Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Yes. I can use a command prompt to spit out a text doc of the folders contents, I was hoping for something a little nicer looking. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:08 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Tree command. DOS. It's been so long. Can't you use the terminal, or I forget what it's called in Windows [start menu, somewhere], and bring up the tree, then copy and paste or save it as a text file? I can do that in the OS X Terminal. Or print screen? Win 7, firefox, looks like you said, like an FTP listing. As I said the only thing I can't seem to do that I can do without is also saving the 'links' of the nested folders. If I save the web page in full and open it on another machine, it of course does not open the folder links. But the main folders show up fine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Heh. Just spotted another one; seems timely. Remember to take all these quotes with a grain of salt; these are the truly discontented. I'm just about to move to [] from 1and1 (who are awful btw, please anyone reading this do not even consider 1and1, even if they offer you lifetime hosting for free!). But a nearby thread gives them a better take: I wouldn't recommend 1and1's hosting, but their domain registration is both inexpensive and fully (including EPP auth codes) under control of the domain owner which is also reflected in all whois lookups. Which actually touches on a point I was making earlier. Many people don't care to have to fool with things like EPP auth codes and might be a lot better off with a different solution other than their own website. Oh, btw, some other hosts to avoid that were mentioned (but not nearly as often as 1and1): Bluehost, Ipower, Streamline.net, ANRHost, Jumpline, Surfspeedy, Vodahost, IXwebhosting, and oddly, *any* host outside of the USA. I personally stick to North American datacenters because the vast majority of my visitors are here and I want to minimize latency. I've read from more than a few sources that the hosting prices in Europe and elsewhere tend to be higher, and that the datacenters and network backbones elsewhere aren't as robust as they are in the North American Tier IV spaces. I know many Europeans choose hosting over here because the better infrastructure outweighs the latency hit. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] stuff to get ridda
i spent a little time fiddlin' with my trusty ibm x31 to make a little space ...i decided to take off safari and chrome ...they aren't anything ...i found coupla old versions of jvm ...how come updater doesn't take off the old stuff? ...d'oh~! ...found some other stuff to dump ...a while ago I put on open office ...it's closed now for good ...I also found some old picture management stuff ...since I just got office2007, none of that is needed anymore ...my notebook feels lighter~! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] bring home the bacon~!
...this morning I received an email from cheaptickets.com adtvertising a huge sale on tickets from the usa to new zealand (really) ...a few minutes ago I was listening to wrti fm in the delaware valley and they have a big contest going on with the prize being a huge trip to mexico ...what ever happened to copy editors?? ...d'oh! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] New MS ad...
Saw the new MS Laptop Hunters ad last night on the TV. Besides the norm of making the point the WIndows computers are cheap, I was struck by what is obvious, yet to me questionable about the correlation about being concerned about price while still spending an awful lot on a kid. In the ad, the mom is out with her son, shopping for a gaming computer for what appears to be maybe a thirteen/fourteen year old. Her budget is $1,500. Is this the norm these days for expenditures on the whims of children? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ad...
In the ad, the mom is out with her son, shopping for a gaming computer for what appears to be maybe a thirteen/fourteen year old. Her budget is $1,500. Is this the norm these days for expenditures on the whims of children? I don't think it's the norm, especially in this economy, but there has been some very interesting research reported lately about some beneficial effects of gaming. There was a study not long ago that demonstrated significantly improved hand-eye coordination and such, another one that showed enhanced problem-solving ability, and now this: http://tinyurl.com/dx5hut Of course, this was followed up a month or so later by a report that some kids are addicted, literally, to video games. Parents have been saying this for a long time, but it's now official: 8.5% of kids in a psychological survey showed multiple signs of behavioral addiction. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win98 printer issue
Yes, unplug and replug the USB. Win98 has a nasty habit of losing USB-attached hardware. Remember this was the first WinOS to support USB, and it wasn't pretty. - Original Message - From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Win98 printer issue My relative has an issue with his Gateway Win 98 computer which I am trying to help him resolve (long distance). He is trying to hook up a Compaq IJ650 Printer with a USB cable. He has lost the installation disk but I was able to find the drivers for it (http://tinyurl.com/6spkf), and send them down. With great difficulty installing them, he was able to get it working over the weekend. But now it no longer works. Besides the obvious (get a new computer!), is there something that might help solve this problem? Thanks in advance, Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
I'm using both Yahoo and Network Solutions and both are fine, I actually prefer Yahoo because their maintenance (Yahoo Webbuilder) is idiot proof. - Original Message - From: db db...@att.net To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question It depends on how much assistance, capabilities and bandwidth you want. GoDaddy is inexpensive and you pay additionally for more features. Yahoo seems to be rated highly. Network Solutions is another. I'd be curious to hear people's suggestions myself... Besides a place to plunk your website, what capabilities/ capacities do you want? db Frank Sestir wrote: Any favorites out there for webhosting? Anyone use Inmotion Hosting? Looking for an inexpensive but reliable site. Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
without too much running around. This is an ideal example of why web shopping is better. At local stores the good stuff was always out of stock. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Yes. I can use a command prompt to spit out a text doc of the folders contents, I was hoping for something a little nicer looking. I said sed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Oh, btw, some other hosts to avoid that were mentioned (but not nearly as often as 1and1): Bluehost, Ipower, Streamline.net, ANRHost, Jumpline, Surfspeedy, Vodahost, IXwebhosting, and oddly, *any* host outside of the USA. I would put GoDaddy on the list just because they will constantly be trying to sell you stuff and make it sound like it is somehow required. I have also read that they are a favorite of spammers so their IPS get on blacklists a lot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ad...
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: In the ad, the mom is out with her son, shopping for a gaming computer for what appears to be maybe a thirteen/fourteen year old. Her budget is $1,500. Is this the norm these days for expenditures on the whims of children? I don't think it's the norm, especially in this economy, but there has been some very interesting research reported lately about some beneficial effects of gaming. There was a study not long ago that demonstrated significantly improved hand-eye coordination and such, another one that showed enhanced problem-solving ability, and now this: http://tinyurl.com/dx5hut Yeah, well, President Reagan once famously spoke about the warriors of the future that were learning how to wage computer-based warfare through playing shoot-em-up video games. You've also got the growing obesity problem in kids who prefer to sit around all day playing those games. They may have great eye-hand coordination, but could they run for more than a block without passing out from exhaustion? All that being said, and back to the ad, I find a disconnect in how a mother wants to save money, yet apparently doesn't blink an eye about spending $1,500 on what amounts to a toy for her youngster. I recall how I would be absolutely thrilled to get a $6.99 football when I was a kid that age. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New MS ad...
Saw the new MS Laptop Hunters ad last night on the TV. My fave is Laptop Hunters: Homeless Frank (only on YouTube). He gets it! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win98 printer issue
Of course, try the obvious (reboot the computer, reboot the printer, replug, check the ink, try the printer and cable on another computer) If all else fails, a complete reinstall of the operating system may be your best solution. Win98 was not very stable... it usually needed to be erased and completely reinstalled yearly for power users, and 2 to 3 years for the average (light use) users. Of course a botched install of a device driver or application might damage the registry to the point of needing a complete install in just 1 day (Hey, I've seen it happen!) This will also restore the speed that the user experienced when they first bought the computer, and that makes them very happy! In January, after months of trying to fix my mother-in-laws WIN98 printer problem over the phone, I just took her a new computer. She insisted the refilled ink cartridge was new and working, but when I visited her, there was no ink (or dried ink) in the cartridge. She was too cheap to buy a new manufacturer cartridge to test her printer. Good luck! - Brian My relative has an issue with his Gateway Win 98 computer which I am trying to help him resolve (long distance). He is trying to hook up a Compaq IJ650 Printer with a USB cable. He has lost the installation disk but I was able to find the drivers for it (http://tinyurl.com/6spkf), and send them down. With great difficulty installing them, he was able to get it working over the weekend. But now it no longer works. Besides the obvious (get a new computer!), is there something that might help solve this problem? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
If Yahoo (GeoCities?) is going to get out of the site hosting business, wouldn't we want to not include them as a good hosting candidate? Or are they only closing down GeoCities? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Yahoo mentioned closing down Geocities in the near future. 11 is in Philly? I lived there for 8 years, and I think some people there speak English. They moved their data center to Kansas City about a year ago. To their credit they did it with minimal disruption to their clients. KC seems to have lots of fiber due to its being a major RR hub. They claim to be green, powered mostly by local hydro. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
At 2:00 PM -0400 4/28/09, Tom Piwowar wrote: They moved their data center to Kansas City about a year ago. To their credit they did it with minimal disruption to their clients. KC seems to have lots of fiber due to its being a major RR hub. They claim to be green, powered mostly by local hydro. Hydro? In Kansas City?!? It must be from low-head dams. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Only Geocities. Yahoo Small Business continues. - Original Message - From: db db...@att.net To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question If Yahoo (GeoCities?) is going to get out of the site hosting business, wouldn't we want to not include them as a good hosting candidate? Or are they only closing down GeoCities? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Yahoo mentioned closing down Geocities in the near future. 11 is in Philly? I lived there for 8 years, and I think some people there speak English. They moved their data center to Kansas City about a year ago. To their credit they did it with minimal disruption to their clients. KC seems to have lots of fiber due to its being a major RR hub. They claim to be green, powered mostly by local hydro. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win98 printer issue
Thanks to all for their suggestions. I have passed them along and will report back what works. Interestingly, after working on their Win98 system for 3 days a few years ago, I did buy a new WinXP PC for them to replace it, but had to return it because of their personal reasons (learning a new operating system, not wanting to throw out a perfectly good computer, who knows what?). I wanted to simplify my life and theirs but it was not to be. But they are my relatives so on it goes. Richard P. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Brian Jones wjone...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Of course, try the obvious (reboot the computer, reboot the printer, replug, check the ink, try the printer and cable on another computer) If all else fails, a complete reinstall of the operating system may be your best solution. Win98 was not very stable... it usually needed to be erased and completely reinstalled yearly for power users, and 2 to 3 years for the average (light use) users. Of course a botched install of a device driver or application might damage the registry to the point of needing a complete install in just 1 day (Hey, I've seen it happen!) This will also restore the speed that the user experienced when they first bought the computer, and that makes them very happy! In January, after months of trying to fix my mother-in-laws WIN98 printer problem over the phone, I just took her a new computer. She insisted the refilled ink cartridge was new and working, but when I visited her, there was no ink (or dried ink) in the cartridge. She was too cheap to buy a new manufacturer cartridge to test her printer. Good luck! - Brian My relative has an issue with his Gateway Win 98 computer which I am trying to help him resolve (long distance). He is trying to hook up a Compaq IJ650 Printer with a USB cable. He has lost the installation disk but I was able to find the drivers for it (http://tinyurl.com/6spkf), and send them down. With great difficulty installing them, he was able to get it working over the weekend. But now it no longer works. Besides the obvious (get a new computer!), is there something that might help solve this problem? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Both Yahoo web hosting and Godaddy web hosting seem to get fairly high marks. Or, i.e., not a whole lot of negative remarks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Perhaps you did, but if you didn't offer a step by step how to export a tree view folder list from sed to html, then nobody's interested. I'm not even sure it's *possible*, not to mention the hassles involved. Be lots easier for the OP to just get one of the shareware tree view apps. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Yes. I can use a command prompt to spit out a text doc of the folders contents, I was hoping for something a little nicer looking. I said sed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The document was very interesting. It was things I had all along but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and document. It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several times first to Novell and then Corel. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Art Clemons According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The document was very interesting. It was things I had all along but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and document. It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several times first to Novell and then Corel. I thought Windows showed up before the Novell Corel, but the sale(s) didn't help. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly My reality check just bounced * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting email spam?
I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden gems that might not readily show up in a search. Thanks. /gayley -- -- Gayley Knight Business Her Way twitter.com/mothergeek Broadside at BHW businessherway.net/broadside.html Join the Business Her Way group: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/72434/292E6A08147B Advisory Board: Fintel Communications * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
It did. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt way...@panix.com wrote: Art Clemons According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The document was very interesting. It was things I had all along but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and document. It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several times first to Novell and then Corel. I thought Windows showed up before the Novell Corel, but the sale(s) didn't help. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly My reality check just bounced * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema
I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden gems that might not readily show up in a search. #1 Don't put the question in the subject line because many email clients will truncate it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several times first to Novell and then Corel. The big failure was that the folks at WordPerfect never figured out how to re-engineer their program for a GUI. They made lots of mistakes. Their menu structure was terrible. The tried to invent their own user interface rules instead of following the operating system's conventions. It was a flop. As much as I criticize MS for its user interface foibles, the errors made by WordPerfect Corp were far, far worse. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Perhaps you did, but if you didn't offer a step by step... Where is you sense of adventure? Step-by-step is is for those whiney MFBs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting...
Haha. Loved the Madoff computer also. /gayley On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden gems that might not readily show up in a search. #1 Don't put the question in the subject line because many email clients will truncate it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden gems that might not readily show up in a search. #1 Don't put the question in the subject line because many email clients will truncate it. Or atleast repeat the question in the email. This does give you the opportunity to ask the question in two ways one short for the subject and one long for the body. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusively_t o_verizon.html Everybody is guessing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Tom Piwowar It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several times first to Novell and then Corel. The big failure was that the folks at WordPerfect never figured out how to re-engineer their program for a GUI. They made lots of mistakes. Their menu structure was terrible. The tried to invent their own user interface rules instead of following the operating system's conventions. It was a flop. I thought they tried to use a version of thier DOS interface in the Windows world. At the time, WP was the leader of the word processing packages, they wanted to maintain the same user I/F to make the transition easier. As much as I criticize MS for its user interface foibles, the errors made by WordPerfect Corp were far, far worse. I heard (?somewhere?) the single application that sold Windows to the masses was a give away called Solitaire. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly The darn thing works better if you plug it in * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
and SED is for *nix I believe. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Perhaps you did, but if you didn't offer a step by step... Where is you sense of adventure? Step-by-step is is for those whiney MFBs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting email spam?
Several thoughts come to mind: - Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way to get a hold of the government. You can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form. - Route email through something like gmail, which keep up-to-date on the current spam methods and do a pretty good job at making sure that they filter out the junk. - Figure out why they really want or need email. There may be other methods that are more suitable. Is the email so they can communicate with each other, or with constituents? How about a forum (possibly that allows anonymous posting, if thats appropriate) with a CAPATCHA?You might not even need the CAPATCHA if its just for internal discussions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Business Her Way g...@mothergeek.com wrote: I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden gems that might not readily show up in a search. Thanks. /gayley -- -- Gayley Knight Business Her Way twitter.com/mothergeek Broadside at BHW businessherway.net/broadside.html Join the Business Her Way group: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/72434/292E6A08147B Advisory Board: Fintel Communications * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema
- Route email through something like gmail, which keep up-to-date on the current spam methods and do a pretty good job at making sure that they filter out the junk. I do this. Works great. Note that Google bought Postini so you could purchase their filtering services that way too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema
Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way to get a hold of the government. You can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form. Spammers attack web forms too. They have bots that fill in forms with their messages and submit the forms. You may not need something a complicated/annoying as a CAPATCHA. Just have one form field that asks something that a spammer would not know. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
First came windows and their first implementation to windows did not go well. They came out with WP6 and that was much better. Then came all the management changes. They were a great Unix/Xenix WP and our clients loved it. Stewart At 05:09 PM 4/28/2009, you wrote: Art Clemons According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The document was very interesting. It was things I had all along but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and document. It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several times first to Novell and then Corel. I thought Windows showed up before the Novell Corel, but the sale(s) didn't help. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly My reality check just bounced * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
and SED is for *nix I believe. There is a Windows version and a community that posts pre-written scripts. Including one that works on directory trees. You would need to adapt it for Windows format. sed.sourceforge.net/grabbag/scripts/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive ly_to_verizon.html Everybody is guessing. I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema
Right. My point wasn't put a web form there, and you're fine. It was put a web form there, but you still need to put in some anti-bot technology. Your suggestion of a form field may be easily effective as well, although I've seen some spammers get around simple ones of these as well. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way to get a hold of the government. You can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form. Spammers attack web forms too. They have bots that fill in forms with their messages and submit the forms. You may not need something a complicated/annoying as a CAPATCHA. Just have one form field that asks something that a spammer would not know. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting email spam?
Thanks, all, great thoughts and I will pass them on. /gayley On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Allen Firstenberg wrote: Several thoughts come to mind: - Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way to get a hold of the government. You can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form. - Route email through something like gmail, which keep up-to-date on the current spam methods and do a pretty good job at making sure that they filter out the junk. - Figure out why they really want or need email. There may be other methods that are more suitable. Is the email so they can communicate with each other, or with constituents? How about a forum (possibly that allows anonymous posting, if thats appropriate) with a CAPATCHA?You might not even need the CAPATCHA if its just for internal discussions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Business Her Way g...@mothergeek.com wrote: I am doing some research for a mayor and council of a small town as a favor. I am researching on line but think you all may have some hidden gems that might not readily show up in a search. Thanks. /gayley -- -- Gayley Knight Business Her Way twitter.com/mothergeek Broadside at BHW businessherway.net/broadside.html Join the Business Her Way group: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/72434/292E6A08147B Advisory Board: Fintel Communications * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
Yes, but what percentage of the time do you end up having to return electronic purchases made online? All this talk of reception problems, maybe a need for a special antenna, possibly roof antenna, etc. makes me think a return may be fairly likely. But maybe there is no real good alternative, as the stores do seem to be out of these and so many other things. K-Mart online shows the Zenith Insignia out of stock. It would be so helpful if you could search a specific store's inventory online, rather than having to go in person or call and take a chance that a) anyone will answer and b) if they do, they will give you an accurate answer. Randall On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: without too much running around. This is an ideal example of why web shopping is better. At local stores the good stuff was always out of stock. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] MS ads: Rebuttal
Apple rebuts Microsoft criticisms that Macs are overpriced http://tinyurl.com/c634vl * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apple sued over some of its DMCA takedown practices
No telling where this will end up, but it is interesting that Apple is doing DMCA takedowns over discussions of how to use its products in an unapproved manner. http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090427/tc_pcworld/appleissuedafterpressuringopensourceitunesproject * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *