Alex Robinson wrote:
http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/cssjunk/ie8/xua
In a nutshell, IE8's emulation of IE6 and IE5 does not appear to be
off to a flying start.
1. Box model not honoured when targeting IE6 and in standards mode
2. Parsing errors not replicated when targeting IE5.
Can
Hi Everyone
If you have two or more tabs open, IE8 will only toggle different modes for the
first tab, regardless of if your viewing the second or third tab along.
Alan
http://css-class.com/
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Alex Robinson wrote:
2. Parsing errors not replicated when targeting IE5.
div#parsing
{
...
background: #ffcc00;
backg\round: #006633;
...
Real IE5 colours the div yellow, emulated IE5 gets carried away
and repaints it green.
...
So it looks
Mark Richards wrote:
I'm curious as to why you're targeting various IEs with hacks when
conditional comments let you do the same thing? Especially if the hacks
are used to import external sheets in the first place, it seems to me
it's easier to just use CCs to load browser-specific fix-up
Alex Robinson wrote:
http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/cssjunk/ie8/xua
In a nutshell, IE8's emulation of IE6 and IE5 does not appear to be
off to a flying start.
1. Box model not honoured when targeting IE6 and in standards mode
2. Parsing errors not replicated when targeting IE5.
Can
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:50:06 +
Alex Robinson wrote:
http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/cssjunk/ie8/xua
In a nutshell, IE8's emulation of IE6 and IE5 does not appear to be
off to a flying start.
1. Box model not honoured when targeting IE6 and in standards mode
2. Parsing errors not
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Alan Gresley wrote:
IE8 in IE5 quirks mode will not honor any escapes in the background property.
http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/8/escapes2.htm
Maybe they just chose to support particular properties?
As I wrote in another message, I believe this is
Bruno Fassino wrote:
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Alan Gresley wrote:
IE8 in IE5 quirks mode will not honor any escapes in the background
property.
http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/8/escapes2.htm
Maybe they just chose to support particular properties?
As I wrote in
Hi Everyone
There is a IE8 bug with overflow on floated elements. On this page.
http://css-class.com/test/css/overflow/floated-overflow-length-with-inner-box-float.htm
Enter the page in IE8 mode, either of these can happen.
1. If the box is scrollable the scroll slowly right and then slowly
Hi Everyone
This is may be important for anyone using a Suckerfish menu or left:auto. All
IE/Win versions including IE8 in some case can not properly offset auto.
IE8 had indeed fixed the Recalculated Offset bug (that's why the IE team kept
of visiting that page).
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alan Gresley wrote:
Bruno Fassino wrote:
As I wrote in another message, I believe this is intended. Quirks mode
in IE6, IE7 has always worked as such, i.e. NO emulation of that (and
others) E5 parsing problems.
All course, never though about that.
On 6 Mar 2008, at 19:23, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:
On 6 Mar 2008, at 16:52, Ernie Finlay wrote:
In my IE6,everything looks OK.
Content is on the left and sidebar is on the right,starting out at
the same level.
I was testing it at school, at 800x600. Also, playing around more
makes me
Bruno Fassino wrote:
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alan Gresley wrote:
Bruno Fassino wrote:
As I wrote in another message, I believe this is intended. Quirks mode
in IE6, IE7 has always worked as such, i.e. NO emulation of that (and
others) E5 parsing problems.
All
-gets to work-
I have a question on the .footer validation. I have before used a
background color, when designing in HTML in a section or a page
underneath a background graphic, just in case the graphic failed to
load, then the text would still be visible. Is that improper to do
in css?
Phoebe Taylor wrote:
-gets to work-
I have a question on the .footer validation. I have before used a
background color, when designing in HTML in a section or a page
underneath a background graphic, just in case the graphic failed to
load, then the text would still be visible. Is that
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Alan Gresley wrote:
http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/cssjunk/ie8/xua
Enter the page in IE8 mode. The last test will show the blue and green line
shorter. In IE7 strict mode all is well.
In IE5 quirks mode all test shows the blue and green line shorter.
Ok. And
Hello all,
I'm having a weird CSS behavior that is happening only in IE7. It's a
box that having rounded corners on both top-left bottom-left sides.
The problem is that one of the rounded corner images always jumps off
its original place and spans into the content area.
Here's a screenshot of
Wow, learning a lot here. Now things validate. I simplified all the
background tags, and I'll go through and attempt the font tags later
today. (have to go out this afternoon).
Thank you, Mr. Lasko. :)
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Phoebe Taylor wrote:
Wow, learning a lot here. Now things validate.
re: http://www.cgraytaylor.net/
Awesome.
Interested in raising the bar another notch?
Best,
~dL
PS Ain't no mister hereabout. Just another bozo on the back of the bus.
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It's all about the user data, baby! We've got no people using anything
lower than IE6, so I test IE6, IE7, Firefox, Safari, Opera, and that's about
it. However, I'd really like to know how to test for those several WebTV
users we have visit our site every month (I didn't even know it still
If you want an ornate frame, for example, where parts of it overlap the image,
set the picture as the background image, then place the frame image over the
top.
For example, each page loads a different image. This is called image.jpg in the
block below (just replace with your image name).
div
Hi everyone,
The bullets in the list appear on the last line of the sentence instead of on
the beginning of the sentence. This only happens in IE because in Firefox the
bullets work fine.
http://studev.lagcc.cuny.edu/stm/stm03/stm/students.htm
The css for the list:
#inContent {
width:
On 7/03/2008, at 8:29 AM, david wrote:
Karl Hardisty wrote:
On 6/03/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower.
My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less
than IE6.
And if they do, well, it's just time for an
In IE6 all lines are of equal length. So this would mean that IE8
is emulating the quirks modes different to how
IE6 and IE7 handle quirks mode. Is this correct?
Nope. Or rather I don't think so. I think your original suggestion was correct.
ie. IE=5 actually causes IE8 to emulate IE6 in
On 6 Mar 2008, at 18:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[KK]
He should look into iCab: it's been around since system 7, the Mac
Classic version was last updated on 1 January *2008*, it runs
quite well on older Macintosh operating systems, and it supports
enough CSS (among Other Things) to
Hi all.
I have been lurking for a while, posted once, but didn't really
introduce myself.
Are we supposed to?
I am really new to CSS, have read about 3 books on the subject and
taken one course,
but still feel very shaky with it.
My site is http://www.strongwatermedia.com
Ryan N wrote:
Hello all,
In developing this menu I have encountered a problem with a couple different
implementations of the code. Everything look fine in Firefox, Opera, and
Safari yet IE (6 and 7) displays a 2-pixel gap underneath the li whenever
a second-level menu item contains and
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Alex Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ie. IE=5 actually causes IE8 to emulate IE6 in quirks mode. End of story.
My error was to use documents in standards mode as the reference
point. I have now updated
http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/cssjunk/ie8/xua
Hi Carrie,
Always start with a minimalist HTML or XHTML file.You have some unnecessary
span tags in your markup.
Check to make sure your page validates before you style anything. I'm not
saying your page doesn't validate, but step 2 is validation which rules out
broken tags and other issues that
Alex Robinson wrote:
IE=8
---
The only hack / target combination which does not jibe, is the fact
the *+html hack also gets applied by IE8 when targeted as IE=8.
To repeat *+html targets IE8[0]. Since this only
I mostly agree, but not on the Rendered by IE 7 and quirks
combinations. Your documents now have an xml declaration at the
beginning which puts IE6 in quirks mode, but NOT IE7.
The Rendered by IE 7 row should be exactly as the Rendered by IE 6 row.
The screengrabs I'm using are exactly how IE7 (a
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Alex Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, I see what you mean. The way I have made it go into quirks mode
is not actually making IE7 go into quirks mode. My lazy bad. I'll
change it so it actually uses a quirks-causing doctype.
Done.
You're right
adriana escandon wrote:
The bullets in the list appear on the last line of the sentence
instead of on the beginning of the sentence. This only happens in IE
because in Firefox the bullets work fine.
http://studev.lagcc.cuny.edu/stm/stm03/stm/students.htm
You can add...
#inContent ul li
At this point I think it's hard to say if with X_UA IE=5IE8 is
emulating IE7 quirks or IE6 quirks, simply because the two are hardly
distinguishable (I guess is more IE7 than IE6.)
Yes, my previous claim that we know it's IE6 was founded on the
assumption that I was serving quirks mode
T wrote:
If you want an ornate frame, for example, where parts of it overlap the
image, set the picture as the background image, then place the frame image
over the top.
For example, each page loads a different image. This is called image.jpg in
the block below (just replace with your
I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions on this 6 page comprehensive
layout for an industrial site. The marketing target is the IE browsers.
Mac/IE5.2 gets it right.
/Known Issue:/ 147.69 second download on a 56K modem (the images will be
optimized in the production version).
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Alex Robinson wrote:
When X-UA is IE=7 or 8 and the doc is in quirks mode, then things go
slightly awry.
[...]
But in quirks mode, IE8 ignores both * html and * + html (again for
both IE=7 and IE=8).
You now have your quirks mode documents with no
Hi! I received a great tip from here a little while ago on how to make a
colum expand to 100% height. I'm now applying this to another design, but
I'd like about 10px padding on the bottom, no matter how high the column is
expanded.
Please see
I thought I had this design looking o.k. in IE and FF, but the navigation
bar displays strangely in Netscape:
http://www.blackfootchallenge.org/am/publish/newsite/index.php
When you roll over a link in the navigation bar, the whole page shifts
upward. Also, the spacer between the two different
Hi everyone
After a bit of a prod I will announce that I have discovered the first parsing
of invalid selectors in IE8. I worked them out from my use of these imports.
/*\*//*/
@import url(test-ie8.css);
@import(test-ie.css); /* For IE/Mac */
@import test-ie; /* For IE/Win */
Please close any
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 3:58 PM, David Laakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions on this 6 page comprehensive
layout for an industrial site. The marketing target is the IE browsers.
Mac/IE5.2 gets it right.
/Known Issue:/ 147.69 second download on a 56K
re: http://www.cgraytaylor.net/
Awesome.
Interested in raising the bar another notch?
Best,
~dL
PS Ain't no mister hereabout. Just another bozo on the back of the bus.
--
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Sure, I'd be up for it. :)
Just let me know what the next challenge
Bruno Fassino wrote:
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Alex Robinson wrote:
Ah, I see what you mean. The way I have made it go into quirks mode
is not actually making IE7 go into quirks mode. My lazy bad. I'll
change it so it actually uses a quirks-causing doctype.
Done.
You're right
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:38:59 -0600, Rafael wrote:
T wrote:
[···]
Use .png for the frame, cos it has excellent transparency support.
Yet another reason not to use it: PNG images don't work in IE6 (and, although
we all
regret this, IE6 is still the dominant browser in the real world).
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Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:58 PM
To: css discuss
Subject: [css-d] :: layout check :: ~dL
I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions on this 6 page comprehensive
Here's a way to get png transparency to work in IE6:
http://jake.cfwebtools.com/2007/09/17/ie6-png-transparency-fix/
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Hello David,
It was foretold that on 08/03/2008 @ 18:58:15 GMT-0500 (which was
20:58:15 where I live) David Laakso would write:
snipped a bit
I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions on this 6 page comprehensive
layout for an industrial site. The marketing target is the IE browsers.
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/mentor/
I think the 6th row of the table is missing a last cell.
Also, I think you could do a better use of the summary attribute, maybe by
using something like: This table charts our Distributors and Dealers along
with
Luc wrote:
Hello David,
It was foretold that on 08/03/2008 @ 18:58:15 GMT-0500 (which was
20:58:15 where I live) David Laakso would write:
snipped a bit
I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions on this 6 page comprehensive
layout for an industrial site. The marketing target is
At 10:36 PM -0500 3/8/08, David Laakso wrote:
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/mentor/
One thing I noticed (and I was surprised by this since you have a link to
Lynx in the footer) is that the site is difficult to navigate via the
keyboard.
HTH,
Hi David,
Thanks to all who have taken time to review the layout. The owner of the
site and I will consider all of the comments and suggestions presented--
even those having nothing to do with the mission or purpose of this
list: the practical discussion of CSS and its use.
~dL
I'd appreciate any
On 3/5/08, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael B Allen wrote:
I have content that is centered on the page. Problem is - when a user
switches between a page that does not have a vertical scroll bar and
one that does (because the content fits within the browser window or
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