Re: [CGUYS] Slow-motion video

2009-05-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Still, no question reviewing sporting events would be a valid use for special effects like forward and reverse slo-mo. What is a valid use versus an invalid use? I will often want to slow down the playback of a video in order to

Re: [CGUYS] urgent query

2009-05-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:53 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: She said that the MacBook Air was too expensive because it cost at least $1800. I'm pointing out that she can get one for half that at the online Apple Store. She didn't say exactly what her budget was. Maybe, like Lauren,

Re: [CGUYS] Wither the newsmag?

2009-05-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net wrote: I personally believe that person should know the basics of at least two OS.  Much of it carries over from one to the other. Ah, but this is the United States of America. We are steeped in our OWN culture, and

[CGUYS] Zune HD

2009-05-27 Thread Chris Dunford
MS has announced Zune HD for fall release. Multitouch OLED 3.3 16:9 screen, HD radio, full WiFi w/ multitouch-enabled browser, virtual keyboard. Plays HD video downscaled to its own screen or at 720p on HDTV via an AV dock and an onboard HDMI port. Xbox Live and Zune Marketplace to be integrated,

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this peaked my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Cannon
Thanks, I will correct the subject line on future postings. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 06:15:05PM -0400, Tony B wrote: Piqued. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=piqued On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Brian Jones wjone...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Interesting... a computer with no PCI

[CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread Jeff Wright
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Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Cannon
The least expensive new Mac Mini I saw was 599$ on apple's site. That is an extra 300$ not 100 or 150. I could purchase an additional machine for that price. I won't argue that OS X is better than Fedora. I would like to try out OS X. I only plan on using it for Firefox, email, media stuff (vlc

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Paul where did you see the price you did on the Netbook. Also which model. Stewart At 07:02 AM 5/27/2009, you wrote: The least expensive new Mac Mini I saw was 599$ on apple's site. That is an extra 300$ not 100 or 150. I could purchase an additional machine for that price. I won't argue

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread mike
You'll never be a good MFB if you start worrying about cost. Being a good MFB is like joining scientology, you never worry about the high price of being pure. As expressed in another thread, the very idea of going into a computer store with a budget is not towing the line for Steve Jobs. Think

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
WFBs must join Redmond and never deviate from (nor become unlicen$ed from) the Official Word, always ignoring any inconvenient facts or expertise to restate all dogma from the supreme leader, $teve Ballmer, or in His absence, the Almighty Bill Gate$ while awaiting the Glorious Day when all other

Re: [CGUYS] Slow-motion video

2009-05-27 Thread Tony B
You're reading way too much into a quick response. You are correct, there is no 'invalid' use for special effects, that is simply a verbal flourish on my part. Thanks for the clarification. :) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:54 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK now everyone face to the northwest and kneel in prayer. Amen. Stewart At 09:25 AM 5/27/2009, you wrote: WFBs must join Redmond and never deviate from (nor become unlicen$ed from) the Official Word, always ignoring any inconvenient facts or expertise to restate all dogma from the supreme

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread Tony B
What isn't clear is if I need this if I have auto updates turned on? I'll assume I already have everything in it unless specifically told otherwise. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148.aspx SP1 is required.

Re: [CGUYS] Wither the newsmag?

2009-05-27 Thread Jordan
t.piwowar wrote: Based on your conduct here I don't think I would accept your word on anything at all. Bingo! These guys are the AIG of the list. Except it's AIB, arrogance, ignorance, belligerence. The AIB group. Tiresome.

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread b_s-wilk
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148.aspx SP1 is required. I had Mac OS X, 10.5.3 on one of my computers. I downloaded a combo update that contained all of the updates from 10.5.4 to 10.5.7 and installed them in one package. Does Microsoft offer combo updates for Windows?

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Jordan
Just to clarify on some of your comments: Don't forget to check the refurbs. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=MTE3NjY You don't need Applecare, especially if you have some skills. But I think you have a year to decide if you want to get it. Meanwhile, Apple has

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Depends on who you ask. Sometimes the SP's will rule up previous updates in their package. I usually prefer to do them one at a time to make sure it works. But read the package literature first. Stewart At 10:25 AM 5/27/2009, you wrote:

[CGUYS] Are you a knowledge worker? Or do you manage one?

2009-05-27 Thread Arnold Kee
Hello all: Having worked for non-profit organizations for more than 15 years, I thought that the idea of being a knowledge worker was actually a new term that evolved with advanced use of personal computers--which seemed to rise exponentially with the birth of Internet. Around the mid-to-late

Re: [CGUYS] Wither the newsmag?

2009-05-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Bingo! These guys are the AIG of the list. Except it's AIB, arrogance, ignorance, belligerence. The AIB group. Tiresome. Jordan, it's really too bad that people like you and Tom let a blinding partisan ideology fatally impair your thinking. Try reality. It's refreshing.

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Does Microsoft offer combo updates for Windows? Can I go directly from Vista [Business], no SP, to SP2 with a combo? Or do the service packs have to be installed separately? Typically service packs have been rollups of all previous SPs for that OS and didn't require anything beyond RTM. I

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Cannon
Well, it's not really a netbook. It is categorized on NewEgg as a mini booksize barebones system. I am considering of getting the following: 149$ MSI Wind Nettop 100 Intel 945GC 1 x 200Pin Intel GMA 950 Black Mini / Booksize Barebone System - Retail

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK I thought it was a netbook, but a nettop for a basic workstation is not bad either. Thanks. Stewart At 10:46 AM 5/27/2009, you wrote: Well, it's not really a netbook. It is categorized on NewEgg as a mini booksize barebones system. I am considering of getting the following: 149$ MSI

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread b_s-wilk
The Applecare protection plan is 149$ and all the software I saw (filemaker, logic express, aperture, final cut, Iwork) had a price tag. Is this for pre-installation only or does Apple supply the media and let users install it for free? If I were to get a Mac, I would probably get a iMac and

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread mike
The SP is the combo. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:25 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148.aspx SP1 is required. I had Mac OS X, 10.5.3 on one of my computers. I downloaded a combo update that contained all of the updates from 10.5.4 to

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread b_s-wilk
You'll never be a good MFB if you start worrying about cost. Being a good MFB is like joining scientology, you never worry about the high price of being pure. As expressed in another thread, the very idea of going into a computer store with a budget is not towing the line for Steve Jobs. Think

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Cannon
I'll have to remember to look at the refurbs if and when I finally decide to try out OS X. OS X, Time Machine and Safari in the included software list interest me the most. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:18:19AM -0400, Jordan wrote: Just to clarify on some of your comments: Don't forget to check

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK Betty I keep hearing this and many people think that old PC's just get junked. Not so. The local school has been running Win95 and Win98 PC's for many years. They have not upgraded to Vista and a lot of their computer are probably 6-7 years old. I run old stuff at home. I just took

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread b_s-wilk
Mark--You're getting drawn into the WFB reality distortion. Calm down. Macs are cheaper than PCs [TCO]. Don't be confused by comparisons with cults and scientology when the facts are in your favor. Mac owners are the ones with budgets that are written with long-term planning included. -- da

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I was just having fun, responding in-kind to a silly post (keying on the pseudo-religious reference). Was and am calm; still chuckling, too. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Mark--You're getting drawn into the WFB reality distortion. Calm down. Macs are cheaper than PCs [TCO].

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread mike
I'm aware of TCO...but in this case she was asking for a 350 dollar choice and the only one she got from the mac fan crowd was 1000 to 1800. Truly, there are cases when a mac is NOT the choice, and cases where a mac is the choice. It's just that some here think mac is the only choice no matter

[CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread b_s-wilk
GreaterGreaterWashington.com sez: Bus stop 2020: A team at MIT has designed a bus stop of the future. Riders can plan a bus trip on an interactive map, surf the Web, monitor their real-time exposure to pollutants and use their mobile devices as an interface with the bus shelter. They can also

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread Jeff Wright
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd335038.aspx Are there any prerequisites for SP2? You must have Windows Vista with SP1 or Windows Server 2008 installed on your computer before installing Service Pack 2. (Windows Server 2008 shipped with Service Pack 1 included.) If you choose to

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread mike
We are all in the distortion, if you believe you are not, that's where your problems begin. If you can't have fun with that, then what is the point? On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: I was just having fun, responding in-kind to a silly post

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Why not try out Safari now? There is a Windows version that, I'm told, runs just like the OSX version. (Personally, I don't see whats so special about Safari, having used the Windows version. Its a browser with nothing particularly remarkable about it. Chrome has more interesting features, and

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread db
Nice gadget ... too bad that in times of increased ridership because of gas prices/ economy and funding issues, most city bus systems are facing budget shortfalls and service cutbacks... Expensive gee wiz bus tech gadgets ... will that help or make the $ problem worse? Honest question ...

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread t.piwowar
On May 27, 2009, at 1:01 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Bus stop 2020: A team at MIT has designed a bus stop of the future. Many of the commentators shared my first thought. The one I liked best was even a step ahead... Maybe they should incorporate some kind of lightning zapper device to shoot

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It depends. In many foreign countries public transportation is the backbone of getting from one place to the next. I know in Europe it is frequently used and well respected. The problem here is that it is not always well thought out, tends to be restricted time wise, and is not available in

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread t.piwowar
On May 27, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Paul Cannon wrote: The least expensive new Mac Mini I saw was 599$ on apple's site. That is an extra 300$ not 100 or 150. I could purchase an additional machine for that price. Not my fault that your area poor shopper. I recently bought several at $450 so that

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread t.piwowar
On May 27, 2009, at 6:01 PM, db wrote: Expensive gee wiz bus tech gadgets ... will that help or make the $ problem worse? The bus stop near my house has a small scrolling display that shows arrival times for the next few buses. It has been in service for over a year and still working.

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread db
Some university techies implemented an ingenious add-on for Seattle's Bus Metro here (called One Bus Away) that allows you to place a call or SMS text to a totally automated system, where you indicate the bus stop # by voice or SMS and it reports back by voice or text when and which buses will

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The more customer service oriented they make it the better it is. The ones in Portland work exceptionally well and tell you where you want to go. Same with St. Louis. Came in to airports at both and got to where I needed to be with no problems. Stewart At 05:37 PM 5/27/2009, you wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread b_s-wilk
I'm aware of TCO...but in this case she was asking for a 350 dollar choice and the only one she got from the mac fan crowd was 1000 to 1800. Did Marcia mention a price or price range? She mentioned netbooks because of the weight, and discounted the MacBook Air because she thought it was too

Re: [CGUYS] Slow-motion video

2009-05-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: You're reading way too much into a quick response. You are correct, there is no 'invalid' use for special effects, that is simply a verbal flourish on my part. Thanks for the clarification. :) In the long run, you may wind up

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread t.piwowar
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Vista SP2 is out

2009-05-27 Thread t.piwowar
On May 27, 2009, at 11:25 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: Does Microsoft offer combo updates for Windows? Can I go directly from Vista [Business], no SP, to SP2 with a combo? Or do the service packs have to be installed separately? You bring up a painful topic. M$ rarely makes things cumulative.

Re: [CGUYS] Wither the newsmag?

2009-05-27 Thread t.piwowar
On May 27, 2009, at 5:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, but this is the United States of America. We are steeped in our OWN culture, and avoid the contamination of others such as the French or of... Macintosh, which sounds kinda Scottish or something else that conjures images of Old

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Cannon
Url ? I tried froogle and the prices were all over the map due to os release versions and different memory and graphic cards. Any vendors/sites that you would recommend looking at? Microcenter seems to be the same price; was it a sale special? Any other local dealers that would have a lower

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Last I knew www.geeks.com was also selling some refurbed Macs Stewart At 06:46 PM 5/27/2009, you wrote: Url ? I tried froogle and the prices were all over the map due to os release versions and different memory and graphic cards. Any vendors/sites that you would recommend looking at?

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread Matthew Taylor
Nothing they can do to increase ridership will help so long as they operate under a model that has them loose money on each rider. You can't make it up in volume. Matthew On May 27, 2009, at 6:01 PM, db wrote: Nice gadget ... too bad that in times of increased ridership because of gas

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Volume does help. The problem I see that they need to correct is a view of public transportation as ill suited to anyone with an income over the poverty level in some cities. Anyone will tell you that if you increase your volume you increase your profit. Most public transportation does not

[CGUYS] An observation

2009-05-27 Thread Stephen Brownfield
In my recent post about slow-motion, I think I may have observed a difference in the Mac and Windows users mind set. It appears that the Mac user asks How do you do something? and the Windows user asks Why do you want to do it? Steve

Re: [CGUYS] An observation

2009-05-27 Thread Tony B
That's not so much an 'observation' as a 'generalization'. I know *I* was curious, and asked why, but I don't recall any others asking. Or caring. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net wrote: In my recent post about slow-motion, I think I may have observed a

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread Matthew Taylor
No, volume hurts most public transit because the cost to serve additional passengers is greater than the revenue received from those passengers. Yes, you can make a bit more if you are filling mostly empty busses and train cars, but when you need to expand service to need greater demand

Re: [CGUYS] MIT's futuristic, networked bus stop design

2009-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Again because they aim only at the lower income. If they aimed at a higher income they would make money. That is what I meant about neighborhoods not served. In Europe their public transportation does not just aim at one socio economic strata. It serves all. In Canada (One I am again

Re: [CGUYS] Was browsing newegg and this piqued my interest

2009-05-27 Thread katan
This list really is getting childish: On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:25:24 -0500, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: WFBs must join Redmond and never deviate from (nor become unlicen$ed from) the Official Word, always ignoring any inconvenient facts or expertise to restate all dogma from the supreme leader,