wiki spam - urgent

[Petr Vanek]

Dear all, mainly old openmoko admins,

we have been dealing with the spam attacks on wiki.openmoko.org quite
successfully until now, but it s getting more and more
difficult. I have now cleared over 600 posts (big THANKS to everyone,
who keeps marking spams as for speedy deletion), which is about
weekly/biweekly spam dosage, but as every page requires three clicks,
you do the math for what muscle memory my fingers are developing :)

If there is anyone able to help from the admin side, suggestions have
been posted here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Vanous on
what could/should be implemented to eliminate spambots.

We also need more people to be granted erase permissions, i think it is
clear from the logs who contributes and is eligible.

If admins have no time, is there anyone with mediawiki experiences who
could implement the given suggestions easily (given they would need to
be granted some required access)? Please stand up. 

thank you

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Re: Very high capacity battery for GTA02

[Petr Vanek]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:11:25 +0200
Eric Smith  (ES) wrote:

>Hi
>
>Has any one experience with or suggestions for a very high capacity 
>battery for the GTA02?
>
>I want to use the device as a remote tracking device and with good 
>power management and high capacity battery want to deliver 3 weeks
>life.
>


from what has been said i think i remember that the gps chip is able to
run and record into it's internal memory while the device is suspended.
if this was possible, i can imagine that one could wake up the cpu,
fetch the collected data, store on uSD and go to sleep again. 

still, the stand by time is not that much:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime

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Re: linmodem

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 00:05:28 +0400
Ivan Matveev  (IM) wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:06:57 +0200
>Ed Kapitein  wrote:
>
>
>> [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM
>> 
>> On 09/29/2010 09:19 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I recently bought another freerunner and i have a "plan" with my
>> > provider that will give me free calls between my family members.
>> >
>> > Is there someone who ever hookup up two freerunners, using
>> > phonecalls? I took a look at [1] that uses a linmodem, software
>> > only modem. With this software you can hook up two computers using
>> > the soundcards. Is Something simmilar possible wit 2 FR 's? 
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Switched_Data
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service


this is cool. 

>GPRS is better. You pay per traffic not per time online.

i think the idea is to be able to provide a data line to someone who
doesn't have prepaid gprs, i.e. if you have a free number calling etc.


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Re: Bluetooth module

[Petr Vanek]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:32:40 +0100
Hrabosh  (H) wrote:

>But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth
>module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off. 

ahoy,

the flexible PCB for BT does seem to be able to crack very easily,
mine broke about a year ago. One day, i would love to sit down and fix
it but as it is quite tedious job under a microscope i have been
procrastinating this as much as i could. Besides, it helped me to stop
worrying about the FSO BT support and i also stopped spamming people
on public transport with tux images via BT ;))

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Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:29:37 +0100
Cedric Cellier  (CC) wrote:

>-[ Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:58:06AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus
>Schaller ]
>> The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your
>> FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation
>> hints.
>
>The n900 from Nokia does just this.
>Apparently they didn't care if it's allowed or not :)


Apparently they do care very much, observe the packaging describing in
what countries the FM can be used. Besides it, there is not much on the
box from the back side :)

This feature is cool, especially RDS, although the current n900
included code has been changed to comply with specs and RDS scrolling
text doesn't work atm. Plus, you need to listed to "your station" in
order to see the text, so no arbitrary station and your RDS notify of
SMS etc...

Bluetooth HF with display and radio connection do supplement the FM
pretty well though - music, calls, but of course it's missing the RDS
part

What would be really cool is RDS reception of weather/traffic
announcements + applying it to your navi or at least POI, ie.
FoxtrotGPS to warn you about road conditions... 

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Re: wiki down?

[Petr Vanek]

>> > Please let me know if there are any other oddities,


wiki is flooded with spam, i have been asking for admin access
privately for some time but no luck. anyone has an access and can clean
the mess or can provide access so i can help?

cheers

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] release candidate 1 for new SHR-testing 2011.1

[Petr Vanek]

>> Soon I will restore my custom settings (PIM, maps, keyboards) and
>> report again.
>
>I would appreciate any feedback on this, as I don't know how to
>save/restore/transfer my SMS but really don't want to lost them.


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#PIM_data

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wiki down?

[Petr Vanek]

Anyone knows what happened to the wiki.openmoko.org?

thank you

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Re: FoxtrotGPS 1.0.0 now available

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:37:54 -0400
Joshua Judson Rosen 
(JJR) wrote:

>Hi everybody,
>
>I'm pleased to announce the release of FoxtrotGPS 1.0.0,
>the first stable release since branching from tangoGPS;
>tarballs (with detached GnuPG signatures) are available at
>.


thank you for continuous work on this great project!

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Re: MokoTrack a real time tracker for the moko

[Petr Vanek]

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:29:40 -0700 (PDT)
Shosholoza  (S) wrote:

>You can find the source at:  http://www.monkeyslair.net/Source/
>Mokotrack Source 
>
>The app for moko is write in C and I used lowlevel d-bus
>The server is in PERL
>The script for display and to send information is in php
>The web page is in JavaScript and I used ajax for a good refresh


Col,
cheers

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Re: MokoTrack a real time tracker for the moko

[Petr Vanek]

>There is not a graphical interface so to start you must open the
>terminal go to "mokotrack" directory and type "./track"
>If everything works fine just launched the application will be
>assigned an ID and a password that is used to control the moko from
>web. To see the location you have to connect to this address:
>
>http://www.monkeyslair.net/MokoTrack.html MokoTrack web page 

Cool, where is the source?


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Re: Broken AUX :-(

[Petr Vanek]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:41:40 +0200
Alex Samorukov  (AS) wrote:

>On 09/16/2010 09:37 PM, Christ van Willegen wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I think I broke my AUX button tonight.
>>
>> Is there anyone who can fiox this?
>>
>I did this one time.
>
>Open your phone and find if aux button on board is damaged or not. In
>my case it was only unsoldered, so i soldered it back myself.

same here in 2 cases already...

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freerunner donation

[Petr Vanek]

hi,

i am looking for someone willing to donate their paperweight freerunner
laying around as i am trying to bring my friend programmer on board.

Thank you and please feel free to contact me directly off the list or pm
me on #openmoko-cdevel

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Re: QtMoko v26

[Petr Vanek]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:31:23 +0200
Radek Polak  (RP) wrote:

>qtmoko has new v26 release. You can get it from our sourceforge page
>Thanks for everybody who helped with this release. I hope you'll like
>the changes and new features.

Radek and the team - congratulations! This progress is really, really
impressive! Thank you!

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Re: please notice if any of your wsods gone with latest shr kernel upgrade [Was: QtMoko v25 - experimental with 2.6.34 kernel ]

[Petr Vanek]

>It was added to feed 2days ago together with 2.6.32.17->2.6.32.20
>upgrade so if you have:
>SHR r...@gojama / $ opkg info kernel
>Package: kernel
>Version:
>2.6.32.20-oe3.3+gitr6+a9254be10ac2294ea20165a87c09ea6afcf66d94-r0.5
>
>or newer then you have this patch too


FYI, here 2.6.32.20 was fetched but /boot/uImage symlink wasn't
automatically updated from 2.6.32.16, not sure whether bug or
intention...

i have switched now and rotate causes no wsod, which would typically
appear... great! btw. how do you rotate the touchscreen (xrands rotates
the display, but i cannot see xsetwacom to rotate the input...), thank
you.

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Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

[Petr Vanek]

On 20 Aug 2010 10:55:00 +0200
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) (CP) wrote:

>> Google can not do everything they want to do.
>
>They photograph my home without my permission,

anyone can photo your house without your permission. as for google,
afaik you can file a request not to be displayed.

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Re: [QtMoko] how to work on a theme

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:36:07 -0700 (PDT)
Joif  (J) wrote:

>
>Hi folks!
>I would like to improve the theme I made (
>http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-new-theme-tp5333298.html
>finximod ) but it is real a pain to work "on the fly" on the neo
>freerunner... You know, connecting the moko via usb, rebooting it more
>times...  There is a way to try a qtmoko theme without the neo and on
>a pc? Maybe a virtualization? I thinked about QEMU, but it is possible
>to use it with qtmoko?

yes, see here:

http://qtmoko.org/wiki/GITs

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Re: Flashing qi broke my freerunner - SOLVED

[Petr Vanek]

>With the 2+4+2 qi, WSOD seems to happen more often. And curiously 
>enough, removing power (as in pulling the battery out), doesn't help.
>It is then guaranteed to reboot into WSOD. Strange that the phone is 
>capable of keeping this state over poweroff - do qi and uboot write 
>state into flash?
>
>The solution is to boot into NOR flash, and then select "Poweroff"
>from the menu. After that, I get a normal reboot without the WSOD.
>Graphics indeed seems a bit faster with this qi. :-) I hope the WSOD
>problems can be fixed in the kernel and/or the xserver. It happens
>without this qi too - perhaps not as often.

i can confirm exactly the same findings. as JaMa stated, perhaps this
will help to find the cause of WS altogether...

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Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.

[Petr Vanek]

>I've applied the glamo patch to the qi-bootloader I use for the QtMoko
>installer-images. You can download the qi-bootloader here [1].
>It replaces the qi.img file in the installer image so you can reflash
>with this new bootloader.
>It is, of course, also possible to flash this new bootloader using
>dfu-util
>
>Ghislain
>http://www.basetrend.nl BaseTrend  -  http://www.openmobile.nl
>openmobile.nl 
>
>[1] http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#qiglamo

sounds great, seems to be this one [1], testing now

thanks a milion

Petr


1. http://www.openmobile.nl/modules/download_gallery/dlc.php?file=53


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Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.

[Petr Vanek]

>>I prepared u-boot to set new timings by default:
>>www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/glamo/242/u-boot_glamo242.udfu
>
>
>sounds great! is there a qi version setting up these parameters?
>running system from uSD is much easier with qi...

no qi? too bad :(

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Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.

[Petr Vanek]

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:42:19 +0400
Gennady Kupava  (GK) wrote:


>1.6. --->>> How to test/use it
>
>I used this settings by default for several days with qtmokoV24 and
>with debian on usd.
>
>I prepared u-boot to set new timings by default:
>www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/glamo/242/u-boot_glamo242.udfu


sounds great! is there a qi version setting up these parameters? running
system from uSD is much easier with qi...

thank you

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Re: SHR shr manual: Don't use sudo with dfu-util

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:48:50 +0200
Jose Luis Perez Diez  (JLPD) wrote:

>A Dimecres 14 Juliol 2010 10:17:58, Petr Vanek va escriure:
>> Don't use sudo with dfu-util. Make sure you are root before using
>> dfu-util!
>> 
>> Is it still an issue? Has somebody reported it as a bug so that it
>> could maybe be fixed?
>
>It has worked always for my with sudo on hosts with ubuntu (from hardy
>to lucid in my laptop) and debian (some desktops with sid, squezze,
>leny). 


thank you all, i have erased this note from the shr manual

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Re: [SHR] Problems flashing new SHR

[Petr Vanek]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:24:34 -0500
Cristian Gómez  (CG) wrote:

>Hi guys
>
>I'm trying to install new SHR image and Kernel in my FreeRunner, I
>installed Qi before as described here [1] (but don't know how to check
>it), I successfully flashed the rootfs but when I tried to flash the
>Kernel, it says:
>
>dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
>dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc.
>This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>
>Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
>No such Alternate Setting: "kernel"

not sure if you can flash device 0x:0x, you might have to
specify it, see here [1]

Petr

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SHR shr manual: Don't use sudo with dfu-util

[Petr Vanek]

The SHR manual contains a note:

Don't use sudo with dfu-util. Make sure you are root before using
dfu-util!

Is it still an issue? Has somebody reported it as a bug so that it
could maybe be fixed?

Please let me know so this note can be removed.

thank you

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Re: at

[Petr Vanek]

NHD> Place commands in a script in /var/spool/at and name it like 
NHD> NHD> TIMESTAMP.command.$$
NHD> Finally you touch /var/spool/at/trigger

my first email didn't make it through... so resending:

that's it, thank you :)

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at

[Petr Vanek]

Could someone please explain how does the the at_over_dbus work?

How can i register a command to be executed at certain time?

thank you

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
Mike Crash  (MC) wrote:

>
>Hi all,
>
>I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
>(hope) and have some improvements:
>- added support for orchards
>- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
>- added GPS menu with satellites
>- draw the street names
>
>More info here:
>http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
>
>This version needs new map, download at:
>http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
>If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it
>is old version. I will regenerate it in some days.
>
>-- 
>View this message in context:
>http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-0-2-10-released-tp5158145p5158145.html
>Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


Hi,

i have installed mcnavi during my holidays in past 2 weeks, downloaded
a map of cz from here
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4
, mcnavi starts but no map is displayed... is this the new map format
already?

thank you

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Re: My N900 experience compared to my FR experience (was: Re: [QtMoko] handset is (almost) unusable for voice calls with background noise)

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:45:05 +0300
Timo Jyrinki  (TJ) wrote:

>FreeRunner is a bit like an old (classic) car - you know it will need
>great care, you know it's not the fastest four-wheel on the block, but
>damn it's elegant when you've yourself made it go so smoothly and know
>how beautiful it is inside :)

agree.

interestingly enough, the ex-FR -> N900 user did not mention or compare
speed of the two devices even once. so although speed is important
(eagerly awaiting latest glamo development to be fine tuned) this
tells us something too...

cheers

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

[Petr Vanek]

>I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
>(hope) and have some improvements:
>- added support for orchards
>- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
>- added GPS menu with satellites
>- draw the street names

sounds cool, could we please update the 0.2.5 in shr?
thank you very much

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Re: QtMoko v24

[Petr Vanek]

On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:48:41 +0200
Radek Polak  (RP) wrote:

>Hi,
>new QtMoko images v24 are out! You can download from our sourceforge
>[1] or visit our homepage [2][3].
>
>QtMoko is stable distribution combining Debian rootfs and Qtopia user 
>interface.
>
>List of changes since previous stable version (v22):

Hi Radek and all QtMoko contributors,

this sounds really great, thank you for all the hard work!

Kind Regards

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Re: security Vulnerability or duplication in OpenERP??

[Petr Vanek]

On Sat, 22 May 2010 05:15:09 +0500
Masoom Alam  (MA) wrote:

>Hi Every one,
>
>
>I am having two problems, please idenfity, whether I am doing some
>thing wrong, or this thing is not possible in OpenERP:
>
>*Problem 1*
>
>   1. Whenever, I give access rights on an object, or set of objects
> to a particular user, all the menus related to that object are
> automatically accessible by that user. For example, in the
> account_voucher, if a list of objects such as account.voucher,
> account.journal etc, etc.  which are required for a user, are given,
> all the menus under the voucher Entries are automatically assigned.
> This is the default behavior. right? 2. Does this mean that there is
> no need to have "Administration--->Security->Grant Access to
> Menus", some how granting access to menus is useless, since objects
> access is needed and when I give object access, menus access is
> automatically granted. 3. Is there is some way, that i can grant
> access to a list of objects to two or three users, but restrict
> access to menus? 4. Scenario: I want to give access to user1 to Bank
> Receipt Voucher while to user2, Cash Payment Voucher. Now menus are
> different, but objects are same.
>
>*Problem 2*
>*
>*
>
>   1. in the _columns{}, whenever a one2many() relation is chosen for a
>   field, on search, the fields associated with the "many portion" are
>   automatically shown. Can we restrict this view, i mean certain
>   columns/fields from the "many part" can be hidden from particular
> users, while certain can be shown for search purpose only?
>
>
>
>Thanking you in advance.
>Regards,
>MM Alam
>


wrong list?

Petr

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ffalarms custom command

[Petr Vanek]

i have been using ffalarms daily and really like it. thanks for it!

have one feature request - in reality, it makes a really great atd
frontend :), would it be possible to implement a feature
to choose whether alarm should be sound or not and also to run custom
command? As all the other structure is there and it makes little sense
to start a second project with very similar aim, this could nicely
provide a way to auto turn off our freerunner in the evening and do
wake in the morning... as well as run and manage automated events... 

cheers

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Re: Status of GSM base station positioning services & clients

[Petr Vanek]

K'K> > i tried logging by using the openBmap logger but it hasn't been
updated K'K> > to the new fsogsmd api yet :/
K'K> 
K'K> actually... the monitoring API was still missing in fsogsmd.
Mickey comitted K'K> it yesterday... or the day before... don't
remember exactly. And the good K'K> thing is that the API should be the
same. Time to try again :-) K'K> 
K'K> > 
K'K> > Petr
K'K> 
K'K> -- 
K'K> Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann

huh, will do, was driving to Rome and back last week so i had only
checked back then...

thank you

Petr



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Re: Status of GSM base station positioning services & clients

[Petr Vanek]

>> Are there clients to position the user based on the GSM base
>> stations, with on- or offline databases?
>
>Yes, but none which are really "production ready", AFAIK. I mean, 
>packaged, tested, ready for end user. Nevertheless, it is supposed to 
>work at least basically.
>
>> It'd be great to be able to detect the approximate location from GSM
>> signal and then hook up to GPS faster..
>>
>
>Baruch did some work on the vala implemented openBmap-locator code. I
>am not sure what is the status of it. The code is located on the
>openBmap sourceforge git repository.
>
>Onen


i tried logging by using the openBmap logger but it hasn't been updated
to the new fsogsmd api yet :/

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[shr-u] Re: GSM registration failed

[Petr Vanek]

On Mon, 03 May 2010 16:50:24 +0200
Xavier Cremaschi  (XC) wrote:

>Hi folks,
>I made an upgrade from testing to unstable Saturday in the afternoon, 
>and I lost the ability to register on GSM network.
>
>A workaround seems to configure the loglevel in /etc/framework.conf
>from INFO to DEBUG. It works well, but currently my frameworkd.log
>weighs 6.3M and fsodeviced.log 5.5M
>
>They get bigger and bigger... any idea to avoid an incoming
>catastrophe ?

shr-unstable, right? python based FSO doesn't control gsm anymore,
fsogsmd is there for that and in my experience, DEBUG log level is nor
necessary for proper gsm function.

please check that you have fsogsmd installed, ogsmd has disabled=1 in
frameworkd.conf . this is in shr-u by default now.

hth
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Re: [QtMoko] Bug 1024

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:31:30 +0200
"Gand'"  (G) wrote:

>The correct value to fix #1024 in qtmoko in */opt/qtmoko
>/etc/default/Trolltech/Modem.conf*
>is "*yes*" instead of "always" ("always" is the value to use with SHR)


i have already corrected the 1024 page [1] on openmoko wiki if the
confusion comes from there. this was the info i got from the ML.

cheers

Petr

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Re: ventura upgrades

[Petr Vanek]

>  The menu can at best show about 5 items - so the "hide controls"
> command

thank you for the updated version, nice to have the ability to hide
the controls, if needed.

The "Page" item is hardly usable but i can imagine this is EFL issue
and nt yours... just reporting :), simply you cannot access the Reload,
Stop, Fullscreen... buttons.

What also gives me lot's of troubles is the URL dialog:

- after pressing cancel, the URL dialog will not show up, Ventura
  restart needed

- when editing url of already opened page, the url is present and
  highlighted, which is really great, but even if you move cursor
  around, the text stays highlighted so once you try to correct perhaps
  a typo, the whole text is gone and needs to be rewritten. Pressing
  Ćancel doesn't help due to the above issue.




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Re: Introducing FoxtrotGPS (was: Forking TangoGPS)

[Petr Vanek]

>Let's dance! :)

thank you for mentioning http://youloc.net/ , finally what i was
looking for! I am dancing already :))

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Re: [SHR] Podboy 1.6.1

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:19:11 +0200
Valery Febvre  (VF)
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Many releases has been out since last announce here, so it was really
>time to do a new one.
>
>Here is a summary of changes since the 1.3.0 release
>

thank you for the nice program!

one issue found: if cover is in gif, the feed will never appear in
podboy...

cheers

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Re: ventura upgrades

[Petr Vanek]

>>   Thanks to an unknown contributer (googlecode hides email ids) -
>> ventura has had a few usability improvements for finger scrolling,
>> pg up, pg 
>
>What I usually feel is that this kind of mails would need
>few lines more :
>
>What is ventura? What are its features?
>How to use it?
>Do you have a link of some screenshot?
>Do you have a link of some short ventura video?
>
>Often there are similar mails explaining some new features of
>differents new apps versions, but because I do not
>read all the mails I do not know, from time to time,
>what thing those mails are showing.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ventura

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Petr Vanek]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:28:00 -0700
jeremy jozwik  (JJ) wrote:

>On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM,   wrote:
>> Here is, I think, exactly what you ask for :
>> http://gitorious.org/kbosd
>> Easy to use, easy to hack.
>
>is that link down? its been taking some time to load at my workplace.


works here, try git directly:

git clone git://gitorious.org/kbosd/kbosd.git

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Re: shr-launcher updated

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:07:50 -0700
jeremy jozwik  (JJ) wrote:

>On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Petr Vanek  wrote:
>> not sure how for others, but for me the bottom application icon list
>> has not been visible for some weeks now, even in the latest ipk...
>> am i missing something?
>
>might have something to do with the new illum2 reconfiguration?


i am on illume 1

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Re: shr-launcher updated

[Petr Vanek]

>> There is no new commit on
>> http://code.google.com/p/shr-launcher/source/list
>> :/
>> 
>  That's right. Changed (broke ;-) too many things - so left that code
> as
>is. This version has a few more bugs to iron before I commit.
>  This ipk is a pre-release to check if there are still some show
> stoppers
>left. Maybe this week more at the most.

not sure how for others, but for me the bottom application icon list
has not been visible for some weeks now, even in the latest ipk... am i
missing something?

cheers

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Re: [SHR-t] Some glitches

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:29:27 +0100
Olivier Migeot  (OM) wrote:

>I just tried the latest SHR-t version (from early-march). Works like a

great :)

> * with previous versions, I used to disable the "lock screen" by
>setting the "lock timeout" to more than the "suspend" one (like 55
>seconds for lock when there's only 30 for suspend). That kind of thing
>might be a bad idea in the first place, but what would be the best way
>to disable it?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#idle_screen

> * GPRS works ... to a point. I can connect through the
>Settings>Connectivity panel, and it works like a charm. But once
>disconnected, I can't connect back unless I reboot. When I return to
>Settings>Connectivity, the GPRS Connection status is "UNKNOWN" and the
>"Connect/Disconnect" button shows the same "UNKNOWN" string.

this is an race condition in FSO and will be (hopefully) gone after the
fso-gsmd is in place.


> * I read somewhere that it's not a bug, but is there a way to
>re-enable the "power-button to suspend-menu" behaviour? Because on my
>phone, the power button is now only used to un-suspend, and that looks
>suboptimal to me.


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Power_Button

cheers

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Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

[Petr Vanek]

>On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Aditya Gandhi 
>wrote:
>> Why don't we really combine all efforts instead of making a huge and
>> heavy fso which is indeed short of a good phone into something more
>> specific and quicker.
>IIRC, FSO is pretty quick to start...most of the time spent is for X,
>wm, etc (may be udev also plays a role there...I've never

I think it's falling nicely into place. bit by bit the big
python based framework is being replaced by smaller fast lightweight
vala based daemons, the latest reports of running fso-gsmd are very
encouraging - fast, small memory footprint... thanks to Mickey's effort.

Sidetracking a bit, but imho i am not so much looking to the "stable
party" as i am really looking forward to have fso-gsmd and new opimd
(have since yesterday) running in my phone. i hope to see increase of
speed and performance especially during startup, but not only.

And i think yes, the FSO team is open to patches... :)

my 2cents only...

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Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

[Petr Vanek]

On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:05:58 +
Neil Jerram  (NJ) wrote:

>For me, it raises the question of why people feel that they need to
>start off their own thing, instead of contributing to an existing
>project.  I think one justification for this is if the new project
>really produces a result quickly that is clearly better than the
>existing projects.  If that doesn't happen, I'm afraid I don't see the
>point; the end result is only that we have N+1 not-quite-good-enough
>distributions, instead of N.

Neil, in principle i agree with you. But the perfect world doesn't
exist and for me as the end user variety is good.

I think with the number of FR sold, multitude of projects is just
expected behavior. We can see the same thing on desktop and it is a
never ending dispute of quality versus quantity. We could hope there
would be one official distribution providing the functioning basics for
our FR but that didn't happen. So personal initiatives just take place.
Instead of seeing the FR platform disappearing, this is hopefully a
progression.

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Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

[Petr Vanek]

>We started working on it on last September, with the support of the 
>Italian Telefoninux.org community, and after 6 months (thursday was
>our half-birthday :P) we want to share the effort of the 6 core
>members of the team with you.

thank you for the announcement. just tested the new image, feels better
then the previous one, faster.

It takes incredible 34 seconds from first PWR press till the home screen
appears with the GSM already registered! I made a test phone call  with
no issues. All functions as announced. The FSO device layer is great for
app integration (GPS).

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:28:47 -0800 (PST)
c_c  (C) wrote:

>
>Hi,
>  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

Hi,

i have been using Ventura daily now, instead of Midori. And SHR is
pushing Ventura as default into it's images! Great!

Still some glitches exist, most of them had been discussed already,
some fixed, some in progress. Now, there is a Cofundos project to
stimulate development of a good browser for openmoko [1]. As you have
been spending time on coding this very functional envelope for
libwebkit, it would make sense to try to submit an offer...

Petr

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Re: MC Navi released

[Petr Vanek]

>>After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of
>>MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I
>>found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't
>>want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story).
>
>Sounds cools, thank you!
>But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :))

found it:

http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3

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Re: MC Navi released

[Petr Vanek]

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:47:55 -0800 (PST)
Mike Crash  (MC) wrote:

>After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of
>MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I
>found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't
>want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story).

Sounds cools, thank you!
But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :))

Cheers

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Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner

[Petr Vanek]

>> I was on the verge of writing the same thing.  Are they claiming that
>> they can install a rootkit remotely by sending a carefully crafted
>> SMS?  (Seems unlikely, given the small number of bytes to play with.)
>> Or that once a rootkit is installed, they can use SMS as a trigger
>> for it?  If the latter, how do they get the rootkit on there in the
>> first place?
>
>From one of the linked articles:
>http://news.rutgers.edu/medrel/news-releases/2010/02/rutgers-researchers-20100222

Don't know about the others but this got me rolling on the floor. While
better security (hopefully not by obscurity) is the ultimate goal, as
my middleware fails to bring up GSM interface 9 of 10 times lately, i
guess i am pretty safe from any bad hackers' attacks! :)))

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02

[Petr Vanek]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:41:28 +0100
Marc Andre Tanner  (MAT) wrote:

>On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 04:26:18PM +0100, Petr Vanek wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:25:41 +0100
>> Marc Andre Tanner  (MAT) wrote:
>> 
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I finally found the time to package up my current state of things
>> >which works ok here at least for GTA02. Kernel + Qi can be
>> >downloaded from:
>> >
>> > http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/
>> 
>> 
>> thank you Marc.
>> 
>> i installed it when you posted it, tested and it works. Now after
>> resume from suspend of my SHR on 1st partition on uSD, i got WSOD...
>> haven$t seen my WSOD it for about a year now...
>
>I have also seen it a few times during development with an older SHR
>image, couldn't reproduce it reliably though. I will check it again.

the same here - couldn't reproduce. I have only 1 partition on my card
(so the menu is useless atm for me but i am willing to test) and on
some occasions the partition was not recognized, meaning i ended up
only with Power off button. Also, i tried logging in via ssh but
couldn't run fsck as it claimed (sorry, no proper log saved) fsck.auto
not found. Also, on fsck -t ext2 it reported "couldn't read mtab".

hope this helps,

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow
>>   copy of the link into clipboard
>> 
>  An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does
> the /home/root/
>directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory
>(under /home/root) and download the files there?

How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the
downloader perhaps too? "wget". Some might change it to 
"wget -c"  (continue downloading)

>
>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - preconfigured to handle https
>> 
>  Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk
> for
>now. What do you think?

I hadn't realized until yesterday that the cert was the only thing
missing, all the rest is installed by default already. Yes, either
having it in the ipk or coordinate with the SHR folks who are
apparently planning a solution too.

>
>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue)
>> 
>  That would need edje experience way beyond what I have right now.
> Maybe
>someone (Jesus McCloud) could help with this?
>  I'm still struggling with the edje file for launcher.

Have no edje knowledge either...


>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable
>> (it makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image)
>> 
>  Thats because efl-wbkit doesn't yet allow accessing webkit settings.
> Same
>problem for turning off images. I'll try working around that.


Low priority, as mentioned.


>
>vollkorn" wrote:
>> 
>> - add support for user/pass protected pages. 
>> 
>  Can you send me a link to test with? 


test here:

http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/ventura/

username and password: ventura

cheers

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02

[Petr Vanek]

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:25:41 +0100
Marc Andre Tanner  (MAT) wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I finally found the time to package up my current state of things which
>works ok here at least for GTA02. Kernel + Qi can be downloaded from:
>
> http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/


thank you Marc.

i installed it when you posted it, tested and it works. Now after
resume from suspend of my SHR on 1st partition on uSD, i got WSOD...
haven$t seen my WSOD it for about a year now...

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:28:47 -0800 (PST)
c_c  (C) wrote:

>
>Hi,
>  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

hi,

shr is considering using Ventura as default browser, which is cool.
carefully considering, here is a list of what imho should be added/fixed
before it can happen:


- be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow
  copy of the link into clipboard
- preconfigured to handle https
- fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue)

and low on the list:
- disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable (it
  makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image)

Kind Regards

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Re: [Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released

[Petr Vanek]

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:40:39 +0100
Patryk Benderz  (PB) wrote:

>Hello everybody,
>Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in


Hi,

could please people stop editing released updates? (meaning adding new
stuff, don't mean fixing links and typos). For example with the 14.
January Update [1] quite a bit of work has been done to make the
release, then we release and know what is in there. Now i can see that
two days after release some stuff was added.

I my case, i had missed those later added news as the release was
final. Plus, there is no source for the news, so in fact there is no
way to know. I presume i am not alone.

thank you
Petr

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Re: QtMoko v19

[Petr Vanek]

>- QX now suspends on call or when SMS arrives

Radek,

what is this good for?

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Re: [QtMoko] No GSM network after buying new battery

[Petr Vanek]

>If I reinstalled the QtMoko (v16d) and used the QtBackup utility to
>restore my settings and files, then I still had the same problem ("No
>network"). But now I did clean install without restoring from backup
>and now everything seems to work. I rebooted once and still works.

afaik the gsm module is powered directly from two of the battery pins.
check if the battery is actually ok

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Re: elm_browser NEW release 15 Jan

[Petr Vanek]

>  Here's the new version. Changes :-
> * Rotation issue still exists - but behaves better 
> * Start Page works
> * Command line url is accepted (needs full http://yourpage.com)
>

hi,

some feedback here:

to access page reload i guess there is some issue with the menu so one
has to do the following taps:

menu->page->page->reload

other then then (in the scope of fixability, i.e. combo lists are not
working, but this is probably *libwebkit issue) it's working great.

finger scrolling is good, except one issue - if there is an image in the
way, it gets selected which slow the browser down a great deal. not sure
what to do about that...

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Re: Ventura and https

[Petr Vanek]

>  And can you tell me your version of ewebkit? Mine happens to be 
>libewebkit0 -
>1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4 Thanks
>-- 
>View this message in context:
>http://n2.nabble.com/Ventura-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4447871.html
>Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

libewebkit-webinspector
1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4
libewebkit0
1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4
libwebkit-1.0-2 1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4
libwebkit-1.0-bin   1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4

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Re: Ventura and https

[Petr Vanek]

>> >  Can some users confirm the version of webkit that works? I have
>> >v1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4 installed and I get an 'unable to
>> >create webview' error in eve.
>>
>> libwebkit-1.0-bin - 1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4
>>
>> works just fine for me:
>>
>> --start---
>> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser
>> restoring state
>> db ver 0
>> 3 SQL error: duplicate column name: full_screen
>> showing window
>> Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
>> Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
>> -running here---
>> -press close
>> browser: fccache.c:512: FcCacheFini: Assertion `fcCacheChains[i] ==
>> ((void *)0)' failed. Aborted
>> -ended here---
>>
>>
>> Petr
>>
>>
>>
>are you running x11 in 16bit mode?


sorry if this wasn't clear, i will repeat: "works just fine for me".
the messages you have seen are from a successful run,

cheers anyways
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Re: Ventura and https

[Petr Vanek]

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:11:25 -0800 (PST)
c_c  (C) wrote:

>
>Hi,
>  Can some users confirm the version of webkit that works? I have
>v1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4 installed and I get an 'unable to create
>webview' error in eve.

libwebkit-1.0-bin - 1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4

works just fine for me:

--start---
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser 
restoring state
db ver 0
3 SQL error: duplicate column name: full_screen
showing window
Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
-running here---
-press close
browser: fccache.c:512: FcCacheFini: Assertion `fcCacheChains[i] ==
((void *)0)' failed. Aborted
-ended here---


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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

> * zoom out added to menu
> * stop loading page added to menu
> * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now
> * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's
> weird
>though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way
> * ability to change user agent added (but not tested)

working very well. i would almost tend to say "no more features to keep
it fast"

A few bugs: 
Rotation issue has already been reported.
The show images doesn't work seems to me. 
Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
Commandline url not accepted yet.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

>> it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and
>> include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time 
>> 
>  Any suggestions? For the name and icon? 
>  There shouldn't be much diff between midori and this browser since
> both
>use webkit. Midori has a lot of functionality that this browser
>doesn't - like bookmarks.
>  OTOH, maybe this seems faster since it's lighter as of now.

it would be wise to keep it this way. midory takes over 20 seconds to
launch on freerunner. as someone pointed - you often need that long to
search for something.

>> command line? If there is no such function, could you add a
>> parameter for that?
>> 
>  There isn't any such function yet. I'll add this today.

:), need it too, to incorporate it into the system.

>  Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on
> the

keep it lite
toggle fullscreen
rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay
possibility to stop loading
toggle loading-displaying images 

fantastic job! ele-fant :)

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Re: QCurrency - simple currency calculator

[Petr Vanek]

>That looks like a great application. Now if only we could find a way
>to install lots of utilities without making the default application
>launcher impossible to use...

not so elegant but working very well: make launcher icons smaller

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Re: elm_browser initial release

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>  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

thank you, this was really needed. startup is fast, response too.

>Features
>
>* finger scrolling
>* double-click to zoom in
>* triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed)
>* layout optimised for max viewing space

this is great, the transparent widgets help to be able to view a lot

>  The code is available at elm-browser.googlecode.com

it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and
include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time

>Thanks and enjoy!

thank you!

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Re: elementary webkit browser

[Petr Vanek]

>  Here is the code (not yet on a repository) and the .bb file for those
>interested. Works on latest shr-u.
>
>http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4280656/browser.tar.bz2 browser.tar.bz2 
>http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4280656/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk


sorry i cannot help with the edje... the browser feels fast (as eve)
but finger scrolling is great! i already have a great usage for it!

two questions while you are still working on it: 

- would one be able to embed it also through python
bingings?

- could it have command line parameter for url?

thank you for your great work!

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Re: hands-free kit

[Petr Vanek]

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:06:44 +0300
Paul Fertser  (PF) wrote:

>Tom Yates  writes:
>> does anyone out there supply just the handsfree kit that comes with
>> the stock openmoko (two earpieces, integral mic with cut-off switch
>> and four-connector 2.5mm jack)?
>
>Beware, with wired headset mic you'll most probably get a serious buzz
>problem on any device, no matter if buzz-fixed or not.
>
>-- 
>Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html)
>software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com


i think he wants to use the handsfree kit for a DECT phone. i would
suggest to get a proper DECT wired h-f kit, the wires will be much
sturdier then the fr h-f.

btw. i don't use the wired kit much now but had not suffered any buzz
with it

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Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

[Petr Vanek]

>> It may be nice to organize a donation to provide such device to
>> FSO/OE/SHR staff.
>>
>
>
>Excellent idea.

+1

Wonderful.

How do we get this going? Seems like 600€ in Germany, dunno if with
contract or what... what service could we use?

Mickey, would this be an option for you? If we get enough people...

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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

[Petr Vanek]

>/end of arrogant rant about language usage.

this is getting too long for me :)

just download the relevant packages which this thread started about
and read license in there, it might help your understanding :))

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Re: New project openmokontrol

[Petr Vanek]

>You mean the mouse cursor? Tux racer can be controlled with mouse
>cursors? If you mean the Up/Down keys, they should be controllable,
>too. Make sure the usb port is upside, now you can bend it forwards,
>so the display is coming up. Now the Up Key should be pressed. Bend it
>backwards and the Back key should react.

yeah, it works great with tux racer. but i better head to bed
now, work tomorrow :)

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Re: New project openmokontrol

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>i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for
>speeding/slowing would be great too :)

it certainly does send up and down, now i can see, still need to
practice a bit more :)

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Re: New project openmokontrol

[Petr Vanek]

>I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP
>connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers,
>mainly for games ;). Maybe I will create a video for a short

great! thank you.

>http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/wiki/Using I didn't manage to
>install the ipk file on my SHR run freerunner, I always get the
>following error: *** glibc detected *** opkg: free(): invalid next
>size (normal): 0x00ba6500 *** Aborted I don't get the error when Im
>installing the package to my toolchain, so I think it is SHR's
>problem, not the problem of a corrupted ipk file, is that right? If
>not, Id appreciate hints how to get rid of this error. Greetings,
>Martin.

the ipk look a bit suspicious to me but extracting manually did the
job, all is running well on shr-u. i don't know lfs but tux racer
(extreme tux racer - etracer in debian) was great for testing. :)

i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for
speeding/slowing would be great too :)

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?

[Petr Vanek]

>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi#Using_wpa_supplicant_manually
>
>Okay thanks. I am thinking that it should be possible to put most of
>that procedure into a package, with a launcher icon to initiate the


i myself use iwconfig (the dbus methods just don't work for me...),
but it would not be too hard to bend this script [1] to use
wpa_suplicant

P.

[1] http://www.opkg.org/package_315.html


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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?

[Petr Vanek]

>> Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no
>> encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP).
>
>Can you post a quick howto here on how you do that?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi#Using_wpa_supplicant_manually

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Re: Navigation

[Petr Vanek]

hi,

>If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
>http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=116
>
>Currently not for usage, only as preview for Debian users.

downloaded the packages on my laptop:

van...@vanek:/tmp$ ./osm2mcmap
bash: ./osm2mcmap: cannot execute binary file

van...@vanek:/tmp$ strace ./osm2mcmap

execve("./osm2mcmap", ["./osm2mcmap"], [/* 38 vars */]) = -1 ENOEXEC
(Exec format error) dup(2)  = 3
fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x8002 (flags
O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE) fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620,
st_rdev=makedev(136, 3), ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096,
PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb803e000
_llseek(3, 0, 0xbfb4d7d0, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
write(3, "strace: exec: Exec format error\n", 32strace: exec: Exec
format error ) = 32 close(3)= 0
munmap(0xb803e000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(1)   = ?


i get the same with the mcnavi

i get mcnavi trying to run on latest shr-u, but as i cannot convert
the map, i get:

# ./mcnavi
Cannot open map

sources would help to get the converter running...

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

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>That can be bug then, I'll try to check it (I'm sure it doesn't happen
>when sending from opimd-utils)

hmm, all my test sms messages to myself eventually arrived during the
evening*. i haven't heard notify (but the phone was tucked in my
pocket), so most probably not a fr bug unless somewhere deep in
framework-calypso communication causing some delays in receiving. but
the GSM signal here is quite weak so who knows...

* hey, that storage is great, now only the sent view is missing :))

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

[Petr Vanek]

>> WTF? 

Not necessary here IMHO.

>>Sent sms storage is implemented for quite long time... They are
>> just displayed together with incoming ones, as there is no different
>> view for sent messages yet.
>>
>> And thanks for reminding us about 386, it probably should be closed
>> now :)

thanks for reopening the bug for the missing view. i am testing this
now and for some reason i can receive sms from other people, i can also
send sms and yes, can see them in the inbox (great, thank you) but when
sending sms to myself, never seem to receive (or perhaps just see?) the
message in inbox. this led me to the conclusion sent messages are not
saved because for a message from me to me i can see just one message
and not two. this is on shr-u, upgraded today.

>And that strange GPRS issue (which is even more strange to me, because
>I never had that on my FR :x) is going to be resolved soon with
>ogsmd->fsogsmd transition (which is also going to give us nice
>performance boost)

just because you never had it does not mean it doesn't exist. i know
about the ogsmd->fsogsmd transition and am eagerly waiting for it,
holding by breath and wishing Mickey will manage to have it done before
jumping to his other duties.

strangely enough, i didn't have the GPRS issue for some time before
Christmas, now it bites every time i use gprs.

> And >to not spread FUD :P)

looking at the tickets (reopened and existing), i am aware of being
constructively critical but not FUD spreading.

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

[Petr Vanek]

Hi Risto,

what would be your answers?

Here is a quick sum up of the answers. Including answers from shr-user
list as well:

responded 81

>Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes 55, No 26

>Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes 58, No 23

>What distribution you run most of the time?

(some gave more then 1 distro, max 2 were counted)

SHR 63
QTMoko 10
Debian 6
H:1 4
Gentoo 2
Android 2
om2008 2

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Re: [Community Updates] 2009-12-31 released.

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>> Hello everybody,
>> recent Community Update is out and ready!

>
>What about SHR? :P

what's new? :)

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

[Petr Vanek]

answering for two people here:


>Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
>Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes
>What distribution you run most of the time?
android, shr

---

>Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
no
>Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes
>What distribution you run most of the time?
shr


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Re: Hackable1 rev5 is out !

[Petr Vanek]

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:39:55 +1100
Philip Rhoades  (PR) wrote:

>Looks good but the WiFi doesn't connect for me and I can't do manual 
>network setups because there is no visual keyboard for the terminal?

kbd is under the aux button

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Re: shr-launcher new release for shr-u

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>  Here's the latest release of shr-launcher. 
>http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4185053/shr-launcher_local-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
>shr-launcher_local-r0.4_armv4t.ipk 

sounds great! installation OK, running OK, will crash test today :)

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SHR FSO data only connection

[Petr Vanek]

i have a clone sim - two sims with the same number (official, this is
o2 service in eu). the sim registered latest on the network takes all
the calls and messages.

often i use this in the way that fr get's online via gprs and my other
phone receives the calls.

now, with recent shr-u, if i start with one sim in fr i get into
troubles when my second sim get's registered. gprs cannot connect,
calls cannot be made with om2008, i could in fact make data (gprs)
connection only and all would be smooth. I could even run gprs on both
phones with no issue. i have a feeling i could do this on shr during
summer, but now it's not possible.

i had 1024 fix done in the fall.

easy sum up:

- can i use fso based distro to make gprs connection only and not to
  register for calls? (as for example umts dongles do?)

- is there a way to re-register on the network? (sometimes i can work
  this around via making a call or scanning for operators...)

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Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)

[Petr Vanek]

>I developed a USB gamepad addon for Openmoko phones. It is tiny and
>thin. The electronical part is based on Raphaël Assénat's [1] "USB
>game controller with 12 inputs" [2] and uses the same firmware. Now
>Neo should beat Gizmondo and Tapwave Zodiac :D

great, looks like some valuable buttons available (switch apps, dial...)

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

[Petr Vanek]

>> FWIW, as well as the discussed rotation support, I'd also like to
>> - add a GPRS/PDP toggle to the GSM gadget
>> - add a fast charge menu to the battery gadget
>> - fix the battery gadget so that it it goes up to 100%.

This sounds great and needed. Communication with SHR devs might be
useful to get it to SHR soon.


>> So I think there's a strong case for an ongoing FR-focussed
>> e17/illume codebase.
>
>There's an illume2 project at enlightenment, perhaps a good spot for
>it?

At this point, i would not focus on it, plus, i would expect that the
gadgets should still work correctly in Illume2?

just my 2c

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Re: Received SMS going unnoticed

[Petr Vanek]

>But are the accelerometers enabled when FR is in sleep mode ? Because
>if you have to wake up the FR to enable them then it's faster to read
>your phone screen :P

you can set a threshold on the accels to generate interrupt to wake the
phone, upon waking, it could check if there was a missed call or a
message, if yes, then vibrate...

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[hw] bluetooth not working (gta02)

[Petr Vanek]

seems like my bt stopped working. no matter the distro,
fso running or not, even turning it on manually i get no device shown.

echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on
echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ hcitool dev
Devices:

full log: http://pastebin.com/m38865e3b

partial dmesg bellow.

i opened up the case but nothing strange to be seen. i haven't opened
the tin can bellow the bt module... the flat wire seems ok.

any idea?

Petr


[21474583.40] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): usb0: link is not ready
[21474584.34] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.Maybe the USB cable
is bad? 
[21474587.635000] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.Maybe the
USB cable is bad? 
[21474590.945000] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port
1.Maybe the USB cable is bad? 
[21474590.945000] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[21474593.28] eth0: no IPv6 routers present 
[21474605.81] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[21474605.81] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[21474606.955000] Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.6 
[21474606.955000] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized 
[21474608.39] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.Maybe the USB cable
is bad? 
[21474611.41] gta02_udc_command S3C2410_UDC_P_ENABLE
[21474611.675000] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.Maybe the USB cable
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Re: org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:15:03 +0100
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  (M'L) wrote:

>Am Mittwoch, den 11.11.2009, 09:54 +0100 schrieb Petr Vanek:
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:10:54 +0200
>> "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"  (M'L) wrote:
>> 
>> >is now working in the first version. Here's an example output of
>> >mdbus
>> 
>> hi, any plans to have fso based accelerator threshold settings for
>> waking up from suspend?
>
>Yes, definitely. Please open a bug to remind me of it :)
>
>:M:


Heya, this is great. will do. Has anyone tried it? The maximum 8g might
be still a bit too sensitive while normal bumping occures, but perhaps
it is OK?

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Re: org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation

[Petr Vanek]

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:10:54 +0200
"Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"  (M'L) wrote:

>is now working in the first version. Here's an example output of mdbus

hi, any plans to have fso based accelerator threshold settings for
waking up from suspend?

cheers

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

[Petr Vanek]

>> oh yes, agree, but this is complicated and has nothing to do with
>> simple screen rotation per application/user needs which i thought
>> this thread was about?
>
>Nothing much, really, which is why it was a mere comment between
>parenthesis, you asked, I replied :)

:)

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

[Petr Vanek]

>Look for accelges (for an example).
>
>You need a lot more finegrained readings (several per second) in order
>to understand adequately a gesture (example, shaking the freerunner,
>doing an L in the air, etc...)

oh yes, agree, but this is complicated and has nothing to do with simple
screen rotation per application/user needs which i thought this thread
was about?

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

[Petr Vanek]

>> so how does framework fit to this with it's orientation interface?
>
>As far as I know, FSO will only emit some signals from time to time
>saying what position it thinks it's on. Other programs can plug into
>it and decide what to do (but of course that isn't at a rate useful
>for gestures).

i am testing that interface now and it reports position in less then 2
seconds (which i consider very optimal for regular usage). what kind
of gestures do you mean or what do you mean by gestures? 

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

[Petr Vanek]

>> The software that control rotation need to know if the foreground app
>> should run in landscape, portrait or auto mode. (And perhaps the 
>> upside-down variants as well.)
>
>Or, what I think would be the proper way to do it, the application
>should broadcast to dbus that it prefers no rotation, or one of the 4
>possible rotation states and omnewrotate could listen to such requests
>and not rotate while there is such a message in the bus.

so how does framework fit to this with it's orientation interface?

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Re: [Shr-User] What's going on in SHR land

[Petr Vanek]

>good to hear my openmoko is not in danger of stagnating! what really
>interests me here is themes, being a visual person the code part is
>interesting in a getting my hands dirty aspect. but the visual aspects
>of the phone need some work.
>
>is there a link to the contest page?

http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/ThemeContest

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Re: Launcher v0.41 - New Release

[Petr Vanek]

>> it feels very responding, after all data is loaded. (most delays seem
>> to be caused by waiting for the opimd data).
>> 
>  Actually, the contacts are synced the first time only. The SMS's are
>typically not that many, but for opimd to go through all the calls,
>parse them and send them through the dbus really takes long. Since
>launcher doesn't know if you received calls when it wasn't running, it
>uses the time of the last call it has in its local db to query for
>newer calls from opim. Hence the delay. Typically, about 10 - 12 secs.
>Keeping a smaller log will speed up launcher. 
>  I've been thinking of deleting all the calls older than those
> launcher
>displays - or some x days automatically. What do you think?

if the number of days is configurable (possible to set to "unlimited"),
this would be very good.

>> 1) in contacts, all the categories are listed twice (all empty), this
>> was also the same in .39. 
>> 
>  That must be something I'm doing wrong in the db creation. While I
> solve
>that issue, you could remove those duplicates (and change them to
>something more appropriate to yourself) manually by changing the
>category names in the contacts_cat table.
>
>- sqlite .launcher/launcher.db
>- delete from contacts_cat; (or delete from contacts_cat where
>category='Family';)
>- delete from contacts_cat where key = 1;
>- insert into contacts cat (category) values ('your_new_cat');
>
>  I will finish work on the customisation of categories in some time.
>
>If you have deleted the old launcher db - you've lost the
>categorisation of the apps and the contacts. Maybe I need to shift
>this to another db - so that the working db can be deleted but this
>data remains.
>
>To set categories for the contacts click on set cat. You'll see a list
>of your contacts. Select a category, select the contacts you want in
>that category and click 'Set Category' button. The selected contacts
>will be removed from this list and appear under their category.

ok

>> 2) opimd fields should probably be configurable
>> somewhat, now it doesn't show all my fields... or did i miss
>> something?
>> 
>  That's missing. I'm working on it - should be done soon. Thanks for
> all
>the feedback. Did you like the the fact that your contacts now show
>when you contacted them last?

couldn't enjoy this one yet, from home i have to call from a gsm gate,
there is no signal inside my house... but will test this afternoon or
on the weekend,

thanks for all the great work and time! :)
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Re: Launcher v0.41 - New Release

[Petr Vanek]

>  Here is the latest release. Changes :-
>
>1. Clean Ups, Bug fixes and Speed ups (hopefully)
>2. Should indicate last call made and sms sent in contacts app
>3. Better re-sending of failed sms's
>
>Enjoy.
>
>http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3911066/launcher_0.41_arm.ipk
>launcher_0.41_arm.ipk 

good, good!

first start was somewhat slow, so i erased the .launcher db to start
fresh, although now i think it was framework still starting...

now it starts damn fast!

it feels very responding, after all data is loaded. (most delays seem
to be caused by waiting for the opimd data).

two minor issues:

1) in contacts, all the categories are listed twice (all empty), this
was also the same in .39. 

2) opimd fields should probably be configurable
somewhat, now it doesn't show all my fields... or did i miss something?


phonelog now allows functional call deletion, great! (after launcher
restart, i can see some calls from 1.1.1970 again but i think the
opimd db got borked, i will erase it and start fresh).

thank you,

kind regards
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Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

[Petr Vanek]

CH(R> > btw can you already change the background image in Illume
settings? i CH(R> > still get the "Enlightenment was unable to import
the image due to CH(R> > conversion errors" ?
CH(R> 
CH(R> u are probably missing edje_cc from the distro

thanks, this was it. i have already reported it distro maintainers.

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Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

[Petr Vanek]

>> @Bernd Prünster: you are already very good with this, it would be
>> good to see the difference, if not used already... mind to try the
>> above in gry* ?
>>   
>gry* doesnt use dropshadow, it was one of the forst thigs i kicked
>out, gry* uses a white outline on black text.
>but thats something thats bugging me. i have to make some tests...

i have been trying gry* lately and more less like it.

btw can you already change the background image in Illume settings? i
still get the "Enlightenment was unable to import the image due to
conversion errors" ?

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Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

[Petr Vanek]

> lots of alpha blending - if you have the 16bit engine you get no
> scale cache (thats 32bit engine only). but worst.. is the font
> style. check carefully. text has a soft dropshadow. that is drawn
> by 1. drawing the shadow first and that draw 25 copies of the text
> with very faint alpha. THEN draw the text on top. that is a pretty
> big expense. there is no text effect cache in evas at the moment,
> so this really hits you. turn off the soft dropshadow effect in the
> theme.. and watch it get 3 or 4 times faster (expedite has a test
> just for this
> - on a desktop (in fps) i get 128 and 489 fps respectively just by
> having no soft shadow on the text). thats pushing on close to 4
> times faster. it's an effect - that doesn't come cheaply. the
> alternative (an actual blur filter) isn't too cheap either. but
> it's something that can be improved for sure. you want it fast?
> turn it off. :)


Thank you for all the explanation. I think the 32bit engine is the
only to go with now. Perhaps the optimization is is already done,
maybe not.

@Bernd Prünster: you are already very good with this, it would be good
to see the difference, if not used already... mind to try the above in
gry* ?

> i started a
> rewrite- illume2 is in svn. its much cleaner and leaner designed to
> allow for replacable home screens (ie a home window provides by
> either another e module or another process). as well as "top
> shelf" (inf act any corner/region of the screen) can also be a
> window provided by.. another module... or another process etc. its
> much more like the kbd code. it's started. it's not usable. it's on
> the backburner until a bunch of other tasks are done that are much
> higher priority.

ok, will hope for better times to come

> > developed? What do you use on small device? Illume was ditched
> > long time ago, is there not a replacement with attention?
> > Anything you could recommend?  
> can't talk about it :)

perhaps we can benefit from it in (near?) future... :)

thank you

Petr



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