Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 8/20/2013 9:41 PM, John Saunders wrote: For Android I have found that AquaMail is a very reliable IMAP client that works perfectly well with my Courier install. I have SSL port 993 exposed on my firewall and am able to access my email via the cellular network wherever I am. I tried a

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-21 Thread Anders
On 2013-08-21 16:35, Bowie Bailey wrote: K-9 Mail works well for me. Is there a problem with the standard Email.apk that is usually included in Android? A (less secure?) variant is available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965468

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-21 Thread John Saunders
Anders wrote: Is there a problem with the standard Email.apk that is usually included in Android? A (less secure?) variant is available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965468 I've had issues with it becoming very slow trying to deal with my INBOX. Although haven't

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-20 Thread Harry Duncan
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.comwrote: I don't have any figures or stats. But everywhere I look, I see no signs of life. On Usenet, comp.mail.imap used to carry respectable daily traffic a while ago. It's a ghost town now, maybe a dozen posts a year, for

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-20 Thread John Saunders
2013 9:25 PM To: courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use Am 16.08.2013 12:58, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: As far as smartphones, the elephant in the room is Android, and Android's gmail client uses who knows what to talk to Google. But whatever

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-16 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 16/Aug/2013 04:55:10 +0200 Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 22:04 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I wish I could say otherwise, but that's what it is. The flip side of the coin is that IMAP is a mature protocol. It does its job, and there is no viable replacement for it.

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Alessandro Vesely writes: On Fri 16/Aug/2013 04:55:10 +0200 Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 22:04 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I wish I could say otherwise, but that's what it is. The flip side of the coin is that IMAP is a mature protocol. It does its job, and there is no

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-16 Thread Mark Constable
On 16/08/13 21:25, Manuel Schneider wrote: The new way to go (IMHO) is to use an Exchange / ActiveSync interface. People are used to sync contacts and calendars along with their mail. Yes, most of our lost business clients have moved to Exchange servers. Totally agree, generic

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/16/2013 04:25 AM, Manuel Schneider wrote: On desktop platforms Thunderbird etc. are still the way to go (Lightning can use Tine calendars via WebDAV / CalDAV, the SoGo Connector sync Thunderbird addressbooks via WebDAV / CardDAV). I've started deploying SOGo this year. I'm pretty happy

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Gordon Messmer writes: On 08/16/2013 04:25 AM, Manuel Schneider wrote: On desktop platforms Thunderbird etc. are still the way to go (Lightning can use Tine calendars via WebDAV / CalDAV, the SoGo Connector sync Thunderbird addressbooks via WebDAV / CardDAV). I've started deploying SOGo

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Mark Constable writes: On 16/08/13 11:18, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Anders writes: Perhaps IMAP will one day evolve a little :) Overall, IMAP has been withering, and in decline, and I'd be surprised if the trend reverses. That's fascinating comment Sam, coming from someone who would have

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-15 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 22:04 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I don't have any figures or stats. But everywhere I look, I see no signs of life. On Usenet, comp.mail.imap used to carry respectable daily traffic a while ago. It's a ghost town now, maybe a dozen posts a year, for the last 4-5

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-15 Thread Mark Constable
On 16/08/13 12:04, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I wish I could say otherwise, but that's what it is. The flip side of the coin is that IMAP is a mature protocol. It does its job, and there is no viable replacement for it. As long as there's still a need for a standardized client/server mail

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Lindsay Haisley writes: I'm really distressed to hear this. I run a small mail hosting service and recommend IMAP to my customers over POP3 all the time. My server's spam management system relies on special IMAP mail folders which are dumped into or routed out of SpamAssassin with various

Re: [courier-users] IMAP in general use

2013-08-15 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Mark Constable writes: On 16/08/13 12:04, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I wish I could say otherwise, but that's what it is. The flip side of the coin is that IMAP is a mature protocol. It does its job, and there is no viable replacement for it. As long as there's still a need for a