Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup will be held tomorrow

Hi, After final 5 round, VisionGo won. 1st VisionGo 5-0 2nd RankaGo 3-2 3rd KataGo3-2 4th DaPangGo 3-2 5th ChaoRanGo 1-5 6th Kohada0-6 Ran Kat Vis Cha Koh Dap Wins Rank RankaGo1 0 1 1 0 32 KataGo 0 0 1 1 1 33 VisionGo 1

[Computer-go] UEC Cup will be held tomorrow

Hi, 12th UEC Cup will be held tomorrow. First day, there are 7 swiss round for preliminary. Second day, Top 6 programs will play final 5 rounds. From 7th to 12th will play 5 rounds in another league. UEC Cup http://entcog.c.ooco.jp/entcog/new_uec/en/ Game live on youtube

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

[mc];W[qa] ;B[sa];W[md];B[qg];W[le];B[qf];W[ri];B[ld];W[cf];B[bf];W[le] ;B[sh];W[si];B[ld];W[he];B[ie];W[le]) - Original Message - From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Co

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

>exciting times... > >Cheers, Ingo. > > >> Gesendet: Samstag, 18. März 2017 um 16:27 Uhr >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >> Betreff: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result >> >> Today,

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

tions over questions ... >exciting times... > >Cheers, Ingo. > > >> Gesendet: Samstag, 18. März 2017 um 16:27 Uhr >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >> Betreff: [Computer-go] UE

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

Hello, in Germany's computer go forum, Tom (alias Bonobo) has posted two Youtube links for games of the current UEC Cup: FineArt vs. DeepZenGo: https://youtu.be/4uVaAVRhJxg CrazyStone vs. FineArt: https://youtu.be/DwwseY2R_Oc Cheers, Ingo. ___

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

uestions over questions ... >exciting times... > >Cheers, Ingo. > > >> Gesendet: Samstag, 18. März 2017 um 16:27 Uhr >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >> Betreff: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1s

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

Hi Darren, thank you for the info. So, is "Fine Art" the long-awaited Chinese dark rider which had been announced already for the end of 2016? Regards, Ingo. > Gesendet: Samstag, 18. März 2017 um 20:02 Uhr > Von: "Darren Cook" > > > Can you say something more on "Fine

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

> Can you say something more on "Fine Art"? > From which country is it? Who is Tencent? Tencent is a very big Chinese Internet company; it is described here as the largest gaming company in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent Darren ___

[Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

Today, 30 participanst played, and 1st Fine Art 7-0 2nd Zen6-1 lost aaginst FineArt 3rd CrazyStone 6-1 4th Rayn 5th Aya5-2 6th AQ 7th CGI 8th Julie 9th DolBaram Top 16 program will play tommorow tournament. Remi's post is useful.

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup broadcast info

-go@computer-go.org> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup broadcast info Individual games can be watched by logging-in the NNGS server using some NNGS client program such as Jago. See official page http://www.computer-go.jp/uec/public_html/eng/netwo

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup broadcast info

Individual games can be watched by logging-in the NNGS server using some NNGS client program such as Jago. See official page http://www.computer-go.jp/uec/public_html/eng/network.shtml for the name of the server, which is global this year. NB: Please leave enough bandwidth for the entrants.

[Computer-go] UEC Cup broadcast info

Dear all, The 10th UEC will be held on this weekend. The final will be live broadcast on the internet by Go-remium (in Japanese; free but registration required). The live will start 3/19 2:30 PM JST (GMT/UTC+9). #I don't remember the procedure to register, sorry.

[Computer-go] UEC Cup will be held in 18-19 March 2017

Hi, UEC Cup will be held in 18-19 March 2017. The UEC Cup : 18-19 March 2017 Registration deadline : 11 December 2016 DenSei-Sen: late March or April This is the last UEC Cup and DenSei-sen. The Tenth UEC Cup Computer Go

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

I have used TensorFlow to train a CNN that predicts the next move, with a similar architecture to what others have used (1 layers of 5x5 convolutions followed by 10 more layers of 3x3 convolutions, with 192 hidden units per layer and ReLU activation functions) but with much simpler inputs. I found

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

Thanks for the very interesting replies, David, and Remi. No-one is using TensorFlow, then? Any reason not to? (I'm just curious because there looks to be a good Udacity DNN course (https://www.udacity.com/course/deep-learning--ud730), which I was considering, but it is using TensorFlow.) Remi

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

teresting. I'll let him share it if he wants to. David > -Original Message- > From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of > Darren Cook > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:19 AM > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: *****SPAM*

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

David Fotland wrote: > There are 12 programs here that have deep neural nets. 2 were not > qualified for the second day, and six of them made the final 8. Many > Faces has very basic DNN support, but it’s turned off because it > isn’t making the program stronger yet. Only Dolburam and Many

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

), the second game (vs Zen) will be played with 2 > stones. #Not announced yet. > > Hideki > > >Thanks in advance, Ingo. > > > > > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr > >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> &

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day (Hiroshi Yamashita)

0 From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day Message-ID: <CF955C9B684D47D18E6A8DBBC86891FE@x60> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";     reply-type=response Zen w

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

econd game (vs Zen) will be played with 2 stones. #Not announced yet. Hideki >Thanks in advance, Ingo. > > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr >> Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >> Betreff

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

Attached is my _personal_ copy of the final game. All official game records will be available soon, though. #After move 295, the operator resigned. #Official results of the second day: http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/result2.html Hideki Pawe Morawiecki:

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he top games. > > > > *From:* Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] *On > Behalf Of *Pawel Morawiecki > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:57 AM > *To:* computer-go@computer-go.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > > > Hi,

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

I have sgf’s of the Many Faces’ games, but I finished 8th. I don’t have the top games. From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Pawel Morawiecki Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:57 AM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > darkforest won against CGI. > CrazyStone won against DolBalam. > Zen won against Ray. > Aya won against MFG. > > Semi final is > CrazyStone vs Zen > darkf

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

mputer-go@computer-go.org> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > > > Hi Hiroshi, >> >> thanks for the many updates. >> >> On another site I read that the bits on rank 1 and 2 will >> play exhibition ma

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

20. März 2016 um 07:41 Uhr > Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> > An: computer-go@computer-go.org > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day > > Zen won against darkforest > > 1st Zen > 2nd darkforest > 3

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

Zen won against darkforest 1st Zen 2nd darkforest 3rd CrazyStone 4th Aya Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

Zen won against CrazyStone. darkforest won against Aya. Final is Zen - darkforest Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 12:34 PM Subject: [Comput

[Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

darkforest won against CGI. CrazyStone won against DolBalam. Zen won against Ray. Aya won against MFG. Semi final is CrazyStone vs Zen darkforest vs Aya Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

Today's tournament table is https://twitter.com/math26/status/711190391098187776 (Thanks Shinoda-san). Holmes got Originality award. Holmes does both Policy Network and playout on 8 GPUs. Playouts are done by 256 mini-batches. 256 playouts are executed simultaneously. Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

We are updating our page: http://aigames.nctu.edu.tw/~icwu/CGI.html. The current version in UEC is CGI 2.0 (or DeepCGI) as described in this page (also including the contributors). The main contribution for Amigo (nothing to do with nicego) is to design a general MCTS framework that many game

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

t;" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result Hello Hiroshi, thanks for the information. WHo are the peolbe behind CGI Go? Which hardware is used by the top participants in UEC

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

On 19 March 2016 at 14:40, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote: > Hello Hiroshi, > > thanks for the information. > > WHo are the peolbe behind CGI Go? > > According to http://computer-go.info/db/oprog.php?a=CGI : Written by: Wu, I-Chen & Wu, Ti-Rong & Chen, Guan-Wen & Shih, Chung-Chin &

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> > > An: computer-go@computer-go.org > > Betreff: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result > > > > There are 32 participants, include one guest GNU GO. > > After 7 swiss round, > > > > 1st CGI7-0 > > 2nd CrazyStone 6-

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

.org > Betreff: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result > > There are 32 participants, include one guest GNU GO. > After 7 swiss round, > > 1st CGI7-0 > 2nd CrazyStone 6-1 > 3rd Zen6-1 > 4th Aya6-1 > 5th Gonanza5-2 > 6th Ray5-2 >

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/result1.html On 19 mars 2016, at 23:10, James Guo <jin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Show the official web site link? > From: Hiroshi Yamashita <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 9:32 PM >

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

Show the official web site link? From: Hiroshi Yamashita <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> To: computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result There are 32 participants, include one guest GNU GO. After 7 swiss round, 1

[Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

There are 32 participants, include one guest GNU GO. After 7 swiss round, 1st CGI7-0 2nd CrazyStone 6-1 3rd Zen6-1 4th Aya6-1 5th Gonanza5-2 6th Ray5-2 7th DolBaram 5-2 8th darkforest 5-2 CrazyStone lost against Zen. Zen lost against CGI. DolBaram lost

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Computer Go progress has stopped? http://www.sankei.com/life/news/150323/lif1503230014-n1.html Cho Chikun plays computer with handicaps game. http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO84490320X10C15A300/ Cho Chikun, a win, a lose against computer.

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Hi, Some Japanese newspaper wrote articles about densei-sen. Computer Go progress has stopped? http://www.sankei.com/life/news/150323/lif1503230014-n1.html Cho Chikun plays computer with handicaps game. http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO84490320X10C15A300/ Cho Chikun, a win, a lose

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 07:00:02AM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 06:37:14PM +0900, Rémi Coulom wrote: Tomorrow, the handicap will be 4 stones for DolBaram, and 3 stones for Crazy Stone. DolBaram won the 4-handicap game against Cho Chikun 9p! ..but unfortunately,

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 06:37:14PM +0900, Rémi Coulom wrote: Tomorrow, the handicap will be 4 stones for DolBaram, and 3 stones for Crazy Stone. DolBaram won the 4-handicap game against Cho Chikun 9p! Petr Baudis ___

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Hi! On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:47:43AM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote: A few blurry photos I took: http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556768169/UEC-Cup-2015-exhibition-game-was-between http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556769031/The-prize-winners-Right-of-Remi-is

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Hi Hideki, 2015-03-16 11:34 GMT+00:00 Hideki Kato hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp: #So far, Zen often lost territory and built thickness in early stages and revesed in hte middle. However, rivals are quickly getting stronger while top two are almost standing :-( these a few years, it's also getting

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Lukasz, They are not newcomers. See KGS Annual championship ranking, for example. Nomitan and DolBaram have KGS rank 3d and 5d, resp. in blitz games. #DolBaram registered last UEC Cup but didn't come to the venue :D The reason Zen lost against Nomitan was, as far as I've studied, just a

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Here is a partial game record I saved during the game. I am sorry I did not save the full game as sgf. It is on the nngs server of the UEC, so I might be able to get it tomorrow. Crazy Stone invaded too deeply, and died. Tomorrow, the handicap will be 4 stones for DolBaram, and 3 stones for

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

As for the game records in the UEC Cup, we are checking them manually because there are some garbage in the SGF files saved by the NNGS server. It will take several days to clear them all to publish on our Web page. Sorry. By the way, as a side information, Sakakibara kun is a 7d in Tygem. Best

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Here is a partial game record I saved during the game. I am sorry I did not save the full game as sgf. It is on the nngs server of the UEC, so I might be able to get it tomorrow. Crazy Stone invaded too deeply, and died. Thank you Rémi! That was a very surprising game. I would have sworn

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 03:06:52PM +0900, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: CrazyStone won. 1. CrazyStone 2. DolBaram 3. Aya 4. Nomitan 5. Zen 6. Go Trend Go Trend is a new Taiwan's program. Go Trend team has 7 people and they all visit here. A few blurry photos I took:

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

A few blurry photos I took: http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556768169/UEC-Cup-2015-exhibition-game-was-between http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556769031/The-prize-winners-Right-of-Remi-is http://pasky-jp.soup.io/post/556769152/All-qualified-participants Thank you Petr, So

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Thank you for the frequent updates and the pictures. I am most curious to learn why it is that Zen, who usually ends up very high in these competitions, has been defeated by two newcomers in the field. What are Dolbaram and Nomitam doing differently?... Cheers Lukas On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:58

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

2015-03-16 17:47 GMT+09:00 Petr Baudis pa...@ucw.cz: I got the impression that O Meien is part of the GoTrend team. Is that correct? Does anyone know any details about GoTrend? (Is it a university or commercial project? Any interesting algorithms?) Yes, he is. In fact, O Meien sensei and

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

UEC student won a exhibition game against CrazyStone without handicap. Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

On 3/15/15 12:39 AM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: UEC student won a exhibition game against CrazyStone without handicap. Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup

Hi Hiroshi, thank you for keeping us informed! In particular nice to see that there is fresh computer go blood in Taiwan. Ingo. Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. März 2015 um 08:39 Uhr Von: Hiroshi Yamashita y...@bd.mbn.or.jp An: computer-go@computer-go.org Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] UEC Cup UEC

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup about to start

Internet broadcasting on Niconico: http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv211968911 (UEC Cup) http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv212072907 (Densei-sen) #You have to be a member (free) to watch. Hideki Martin Mueller: 41c2be7d-4800-4e7f-9145-f82c7abb5...@ualberta.ca: The 8th UEC Cup will start in a few

[Computer-go] UEC cup about to start

The 8th UEC Cup will start in a few hours. The top two programs get to play Cho Chikun on the 17th of March in Densei-sen. http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/ http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/ http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/participant.html http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/participant.html

[Computer-go] UEC Cup

Hi We are now preparing for the first round. I'll post photos on Google+ when I have time: https://plus.google.com/+R%C3%A9miCoulomIsNotCrazy Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

[computer-go] UEC Cup 2009

. The Third Computer Go UEC Cup http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/index.html Hiroshi Yamashita ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

Thank you for your suggestion David. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, David Fotland fotl...@smart-games.com wrote: One option is to reduce the time limit from 40 minutes to 30 minutes to add another round. You can seed a swiss competition so it is likely that the best programs will meet in

Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

Shunsuke SOEDA: 7ca74f090812180133w3fbf7820g7dac320fded34...@mail.gmail.com: Thank you for your suggestion David. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, David Fotland fotl...@smart-games.com wrote: One option is to reduce the time limit from 40 minutes to 30 minutes to add another round. You can

RE: [computer-go] UEC cup

Michael: Let's say that active Pros should have 2800+, though players with 2750+ might still be professional strength. I think by that definition there would be many players with a professional rank who wouldn't have professional

RE: [computer-go] UEC cup

Of course it would be nice to have a standardized ELO based system so that you can compare ratings directly. But this seems unlikely to happen on purpose. The way it could happen is if some organization becomes the defacto standard due to popularity - but I don't think that has happened even

Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

Although Tei and Aoba Professionals explained the match at the front stage with a projection, the game was so complicated that I couldn't see which is winning until near the end. Another semi-final match, my Fudo Go vs Katsunari, also was shown on the screen but in a small picture at upper right

Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

David Fotland wrote: Congratulations to Remi for Crazystone's second UEC cup victory, and solid win over a professional. David Thank you David. For some reason, games between Crazy Stone and MFG are always complicated and exciting. I watched a few when we were playing on CGOS, and they

RE: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

Subject: Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup) David Fotland wrote: Congratulations to Remi for Crazystone's second UEC cup victory, and solid win over a professional. David Thank you David. For some reason, games between Crazy Stone and MFG are always complicated

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

Nick Wedd wrote: So what _is_ reality nowadays? Your previous email did not make this clear. Are Japanese pro grades now closer together than a third of a stone, or farther apart? The reality is that the correlation between ranks and playing strengths is very low, and that knowing that

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

In message 49494ba4.7070...@mgoetze.net, Michael Goetze mgoe...@mgoetze.net writes Darren Cook wrote: Are we talking about different things? All I meant to say was that I thought in Japanese professional ranks that one rank is worth a third of a handicap stone. So when there are 6 ranks

RE: [computer-go] UEC cup

with that. Van: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org namens Michael Goetze Verzonden: wo 17-12-2008 20:26 Aan: computer-go Onderwerp: Re: [computer-go] UEC cup Nick Wedd wrote: So what _is_ reality nowadays? Your previous email did not make this clear. Are Japanese pro

RE: [computer-go] UEC cup

Aan: computer-go Onderwerp: Re: [computer-go] UEC cup No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the time. Roughly. I don't agree. Japanese Professinals' ranks never decrease. Hi, Are we talking

RE: [computer-go] UEC cup

...@planet.nl Verzonden: wo 17-12-2008 20:48 Aan: computer-go Onderwerp: RE: [computer-go] UEC cup I think a 7 stone handicap against a 4p would be normal for an EGF 1d, not for a japanese 1d. A japanese 1d is about 3k EGF. He would require more than 9 stones. Dave

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

dave.de...@planet.nl wrote: What you are saying is that many professionals are overrated or underrated (sometimes by as much as two stones). No, what I'm saying is that professional ranking systems are not meant to be rating systems and should not be treated as if they were rating systems.

Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

I put some photos. http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008/uec2008.html Kato's eight PlayStation 3 was impressive. http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008/1213/Htmls/PICT2802.html Hiroshi Yamashita ___ computer-go mailing list

Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

jonas.k...@math.u-psud.fr wrote: Although Tei and Aoba Professionals explained the match at the front stage with a projection, the game was so complicated that I couldn't see which is winning until near the end. Another semi-final match, my Fudo Go vs Katsunari, also was shown on the screen but

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

Hi Mark, I'm not claiming to be an authority on the matter, but I beg to differ. Name me an EGF 7-dan that's not professional level. And then explain how come they are listed among players that are anywhere from 1p to 5p in different Asian countries. I used to be an EGF 6-dan and have beaten

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

Mark Boon wrote: All the examples given to support the argument either way are at best anecdotal. But looking at the EGF ranking list, the 7-dan players are interspersed with players of professional ranks, with very few 6 dans among them. That is based on a considerable amount of data. Maybe you

RE: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

-go- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Shunsuke SOEDA Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:39 PM To: computer-go Subject: Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup) Kato-san, David, I am a staff of the UEC Cup. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Hideki Kato hideki_ka

RE: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

To: computer-go Subject: Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup) I put some photos. http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008/uec2008.html Kato's eight PlayStation 3 was impressive. http://yssaya.web.fc2.com/photo/uec2008/1213/Htmls/PICT2802.html Hiroshi Yamashita

RE: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

, December 16, 2008 4:16 AM To: computer-go Subject: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup) Official results (only Japanese right now) are at: http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result.html (first day) http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result2.html (second day; final) 1. Crazy

Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

Official results (only Japanese right now) are at: http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result.html (first day) http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result2.html (second day; final) 1. Crazy Stone (invited, first seed) 2. Fudo Go 3. Many Faces of Go 4. Katsunari(second seed) 5. Aya

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

dave.de...@planet.nl wrote: Also, a 4p is not a 7p. The difference should be about one stone. 4p is equivalent to 8d EGF. I wish people would stop spreading such incorrect information. The correlation between professional ranks and playing strength is quite bad, and EGF 7dans are not,

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

If you find a Japanese 7p who can give a Korean 1p 2 stones and win, I will eat my hat... No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the time. Roughly. Darren -- Darren Cook, Software

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Darren Cook: 49483abe.9070...@dcook.org: If you find a Japanese 7p who can give a Korean 1p 2 stones and win, I will eat my hat... No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the time. Roughly. I don't

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the time. Roughly. I don't agree. Japanese Professinals' ranks never decrease. Hi, Are we talking about different things? All I meant to say was that I

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Michael Goetze mgoe...@mgoetze.net wrote: I wish people would stop spreading such incorrect information. The correlation between professional ranks and playing strength is quite bad, and EGF 7dans are not, generally speaking, professional strength. I'm not

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

Darren Cook: 49485a64.5080...@dcook.org: No one mentioned Korean professionals. But, as far as I know, a Japanese 7p should be able to give a Japanese 1p 2 stones and win 50% of the time. Roughly. I don't agree. Japanese Professinals' ranks never decrease. Hi, Are we talking about

Re: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup)

- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Hideki Kato Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:16 AM To: computer-go Subject: Results of the 2nd UEC Cup (Re: [computer-go] UEC cup) Official results (only Japanese right now) are at: http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/2008/result.html (first day) http

[computer-go] UEC cup

I was reading a report on the UEC Cup [1] on a (Japanese) blog, and if I understood correctly the results were: 1. Crazy stone 2. Fudogo (?) (Hideki Kato's program) 3. Many Faces 4. Katsunari (Mogo had time trouble and pulled out?) Crazy stone then played against Kaori Aoba, 4p, at a

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

Darren Cook wrote: I was reading a report on the UEC Cup [1] on a (Japanese) blog, and if I understood correctly the results were: 1. Crazy stone 2. Fudogo (?) (Hideki Kato's program) 3. Many Faces 4. Katsunari (Mogo had time trouble and pulled out?) Crazy stone then played against

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

Rémi Coulom: 49461936.2080...@univ-lille3.fr: Darren Cook wrote: I was reading a report on the UEC Cup [1] on a (Japanese) blog, and if I understood correctly the results were: 1. Crazy stone 2. Fudogo (?) (Hideki Kato's program) 3. Many Faces 4. Katsunari 1. Crazy Stone 2. Fudo Go

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My understanding of the PlayStation is that it's a Cell architecture, with one main CPU and six auxilary processing units with limited capability. Of course you don't need much for something to do MC playouts, so it seems a very suitable architecture. So 8 PS3s gives a total of 56 CPU's.

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Advertisement: Fudo Go used a desktop pc (Intel Q9550) and _eight_ Playstation 3 consoles on a private Gigabit Ethernet LAN. Hello Kato-sensei, Are you able to use all 8 cores of the playstation? So, with the 4 of the Q9550, 68 cores altogether? Do you, or your students, have any papers on the

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

Rémi Coulom: 49461936.2080...@univ-lille3.fr: Darren Cook wrote: I was reading a report on the UEC Cup [1] on a (Japanese) blog, and if I understood correctly the results were: 1. Crazy stone 2. Fudogo (?) (Hideki Kato's program) 3. Many Faces 4. Katsunari (Mogo had time trouble

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 09:18 -0200, Mark Boon wrote: My understanding of the PlayStation is that it's a Cell architecture, with one main CPU and six auxilary processing units with limited capability. Of course you don't need much for something to do MC playouts, so it seems a very

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Darren Cook: 49463016.1020...@dcook.org: Advertisement: Fudo Go used a desktop pc (Intel Q9550) and _eight_ Playstation 3 consoles on a private Gigabit Ethernet LAN. Hello Kato-sensei, Hello Darren, BTW, I'm not a sensei (Professor) but just a doctor course student of 55 years old :). Are

[computer-go] UEC cup

Well, Amen! As Don Dailey said, researchers probably would have concluded that MC was not worth doing, if they had been using the computers of ten or fifteen years back. Looking forward, computer power equivalent to that rig lashed together with 8 PS3s or GPUs or FPGAs, or some combination

RE: [computer-go] UEC cup

Aan: computer-go Onderwerp: [computer-go] UEC cup I was reading a report on the UEC Cup [1] on a (Japanese) blog, and if I understood correctly the results were: 1. Crazy stone 2. Fudogo (?) (Hideki Kato's program) 3. Many Faces 4. Katsunari (Mogo had time trouble and pulled out?) Crazy

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Kato, have you compared the speed of the simulations on PS3 SPE to the speed of the simulations on PC, given that the program is optimized for the cpu on both sides. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Hideki Kato hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp wrote: Darren Cook: 49463016.1020...@dcook.org:

Re: [computer-go] UEC cup

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Don Dailey drdai...@cox.net wrote: So I think we have to embrace the fact that hardware is a part of these kinds of advancements. In fact I have always believe this anyway, the whole idea behind computing is to perform simple and stupid operations very

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