Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-17 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> Am Friday 12 September 2008 23:53:40 schrieb Tilman Baumann: >>> Am 12.09.2008 um 22:43 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: >>> Now some Bugs: >>> Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. >> Hmm, I thought that

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-16 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Hello Dale. To answer your question : The equivalent of source in python is execfile(filename). That should work the way you said. charlie/guillaume On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 15:07 +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: > One more (dumb?) question: > > since I'd rather keep my zhone updated, I was thinking I cou

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-15 Thread Dale Maggee
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: >> Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: >> >>> When I used FSO for the first time, to workaround this, I simply >>> hardcoded my contacts in the zhone python files. It works well, also if >>> it's not so dynamic :P >>> >>> >>> >> great Idea! my contacts d

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-15 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
> Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: >> When I used FSO for the first time, to workaround this, I simply >> hardcoded my contacts in the zhone python files. It works well, also if >> it's not so dynamic :P >> >> > > great Idea! my contacts don't change often, so that would work as an > interim

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-14 Thread Dale Maggee
Fredrik Wendt wrote: > Hi. > > fre 2008-09-12 klockan 12:24 +0200 skrev Tilman Baumann: > >> I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. >> Here is what i think of it. >> [...] >> And i would say it is time for some gui guidelines for new world etk, >> efl apps. >> We have a

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-14 Thread Dale Maggee
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Dale Maggee wrote: > >> the only problem I have with zhone is missing features, such as an >> internal PIM database - at present it only uses contacts stored in the >> sim card. Also the fact that you can only send sms's to existing >> contacts , and can't ju

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 12 September 2008 23:53:40 schrieb Tilman Baumann: > Am 12.09.2008 um 22:43 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > Now some Bugs: > Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. > >>> > >>> Hmm, I thought that bug was fixed. It takes 5 seconds to powerdown > >>> her

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread Daniel Hedblom
Hi, I just want to agree 100%. Zhone is very beautiful and i like its simplicity. //danielh 2008/9/12 Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi. > > fre 2008-09-12 klockan 12:24 +0200 skrev Tilman Baumann: >> I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. >> Here is what i think of

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread clare johnstone
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > I hope I'm not the only one that think Zhone looks really nice (apart > from the default background). Although it's just a temporary UI, put > there to take advantage of the framework, I'm gonna miss it - it's > si

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Hi. fre 2008-09-12 klockan 12:24 +0200 skrev Tilman Baumann: > I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. > Here is what i think of it. > [...] > And i would say it is time for some gui guidelines for new world etk, > efl apps. > We have a great looking environment, now let's

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
Am 12.09.2008 um 22:43 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Now some Bugs: Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. >>> >>> Hmm, I thought that bug was fixed. It takes 5 seconds to powerdown >>> here, >>> holding the button for 1 second should trigger suspend. Check

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 21:52 +0200 schrieb Tilman Baumann: > Am 12.09.2008 um 19:11 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > > > Thanks for the review, I agree with almost all your points (except > > some > > Zhone things, but UI is always subjective -- and it's not at all the > > point of the fso

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
Am 12.09.2008 um 19:11 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > Thanks for the review, I agree with almost all your points (except > some > Zhone things, but UI is always subjective -- and it's not at all the > point of the fso release as you know.) Hehe, yea i have seen. Seems difficult to agree on

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Thanks for the review, I agree with almost all your points (except some Zhone things, but UI is always subjective -- and it's not at all the point of the fso release as you know.) > Now some Bugs: > Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. Hmm, I thought that bug was fixed.

Re: Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Fabian Henze
On 12.09.2008 at 18:56:00, Joachim Breitner wrote: > From what I’ve seen while coding the GUI (which is commited now), I > think the reason why there is a timeout is that if there is not, the > POWER press that you use to wake up the phone will be detected again... So how does it work on ASU? I th

Re: Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 18:23 +0200 schrieb Fabian Henze: > imho the 2 to 4 second timeout (I haven't figured out the exact time yet^^) > is > not really necessary, as the power button is so tiny, that it is very > unlikely > you press it by accident. So im my eyes a much better soluti

Re: Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Fabian Henze
On 12.09.2008 at 12:24 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: > Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. I almost > never get the thing to sleep because i fear i would press power too long > and shut it down. What happens quite often never the less. Agreed and this is especially annoy

Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Tilman Baumann: > Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. I almost > never get the thing to sleep because i fear i would press power too long > and shut it down. What happens quite often never the less. > > If i shut it

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Dale Maggee wrote: > the only problem I have with zhone is missing features, such as an > internal PIM database - at present it only uses contacts stored in the > sim card. Also the fact that you can only send sms's to existing > contacts , and can't just type in a phone number. If it wasn't for

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
Guillaume Chereau wrote: > Hello Tilman. I will just comment on the tichy part of your email, since > I am the main author. > > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:24 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: >> I like the Tichy concept of having pythons apps running as plugins in >> one python runtime. >> I always expe

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Hello Tilman. I will just comment on the tichy part of your email, since I am the main author. On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:24 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: > I like the Tichy concept of having pythons apps running as plugins in > one python runtime. > I always expected it to be something like a app l

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Dale Maggee
Tilman Baumann wrote: > Zhone works well, but it's hideous. The integrated apps approach does > not work any more in a window managed environment. And the UI is clunky. > strange, I think that zhone is *gorgeous*, and I don't find it clunky at all! IMHO it's *very* pretty, and runs nicely - in

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Tilman Baumann: > Zhone does not show german umlauts correctly in SMS and it does not > concatenate big messages composed of multiple messages. It does show umlauts correclty here (running Milestone3 on Debian, but I don’t think we have changed

FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. Here is what i think of it. I used the 2008.2 (GTK) build before. First of all, i like that it bases on illume. Illume as a WM is gorgeous. I managed to crash enlightenment some time, but it works very well and was never unable to re