[css-d] height: 100%;

2006-03-13 Thread caparuni
hi all, i'm a new member and like to share my problem and hope that someone could help me out, cause i'm stuck here for days ;( http://www.caparuni.or.id/konsulat_philipines/main5.htm http://www.caparuni.or.id/konsulat_philipines/main6.htm i've made those 2 layout and have some problem with

Re: [css-d] height: 100%;

2006-03-13 Thread felix . zapata
hi, maybe you can use the faux columsn method http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=AFC58 Quoting caparuni [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi all, i'm a new member and like to share my problem and hope that someone could help me out, cause i'm stuck here for days ;(

Re: [css-d] Print styles problem

2006-03-13 Thread Charlie Clark
On 2006-03-12 at 05:24:17 [+0100], Roger Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The css validator is your friend. Fix the errors and it will likely work just fine. Actually removing the style tags from the css files might be all you need to to, but fixing the other errors would be good.

Re: [css-d] height: 100%;

2006-03-13 Thread Bob Easton
caparuni wrote: hi all, i'm a new member and like to share my problem and hope that someone could help me out, cause i'm stuck here for days ;( http://www.caparuni.or.id/konsulat_philipines/main5.htm http://www.caparuni.or.id/konsulat_philipines/main6.htm i've made those 2 layout and have

Re: [css-d] CSS dropdown menu + Accessibility Issue

2006-03-13 Thread Bob Easton
Christian Montoya wrote: On 3/12/06, Tracy Shorrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I don't imagine many users will browse the site without CSS, but for the odd chance that it happens, you could put a skip to content on-page link that is hidden by the CSS in the stylesheet. This has it's own

[css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread Peter Dominic Ryan
Hi folks I am really stumped by a validation error I am getting on my CSS; http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http:// djrobgilbert.com/ Line: 830 Context : .linkbox dl Invalid number : display inline-block is not a display value : inline-block Where in

Re: [css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread Els
Peter Dominic Ryan wrote: Hi folks Hello :-) I am really stumped by a validation error I am getting on my CSS; http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://djrobgilbert.com/ Line: 830 Context : .linkbox dl Invalid number : display inline-block is not a display value :

Re: [css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread Nils Kr. Falch
On 3/13/06, Peter Dominic Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am really stumped. Whilst I can understand some browsers not supporting this declaration, I cannot work out why the W3 validator fails. Any advice would be most appreciated. Display:inline-block was added to CSS2.1 while the

Re: [css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread David Dorward
On 13/03/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CSS3 should be the default instead of CSS2 as it seems to be now, but that's not up to us, I guess. CSS 2 is the most recent (finished) version of CSS. 2.1 is currently a working draft. 3 is currently a large collection of different modules

[css-d] Disappearing table content in IE6

2006-03-13 Thread Net Noise
I have used the 'hasLayout'[1] trigger below: @media screen { * html #contentcontainer {height: 0;} } to help IE6 display content that disappears in a layout containing a wide data table. The table is contained in a series of 3 nested divs: #contentcontainer {position: relative; margin: 0 0 0

[css-d] Need help getting rid of PDFs - looking for CSS-based PDF-less paper forms

2006-03-13 Thread Mitko Gerensky-Greene
Hello, I have a new challenge for those willing to help: How to provide users with the ability to create a web page that looks exactly like a paper form without using the Adobe toolkit. The main focus is on the print preview function (i.e., allowing users to print a record of what they

Re: [css-d] tools for determining results of the cascade

2006-03-13 Thread cj
On 3/11/06, David McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to find CSS tools that help you determine the results of inheritance and the cascade for elements on a Web page. Are there any other tools out there that you're using (besides your brains) that help you figure out the results of

Re: [css-d] tools for determining results of the cascade

2006-03-13 Thread cj
On 3/13/06, cj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you have firefox? if so, this extension is invaluable to me: useless link deleted it doesn't compute em values in a cascade, but it shows you the order of the css getting applied. sorry about that everyone; i posted the wrong link. one more try...

Re: [css-d] Need help getting rid of PDFs - looking for CSS-based PDF-less paper forms

2006-03-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 3/13/06, Mitko Gerensky-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote How to provide users with the ability to create a web page that looks exactly like a paper form without using the Adobe toolkit. The main focus is on the print preview function (i.e., allowing users to print a record of what they

[css-d] Font-weight problems

2006-03-13 Thread css
Hi, me again, still struggling with the finer points of CSS! Except I think this one should be simple... My client has a logo kFA in which she has the body of the k as tall as the FA part. This is in some font which naturally achieves this. She wants the same effect throughout her website. So

Re: [css-d] Font-weight problems

2006-03-13 Thread Peter Michaux
The k looks pretty good to me. It doesn't really look bold. To me it looks a little thicker because it is bigger but it doesn't look bold. (Mac OS X Firefox and Safari) I was playing with bold and bolder font weights a couple days ago. Made no difference since the font on my computer only had

Re: [css-d] Font-weight problems

2006-03-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I created a class and put a SPAN around the k, which has font-size: 1.3em and font-weight: 100 (although I have also tried font-weight: lighter). It doesn't seem any different! Please have a look and tell me if you see the same thing, especially in larger

Re: [css-d] Dropdown menu disappearing in IE

2006-03-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Ann Adamcik wrote: I'm sure this must be an faq, but I searched and didn't find anything. If someone can point me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it! I'm trying to implement the Son of Suckerfish dropdowns, and in IE my second-level menu disappears if I mouse past the

[css-d] positioning thumbs-- ie ::~dL

2006-03-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
Stuck. I have created a monster in ie.http://www.dlaakso.com/chelsea.html. Works as intended in Opera and the Gecko's http://www.dlaakso.com/positioning.jpg. The relevant code(embedded hidden from mac/ie5.2) is: div#content div div div#thumbanchor Fair warning: the code is not for the faint of

[css-d] IE not clearing floats

2006-03-13 Thread Oliver Hodgson
Hi all, I'm usually good at working around bugs in IE's rendering engine, but this one's got me stumped. I've put up a simplified test case here: http://lyxus.net/cox [1] I've got a dl element. Each of it's dt elements is floated left, while each of the dd elements is floated right. The dt is

Re: [css-d] IE not clearing floats

2006-03-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Oliver Hodgson wrote: Hi all, I'm usually good at working around bugs in IE's rendering engine, but this one's got me stumped. I've put up a simplified test case here: http://lyxus.net/cox [1] I've got a dl element. Each of it's dt elements is floated left, while each of the dd elements

[css-d] Wrapping images in containers without widths?

2006-03-13 Thread Austin, Darrel
Is there away to wrap an image in a container (span or div) without having to give the span or div an explicit size? DIVs by default, of course, are wrapping the height of the image just fine, but want to take up the full horizontal space of the parent container. SPANs seem to be doing the

Re: [css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Dorward wrote: CSS 2 is the most recent (finished) version of CSS. 2.1 is currently a working draft. 3 is currently a large collection of different modules at different stanges in development, but only four seem to have reached Candidate Recomendation status (which I believe means

Re: [css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Dorward wrote: CSS 2 is the most recent (finished) version of CSS. 2.1 is currently a working draft. 3 is currently a large collection of different modules at different stanges in development, but only four seem to have reached Candidate Recomendation status (which I believe means

Re: [css-d] font-size and forms (input and select)

2006-03-13 Thread Maziak, Peter \(Tek Systems\)
Zoe, I agree that's the way it should work, but in reality it does not. In FF and IE6, the select and input do not inherit: http://www.msu.edu/~maziak/umg/selectInput3.html (I used a base of 10px, and then a class of font-size:3em and color:red to be obvious.) I'll stick with adding

[css-d] Site Review

2006-03-13 Thread KE Bracken
Hello - I am new to the list and a relative newbie to CSS - I'm at the tail end of my first paid gig for the layout of a site and would appreciate feedback. There are 3 stylesheets involved. The big problem(s) I had (and still have) regard tables and form elements. I wanted to avoid tables for

Re: [css-d] Dropdown menu disappearing in IE

2006-03-13 Thread Ann Adamcik
I'm trying to implement the Son of Suckerfish dropdowns, and in IE my second-level menu disappears if I mouse past the first menu item. The page is here: http://indigopear.com/Clients/CollabMed/template.html css is here: http://indigopear.com/Clients/CollabMed/style.css You may want

Re: [css-d] Wrapping images in containers without widths?

2006-03-13 Thread Roger Roelofs
Dartel, On Mar 13, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Austin, Darrel wrote: Is there away to wrap an image in a container (span or div) without having to give the span or div an explicit size? ... SPANs seem to be doing the opposite...wrapping the width, but not the height. I would expect spans to wrap

[css-d] OT: Please would the list owner get in touch

2006-03-13 Thread css
Hi, Looked for the list owner's address on the website and the joining email but can't see it. I am getting two copies of everything, a few minutes apart, but I should only be signed up once. Also, I got a mail sometime after my last posting, telling me which addresses had not received it - I

Re: [css-d] IE not clearing floats

2006-03-13 Thread Oliver Hodgson
-Original Message- From: Thierry Koblentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've put up a simplified test case here: http://lyxus.net/cox [1] I believe you'll get better results across browsers by floating the DDs *left* as well. I thought that had fixed it but alas not. While that works

Re: [css-d] Wrapping images in containers without widths?

2006-03-13 Thread Austin, Darrel
I would expect spans to wrap with and height as long as you count the space for the tails of p and y as images sit in the text baseline. Do you have a test page or other url we can play with? http://www.darrelaustin.com/stuff/spanTest/ I have an image surrounded by 3 spans all with

Re: [css-d] IE not clearing floats

2006-03-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Oliver Hodgson wrote: -Original Message- From: Thierry Koblentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've put up a simplified test case here: http://lyxus.net/cox [1] I believe you'll get better results across browsers by floating the DDs *left* as well. I thought that had fixed it but alas

Re: [css-d] IE not clearing floats

2006-03-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Oliver Hodgson wrote: -Original Message- From: Thierry Koblentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've put up a simplified test case here: http://lyxus.net/cox [1] I believe you'll get better results across browsers by floating the DDs *left* as well. I thought that had fixed it but

Re: [css-d] Wrapping images in containers without widths?

2006-03-13 Thread Roger Roelofs
Darrel, On Mar 13, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Austin, Darrel wrote: I would expect spans to wrap with and height as long as you count the space for the tails of p and y as images sit in the text baseline. Do you have a test page or other url we can play with?

Re: [css-d] Wrapping images in containers without widths?

2006-03-13 Thread Brian Funk
on 3/13/2006 10:16 AM Austin, Darrel said the following: Is there away to wrap an image in a container (span or div) without having to give the span or div an explicit size? What if you floated the div? That will shrink wrap the div to content. -- Brian Funk

Re: [css-d] Website critique

2006-03-13 Thread Brian Funk
on 3/10/2006 4:47 PM Keith Cox said the following: Would appreciate any comments or suggestions on http://website1.keithcoxdesign.com Site looks great in FF1.5 on Win2K until any kind of text size increase is applied. Then the text breaks out all over See screenshots below(only one ctr +

[css-d] Question about validation

2006-03-13 Thread jblanchard
I have the following; #footer a:link { background-color : transparent; color : #ff; } I use the W3C CSS Validation and it gives the warning; Line : 211 (Level : 1) You have no background-color with your color : #footer a:link And yet there is a background-color, it's just

Re: [css-d] Reliable Dropdowns?

2006-03-13 Thread Frank Van Damme
On 3/9/06, Christian Heilmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you nest a full menu in an inline element like span? Even more interesting, how do you nest a lot of other links inside a link? This solution helps for tooltips, not for menus... Bury an ul inside it. Or rather: replace the span

Re: [css-d] Question about validation

2006-03-13 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 13/03/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet there is a background-color, it's just transparent. I understand that it is only a warning, but does the validator not recognize transparent as a color? I have several of the background-color warnings, but I am supposing that the

Re: [css-d] Question about validation

2006-03-13 Thread ian
Tony Crockford wrote: As a side issue, why declare it as transparent when transparent is the default? (topstyle user? - BTDT ;o) ) My guess would be that it overrides the normal a:link setting which might indeed have a background color?

[css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread David Pratt
Hi I have a three column layout where I am placing two or three column text in the main (center) column. These text areas floated left. It works fine on all browsers except IE. I am trying to clear the float with div style=clear: left/div following each two or three column text area but it

[css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread James Smith
Hi all... After much hair-pulling I can't seem to find a fix for this... www.ceridian.co.uk - In the latest version of Opera I have overlapping problems on the images contained inside the blue boxes which are on each of the top-level pages (and the home page). I have tried adding

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread Els
David Pratt wrote: Hi I have a three column layout where I am placing two or three column text in the main (center) column. These text areas floated left. It works fine on all browsers except IE. I am trying to clear the float with div style=clear: left/div following each two or three

Re: [css-d] styling SELECT in IE

2006-03-13 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 13/03/06, Maziak, Peter (Tek Systems) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Older posts (circa 2002*) indicate there is no way to style border, padding, z-index, etc on a SELECT in IE (because it is an active-x control). Has anyone seen different since? Not as far as I am aware, although there are

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
James Smith wrote: www.ceridian.co.uk - In the latest version of Opera I have overlapping problems on the images contained inside the blue boxes... The site works great in FF and IE (with hacks of course) Sorry, but am I missing something here, or are you in the middle of a live

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread David Pratt
Hi Els. I have tried both clear:left and clear:both. I will put something up on a server shortly so you can see this. It is strictly an IE Windows problem. The layout works properly on Safari, Netscape Win, Firefox Win, Firefox Mac, Opera Win and Mac, and IE Mac. It works fine on Windows

Re: [css-d] Wrapping images in containers without widths?

2006-03-13 Thread Austin, Darrel
What if you floated the div? That will shrink wrap the div to content. Yep. That did it. Thanks! -Darrel __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub --

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread James Smith
http://www.ceridian.co.uk Georg wrote: Sorry, but am I missing something here, or are you in the middle of alive debugging-process?Opera 8.5 ( 9tp2) looks fine.IE6 looks fine - apart from being given unreadable small text.Firefox 1.5.0.1. not good - image covers text and menu drop-downs.Hi

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Ingo Chao
James Smith wrote: www.ceridian.co.uk - I doubt that this problem is within CSS. Does Flash work with wmode=transparent on Opera? Don't know where to search for information. MM website? Opera Forums? Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread James Smith
James Smith wrote:www.ceridian.co.uk - I doubt that this problem is within CSS. Does Flash work with wmode=transparent on Opera? Don't know where to search for information. MM website? Opera Forums? Ingo Hi Ingo, thanks for the idea, but I think the problem is with the CSS, because

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: I doubt that this problem is within CSS. Does Flash work with wmode=transparent on Opera? Sorry. Should read Does the Flash plugin work with wmode=transparent on Opera for Mac 8.51/9TP2?. Can't check in PC for the moment. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

Re: [css-d] tools for determining results of the cascade

2006-03-13 Thread bj
Are there any other tools out there that you're using (besides your brains) that help you figure out the results of the cascade for elements on a Web page? do you have firefox? if so, this extension is invaluable to me: http://forums.asp.net/1224049/ShowPost.aspx Apparently this post has

Re: [css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread David Dorward
On 13/03/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So currently it makes sense for CSS 2 to be the default profile. Not so sure about that, as support by browsers is no good if designers are thrown off by being told it isn't valid. OTOH is it such a good idea to encourage the use of new

Re: [css-d] Question about validation

2006-03-13 Thread David Dorward
On 13/03/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #footer a:link { background-color : transparent; color : #ff; } I use the W3C CSS Validation and it gives the warning; Line : 211 (Level : 1) You have no background-color with your color : #footer a:link And yet there is

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Ingo Chao
James Smith wrote: Hi Ingo, thanks for the idea, but I think the problem is with the CSS, because it occurs on the other top-level pages which contain images instead of flash - for example: http://www.ceridian.co.uk/hr/nav/1,4102,108,00.html You are right. http://www.ceridian.co.uk/

Re: [css-d] positioning thumbs-- ie ::~dL

2006-03-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
Els wrote: ~davidLaakso wrote: Stuck. I have created a monster in ie.http://www.dlaakso.com/chelsea.html. Works as intended in Opera and the Gecko's http://www.dlaakso.com/positioning.jpg. The relevant code(embedded hidden from mac/ie5.2) is: div#content div div div#thumbanchor AFAICS,

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
James Smith wrote: I only just discovered that problem with Opera. I am using v.8.53 and there is definitely a problem with the images overlapping the text. Well, I never took Opera 8 (pre 9) seriously, but I could not see the problem in my Opera 8.50 on win2K-pro. Looks and works the same as

Re: [css-d] Confused re: validation

2006-03-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Dorward wrote: OTOH is it such a good idea to encourage the use of new features which aren't yet stable in the spec? For commercial sites... maybe not. However, if we look at how much of the 'stable css', that's in normal use, that's handled pretty unstable by some browsers, then early

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread David Pratt
Hi Els. I put the file up at: http://ce12566576.17.psi.zettai.net/test.html I included the css in the html file to keep things as simple as possible and included a three column text block. This layout only fails under IE Windows. I am hoping this float issue is something that won't be too

[css-d] CSS Dropdown Menu 'bleeding' vertical lines

2006-03-13 Thread Tracy Shorrock
Hi again, Can anyone please help me solve the problem I'm seeing in Firefox - it's got to be something to do with padding, margin, or border. I've was up all last night trying to solve the @!*! thing, but just don't seem to be able to find the root of the problem. Screenshot from Firefox on

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ce12566576.17.psi.zettai.net/test.html included a three column text block. This layout only fails under IE Windows. I am hoping this float issue is something that won't be too difficult to resolve. I have tried the things I know to clear the left

Re: [css-d] CSS dropdown menu + Accessibility Issue

2006-03-13 Thread Tracy Shorrock
On Monday, March 13, 2006, at 04:32 am, Felix Miata wrote: Dropping Verdana and Helvetica from your styles would also be excellent: Hi Felix, That's a shame... I use Verdana a lot. Although I have used Trebuchet MS for the main text in this case, and Arial for the links. Verdana is only

Re: [css-d] CSS dropdown menu + Accessibility Issue

2006-03-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/03/13 21:30 Tracy Shorrock apparently typed: On Monday, March 13, 2006, at 04:32 am, Felix Miata wrote: Dropping Verdana and Helvetica from your styles would also be excellent: That's a shame... I use Verdana a lot. Although I have used Trebuchet MS for the main text in this case,

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
David Pratt wrote: Hi Els. I put the file up at: http://ce12566576.17.psi.zettai.net/test.html I included the css in the html file to keep things as simple as possible and included a three column text block. This layout only fails under IE Windows. I am hoping this float issue is

Re: [css-d] CSS Dropdown Menu 'bleeding' vertical lines

2006-03-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
Tracy Shorrock wrote: Screenshot from Firefox on Mac: http://www.freelancealot.co.uk/test/bleeding.jpg http://www.freelancealot.co.uk/test/layout_2col.html. http://www.freelancealot.co.uk/test/css/menuh.css. If you look at the menu closely in Firefox as you move your mouse along the ul ul

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
David Pratt wrote: Holly Bergevin wrote: From: David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ce12566576.17.psi.zettai.net/test.html Hi Holly. This is really great! It is hard to see the forrest from the trees at times. I guess I was too focused on believing it was a float issue. This

[css-d] Please Remove me from the list.

2006-03-13 Thread Cory Perry
Please remove me from the list. Thanks, Cory Perry 9mmCreative http://www.9mmcreative.com/ 864.905.4749 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub --

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread David Pratt
David Pratt wrote: Holly Bergevin wrote: From: David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ce12566576.17.psi.zettai.net/test.html included a three column text block. This layout only fails under IE Windows. I am hoping this float issue is something that won't be too difficult to resolve. I have

Re: [css-d] Two / Three columns float clearing in IE in 3col layout

2006-03-13 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. Just a note to say I have reposted the updated the page at: http://ce12566576.17.psi.zettai.net/test.html with the changes you have suggested. I have validated it for xhtml in the meantime. There are still a couple of quirks in IE. I have not got the

Re: [css-d] tools for determining results of the cascade

2006-03-13 Thread Jesper Brunholm
Are there any other tools out there that you're using (besides your brains) that help you figure out the results of the cascade for elements on a Web page? do you have firefox? if so, this extension is invaluable to me: http://forums.asp.net/1224049/ShowPost.aspx Apparently this post