Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-10-04 Thread Arnaud AMELINA
Would you please announce these new criteria of "useful skills" for prospective candidates and community to know? I suspect you must have some that you are using to find the suitable female candidates from each of the six afrinic regions. How are you convincing people to nominate if they don't

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-10-03 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 3 Oct 2016, at 22:48, Arnaud AMELINA wrote: > > Hi CEO, nomcom chair, > > We are reading the GC call for nominations and see a procedure for elections. > There is however no requirements, criteria or experience stated which is > surprising as this is to do with a

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-10-03 Thread Ben Roberts
<community-discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> Cc: "members-disc...@afrinic.net<mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net>" <members-disc...@afrinic.net<mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-disc

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment- bylaws changes

2016-10-03 Thread L.A. Ym
+1 Agree with Boubakar Lala From: Boubakar Barry Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 12:44 AM To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Cc: members-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment- bylaws changes On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:05 PM,

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 16:27, Arnaud AMELINA wrote: > > Hi Mr. Alan > > IHO , While you may not see a problem others might; and it may be wiser to > ensure inclusion for transparency and accountability. Having 6 members of GC > to guarantee regional participation is a good

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Arnaud AMELINA
Hi Mr. Alan IHO , While you may not see a problem others might; and it may be wiser to ensure inclusion for transparency and accountability. Having 6 members of GC to guarantee regional participation is a good governance practice. Regards Arnaud Le 22 sept. 2016 08:52, "Alan Barrett"

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Noah
On 22 Sep 2016 11:55, "Alan Barrett" wrote: > > > > On 22 Sep 2016, at 12:07, Benjamin Eshun wrote: > > > > Dear Alan, > > > > I have a question, will the GC be added to the bye-laws. > > There is no need to add the Governance Committee to the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 12:07, Benjamin Eshun wrote: > > Dear Alan, > > I have a question, will the GC be added to the bye-laws. There is no need to add the Governance Committee to the bylaws. It is a committee created by the Board in terms of the Board’s general powers,

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-21 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 21 Sep 2016, at 12:26, Omo Oaiya wrote: >> >>> - claims of off-list inputs >> >> Maybe some community members would like to submit input through means >> other than the mailing list. Should they be allowed to do so? >> I think Yes. >> Would you prefer to not

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-21 Thread Omo Oaiya
> On 21 Sep 2016, at 11:13, Frank Habicht wrote: > > Hi, > > On 9/21/2016 10:47 AM, Omo Oaiya wrote: >> This is what I see - >> >> - CEO alone ... > > I am sure that a committee would be a way to ensure that nothing gets > ready for voting in the next meeting. > If that's

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-21 Thread Saul Stein
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Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-21 Thread ALAIN AINA
gt;> > Date: Monday, 19 September 2016 at 22:14 > To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net > <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> > Cc: "members-disc...@afrinic.net <mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net>" > <members-d

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-21 Thread Omo Oaiya
men” – Anthony Trollope. >> >> (Btw, the second of those quotes – it may be true that people want the >> show of things – and if that is what this committee will be – a charade – >> so be it – but let’s not lose site of the fact that bylaw changes have to >> be

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-21 Thread Seun Ojedeji
m> > Reply-To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> > Date: Monday, 19 September 2016 at 22:14 > To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> > Cc: "members-disc...@afrinic.net" <members-disc...@afrinic.net>

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-20 Thread ALAIN AINA
id a bylaws review in 2012 and the approach did work smoothly Hope this helps —Alain > > Andrew > > > > From: Arnaud AMELINA <ameln...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> > Date: Monday, 19 September 201

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-19 Thread Andrew Alston
FRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Date: Monday, 19 September 2016 at 22:14 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Cc: "members-disc...@afrinic.net" <members-disc...@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountab

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-19 Thread Arnaud AMELINA
+1 @Alain Regards Arnaud 2016-09-19 19:56 GMT+00:00 ALAIN AINA : > Hi, > > Let’s fix the process and better organise this critical review of the > bylawsl. I do support the idea of a committee . > > —Alain > > > On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bope Domilongo Christian < >

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-19 Thread ALAIN AINA
Hi, Let’s fix the process and better organise this critical review of the bylawsl. I do support the idea of a committee . —Alain > On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bope Domilongo Christian > wrote: > > Dear CEO, > > [speaking as a member of the community] > >

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-17 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 10:06, Christian Bope wrote: > What about my first question on > How the decisions was made for the “No consensus” / “no objections? I answered that already. I assessed the opinion of the community by reading or listening to discussion on

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Christian Bope
On 17 Sep 2016 12:58 a.m., "Jackson Muthili" wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Bope Domilongo Christian > wrote: > > Dear CEO, > > > > Thank you for sharing the Bylaws change working document with the > > community. > > > > After

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Jackson Muthili
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Bope Domilongo Christian wrote: > Dear CEO, > > Thank you for sharing the Bylaws change working document with the > community. > > After reading the document, I have two quick question before going to the > substance of the changes. > 1.

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Mark Elkins
I've taken a look at the suggested outcome (The proposed amendments) and generally I believe the suggested amendments to be very acceptable. Thank you for taking the time and doing this Alan. My only disappointment is the outcome regarding the non-voting status of Associate Members, whom I

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-07-07 Thread Badru Ntege
Thank you Noah Speaking as a community and resource member. We need some of our elected members to be cautious on how they translate the role and responsibilities of the board. The company belongs to the community at large under the custody of current members who then elect a board. It

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-07-06 Thread Noah
On 30 Jun 2016 11:51, "Andrew Alston" wrote: > > See comments inline (once again, speaking here as a resource member) > Comments in line and speaking as a community member/netizen/internet end user, who cares for the organization vested with the mandate of

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-07-06 Thread Mike Silber
Alain > On 6 Jul 2016, at 14:50, ALAIN AINA wrote: > > >> , I have a major problem with consultation outside of the member base and >> including the wider community in what is a commercial discussion between the >> company and the members. > > Community = “members" +

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-07-06 Thread ALAIN AINA
> On Jun 30, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > See comments inline (once again, speaking here as a resource member) > > 1- Amend 4.2 to add membership consultation and community notification for at > least 6 months before applying adopted new

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-07-05 Thread Arnaud AMELINA
2016-06-29 12:04 GMT+00:00 ALAIN AINA : > > Hello, > > Other points we may want to consider. See below: > > 1- Amend 4.2 to add membership consultation and community notification for > at least 6 months before applying adopted new fees schedule. > > "Fees review must be done

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-07-04 Thread Badru Ntege
Omo Thank you for this I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel. Looking forward to wider discussion on this proposal. +1 +1 +1 Regards On 6/28/16, 4:20 PM, "Omo Oaiya" wrote: On 10 June 2016 at 11:18, Alan Barrett wrote:

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-07-03 Thread sergekbk
mmunity-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment On 10 June 2016 at 11:18, Alan Barrett <alan.barr...@afrinic.net> wrote: Arising from a review of AFRINIC’s Bylaws and other documents, several potential areas for improvement were

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-30 Thread Boubakar Barry
I think these amendments are reasonable and would contribute to the improvement of AfriNIC's governance. I support them. Boubakar On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:04 PM, ALAIN AINA wrote: > > Hello, > > Other points we may want to consider. See below: > > 1- Amend 4.2 to add

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-30 Thread Noah
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:04 PM, ALAIN AINA wrote: > > Hello, > > Hi Alain, > Other points we may want to consider. See below: > > 1- Amend 4.2 to add membership consultation and community notification for > at least 6 months before applying adopted new fees schedule. > >

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-29 Thread Andrew Alston
com> Reply-To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Date: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 at 5:43 PM To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment Andrew I think what A

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-29 Thread Badru Ntege
of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> Date: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 at 3:11 PM To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-disc

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-29 Thread Andrew Alston
AINA <aal...@trstech.net> Reply-To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Date: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 at 3:11 PM To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability asses

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-29 Thread ALAIN AINA
Can we stay discussion and consensus oriented here instead of “…. I would vote against” ? Thanks —Alain > On Jun 28, 2016, at 11:56 PM, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Comments below > > Please note – I am posting here purely in my capacity as a resource

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-29 Thread ALAIN AINA
Hello, Other points we may want to consider. See below: 1- Amend 4.2 to add membership consultation and community notification for at least 6 months before applying adopted new fees schedule. "Fees review must be done in consultation with the members and community must be notified at least

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-28 Thread abel ELITCHA
I can't agree more with you Omo. This... >>>12- Policies introduced by the Board: In terms of the Bylaws section > 11.4, the Board may adopt policy changes that did not go through the normal > PDP. Consider giving the community the right to reject such policy changes > introduced by the Board.