This is not an appropriate mail for infrastructure@, so
I move this topics to [EMAIL PROTECTED] About the moderation
Issue, please go on talking at infrastructure@
David, you are right. I'd been fed up and tired.
I am willing to quit the job of the editor of newsletter. I won't post
to
Nope. I have to resign. The difference of the e-mail culture.
We, Japanese, do not complain about the volume of the
mails (especially when they are useful and informative)
and I am accustomed to that culture.
Someone like me (who have such a mind) should not have become
the editor of that
On 20/10/2003, at 01:40, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The original intention of the newsletter was Newsletter
will be one of the *glue* of the communities in the ASF
umbrella
... It seems that the newsletter itself is going to the contrary.
The newsletter is doing that job. All that was asked is that
G'day Tetsuya,
I'm with Noel here. The newsletter is great,
it's just that people who subscribe to announce@
expect to get short e-mails telling them how to
find things. They don't expect large e-mails with
major content.
So don't stop the overall newsletter - your
efforts are valued :. I
Hi Tetsuya!
Many people is very interested and apreciate your effort in creating a
kind of glue for all the projects under the Apache umbrella. Here
include me too, for sure!
Tetsuya Kitahata dijo:
Nope. I have to resign. The difference of the e-mail culture.
Hmm I can't believe that. :(
From: Erik Abele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Announce@ is for announcements, community@ for community musings, and
*perhaps*
newsletter@ is for the newsletter. That's it, simple, eh?
+1. (Can still put a short note in announce@)
Cheers,
Berin
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Nope. I have to resign.
Well, thanks for your contribution Tetsuya. I think it is a worthwhile
project, and I hope you reconsider or someone picks it up.
I do believe that there have been some people getting a little too picky
about policies. In
At 12:41 PM 20/10/2003, you wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tetsuya
Kitahata wrote:
Nope. I have to resign.
Well, thanks for your contribution Tetsuya. I think it is a
worthwhile
project, and I hope you reconsider or someone picks it up.
I do believe that there have been some people getting a
Joshua Slive wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Nope. I have to resign.
Well, thanks for your contribution Tetsuya. I think it is a worthwhile
project, and I hope you reconsider or someone picks it up.
I do believe that there have been some people getting a little too
On the other way, I wonder how Tetsuya gives the job too easily.
There was no strong criticism. Simply the request that instead of the
entire newsletter, an announcement be posted. Other than that, the
newsletter (and Tetsuya's handling of it) have received praise and strong
support.
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
On the other way, I wonder how Tetsuya gives the job too easily.
There was no strong criticism.
I disagree. What I have percieved is quite strong criticism and
something that in some cultures could have been seen as derision.
All this for what I really think is a *trivial*
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:38:20 +0100
David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other way, I wonder how Tetsuya gives the job too easily.
There was no strong criticism. Simply the request that instead of the
entire newsletter, an announcement be posted. Other than that, the
newsletter
Tetsuya,
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
You did a great job, as usual, on the newsletter, and you should
continue to do so, IMO.
+1, your contribution is very much appreciated.
-John K
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
I very much enjoyed the hard work that Tetsuya put into the newsletter
and I'm very sad to see him step down because of such puny reasons as to
which mailing list this newsletter should be sent.
Me too on both points.
Steve.
--
Stephen J. McConnell
mailto:[EMAIL
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:38:20 +0100
David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other way, I wonder how Tetsuya gives the job too easily.
There was no strong criticism. Simply the request that instead of the
entire newsletter, an announcement be posted. Other than that, the
newsletter
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:37:23 +0200
(Subject: RE: Inappropriate use of announce@)
Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also consider the people that are subscribed to the announce list,
all 8304 of them.
8304
Great! I have heard from Noel that the number of subscribers to
announce@ was
As the discussion now shows *nobody* is in favour of Tetsuyas
resignation
and *everybody* appreciate[sd] his efforts but it also seems that there
exist some basic misunderstandings, at least I've lost the point
somewhere
last night...
On 20/10/2003, at 10:44, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
And
Sander Striker wrote:
Also consider the people that are subscribed to the announce list, all 8304
of them. I'm sure they didn't sign up to an announcement list to receive
43k emails. If they had wanted that, they would have subscribed to a
newsletter... ;).
after any announcement to any
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
long ago, when the original httpd announce@apache.org got
repurposed into a general announcement list, did we say
anything about what subscribers could expect? do we say
anything about it now on the page where people learn about
the lists?
I've been trying to stay out of all this but the logic here just made me
bite and chime in.
- Original Message -
From: Erik Abele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@apache.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:38 PM
Subject: Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@
[snip]
I recently read that the smaller an issue is, the bigger a discussion it
gets, as everyone has something to say.
This issue must be pretty trivial then.
In any case, who decides? What is the PMC or something overlooking
these things, that can give a reasonable decision and stop all this
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:35 +0200
(Subject: Re: Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@)
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently read that the smaller an issue is, the bigger a discussion it
gets, as everyone has something to say.
This issue must be pretty
On 20/10/2003, at 04:43, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
Well, the threads on this and other similar topics showed that the
majority
of our community has a completely different point of view when it
comes
to information reception.
Compared to whom? To you, me or Tetsuyo?
EVERYBODY HAS HIS/HER OWN
On 20/10/2003, at 04:44, Rob Oxspring wrote:
we know that everybody has
his/her own preferences
Again I would have thought that most of us are grown up enough to
realise
that.
Therefore I wrote '... we [the ASF community] know ...' :)
so why don't we just go with a pull-model instead of
pushing
* Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I liked the idea of a general announce list where all this stuff is
sent and let my mail client sort it out. This is the 21st century. If
you have bandwidth, disk space or download time concerns, you're either
not using the right technology or
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
Any by trying to build an ideal world for yourself, you basically
killed whatever enthusiasm or dedication Tetsuya showed. Because you
offered no support or at least positive feedback but only we don't like
this format, this way of posting, this content, change
Clearly this mailing list needs a little levity today. Without futher
ado I forward this lame solicitation... As one of my correspondents
commented Clear Mr. Miller is not a native human-speaker, in fact he
fails the Turning test
Begin forwarded message:
From: Stewart Miller [EMAIL
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