentation: 1.) The application developers viewpoint 2.) The administrators viewpoint 3.) The cocoon error reporting issue But i do not want to

Re: documentation issues (guides, hint, error retrieval)

2002-11-02 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy, Matthew; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm sorry to be so direct: I don't think you have really yet grasped what it means to use open source software or to paricipate in an open source community. In a cathedral world you could demand that the vendor of your software answers all your

Howto use saxon with cocoon (contrib to the docs)

2002-11-05 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy there; While enabling saxon within cocoon-2.0.3 i was faced with some tricky problems. Consulting several mailing lists i finally managed to get it up running stable. Now i consider writing a little Howto enable saxon by tying together all infos i found on several places in the world. Would

Re: simpel cocoon question

2002-11-05 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; I'm also new to cocoon, but i think, your problem can be solved directly using the sitemap capabilities by merging the two xml files with aggregation then applying a stylesheet on the merged data... But you also could do it directly within the xslt context: You can use the document()

Re: simpel cocoon question (typo-correction)

2002-11-05 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
name=viewfile value=views.xml/ /map:transform map:serialize/ /map:match regards, hussayn SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Hy; I'm also new to cocoon, but i think, your problem can be solved directly using the sitemap capabilities by merging the two xml files with aggregation then applying

development documantation vs. released documentation(was: Howto usesaxon with cocoon)

2002-11-06 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, suggestion: Maybe it could help to add some additional labels at relevant places into the current documentation set, that state e.g.: new since cocoon version 2.1 last updated at 10-OCT-2002 or something like that? These labels could even be eliminated later from the released docs. Do you

Re: simpel cocoon question

2002-11-07 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; The stylesheet below will do it. The trick is recursively calling the template project-measure. I would be interested, if there is a more elegant/efficient way, doing this in xslt or inside of cocoon ... regards, hussayn ?xml version=1.0? xsl:stylesheet

Re: simpel cocoon question

2002-11-07 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hello, Joerg; thank you very much for the info. The other solution is indeed much nicer, and much easier to understand than mine ;-) regards, hussayn Joerg Heinicke wrote: Hello Hussayn, the question was also on the XSL list yesterday and there is a simpler solution:

Re: HOWTO integrate a servlet into cocoon

2002-11-08 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy again; Does anyone know, if the following Wiki Howto applies to cocoon-2.0.3 or does it apply for newer releases only??? http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=IntegrateAServlet I am still stuck after hours and hours of try and error with my servlet integration ... anyone any idea,

Re: Weird Saxon errors

2002-11-18 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; I got exactly the same problems as you describe. Finnally i managed to setup my system for operation. Unfortunately i had lots of interconnected problems, so i can't tell you, what finally solved exactly the problem, you are describing. I had a look into your problem, but couldn't reprocuce

Re: Weird Saxon errors

2002-11-18 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
: Here you have XML/XSLT combination. Can you tell me the steps you followed to setup saxon role? Thanks, Oskar - Original Message - From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Weird Saxon errors Hy; I

Re: Weird Saxon errors

2002-11-23 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
and xalan both available in my cocoon setup on my next spare time ;-) regards, hussayn Jeremy Quinn wrote: On Monday, Nov 18, 2002, at 12:50 Europe/London, SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Hy; Your stylesheet produces plain text as output. This seems to be a problem for cocoon transformers

Re: Weird Saxon errors

2002-12-01 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
J.Pietschmann wrote: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Your stylesheet produces plain text as output. This seems to be a problem for cocoon transformers. I don't know, if this behaviour is a feature, or a bug. (Maybe the developers can tell us ;-) ? It's a feature. Plain text is not a valid

Re: aggregating content from another webapp in same session context

2002-12-09 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy again; Meanwhile i could put a litle light on my problem. The sitemap config as shown below seams to produce an error 500, because cocoon creates a new http-session. I could verify by now, that my backend webapp is called, but it fails, because it is running in a non authenticated mode, by

forwarding session cookie as parameter within map:part ???

2002-12-09 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
solution, but it might work. Maybe it is also possible to forward the cookie via an action ? I haven't seen example code doing such thing. Could i achieve that with cocoon-2.0.3 ?? Should i post this message in the cocoon-dev list too ? best regards, hussayn SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Hy

Re: seeking for payed consultancy from the cocoon-comunity ...

2002-12-13 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, Mathew Thank you very much for your quick answer. I will do as you propose and send my request to Ivelin. Hopefully we will come to a quick and usable result. best regards, hussayn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hussayn, from a quick look at the code I don't think the WebServiceProxyGenerator

Re: seeking for payed consultancy from the cocoon-comunity ...

2002-12-14 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:14 AM Subject: Re: seeking for payed consultancy from the cocoon-comunity ... Hy, Mathew Thank you very much for your quick answer. I will do as you propose and send my request to Ivelin

Re: Using saxon extensions in Cocoon?

2002-12-16 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
you need to enable saxon. there are some hint in the cocoon-wiki at http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp I gathered all infos i could find on this issue into one howto document. What i did is documented in http://www.saxess.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Install You will find info, how I managed

Re: AW: Perl in cocoon

2002-12-16 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy; I don't know, if there is another concept besides aggregation in cocoon. I could think of following alternatives: 1.) use aggregation in pipeline (as Elmar pointed out) 2.) Build an action, that triggers your perl script and then read the resulting temporary file from the

Re: Problem using an external xml page

2002-12-16 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Following matcher would do it: map:match pattern=*testme map:generate type=file src=http://www.puentenet.com/XML_export/monedas.xml/ map:serialize type=xml/ /map:match But you may have a proxy problem. Are you sitting behind a firewall and can access the internet only via your

Re: How to call a servlet in the generator part of the cocoon pipeline

2002-12-17 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy, Concerning call of a servlet, that depends, where it is running. If it's in another webapp, simply call the file generator, e.g.: map:match pattern=*testme map:generate type=file src=http://www.yoursite.com/pathTotheServlet/ map:serialize type=xml/ /map:match If it is in the same

Re: Configuring JTidy

2002-12-17 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hi; i didn't use the jtidy with cocoon yet, hence i'm just guessing: 1.) if you want HTML as output, your serialiser should be the html serialiser. You are using the xml serialiser so you get xml back instead of html. 2.) In your jtidy.properties you may have a typo: output-xml=no

Re: sub sitemaps problems

2002-12-17 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
I had essentially the same problem with my webapp. I solved it as follows: map:match pattern=gallery map:redirect-to session=false uri=gallery// /map:match map:match pattern=gallery/** map:mount uri-prefix=gallery check-reload=yes reload-method=synchron

Re: Sessions and xsp:logic

2002-12-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm checking in the xsp:logic part if a xsp-session is valid. If yes load this, else load that. Is there a way to do some kind of that. I'm trying to restrict a page. Or is there a other approach. If you only want to restrict a page, why not simply setting up an

Re: cocoon-session management.

2002-12-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
cocoon basically does not preserve session state in subrequests. i'm currently working together with another developer on a general solution. We are investigating severeal approaches. Currently we are looking at the idea to add another protocol to cocoon, or enhance the http protocol. There was

Re: cocoon-session management.

2002-12-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
, hussayn Antonio Gallardo wrote: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous dijo: cocoon basically does not preserve session state in subrequests. ? I dont think soo. I have currently running an application 100% Cocoon based that works with the authentication framework. And it looks like the sessions are preserved

Re: cocoon-session management.

2002-12-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
described above. regards, hussayn SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Maybe there is a missunderstanding here? cocoon preserves session when you keep within your webapplication. But i am talking about another problem: If you are specifying a source over the http: protocol, cocoon simply opens another

Re: [Question] Re: cocoon-session management.

2002-12-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
-aware (as a client of remote applications). [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ Thanks, Manos SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: I am talking about following setup: You have two separate webapplications not necessaryly running in the same container! One app is the cocoon

cocoon usage patterns repository

2003-01-09 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; I am playing around with cocoon for quite a while now in the role of a cocoon-user. After some significant investigation i started writing down some usage patterns that came to my mind while i was preparing my company website for cocoon. Now i want to ask: 1.) Is there a repository of

Re: Server to Server Cookie?

2003-01-10 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; As far as i am informed, the web proxy generator does NOT preserve session state! I am active in this field and together with Lajos Moczar developing a new module based on a pseudo protocol (actually, it's lajos, who does the coding). Following sitemap snippet shows what we intend to

Re: HOWTO: Cocoon 2.0.4 + Apache client-side caching

2003-01-10 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, Bruce; I am happy to read this email. I am just a few days away from releasing my new cocoon based website and i wanted to go into this caching task anyway. From your email i learn, that i can save a lot of time with fiddeling around this issue by applying your HOWTO ;-) thanks a lot for

Re: cocoon usage patterns repository

2003-01-09 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Thank you, Bertrand, I will add the links to the bestPractices page as my docs will grow. regards, hussayn Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Hussayn, 1.) Is there a repository of howtos concerning cocoon usage? i know the cocoon wiki, but i only found some very basic usage pattern

cocoon based website as example site for newbies ...

2003-01-13 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, all; First i want to thank you for all the support i gained during the last 2 months from this mailing list. Now i have mastered my first company website based entirely on XML and cocoon. (curious people may look at http://www.saxess.de ) I am still at the very beginning of the cocoon

Re: cookie http header in a request generator

2003-01-13 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, You may look at : http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-users@xml.apache.org/msg22672.html regards, Hussayn Eduardo Zurita wrote: Hello, Can I use a pipeline request generator to send a cookie to a remote server?. The idea is to capture the cookie from the client (browser) and pass

Re: WebServiceProxygenerator

2003-01-16 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
concerning session support the webproxygenerator won't help you. for another (upcoming) solution see http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-users@xml.apache.org/msg22672.html Although a prototype is working on my site, it is still not mature enough to give it to the comunity. Lajos and me are still

Re: Redirect and unwanted SessionId

2003-01-16 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy; just a stupid suggestions: If the servletengine adds the sessionid magically to the redirect URL, maybe there is also a configuration param, that controls this behaviour of the servlet engine? By the way, which servlet engine are you using? regards, Hussayn Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Volker

10 basic survival tips for cocoon users (was: Logicsheet problems- global XSLT variables)

2003-01-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Mark Horgan wrote: Also, do others find working with Cocoon very frustrating? When you make a change it takes forever for the web-app to reload and re-compile the java class, espcially when it takes up so much memory. Also even when using the logs its very hard to track down bugs in ones code

Re: 10 basic survival tips for cocoon users (was: Logicsheet problems-global XSLT variables)

2003-01-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
I use the following tomcat definition for a cocoon based webapp that restarts automatically, when classes or jars change: Context path=/mywebapp docBase=/opt/cocoon/develop reloadable=true debug=0 Resources

new wiki-page: SurvivalTips for cocoon users

2003-01-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; I added my list of survivalTips to the bestPractices page on cocoon wiki: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SurvivalTips Please feel free to modify/move it as appropriate. regards, hussayn -- Dr. Hussayn Dabbous SAXESS Software Design GmbH Neuenhöfer Allee 125 50935 Köln Telefon:

Re: 10 basic survival tips for cocoon users (was: Logicsheet problems- global XSLT variables)

2003-01-20 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy Antonio; What about adding your contrib directly to http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SurvivalTips or related pages ;-) ? Maybe you could contrib a link to jEdit.org ? Maybe it is even worthwhile to add a new wikipage for XML-authoring tools ... What do you mean ? regards, hussayn

Re: 10 basic survival tips for cocoon users (was: Logicsheet problems- global XSLT variables)

2003-01-21 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy Mark H wrote: For XSLT processing i have added Saxon-6.5.2. Are you saying that Xerces doesn't deal with global XSLT variables properly? NO. Of course xalan can handle globals and i am using this feature with xalan too.. I say, that some aspects of xslt can be done with saxon, which

Re: Administrator in need of help on new install

2003-01-23 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, can you send your tomcat/apache/cocoon config files ? That should be a solvable problem ... If the mailing list agent refuses your email (due to size limitations) you can send it directly to my personal email adress if you like... regards, hussayn Jim McCullough wrote: Have you setup a

Re: Cocoon2

2003-01-24 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
i have written two cookbook examples for tomcat 4 with cocoon-2.0.4. This may help you... for tomcat: http://www.saxess.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=TomcatInitial for cocoon under tomcat: http://www.saxess.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Install regards, hussayn Mustafa Ali, Halgurt wrote: Hello,

Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

2003-01-25 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
I am with cocoon for about three months now and i remember my own frustrations when i started as a newbie. From this thread and other emails within this list and from my personal experience with cocoon i conclude: 1.) cocoon gains high (initial) attraction (many newbies questions) 2.) cocoon is

Re: Cocoon. More Answers to your dilemma

2003-01-25 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
There is one problem with your approach: What if your webapp uses different versions of commonly used jars ? I had this problem with one of my webapps, that internally used an older version of the avalon framework and some other jars incompatible to my cocoon-2.0.4. I tried hard to get my webapp

Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

2003-01-25 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
simply don't have the time to mess with it. Reading config files and figuring out how the hell to build a new application just isn't what I want to do a very trivial part of my project with. -- Robert - Original Message - From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

2003-01-25 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
I wonder why sometimes when it comes to criticism of cocoon the arguments fly higher and higher until someone gets really pissed of and angry ... And why is it so many times a newbie who becomes the center of this game ? (Also one of my first newbie questions boiled up beyond the limits, but i'm

Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

2003-01-25 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Antonio, sorry, i really misinterpreted your last email. Seems i was wrong (big apologize!) this was really not meant against you. Let me explain what i have in mind: In the OpenSources the things goes a diferent way. This is not a company where are people getting money to support you. Then the

Re: Single JAR with all the libs? - rejar the distrib ...

2003-01-26 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
If i understand you correct, you simply want to avoid deploying several cocoon-based webapps all containing tons of the same jar files ? And in order to keep your customers happy, you want to simplify the deployment by bundling all cocoon jars into one big jar, deploying this golfball.jar

How can i use RequestParamAction and match fields in parallel ?

2003-01-26 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; I want to use the RequestParam action to pass a parameter into an aggregation. In parallel the parts of the agregation shall be assembled from the match parameters {1} {2} ... My original sitemap leads to an Resource not found error: snip .../ map:actions map:action name=request

Creating a CocoonBook review page ?

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy e nio, Antonio and all the other readers of the cocoon printed literatur For me it would make sense to create a CocoonBookReview page in the wiki. May i tear all infos about the available books from this mailing list and make a start ? regards, hussayn e nio wrote: Imho, yeah the CTWIG is

newbies documentation (was: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?)

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; as a newbie (of three months age ;) ) i'd like to contribute my thoughts to the documentation area: 1.) From my now 20 years experience in computer art i learned that the newbies can tell much more about the features of a program, than the developers can. Why? because the newbie

Re: Getting a generator class to reload.

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Assuming you run tomcat: When you enable reloadable='true' in your Context the whole webapp should restart every time a class is changed. Once in a while i get unpredictable behaviour like webapp doesnt restart, or hangs during restart or even VM exits. I never figured out, what my container

Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, Bertrand short answer: join the party of course! long answer: when we want to count on newbies efforts they should be given instant access: edit deploy, online. this is what wiki does. hence i would consider the work on the cocoon documentation as secnd step towards the ultimate

Re: newbies documentation (was: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?)

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy, Derek; what you say makes perfect sense ;-) only one suggestion for the first two pages: 1.) HOWTO setup cocoon in 15 minutes ;-) should be easy by condensing the other thread 2.) HOWTO setup your intranet with XML in 1 day it took me two weeks to figure it out, but i could give away 2

Re: newbies documentation (was: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?)

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
, that the newbies wiki is a part of the cocoon wiki, independent of the underlaying technology, thus coordinating the content, not the technology. regards, hussayn Steven Noels wrote: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: My *personal* conclusions on this: 1.) Instead of shouting against the developers i started

Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, Derek; Something else crawled into my mind: I agree with you, that using a wiki as playing ground for growing knowledge, it makes perfect sense to extract mature infos from that site and fill them into the cocoon information site. But i would disagree, if this would lead to a newbies site

Re: newbie question

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
from my experience i can say, cocoon can be used for highly dynamic pages. You have to individually check on performance issues, but in general until today i have been quite satisfied with what i can gain from using it. I must admit, that i currently only use the basics. never tried the esql

Re: newbies documentation - requirements?

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, Bertrand; yes, you are right: first determine the requirements, then start thinking about how to reach them ... One additional comment to your list: 4) SHOULD make these docs and their comments searchable, separately from the technical and/or unchecked existing docs to prevent beginners

Re: newbie question

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy, Tellis im just working on a project, where: 1.) an existing webapp can't be merged with the cocoon-webapp due to incompatible jar versions 2.) the existing webapp may not be modified, except the creation of an additional XML-layer for read/write access. I am working on howto get a

Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
i personally enjoy XML-SPY, although it's tied to MS... regards, hussayn Robert Simmons wrote: Ya, I know MSoffice can save into HTML. I want it to save into XML. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January

Can i preserve POST and GET parms while forwarding a request?

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy again; I would like to pass POST parameters from a request to an aggregation call and keep them as POST. From the sources i learned, that the following sitemap would pass POST parameters as GET params (is this true at all?) : snip .../ map:actions map:action name=request

proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
hy, everyone It's time to round up i think. I have taken all the emails from today and some from yesterday dealing with this theme and extracted all information therein. The following summary therefore contains snippets of many people. I did some editing though to get things into one document.

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
From the ongoing discussion we (the users) stated, that : * currently the docs do not really separate between cocoon-users and cocoon-developers and cocoon doesn't imply an obvious separation. * the documentation seems to be more developer centric, less user centric. * especially the

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
, that the underlaying technology wouldn't be soo evident as you state. as i said before i take you very serious and once i get to the point i will remember your very valuable insight to the theme. thanks again, regards, hussayn Miles Elam wrote: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: * currently

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-27 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
regards, hussayn Tony Collen wrote: On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: therefore we started this newbies competence center approach. i personnaly whish, that eventually the whole cocoon documentation will be better separated into developers issues and users issues, where my

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
seems as if my round up generqted even more input ;-) thanks to all of you. so what do we have now? i reround up here: 1.) there is a strong push towards role based documentation 2.) there is a strong recommendation to use cocoon-wiki 3.) the discussion roles on over the whole documentation set

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, the Cocoon Competence Center is Born ;-) I have changed the link on the WIki leftMenu from new to cocoon? into For Beginners and added the cocoon in 15 minutes: page. I invented a first set of metadata: - TARGET-AUDIENCE: beginners - COCOON-RELEASES: 2.0.3, 2.0.4 - AUTHOR: Hussayn Dabbous

Re: I cant get cocoon to process??

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
once i looked hours and hours for a problem similar to what you report. finally i detected, that i introduced two match patterns, that would match on the same url within my sitemap. Since i was looking at the secnd definition wondering, why nothing helped i completely ignored the true causeing

Re: I cant get cocoon to process??

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
should reveal what happens... regards, hussayn Richard Cunliffe wrote: Hussayn, I have just had a look, and its only been matched once. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Richard. -Original Message- From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 January 2003 15:00

Re: I cant get cocoon to process??

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
why there is no processing going on. I installed cocoon by copying in cocoon.war, and set-up apache and tomcat, by using jserv. Is there anything else I should do here? Richard. -Original Message- From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 January 2003 15:33

Re: I cant get cocoon to process??

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
would look like this: http://192.168.0.5:8080/soundpool/soundpool.xml hussayn -Original Message- From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 January 2003 15:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I cant get cocoon to process?? hmm.. I would do this: take

Re: simple question

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
you can find the access times in the logfile WEB-INF/logs/access.log hussayn Jordi Valldaura wrote: I used cocoon 1.8.* in the past, now I'm using 2.0.4. In the first one each generated page had a line with the time cocoon taked to generate it. I dont see this line in cocoon 2 generated pages

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, Robert; Robert Simmons wrote: I don't think that the word newbie is such a stigma. People know when they are newbies and not. Rarely do people take it offensively unless its an You may be right, that people have been used to the word newbie. What brought me off from this title were two

Wiki broken with IE (was: The Newbies Competence Center)

2003-01-28 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Robert Simmons wrote: Incidentally, I find that when I hit the Wiki page, I don't see half of the left menu until I pass my mouse over the links. IE6 problem? -- I had the very same problem today in the morning. Seems to be an IE problem. You can avoid it as follows: Make your IE-window

Re: AW: How can I send XML as HTTP POST to a URL?

2003-01-29 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
It may be adequate to write a protocol Handler for this purpose. I think you can get hold on the original request from the Environment. Maybe .../components/source/URLSource.java is a good starting point ... hussayn Marco Rolappe wrote: you should probably code that as an action, that you can

Re: AW: How to run 2 tomcat-coocon web server

2003-01-29 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy: this message: VGJ0607E - Une inadéquation de version s'est produite entre le serveur et le circuit my.pkg.JAH0001WUIBean. translates to something like: differing versions between server and package my.pkg.JAH0001WUIBean seems to point to EJBeans stuff ... ??? i cant help more ...

Re: Using the results of an aggregate part.

2003-01-29 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
thats interesting... i got a similar usecase yesterday: o An application can be asked to give away some configuration parameters in an XML stream. i.e a list of search engines with names, links, search-parameter-descriptors and so on. o now i ask my application once for the config to get

Re: AW: How to run 2 tomcat-coocon web server

2003-01-29 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Probably you must change two things : 1.) in cocoon/WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf This section may cause the problem ... hsqldb-server class=org.apache.cocoon.components.hsqldb.ServerImpl logger=core.hsqldb-server pool-max=1 pool-min=1 parameter name=port value=9002/ parameter

Re: WARP, Jserv or mod_jk?

2003-01-29 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
You may also look into http://www.saxess.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Howto if you need more infos about building and configuring apache/tomcat/mod_jk ... (unfortunately some of the pages are only in german, but maybe it still can help. seems as if it would have been better to write it in english

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-30 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, Robert; Thank you very much for the contributions. I propose to move parts of your contrib into another page. reasons: 1.) this page deals with deploying cocoon. it should not cover essentials of cocoon internals. this is the next story to be covered, once cocoon is deployed. 2.)

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-30 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
... I'm beginning to loose interest to be honest. Right now I cant do anything with XSP with cocoon at all. because of the classpath bug it looks like two weeks of my work are about to explode in my face. Sigh. -- Robert - Original Message - From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Apache error on startup

2003-01-30 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
and the name of a shared object file to load it from How should I go about fixing this? Thanks, Richard. -Original Message- From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2003 21:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WARP, Jserv or mod_jk? just one tip

Create a new thread, if discussions leave off ground

2003-01-30 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Nowadays threads keep on growing, but the discussions sometimes turn away from the thread title. then it becomes really a problem to guess the content from the title. It would take less time to get hold on personally relevant mails ;-) thank you, Hussayn Luca Morandini wrote: -Original

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

2003-01-30 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Robert, this was NOT POLITE ! stop this attacks! thats useless and distracting! no more words on this. hussayn -- Dr. Hussayn Dabbous SAXESS Software Design GmbH Neuenhöfer Allee 125 50935 Köln Telefon: +49-221-56011-0 Fax: +49-221-56011-20 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Cocoon hosting - experiences?

2003-01-30 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
i'm using this combination: apache-1.3.26 (mod_jk, SSL) tomcat-4.1.18 cocoon-2.0.4 DB2-UDB-7.1 Secureway-LDAP-3.2.1 i'm serving my companies website with this. My overall Uptime of the site is 100% but that may not say anything, because the site is only running since one month. My site is rather

about commercial adds of cocoon consultants ...

2003-02-04 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, all; Maybe it is a good idea to create a commercial corner for cocoon somewhere ? Consultants and companies, who are supporting cocoon on a commercial base may put their footprint there. This may be a clear signal for possibly interested customers to see, there is a growing commercial support

Re: Directories

2003-02-04 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
ok, 1.) you must be pretty clear, that simply moving your directories into another folder under webapps wont be the solution of your problem. 2.) it depends what you want to achieve. the simplest solution would be to make a sitemap mount. this is done as follows (i pray, i did no mistake here,

Added a beginners page on basic cocoonapp organisation

2003-02-04 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; After a break i made up my mind and added a simple tutorial on webapp organisation using subsitemaps. Most of this has already been adressed in several places, but maybe it fits best in the Cocoon Competence Center. I would be glad, if someone could review this and eventually clearify parts

Re: !HELP! Cocoon global errors !HELP!

2003-02-06 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
If you look into the logs and search for the FIRST occurence of a stack trace, you see this message: org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: The element type content must be terminated by the matching end-tag /content.: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: The element type content must be

Using the results of an aggregate part.

2003-02-06 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, I need to transform one source into two different views and finally collect these views into one single output page. I do this with an aggregation, that implicitly calls the same source twice and feeds the result into different transformers: map:match pattern=search/canvas map:aggregate

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