Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: My point of course being that everything that sells a newer version says the same thing. Not at all. It is almost unheard of for a manufacturer to advertise the shortcomings of their product. In that vein I actually commend

Re: [CGUYS] Zire 31 project

2009-11-08 Thread Roy Ackerman,Ph.D.,P.Ch.E.,E.A.
Try Tech Republic (ZDNet). They often times have videos on all these devices and their inner workings. From: Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:41 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Zire 31

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread Chris Dunford
My point of course being that everything that sells a newer version says the same thing. Not at all. It is almost unheard of for a manufacturer to advertise the shortcomings of their product. I don't think so. Ever seen an auto company advertising improved fuel economy, better

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think so. Ever seen an auto company advertising improved fuel economy, better handling, etc.? Ever seen New Improved! 25% More Fiber! on a cereal box? This is a constant theme, and the previous shortcomings

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:59 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: REALLY??? Does that mean I could get an iPhone and find someone to unlock it and put my chip in it for $49??? Uh Oh! ... Just realized ... I guess as it stands now I would have to contractually pay ATT/Apple until my 2 yr. contract ran

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)

2009-11-08 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:17 AM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: I am not going to argue any general claims, but in this case go back and read Tom's posts when MobileMe was having all its service problems the first times Apple tried to put in Exchange support. Tom was at least

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:03 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Some of that is the duration of the outages. The Sidekick mess was a few a week or two, Mobileme was prolonged. Google was out for what a few hours? Every one is going to have server problems but the time it takes to remedy the

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:34 AM, David K Watson wrote: Don't be so hard on her, Tom. She has a brother to do all her computer service for her, for free. As I said, unwilling convert. This reminds me of a tearful phone call I took one Monday morning from a designer. Over the weekend her

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread mike
Sounds like she needs medication and maybe a life outside of her job. She probably realized after the fact she lost all her personal stuff she wasn't supposed to leave on her work machine in the first place. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:34

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)

2009-11-08 Thread mike
Then stop doing it. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: In the technical discussions conducted on this list this tactic is especially idiotic. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 8:06 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Implicit is not the same thing as making direct and unmistakable references to something. That difference is what I was pointing out in the current crop of televised Microsoft ads for Windows 7. It is a bit different in the case of M$

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 7:07 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all. It is almost unheard of for a manufacturer to advertise the shortcomings of their product. In that vein I actually commend Microsoft for being so forthright, even if it is being done in order to promote and sell the new version

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)

2009-11-08 Thread Chris Dunford
At the time I posted about the M$ $idekick $crewup the story was that there was no backup and all user files were permanently lost. Only WFBs thought that was hokedokey. Who thought that, exactly? What quote can you provide to back that up? Here's part of my post: This was just horrendous

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, db wrote: T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000 mins / mo ... use them or lose them. 1000 minutes/month. That would require that I spend around 4 per cent of my waking hours every single day yacking on the cell phone. Heck, I'm no teenager.

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)

2009-11-08 Thread mike
The point isn't that Tom can prove what he said, he is merely rewriting history to suit his needs now. Just a day or two ago I was lying about running multiple apps on my phone...a phone he's probably never even seen in pictures but knows more about then it's own users know becanse Tom Says So.

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:14 PM, mike wrote: Sounds like she needs medication and maybe a life outside of her job. She probably realized after the fact she lost all her personal stuff she wasn't supposed to leave on her work machine in the first place. Ignorant remark.

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread mike
For those who do support by phone, this isn't anything. An hour a day in a ten hour workday spent on the phone is 1200 minutes a month. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, db wrote: T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone multitasking

2009-11-08 Thread MrMike6by9
Just a brief comment. If I switch to another app on the iPhone from a Apple native app such as Safari, Safari will bring up the last page viewed when I return to it. The iPod player works the same way. Non-native apps start from the beginning. I can listen to a radio station with Ootunes on the

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread mike
Correction, the samsung moment has an 800mhz CPU, one of the fastest on the market be it iphone, blackberry or android. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: That was all on my phone, an HTC Hero. The moto droid can do the same, all the android phones are similiar

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone multitasking

2009-11-08 Thread mike
YMMV for sure. I don't want apps to stop when I move to another, that's the point. It's not multitasking, it's resuming. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:43 PM, MrMike6by9 mrmike6...@gmail.com wrote: Just a brief comment. If I switch to another app on the iPhone from a Apple native app such as

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:38 PM, mike wrote: I read carefully your uninformed bullshit. You cry someone misunderstands what you say just when you know they've got it exactly, stick and move, never admit you are wrong... Precisely my point. Asked to present facts, Mike responds with a long

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone multitasking

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: Just a brief comment. If I switch to another app on the iPhone from a Apple native app such as Safari, Safari will bring up the last page viewed when I return to it. The iPod player works the same way. Non-native apps start from the beginning. I can

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread mike
I responded, in detail. Try reading the posts. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:38 PM, mike wrote: I read carefully your uninformed bullshit. You cry someone misunderstands what you say just when you know they've got it exactly, stick and move,

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, mike wrote: For those who do support by phone, this isn't anything. An hour a day in a ten hour workday spent on the phone is 1200 minutes a month. I do Mac support. Don't need that many minutes.

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:32 PM, mike wrote: Safeway customers now just feel reinforced in their belief Safeway is the place to be. And they were happy to be ripped off by Safeway. That tells you something about their smarts.

Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear

2009-11-08 Thread mike
We all bow to your obvious superior knowledge of all things. Blah. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:32 PM, mike wrote: Safeway customers now just feel reinforced in their belief Safeway is the place to be. And they were happy to be ripped

[CGUYS] macheist bundle for free

2009-11-08 Thread mike
macheist.com is adverting a pack of free programs, some of you mac users might be interested. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread db
1000 mins/ mo. That's about 1/2 hr a day on the cell phone... db tjpa wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, db wrote: T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000 mins /mo ... use them or lose them. 1000 minutes/month. That would require that I spend around 4 per cent of my

[CGUYS] 'Clean Instal' W7 Upgrades Illegal

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
Always doing its best to be helpful, M$ wants to let you know that if you want to install W7 on a new drive you are a dirty rotten crook. Windows 7 upgrade 'hacks' not legal, Microsoft suggests http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/02/windows-7-upgrade-hacks-not-legal.aspx?s=gcndaily_041109 Over

Re: [CGUYS] macheist bundle for free

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:48 PM, mike wrote: macheist.com is adverting a pack of free programs, some of you mac users might be interested. This is real software. I guess their hope is to get you hooked and then you'll pay for the next upgrade. Life is especially tough these days for small

Re: [CGUYS] MobileMe [Was COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest …]

2009-11-08 Thread David K Watson
No, I think it was only Exchange support and some of the new MobileMe web apps that they had extended problems with when Apple was transitioning from .Mac to MobileMe. Mail, storage and syncing went almost completely unaffected and have remained so. Apple's failures were with new features that

Re: [CGUYS] 'Clean Instal' W7 Upgrades Illegal

2009-11-08 Thread Tony B
It's only illegal if you don't already own a qualifying product. You may remember when I installed Win7 on this machine I had to call MS. They specifically walked me through installing my upgrade product to a new bare drive. But I was replacing Vista; just not to the same drive. On Sun, Nov 8,

Re: [CGUYS] 'Clean Instal' W7 Upgrades Illegal

2009-11-08 Thread mike
It would be difficult to find someone that didn't have a copy of win2k/winxp or vista and be qualified. I have to say, those who bought full versions of vista, should have free upgrades or perhaps 20 dollar upgrades. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: It's only

Re: [CGUYS] 'Clean Instal' W7 Upgrades Illegal

2009-11-08 Thread Fred Holmes
So, once you have done an OS upgrade on your machine, you can no longer do an annual re-installation of the OS on a reformatted drive. And if the drive on which the upgrade was done suffers a hardware failure, it is illegal to install the upgrade OS on the new hard drive? (unless, of course,

[CGUYS] DROID killer [was: It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)]

2009-11-08 Thread b_s-wilk
First, I forgot that the Droid is by Motorola. Could this be that company's last gasp at mobile phones? My Moto SLVR was a very attractive phone that made me sound like I was calling from an undersea cave--on both Cingular and T-Mobile networks, plus Vodafone, Orange, Telefonica in Europe. Its

Re: [CGUYS] 'Clean Instal' W7 Upgrades Illegal

2009-11-08 Thread Tony B
I have no idea what you're talking about, unless you're just being sarcastic. But I thought I'd point out that an annual re-installation of the OS hasn't been advisable since the old Win9x days. The whole WinNT line has always normally been stable enough to run for years. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at

Re: [CGUYS] droid self-photography?

2009-11-08 Thread b_s-wilk
He might have been wanting to take screenshots You mean like on the iPhone and iPod Touch? That's build-in, no extra app needed. Can Droid do screenshots too? Can it select and save images? Betty * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread b_s-wilk
I believe that after a given period of time they are required to give you an unlock code to allow you open your phone up for any service provider that fits. (In this case GSM) you can then subscribe to a service and put in the SIM card. I think that you should be able to use any hardware

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Both the unlocking and jailbreaking are done with software? Depends on the phone. Some phones need a special SIM to unlock, others must be connected by cable to a PC with bluetooth turned off. Some phones all you need is an unlock code which is calculated using the IMEI, model number,