Dear all,
I have been tagged in the HW for 529
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-529-deprecation-of-frbroo-f20-and-f25
This HW is to provide a new home for deprecated classes from FRBRoo to move
to CRMSoc. This issue will continue to wait until we have the introduction
of base classes and
YES
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:25 PM Øyvind Eide via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
> YES
>
> Am 18.06.2021 um 11:47 schrieb Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig <
> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>:
>
> Dear all,
>
> This issue is about agreeing a rationale and a template based on which
> CRMbase and CRM
YES
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:24 PM Øyvind Eide via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
> YES
>
> Am 18.06.2021 um 11:56 schrieb Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig <
> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>:
>
> Dear all,
>
> This issue is about agreeing a template based on which the specification
> documents of
I imagine I'm running fast at windmills here but I already prepared a
homework for this several sigs ago in which I list dozens of collections of
sounds. There is documentation and research on sound in CH.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziNlZNCAYxAATNP7jycBPKT-v9Rhg4RUHt4dlpPS4-c/edit
What
I tried to post my HW but was blocked by the unreasonably low filter. I
post again now linking in a google doc.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RvKGqeB5GpDqDwpLIZr9c64uFxlOlqUNGVSK1QyUyP4/edit
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Dear all,
This is the provisional text for issue 310 which will be revised by MD, SS
and TV if time allows. Please feel free to consult as well in case you
would like to make any comment.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uOkQadeEkXIOjbZlvk5gHCsBT8rOUMPrFIoJwfwo9ks/edit
Hopefully the text
How to formulate and resolve issues:
here is the updated text for that
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qFCzMCuKWGBlsudP8xbDuAXaExd8bAFg4BZBBCWrPnY/edit
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Dear all,
I, too, fully support this important initiative and hope to learn much from
colleagues in the discussion. The opening discussion was already very
fruitful to start us off at looking at fundamental issues to take into
account in the method of creating ontologies.
The shared zotero
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I would like to follow from the overall perspective (protocols, guidelines).
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:45 AM Massoomeh Niknia via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please count on me as well for the Persian version.
>
> Kind regards,
> Massoomeh
>
> On 9. Mar 2021, at 10:30,
Dear all,
I am working on a conservation science modelling project in which the users
document also their machinery. Something that comes up is that they want to
document the kind of property or variable that is measured by the machine.
This is a property of the machine, what it can do (dunamis).
Hi Martin,
I'm also pressed for time but above wrote out an argument.
Best,
George
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:17 AM Martin Doerr wrote:
> Hi George,
>
> I'd prefer to let the biologists talk about that. To my best knowledge
> of real cases, this is a much debated question. For the time being,
E1 Res that is disjoint from LRM-E6 Agent. There was
> talk of creating some guidelines for this at one point, but I have not
> followed the issue since then.
>
> Pat
>
> Pat Riva
>
> Associate University Librarian, Collection Services
>
> Concordia University
andard that is widely
> used for biodiversity databases, haven't seen definitions of this kind
> of relationships, but maybe I am missing things
> or I misunderstood something
>
> BRs
> Athina
>
> Στις 2021-10-12 10:02, George Bruseker via Crm-sig έγραψε:
> > Hi all,
&g
Hi Martin,
I think Rob listed in the introduction to the issue the use cases of
documentation of individual action of animals.
It would seem that natural scientists don't only study species but also
individuals.
Here's a smattering of pieces culled from casual reading in the past few
weeks with
Dear all,
In some SIG, I was charged with finding out how to give the citation for
the examples given in E10 from the Getty Provenance Index.
This is the preferred Citation style:
Getty Provenance Index®,
https://piprod.getty.edu/starweb/pi/servlet.starweb?path=pi/pi.web,
accessed -MM-DD.
Dear all,
In preparation for the discussion of non-human actors as related to use
cases arising in Linked.Art (inter alia), Rob and I have sketched some
ideas back and forth to try to find a monotonic was to add the agency of
animals in the first instance into CRM (proceeding in an empirical
Hi all,
I wonder about the phrasing of the examples (rather than the substance).
>
> * The Capital of Russia (E4) [the capital of Russia is an administrative
> unit that moved in historical times from Moscow to St Petersburg and again
> back to Moscow. This examplifies and administrative unit
Dear all,
I was charged with HW from issue 528.
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-528-guidelines-and-protocols-for-translating-cidoc-crm
"HW: GB to determine the most suitable place on the website for the
translations and the translation guidelines to appear under."
I hereby link my proposal
Dear all,
In this HW I was charged with:
"checklists must be implemented periodically and a guideline on how they're
to be kept up to date must be incorporated in GBs HW for issue 354.
this particular checklist to appear on the website"
It is my proposal that this document appear in the
Dear all,
In the last SIG I was charged with undertaking the incorporation of
Martin's notes on the issues management procedure document.
The issue is documented here:
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-354-management-of-issues-and-workflow
The document was not accepted pending inclusion of
Dear all,
The next CRM SIG and CRM SIG / FRBR joint meeting rapidly approaches. As
usual, the CRM SIG welcomes presentations from the CIDOC CRM community
regarding uses for, projects related to and research on / about CIDOC CRM.
If you have a presentation that you would like to share with the
Dear all,
The next CRM SIG and CRM SIG / FRBR joint meeting are rapidly approaching.
As usual, the CRM SIG welcomes proposals for new issues related to the
standard to be discussed / debated at the CRM SIG meeting.
In order to raise a new issue, you have simply to write to the CRM SIG list
(the
Hi all,
I think this is a fruitful and interesting topic to take up. While it will
undoubtedly take a good deal of work to tease out appropriate, objectively
grounded modelling, I think this is an area that long needed looking at.
Since we have 7.1.1 firmly under our feet, this seems a very nice
Dear all,
I am manually correcting some ontology files (horror) and changing the
nomenclature from the previous names for O19 which were:
has found object
(was object found by)
up until version 1.2.6 of the document.
Then it changed, rightly (mostly), to:
encountered object
was object
>
> vann:preferredNamespacePrefix "vir" ;vann:preferredNamespaceUri
> "http://w3id.org/vir#; ;
>
> Best,
>
> Nicola
>
> --
> Nicola Carboni
> Visual Contagions
> Digital Humanities - dh.unige.ch
> Faculté des Lettres
> Université de Genèv
that one can
> describe
> > the type of something without specifying the individual. It is very
> > economical in conservation where we want to avoid describing
> > hundreds of
> > individuals of similar types.
> >
> > We are still baking
yes
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:37 PM Donatella Fiorani via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
> Yes
>
> Il giorno sab 27 nov 2021 alle ore 21:29 Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <
> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> ha scritto:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> It is a great pleasure and honor for us to announce that the
Dear all,
On behalf of the CRM SIG, I am sorry to announce that our intention to hold
the next meeting (Feb 8-11, 2022) in person in Heraklion, Crete, hosted by
the Centre for Cultural Informatics at ICS-FORTH, will not go ahead as
planned.
Given the present covid circumstances in Greece, Europe
Dear all,
It is a pleasure to announce the release of the CIDOC CRM Game - Digital
Edition to the public. The aim of this game is to support the teaching and
learning of formal ontologies in general and the CIDOC CRM in particular.
The CIDOC CRM Game - Digital Edition is a single player card
Dear all,
Here is an interview with Olivier Marlet by Humanum on the interest and use
of a digital game for teaching and learning CIDOC CRM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZF34982h-M
Best,
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better phrasing, 'about a particular thing that is known categorically'
Eg Sales Record about 'Sale Event'
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 6:53 PM George Bruseker
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Recently work is on-going on a new property 'represents thing of type'
> which is distinct from 'represents'
Dear all,
Recently work is on-going on a new property 'represents thing of type'
which is distinct from 'represents' (again that particular vs categorical
distinction).
https://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-476-pxx-represents-entity-of-type
I am confronted with cases of an information object being
Hi all,
I have situations in which I have events where the data curators describe
events for which they have generic knowledge of the outcome: sold,
completed, incomplete, this sort of thing. So there is knowledge but it is
not knowledge of the particular next event but of a general kind of
Dear all,
I am wondering if anybody else struggles with what official namespace ot
use for the CRM extensions. I'm not really sure how the situation stands.
Should the minisites for each extension have a prominent place where they
display the namespaces just so we all follow the same procedure?
ere seems to be a simple implementation in OWL with
> property paths. Not an immediate solution but a flag for more to come.
>
> All the best,
>
> Thanasis
>
> On 14/12/2021 15:49, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have situations in which I h
Dear all,
Just a general question to the crowd.
Sometimes one has transcribed data of a very simple form.
A is supposed to represent B and it has been copied by someone with the
intention of so doing.
A is a transcription of B
A [E33] is a transcription of B [E33]
This could be modelled
Dear all,
Many people try to use the CIDOC CRM in order to build sustainable,
reusable data sources and connect into a wider linked open data web.
When they do so, they would like to easily be able to find / use the URIs
for the classes and properties that the standard declares.
The official
.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 6:03 AM George Bruseker via Crm-sig
> > mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Many people try to use the CIDOC CRM in order to build sustainable,
> >
nscriptions.
>
> All the best,
>
> martin
>
> On 7/22/2021 4:59 PM, Robert Sanderson via Crm-sig wrote:
>
>
> What about:
>
> A a E33_Linguistic_Object ;
> P94i_was_created_by Creation .
> Creation a E65_Creation ;
> p2_has_type or p32_used_general_technique
Hi Rob / Francesco / Martin,
These are all nice examples that maybe we could dig into further, maybe
they display the 'senses of outcome' problem Martin is pointing to?
An ontological problem that seems to come up in my mind as I try to
conceptualize this is do we mean
1) outcome of type in the
G
>
> All the best,
>
> Thanasis
>
> On 07/01/2022 10:08, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
> > Hi Rob / Francesco / Martin,
> >
> > These are all nice examples that maybe we could dig into further, maybe
> > they display the 'senses of outcome' problem
Hi Martin,
> We use the “type" because it implies necessarily if it is a perdurant or
> endurant, person etc. If it does not, it is ill-defined, and has no place
> in a Thesaurus (see the AAT).
>
Unfortunately, I find many thesuri don't follow good ontological
principles, so we are forced for
t;> are offered for sale, which does not imply anything more than a sort of
>>>>> publication. Actual purchase is a reaction on the offer. Purchase may
>>>>> happen without offer. Actual change of ownership is modeled in the CRM.
>>>>> The
>
Hi All,
Here is a link to the folder in the SIG CIDOC CRM Drive for issue 580
containing all the pertinent homework which is:
Scope of CRMSoc
List of Classes and Properties to be redistributed / considered
New Spec doc with initial classes and properties proposed
Dear all,
A sub aspect of the issue that Philippe will introduce around translations
is 'where to put the translations' on the website. I was tasked with doing
this some SIGs ago. The HW has been there for a while. Time permitting, we
can look at it!
Dear all,
Social symbolic events such as acquisitions (not done by force) are also
strictly not observable since you can only know that they occur if you
share the same social symbolic set and 'conclude' or 'infer' that something
has taken place. There is no atomic level at which we see these
Dear Martin,
> May be you live in a different world, or make things artificially complex
> for the sake of providing absolute answers, which do not exist.
>
Interesting claim.
>
>
> The CRM method requires research questions.
>
> My implicit research question is simple: How do I prove that I
Dear all,
I am also wondering about implementing .1 constructs in CRM Archaeo.
Although CRM Archaeo declares .1 properties that are actually essential to
its implementation, those properties are not (I believe) expressed in the
RDF that comes with CRM Archaeo. Is there a hidden PC file for CRM
Dear all,
Subsequent to another thread I started here I am proposing that there be a
conversation about having a standard policy and method for creating,
documenting and making available the .1 properties for base and its
extensions in the RDF serialization. At present to my knowledge the PC
Yes, to the reformulated text.
With this caveat, that the underlined in the formulation, " This property
associates a kind of object (documented as an instance of E55) to an
instance of E4 Period *for indicating that* objects of this kind have been
generated within this period," sounds
Dear all,
I am wondering if we should have somewhere in the main document where
you can find all the .1 properties. Presently, to my knowledge, there is no
index of where these properties are. For those that use the .1 properties
it is difficult to find them all using the specification document.
Following on this helpful new iteration of the thought by Martin maybe a
phrasing like 'in distinction to facts established directly through / at
the level of material physical processes and interactions' is more
expressive of the content/intent?
On Thu., Feb. 3, 2022, 11:52 p.m. Martin
acquired. They make sense if the word "aptitude" is replaced
> with "ability".
>
> Hope this is helpful. Please ignore if not.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Matthew
> Dr Matthew Stiff MSc DPhil DPsych CPsychol
> Counselling Psychologist
> Matthew Stiff Counselling Psychol
Hi all,
Following up on this issue, I have had a hack at proposing a property name
and scope for a general skills type property. Here it is:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kge1gqohcr4NQK89kxbhiLfGuqgzassJpWze81GgmBc/edit?usp=sharing
Best,
George
Hi All,
Another part of this homework was to clear up the state of classes that
were 'in' CRMSoc under the old definition, being considered to be in or
just being bandied about as ideas. The idea is to house clean the whole
business so that we can start off anew in the correct direction and also
Hi all,
Here is the homework for 578 in the CRM SIG google drive:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EXSW6CRV3T1G05UpO8mH7hZwMDTu1_VvjzmzcaeudlI/edit?usp=sharing
Best,
George
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wn parameters of an event, such as purchase from unknown to
>>> unknown, do not need a n "outcome" property, but are just a specific event
>>> an object has experienced.
>>>
>>> Isn't it?
>>>
>>> Other kinds of "outcomes" can be modif
Dear Martin,
Hi George,
>
> Please explain in more detail:
>
> On 1/6/2022 1:54 PM, George Bruseker wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> So the context for this is that there are provenance events being
> described and there is categorical knowledge derivable from the source
> material which a researcher
ess. Museum records cite such publications explicitly, but the
> inverse has never been exploited systematically.
>
> Cheers,
>
> martin
>
> On 12/14/2021 6:55 PM, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
>
> better phrasing, 'about a particular thing that is known categorically'
&g
s is a very small subset.
>
> As in all such cases, we first need a collection of examples, and study if
> there exist common semantics, or if it splits in a set of more specific
> cases. I'd expect about 5 kinds of outcomes. If you give me the time, I can
> present in the next m
The duality of primitives as being in and out of of the universe of a
discourse is a problem
On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 9:45 AM Schmidle, Wolfgang via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
> Okay, last one. I had overlooked P82 "at some time within", and of course
> there is also P172 "contains"
t is not clear enough, please reformulate
> adequately.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 10/3/2023 9:59 AM, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
>
> The duality of primitives as being in and out of of the universe of a
> discourse is a problem
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 202
Agreed. And it would make the standard more compact, an important principle!
Deprecate
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 6:30 PM Robert Sanderson via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
> yes to deprecating both properties.
>
> preference is both context specific, and a classification of an identifier
Dear Kai,
Thank you for the update on your work! This is an important segment of
CIDOC CRM work, to create means for appropriating the model and applying
it. I am sure this will be of interest to many in the group and will merit
further discussion.
Sincerely,
George
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at
Dear all,
My two cents.
I like the proposal regarding sustainability and its recognition
particularly of the financial realities and the potentials of technologies
/ new methodologies and how they relate to our working practice. (Not to
mention ecological questions)
Setting a standard number of
Dear all,
I also think that it would be useful to clarify who can or cannot vote and
what is the formal basis of voting and to have voting come from this base.
This does not mean that one has to vote if one formally is allowed to,
simply that the voting community is made clear. This would then
Dear all,
The organizer of this meeting invited me to share this link with you. They
were hoping to hear about CIDOC CRM but couldn't organize anything in time.
Regardless, it seems like a really good conference and of interest to some
in the community.
https://citcemnews.wixsite.com/irmm22
Dear Martin and Wolfgang,
>
> >> Therefore, the described destination is an instance of E53 Place which
> P89 falls within (contains) the instance of E53 Place the move P7 took
> place at.
> > P26(x,y) ⇒ (∃z) [E53(z) ∧ P7(x,z) ∧ P89(y,z)]
> >
> > I assume that P26 behaves in the same way as P7,
Hi all,
This is for the .1 fans out there. I think it's an old discussion, but one
perhaps not unworth repeating. There are places where .1 is introduced like
'P14 carried out by' which allow you to qualify the relation's mode or
aspect. Participated as lawyer, as doctor etc.
Now P14 has
Dear all,
Given that CRMbase 7.1.1 is now a static entity and needs to be so for the
purposes of shepherding it through the ISO process (shout out to Philippe
and Erin!), now seems a good time to be doing some consolidation on the
many extensions and trying to tighten up official versions of
Dear all,
Issue 624 can be found here:
https://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-624-add-e33e41linguisticappellation-to-the-official-specification
The discussion revolves around adding a class to the specification and not
just the rdfs which represents the phenomenon of names being in languages.
The
Dear all,
Please find my HW for Issue 488
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FrHiJj_4jR46ZeBjhsFblXQej2gwaZwCq3l-YU8--18/edit?usp=sharing
The issue is around for a while and is about documenting roles and
representation in activities. I present a potential solution based on
evidence from
Dear both,
I'm too covidy still to follow this in detail but I think the issue was
left, for the notes to show, for Martin to provide an example to show the
problem he sees that we cannot see.
Cheers,
George
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 9:47 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>
Hi,
On return to Athens yesterday Dec 12 I tested positive for COVID. I did not
feel symptoms during Luxembourg meet but I thought it wise to share this
with those who were in person. I do feel symptoms now. O13 triggered!
All the best
George
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Sincerely,
George
On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 4:53 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
> YES
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 10:56 George Bruseker via Crm-sig <
> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I propose the d
in Luxembourg.
Sincerely,
George
On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 9:38 AM Weiss Christian SNM via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
>
> YES
>
> On 01/11/2022 09:53, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I propose the deletion of the following classes
Dear all,
Please find in the following links some additional homework for the ongoing
CRMdig update.
Discussion Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mjPo_UVJ7MlHzQuhEU8TCd4GnwbgOkR308oMPRxKzKY/edit?usp=sharing
Supporting Diagrams
Dear all,
Whilst doing some Archaeo implementation in Arches, Takin.solutions noticed
a typo in the latest stable RDF for archaeo. 1.4.1
https://cidoc-crm.org/crmarchaeo/ModelVersion/version-1.4.1
The RDF reads:
Stratigraphic Unit
This class comprises S20 Physical Features that are either A2
provide the appropriate
>> class and document it and allow people to build around it, would be a
>> superior way to go imho.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 12:04 PM stead...@outlook.com <
>> stead...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Surely the RDFS E33_E41 is ju
concept.
>>> Needing to use an arcane construct either E33_E41 or multi instantiation
>>> for the majority case when the standard could just provide the appropriate
>>> class and document it and allow people to build around it, would be a
>>> superior way to go
t;> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 9:18 AM Pavlos Fafalios via Crm-sig <
>>>> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear George,
>>>>>
>>>>> To my understanding (without having been involved in the
>>>>> relevant disc
La trahison des images" is back to French; "The wind and
>> the song" is back to English ... On the other hand, a 'name' is usually
>> composed of words, etc. that have no other use in natural language. But
>> there are many counter-examples, and the distinction may
Dear all,
It is the CRM SIG's practice to encode the English label of a class into
the URI of the class itself. We thus find the official URIs of CRM encoded
in each official version of CRMbase on the official website:
https://cidoc-crm.org/versions-of-the-cidoc-crm
e.g.:
; I will correct this ASAP,
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Elias Tzortzakakis
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Crm-sig *On Behalf Of *George
> Bruseker via Crm-sig
> *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2022 5:02 PM
> *To:* crm-sig
> *Subject:* [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1
Dear all,
There are two references to the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33
that allows you to talk about the language of a name (which is a super
common requirement... actually almost always necessary). I can't give you
it's official name because I dont know because it isn't in the spec
ple
> instantiation that is problematic in RDFS land not a need for a new class.
>
>
>
> *From:* Crm-sig *On Behalf Of *George
> Bruseker via Crm-sig
> *Sent:* 07 November 2022 15:58
> *To:* Elias Tzortzakakis
> *Cc:* Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
> *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] erro
Dear all,
I am writing this as a preface to a number of emails that I hope I will be
sending through to the list over the next while regarding CRMdig. Following
the last SIG meeting in Rome, a decision was made to try to move forward
with doing a general review of CRMdig both to check its general
Dear all,
I propose the deletion of the following properties of CRMdig. The reason
that each should be deleted is listed beside it, but there are two basic,
principled reasons for the proposal:
1) the property can be modelled using a more generic pattern from CRMbase
or CRMdig without loss of
Dear all,
I propose the deletion of the following classes of CRMdig. The reason that
each should be deleted is listed beside it, but there are two basic,
principled reasons for the proposal:
1) the class can be modelled using a more generic pattern from CRMbase or
CRMdig without loss of semantic
ue, Nov 8, 2022 at 9:18 AM Pavlos Fafalios via Crm-sig <
>>>> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear George,
>>>>>
>>>>> To my understanding (without having been involved in the
>>>>> relevant discussi
Dear both,
I have to agree with Robert, I basically can't even conceive how this is an
argument. Obviously names come in languages MOST of the time. This is a
basic feature of living in a human society, is it not? Is this not a base
experience of being embodied as a human being that we all
or to put it another way, if one only lived in a world of CRMese and knew
nothing else about the world in itself, understanding what E33_E41 is is
just a question of understanding what E35_Title is and then taking the
conceptual leap that it can be applied to E1. That's it! Names, in a
language,
Dear Martin,
I don't see an ontological problem here. One name can be used by / in many
languages. If it is, that can be documented.
> The question was not if names can belong to language, or if langauges
> create names. It was how this is unambiguously defined.
>
It isn't our job as
Here is fun example of linguistic object which I guess challenges p72 but
is still actually diaskedastic and perithoric to our enterprise, brought to
you by the great zolotas
https://youtu.be/2XAcuxFqk9k
In what language is it? In what language is this email?
And is it in our capacity as
Dear all,
Given the opened discussion of the utility and need for this class and the
discussion which illustrates a clear precedent and use for this class, as
well as the need for the top principle for the need to clearly document
elements of the standard, I propose for the class to be added not
I'd use the term 'forms of life' instead of 'intangible heritage'. Then the
likely closest CRM concept is E5 Event, at least if you want to be able to
associate to actors in any direct way.
E5 Event "Tango" p11 had participant E74 Group.
Probably to be more expressive one would need an extension
I'm posting the following response text from Steve because the mailing list
software tosses his messages out:
Just a quick thought.
As you mention a set of individual performances (E7 Activities) you could
say that the individual performances (E7 Activity: performance of Tango on
particular
Dear all,
You will have noticed on the agenda for the upcoming CRM SIG recently sent
by Eleni Tsoulouha that a day has been set aside for a discussion centering
around didactic and training material related to the understanding and use
of CIDOC CRM.
The dedication of a day to this topic was
Dear both,
I am more and more swayed by Francesco's argument that every PC property
class hides an actual ontological entity which we are failing to properly
model.
I think in principle what Pavlos proposes is syntactically correct and
insofar as we stay on PC here that is probably the way to
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