Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 490 -- E VOTE

2024-05-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
: +30 2810391488 -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100,

Re: [Crm-sig] [NEW ISSUE]: missing inverse labels P81, P82, P171, P172

2024-03-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
lt directed. So, "we should define inverse properties" is not the real question. It is only if the inverse label is of any use in a semantic graph or query as starting point. best, Martin On 2/8/2024 4:13 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Eleni, I'd suggest not to assig

Re: [Crm-sig] New ISSUE: Quantifiers of P140,P141,P177

2024-03-19 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
, Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 24 January 2024 19:09 *To:* crm-sig *Subject:* [Crm-sig] New ISSUE: Quantifiers of P140,P141,P177 Dear All, I remember a discussion about

[Crm-sig] New Issue: Harmonizing CRMbase logically with CRMgeo

2024-02-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
)* P170(x,y) ⇒E61(x) P170(x,y) ⇒E52(y) P170(x, y) ⇒P81i(x, y) ∧P82i(x, y) *P170(x,y) ⇒ **(¬∃z)[E2(z) **⋀ P4(z,y)] *Excluding an instance of Temporal Entity to happen *at* this Time-Span Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head

[Crm-sig] New Issue, inverse: Harmonizing CRMgeo logically with CRMbase

2024-02-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
acetime_Primitive Range: SP7 <#_SP7_Declarative_Spacetime> Declarative Spacetime Volume *to be suproperty of P169, OR: **P168(x,y) ⇒SP6(x) * (SP6_Declarative _Place) *P169(x,y) ⇒SP7(y) P170(x,y) **⇒SP10(y) *All the best, martin On 2/25/2024 8:40 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All, In the co

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue, inverse: Harmonizing CRMgeo logically with CRMbase

2024-02-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
acetime_Primitive Range: SP7 <#_SP7_Declarative_Spacetime> Declarative Spacetime Volume *to be suproperty of P169, OR: **P168(x,y) ⇒SP6(x) *  (SP6_Declarative _Place) *P169(x,y) ⇒SP7(y) P170(x,y) **⇒SP10(y) *All the best, martin On 2/25/2024 8:40 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All, In the co

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 657: new example for P32 used general technique

2024-02-19 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 656 Homework

2024-02-19 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
2024 14:15, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: > Accepted! > > But, it seems it should be: > > "This property identifies an instance of E53 Place that falls wholly > within the extent of another instance of E53 Place, where both places > are

Re: [Crm-sig] [NEW ISSUE]: missing inverse labels P81, P82, P171, P172

2024-02-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
abels). Best, Eleni ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 656 Homework

2024-02-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Accepted! But, it seems it should be: "This property identifies an instance of E53 Place that falls wholly within the extent of another instance of E53 Place, where both places are defined in the same geometric system, i.e. they are at rest to each

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 656 Homework

2024-02-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
place at (witnessed), /from E4 Period through P161 has spatial projection, E53 Place, P89 falls within to E53 Place, where both places are defined in the same geometric system. Stephen Stead Mob: +44 (0)7802 755 013 ste...@paveprime.com *From:*Crm-sig *On Behalf Of *Martin Doerr via Crm-sig

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 656 Homework,

2024-02-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, We just observed that the FOL statements of P89 should also contain the formulation that both places need to be at rest to each other (i.e., fall into the same geometric system). This needs to be checked for all place to place relations. On 2/1/2024 9:04 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm

[Crm-sig] Issue 656 Homework

2024-02-01 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
(E53) /falls within/ the area of Salisbury Plain (E53). (Pryor, 2016) In first-order logic: P89(x,y) ⇒E53(x) P89(x,y) ⇒E53(y) [P89(x,y) ∧P89(y,z)] ⇒ P89(x,z) P89(x,x) -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural

[Crm-sig] New ISSUE: Quantifiers of P140,P141,P177

2024-01-24 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
sigments for *ISSUE 602*, this *must *be resolved. best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foun

Re: [Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
in order to be able to find the original passage, read it, translate it and cogitate on what was really meant there (the propositions encoded). But perhaps you have another use in mind?  Best, George On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 7:25 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All,

[Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, I suggest to create an example using Bekker numbers. They constitute excellent examples of identifiers for propositional content. See https://guides.library.duq.edu/c.php?g=1030408=7468217 -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: link related examples

2023-12-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
or overlap or inclusion. The current city further covers completely previous up to the Roman settlement, and was continuously inhabited. Best, Marin Rgds SdS Stephen Stead Mob: +44 (0)7802 755 013 ste...@paveprime.com *From:*Crm-sig *On Behalf Of *Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* Wednesday

[Crm-sig] New Issue: link related examples

2023-12-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
frame". It is very complicated to find these out by browsing! I propose "[example connects to P146]" and vice versa "[example connects to P145]" Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Info

[Crm-sig] Editorial Issue

2023-12-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Hierarchy and in the declaration of E92 is obsolete. To be corrected with that in the property declaration of P133. No decision needed. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information

[Crm-sig] Issue: Replace fictitious example

2023-12-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
). "Harry Benson's photos of the Beatles sparked career" <http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/harry-benson-s-photos-of-the-beatles-sparked-career-1.2428648>. CBC News. Accessed 4 December 2023. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] New Issue, missing part of type

2023-10-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
nting missing parts? Opinions? Best, Martin -- ----  Dr. Martin Doerr  Honorary Head of the  Center for Cultural Informatics  Information Systems Laboratory  Institute of Computer Science  Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)  N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,  GR70013 Herak

[Crm-sig] New Issue, missing part of type

2023-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
-- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece

[Crm-sig] Issue 519, use of "preferred identifier" and "current permanent location"

2023-10-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
to a wider audience. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

[Crm-sig] Fwd: Issue 576 (about ... entity of type)

2023-10-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Heraklion, Grece email: tsoulo...@isc.forth.gr, eleni.crm....@gmail.com Tel: +30 2810391488 -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (F

[Crm-sig] Issue 482 Vulnerability Belief

2023-10-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
n general, e.g., for defining an "observable situation", we need a list of possible properties. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory I

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-05 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
that some subclasses of temporal entity can not be, ontologically, temporal, or some subclasses of conceptual object can be, ontologically, other than conceptual. That would be a logical contradiction. Best, George On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 10:18 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: I thi

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
me Q12i is approximated by SP7 Declarative Spacetime Volume P169i spacetime volume is defined by E95 Spacetime Primitive >> >> E52 Time-Span Q13i is approximated by SP10 Declarative Time-Span P170i time is defined by E61 Time Primitive >> >> Best,

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
were introduced now? -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassili

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ime Volume P169i spacetime volume is defined by E95 Spacetime Primitive E52 Time-Span Q13i is approximated by SP10 Declarative Time-Span P170i time is defined by E61 Time Primitive Best, Wolfgang Am 25.09.2023 um 11:20 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig : Dear All, I propose a shortcut in CRMg

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
er be entirely accurate anyway. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: Completing the list of shortcuts in CRMbase

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 490: how to model a file [HW reminder]

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
terize them by durance of use? With kind regards, Daria Hookk *От:* Crm-sig от имени Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Отправлено:* 16 сентября 2023 г. 0:08:46 *Кому:* crm-sig *Тема:* [Crm-sig] Issue 490: how to model a file [HW re

[Crm-sig] PLease delete last message inGreek!

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
On 9/25/2023 12:28 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Here some corrections: -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation

Re: [Crm-sig] Διπλωματική

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
of the period. If you simply want to say the Event "falls within" the Period, you only assign a timespan to the Period, not the event, because this confuses your "provenance of knowledge", is this clear?, Otherwise, we discuss it in more detail, it is foundational to the CRM.

[Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, I propose a shortcut in CRMgeo for E53 Place P189i is approximated by: E53 Place P168 place is defined by : E94 Space Primitive, for obvious practical reasons. It can have the same label. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Urgent: status of CRMinf, CRMsci, CRMtex, CRMdig, CRMba, CRMsoc

2023-09-24 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
wanted –CRMsoc What is the current status? Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 614: previously (Re: New Issue (if not hidden in 645): Content of Proposition Set)

2023-09-17 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
te the FOL connection between single property assignment and I4. Best, Martin On 9/10/2023 9:52 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All, I suggest to discuss the meaning of I4 Proposition Set, also related to issue 550, 510, 610 Two problems: A) the content model. If we follow the *logic of P190*, an

[Crm-sig] Issue 490: how to model a file [HW reminder]

2023-09-15 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
se identity or higher symbolic form. Partners of this homework please comment if I have missed something! Best, Martin Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Issue 490: how to model a file [HW reminder] Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:35:38 +0300 From: Martin Doerr To:

[Crm-sig] Issue 635 (property quantifier mismatches) and P191

2023-09-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
oulo...@isc.forth.gr, eleni.crm@gmail.com Tel: +30 2810391488 -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technolo

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 579 (how to model the focus or view of an observation)

2023-09-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
k for volunteers to work on it. -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

[Crm-sig] New Issue (if not hidden in 645): Content of Proposition Set

2023-09-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
position Sets with a human readable text, rather than a CRM compatible RDF model. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Sci

[Crm-sig] HW issue 556

2023-09-05 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
; or "Rome" unambiguous. Therefore the above may lead to a minimal vocabulary recommended by the CRM for E4 Period and Spacetime Volume I attach the Alexandria terms. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for

[Crm-sig] HW Issue 630: redraft the scope note of P38 deassigned

2023-09-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
- Improvements? Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 615 (scope note of E13 Attribute Assignment)

2023-08-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
m Tel: +30 2810391488 -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Pl

Re: [Crm-sig] E-VOTE: LRMoo R10 is member of (has member)

2023-08-01 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technolo

[Crm-sig] CRM applications

2023-05-19 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
i/publications/2021/hyvonen-sampo-model-2021.bib>pdf <https://seco.cs.aalto.fi/publications/2021/hyvonen-sampo-model-2021.pdf>link <https://doi.org/10.3233/SW-223034> Many of the "Sampos" use CIDOC CRM -based data models. All the best, Martin -- -

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Statements about Statements.

2023-05-18 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
://enterprise-knowledge.com/rdf-what-is-it-and-why-do-i-need-it/ best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Statements about Statements.

2023-05-15 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
You are all welcome! I'll send you soon an outline of what I have in mind. All the best, Martin n 5/14/2023 10:55 PM, Dominic Oldman wrote: Hi Martin, I would like to be involved. Thanks, Dominic On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 19:34, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Dominic, all, Yes, I

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Statements about Statements.

2023-05-14 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
odelling now depends on a particular technology?  Can someone provide some clarification on this? Which solution is tech independent? Are they all independent of this tech discussion? One is at least. D On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 16:18, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Robert, We have

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note [HW reminder]

2023-05-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
l effect and the starting of the device, but the device ticking can be regarded as part of the triggered process. All the best, Martin Best, Wolfgang Am 30.04.2023 um 17:56 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig : Dear Wolfgang, Your questions well-taken, but please do not seek a logical surrogate o

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ce! Cheers, G On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 1:25 PM Martin Doerr wrote: Dear George, I agree with you below about the historical aspects. The annotation model has the same historical aspect, but is not limited to a single link. Let us discuss!

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
. Cheers, George On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 12:27 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Francesco, This is an excellent paper. I cite: "However, reification has no formal semantics, and leads to a high increase in the number of triples, hence, it does not scale well. &qu

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
one or the other form of existing RDF reifications practices seems to be the good way to go. Best Francesco Le 10.05.23 à 18:48, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a écrit : Dear All, I suggest to resolve the issue of referring to the provenance of .1 properties more specifically: Solution a: Add properties

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
n identify the part of that activity that the person carried out and assert a role classification on it via P2_has_type. Rob On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:44 AM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I don't think it is correct to make

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
of a particular individual in an activity, we can identify the part of that activity that the person carried out and assert a role classification on it via P2_has_type. Rob On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:44 AM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I don't thin

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
attern -- to assert a role of a particular individual in an activity, we can identify the part of that activity that the person carried out and assert a role classification on it via P2_has_type. Rob On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:44 AM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote:

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
__ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig

Re: [Crm-sig] PC0_Typed_CRM_Property in CRMpc

2023-05-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
------ Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013 Heraklion,C

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Core and Application Models

2023-05-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
l procedures associated with the relationship between them". This should also be a didactic goal. Best, Martin. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Inst

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 588 Implementing the .1 Properties of Base and Extensions in RDF

2023-05-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
astira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Hono

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE Implementing .2 Properties in RDF

2023-05-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
sts.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- George Bruseker, PhD Chief Executive Officer Takin.solutions Ltd. https://www.takin.solutions/ ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note PRINCIPLES

2023-04-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, By the way, I think I just made a statement below about principles. Would you regard this as noteworthy as principles? Best, Martin On 4/30/2023 6:36 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Wolfgang, Your questions well-taken, but please do not seek a logical surrogate of reality. It does

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note [HW reminder]

2023-04-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
d recover landslide examples from the European InGeoClouds project. Good examples could also be some houses falling down at the seaside around Santa Barbara coast in California, because of landing erosion approaching them. All the best, Martin Best, Wolfgang Am 20.04.2023 um 14:01 sch

[Crm-sig] Issue_510_Belief_Adoption working document

2023-04-21 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
t is aware of a good example. Feedback welcome! Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas

[Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note [HW reminder]

2023-04-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
t al., 2008). The 1966 flood in Florence /triggered/ mould growth on books stored in flooded library rooms (Rubinstein, N., 1966) In First Order Logic: O13(x,y) ⇒E5(x) O13(x,y) ⇒E5(y) **Best, Martin* * -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honor

Re: [Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510

2023-04-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ely, Daria *От:* Crm-sig от имени Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Отправлено:* 11 апреля 2023 г. 15:32:32 *Кому:* crm-sig *Тема:* [Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510 Dear All, Here my homework with a real belief  adoption. I7 Belie

[Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510

2023-04-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
].] See: https://www.britishmuseum.org/blog/who-was-nero, By Francesca Bologna, Nero Project Curator, Publication date: 22 April 2021. accessed 4/10/2023 -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Labora

[Crm-sig] Illustrating Presence, Issue 523

2023-03-26 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
, but the content has not yet been published. These uses of Presence allow for collecting material from people around important social developments. I do not have access to such cases, and would need help to find them. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-14 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
types, or "appearing within" Groups. The sense of "appears in" does not make claims that cannot be related to evidence. Opinions? On 3/10/2023 9:47 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: I agree. I think there is still an open discussion how to document such things, but the r

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
- *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Franco Niccolucci via Crm-sig *Sent:* 10 March 2023 07:48 *To:* Martin Doerr *Cc:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group Thank you all for your comments and contributions. None of the solutions

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
a species surviving. I agree with Franco. Best, Martin On 3/9/2023 8:00 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I think this is quite overstretching what an activity is. Of course we can make quick and dirty use of any class. I cannot imagine, how an "All Tango Performances"

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] New CRMsci e-vote: label for S23

2023-03-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
CRMsci. We are very nearly there. All the best, Thanasis ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head

Re: [Crm-sig] New e-vote for CRMsci: examples for position measurement

2023-02-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
concluding version 2.0. All the best, Thanasis and Athina ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Hea

Re: [Crm-sig] New issue: property quantification mismatches

2023-02-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
-vKigz5Lm3H69nrlbk2Xfe8gioun87COJmKFfXY/edit#gid=307539608 Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head

Re: [Crm-sig] Property quantifications

2023-01-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
://docs.google.com/document/d/11bue0Rakrekmcke-MkZqprfq0FXy5LkRMTl_VDynS5E/edit# Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] E-vote for CRMsci 2.0

2023-01-07 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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[Crm-sig] Seasons Greetings

2022-12-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, Best seasons greetings to all of you, and a Happy New Year, hopefully with more peace, more human respect and more awareness of the cultural values of all nations. I am hoping to see many of you in our next meetings. Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] new ISSUE: O13 "triggers" scope note

2022-12-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] P133 spatiotemporally separated from

2022-12-17 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

2022-12-16 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
, George -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

2022-12-15 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ere will be no abuse in the sense I, Francesco and LRM propose? Best, Martin So I believe that this does not solve the problem as stated - that E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation does not have a description outside of the RDFS document. Rob On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 3:54 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig

[Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

2022-12-14 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
modelling principles reminded by Martin. And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class. Best Francesco -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework for Issue 624

2022-12-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-12-01 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
and we add P125(x,y,w) ⇐ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧  P2(z,y)] I hope this is correct. Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 30 November 2022 16:11 *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 609 Homework

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
for this analysis Martin. I would argue that this is for issue 610 - I have included it in the working document for that issue to discuss. All the best, Thanasis On 22/11/2022 17:43, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, "In the 54th CIDOC CRM & 47th FRBR/LRMoo SIG Meeting, upon d

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
onal FOL axiom would have to be added: P125(x,y,w) ⇔ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧  P2(z,y)]" *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 30 November 2022 14:35 *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [C

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 613 Inverse shortcuts

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
)]' are not ideal in a KB since the process to  find a possible z is time consuming or worse. For an efficiency point of view we should try to avoid these constructs. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
=H4sIAONgFuLUz9U3MC1KKshT4tVP1zc0TM4uS8s2LrbUUspOttIvyywuTcyJTywqQWJmFpdYlecXZRcvYpXzKM3NzcxLT8osSlFIzEtRCEgsLs7Mz0vLyS9PLSoGAIh-wfhh=X=2ahUKEwiZlaabgNb7AhVJs6QKHUxQCjEQtq8DegQIGRAH=1637=989=1.82#imgrc=h3dJnCUjqXZDvM On 11/30/2022 3:35 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Christian-Emil, I agree with your precise analysis, except for: A)  I'd argue that P138.1 mode of representation is indeed identical to P62.1

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
tps://docs.google.com/document/d/1kd-zCO8e00WoKWb-9VAm96ECDEA2O_1iFI6kpgcuCnE> Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr.

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 616: shortcuts in P50 has current keeper, P52 has current owner, P55 has current location

2022-11-28 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Digging for a unknown issue, help needed

2022-11-26 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
has modified (was modified by) I remember that we had a discussion about this, and may be a decision is hidden somewhere. Best, Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 25 November 2022 18:

Re: [Crm-sig] Digging for a unknown issue, help needed

2022-11-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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[Crm-sig] ISSUE 609 Homework

2022-11-22 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
practice will be to associate an observation with the negative property. So far my ideas. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Sc

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 586,557 business model and name

2022-11-21 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
al objects, in particular suspect items. Expert opinions, if possible, from the British Museum about illicit trafficking. All partners on this mailing list are kindly invited to look for other data that could be used. Best wishes, Martin -- -------- Dr. Ma

[Crm-sig] Issue 533 HW, polysemic concepts

2022-11-19 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, See Achille's and my homework for Issue 533, to be added to the modelling principles as real life example from CRM SIG discussions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JhXMH3z8FW55XcyQcQ-XNud1jctTQ-naOf6VJuNC70Y/edit?pli=1 -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] Issue 294 Missing!

2022-11-17 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, am I correct that Issue 294, " * AP29 appears in * AP30 restricted to * AP31 typical for was never entered into the CRMarcheo text? Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Inform

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ck, as far as I can understand, to the modelling principles reminded by Martin. And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class. Best Francesco Le 09.11.22 à 20:13, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a écrit : Dear bo

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
that "The Big Apple" is in English with the precise semantics of P72, or that it is not a Name for that Place? Rob On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Gordon, "The Library of Congress has only recently stopped assigning gender to the referant of

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