Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Tony B
Clearly this is something new. In the Old Days a bank would have no idea if you dropped dead last Saturday. I doubt we can wrench the list away from all the important things being discussed, but I'm wondering just who keeps this database of newly departed and how does that list get to the bank? An

Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Sue Cubic
At 09:56 PM 7/16/2009 -0400, you wrote: I'm not sure I understand. They shut down your joint account within 12 hours of *what*? Your husband's death? Or when they were notified of his death? Or when the executor told them to? Banks, Social Security and probably others have some sort of inside

Re: [CGUYS] Printer Experts needed

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > Seems like horse hockey to me. Maybe not "horse hockey," but perhaps Horse Poop. HP. Get it? Why would HP arrange to prohibit a user from having multiple HP printers? Would you not determine which driver and printer to use when

Re: [CGUYS] Spoiled brats [was: Advertising for cell phones]

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> When I was house hunting a few months ago, I was somewhat astounded > to see the rooms of some children in houses I was looking at. The > computer/entertainment systems in the rooms of some kids had to be up > in the triple thousands of dollars. Huge LCD or plasma TV/monitors, > DVD players,

Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Tony B
I'm not sure I understand. They shut down your joint account within 12 hours of *what*? Your husband's death? Or when they were notified of his death? Or when the executor told them to? And if this is the case, what good did it do you to have the password to the account? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Jordan wrote: > I understood that you were being sarcastic, but the audio and visual > stimulation in some of the mass market stores is successful at the > stimulation you speak of for most people. One day I was in a music store at Tyson's Corner Center in Mclea

Re: [CGUYS] Printer Experts needed

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> I recently bought a refurbished HP L7650 Office ink Jet for the office. > > My computer will not load the printer drivers for the network . > > I chatted with HP support and it turns out that since I have already > installed the drivers for my J6480 at home (Wireless) I cant load the > drivers

Re: [CGUYS] Printer Experts needed

2009-07-16 Thread Tony B
Oh, I suppose it could be true. Just pick whichever one is newer and install those drivers (that's how video drivers work). Chances are, if you're having trouble sharing the printer it has nothing at all to do with drivers anyway. Unless maybe you've got old Win9x systems in the mix somewhere. On

[CGUYS] Printer Experts needed

2009-07-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I recently bought a refurbished HP L7650 Office ink Jet for the office. My computer will not load the printer drivers for the network . I chatted with HP support and it turns out that since I have already installed the drivers for my J6480 at home (Wireless) I cant load the drivers for the L76

Re: [CGUYS] STOP THE PEE TAX - was Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: > Moot point for us cons. With our loss of exec and legislative branches, the > Dems could finally get their SCHIP program through and now the sick children > are safe from the wrath of con. I thought the last batch of cons in the WH sort

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: > Good one, Tom! Tom just doesn't like to have any fun! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member m

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > They read quite a bit, play outside and play with Legos, too.  My daughter > writes poetry, makes films, draws prodigiously and my son, well, he's not > too creative, but he loves playing sports.  I believe that everything can be > done in mode

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread mike
Yeah, thought it was 9.99 but it's 15 bux. Still not bad for those kids who want new music every 20 minutes. I've been sticking with getting new stuff from local bands. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > > Well when you *pay* for them that usually means you got them from

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread db
Well I lost the playlists and wasted a lot of time... why not feel resentful? Is this the one you are talking about ... or did you find something better? http://www.apple.com/support/ilife/tutorials/itunes/it7-2.html This one is a rather scattered/ conflicting collection of directions (If you

Re: [CGUYS] STOP THE PEE TAX - was Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> Moot point for us cons. With our loss of exec and legislative branches, > the Dems could finally get their SCHIP program through and now the sick > children are safe from the wrath of con. NEO C-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-N! (Tom's nightly regime.) *

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Dunford
> > Well when you *pay* for them that usually means you got them from a > > vendor. > > She spent $30,000 on tunes? Wow. I want her allowance. Oh, I see where you've gone wrong--you're thinking of iPod. She can download as much as she wants for $15/month with Zune Pass. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> Nope. She had the iPod, her brother has a Zune. She used both and liked the > Zune better. She is, in fact, going against the current since the cool kids > are going to stick their noses in the air and > sniff aristocratically. Thank god we've grown out of that whole thing around here, eh? ***

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> Clearly you have not been in an Apple Store. They do not look > anything like a Circuit City. Closed? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more

Re: [CGUYS] STOP THE PEE TAX - was Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Steve at Verizon
Moot point for us cons. With our loss of exec and legislative branches, the Dems could finally get their SCHIP program through and now the sick children are safe from the wrath of con. t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: I guess, as a free market con, I should

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread David K Watson
Actually, some gas stations still do give discounts for cash, like the one I frequent. I still pay by credit card most of the time though, as I generally would save less than $ 1 and usually don't carry a lot of cash on me. From:Matthew Taylor Subject: Re: Batch downloading of bank check

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Dunford
> Or, just as likely, a boyfriend or girlfriend just got a Zune, so > she's gotta get one too is she is at that impressionable, I wanna be > one of the crowd age. Nope. She had the iPod, her brother has a Zune. She used both and liked the Zune better. She is, in fact, going against the current

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Dunford
> > Well, my daughter's iPod has died. She wants a Zune. Not another iPod. > > So will you let her out of the attic now? Well, unlike you, she bases her opinions on actual experience. She's used both her iPod and her brother's Zune. She likes the Zune better. Sorry if that offends your sensibil

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Jordan wrote: I understood that you were being sarcastic, but the audio and visual stimulation in some of the mass market stores is successful at the stimulation you speak of for most people. Clearly you have not been in an Apple Store. They do not look anythin

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jordan
t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: Talking to sharp people about the good stuff they sell can be satisfying and stimulating to some of us. Sounds like an Apple Store. That and a good book store, and a good sporting goods store(REI and such) are the most reliable plac

Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Sue Cubic
At 03:14 PM 7/16/2009 -0700, you wrote: And just where is this info backed up in case your computer gets hit by a blimp? It is also "not good enough", as some places make you, as surviving spouse, tell them the passwords on the phone or in person. If passwords are encrypted, as most are, you

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jordan
I understood that you were being sarcastic, but the audio and visual stimulation in some of the mass market stores is successful at the stimulation you speak of for most people. Jeff Wright wrote: Which is about as "exciting" as an Apple store. You know, about as exciting as a Gap

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Steve at Verizon
Good one, Tom! t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 4:50 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I use cash whenever possible. No trail. I don't shop at *those* kinds of stores. * ** List info, subscription management, list ru

Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Steve at Verizon
MozBackup to thumb drives and other external HD. mike wrote: And just where is this info backed up in case your computer gets hit by a blimp? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: My wife and I both use Firefox and know how to access Saved Passwords in the Security tab o

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> These days a $1,600 computer > for a nine year old is par for the course, along with the cellphone, > the game machine. the digital camera and Lord knows what else. And we > wonder why so many seem to need special ed to know the difference > betewwn work and play? Even then, there are levels of

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread mike
That's ok, they got you on camera. On 7/16/09, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:15 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > >> I don't shop at *those* kinds of stores. > > What!! I'm talking about the Tyson's Apple Store. > > Steve > > > **

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread mike
Ah, the obtuse on purpose ploy...you can't fool me. On 7/16/09, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:14 PM, mike wrote: >> Well when you *pay* for them that usually means you got them from a >> vendor. > > She spent $30,000 on tunes? Wow. I want her allowance. > > > **

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:15 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > I don't shop at *those* kinds of stores. What!! I'm talking about the Tyson's Apple Store. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, priv

Re: [CGUYS] STOP THE PEE TAX - was Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: I guess, as a free market con, I should support pay toilets instead, but this is one service I think the government should provide. That's getting mighty close to Socialism. You probably don't want to go there. That gets you on the slipp

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:14 PM, mike wrote: Well when you *pay* for them that usually means you got them from a vendor. She spent $30,000 on tunes? Wow. I want her allowance. * ** List info, subscription management, list r

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:11 PM, mike wrote: > Your parents probably didn't anoint you either.  From a young age, proving > yourself was expected, so for you normal. Good point and true. They didn't go around buying me all sorts of crap. They apparently did not fear that I would loathe them i

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:54 PM, db wrote: I resent a lack of info / guidance for a procedure that most anyone who really uses iTunes to any degree is absolutely going to need. Like a bank taking your money deposits but not giving you any way to transfer them reliably. "Gee ... they disappeare

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It was our culture plus expected behavior. Stewart At 05:00 PM 7/16/2009, you wrote: I was in school even a bit prior to that era, and I did not need to be educated in a classroom about how to behave when working on a job. It was instinctive with me. It wasn't play, it was work, even if fo

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 4:50 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I use cash whenever possible. No trail. I don't shop at *those* kinds of stores. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** pol

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread mike
Well when you *pay* for them that usually means you got them from a vendor. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:09 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:22 PM, mike wrote: > >> Perhaps his daughter realized for the price of a CD she can jam a 120 gigs >> of music onto a Zune the day she brings it

Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread mike
And just where is this info backed up in case your computer gets hit by a blimp? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: > My wife and I both use Firefox and know how to access Saved Passwords in > the Security tab of Options. Also handy when you revisit a site whose pw you > hav

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread mike
Your parents probably didn't anoint you either. From a young age, proving yourself was expected, so for you normal. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: > > >Several actually. And that was back in the 60's and 70

Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Steve at Verizon
My wife and I both use Firefox and know how to access Saved Passwords in the Security tab of Options. Also handy when you revisit a site whose pw you have forgotten. Tony B wrote: I think a much better solution would be to get them their own accounts. Writing down and sharing a password is a s

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:22 PM, mike wrote: Perhaps his daughter realized for the price of a CD she can jam a 120 gigs of music onto a Zune the day she brings it home. M$'s Ballmer says he needs to ask her where all that music came from (implying that he is not a good parent). http://www.the

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> Marketing types even use the term "owning the market." It is exactly > what they strive to do. Literally. It's called a metaphor, Tom. It's the same as a simile without using like or as to describe something. You're taking advice from marketing trolls now? Wouldn't an ice pick to the forehead

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM, mike wrote: > Yah, ipods aren't like that at all...right..yeah. iPods are treated just the same by many youngsters when they see their friends with them. Boy or girl hooks up with a mate who has an iPod and they'll likely want one as well. Break up and hook up

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: People are constantly complaining that schools aren't doing their job when it comes to education. But then they turn around and complain when their kids are given to much homework. It seems some parents believe kids learning starts at 8am and en

Re: [CGUYS] STOP THE PEE TAX - was Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Steve at Verizon
This here con supports that slogan. Have you seen that the State of Virginia wants to close its highway rest stops and offload the maintenance of rest rooms on McDonalds and other businesses along its highways. Why should a private business need to support a tour bus stopping for all to pee wit

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: >        Several actually. And that was back in the 60's and 70's before all > this touchy feely type education. I was in school even a bit prior to that era, and I did not need to be educated in a classroom about how to behave when working on

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: No one denied there isn't a market. It's just not something you can own, at least not in any literal sense. Marketing types even use the term "owning the market." It is exactly what they strive to do. Literally. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread mike
Yah, ipods aren't like that at all...right..yeah.. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:22 PM, mike wrote: > > > Perhaps his daughter realized for the price of a CD she can jam a 120 > gigs > > of music onto a Zune the day she brings it home. > >

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> Twist and turn all you like, markets exist. Are you being deliberately obtuse? > > The market is not given away - the patent holder has exclusive > > rights to offer a specific thing into the market. > > Playing word games does not change a thing. A pie vs. a slice of a > pie. A market vs. a

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:22 PM, mike wrote: > Perhaps his daughter realized for the price of a CD she can jam a 120 gigs > of music onto a Zune the day she brings it home. Or, just as likely, a boyfriend or girlfriend just got a Zune, so she's gotta get one too is she is at that impressionable

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> My retailer discount cards are in fake names. They can > maintain databases on the spending habits of these made up individuals > all they want to. At least I'm helping to create jobs. Some don't even require a name. PetsMart gave me a card and I never bothered to fill out the form. I still

Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Sue Cubic
NO WAY! I've just been through this. Survivors NEED a password and User ID list. There are even accounts that are not on home computers--phone accounts. If survivors don't know the "magic words", they can get nowhere in trying to resolve matters. It's quite a different matter when dealing

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > You missed the invisible /sarcasm tag. I kinda suspected it, but was actually posing a generic question about a lot ofstores in general and how they seem to like to portray themselves. Steve **

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread mike
Sounds like she escaped the Apple walled garden. She realized suddenly there was something called 'choice' and 'variety' out there. After buying 7 ipods myself, I decided when I need something new I will probably go with the sansa. I can get a 2 gig sansa for 70 bux, for less then 20 more I can

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Miles
Several actually. And that was back in the 60's and 70's before all this touchy feely type education. Oh wait, that stuff gets you arrested. I should say the understand/communicate in the way a phycologist would? That's not quite right either. Oh hell, it's like the saying on porn, you kno

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> I guess I'm surprised that Libertarians and their friends don't > object to this; they're paying for something they're not getting, and > they have no choice in the matter. You always have a choice. It just may not the one you want.

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> > Which is about as "exciting" as an Apple store.  You know, about as exciting > > as a Gap store. > > What the heck makes any store "exciting?" Does your heart actually > begin to race when you enter certain stores and your adrenalin begin > to pump? You missed the invisible /sarcasm tag.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> You keep digging yourself in deeper. So now you deny the existence of > intellectual property? Of course not. But I'm not the one conflating IP with the concept of markets. Honestly, it's going to take a bit more than putting "all the things you can't see or touch" into a Venn diagram. > T

[CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead

2009-07-16 Thread Tony B
I think a much better solution would be to get them their own accounts. Writing down and sharing a password is a serious security breach. Besides, are you really going to remember to do that every time you change your password? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Rich Schinnell wrote: > Remember: If

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:30 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: > Do people really believe that the expense of handling cash isn't passed > along in some form to the customers anyway? Any expense a store incurs is passed on to the consumer, including the toilet paper in the rest room. They even charge you

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > I never pay a fee to use a credit card (except for foreign currency > transactions). The credit card does not charge me for using their card. To > the contrary I get rebates from the card company as large as 3%. I get paid > $100s every year for

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Rich Schinnell
A word of caution: In my column for December 2008, I wrote about the problems of electronic payments via computer. Remember: If you are the computer person in your household and your significant other is not a computer person, please write down all your userids and passwords so that they can a

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread MrMike6by9
Some folks object to electronic payments systems because they believe the merchants are passing on the fees the banks and credit card companies charge in the form of higher prices. Maybe so, but the merchants who deal in cash also have costs relating to the safeguarding, counting, and depositing. I

[CGUYS] foreign

2009-07-16 Thread rleesimon
Yesterday, I fiddled and fiddled with the keyboard stuff and finally was able to type with accented characters (French.multi-keystrokes to order the character and then type the alpha) .today, rebooted, no joy.what's with that? Winxpprosp3, m$office1007ultimate with French language pack installed.?

Re: [CGUYS] silvery

2009-07-16 Thread rleesimon
I think it's remiss of the issuing agencies not to make the passport reliably unreadable when closed ...they claim to have done it but some show that to be untrue...hackers may not read your data but ID your country of origin for targeting...I am sure it will (or has already) happen (ed) !! ---

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread rleesimon
Adrenalin pumps when progeny picks out expensive items and wallet comes out of pocket!! -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Friendly neighbors? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: >

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Why would we object? We might not use the restroom in the merchant's establishment, but the cost for it is folded into the merchants cost of doing business and thus reflected in the price. Not every minor cost should be itemized or made a

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:51 PM, mike wrote: And we all know economists agree on everything... Some things are very basic. It is the philosophers you really have to watch out for. * ** List info, subscription management, li

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Jordan wrote: I'm sure you know that you can tell iTunes to leave your audio files alone and where they are. That said, I don't like iTunes either, for lots of reasons. I don't like any of these modern apps that put all the files in one huge pile somewhere. We're

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:50 PM, mike wrote: The idea is MS would build a store right next to the apple store, see one, you'd see the other. The now defunct Ekerd Drugs built stores next to CVS'. This made it easy to compare and confirm that CVS was better. **

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: Talking to sharp people about the good stuff they sell can be satisfying and stimulating to some of us. Sounds like an Apple Store. * ** List info, subscription management, lis

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 10:00 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Many places of business will charge an additional fee if an ATM card is used to electronically pay for a purchase. Credit cards, another electronic means of payment, typically charge interest. Many banks, mine included, do not charge anyt

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: No - it is a limited protection for specific intellectual property. I can have a patent for a specific type of flying toy, but not protection for all toys that fly - and the latter is the market - those buyers and sellers concerned with fly

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Jordan
t.piwowar wrote: Imagine how unlivable it would be if the current market meltdown were repeated every year or two. What do you mean? This was their idea of a free market. The rich don't care and the poor become homeless. So what? ***

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Constance Warner
Does anyone out there know the LEGAL STATUS of computerized records for electronic transactions? Has the law caught up with the 21st century yet? Just asking, because I don't know. If you get audited by the IRS, have a case in small claims court, have a disagreement with an insurance comp

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Jordan
I'm sure you know that you can tell iTunes to leave your audio files alone and where they are. That said, I don't like iTunes either, for lots of reasons. I don't like any of these modern apps that put all the files in one huge pile somewhere. We're supposed to use tags or something to categoriz

Re: [CGUYS] silvery

2009-07-16 Thread b_s-wilk
> No they haven't. Calm down. If you feel danger in these places you're > being forced to travel to, then you should consider a new job. > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: >> > People have been targeted through their RFID tagged passports in places like Yes they have. So, yo

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jordan
Just like so many other places in our sick society, retailers go to great lengths to be extreme and super stimulating in an effort to be "exciting." I tend to find such places repulsive. Talking to sharp people about the good stuff they sell can be satisfying and stimulating to some of us. ph

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread db
It makes a 100 % difference in moving your iTunes library to an external drive whether you have a managed or unmanaged library. If you don't get the difference in procedures just right... poof goes your playlist that you may have been compiling for several years. IT professional that I am, fo

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread mike
The kind of people that don't think apple is their way of life and that they are just a hardware company. The idea is MS would build a store right next to the apple store, see one, you'd see the other. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) < mark.sny...@ngc.com> wrote: > What

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:32 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: What the heck makes any store "exciting?" Does your heart actually begin to race when you enter certain stores and your adrenalin begin to pump? Apple store can do that. Zune store, I doubt it. M$ won't do much better than the Gateway

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread mike
And we all know economists agree on everything... On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:01 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > > Not "by my logic." What I stated is the way it is viewed by economists. > > * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Matthew Taylor
Why would we object? We might not use the restroom in the merchant's establishment, but the cost for it is folded into the merchants cost of doing business and thus reflected in the price. Not every minor cost should be itemized or made a la carte. We do have a choice, most of us preferre

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Adil Godrej wrote: And that is the problem with electronic cashing of checks. Completely electronic transactions are a little better: at least it is your bank against theirs. Good example. The paper check was less secure and less auditable than an EFT would hav

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Matthew Taylor
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:01 PM, t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: By your logic if I invent a widget or widgets and process by which they are used that grants a new or vastly improved capability and there by gain a monopoly I am abusing a commons - a commons th

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Well, my daughter's iPod has died. She wants a Zune. Not another iPod. So will you let her out of the attic now? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, arch

Re: [CGUYS] Apple asks MS to stop running laptop hunter ads

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > As to the phony cost comparisons, I recently price compared high-end laptops > for an NLE application. The Dell was a few $hundred more than the Apple. The > HP cost twice as much as the Apple. The fit and finish and software > integration was fa

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread rleesimon
It's like when a Chinese restaurant opens next door to another one ...voila!! Chinatown!! -Original Message- From: Jordan [mailto:jor17...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Friendly neighbors? It might just expose more people to the Apple store. Snyder, Mark

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Constance Warner
It's true that the credit card companies and the banks provide services to merchants and their customers, but for a price: interest and other fees for the customers, and fees for the merchants. But, in the form of higher prices [which merchants must charge to cover the cost of credit card f

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread Adil Godrej
I don't know which amount is larger: bounced checks or fraudulent credit card charges (or even those who don't pay their credit card bills). Both cost all of us money. When we subscribe to a common thing (checks, credit cards, paper money), we also agree to be responsible for the risks (bounced

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > Which is about as "exciting" as an Apple store.  You know, about as exciting > as a Gap store. What the heck makes any store "exciting?" Does your heart actually begin to race when you enter certain stores and your adrenalin begin to pump?

Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: Because I need permanent paper records of investments. Computer data is just too volatile / fragile. Computer records are just backup, in case the paper records are destroyed. That's not impossible, but low risk. You do not need to and pa

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jordan
Because it will be next door. Everyone isn't the same. Never mind the same as you. I'm sure there are lots of people that have never been near an Apple store and might go in if they see it next door. Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: What kind of people have never been exposed to an Apple store?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: A market is a collection of inputs, outputs and information. No one can own it as there is nothing to own. You keep digging yourself in deeper. So now you deny the existence of intellectual property? There is plenty of case law to sustain the

Re: [CGUYS] Apple asks MS to stop running laptop hunter ads

2009-07-16 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: The MS COO could be full of it, but it's very amusing if true. That's a silly story. So is the idea of M$ opening retail stores. I can see in my mind's eye the long line of disgruntled Vista users lined up around the block to get advice from

Re: [CGUYS] Friendly neighbors?

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> > Windows/Zune-Mart? How exciting! Which is about as "exciting" as an Apple store. You know, about as exciting as a Gap store. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmn

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> Not "by my logic." What I stated is the way it is viewed by *some* economists. FTFY > A patent is exactly a limited grant of monopoly rights. It is a deal > made between society and inventors so that the society may benefit > from the work of inventors. Each contributes something of value so >

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Bans Palm Pre from iTunes

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Wright
> I think you have a problem understanding what economists call the > Commons. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_commons > > Markets are a common good from which we all benefit and which we must > all protect (or suffer the consequences). Each according to their needs, eh Thomas? You seriou

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