Re: [css-d] Site Check: Completed Lice_control.com

2005-09-28 Thread David Laakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am 99.9% complete. Just doing the final once over. Please take a peak for me and let me know if anyones browsers are rendering crazy things. Thanks www.lice-control.com Adam Adam, I can't tell you how much I enjoy reading about lice. Making this little

Re: [css-d] Validator Encoding Note

2005-09-28 Thread David Dorward
On 27/09/05, Steve Clason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And no, you can't change the http header on the page, but that's what the Content-Type meta element is for, to change the content-type of the page from what the http header says. No, it is to provide an http header in the event that there

Re: [css-d] Issue with tables and CSS

2005-09-28 Thread David Dorward
On 28/09/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having issues in IE (Im on a Mac here) getting the right items to go down as they should be. It seems my knowlede of nesting tables has waned in the last year. Can anyone take a look and let me know if I styled things or placed the

RE:[css-d] strange quirk with width on UL (IE 5.5 only)

2005-09-28 Thread Edith Karnitsch @ Terranetwork
Marc, Win/IE6 - bullets in ul#setwidth don't show at all :( Win/IE5.5 - bullets/list in ul#setwidth are moved to right (seems to apply list-style-position: inside for some reason) as in screenshot :( When I removed the width command, the lists worked fine. Applying a 90% width seems to push

[css-d] apply browser hacks inline?

2005-09-28 Thread ross
div id=middle_extended style=browser hack goes here /div Is it possible to apply browser hacks that are not in the external css but inline. R. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

Re: [css-d] apply browser hacks inline?

2005-09-28 Thread Christian Heilmann
div id=middle_extended style=browser hack goes here /div Is it possible to apply browser hacks that are not in the external css but inline. To make them even more of a hack and be in the way of maintenance? On MSIE this is what conditional comments are for. Most browser hacks work on the

[css-d] One More Floating bug in IE

2005-09-28 Thread tuosu bragge
I have figure out one more floating bug in IE. Have somebody else notice this before and maybe have some workaround available. http://koti.mbnet.fi/tuosu/iebug/floatingbugie.html ... Luukku Plus paketilla pääset eroon tila- ja

Re: [css-d] apply browser hacks inline?

2005-09-28 Thread Matthias Kestenholz
Hi, On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 11:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: div id=middle_extended style=browser hack goes here /div Is it possible to apply browser hacks that are not in the external css but inline. Yes, it's possible for some of them. @import and selector hacks (like * html) do

Re: [css-d] apply browser hacks inline?

2005-09-28 Thread Kristina Floyd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: div id=middle_extended style=browser hack goes here /div Is it possible to apply browser hacks that are not in the external css but inline. Hi I have no idea as I can't think of an instance where I'd need to do that. Have you tried it? But aside from that, why

Re: [css-d] invisible h1 with rollover

2005-09-28 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two boxes that have different links in them (examples http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/ex1.gif http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/ex2.gif ) http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/drop_links.htm http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/new.css The problem is I need to have

Re: [css-d] Re: overflow:auto/scroll

2005-09-28 Thread Adriano Castro
Hi, I'm also using overflow:auto in a div to mimic the behaviour of an iframe. What I want is, basically, a div for text with a set width and height that, when the text overflows, shows up a scrollbar. Here's what I'm working on: +

Re: [css-d] Re: overflow:auto/scroll

2005-09-28 Thread Christian Heilmann
Here's what I'm working on: + http://dev.adrianocastro.net/help/0001/ So far, so good. It seems to work relatively well on most browsers apart from some minor glitches when it comes to other text-size. Your general comments are highly appreciated. I cannot use it with a

Re: [css-d] Bullets/ Centering in tables

2005-09-28 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Peter Frederiksen wrote: I apologize. It's been less than a month since I read my first line of html (or, for that matter, any other code). Just FYI -- HTML is not code. It's markup. You wrap tags about pieces of content to mark them up as headings or paragraphs or lists, etc. This may

[css-d] Mac and Linux checks please.

2005-09-28 Thread BJ
http://seeklocally.com/europe/ This one's a pretty simple one, just need to know if it's holding up on the Shiny Side and in OpenSourceWorld. Thanks! bj --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound says I'm squeaky clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0539-1, 09/27/2005 Tested on: 9/28/2005 11:12:02 AM

[css-d] cross-browser display problems

2005-09-28 Thread JOE HODGE
Ok, working on my third CSS styled site and have hit a major snafu. First two render well enough in FF, NS, and MSIE/Win [1]. Have not checked them in other browsers. The current project [2] renders fine in MSIE/Win but is completely out of whack in FF or Netscape. Not sure why the difference

Re: [css-d] Bullets/ Centering in tables

2005-09-28 Thread Peter Frederiksen
Thanks. To all of you. I was actually looking at the listutorial (and testing) when I got your reply. And yes, this is *exactly* what I needed. Regards, Peter - Original Message - From: Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: css css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [css-d] Bullets/ Centering in tables

2005-09-28 Thread Christian Montoya
2. Non-tabular data (items 4-6) To make the design consistent this data needs to be put in tables too. No, it doesn't. If the 6 items are inclosed in a DIV, you can put a table of 3 items followed by a list of 3 items. Or a list of 6 items :-)

Re: [css-d] cross-browser display problems

2005-09-28 Thread Christian Montoya
I also get a bunch of errors/warnings for using a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]subject=The Indigo Connection Website. Seems it does not like the last part where it fills in the subject for the user. Again, just a personal preference but I want to be able to fill in the subject line on

RE: [css-d] cross-browser display problems

2005-09-28 Thread Pringle, Ron
As an aside and since I am here, I tried validating the xhtml of the current project and get a bunch of errors/warnings about not using target=_blank with links. I know target= is not supposed to be used but I do _not_ want links to other sites opening in the same window. Joe- Not to put

[css-d] Order of Divs: Links or Content First, and How to Implement?

2005-09-28 Thread Kim Finleyson
I have a 2-part question regarding the order of divs in an HTML page. (Please note that the pages I design are only for my company's customers, which I happen to know will be using IE.) 1. For a tableless CSS layout, I read that for search engines (SEO), links should be at the top of the HTML.

Re: [css-d] Order of Divs: Links or Content First, and How to Implement?

2005-09-28 Thread Kristina Floyd
Kim Finleyson wrote: (Please note that the pages I design are only for my company's customers, which I happen to know will be using IE.) Just out of interest how do you know that they will only be using IE? (sorry i know curiosity killed the cat, and all that but I just had to ask!) ;o)

Re: [css-d] using css-styled emails

2005-09-28 Thread James Wanless
You could generate the email, but you'd still have to echo it to HTML output or perhaps do it with XSLT. Nonetheless, once you've got the HTML built you can hardcode the CSS into it or refer to a publicly available CSS and then send it with the browser. jdw On 9/25/05, Jan Brasna [EMAIL

[css-d] Printing Footers

2005-09-28 Thread Krassy
Hi everyone, Is it possible to get repeated footers to print? I've done some research[*] and experimentation but haven't been able to get a footer to print bottom-aligned on every page. [*] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/alaprintstyles http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=PrintingHeaders

Re: [css-d] Order of Divs: Links or Content First, and How to Implement?

2005-09-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kim Finleyson wrote: (Please note that the pages I design are only for my company's customers, which I happen to know will be using IE.) (doesn't matter) 1. For a tableless CSS layout, I read that for search engines (SEO), links should be at the top of the HTML. However I've also read that

[css-d] Online course to learn CSS?

2005-09-28 Thread Donna French
Can someone recommend an online course to learn CSS? I have picked up enough to be dangerous and would like to redesign the company web site to fully take advantage of CSS. TIA, Donna French __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread Donna Casey
can someone point me to a page that is 1) true, 2) reliable, and recognizably authorative, and 3) that says what the default settings are for Internet Explorer browsers - as in ViewText SizeLargest, Larger, Medium, Smaller, Small? I'm in a heated debate with a company for whom I do a lot of

[css-d] online css courses

2005-09-28 Thread cormier
I really like w3schools.com. It's free. It's well layed out. and it has that nice split-screen for trying stuff out. cheers, dave. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ

[css-d] XHTML Design for CSS -- How To?

2005-09-28 Thread Peter Beckman
I've decided it's time to become standards based, and get into XHTML 1.0 strict + CSS. I've been using CSS, but really a hybrid of HTML and XHTML, never very consistent. So having learned HTML old-school in 1994, getting good at XHTML design is a bit challenging. I've looked at CSS Zen Garden

Re: [css-d] Online course to learn CSS?

2005-09-28 Thread jleonard
Try lynda.com. I believe thay have a good starter... On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:20:52 -0400, Donna French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone recommend an online course to learn CSS? I have picked up enough to be dangerous and would like to redesign the company web site to fully take

[css-d] position:fixed; ie

2005-09-28 Thread David Laakso
Fixed header problem in IE. Image should pass under the header. And scroll bar is not where one might expect it to be. Works as intended in Opera and FF. http://www.dlaakso.com/sandbox/aarre-test-1.html (embedded) Thanks. David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com

Re: [css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread David Laakso
Donna Casey wrote: can someone point me to a page that is 1) true, 2) reliable, and recognizably authorative, and 3) that says what the default settings are for Internet Explorer browsers - as in ViewText SizeLargest, Larger, Medium, Smaller, Small? I'm in a heated debate with a company for

Re: [css-d] Mac and Linux checks please.

2005-09-28 Thread David Laakso
BJ wrote: http://seeklocally.com/europe/ This one's a pretty simple one, just need to know if it's holding up on the Shiny Side and in OpenSourceWorld. Thanks! bj 20 screen captures-- Mac/Linux http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=194443 Best, dL -- David Laakso

[css-d] Off Topic - Sorry

2005-09-28 Thread Abyss Information
I know this is off topic, and I am sorry. Does anyone know where I can get royalty free or just play free background images to use on my CSS for both business and personal needs? Thanks heaps.. Abyss www.Abyss.ws __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] XHTML Design for CSS -- How To?

2005-09-28 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 3:55:14 PM, Peter Beckman wrote: the idea behind grouping like-content together, but I don't understand when it is good to have an extra container (div) here and there. ZG was designed with restyle-ability as the #1 goal and has plenty of superfluous markup. For

Re: [css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread Felix Miata
Donna Casey wrote: can someone point me to a page that is 1) true, 2) reliable, and recognizably authorative, and 3) that says what the default settings are for Internet Explorer browsers - as in ViewText SizeLargest, Larger, Medium, Smaller, Small? I'm in a heated debate with a company

Re: [css-d] Off Topic - Sorry

2005-09-28 Thread Peter Beckman
I like the stock.xchng: http://www.sxc.hu/ On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Abyss Information wrote: I know this is off topic, and I am sorry. Does anyone know where I can get royalty free or just play free background images to use on my CSS for both business and personal needs? Thanks heaps.. Abyss

Re: [css-d] Off Topic - Sorry

2005-09-28 Thread Ceri Richard
There's a huge, wonderful collection of backgrounds at Citrus Moon: http://citrusmoon.typepad.com/ ceri On 9/28/05, Peter Beckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the stock.xchng: http://www.sxc.hu/ On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Abyss Information wrote: I know this is off topic, and I am sorry.

Re: [css-d] position:fixed; ie

2005-09-28 Thread Holly Bergevin
From David Laakso: Fixed header problem in IE. Image should pass under the header. And scroll bar is not where one might expect it to be. Works as intended in Opera and FF. http://www.dlaakso.com/sandbox/aarre-test-1.html (embedded) Hi David, The following changes provide a solution, of

Re: [css-d] new subscriber wants to know about best practices and what the hedoublehockeystick and 'em' is ;-)

2005-09-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kevin Martin wrote: ...I've been given the directive that the website MUST look the same in all browsers (primarily concerned with IE, FF, and Mozilla, less-so on Opera). Ok, turn that browser-list the other way around while designing/coding/testing, and it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Re: [css-d] new subscriber wants to know about best practices and what the hedoublehockeystick and 'em' is ;-)

2005-09-28 Thread David Dorward
On 26/09/05, Kevin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been given the directive that the website MUST look the same in all browsers Oh dear. Web, as a media, is not designed to look the same everywhere. User's want larger fonts? They get large fonts. User's want wider windows? They get wider

Re: [css-d] position:fixed; ie

2005-09-28 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Holly Bergevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] #IEgatehouse { display: block; text-align: center; background: #A0522D; height: 64px; margin-top: 50px; /* new since previous email */ } Removing the 50px padding from #gatekeeper puts the scrollbar closer to the display in Gecko. PS - You can add

Re: [css-d] Browser and platform compatibility

2005-09-28 Thread Adam Kuehn
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote (among other good bit of advice): For cross-browser compatibility year 2005: rewrite all 'font:' so font-sizes are defined in 'em' or '%', and line-heights are in 'em', '%' or 'unitless', as IE/win can't resize fonts defined in px-units. There are very few use cases

Re: [css-d] Mac and Linux checks please.

2005-09-28 Thread BJ
Okay, the screenshots seem to sum up what everyone has told me- the nav bar and breadcrumb trail are borking in both Safari and Konqueror. And simple has turned into not-so-simple once again. Tedd also said: However, the navigation becomes confusing and doesn't hold it's shape/configuration

[css-d] Many requirements

2005-09-28 Thread christianz
Is it possible to set this page up so that they two gray boxes (Iron Giant is Good, I Like Ray Liotta) stretch with the width of the browser window while keeping the same amount of space inbetween the two boxes *and* so that the two gray lines below How?s The Weather in Brazil? and Aquaman is

Re: [css-d] Off Topic - Sorry

2005-09-28 Thread Shelly @ WDG
My favorite will always be www.istockphoto.com Not free, but *definitely* cheap, and good photos/artwork. ~Shelly __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ --

[css-d] Flash, Video, CSS -- Can they live together?

2005-09-28 Thread Peter Beckman
I'm trying to build (as I mentioned earlier) a nice XHTML template which designers can then use CSS to make pretty. Unfortunately, some want to embed video and/or Flash into the page. Crap. Now I have to add more divs and I have to add objects. Now display gunk is going into my XHTML code when

RE: [css-d] Online course to learn CSS?

2005-09-28 Thread BJ
Can someone recommend an online course to learn CSS? I have picked up enough to be dangerous and would like to redesign the company web site to fully take advantage of CSS. I suggest you start here: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/index.htm

Re: [css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread Donna Casey
Felix Miata wrote: Medium on IE is always 12pt BTW. **yes, roughly 16px if you calculate the difference between windows and macintosh (default 16px) Exactly why is it you need to gauge size in pixel amounts? Then sizing can be calculated easier. 1.2em in a container that inherits the

Re: [css-d] Off Topic - Sorry

2005-09-28 Thread Tim Zappe
I like http://www.k10k.net/frames.aspx?section=patterns for background tiles...if that's what you're looking for. -Tim tzappe.com http://tzappe.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] [solved] unsticky background

2005-09-28 Thread Colin
Hi Philippe, I really appreciate the tips, you solved it. I tried using a clearing div more than twice before I posted in the first place. I guess I'd been looking at it for too long, as I kept putting it in the same place and scratching my head as to why it wouldn't work. But I much prefer

Re: [css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread Donna Casey
Rick Faircloth wrote: I looked into that by simply installing IE fresh to see what it set up by default for text size, because I new most users would never change it and wanted to match my default font size to look its best with that setting. It defaulted to Medium... yes, the guy has since

Re: [css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread Dejan Kozina
I've used Eudora Light (3.0.6) for ca. 6 years both at home and work without any such effect on IE 4/5/5.5/6/6SP1... djn Donna Casey wrote: that indicate that if you have Eudora email, a glitch causes the default of the IE browser to set to Smaller. -- Dejan Kozina Dolina 346 (TS) -

Re: [css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread Donna Casey
Dejan Kozina wrote: I've used Eudora Light (3.0.6) for ca. 6 years both at home and work without any such effect on IE 4/5/5.5/6/6SP1... Eudora4x bug __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] The definitive truth about Internet Explorer default text size settings

2005-09-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Donna Casey wrote: ..625em (62.5%) of (12pt)16px is 10px. If a containing block uses that font-size, from there, it's dead easy to reset that #foo p to what it would be normally at medium by setting it to 1.6em. If I set something to 1.2em, I know it's 12px. The math is just easier and it works

[css-d] Thanks for help

2005-09-28 Thread Linda Quinn
Just wanted to say thank-you for this list. The answer I received from Georgon post help with disappearing borders in IE6/Win was exactly the answer I needed. My borders are now appearing nicely. I'm sure I will have more questions as I go along, and it is good to know you are all here!

[css-d] Can you do this with CSS? Layers and divs?

2005-09-28 Thread Jeff D. Reid
I have six images with the first one (image A) being a combination of image on top and a text description below it. When you mouseover the remaining 5 images (with no text descriptions), I want the main image A to change for each of the other 5 images. Same for the text description below

[css-d] IE 5 Mac totally not diggin my CSS!

2005-09-28 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Hello, I know no-one (or hardly no-one) uses IE 5 Mac anymore, but I am trying to at least have my site presentable in that browser (it currently is not). Right now nothing shows up at all except the outer div and header graphic. The site is at http://www.inspired-evolution.com/ and the CSS is

[ADMIN] Re: [css-d] Off Topic - Sorry

2005-09-28 Thread Alex Robinson
A load o people posted totally off topic suggestions to a thread with off topic in the subject Can you guys just stop this now please? Once again it must be pointed out that if you are thinking of posting something to [css-d] and find yourself writing off topic or potentially off topic...

Re: [css-d] position:fixed; ie

2005-09-28 Thread David Laakso
Holly Bergevin wrote: From: Holly Bergevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] #IEgatehouse { display: block; text-align: center; background: #A0522D; height: 64px; margin-top: 50px; /* new since previous email */ } Hope that helps, ~holly Many thanks Holly for resolving a mind

Re: [css-d] IE 5 Mac totally not diggin my CSS!

2005-09-28 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 29 Sep 2005, at 9:30 am, Bruce Gilbert wrote: I know no-one (or hardly no-one) uses IE 5 Mac anymore, Hmm, depending on your audience... I sometimes get up to 40% of Mac users still browsing with IE. but I am trying to at least have my site presentable in that browser (it currently is

Re: [css-d] position:fixed; ie

2005-09-28 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] One remaking bugger (ie only) is that the scroll bar arrow is trapped at the bottom border of the header. And the scroll bar resides on the edge of the max-width container (easiest seen at 1280) instead of against the viewport. Commenting out the ie

Re: [css-d] Mac and Linux checks please.

2005-09-28 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 29 Sep 2005, at 12:12 am, BJ wrote: http://seeklocally.com/europe/ With Safari, your #path does it exactly what you tell it to do: #path { /* some other styles */ display: inline-block; } It collapses in width. Opera supports inline-block, but partly expands it due to the floated

Re: [css-d] position:fixed; ie

2005-09-28 Thread David Laakso
Holly Bergevin wrote: From: David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's a link if you'd like to check it out. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/cssjedi/index1.html I'm sure there are others with solutions to your dilemma. I haven't worked with fixed positioning in quirks mode, so I don't have

[css-d] div tags showing line break in firefox

2005-09-28 Thread praveen vejandla
Dear All, I have a web page that uses CSS and number of div tags. it shows is IE as 4 div segments per row (horizontally) then next 4 in second row. But when I am using firefox , everything is shown vertically in one column itself. Ex: IE shows as below. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Firefox

Re: [css-d] div tags showing line break in firefox

2005-09-28 Thread matt andrews
On 29 Sep 2005 05:13:14 -, praveen vejandla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I have a web page that uses CSS and number of div tags. it shows is IE as 4 div segments per row (horizontally) then next 4 in second row. But when I am using firefox , everything is shown vertically in