[CTRL] Evelyn Paglini on Art Bell

1999-10-01 Thread Steve Wingate

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Evelyn Paglini
The Dark Side of Magic
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Mind Control and Secret Societies, live.

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[CTRL] The Russian art of war

1999-10-01 Thread Nicky Molloy

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The Russian art of war
The Final Phase by JR Nyquist




© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

For years, we have heard that the Russian Army is a backward, ill-equipped,
rag-tag force. But Col. General Anatoly Sitnov paints a different picture.
At a Tuesday press conference, Sitnov revealed that the Russian military now
has "a rich new arsenal" to test. In this context, because of the civil war
in Russia's south, Dagestan and Chechnya have become giant test ranges.
Already the Russians have used the upgraded SU-25 attack aircraft against
Chechen targets. "If there is ground combat," announced Sitnov, "we will
test the Shark [helicopter gunship] as well as other weapons. We will also
use advanced gear, such as night vision goggles and new firearms, including
the new sniper rifles with increased range ... and also [we have] tanks
which provide better protection from the enemy in close combat."

How can this be?

In the early days of the Yeltsin presidency, a curious announcement went
largely unnoticed in the West: The Russian government admitted to an
increase in armaments spending. While the Kremlin cut back its troop numbers
to save money, and while it held back pay to hundreds of thousands of
soldiers, it nonetheless decided to modernize its military equipment.
Russian soldiers might live in desperate conditions for a few years, and the
army might fall to a quarter of its Cold War strength, but in the next war
they would have the most advanced weapons.

One of the costs of maintaining a large army is the cost of paying the
soldiers. The other great cost is that of purchasing new weapons. The
solution to Russia's military backwardness was therefore simple: Neglect the
soldiers while you upgrade the weapons. Once the weapons are upgraded, go
back to paying the soldiers -- and fill up the armed forces with recruits.

Col. Stanislav Lunev, a defector from the Main Intelligence Directorate of
the Russian General Staff, noted over a year ago that Russia had as many
generals as it did at the height of the Cold War. "It takes eight weeks to
make a soldier," said Lunev, "but it takes two years to make a division
commander." In other words, Russia's military build-down was equivocal from
the start. Russia created a mechanism for rapidly mobilizing millions of men
in a short time and putting them into ready-made combat divisions. Today we
see that a mobilization is taking place, masked at first by the Yugoslav
crisis, then by the current civil war in Russia's south.

The details of Russia's mobilization are fuzzy, the extent of the buildup
has been blurred, but it is nonetheless taking place. Hundreds of thousands
of additional men have been put under arms since March. Russia's Black Sea
Fleet has been manned. The Kremlin's armed forces have engaged in many war
exercises, and now there are unprecedented joint naval maneuvers planned
with the Chinese Navy. It should be noted that China has been mobilizing
troops and ships as well.

But new conventional weapons and conventional mobilizations are nothing
compared with Russia's new weapons of mass destruction. Earlier this month,
the Russians launched a state-of-the-art ballistic missile. It lifted off
from Russia's west Arctic cosmodrome and traveled 6,000 miles before
slamming into a target range in Siberia. The missile scored a direct hit.

Russia's new Topol M is the world's finest strategic rocket. It was designed
to leave the earth's atmosphere, to glide through space and return to earth
with deadly precision. It was even built to evade interception. But the most
important fact about the Topol M has yet to be mentioned. The Topol M was
built for one purpose -- to attack America.

Russia's military is organized differently than the U.S. military. In
America, we have five services: the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines and Coast
Guard. In Russia, they also have five services: the Army, Air Force, Navy,
Strategic Rocket Forces and Air Defense Forces. This organizational
arrangement tells us a great deal. Russia's nuclear missiles have their own
dedicated service branch. Even more interesting, Russia has a special
anti-air and anti-ballistic missile service that is dedicated to shooting
down American bombers and missiles (the Air Defense Forces). In other words,
two of Russia's five service branches are entirely oriented towards nuclear
world war.

Russia's current defense minister, Igor Sergeyev, used to be the head of
Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces. His close friend and relative (by
marriage), General Yakovlev, is the current head of those forces. We need to
remember that Sergeyev and Yakovlev have been thoroughly schooled in Russian
nuclear war theory. You could even say that the theory and practice of
nuclear war was the "mother's milk" of their military education. And what
does Russian military theory teach about nuclear war? According to "Soviet
Military Strategy," the 

[CTRL] On SDI: Star Wars Testing Over The Pacific (fwd)

1999-10-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Friday, October 10, 1999 Edition from CNN.com

Missile smashup over Pacific seen as test on nuclear defense

WASHINGTON (AP) - An anticipated collision over the Pacific this
weekend is seen as the first test of a U.S. missile defense
system that critics argue could increase - not reduce - the
nuclear threat it aims to stop.

Launching Saturday night from a California base is a Minuteman
missile that has the potential to carry a nuclear warhead
anywhere in the 50 states. Some 4,300 miles (6,900 kilometers)
away in the Pacific Ocean, a booster rocket will fire an
interceptor.

If the two collide, at a combined speed of 16,000 mph (25,000
kph), the force would reduce both missiles to harmless space dust
140 miles (225 kilometers) above the earth.

The Minuteman has a dummy warhead and a decoy balloon.

The 4,500-mile-per-hour (7,240-kph) intercepting missile - a
55-inch-long (139-centimeter-long), 120-pound (54-kilogram)
device that looks like scuba diving equipment - is a
Raytheon-built Exoatomsopheric Kill Vehicle that will be fired
from Meck Island in the Marshalls.

Supporters of the land-based protective shield that will cost
tens of billions of dollars if fully deployed are looking for a
spectacular success. That would help compel approval by President
Bill Clinton or his successor, and set the United States on a
course of at least limited protection against outside nuclear
attack.

The most ardent proponents look to the test now scheduled
Saturday night as a first step toward reviving a space-based Star
Wars type system, although that is not part of current planning.

The limited ``hit-to-kill'' system is designed to knock down
missiles launched by rogue states or terrorists; it could not
ward off a multimissile attack from a major nuclear power. The
CIA says North Korea, Iran and Syria all are developing
long-range missiles that could hit the United States.

Saturday's test contrasts with earlier tests aimed at
shorter-range launches against U.S. troops in the field. Those
tests have missed more than they have hit.

The Pentagon is playing down expectations for the long-postponed
interceptor test, although even critics of the technology expect
a successful collision.

``This is mainly to see if we can actually hit something,'' said
Lt. Col. Rick Lehner, spokesman for the Pentagon's Ballistic
Missile Defense Organization.

``Even if we miss and we know exactly why we miss, we will
consider it a success,'' he said in an interview Wednesday.

Two more tests are scheduled before a June 2000 deployment
readiness review by the Pentagon and a presidential decision on
initial deployment, expected shortly thereafter.

At least two of the three have to intercept before the Pentagon
will go ahead with broader testing, Lehner said.

Whatever the outcome, the tests are raising political and
practical concerns.

``This represents a serious misalignment between prevailing U.S.
attitudes and prevailing international attitudes,'' said John
Steinbruner, a senior Brookings Institution analyst.

With more weapons and more ways of stopping them, the chance of
nuclear accident increases, Steinbruner said at a news briefing
sponsored by the Union of Concerned Scientists, which opposes the
testing.

Deployment of a possible 20 interceptors in Alaska by 2001, if
approved, would put the United States in violation of the
Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty with Russia, said Steinbruner.
Further deployments also are being considered for North Dakota.

He said the test itself is likely to bring protests from Russia
and China and increase resistance to any change in the ABM treaty
with Russia, which prohibits any system designed to defend the
whole country. The Clinton administration hopes to renegotiate
the treaty in order to allow a limited system.



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[CTRL] Britalnd : *Not* Welfare

1999-10-01 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Begin article
www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : Britain
Labour's "anti-poverty" audit aimed at final dismantling of British welfare
state
By Julie Hyland
1 October 1999
Back to screen version
The latest policy document from the Blair Labour government— Tackling Poverty:
Providing Opportunities for All —has been hailed as a "landmark". The first
report of an annual "poverty audit" is supposedly in line with Prime Minister
Tony Blair's pledge that his government will eradicate child poverty by 2020.
Launching the document, Social Security Secretary Alistair Darling said it
heralded "the most far-reaching campaign against poverty since Beveridge ...
for the first time a government is standing up to be counted setting specific
standards against which we will be judged tackling poverty and its causes."
Such bold claims deserve careful examination. The “Beveridge Report”, published
in December 1942, laid out the foundations of the post-war welfare state system
that existed in Britain without any real challenge until 1979. It was named
after Sir William Beveridge, who chaired the committee set up during the
wartime coalition government to examine social insurance schemes.
Published in December 1942, Social Insurance and Allied Services became the
basis for a system of universal state-run insurance, paid for by employers,
employees and government. Its stated objective was to eliminate "want" by
government establishment of a social safety net—a minimum subsistence
income—below which no one would be allowed to fall.
The proposals were part of a broader political framework adopted by the British
ruling class to ameliorate class antagonisms. This centred on a limited
redistribution of wealth from rich to poor, through progressive taxation
schemes.
The Conservative government of 1979 marked a fundamental break with this social
reformist agenda. As part of their free market policy, the Tories sought to
undermine the benefit system and ensure a redistribution of wealth back to the
rich. Whilst it achieved no small success on both fronts, it proved unable to
wholly eliminate the state-backed "social safety net" in the face of mounting
unpopularity. As government policy and economic restructuring increased
unemployment and social deprivation, the numbers eligible for welfare
assistance rose exponentially. By the end of 18 years of Tory rule, overall
public spending had fallen by just 4 percent.
Today, some 12 million people in Britain are officially designated as living in 
poverty, of these, 4 million are children. Big business and the rich regard the 
maintenance of the universal benefits system as an intolerabl
e tax on their own wealth and profits.
Labour's turgid 178-page document is a declaration of intent to finish dismantling the 
welfare state. At the centre of this lies the overturning of the conception of welfare 
provision as a universal right. Prime Minister
Blair's favoured theme is that of "no rights without responsibilities". This means 
that civil liberties and access to social provisions are increasingly determined by 
individuals and their families obeying government dict
ates. Benefits are to be paid only if an individual meets certain requirements; 
council housing will be allocated only to the "deserving", etc. According to Blair, 
moreover, the role of government is not to provide, but t
o "facilitate".
The report states that the current benefit system "has become part of the problem; not 
the solution". Its answer is to create a "pro-active" welfare state aimed at “getting 
people off benefits and into work”. Threats to w
ithdraw assistance are a prime means through which this is to be achieved. The 
document is filled with references, every three or four pages, to government 
initiatives such as the "New Deal" work-for-your-dole scheme.
Two of the four main points on which Labour says it wishes to be judged are in the 
reduction of the proportion of children living in households without a wage earner, 
and the proportion living in households with "relative
ly low income". This is shorthand for reducing the numbers in receipt of social 
security—not for raising living standards.
Whilst the report lists 40 indices of poverty and social exclusion, the pitiful rate 
currently paid in welfare benefits is not mentioned. Social security payments have 
been undermined to such an extent that current allowa
nces give a family of four £30 a week less than what independent experts consider the 
minimum needed for survival. This undermining of benefit rates is one of the primary 
causes of poverty, especially amongst children.
Labour's "welfare to work" policies centre on expanding the supply of a cheap labour 
workforce. The "working families tax credit" underscores this approach. The new tax 
credit is aimed at those having been forced off bene
fits, particularly mothers, who must take up low paid work. The government has 
triumphantly declared that this scheme will ensure a 

[CTRL] Interior Dept. files destroyed before probe (fwd)

1999-10-01 Thread ASu2431426

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Now its Fish and Wildlife Service !  Destruction of evidence.

Earlier in the week it was Laura Ingersoll at Department of "Justice" who
refuses to file bribery charges because "thats the way the system works"

Doesnt anyone in Washington have the guts to file felony charges against
these insolent bureaucrats?  Obstruction of justice is a felony

Congress sits there fat and happy posturing for TV while a private outfit
outfitt Judicial Watch actually goes into court.  Come Budget time Congress
increases budgets instead of slashing by 50%

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[CTRL] CIA security

1999-10-01 Thread Steve Wingate

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"The unit plans to fund new technologies designed to make it easier for the
CIA to datamine the countless documents, satellite photographs and
videotapes it has on file. Other high-tech firms will be handed money to
design products that will improve the agency's security safeguards. "

Oh yeah! Anything you say, CIA! We bE LIE Ve!

really

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http://www.thestandard.com/articles/display/0,1449,6669,00.html?06

This url states were the CIA is spreading to high tech corp. to spread seed
money amoung high tech firms
Reason.. it is to help the CIA keep better track of the information of data
for them. These high tech firms will handle money to design products for
safer security for the CIA. These new products is to improve the CIA
safeguards of security..
I wonder, what took them so long. Linda


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[CTRL] Jesse Ventura interview

1999-10-01 Thread Dave

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Ventura said drugs and prostitution should not be "imprisoning crimes"
because the government has more important things to do.

And he added: "The prohibition of drugs causes crime. You don't have to
legalize it, just decriminalize it. Regulate it. Create places where the
addict can go get it."

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Ventura Criticizes Organized Religion, Defends Tailhook
9.07 p.m. ET (0107 GMT) September 29, 1999 By Rochelle Olson
ST. PAUL, Minn. — In another reminder that Gov. Jesse Ventura is no ordinary
politician, the former wrestler told Playboy magazine that organized
religion is for "weak-minded people" and that the Navy's Tailhook sexual
harassment scandal was "much ado about nothing."

AP

In this April 7, 1986, photo, entertainer Elvira appears with Jesse 'the
Body' Ventura


He also said he believed President Kennedy was killed by the
"military-industrial complex" because he opposed intervention in Vietnam.

Ventura, who has gained national influence in the Reform Party since he
upset two veteran politicians in Minnesota's gubernatorial race last year,
aired his views on subjects ranging from beautiful women to what life in the
White House would be like.

The interview, conducted over three days this summer with contributing
editor Lawrence Grobel, appears in the November issue, which goes on sale
Monday.

Ventura said legalizing prostitution should be considered but is an
unpopular idea because of religion.

"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need
strength in numbers," the governor said. "It tells people to go out and
stick their noses in other people's business."

The governor, a former Navy SEAL who spent time in Southeast Asia in the
early 1970s, said he couldn't condone what happened during the Tailhook
Association's conference in 1991, when female Navy officers were groped and
fondled by aviators at a Las Vegas hotel. But he said he understood it.

"These are people who live on the razor's edge and defy death and do things
where people die," he said. "They're not going to consider grabbing a
woman's breast or buttock a major situation. That's much ado about nothing."

Grobel suggested it wasn't trivial for the women.

"So? You have to create these people for your own protection," Ventura said.

Ventura declined to detail his military service or answer whether he had
killed anyone, calling it an inappropriate question and "no one's business."

Ventura talked about the best part of his job — "It's good to be king," he
said. "The best thing is that there's no one in this state who can tell me
what to do."

And the worst: "You become a slave. I can't go anywhere without guards. You
become a prisoner of your own success."

Although he has said he doesn't plan to run for president next year, Ventura
said if he did, he would wait until summer to enter the race.

"I would let Gore and Bush hang each other with all the rope they have, to
the point where the public couldn't stand either of them. Their disapproval
ratings would skyrocket," he said. "Then you enter the race three months
before the election and take the whole thing."

But he wouldn't run because the president "lives in a jail cell. He's the
king of the jail cell. He's the most powerful man in the free world, but
he's not really free, is he?"

Ventura detailed his previously expressed belief that John F. Kennedy's
assassination was a conspiracy. He said he believes assassins were hired.
Playboy asked who hired them.

"I don't know if I want to get this on your tape. I don't want people to
think I'm some sort of erratic nut running the state of Minnesota. If you
truly want to know, I believe we did, the military-industrial complex. I
believe Kennedy was going to withdraw us from Vietnam and there were
factions that didn't want that," Ventura said.

Ventura said drugs and prostitution should not be "imprisoning crimes"
because the government has more important things to do.

And he added: "The prohibition of drugs causes crime. You don't have to
legalize it, just decriminalize it. Regulate it. Create places where the
addict can go get it."

Among the lighter subjects was how he would choose to come back in another
life. "If I could be reincarnated as a fabric, I would like to come back as
a 38-DD bra," Ventura said.

Ventura's spokesman, John Wodele, said the governor had not seen the Playboy
interview late Wednesday but was unlikely to comment. "The interview speaks
for itself," Wodele said.

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[CTRL] irs/ tax

1999-10-01 Thread Dave

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found on the net

Dave Hartley
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http://www.denial-of-due-process.com/tp/ref/protester_def.htm

Tax Protester Definitions
The IRS has an internal policy for the classification of some taxpayers as
"tax protestors."  A "tax protestor" is only someone classified by the
Internal Revenue Service in accordance with the IRS definition of "tax
protestor" per  'Illegal Tax Protester Schemes' below.


Because the IRS has no authority over the use or application of the English
language, and the phrase "tax protestor" is more commonly applied to two
types of people by the general populace:  People who refuse to pay certain
taxes or file tax returns, as a result of their research into the laws, and
their rights regarding this (and in some cases as a result of erroneous
beliefs and hearsay about their non-obligations regarding certain taxes),
and People who refuse to pay taxes in order to protest policies of the
federal government that are supported by those taxes (such as people who
refused to pay taxes during the Vietnam War).
So, in a nutshell, if you do not pay 'income tax' because your research into
your Rights and the respective laws have convinced you that you are not
legally or morally obligated to pay a tax on your income, you are a 'Tax
Protester' according to one or more of the popular definitions which are
prevalent today!


Reference
The Official "Illegal Tax Protester Schemes" are defined in the
law in the Internal Revenue Manual in Section 5431.4.  See below:

(It is interesting to note that the definitions below all require the common
condition of either sending in an IRS form of some sort, usually a 'return',
or only corresponding with the IRS via a letter or post card. What about
those individuals who do not correspond in any form or manner with the IRS?
It seems that they fall outside of the official definition of 'Tax
Protester' in the IR Manual.)

Illegal Tax Protester Scheme Definitions
1. Constitutional Basis---Refusal to include tax return information on Form
1040/1040A because of violation of Constitutional rights. In lieu of
information
required on Form 1040/1040A, the illegal tax protester either shows "--0--",
"none", "Object", or a Fifth Amendment annotation in all of the blanks or
will
include a broad general statement regarding his/her constitutional rights
(including 4th Amendment and 16th Amendment). This is commonly referred to
as a
Porth/Daly type return.
2. Fair Market Value---Reducing gross income because of declining value of
dollar. The gross income is listed on the face of the return and there is a
large adjustment to income which makes adjusted gross income small enough
for
standard deduction to eliminate taxable income. The adjustment to gross
income
is on Schedule D, Schedule of Capital Gains and Losses, or Form 2106,
Employee
Business Expenses, for Form 1040.
3. Gold/Silver Standard---Any return with a statement that only gold or
silver
backed currency can be taxed.
4. Blank Form 1040/1040A---These generally fall into two categories. In one
category the individual files a return with only a name and address, and
possibly signature, and Form(s) W-2 is attached. This scheme is usually
verified
upon correspondence with the taxpayer. In the second category the individual
files a return similar to the Porth type return, i.e. the lines contain
"object", "Fifth Amendment", etc., with the exception that Form(s) W-2 is
attached. In both instances, the return could or could not list marital
status
and/or exemptions.
5. Non-Payment Protest---Non-Payment or underpayment of tax based upon some
type
of protest statement written or attached to the return.
6. Protest Adjust---This is similar to Non-Payment Protest, in that the
return
contains specific unallowable items (e.g., deductions, exclusions, etc.)
identified to some type of protest.
7. Mail Order Ministries---Individual receives income from non-religious
sources
and declares that it is non-taxable because of "vow of poverty". This scheme
also involves returns where the individual includes all or substantially all
of
gross income as a contribution deduction on Schedule A of Form 1040. Some
individuals will complete Form 1040 and then take an unusually large
contribution deduction on Schedule A of Form 1040, normally 50% or more of
the
adjusted gross income.
8. Protester Letters and Cards---The receipt of letters and cards (without
tax
return) protesting the use of taxes for war, defense and/or other government
spending policies, and indicating that this will affect their reporting and
payment of taxes.
9. Family Estate Trust---The trusts are filed on Forms 1041. Terms such as
"family", "equity pure", "prime", or "constitutional" are used in the title
of
the trust. Income is from "wages" or "Contract" sources and deductions are
for
personal living expenses, such as housing, medical, auto, child care,
interest
or taxes. Generally, an individual will 

[CTRL] Promis, William Hamilton, Michael Riconosciuto, Wackenhut, Casolaro, Blue Grass Conspiracy

1999-10-01 Thread Dave

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Lots of interconnections.
Promis, William Hamilton, Michael Riconosciuto, Wackenhut, Casolaro, Blue
Grass Conspiracy.

Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

. "Arms for drugs, do you have proof?"

"Oh, yeah. It's a selfsupporting system, they don't have to go through
Congress ..."

"Michael," I pressed, "who ships the arms?" Riconosciuto quieted for a
moment, gathering his thoughts. "Let's start with Wackenhut. I didn't play
ball with Wackenhut so they poisoned the well for me. I'm in jail because I
worked for Wackenhut. The government has put together a very simple drug
case against me ... as if that's what I'm about, just a druggie."

"Tell me about Wackenhut."

"It's a security corporation headquartered in Coral Gables, Florida.
Wackenhut provides security for the Nevada nuclear test site, the Alaskan
pipeline, Lawrence Livermore Labs, you know, all the high security
government facilities in the U.S. They have about fifty thousand armed
security guards that work for minimum wage or slightly above.

"On the other hand, on the Wackenhut board of directors, they have all the
former heads of every government agency there ever was under Ronald Reagan
and George Bush; FBI, CIA, NSA, Secret Service, etc.

"You know, they've got retired Admiral Stansfield Turner, a former CIA
director; Clarence Kelley, former FBI director; Frank Carlucci, former CIA
deputy director; James Rowley, former Secret Service director; Admiral Bobby
Ray Inman, former acting chairman of President Bush's foreign intelligence
advisory board and former CIA deputy director. Before his appointment as
Reagan's CIA director, the late William Casey was Wackenhut's outside legal
counsel ..."

I interrupted him, wanting to know where HE fit into the picture?

"Well, I served as Director of Research for the Wackenhut facility at the
Cabazon Indian reservation in Indio, California. In 1983-84 I modified the
PROMISE computer software to be used in law enforcement and intelligence
agencies worldwide. A man named Earl Brian was spearheading a plan for
worldwide use of the software, but essentially, the modified software was
being pirated from the owners, Bill and Nancy Hamilton." (see chap. 5,
half-way down)

I asked, "So how did that cause your arrest?" Michael was articulate, but
his story was becoming complicated. He continued. "I signed an affidavit for
the Hamiltons stating that I had been responsible for the modification. The
House Judiciary Committee on Inslaw was investigating the theft of the
software and I was afraid I would be implicated since I had performed the
modification. Nine days later, in an attempt to discredit my testimony, I
was arrested for allegedly operating a drug lab."

I didn't want to push Riconosciuto on the subject of a drug lab at that
point, but voiced my foremost concern. "Will the House Judiciary Committee
be bringing you in to testify?"

"Eventually, yes."

"Are you in any danger where you are right now?" I was unaware at the time
that Riconosciuto had been recruited at Stanford University into the CIA
nearly twenty years earlier, and danger was a matter of fact in his life.


http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/chpt6pt1.html
On September 13, 1985, the Los Angeles Times published the story of
Thornton's death, entitled, "Former Narcotics Officer Parachutes Out of
Plane, Dies with 77 Pounds of Cocaine." The article said Thornton was
indicted in 1981 for "allegedly flying a plane to South America for a
reputed drug ring known as `The Company.'" In an interview with the Los
Angeles Times, Brian Leighton said, "I'm glad his parachute didn't open. I
hope he got a hell of a high out of that ..."

Thornton's mysterious death was discussed at length in a book written by
Sally Denton entitled, "The Blue Grass Conspiracy." Part of The Company was
headquartered in Lexington, Kentucky. Prosecutors in Lexington, Fresno,
California (Brian Leighton), and Miami, Florida were working together in a
joint effort to bring down The Company.

The San Francisco Chronicle noted that in January, 1982, Gene Berry, a state
prosecutor in Charlotte Harbor, Florida, was shot in the face as he answered
his door. Police subsequently arrested Bonnie Kelly as Berry's murderer.
Bonnie's husband, Mike McClure Kelly, was a suspected member of The Company
who later pleaded guilty in the Fresno, California case.

In Michael Riconosciuto's documents, I discovered a letter dated March 24,
1982, written on Cabazon letterhead to Michael McClure at Hercules
Corporation from Art Welmas, President of the Cabazon Band of Indians.
Copies (cc:) were also noted to Marshall Riconosciuto and Michael
Riconosciuto. The letter complimented McClure's competence in presenting a
clear and lucid explanation of a power pack under development at Hercules.
(Hercules was owned by Marshall Riconosciuto, Michael Riconosciuto and
Patrick Moriarty, the Red Devil fireworks mogul. More on Moriarty later.)


[CTRL] DEA seizes truckload of birdseed

1999-10-01 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

The states of Minnesota, North Dakota and Hawaii have all approved the
cultivation of industrial hemp, and the legislators in Illinois, Montana,
Virginia and California have approved resolutions endorsing the
recommercialization and growing of industrial hemp.

DEA goons are out of control, persecuting shipments of legal hemp-products
such as ...
birdseed !  Which DEA birdbrains have siezed a truckload of...

DEA and U.S. Customs conspiring to deny legal imports, attempting to mount
punitive campaign of fines.

Conspiracy appears to be at least in part targeted at popular Internet
startup firm NUTIVA, though in the larger scheme is merely illegal
harrassment which could likely be targeted at ANY firm promoting or selling
hemp products- which are VERY politically incorrect according to the
Magnates of Industry.
http://www.nutiva.com/
http://www.nutiva.com/news.html



other hemp sites:
http://www.hemptech.com/
http://www.hemptech.com/hdir.html
http://www.hempnation.com/
http://www.hemp.net/home.phtml
http://www.hemp.net/hipws/hipws.html
http://www.welcomehome.org/cohip.html


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

==

DEA Drug Hawks Swoop Down on Birdseed
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/sep99/1999L-09-30-03.html
DETROIT, Michigan, September 30, 1999 (ENS) - The U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration (DEA) has seized a tractor trailer of sterilized Canadian
hemp seed on its way to a large U.S. company that has been selling hemp
birdseed blends legally for years.

Following the August 9 seizure, U.S. Customs and the DEA demanded that
Kenex, Canada's largest producer and processor of industrial hemp products,
recall previous shipments of other hemp products such as oil, granola bars,
horse bedding and animal feed. Kenex is based in Paincourt, Ontario, 60
miles from Detroit.


Hemp seed (Photo courtesy Canadian Hemp Corp.)
U.S. Customs is threatening nearly $500,000 in fines against Kenex if the
recalled products are not redelivered to Detroit Customs in the next few
days. These fines are in addition to the fines and possible criminal charges
that may be laid in relation to the bird seed load itself. A 30 day
extension request to clarify the situation was denied by U.S. Customs.
The agencies have taken these actions even though all of the products are
exempt under the U.S. Controlled Substances Act, and many have been sold in
the United States for 60 years. There has never a time when sterilized hemp
seed or oil or meal was illegal.

The DEA, after repeated requests, refuses to provide Kenex with any legal
basis for the confiscation.

Kenex's president, Jean Laprise says, "Kenex, along with many other U.S.
companies are suffering irreparable damage due to the illegal actions taken
by the DEA and U.S. Customs. It seems the DEA could be spending the U.S.
taxpayer's drug war money in better ways than chasing after bird seed and
horse bedding."


Kenex president Jean Laprise (left), in a Kenex hemp field with former
Canadian Minister of Agriculture Noble Villeneuve (Photo courtesy Kenex)
Laprise says, "All the proper documentation has been supplied to Customs in
the past in accordance with our custom broker's instructions. Kenex has
always acted in good faith and has never violated any U.S. laws. Our legal
counsel has advised us that the DEA and U.S. Customs are acting in clear
violation of U.S. laws as well as NAFTA."
Industrial hemp has no drug qualities and is grown in 32 countries including
Canada, France, Germany, and England. The North American Free Trade
Agreement (NAFTA), mentions hemp as a strategic commodity. Currently, French
and German hempseed products are still entering the United States under the
same tariff code without problems.

Kenex is in the process of preparing the paperwork to file a complaint under
the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

Hemp foods are typically made from sterilized seed like that seized from
Kenex. It is impossible for the seed to ever contain any tetra hydro
cannabinol (THC), the psychoactive component in marijuana, which is produced
in the flowering tops of the female Cannabis Sativa L. plant. The THC
content in the fiber, leaf or flower of the industrial hemp plant is less
than one percent. By contrast, the THC content of the Cannabis Sativa bred
for marijuana production is around 10 percent.

Kenex's western U.S. broker and importer of hempseed products is Nutiva, a
Sebastopol, California based company. Nutiva has over 700 natural food
stores, manufacturers and restaurants utilizing hempseed.

Nutiva's hempseed bar, made with sunflower, hemp, flax and pumpkin seeds and
honey, has just surpassed 100,000 units sales, making it the top selling
hemp food in the U.S. John Roulac, president and founder of Nutiva, states,
"People love the nutty, chewy taste of our hempseed bars. Hempseed is rich
in protein, vitamin E and the heart healthy Omega 3 are an added bonus."


[CTRL] Drudge: Intercontintental Ballistic Missiles On Parade in China (fwd)

1999-10-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

From: www.drudgereport.com


snip

While reviewing the ranks, Jiang saluted the troops many times,
greeting: "Hello, comrades!" The soldiers at attention respond:
"Hello, comrade chairman!" Jiang said: "You comrades are working
hard!" The soldiers replied: "We are serving the people!"

"Long live great Marxism, Leninism, Mao Zedong thought and Deng
Xiaoping theory."

Jimmy Carter to Communist China: "I'm very proud of your
country..."

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

Strategic Nuke Missiles Brings March-past To High Notch


BEIJING (Oct. 1) XINHUA - A large procession of strategic
missiles, in four formations, gets on the move.

The appearance of the land-to-land missiles, 20 meters long and
some three meters in diameter, brings the military parade into a
climax.

These long-range, midium-range and inter-continental missiles are
believed to a powerful strategic weapon to deter any aggressors.


New Strategic Nuke Missiles Smaller


BEIJING (Oct. 1) XINHUA - In the procession of the strategic
weapons rumbling through the Chang'an boulevard, in central
Beijing, are vehicles-drawn strategic missiles whose size is
similar to that of tactical missiles that are parading ahead of
them.

An officer from the strategic missile troops, who is standing on
the platform in front of the Tian'anmen Rostrum, says that the
change in the size marks a remarkable progress in the development
of strategic weapons in China. These smaller nuke missiles are
maneuverable in any kinds of hard places like mountains, forests,
and deserts.


China-Parade-Fighter Bomber New Fighter Bombers Debut


BEIJING (Oct. 1) XINHUA - A new generation of strike fighters
independently manufactured in China are now flying over the
Tiananmen Square at an altitude of 750 meters.

The "Feibao", or "flying leopard" fighter bomber features high
altitude and high speed.

An arm of the navy air unit, this type of fighter bomber is used
not only for strategic bombing of ground targets but also for
direct assault at targets in the air.

Manufactured at the Xi'an Aircraft Manufacturer in northwest
China's Shaanxi Province, the fighter bomber staged a brief
flying performance during the '98 Air Exposition in Zhuhai, south
China. However, only a few people had the chance to have a look
at the strike fighter.


China Displays New Artillery Weapons


BEIJING (Oct. 1) XINHUA - Eight square formations of artillery
troops are passing by the Tiananmen Rostrum.

Among those displayed are howitzers, smoothbore guns, rocket
launchers, anti-aircraft guns and cannons. Only one type was seen
in the National Day parade in 1984, while all the others are
publicly displayed for the first time.

All of the artillery equipments are designed and manufactured in
China.

Artillery has become the largest force in the field army of the
Chinese armed forces.


Chinese-Made Aerial Refuel Tankers Debut In Military Parade


BEIJING (Oct. 1) XINHUA - Chinese-made aerial refuel tankers made
their debut here this morning in the National Day military
parade.

The aerial refuel tankers, each with a long refueling pipe, and
light fuel-receiving aircraft, howl past the Tian'anmen Square,
in central Beijing.

Gone are the days when the Chinese Air Force warplanes could not
be refueled in the air. And what's of strategic importance is
that the flying tankers have boosted the air force's long-range
combatibility.



Missiles Formations Highlight Military Parade BEIJING (Oct. 1)
XINHUA - Following artillery formations come the square
formations of missiles that belong to the three services of the
Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA).

The first square formation is of the surface-to-air missiles of
the army. The missiles are carried by vehicles, which remarkably
increase the maneuverability of surface-to-air missiles.

The soldiers of the first formation are from an anti-aircraft
brigade, the first anti-aircraft artillery troops of the Chinese
army which shot down 890 U.S. aircraft during the Korean and
Vietnamese wars.

Now the soldiers have had their ack-acks replaced by
sophisticated surface-to-air missiles.

The surface-to-air missiles displayed today are China's advanced
air defense weapons.

The second square formation of missiles, which look slim and
exquisite, are from the navy and normally carried by warships.
But today they are by vehicles.

Over the past five decades, the missile arms of the navy have
developed quickly. Now the naval force is capable of attacking
the enemy from the sea or from under the sea with conventional
and strategic missiles.

The last formation of missiles, each with a red head and green
body, are surface-to-air ones operated by the air force. They are
said to be one of the latest weapons for the Chinese troops and
are advanced by world standards.

In 1958, China established its first surface-to-air missile
troops to defend its aerial territory, which have shown their
strong capability in the past decades. So far, they have brought
down 

Re: [CTRL] Israel -- WANTED: Holy Blood

1999-10-01 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 poor poor Joshua2 complained:
  Poor poor Bill Kingsbury.  Since modern genetics has more or less
  disproved the most recent attempt to separate modern Jews from
  their history, namely the Bible and it geography, by debunking
  the * Jews are really Khazars * nonsense, he now has to fall back
  on quoting the Jewish encyclopedia circa 1905 to keep up the
  good work.

NEVER did I believe "the Jews are really Kazars."  Stop your lies.
Send all your pathetic whining to the author, kiddo, or get help.
You have nothing to fear -- except your desperate state of mind.
NEVER did I quote "the Jewish encyclopedia circa 1905."  Send all
your anxieties to the author, who quoted many Jewish *scientists*.


  Craniometry? Purity of Race? Round heads and Long Heads?
  Hittites? Armenians?  snip
  Wasn't craniometry laughed at as far back as the 1930's?

Are you thinking of the old Phrenology (skull bump analysis) ?
Otherwise, *prove* to us that Craniometry is "unscientific,"
if you suffer doubts.  And, what if the Jewish Encyclopedia
article *is* scientifically sound -- what then ?

Are Jewish Hittites and Jewish Armenians any *less* Jewish ?


  What happened to Khazars?  Don't I have postings from you
  proving that modern Jews are not Biblical Israel but Khazars?

Khazars, Schmazars.  If I posted anything that referred to some
*Jewish- authored* Khazar theory -- this is a THEORY list, and it
always was a THEORY list.  If Jewish-authored *theories* drive
you bananas, you're way too lost to think straight.


  You poor pathetic racist jerk.  No matter how you slice it,
  it still comes out the same.  I am, and you're not.

Obviously, you are a stressed out Jewish bigot.  But you're
the only "pathetic racist jerk" here -- and one of the WORST,
most Toxic examples this CTRL list has seen in well over a year.

As for whether "I am" [a Jew] -- your kind need not know.

Have you tried Holding Breath Therapy -- for your anxiety ?
Ask your poor poor therapist(s) for help.  Quick.


BK


  Joshua2
 



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[CTRL] Khazars - 1

1999-10-01 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999
 Subj: Khazars-1

 This articles is in 3 parts.  It is mainly a reprint from the 2nd
 issue of Tribesman.  Many of you have seen most of it before.  It is
 being sent out due to requests.  I have more information on the
 subject which I hope to process after Succoth.

 The articles is about the Khazars which is interesting in its own
 right but it also contains information concerning the Israselite
 origins of certain European peoples.

 Following this article will follow a number of postings briefly
 tracing Israelite groups from Scythia to western Europe.  These
 postings will also contain information concerning the Israelite
 origins of western peoples.



 THE KHAZARS: SOME NOTES FOR FURTHER STUDY.

 The Khazars were a small but powerful people who once ruled over
 portions of Russia and eastern Europe.  They (or at least many of
 their leaders) converted to Judaism, were eventually defeated and
 disappeared.  Their descendants were either assimilated amongst the
 Jews or became Sabbath-keeping and other "divergent" christians
 many (if not most) of whom in some way or other migrated to the
 west and to North America.  Other descendants of the Khazars may be
 scattered throughout the former area of the U.S.S.R. and in
 different parts of Europe.

 THE NUMBERS OF THE KHAZARS WERE NOT GREAT.  AN ESTIMATE SAYS THAT
 THEY NUMBERED ABOUT 50,000.  It may have been more but it could not
 have been excessively so.


 A knowledge of the Khazars is useful for several reasons.  Evidence
 exists that the Khazars were descended from the Lost Tribes of
 Israel.  There is also proof that they were related to peoples in
 northwest Europe.  It follows that evidence connecting northwest
 Europeans to Israel is strengthened when cognizance is taken of the
 Israelite ancestry of their Khazar brothers.


 The Khazars and Anti-Semites.

 Another reason for studying the Khazars is that anti-Semites and
 some assimilationist Jews claim that the present-day Jews came from
 the Khazars who they assume were non-Israelite.  Anti-Semites use
 their notion of the Khazars to allege that the Jews are impostors
 and not true descendants of Israel.  Some "Identity" groups also
 make this allegation.  So do the Arabs and some Negro anti-Semites.
 In the past some assimilationist Jews used the Khazar idea to claim
 that since their ancestors were not in Judah at a certain time
 therefore they were not culpable for whatever the Jews may or may
 not have done to the christian messiah.

 There is also an ideaological component some people wanting to
 present Judaism as a religion (more than an hereditary group) and
 the Khazars as non-Jewish converts emphasizing the fact that
 Judaism is open to all.


 KOESTLER

 There was a writer named Arthur Koestler who thought that by
 showing the Jews to be descended from the Khazars the Gentiles
 would stop hating the Jews since the Khazars were not in Palestine
 when Jesus was there.  Koestler read the sources but chose to
 emphasize those that were in line with his goal and even these were
 not so convincing.  Even so the book of Koestler (The Thirteenth
 Tribe) became a best seller and a favorite with anti-semites.  The
 book itself does not really prove anything but anti-semites love it
 since it purports to show that the Jews are not really the chosen
 people and this is therefore another reason to hate them.

 Koestler did not believe in the Bible so he dismissed legends that
 the Khazars were descended from the Lost Tribes as fantasies.  He
 was an atheist socialist or agnostic so any other "rational"
 simplistic explanation was preferable to him and to his idealogical
 goal.

 Kostler should have realized that:

There are some types who will hate Jews no matter what.

Some who will always be sympathetic.

Some inbetween who can swing either way.

Even though some of the most vicious haters of the Jewish people
have been Christians so too most of the few friends and allies
the Jews have had have been those who believe in the Bible
-whether Christian or not.


 The background for some of the ideas about the Khazars also
 concerns the Karaites of Russia.


 The Khazars and Karaites.

 The Khazars ruled over many peoples some of whom were also
 influenced by Hebraising tendencies.  In Judaism at that time there
 were two main streams.  There were Rabbinical Jews who parallel the
 Orthodox Jews of today.  They believed in the Bible and in its
 interpretation according to oral tradition.  They were homogeneous
 (and still are) and consistent in their basic beliefs and
 practices.  They usually managed to reach a consensus regarding the
 practical application of Biblical injunctions.  Another group were
 the Karaites who claimed to believe only in Scripture.  The
 Karaites, however, were actually eclectic and widely divergent
 amongst themselves in their 

[CTRL] Khazars, Picts, Scotland

1999-10-01 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999
 Subj: Picts-1

 Adapted mainly from chapter 13 of "Lost Israelite Identity."

 THE AGATHYRSI AND THE PICTS

 The AGATHYRSI came to Scotland from Scythia at an unknown (but
 possibly late) date.  The Agathyrsi in Roman times were considered
 to have crossed the sea to become forefathers of THE PICTS20
 though what proportion they actually composed of the people known
 to history as PICTS is uncertain.  The Agathyrsi at various stages
 had been reported of in different places:

 -- As being in the Pontus (i.e. in northeast Turkey) on the Black
Sea shore just west of the Caucasus Mountains;

 -- In the north on the Baltic Sea shore according to Ptolemy;

 -- and, under the name of Akatziri, in the north, to the south of
Estonia near the Baltic Seashore.

 -- Herodotus reported the Agathyrsi in Thrace and later
Irish-Scottish tradition (referring to the Picts as
"Cruithnigh") said that, "the Cruithnigh came from Thrace.
They were the children of Gleoin Mac Ercol, that is, of Gelonus,
son of Hercules, and were called Agathyrsi"21.  They were said,
in several accounts, to have sailed first to Ireland, then to
Scotland.

 The Gothic historian Jordanus said that the Akatziri (i.e.
 Agathyrsi) were a most brave nation.

 The Agathyrsi (Akatziri) were to form the nucleus of the Khazar
 people.  The Khazars converted to Judaism and at one stage became a
 world power.  Their centre was in southern Russia, i.e. in Scythia.
 Ethnically the Khazars were related to the Anglo-Saxons and
 Scandinavians.  Saksin the Khazar capital was known as "The Saxon
 City"22.  The Agathyrsi have been linked to the Goths23.  Caucasian
 "Subarian traditions maintain that the Agathyrsians originated in
 Assur"24 i.e. there exists a tradition that the Agathyrsians came
 from Assyria and this is consistent with their having been
 Israelites who were exiled to Assyria and re-settled by the
 Assyrians on the fringes of their Empire.  Herodotus relates the
 notion that the Agathyrsians, Scythians, and Gelonians were
 brothers, sons of Hercules and a serpent woman.

 The Khazars of whom the Agathyrsians formed a nucleus are described
 by Arab authors as consisting of three types:  1. A dark haired,
 dark-complexioned one "like Hindus";  2. A dark haired, and light
 pale-skinned one, and  3. A red haired, blue-eyed, large limbed,
 wild countenanced, heavy moving one26.  All three of these
 complexions (with some modification due to climate and
 intermarriages) are to be found in Scotland.  Classical German
 sources linked the Agathyrsi with the Guths (Goths) and with early
 Germanic Tribes28.  The Khazars were also linked with the Goths.
 The Caledonians of Scotland confederated with the Picts and they
 too were regarded as a North European group.  The Caledonians were
 related to the Galadon of Northern Wales (Votadini) who had come
 from Scotland.  Both groups descend from Gilead son of Machir of
 Menasseh.  The Picts who came from Scythia and were descended from
 the Agathyrsi are often confused (in Encyclopediac articles, etc.)
 with indigenous peoples in Scotland with whom they may have
 amalgamated and to whom the name "Pict" may have been also applied
 at some stage or other.  The Picts are archaeologically
 distinguished by their way of drawing animals and by certain
 symbols they employed:  The Picts artistic style confirms their
 eastern origins and concerning this style it has been remarked that:

"The animals which include fish, birds, bulls, boars, and deer
are executed with vigour and economy in a style common to the
northern barbarians from Scotland to the borders of China"29.

 In other words, the Picts used the Scythian art style.  This style
 continued to be employed by the "Barbarians" (such as Angles,
 Saxons, and Franks) who emerged from Scythia as well as by the
 Picts who had migrated from the same regions.  The fundamental
 elements of this style and its means of execution may be traced
 back to the area of ancient Israel.

 According to D.A. MacKenzie the Picts were never very numerous and
 formed a military elite that ultimately came to dominate all of
 Scotland30.  The name "PICTI" is first found in Eumenius ca.296 c.e.
 but Sidonius Apollinaris assigned them an earlier time around that
 of Julius Caesar31.  The Picts (says Whatmore) included the
 Caledones of northern Scotland and their capital was Camelon*32.
 They also had settlements in northern Hibernia (Ireland).  Some
 early Scottish and Irish accounts say that the Picts came from
 Scythia, went to Ireland, married women of the Milesian Hiberi, and
 from Ireland came to Scotland.  In Ireland, "we find that the term
 Cruithne was also used by the Irish to describe a group of
 aboriginal people found in Ireland prior to the arrival of the Sons
 of Mile.  In other words before the coming of the Gael.  These
 Cruithne 

[CTRL] From Grandfather's Chair, 1840

1999-10-01 Thread Linda Minor

 -Caveat Lector-

By Nathaniel Hawthorne




Part 1
Chapter 9


THE children were now accustomed to assemble round Grandfather's chair at
all their unoccupied moments; und often it was a striking picture to behold
the white-headed old sire, with this flowery wreath of young people around
him. When he talked to them, it was the past speaking to the present, or
rather to the future,--for the children were of a generation which had not
become actual. Their part in life, thus far, was only to be happy and to
draw knowledge from a thousand sources. As yet, it was not their time to do.

Sometimes, as Grandfather gazed at their fair, unworldly countenances, a
mist of tears bedimmed his spectacles. He almost regretted that it was
necessary for them to know anything of the past or to provide aught for the
future. He could have wished that they might be always the happy, youthful
creatures who had hitherto sported around his chair, without inquiring
whether it had a history. It grieved him to think that his little Alice, who
was a flower bud fresh from paradise, must open her leaves to the rough
breezes of the world, or ever open them in any clime. So sweet a child she
was, that it seemed fit her infancy should be immortal.

But such repinings were merely flitting shadows across the old man's heart.
He had faith enough to believe, and wisdom enough to know, that the bloom of
the flower would be even holier and happier than its bud. Even within
himself, though Grandfather was now at that period of life when the veil of
mortality is apt to hang heavily over the soul, still, in his inmost being
he was conscious of something that be would not have exchanged for the best
happiness of childhood. It was a bliss to which every sort of earthly
experience--all that he had enjoyed, or suffered, or seen, or heard, or
acted, with the broodings of his soul upon the whole--had contributed
somewhat. In the same manner must a bliss, of which now they could have no
conception, grow up within these children, and form a part of their
sustenance for immortality.

So Grandfather, with renewed cheerfulness, continued his history of the
chair, trusting that a profounder wisdom than his own would extract, from
these flowers and weeds of Time, a fragrance that might last beyond all
time.

At this period of the story Grandfather threw a glance backward as far as
the year 1660. He spoke of the ill-concealed reluctance with which the
Puritans in America had acknowledged the sway of Charles II. on his
restoration to his father's throne. When death had stricken Oliver Cromwell,
that mighty protector had no sincerer mourners than in New England. The new
king had been more than a year upon the throne before his accession was
proclaimed in Boston, although the neglect to perform the ceremony might
have subjected the rulers to the charge of treason.

During the reign of Charles II., however, the American colonies had but
little reason to complain of harsh or tyrannical treatment. But when Charles
died, in 1685, and was succeeded by his brother James, the patriarchs of New
England began to tremble. King James was a bigoted Roman Catholic, and was
known to be of an arbitrary temper. It was feared by all Protestants, and
chiefly by the Puritans, that he would assume despotic power and attempt to
establish popery throughout his dominions. Our forefathers felt that they
had no security either for their religion or their liberties.

The result proved that they had reason for their apprehensions. King James
caused the charters of all the American colonies to be taken away. The old
charter of Massachusetts, which the people regarded as a holy thing and as
the foundation of all their llberties, was declared void. The colonists were
now no longer freemen; they were entirely dependent on the king's pleasure.
At first, in 1685, King James appointed Joseph Dudley, a native of
Massachusetts, to be president of New England. But soon afterwards Sir
Edmund Andros, an officer of the English army, arrived, with a commission to
be governor-general of New England and New York.

The king had given such powers to Sir Edmund Andros that there was now no
liberty, nor scarcely any law, in the colonies over which he ruled. The
inhabitants were not allowed to choose representatives, and consequently had
no voice whatever in the government, nor control over the measures that were
adopted. The councillors with whom the governor consulted on matters of
state were appointed by himself. This sort of government was no better than
an absolute despotism.

"The people suffered much wrong while Sir Edmund Andros ruled over them,"
continued Grandfather; "and they were apprehensive of much more. He had
brought some soldiers with him from England, who took possession of the old
fortress on Castle Island and of the fortification on Fort Hill. Sometimes
it was rumored that a general massacre of the inhabitants 

[CTRL] From Grandfather's Chair, 1840 (III)

1999-10-01 Thread Linda Minor

 -Caveat Lector-

By Nathaniel Hawthorne

Part 3
Chapter 2


"LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR HUTCHINSON," continued Grandfather, "now began to be
unquiet in our old chair. He had formerly been much respected and beloved by
the people, and had often proved himself a friend to their interests. But
the time was come when he could not be a friend to the people without
ceasing to be a friend to the king. It was pretty generally understood that
Hutchinson would act according to the king's wishes, right or wrong, like
most of the other gentlemen who held offices under the crown. Besides, as he
was brother-in-law of Andrew Oliver, the people now felt a particular
dislike to him."

"I should think," said Laurence, "as Mr. Hutchinson had written the history
of our Puritan forefathers, he would have known what the temper of the
people was, and so have taken care not to wrong them."

"He trusted in the might of the King of England," replied Grandfather, "and
thought himself safe under the shelter of the throne. If no dispute had
arisen between the king and the people, Hutchinson would have had the
character of a wise, good, and patriotic magistrate. But, from the time that
he took part against the rights of his country, the people's love and
respect were turned to scorn and hatred, and he never had another hour of
peace."

In order to show what a fierce and dangerous spirit was now aroused among
the inhabitants, Grandfather related a passage from history which we shall
call



THE HUTCHINSON MOB.


On the evening of the 26th of August, 1765, a bonfire was kindled in King
Street. It flamed high upward, and threw a ruddy light over the front of the
Town House, on which was displayed a carved representation of the royal
arms. The gilded vane of the cupola glittered in the blaze. The kindling of
this bonfire was the well-known signal for the populace of Boston to
assemble in the street.

Before the tar-barrels, of which the bonfire was made, were half burned out,
a great crowd had come together. They were chiefly laborers and seafaring
men, together with many young apprentices, and all those idle people about
town who are ready for any kind of mischief. Doubtless some school-boys were
among them.

While these rough figures stood round the blazing bonfire, you might hear
them speaking bitter words against the high officers of the province.
Governor Bernard, Hutchinson, Oliver, Storey, Hallowell, and other men whom
King George delighted to honor, were reviled as traitors to the country. Now
and then, perhaps, an officer of the crown passed along the street, wearing
the gold-laced hat, white wig, and embroidered waistcoat which were the
fashion of the day. But when the people beheld him they set up a wild and
angry howl; and their faces had an evil aspect, which was made more terrible
by the flickering blaze of the bonfire.

"I should like to throw the traitor right into that blaze!" perhaps one
fierce rioter would say.

"Yes; and all his brethren too!" another might reply; "and the governor and
old Tommy Hutchinson into the hottest of it!

"And the Earl of Bute along with them!" muttered a third; "and burn the
whole pack of them under King George's nose! No matter if it singed him!"

Some such expressions as these, either shouted aloud or muttered under the
breath, were doubtless heard in King Street. The mob, meanwhile, were
growing fiercer and fiercer, and seemed ready even to set the town on fire
for the sake of burning the king's friends out of house and home. And yet,
angry as they were, they sometimes broke into a loud roar of laughter, as if
mischief and destruction were their sport.

But we must now leave the rioters for a time, and take a peep into the
lieutenant-governor's splendid mansion. It was a large brick house,
decorated with Ionic pilasters, and stood in Garden Court Street, near the
North Square.

While the angry mob in King Street were shouting his name,
Lientenant-Governor Hutchinson sat quietly in Grandfather's chair,
unsuspicious of the evil that was about to fall on his head. His beloved
family were in the room with him. He had thrown off his embroidered coat and
powdered wig, and had on a loose-flowing gown and purple-velvet cap. He had
likewise laid aside the cares of state and all the thoughts that had wearied
and perplexed him throughout the day.

Perhaps, in the enjoyment of his home, he had forgotten all ahout the Stamp
Act, and scarcely remembered that there was a king, across the ocean, who
bad resolved to make tributaries of the New-Englanders. Possibly, too, he
had forgotten his own ambition, and would not have exchanged his situation,
at that moment, to be governor, or even a lord.

The wax candles were now lighted, and showed a handsome room, well provided
with rich furniture. On the walls hung the pictures of Hutchinson's
ancestors, who had been eminent men in their day, and were honorably
remembered in the history of the country. Every object served to mark the
residence of a rich, aristocratic 

[CTRL] From Grandfather's Chair, 1840 (IV)

1999-10-01 Thread Linda Minor

 -Caveat Lector-

By Nathaniel Hawthorne

Part 3
Chapter 7


"OUR old chair," resumed Grandfather, "did not now stand in the midst of a
gay circle of British officers. The troops, as I told you, had been removed
to Castle William immediately after the Boston massacre. Still, however,
there were many tories, custom house officers, and Englishmen who used to
assemble in the British Coffee House and talk over the affairs of the
period. Matters grew worse and worse; and in 1773 the people did a deed
which incensed the king and ministry more than any of their former doings."

Grandfather here described the affair, which is known by the name of the
Boston Tea Party. The Americans, for some time past, had left off importing
tea, on account of the oppressive tax. The East India Company, in London,
had a large stock of tea on hand, which they had expected to sell to the
Americans, but could find no market for it. But, after a while, the
government persuaded this company of merchants to send the tea to America.

"How odd it is," observed Clara, "that the liberties of America should have
had anything to do with a cup of tea!"

Grandfather smiled, and proceeded with his narrative. When the people of
Boston heard that several cargoes of tea were coming across the Atlantic,
they held a great many meetings at Faneuil Hall, in the Old South Church,
and under Liberty Tree. In the midst of their debates, three ships arrived
in the harbor with the tea on hoard. The people spent more than a fortnight
in consulting what should be done. At last, on the 16th of December, 1773,
they demanded of Governor Hutchinson that he should immediately send the
ships back to England.

The governor replied that the ships must not leave the harbor until the
custom house duties upon the tea should be paid. Now, the payment of these
duties was the very thing against which the people had set their faces;
because it was a tax unjustly imposed upon America by the English
government. Therefore, in the dusk of the evening, as soon as Governor
Hutchinson's reply was received, an immense crowd hastened to Griffin's
Wharf, where the tea-ships lay. The place is now called Liverpool Wharf.

"When the crowd reached the wharf," said Grandfather, "they saw that a set
of wild-looking figures were already on board of the ships. You would have
imagined that the Indian warriors of old times had come back again; for they
wore the Indian dress, and had their faces covered with red and black paint,
like the Indians when they go to war. These grim figures hoisted the
tea-chests on the decks of the vessels, broke them open, and threw all the
contents into the harbor."

"Grandfather," said little Alice, "I suppose Indians don't love tea; else
they would never waste it so."

"They were not real Indians, my child," answered Grandfather. "They were
white men in disguise; because a heavy punishment would have been inflicted
on them if the king's officers had found who they were. But it was never
known. From that day to this, though the matter has been talked of by all
the world, nobody can tell the names of those Indian figures. Some people
say that there were very famous men among them, who afterwards became
governors and generals. Whether this be true I cannot tell."

When tidings of this bold deed were carried to England, King George was
greatly enraged. Parliament immediately passed an act, by which all vessels
were forbidden to take in or discharge their cargoes at the port of Boston.
In this way they expected to ruin all the merchants, and starve the poor
people, by depriving them of employment. At the same time another act was
passed, taking away many rights and privileges which had been granted in the
charter of Massachusetts.

Governor Hutchinson, soon afterward, was summoned to England, in order that
he might give his advice about the management of American affairs. General
Gage, an officer of the old French War, and since commander-in-chief of the
British forces in America, was appointed governor in his stead. One of his
first acts was to make Salem, instead of Boston, the metropolis of
Massachusetts, by summoning the General Court to meet there.

According to Grandfather's description, this was the most gloomy time that
Massachusetts had ever seen. The people groaned under as heavy a tyranny as
in the days of Sir Edmund Andros. Boston looked as if it were afflicted with
some dreadful pestilence, so sad were the inhabitants, and so desolate the
streets. There was no cheerful hum of business. The merchants shut up their
warehouses, and the laboring men stood idle about the wharves. But all
America felt interested in the good town of Boston; and contributions were
raised, in many places, for the relief of the poor inhabitants.

"Our dear old chair!" exclaimed Clara. "How dismal it must have been now!"

"Oh," replied Grandfather, "a gay throng of officers had now come back to
the British Coffee House; so that the old chair had no lack of mirthful
company. Soon 

Re: [CTRL] Medical Mafia, CIA Drugs

1999-10-01 Thread Sammark4

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 09/30/1999 4:48:58 PM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Murder By Injection: The Medical Conspiracy Against America


  Click here to order
  by Eustace Mullins

  This book is a truly thorough account of the machinations underlying
  America's steadily deteriorating health, and is the result of some forty
  years of investigative research by the author Eustace Mullins.

Eustace Mullins also wrote, "The Curse of Canaan."  He used Biblical text
to show that those of dark skin are inherently evil.  He's an amazing
researcher with admirable internal logic, but he reminded me of Hitler in
that book.   I got a lot out of the book you mentioned above, but people like
Mr. Mullins really scare me, and with good reason.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Barnes called Guard to help Bush get in

1999-10-01 Thread piper

 -Caveat Lector-

 Bush Family - Looking behind the Bushes
http://www.prorev.com/bush.htm

 George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography
http://www.radix.net?~tarpley/bushb.htm
Pied Piper


Linda Minor wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 This story doesn't appear to be dying.  It's made the rounds in Texas
 newspapers, and reporters are still asking about it.

 http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/today/news_4.html

 By Ken Herman
 American-Statesman Capitol Bureau Chief
 Tuesday, September 28, 1999

 Former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes put in a well-placed good word to help
 young George W. Bush get into the Air National Guard when thousands of
 Bush's contemporaries were shipping out to Vietnam, Barnes' lawyer said
 Monday.

 In a statement issued on his behalf, Barnes said he made the phone call to
 the head of the Texas Air National Guard at the request of the late Sidney
 Adger, a Houston oilman and longtime Bush family friend.

 But Barnes said nobody in the Bush family had asked him to intervene. When
 Bush joined the Guard in 1968, his father was a GOP congressman from
 Houston.

 "Neither Congressman Bush nor any other member of the Bush family asked for
 Barnes' help," the lawyer's statement said. "Barnes has no knowledge that
 Governor Bush or President Bush knew of Barnes' recommendation."

 The statement said Barnes "was contacted by Sid Adger and asked to recommend
 George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Air National Guard."

 At a Houston campaign stop on Monday, Bush said he did not know whether
 Barnes had intervened on his behalf in 1968.

 "I never asked for, (and) I don't believe I received, any special
 treatment," said Bush, who served in the Guard, based in Houston, from 1968
 to 1973.

 Bush's military record became part of a federal lawsuit when former Texas
 Lottery Director Lawrence Littwin alleged that Gtech, operator of the state
 lottery, was behind his 1997 firing after five months on the job.

 Littwin's lawsuit claims Gtech held sway over the Texas Lottery Commission
 because Barnes, Gtech's former lobbyist, had knowledge about how Bush got
 into the Guard. But Gtech had severed its ties with Barnes before Littwin
 was hired by the Lottery Commission.

 Gtech and Bush have denied any involvement in Littwin's firing.

 The governor, the front-running Republican presidential candidate, continued
 to defend his service as a fighter pilot in the Air National Guard.

 "I can tell you what happened," he said Monday. "Nothing happened. My Guard
 unit was looking for pilots, and I flew for the Guard."

 "I'm proud of my service," Bush added, "and any allegation that my dad asked
 for special favors is simply not true. . . . I didn't ask anybody to help
 get me to the Guard, either."

 A spokeswoman for the elder Bush has said that Adger was a close family
 friend but that the former president knew nothing about any attempts by
 Adger to get the younger Bush into the Guard.

 The statement issued on Barnes' behalf said he called Brig. Gen. James Rose,
 then the head of the Texas Air National Guard, and recommended Bush for a
 pilot slot, which was available at the time. Rose is now deceased.

 Last September, Barnes met with Midland oilman Don Evans, chairman of Bush's
 re-election campaign and now finance chairman for Bush's presidential bid,
 and told him about the efforts to get Bush into the Guard. The statement
 issued Monday on Barnes' behalf said Bush sent Barnes "a note thanking him
 for his candor in acknowledging that Barnes received no call from any member
 of the Bush family."

 Barnes' statement was issued Monday after a deposition that lasted more than
 five hours. Attorney Charles Burton, representing Barnes, declined to say
 whether the Guard question came up during the session at Barnes' downtown
 Austin office. But Littwin's lawyers, in court filings, have said it was
 among the main lines of questioning they wanted to pursue with Barnes.

 In motions earlier this month, Barnes claimed "executive privilege"
 protection against answering questions about whether he helped Bush get into
 the Guard. Burton said no objections were raised to questions asked Monday
 by Littwin's lawyers.

 Burton said the deposition is covered by a judge's confidentiality order and
 eventually could become public. "However, that order does not prevent
 (Barnes) from setting the media record straight on events occurring more
 than 30 years ago," the statement said.

 You may contact Ken Herman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 445-1718.

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Re: [CTRL] [InTheShadows] Skeptic News - Thursday #2

1999-10-01 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

 -Caveat Lector-

Geez people.  Kids like gross and disgusting things (especially little
boys).  It's a toy/candy to them - nothing more.  The account of this woman
fainting over a candy stick is hilarious and definitely (IMHO) a major
over-reaction.

Hilary

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 Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 11:31 AM

 ...hi,
 a. i personally thought it looks like a tongue- i saw it in the store
 weeks ago...but,personally even thats gross. but what is worse
 is what i read in the article:

 {One mother brought the toy home for her 3 year old son. She had no idea
 what it was, because the demon's mouth was closed when she purchased it.
She
 turned her head for an instant and when she looked back and saw her boy
 sucking on the sex tongue, she fainted dead on the spot. It took a team
of
 four paramedics to bring her round. The boy was punished, and the candy
 destroyed. }

 mom gives him the candy- but, the kid is punished. whats with that?
 instead of worrieing about what kids might learn from some stupid candy
 maybe they aught to worry about what their learning from bad parenting;
 like punishing your kid because he did exactly what he was supposed to
do.
 ..ob
 ...a logician of the logos of
love

  # GET YOUR JAR JAR BINKS SEX CANDY TODAY! The Baptists say that the
ten-inch tongue is really a male sex organ. I'll take their word
for that. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0899/toy.html
 
  : How long is your tongue? Do male/female humans/aliens/animals/robots
 have
  longer tongues? Do you prize long tongues? Do Baptists have short
tongues?
  If I said you had a nice tongue, would you hold it against me? Where???

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[CTRL] Fwd: Focus on the Corporation follow-up: Anti-Scofflaw Alert

1999-10-01 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

I was too involved at the time to work this, and when I tried today, the
address would not come up at all.  So I decided to send it along.  If you've
already seen this, please forgive.  Prudy


In a message dated 09/27/1999 6:41:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Subj: Focus on the Corporation follow-up: Anti-Scofflaw Alert
 Date:  09/27/1999 6:41:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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 A few weeks ago, the Focus on the Corporation column was titled "A Law and
 Order Regulation for Corporations." The subject was a proposal to prevent
 the U.S. government from entering into contracts with companies that are
 chronic or serious violators of labor, environmental, tax, antitrust or
 employment laws. This note is a follow up to that column.

 For more details, see the Essential Action web page,
 http://www.essentialaction.org/anti-scofflaw.

 The federal government is now accepting comments on the proposed
 regulation. Business groups are weighing in heavily against it; and so if
 the proposal is to be enacted, it is vital that citizens and public
 interest groups submit comments in support of the regulation.

 It is easy to submit comments -- even a comment that says nothing more
 than, "I support the principle that the federal government should not
 contract with companies that seriously transgress the law" is valuable,
 and comments can be submitted by e-mail (as well as regular mail).

 For background on the proposed regulation, and tips on what to say in
 comments, see the Essential Action web page,
 http://www.essentialaction.org/anti-scofflaw. You can e-mail comments
 directly to the agency from this page.

 If you are so eager to send comments that you don't even want to check the
 page, you can send them by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by regular
 mail to:

General Services Administration
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A few weeks ago, the Focus on the Corporation column was titled "A Law and
Order Regulation for Corporations." The subject was a proposal to prevent
the U.S. government from entering into contracts with companies that are
chronic or serious violators of labor, environmental, tax, antitrust or
employment laws. This note is a follow up to that column.

For more details, see the Essential Action web page,
http://www.essentialaction.org/anti-scofflaw.

The federal government is now accepting comments on the proposed
regulation. Business groups are weighing in heavily against it; and so if
the proposal is to be enacted, it is vital that citizens and public
interest groups submit comments in support of the regulation.

It is easy to submit comments -- even a comment that says nothing more
than, "I support the principle that the federal government should not
contract with companies that seriously transgress the law" is valuable,
and comments can be submitted by e-mail (as well as regular mail).

For background on the proposed regulation, and tips on what to say in
comments, see the Essential Action web page,
http://www.essentialaction.org/anti-scofflaw. You can e-mail comments
directly to the agency from this page.

If you are so eager to send comments that you don't even want to check the
page, you can send them by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by regular
mail to:

   General Services Administration
   FAR Secretariat (MVR)
   1800 F Street, NW, Room 4035 ATTN: Laurie Duarte
   Washington, D.C. 20045

Be 

Re: [CTRL] Promis, William Hamilton, Michael Riconosciuto, Wackenhut, ...

1999-10-01 Thread Sammark4

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 10/01/1999 2:16:00 AM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 After the jury hears tapes of Hayes discussing a $5,000 payoff
  for a prospective hit on his estranged son, the defendant responds that
he'd
  known all along he was talking to an FBI undercover, but had been stringing
  the Bureau along so he could develop evidence against them. When the CIA
  introduces affidavits disavowing any relationship with Hayes, he takes the
  stand to provide his cover name, "Charles Lawson," and an ID number.
  Following three hours of deliberation, the jury finds Hayes guilty, to the
  astonishment of nearly 100 supporters present. He says from his jail cell
  afterwards, while his attorney moves for a new trial, that he anticipates
  "assistance" from higher powers.

I'm reminded of a Vonnegut line:  "Be careful what you pretend to be, for
you ARE what you pretend to be."   If you're not part of a government
sanctioned sting operation, you can't go around stringing people along.  Of
course, the government is so corrupt that even if it's a "sanctioned op",
it's still probably illegal and unethical.  I wish somebody knew how we're
ever supposed to get out of this mess.  I think I had better just take up
knitting or something

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - HIATUS

1999-10-01 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

 -Caveat Lector-

 From: "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 SkeptiNews 991001a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To
Question
 Publication of SkeptiNews will suspended until further notice - probably
 resuming in 1.5 weeks, say on or after 11 October 1999, but don't try to
 hold me to that.  Your hard-working editor/reporter/commentator will head
 up to the Arctic Circle to observe alien mating rituals, monitor Aurora
 Borealis displays, try some Tcl/Tk programming, and mind-meld with brown
 bears.  Pity da bears.  Remember, only YOU can prevent forests.  Cya
--Ric


Whaaa  No beer and tin foil hat?

Have fun.  I look forward to seeing your alien photos upon your return.

Yes, I do pity the bears.  Play nice.

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] Columbine Crapola.

1999-10-01 Thread Gavin Phillips

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Here, here. I cannot watch any supposed ""news"" program these days without
laughing out loud and delivering a sarcastic running commentary. The pat
smiles, the slick reading of the TelePrompTer, the inane, pretend to be
ad-libbing (the anchors do not possess the comedic skill or confidence to try
real improv) booorrring bullshit, saw it coming before it left your lips,
shit "jokes".  But come on, they do have a really "important" investigative
report every night about librarians caught smoking on public property, no
less. City cops caught playing golf, whilst working. You could have knocked
me down with a feather I was so shocked at this vitally important
information. Phew!

Besides, television has virtually completely run out of any entertainment
value whatsoever. It used to be good for a decent movie now and again, or
repeat of a classic. That is if you can stand the fucking commercials rammed
down your throat
for 40% of the programs time slot. Just video it and fast forward. Gavin.



In a message dated 9/30/99 5:08:53 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 According to the Salon article, Harris and Klebold "were never part of the
 Trench Coat Mafia," the affinity group identified by the media that was
 allegedly known throughout Columbine for unorthodox behavior and
 appearance.  Indeed, after the shooting a number of schools across the
 country banned the long coats and instituted dress and appearance codes
 against dyed hair or unusual behavior.  "They didn't target jocks,
 minorities or Christians," adds the Salon story.  "As investigators get
 closer to producing an official report about the Columbine High School
 massacres, it is clear that much of what was reported last spring about
 the motives and methods of killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold was
 untrue..."

 The good news, I suppose, is that the interval between LIES told us by the
 state-owned media and the TRUTH finally uncovered by the American public is
 getting shorter. Six months for Columbine, as versus 6 years for Waco, 60 (?)
 for the JFK assassination.

 It's still too long, however.  Six months is more than enough time for the
 State to stir up mass-hysteria and then, while Billy Joe and Bobby June
 Sixpack are still in a paranoid haze, move in quickly seizing this "window of
 opportunity" to justify extreme ("overkill") repressive measures that a
 sober, rational, un-mindfucked citizenry would never tolerate -- in this
 case, "gun control" (while the State is arming itself to the teeth against
 US!).

 But can we hope for any better?  It's been claimed that Twenty-nothings (the
 TRUE "television generation," raised with little awareness of life outside
 "virtual reality") have an attention- and interest-span of five minutes or
 less and their judgment is a product of short-term memory.  IMHO, the
 attention- and interest-span of most Baby Boomers, the
 "I-Want-It-ALL-and-I-Want-It-NOW--Or-ELSE" Generation, is only a matter of
 weeks or  months at best, characterized by a longer-term judgment, yet none
 the less deficient.
 (Their basic unit of measurement for time is the weekend, four weekends in a
 month.)

 Cynic that I am, I won't expect any PROGRESS until we can read the papers or
 watch the evening news with "subtitles" in our minds (sorta "closed
 captioning for the stupid") SIMULTANEOUSLY spelling out a "Cui bono?"
 warning: "Everything you're being told is a self-serving LIE."  By THEN,
 those of us who don't "kill our televisions" will watch it only to keep
 abreast of how the Powers That Be are trying to manipulate our beliefs THIS
 TIME, on the principle that "forewarned is forearmed."  Turn off the SOUND
 ...
  

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Re: [CTRL] Columbine Crapola.

1999-10-01 Thread Gavin Phillips

 -Caveat Lector-

Hey gaz. Here' something from my mailing list form one of the intellectuals
on it. A right on the money commentary on the absurd "news" shit we get in
this country. His reply is under the first paragraph. Gavin.

  -Caveat Lector-

 According to the Salon article, Harris and Klebold "were never part of the
 Trench Coat Mafia," the affinity group identified by the media that was
 allegedly known throughout Columbine for unorthodox behavior and
 appearance.  Indeed, after the shooting a number of schools across the
 country banned the long coats and instituted dress and appearance codes
 against dyed hair or unusual behavior.  "They didn't target jocks,
 minorities or Christians," adds the Salon story.  "As investigators get
 closer to producing an official report about the Columbine High School
 massacres, it is clear that much of what was reported last spring about
 the motives and methods of killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold was
 untrue..."

 The good news, I suppose, is that the interval between LIES told us by the
 state-owned media and the TRUTH finally uncovered by the American public is
 getting shorter. Six months for Columbine, as versus 6 years for Waco, 60 (?)
 for the JFK assassination.

 It's still too long, however.  Six months is more than enough time for the
 State to stir up mass-hysteria and then, while Billy Joe and Bobby June
 Sixpack are still in a paranoid haze, move in quickly seizing this "window of
 opportunity" to justify extreme ("overkill") repressive measures that a
 sober, rational, un-mindfucked citizenry would never tolerate -- in this
 case, "gun control" (while the State is arming itself to the teeth against
 US!).

 But can we hope for any better?  It's been claimed that Twenty-nothings (the
 TRUE "television generation," raised with little awareness of life outside
 "virtual reality") have an attention- and interest-span of five minutes or
 less and their judgment is a product of short-term memory.  IMHO, the
 attention- and interest-span of most Baby Boomers, the
 "I-Want-It-ALL-and-I-Want-It-NOW--Or-ELSE" Generation, is only a matter of
 weeks or  months at best, characterized by a longer-term judgment, yet none
 the less deficient.
 (Their basic unit of measurement for time is the weekend, four weekends in a
 month.)

 Cynic that I am, I won't expect any PROGRESS until we can read the papers or
 watch the evening news with "subtitles" in our minds (sorta "closed
 captioning for the stupid") SIMULTANEOUSLY spelling out a "Cui bono?"
 warning: "Everything you're being told is a self-serving LIE."  By THEN,
 those of us who don't "kill our televisions" will watch it only to keep
 abreast of how the Powers That Be are trying to manipulate our beliefs THIS
 TIME, on the principle that "forewarned is forearmed."  Turn off the SOUND
 ...
  

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[CTRL] FW: RE: FYI - PLEASE READ 9-30-99

1999-10-01 Thread Fransy

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FYI-Not to scare!
-
Forwarded Message:
Subj:FYI
Date:   09/29/1999 10:59:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kathleen Barton)
Reply-to:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Liz Westergreen)

Subject: Unconfirmed InfoFYI


  From: "David L. Miner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I met a man last night that used to go to my church.  Brandon moved
last
  year before I started attending.  But several people, including the
  pastor, say that Brandon is totally honest and does not "go off half

  cocked."
 
  Brandon told me that his wife received a call from her cousin last
week.
  The cousin lives in Ohio and her husband is a truck driver for
Wal-Mart.
  It seems he was driving a load early last week and stopped at a
border
  weigh station.  The inspector wanted to know what was in the load,
and
  the driver indicated he did not know. He merely picked up the
trailer
  and was transporting it to another state.
 
  The inspector opened the trailer and saw hundreds of uniform boxes.
He
  asked what was in the boxes and the driver again stated that he
didn't
  know.  So the inspector opened a box.
 
  In the box were about a hundred large (about 2'x3') plastic signs
that
  stated: "This City Under Martial Law" in bright colors.  It said
  something about the fed govt and had what looked like a legal
reference
  (the driver claims to know nothing about legal issues, but he
thought it
  was a reference to a law or an Executive Order or something).
 
  There were several hundred boxes of these signs.  The driver doesn't

  know what Wal-Mart has to do with the signs.  But he did state that
  Wal-Mart sometimes hires out space on their trucks if space is
  available.  I might suggest that maybe the govt was using Wal-Mart
  trucks to keep a low profile.
 
  Anyway, the info came to me by way of a long route. But the sources
are
  "innocent bystanders" with no history of right-wing reactionary
  politics.  The driver was married to a woman who was related to
  Brandon's wife.  He swears the info is accurate and that he spoke
with
  the driver himself to confirm what was passed between the respective

  wives.  The driver claims there were hundreds of boxes, each one
with at
  least a hundred large signs declaring martial law.
 
  I thought this was worth passing along.  Especially since the fed
govt
  is telling us (Wednesday issue of USA Today and today's press
releases)
  that we have nothing to fear.
 
  Yours in freedom, at least a little while longer,
  Dave Miner

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Re: [CTRL] The Obstruction Of Justice Department?--Wall Street Jo...

1999-10-01 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 09/30/1999 4:53:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Congressional veterans couldn't recall ever seeing
   anything like it. Last Wednesday, four current or retired
   FBI agents appeared before a Senate oversight
   committee to testify in detail how Justice Department
   officials had blocked and subverted their efforts to
   investigate the campaign finance scandals of the 1996
   Clinton-Gore ticket. 

Wow, FIB Agents testilying as usual?  What a break to have these guys ready
to tell it like it might have been.  You can trust your FBI--of course you
can.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] The Obstruction Of Justice Department?--..

1999-10-01 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 09/30/1999 6:46:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 My conclusion was that a group of old time DOJ bureaucrats are mainly
 responsible.  If they havea weak or corrupt A/G like Meese or Reno there is
 no justice. 

You're right, and even a strong and corrupt leader like Hoover comes out the
same way.  If we're really lucky, there is occasionally someone around who
can subvert the evil intent.  Prudy

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[CTRL] (Fwd) Art Dealer Is Arrested for Exhibition of Live Ammunition

1999-10-01 Thread K

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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---


Subject:Art Dealer Is Arrested for Exhibition of Live Ammunition

Please remember, friends, that this is in the same city where a
dung-
adorned Virgin Mary is defended as "freedom of expression," and
the Mayor
(whom I generally do not admire) is under attack for withholding tax
dollars from the exhibiting museum.

Regards,
Olga

http://www.nytimes.com/library/arts/093099boone-gallery.html

September 30, 1999

Art Dealer Is Arrested for Exhibition of Live Ammunition

By ANDY NEWMAN

A prominent Manhattan art dealer was arrested on Wednesday
night at her
Fifth Avenue gallery, where an exhibition included a vase full of live
9-millimeter cartridges for visitors to take home as souvenirs, the
police
said.

 The dealer, Mary Boone, was charged with unlawful distribution of
ammunition and with resisting arrest, said Detective Joseph
Pentangelo, a
police spokesman.

 She was also charged with possession of unlawful weapons and
possession
of stolen property for another piece in the one-man show by the
sculptor
Tom Sachs, which featured homemade guns, Detective Pentangelo
said. Ms.
Boone was being held at the Midtown North precinct house early
this
morning and was expected to be taken to Manhattan Central
Booking to spend
the night in jail, the detective said. All of the charges are
misdemeanors.

 The arrest of Ms. Boone, 48, a flamboyant, sharply dressed art-
world
celebrity who came to prominence in the 1980's, comes in the
midst of
Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's battle with the Brooklyn Museum of
Art over a
painting of the Virgin Mary partly obscured by pieces of elephant
dung.

 The Police Department's chief spokeswoman, Marilyn Mode, said
that the
two events were unrelated.

 "It is irresponsible, at the very least, to be distributing live
ammunition to the public," Ms. Mode said. "This has nothing to do
with the
Brooklyn Museum." Joseph J. Lhota, a deputy mayor, declined to
comment on
Ms. Boone's arrest, saying he did not know enough about the case.

 Sachs, whose work deals with consumer culture, packaging and
violence,
placed the cartridges in an Alvar Aalto glass vase on the reception
desk
of the gallery at 745 Fifth Avenue, just north of 58th Street. Visitors
were invited to take the cartridges home in orange air-sickness
bags that
were decorated to look like bags from Hermès.

 Ms. Mode said the police had received a complaint about the
show, which

opened on Sept. 10, on Wednesday and had gone to the fourth-floor
gallery
around 5 P.M.

 "We were told that this ammunition was available for anyone to
pick up at
this art gallery and we just looked into it," she said. "We wanted to
see
if it was bullets or foil-wrapped chocolates, and they're definitely not

chocolate bullets."

 While detectives were waiting to speak to Ms. Boone, they
wandered into

the main part of the gallery and noticed a cabinet on the wall
holding
homemade guns -- Sachs's signature object -- and what appeared
to be more
live cartridges, Ms. Mode said.

 They decided to take all the suspect objects, as well as an
unwilling Ms.
Boone, into custody until they could determine which things were
potentially explosive and which were works of art, Ms. Mode said.

 After technicians from the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms
determined that the bullets were live, Ms. Boone was charged with
unlawful
possession and disposal of ammunition.

 Later in the evening, when Sachs's homemade guns were deemed
functional,
the police added charges of criminal possession of a weapon and
criminal

possession of a shotgun, Detective Pentangelo said. The stolen-
property
charge was added because the container that the guns were in
was made of

stolen materials, the detective said, but would not give details.

 Ms. Boone's lawyer, Ted Poretz, who was at the station house
with her,
declined to comment for the record.

 Norman Siegel, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties
Union,
said that Ms. Boone had a potential claim under the free-speech
clause of
the First Amendment if the exhibit was reasonably understood as
artistic

expression. Unlike a bank robbery, which the bank robber cannot
retroactively define as performance art, the exhibit in Ms. Boone's
gallery
would probably meet this standard, he said.

 But, Siegel added: "There is a second legal standard, known as a
countervailing interest, that would appear to be a problem. The
argument

would be that people shouldn't be handing out live bullets."

 Ms. Mode said that claims to artistic expression were
meaningless in the
face of actions that posed a threat to public safety.

 "If this were simply someone handing bullets out on the street, you
would
criticize us greatly for not doing something about it," she said.
"This is
an unsupervised exhibit with a glass vase filled with bullets, live
ammunition."

 Ms. Boone, who was called the "Queen of the Art World" on the
cover of
New York magazine in the 

Re: [CTRL] The Obstruction Of Justice Department?--..

1999-10-01 Thread ASu2431426

 -Caveat Lector-

Prudy

You are  right, every so often, once in a while, someone honorable comes along

But fewer and fewer over the last decade.

As a generality D.C. TODAY is a corrupt mess.

And people like Laura Ingersoll  dont even know what the "right" thing is
anyway.


ASU

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Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco

1999-10-01 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Oh, poor Timothy wanted a better way for the WACO situation and when that
didn't happened he blew up a building.  Yeah, that's a better way

Hilary

--
 From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [CTRL] McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco
 Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 7:48 AM

  -Caveat Lector-

 From The Oklahoman,
http://www.oklahoman.com/cgi-bin/getarticle?ID=372785
 -
 McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco
 09/09/1999
 The Associated Press

 The attorney who defended Timothy McVeigh says he does not believe the
 Oklahoma City federal building would have been bombed had the entire
truth
 about the Branch Davidian standoff near Waco, Texas, been told
immediately.
 Attorney Stephen Jones said he agrees with federal prosecutors that the
 fiery end to the Waco standoff prompted the bombing.

 "Had the wheels of justice worked and there been an independent
 investigation and the responsibility assessed, there would have been no
 reason for an attack on the federal government in Oklahoma City," Jones
told
 the Tulsa World for Thursday's editions.

 Prosecutors alleged that McVeigh was angry about how the government
handled
 its attempt to arrest David Koresh at the Branch Davidian compound in
1993.

 --
 Dan S

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[CTRL] ******Re:[CTRL] Bahamas******

1999-10-01 Thread Para

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Linda,
The Turks  Caicos Islands have a pretty interesting history, I've heard.

Just talk in the [at that time - the only] hotel on Grand Turk
about 10/12 years ago about some Freemasons who came over from Miami
and/or other places in Florida to build something or other.

All the folk there are related somehow to the main players.
Although, not perhaps 'blood' relations.
But it was a long time back,
the Margarita's had taken their toll
and I didn't have the interest then, that I have now

I wouldn't know where to start looking for a background to it.

But... there was an interesting story  somewhere :)

At 21:11 30/09/99 -0500, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

The Bahama Islands are located east of Jupiter Island.


http://bahamasnet.com/GrandBahamaIsland.html

Grand Bahama is the third-largest Bahama island, about 65 miles east of Palm
Beach. If you are American and a touch homesick, go to a hill in West End.



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[CTRL] October 1 Update - New Soft Money

1999-10-01 Thread Alamaine

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***
FECInfo - Public Disclosure, Inc
www.tray.com
***

The 1999 October 1st download from the FEC is on-line at www.tray.com.
Included are the PAC money leaders so far in 1999
(www.tray.com/fecinfo/_ps.htm).  The latest OFFICIAL detailed contribution and summary 
information is on
the site!



Latest soft money:

Those national party committees that file monthly have just reported their
soft money receipts for the month of August 1999. This includes disclosures
from the RNC, NRSC and the DSCC. The amount of public disclosure has
recently been reduced because the DCCC has switched from their previous monthly
filing to only six-month filing. Their next filing will be due on January 31,
2000. The DCCC joins the DNC and NRCC who had already chosen to make only
minimal disclosures.

Highlights:
-Ohio again brings in a bundle to the RNC - this time totaling $230,000 on
8/19.
-Microsoft Works at contributing by giving $25,000 8/17 to NRSC.
-Thomas McInerney, (Welsh Carson Anderson  Stowe) New York, NY gives
$250,000 to the RNC. His total for 1999 is now $350,000 placing him #2 on the
99-00 Major Soft Donor List behind #1 Carl H. Lindner who is at $625,000.
-Lodwrick Cook, (Chairman Emeritus of ARCO) pumps $100,000 into RNC.
-Both national parties are moving big money in Virginia to win the control
of the state legislature that will handle the next redistricting. DSCC gives
$100,000  8/12 to Old Dominion Grass Roots Fund, Richmond, VA. They also
gave $15,000 more to state level candidates. RNC gives $150,000 8/27 to New
Majority Project, Richmond, VA.

Details:

Ohio Bundle:
Boich Group, Columbus, OH, $25,000 8/19 to RNC
Crown Equipment Corp, New Breman, OH, $25,000 8/18 to RNC
The Limited Service Corp, Columbus, OH, $30,000 8/19 to RNC
Carl H. Lindner (American Financial) Cincinnati, OH; $25,000 8/19 to RNC
Columbus Gas of Ohio, Columbus, OH, $!5,000 8/19 to RNC
B.F. Goodrich Co, Richfield, OH, $5,000 8/19 to RNC
Burgess  Niple, Columbus, OH, $5,000 8/19 to RNC
Richard T. Farmer, (Cintas Corp), $15,000 8/19 to RNC
First Energy, Akron, OH, $15,000 8/19 to RNC
Firstar, Cincinnati, OH, $5,000 8/19 to RNC
Forest City Enterprises, Cleveland, OH, $5,000 8/19 to RNC
The Longaburger Basket Co, Newark, OH, $15,000 8/19 to RNC
Ohio Valley Coal Co, Columbus, OH, $15,000 8/19 to RNC
Proctor  Gamble Co, Cincinnati, OH, $5,000 8/19 to RNC
Timken Co, Canton, OH, $15,000 8/19 to RNC
Wallac Inc/Isolab, Akron, OH, $5,000 8/19 to RNC
Wholesale Beer  Wine, Columbus, OH, $5,000 8/19 to RNC

More Details
Brooke Group, LTD, Miami, FL, $25,000 8/4 to DSCC
Pfizer Inc, New York, NY, $25,000 8/16 to NRSC
American Home Products, Washington, DC and Madison, NJ, $25,000 8/11 to
NRSC; $40,000 to RNC
Pittston Co, Glen Allen, VA; $25,000 8/17 to RNC
Fannie Mae, Washington, DC, $50,000 8/31 to NRSC
Walt Disney CO, Washington, DC, $50,000 8/10 to DSCC
Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA $25,000 8/17 to NRSC; $250 8/24 to DSCC
Michael Egan, 1 Microsoft Way, Redmond, WA, $-250 refund 8/10
Ernst  Young LLP, Lyndhurst, NJ $50,000 8/5 to RNC
Greenburg, Traurig, Hoffman, Miami, FL, $20,000 8/10 to RNC; $5,000 8/17 to
NRSC
FHC Health Systems Inc, Norfolk, VA, $25,000 8/19 to RNC
Mass Mutual Life Insurance Co, Springfield, MA, $25,000 8/5 to RNC
Reliance Group Holdings, New York, NY, $25,000 8/19 to RNC
United Airlines, Washington, DC, $40,000 in kind, 8/26 to NRSC; $10,000
8/27 to NRSC
Continental Airlines, Washington, DC, $87,200 to NRSC
United Brotherhood of Carpenters  Joiners, Washington, DC, $25,000 8/20 to
DSCC
Central Indiana Carpenter's COPE, Indianapolis, IN, $20,000 8/2 to DSCC
Steve Rattner, (Lazard Freres), New York, NY, $23,958 in kind 8/26 to DSCC;
$15,573 8/26 to DSCC
Peter Buttenwieser, (philanthropist) Philadelphia, PA, $50,000 8/2 to DSCC
John W. Childs, (Pres JW Childs Assoc) Boston, MA, $50,000 8/31 to NRSC
John A. Kaneb, (CEO, Gulf Oil) Boston, MA, $50,000 8/9 to NRSC
Paul Singer, (Braxton Assoc) New York, NY, $80,000 8/27 to NRSC
Mr. and Mrs. Richard V. Carolan, (retired, Matindale Hubbell) Menham, NJ,
$75,000 to RNC
Mr. Lodwrick M. Cook, (ARCO, Chairman Emeritus) Sherman Oaks, CA, $100,000
8/12 to RNC
Edward M. Easton, (partner, Easton, Babcock  Assoc) Coral Gables, FL,
$80,000 8/18 to RNC
Robert J. Hiler, (retired, Accurate Casting Inc) LA Porte, IN, $50,000 8/10
to RNC
Charles B. Johnson, (President  CEO, Franklin Resources Inc) Hillsborough,
CA; $25,000 8/4 to RNC
Thomas E. McInerney, (Welsh Carson Anderson  Stowe) New York, NY, $250,000
8/30 to RNC

Interesting Expenditures:
RNC paid $10,000 8/12 to Swain Africa Tours, Ardmore, PA for "Travel
arrangements"

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[CTRL] sleep

1999-10-01 Thread Ric Carter

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http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/9_25_99/bob2.htm

The Weekly Newsmagazine of Science September 25, 1999 Vol. 156, No. 13


Slumber's Unexplored Landscape
People in traditional societies sleep in eye-opening ways
By Bruce Bower


A Gebusi woman in New Guinea, decked out in her dance costume, catches a few
winks on a woodpile during a male initiation ceremony. (Eileen Knauft)
Ah, the sweet simplicity of sleep. You tramp into your bedroom with sagging
eyelids and stifle a yawn. After disrobing, you douse the lights and climb
into bed. Maybe a little reading or television massages the nerves,
loosening them up for slumber's velvet fingers. In a while, you nod off.
Suddenly, an alarm clock's shrill blast breaks up the dozefest as the sun
pokes over the horizon. You feel a bit drowsy but shake it off and face the
new day. Images of a dream dissolve like sugar in the morning's first cup of
coffee.

There's a surprising twist, however, at the heart of this familiar ritual.
It simply doesn't apply to people currently living outside of the modern
Western world—or even to inhabitants of Western Europe as recently as 200
years ago.

In such contexts, and probably throughout human evolution, solitary shut-eye
organized around a regular bedtime and a single bout of sleep proves about
as common as stock car racing or teleconferencing. Surprisingly,
anthropologists have rarely scrutinized the sleep patterns and practices of
different cultures, much less those of different classes and ethnic groups
in the United States.

An initial attempt to draw back the veils of sleep in hunter-gatherer groups
and other traditional societies has uncovered a wide variety of sleep
customs, reports anthropologist Carol M. Worthman of Emory University in
Atlanta. None of these snooze styles, however, looks anything like what
modern Western folk take for granted.

This finding raises profound questions for the burgeoning discipline of
sleep research, Worthman says. Over the past 50 years, scientists have
avidly delved into slumber's biology. Early research identified periods of
rapid-eye-movement (REM) sleep, during which intense dreams often occur.
Current efforts pursue genes involved in wakefulness and sleeping (SN:
8/14/99, p. 100). Researchers have also taken strides toward treating
insomnia and other sleep disturbances.

While investigators readily concede that they don't yet know why people
sleep and dream, they assume that they at least know how people should
sleep: alone or with a partner for a solid chunk of the night. Sleep studies
therefore take place in laboratories where individuals catch winks while
hooked up to a bevy of brain and body monitors.

However, the distinctive sleep styles of non-Western groups may mold sleep's
biology in ways undreamed of in sleep labs, Worthman suggests. They may
influence factors ranging from sleep-related genes to the brain's electrical
output during various sleep phases.

"It's time for scientists to get out into natural sleep environments,"
Worthman remarks. "It's embarrassing that anthropologists haven't done this,
and the lack of such work is impeding sleep research."



A seemingly innocent question awakened Worthman to her discipline's
ignorance of how people sleep. In 1994, she had a conversation with
pediatrician Ronald E. Dahl of the University of Pittsburgh School of
Medicine, who studies the effects of mood disorders on sleep. He asked the
Emory scientist to tell him what anthropologists know about the history and
prehistory of sleep. "[My] bald, if somewhat overstated, answer was 'zero,'"
she says.

Sleep scarcely figures in the literature on either cross-cultural
differences or human evolution, Worthman realized. Investigators generally
relegate slumber to the sidelines, treating it as a biological given with
little potential for variation from one place to another, she holds.

A few researchers have bucked this trend. For instance, anthropologist James
J. McKenna of the University of Notre Dame in Indiana has reported that
babies in many countries outside the United States sleep next to or in the
same room as their parents. Contact with a parent's body helps regulate an
infant's breathing and other physiological functions, he asserts, perhaps
lowering the risk for sudden infant death syndrome (SN: 12/4/93, p. 380).

McKenna's work should have roused investigators of traditional societies out
of their sleep-related torpor, Worthman says. Yet, even seasoned
field-workers have tended to ignore sleep—at least in their published
works—while describing food production, sexual practices, and other facets
of daily life.

So, Worthman contacted seven researchers who she knew had intimate knowledge
of one or more traditional societies, including nomadic foragers, herders,
and village-based farmers. Among these far-flung populations, none of the
investigators, by their own admission, had systematically studied how people
sleep. After plumbing what the researchers had 

[CTRL] Fw: SciCentral News Alert for Friday, 01-Oct-1999 11:37:01 AM EDT

1999-10-01 Thread Ric Carter

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   SCICENTRAL NEWS ALERT

  [1]SciCentral: http://www.scicentral.com
 _

  Friday, October 1, 1999 Edition
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References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/

   BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Mice Lacking a Gene that Controls Production of One Protein
Gain Less Weight, Prefer Safe Places
  + People in Traditional Societies Sleep in Eye-Opening Ways
  + Frogs Kiss and Tell
  + Work Probes Why Habits Are Hard to Make, Break

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-behavs.html#articles


   BIOCHEMISTRY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Protein Tagging en Masse

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-bioch.html#articles


   BIOTECHNOLOGY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Protein Tagging en Masse
  + Plastic Plants (GM plant makes the organic polymer PHBV in
its seeds)
  + Advance May Put Gene Chip Technology on Scientists' Desktops
  + Cinderella's Shoe Holds 500 Sequencing Machines
  + Oceans: Medicine Chests of the Future?

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-biotec.html#articles


   ENVIRONMENT  ECOLOGY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + USGS Finds Elevated Levels of Organochlorine Pesticides in
Aleutian Bald Eagles
  + Counting Down (gloom about a population explosion is probably
misplaced)
  + NASA Reveals a Very Bad Year for the Ozone Layer
  + Forget Rainforests (planting forests in dry areas to combat
the effects of global warming)
  + Ecologists Look to Purge Deadly Exotic Species

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-enviro.html#articles


   EVOLUTION  PALEONTOLOGY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Some Neanderthals Practiced Cannibalism Shows Find from
French Cave
  + Mysterious Stone Circle Was a Busy Trading Post
  + Dino Deaths Revisited: Meteor May Not Have Destroyed Them,
After All
  + Unscrambling Dinosaur Eggs: Fossils Offer Clues About
Behavior
  + Religious Text Could Be "Lost Scroll"
  + Cannibalism in Oceania
  + Studies Show Neanderthals Were Healthy

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-evolut.html#articles


   FOOD SCIENCE  TECHNOLOGY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Natural Pesticides Could Keep Fruit Fresh Longer
  + Biosensor that Detects Pathogens in Poultry and Other Foods
to Be Tested in Metro Atlanta Processing Plant

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-foodsc.html#articles


   IMMUNOLOGY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + UCSD Researchers Pinpoint the Genetic Mechanisms Associated
with Leukemia in Children
  + Sniff This (bacterial DNA could prevent asthma attacks)
  + Reports from Special Environmental Health Issue Explore Links
to Autoimmune Diseases Diabetes, Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis,
and Arthritis
  + Gamma/Delta T Cells Essential to Regulating Airway
Hyper-Responsiveness in Asthma, Other Lung Diseases

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-immuno.html#articles


   MICROBIOLOGY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Blood Product Contaminated with Unusual Bacteria
  + Researchers Identify Enzyme Essential for Battle Against
Bacteria in the Intestine
  + New Technique Identifies M. tuberculosis Genes

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-microb.html#articles


   NEUROSCIENCES

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + New Research Method Reveals High-Density Information Storage
in the Brain
  + High Brain Centers Teach Lower Brain to Adapt to Injury
  + Study Spotlights Uniqueness of Human Brain
  + What the Cat Saw (experiment confirms scientists'
understanding of the language of certain visual neurons)
  + Brain Center Likes Action, Not Decisions
  + Work Probes Why Habits Are Hard to Make, Break

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-neuros.html#articles


   PHYSIOLOGY  BIOPHYSICS

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Molecular Muscle Motor Found to Move Backwards

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-physio.html#articles


   VIROLOGY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Prion Meets Its Doppelgänger
  + HIV's Deep Pocket May Reveal Vulnerability
  + Treatment Options for Chronic Hepatitis: Antivirals Look
Promising
  + New York Virus "Could Be New to West"

References

   1. http://www.scicentral.com/B-virolo.html#articles


   WILDLIFE, FISHERIES,  BIODIVERSITY

 * [1]Selected Articles:
  + Bass Are Bad News for Lake Trout
 

[CTRL] The Last Circle

1999-10-01 Thread Tenorlove

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Thanks to all of you who sent part 3. I received 8 copies, both on and
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Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco

1999-10-01 Thread Gavin Phillips

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Virtually everything Stephen Jones says about the OKC bombing is useless. His
book, Others Unknown was 99% drivel. He even adhered to the government's
totally unproven nitromethane enhanced truck bomb scenario because it makes
the governments case a little stronger. He is a government stooge who did
very little to shed light on the massive government malfeasance in the OKC
bombing. Instead he bilked 15 million of taxpayers money on a charade.
Another gutless lawyer who sold out for a little fame and plenty of money.
Gavin.

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  Subject: [CTRL] McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco
  Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 7:48 AM
 
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  From The Oklahoman,
 http://www.oklahoman.com/cgi-bin/getarticle?ID=372785
  -
  McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco
  09/09/1999
  The Associated Press
 
  The attorney who defended Timothy McVeigh says he does not believe the
  Oklahoma City federal building would have been bombed had the entire
 truth
  about the Branch Davidian standoff near Waco, Texas, been told
 immediately.
  Attorney Stephen Jones said he agrees with federal prosecutors that the
  fiery end to the Waco standoff prompted the bombing.
 
  "Had the wheels of justice worked and there been an independent
  investigation and the responsibility assessed, there would have been no
  reason for an attack on the federal government in Oklahoma City," Jones
 told
  the Tulsa World for Thursday's editions.
 
  Prosecutors alleged that McVeigh was angry about how the government
 handled
  its attempt to arrest David Koresh at the Branch Davidian compound in
 1993.
 
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Re: [CTRL] sleep

1999-10-01 Thread Tenorlove

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Tine Thevenin wrote about infant co-sleeping practices in "The Family
Bed" available through La Leche League http://www.lalecheleague.org .
Dr. William Sears, a pediatrician in Southern California, has also done
research on co-sleeping, showing that infants who sleep with their
mothers are less likely to die of SIDS. Sears believes that this is
because the mother's heart rhythm regulates the baby's heart rhythm.
Sears' books are available through LLL also. I found in my own
experience that when my children were infants, I got a LOT more sleep
if they were in bed with me. When they got hungry all I had to do was
roll over. Most of the time they nursed without either of us fully
waking up. I have been seeing some things on TV that are against
co-sleeping. I would like to know if the purveyors of these reports are
being paid by baby furniture manufacturers or formula companies.
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[CTRL] Earn a few bucks - REALLY

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Re: [CTRL] ******Re:[CTRL] Bahamas******

1999-10-01 Thread Linda Minor

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Para wrote:
The Turks  Caicos Islands have a pretty interesting history, I've heard.
Just talk in the [at that time - the only] hotel on Grand Turk
about 10/12 years ago about some Freemasons who came over from Miami
and/or other places in Florida to build something or other.
=

That was to be the next island I looked at.  It has been used mostly as a
way station for smuggling of slaves and now drugs.  For this reason, it is
also one of the new havens for money laundering and hiding assets from U.S.
government.

Linda Minor
http://www.sundialvillas.com/history.html

   The Islands were originally inhabited in 750 AD by the Tainos people,
later renamed the Lucayans. Middle Caicos had the largest and most elaborate
Lucayan settlement in the Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos Islands (6,000
persons). Thousands of artifacts have been found on the Island.

Columbus' first land fall was Grand Turk in 1492. There he encountered
people who farmed, fished and owned no weapons of war. By the year 1540
there was not a single Lucayan person left. These peoples, known as The
Peaceful Ones, were annihilated by battles with the cannibalistic Caribs
from the north, slaves taken to work in mines in Hispanola and disease
brought by the Spanish.

Over the next 100 years there were no settlers, but pirates used the Islands
as hideaways and resting stops. 1630 saw Bermudans and Europeans traveling
to the islands. Claimed by the Spanish, the French and finally the English,
the Islands are today a British Protectorate.

British Empire Loyalists started coming from the American Colonies in 1784.
Using land grants, they established slave run plantations harvesting sugar
cane, cotton and sisal. Blockades by the Americans in 1812 forced these land
owners to seek refuge on other British islands. Homes and slaves were
abandoned. Many families now living in the Caicos can trace their ancestry
back to these times.

The people in the settlement of Bambarra on Middle Caicos are believed to be
direct descendants from the Village of Bombarra located on the Slave Trail
in West Africa. A Spanish slaver shipwrecked off the Middle Caicos coast in
1842. The survivors established a village named after their home in Africa.

Today, Provodenciales (Provo) is the main island of development. The 15,000
West Indian people living their make up more than half the population of
Turks and Caicos. Middle Caicos at present has less than 300 persons living
on the Island. Cockburn, Grand Turk is the Capital and the seat of
Government.

The Turks and Caicos Islands are a British protectorate. They are governed
by an appointed Governor and a Chief Minister who heads an elected
Legislative Council. The council is comprised of thirteen representatives
elected every four years, three appointed members, and a speaker. Tourism,
land development, as well as offshore banking and financial services are the
basis of today's economy.

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[CTRL] The Bush Family's Nazi Legacy

1999-10-01 Thread Sean McDougal

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From: Pharaoh Chromium 93 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

from www.disinfo.com

The Bush Nazi Coke Moonie Connection
This past April, Texas Governor George W. Bush proclaimed a week of
remembrance for the Holocaust. He said, I urge Texans to never forget
the inhumanity of those who perpetrated the Holocaust, and reflect upon our
own humanity and our responsibility to respect all peoples. Good advice.

He should reflect upon his own family, if he is interested in reflecting on
inhumanity.

G. W.s grandfather and great-grandfather, Prescott Bush and George
Herbert Walker, were among the chief American fundraisers for Germanys Nazi
Party. Through industrialist Fritz Thyssen, the Bush-run Union Banking
Company and W. A. Harriman  Company, the Bushes sold over $50 million in
German bonds to American investors, starting in 1924. Thyssen in turn pumped
money into the infant Nazi Party, which had proved its desire to rule and
its willingness to use brute force in 1923s Munich Beer Hall Putsch.

George Walker, GWs great-grandfather, also set up the takeover of the
Hamburg-America Line, a cover for I.G. Farbens Nazi espionage unit in
the United States. In Germany, I. G. Farben was most famous for putting the
gas in gas chambers; it was the producer of Zyklon B and other gasses used
on victims of the Holocaust. The Bush family was not unaware of the nature
of their investment partners. They hired Allen Dulles, the future head of
the CIA, to hide the funds they were making from Nazi investments and the
funds they were sending to Nazi Germany, rather than divest. It was only in
1942, when the government seized Union Banking Company assets under the
Trading With The Enemy Act, that George Walker and Prescott Bush stopped
pumping money into Hitlers regime.

George Bush, then an eighteen year-old man, held off entering Yale (a
long-time Bush family destination, Prescott had graduated in 1917) to
enter the military, perhaps to remove some of the tarnish from his
familys honor. After the war, however, Bush joined the intelligence
community and utilized his own connections to help fund drug runners from
Laos to Panama. Most shocking was the so-called cocaine coup in Bolivia in
June 1980, masterminded by fugitive Nazi Klaus Barbie, The Butcher Of Lyons.

Bush, as director of the CIA, had funneled enormous amounts of cash to
drug runners including Manuel Noriega and helped in the destabilization of
Argentina. Barbie, who had been previously secreted in Latin America by the
CIA, began working closely with the Argentines and used drug money to
finance a neo-Nazi cabal, one that succeeded in overthrowing the government.
The troops swept through the capital wearing Nazi armbands, according to
former DEA agent Mike Levine. They may as well have been wearing armbands
portraying syringes, dollar bills and Bush For President buttons.

After the cocaine coup, the notorious Unification Church, the Moonie
cult, began making inroads across Latin America. Among the first to arrive
in La Paz after the Nazi/coke coup was Bo Hi Pak, Rev. Sun Myung Moons right
hand man. Moon had invested $4 million in the coup, it so turns out, and
still had plenty of money left over to help finance George Bush's campaign
for president in 1988. Moonie lieutenant Thomas Ward also acted as the
go-between between Barbie and his CIA payrollers. The Moonies were also
large funders of the Contras and heavy investors in Latin America generally.
Bush is still in Moons pocket: as recently as 1996, former President Bush
flew to Argentina to appeal to Argentine president Carlos Menem to attend
the gala celebration for Moons latest right-wing newspaper. Bush has made
hundreds of thousands of dollars stumping for Moon groups since leaving the
Oval Office, and has been working to make sure GW Bush gets his share of
drug-tainted, Nazi managed cult money for the latest Presidential campaign.
That is something we should all reflect
on.

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[CTRL] Culture Activists Defend Cyber Disobedience

1999-10-01 Thread Sean McDougal

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Culture Activists Defend Cyber Disobedience

  Dressed in black and armed with an audio-video
presentation reminiscent of the cyberpunk film "Blade Runner,"
two "hacktivists" from the Electronic Disturbance Theater
cut an unusual swath at a gathering this week of information
warfare professionals heavily populated by men in military
uniforms.

  Stefan Wray and Ricardo Dominguez — two
self-styled electronic artists and political activists from EDT
— kicked off their presentation of "The Politics of Infowar"
by comparing themselves to Daniel appearing in the lion's den.

  Denying that their actions constituted "hacking" or were
in any way illegal, the duo nevertheless mounted a defense
of "cyber civil disobedience." They recounted some of their
previous actions, including a denial-of-service program
called FloodNet, which they launched against Mexican government
computer servers as a means of expressing support for the
Zapatistas.

  "We don't consider ourselves hackers," said Dominguez,
who said he defined the term as an attempt to infiltrate a
Web site, rearrange, or deliberately crash a computer.

  "As politics becomes technologized, and technology
becomes more politicized, we can expect more hacktivism,"
said Wray.

  They sees themselves as "digital Zapatistas" who are happy
to use the notoriety they have gained from electronic disturbances
to spread propaganda against the Mexican government to
a "military-entertainment" complex that would not otherwise
hear this point of view.

  EDT's most notorious action, a FloodNet attack against
a Pentagon Web site on September 9, 1998, was thwarted
when the Department of Defense retaliated with a Java
applet called "hostileapplet," which caused the digital protesters'
computers to crash.

  Dominguez and Wray said they had talked with
lawyers at Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet
and Society about the possibility of suing the government
for violating the 1878 Posse Comitatus law that bans the use of
the military in domestic law enforcement.

  "In the same way that the Pentagon is not allowed
to use B-52s against New York City, they may also
not be allowed to use offensive information war
tactics against civilians," said Dominguez.

  But judging by the stream of attendees who deserted
the presentation midstream, the duo's thoughts weren't
too well received.

  "I need some toilet paper to clean out my ears
after listening to that propaganda," said Michel Kabay,
director of research and development for the ICSA labs
— and who is not known for his kind words for hackers —
to Winn Schwartau, director of consulting firm Interpact
and a conference organizer. Schwartau said he found
Dominguez and Wray's willingness to publicly take
responsibility for their actions provided an important
perspective on information warfare.

  - by Drew Clark

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[CTRL] Colombia the Drug War: Reconsidering Prohibition

1999-10-01 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: Colombian Labor Monitor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Colombia  the "Drug War": Reconsidering Prohibition
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:40:32 -0500 (CDT)

[NOTE: Stanley Crouch is a right-wing commentator
that, while ill-informed on Colombia, has some
interesting arguments and colorful images in his
commentary. -DG]

Monday, 27 September 1999

**
* COMMENTARY *
**

The drug war is being lost
--

By Stanley Crouch

THERE is a very big story brewing concerning the nation of Colombia and
the need for this nation to reconsider the legalization of drugs.

Because of what is happening in Colombia, we have a chance to rethink our
drug policies and make some brave national decisions that could bring the
nation out of the hole illegal drugs has pulled it into.

We are edging closer and closer to military involvement in Colombia. That is
happening because the drug dealers there have made so many billions of
dollars that they are able to finance armies on both the right and the
left to protect their product.

The product constitutes somewhere between a quarter and half the cocaine
sold in the shadow world of U.S. crime.

This is something that has no precedent in modern society. What does have
a precedent is America's stumbling and bumbling its way into a situation
that
cannot be settled easily.

The situation is the result of a long history of troubles that have
embittered the people of Colombia to such an extent that all the
corruption works in favor of the drug dealers, men who have shown they
are willing to murder anyone who threatens them.

White House drug policy adviser Barry McCaffrey adamantly opposes drug
legalization. He thinks we can win the war on drugs. But he does not
understand that our propping up the government of Colombia with $ 550
million in military aid will not do the job at all because the drug
dealers will outspend us.

In fact, they probably have already. Leftist rebels control half the
nation. Now the rebels have cut a deal with the dope dealers just as
members of Colombia's right wing did earlier and are being paid to guard
the dealers while battling the government.

If we get into this mess, somebody's bird is going to be cooked, and I don't
doubt that the American eagle will be on the menu, with Vietnamese spices
and dressing.

The war on drugs cannot be won on the U.S. end of the traffic, either.
There is just too much money out there. When one person goes down, others
immediately rush to take his or her place.

Police departments have to fight the internal corruption wrought by
drug-money bribes. Lower-income communities have to suffer the dangers
that go with young people seeking out swift riches in a business where
life is cheap and terror expansive.

Drugs need to be legalized, privatized and taxed. That would bring plenty of
legal money into society and provide enough funding for rehabilitation.

What happened with liquor should happen with dope. Just as the nation didn't
become a land of hopeless alcoholics with the end of Prohibition, it will
not
become one of helpless drug addicts. That goes against human nature.

It will take substantial courage on the part of Bill Clinton or George W.
Bush
or Bill Bradley or Al Gore or whoever finally steps before the microphone to
talk about all this. But there has never been a better opportunity than now,
because we can so easily see that continuing the war on drugs by trying to
stop imports just isn't working.

Of course, if drugs were legalized in order to destroy their business, those
Colombian drug billionaires would know what to do. First, they would finance
lobbyists to oppose the legalization.

After they lost, they would go on to do what all robber barons have done. In
their case, they could buy plenty of stock in pharmaceutical companies.

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[CTRL] Pat Buchanan: Equal Opportunity Maligner

1999-10-01 Thread Sean McDougal





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FAIR Report: Pat Buchanan-Equal Opportunity Maligner


In recent days, Patrick Buchanan has been blaming the news media for
dishonest reporting on his new book "A Republic, Not An Empire," which
raises questions about U.S. intervention in World War II.

Since Buchanan is vehemently denying that he is bigoted toward Jews or
anyone else, FAIR thought it was an appropriate time to reprint our 1996
compendium of Buchanan quotes documenting the presidential candidate's
broad-ranging bigotry.


==
FAIR Report: Pat Buchanan In His Own Words


February 26, 1996

Here is a sampling of Buchanan's views:


On African-Americans

After Sen. Carol Moseley Braun blocked a federal patent for a Confederate
flag insignia, Buchanan wrote that she was "putting on an act" by
associating the Confederacy with slavery: "The War Between the States was
about independence, about self-determination, about the right of a people to
break free of a government to which they could no longer give allegiance,"
Buchanan asserted. "How long is this endless groveling before every cry of
'racism' going to continue before the whole country collectively throws up?"
(syndicated column, 7/28/93)

On race relations in the late 1940s and early 1950s: "There were no politics
to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'negroes' of Washington
had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and
churches; and we had ours." ("Right from the Beginning," Buchanan's 1988
autobiography, p. 131)

Buchanan, who opposed virtually every civil rights law and court decision of
the last 30 years, published FBI smears of Martin Luther King Jr. as his own
editorials in the St. Louis Globe Democrat in the mid-1960s. "We were among
Hoover's conduits to the American people," he boasted ("Right from the
Beginning," p. 283).

White House advisor Buchanan urged President Nixon in an April 1969 memo not
to visit "the Widow King" on the first anniversary of Martin Luther King's
assassination, warning that a visit would "outrage many, many people who
believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse Others
consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men
in contemporary history." (New York Daily News, 10/1/90)

In a memo to President Nixon, Buchanan suggested that "integration of blacks
and whites -- but even more so, poor and well-to-do -- is less likely to
result in accommodation than it is in perpetual friction, as the incapable
are placed consciously by government side by side with the capable."
(Washington Post, 1/5/92)

In another memo from Buchanan to Nixon: "There is a legitimate grievance in
my view of white working-class people that every time, on every issue, that
the black militants loud-mouth it, we come up with more money If we can
give 50 Phantoms [jet fighters] to the Jews, and a multi-billion dollar
welfare program for the blacks...why not help the Catholics save their
collapsing school system." (Boston Globe, 1/4/92)

Buchanan has repeatedly insisted that President Reagan did so much for
African-Americans that civil rights groups have no reason to exist: "George
Bush should have told the [NAACP convention] that black America has grown
up; that the NAACP should close up shop, that its members should go home and
reflect on JFK's admonition: 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but
rather ask what you can do for your country.'" (syndicated column, 7/26/88)

In a column sympathetic to ex-Klansman David Duke, Buchanan chided the
Republican Party for overreacting to Duke and his Nazi "costume": "Take a
hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in
conflict with GOP principles, [such as] reverse discrimination against white
folks." (syndicated column, 2/25/89)

Trying to justify apartheid in South Africa, he denounced the notion that
"white rule of a black majority is inherently wrong. Where did we get that
idea? The Founding Fathers did not believe this." (syndicated column,
2/7/90) He referred admiringly to the apartheid regime as the "Boer
Republic": "Why are Americans collaborating in a U.N. conspiracy to ruin her

[CTRL] More Get Paid to Surf Sites

1999-10-01 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Hi all,

With the help of DanS, I've just located and signed up for a whole bunch of
"get paid to surf" sites.

I'm trying to organize the information as best as possible to make it easy
for you.  Sign up for none, one or all.

Remember the address I used for these sites is:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some sites ask for my reference number or email address.  I'll just go
right down the list to make it easy for you.

This is a win-win for everyone, so jump aboard and earn some cash for
hanging on the Net like I know you like to do anyway.

Hitmaster (Data X Inc.):  Use the following URL and it will automatically
add to my account:
http://www.data-x.com/hitmaster/acc.asp?rid=21039

UtopiaAd:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
account:
http://www.utopiad.com/member/getPaid?refId=161855

All community:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
account:
http://AllCommunity.com/all.members/hilary/

DotAd:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account:
http://www.dotad.com/Default.asp?ID=175911

SharkHunt:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
account:
http://www.sharkhunt.com/join/join.asp?shID=Hilary

SendMoreInfo:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
account:
http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/115670


PayBar.  Use my ID# 1401181907 and go to:  http://www.paybar.com

I have some more to send out, but this should get you started.

Hilary

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[CTRL] [RuMills] GOVERNOR VENTURA'S COMMENTS

1999-10-01 Thread Linda Minor





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October 1, 1999

From Rumor Mill News:

What do you think about Governor Jesse Ventura's comments:

Post YOUR COMMENTS to the Rumor Mill News Forum  A
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Click on the "Forum" button at the bottom of the page. Make sure you click
the "post message" button after you have written your thoughts.

In case you have missed the current t"empest in a teapot" created by the
Governor, I have included a piece from FOXNews. (If you haven't read it, you
won't understand the following.)

As for the Tailhook Massacre...

Ventura didn't go far enough in defending the Tailhookers. When you
understand that the entire Tailhook Scandal was created to get rid of the
high ranking naval officers that were running Faction 2, you begin to
understand why it happened.

President Clinton spent the first two years doing everything he could to get
rid of the few remaining military men who still believed in the Constitution.
Most of these men were forced to retire or were courtmarshalled.

Navy Intelligence ran Faction 2. At the time, Faction 2 was the only
opposition to the New World Order. Many of the men who attended the Tail Hook
conference were either members of Faction 2, or were sympathetic to their
cause.

Tail Hook was also used to break the moral of the Navy. In my belief, it
succeeded. One of these days I will resurrect the original Rumor Mill News
articles that were written back in 95 and 96 on the Tail Hook Massacre.

To fully understand Tailhookers, you have to put your normal mind on a shelf,
suspend all judgement and try to see life from their eyes. If you train men
to be killers, you can't expect them to act like normal people. For years,
the Tail Hook Parties were designed to be a place where "Trained American
Killers" could blow off steam in a "cloistered" environment. Isn't it strange
that all the women who attended the previous Tailhook Parties haven't  come
forth and cried "Rape" or "Grope" or whatever they chose to cry?

For the most part, the women who attended Tail Hook parties, or similar
parties, were members of the larger Tailhook Family. They knew what to expect
at such parties. If they didn't want to be groped or grabbed, then they
didn't get anywhere near a Tailhook Party.

While married to the Chairman of the Physics Department at the Naval
Postgraduate School, I attended many parties given by Naval officers and
their wives. I also attended many "retirement" parties. Some were quite
ordinary, but others were every bit as raucous as Tail Hook.

We always knew when the parties were going to be "mini Tailhooks", because
these parties would be held in the Officer's Club at the nearby Army Post
AKA, the Defense Language School on the Presidio of Monterey. Navy men always
remember and rely on these famous words of advice, "Whenever necessary
blame the Army!"

Also realize that the "women's movement" has been used to destroy America's
fighting force. Congresswoman Patricia Schroeder was the person who led the
attack to destroy our military. Tailhook was only one piece of a larger plan
to demoralize and destroy the military of the United States of America. Jesse
Ventura spoke truth when he talked about Tail Hook but he didn't go far
enough!!!

As for all the people who have sent emails to Rumor Mill News regarding
Ventura and their continued support of him, please take the time and post
your messages to the Rumor Mill News Forum. If you don't want your real name
to be known, go to Yahoo.com or one of the other free email services and sign
up under an alias.

For the record, most of the mail I have received has been in support of the
Governor. Many of the senders have stated that if he were on the ballot, they
might even register and vote.

Could the two parties be lashing out at anything Ventura does in order to get
him out of the race permanently? If my mail is any clue to what is
happening,"tuned out and turned off America" believes Jesse Ventura is the
candidate that will make  them  register and vote.

Jesse Ventura speaks for a large group of people who have checked out of the
system because they see their votes as wasted. Most of these people are
younger, irreverent, non religious, and admire Ventura  because he shoots
from the hip and doesn't mince words and conform his thoughts to whatever
group he is courting today.

Most informed voters should know by now that when it comes to Republican and
Democratic candidates, the American public doesn't have the slightest idea
what these men and women stand for. Their images are created and polished by
"image makers". Their speeches are written for them by "speech makers". Their
interviews are scripted and agreed upon by "advisors" before the interviewer
is ever allowed near the candidate.

By the time the candidate creates an "exploratory" group, anything that was
original or spontaneous in the candidate has been repressed or eliminated. Is
it any wonder that a 

[CTRL] Montego Bay, Jamaica

1999-10-01 Thread Linda Minor

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http://www.go-jamaica.com/gleaner/discover/tour_ja/tour12.htm

Nine miles west of Montego Bay Round Hill, "not a hotel, more a way of
life," appears consistently in the Harper's and Queen list of the Three
Hundred Best Hotels in the World. Round Hill was created in 1953 by John
Pringle, a member of an old Jamaican family who was later a successful
Director of Tourism. The concept of a nucleus hotel with luxurious satellite
villas owned by shareholders and built to their own design was used shortly
afterwards at Half Moon and Tryall. The Round Hill, 53 acres of land almost
encircled by the sea, was purchased from Lord Monson, owner of the large
cattle and coconut estate. Original shareholders included broadcasting
magnate Bill Paley of CBC, Noel Coward, Oscar Hammerstein and Gladys Cooper.
The roster has changed with the years but Round Hill remains a magnet for
the slightly conservative jet-set. A stellar event of the Winter Season,
Round Hill's Sugar Cane Ball raises money for charities in the parish of
Hanover.

Hopewell is a bustling village; the photogenic Methodist church at the cross
roads was built in the1870ís. Back on the open road there are two
interesting craft shacks L and a sign offering the services of Captain
Steamer (snorkelling guide) just before the Old Steamer beach where the
skeleton of an old coastal steamer is a reminder of the days when these
boats were a vital transportation link. Captain Groome of Rio Bueno
captained this one, and it was reportedly used to run guns to Cuba in the
revolt against Spain.

Flint River, now a cattle property, has an old stone wharf with cannon and
is one of many estates with extensive ruins of slavery-built sugar works.

Tryall Golf and Beach Club (with a beach club guarded by cannons from the
erstwhile Tryall fort) is a 2,200 acre residential estate with 50 villas, a
small hotel, gourmet dining rooms, manicured grounds, and a golf course
which hosts the annual Johnny Walker Championship. One of Tryall's original
shareholders was Governor John Connally of Texas. Current homeowners, though
low profile, are representative of the financial, industrial, political,
diplomatic and publishing establishments and constitute a unique and
influential international colony. As Tryall's late and much lamented
Managing Director Count Kenneth Diacre de Liancourt used to explain: 'We
don't make any pretence you know, it's a rich man's club, its no good coming
to Tryall unless you are prepared to spend money . . . there's nothing
shameful in being rich, you mustn't be mean that's all.' Created in 1956,
Tryall does not reflect the economic and social changes that the island has
undergone since then, but the citizens of Hanover cherish considerable
loyalty to this institution which employs about 500 persons year round and
contributes lavishly and conscientiously (noblesse oblige) to local
charities and community projects. Tryall was originally a large sugar
plantation. The giant water wheel L of the road which turned the mill in the
factory has been restored and is sometimes still powered by water
transported from Flint River via a 2 mile aqueduct. In the 1832 slave
rebellion Tryall Great House was damaged and the estate burnt. Embedded in
the lawn at the entrance to the hotel is a fragment of the gravestone which
commemorates the headman of the estate "shot by rebels while defending his
masters' property."

===
http://parascope.com/articles/1196/torbitt.htm

The principal financiers of Permindex were a number of U. S.
oil  companies, H. L. Hunt of Dallas, Clint Murchison of  Dallas,
John  DeMenil, Solidarist director of Houston, John  Connally  as
executor  of  the  Sid  Richardson estate,  Haliburton  Oil  Co.,
Senator Robert Kerr of Oklahoma, Troy Post of Dallas, Lloyd  Cobb
of  New  Orleans, Dr. Oschner of New Orleans, George  and  Herman
Brown  of Brown and Root, Houston, Attorney Roy M. Cohn, Chairman
of  the  Board  for Lionel Corporation, New York  City,  Schenley
Industries of New York City, Walter Dohrnberger, ex-Nazi  General
and  his company, Bell Aerospace, Pan American World Airways, its
subsidiary,  Intercontinental Hotel Corporation, Paul Raigorodsky
of  Dallas  through his company, Claiborne Oil  of  New  Orleans,
Credit Suisse of Canada, Heineken's Brewery of Canada and a  host
of  other  munition makers and NASA contractors directed  by  the
Defense Industrial Security Command.
  The  gambling  syndicate and Mafia contracting  agents  who
handled the transactions with Permindex were ex-President  Carlos
Prio Socarras of Havana, Miami and Houston, Clifford Jones of Las
Vegas, Morris Dalitz of Las Vegas, Detroit, Cleveland and Havana,
former head of the Cleveland mob and close friend of Hunt, Hoover
and Roy Cohn, L.J. McWillie of Las Vegas, a gambling partner with
Cliff Jones, Bobby Baker of Washington, D.C., Ed Levinson of  Las
Vegas,  Benny  Seigelbaum  of  Miami,  Henry  Crown  of  Chicago,
associate of the Mafia, Patrick Hoy 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [prj] FEMA Concentration Camps]

1999-10-01 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Thanks Mark!

 Original Message 
Subject: [prj] Fwd: FEMA Concetration Camps
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:34:07 -0500
From: "Mark A. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Subject:
  Patriotic Fraud
 Date:
  Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:18:44 +
From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization:
  The Vigo Examiner
  To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 EDITORIAL

  Patriotic Fraud

 On Wednesday we ran a letter titled American Death Camps.
 The writer, under the pseudonym "Samuel Foster," claimed to
 be a high ranking military officer who had obtained a
 conscience and decided to expose a conspiracy, from an
 insider's perspective, to murder up to twenty million
 Americans in death camps within the next two years.

 The response from our readership has been very high.  To
 your credit, very few accepted the story uncritically, with
 almost all requesting further information and a way to
 verify the contents of the letter.  This is very
 encouraging, as blind acceptance of unsubstantiated claims
 has been a more prevalent in the past.

 But the most representative reply we have received arrived a
 full five days before we approved the  publication of the
 letter from "Samuel Foster."  Robin Plank's thoughtful
 critique is included in today's edition for your review.
 Mrs. Plank's letter very well encapsulates the range of
 responses received by The Vigo Examiner.

 Having received the same letter over the internet, she
 identified several parts of the letter that strongly
 indicated that it might be a fraud, but did not move to a
 conclusion, as no conclusive evidence was present.  Instead
 she logically deduced a means of verification, identified a
 course of action to be taken if the information was
 verified, and sent her reply here..

 For the many who have requested further information, we have
 chosen to provide it in this space and by placing the long
 list of alleged death camps at the end of this article on
 our website, http://Vigo-Examiner.com

 In our attempt to verify the true source of the letter we
 ended up with one Victor C. Forsythe, c/o Essene
 Cooperative, 1705 14th St. #408, Boulder, CO. 80302, email
 address [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Our request for further
 information was answered with an apparently fabricated "AP"
 article on a totally unrelated subject.  When pressed to
 produce information on topic we were given an old, largely
 discredited list of alleged concentration camps that has
 been moving around the internet for several years, not the
 kind of information one would expect from a true inside
 source.

 We include a small portion of that list here:

 Indiana:
  *Thousands of acres* located just out of Indianapolis,
  Indiana holds a large Concentration camp facility
  complete with barracks, high fence, razor wire, towers,
  turnstyles, a railroad, helicopter landing pads, and
  what appears to be three large furnaces with 3inch
  mains on one of the buildings. This is a massive
  facility, still under construction with a completition
  date sometime in 1996. *Ft. Benjamin Harrison* A U.S.
  Army facility located on the outskirts of Indianapolis
  will be used to hold prisoners of the NWO. *Ft. Wayne *
  FEMA Detention facility *Terre Haute* FEMA Detention
  facility.

 While descriptions of distant locations may appear ominous
 because one is unfamiliar with them, when they are on our
 doorstep, like the alleged "FEMA Detention facility" right
 here in Terre Haute, the ridiculous nature of it becomes
 apparent.

 For those unaware, the "FEMA Detention facility" referenced
 is the federal prison on US Hwy 63 southwest of town.  Past
 reports have it served by rail links to carry off the dead
 from the multi-victim death chambers.  As you know, there
 are no such rail links, and as locals helped build the death
 chamber, we know it to be built for one at a time.

 In 1995 I hosted a visit from the famed JJ Johnson, here on
 a fact finding mission to determine the truth of those
 allegations.  We drove to the actual sites alleged, and
 verified, up-close, that they were false.  Yet we have this
 "insider," who should know the real situation, trotting out
 the same story as the outsiders looking in, many doing their
 best with little to work with.

 Our repeat request for on topic information got this reply:

  Well I just forwarded an email is all I did. Wow, are
  you this way all the time? Or did your wife yell at you
  this morning? Fine, I'll send something else they sent
  me. But the way, if you don't like my forwards, you can
  call me "Da frogulent forwarder"!!!  LOL!!!  Hey and
  you believe we live in a democratic paradise and that
  your vote really counts.well.welcome to
  Fantasyland!!! 

[CTRL] UNDERWATER PYRAMIDS

1999-10-01 Thread Steve Wingate

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UNDERWATER PYRAMIDS

http://www.eagle-net.org/phikent/japan/japan2.html

One of the greatest discoveries in the history of archaeology was made last
summer, off Japan There, spread over an amazing 311 miles on the ocean
floor, are the well-preserved remains of an ancient city. Or at the very least,
a number of closely related sites.

In the waters around Okinawa and beyond to the small island of Yonaguni,
divers located eight separate locations beginning in March 1995. That first
sighting was equivocal - a provocative, squared structure, so encrusted
with coral that its manmade identity was uncertain. Then, as recently as the
summer of 1996, a sports diver accidentally discovered a huge, angular
platform about 40 feet below the surface, off the southwestern shore of
Okinawa. The feature’s artificial provenance was beyond question.
Widening their search, teams of more divers found another, different
monument nearby. Then another, and another. They beheld long streets,
grand boulevards, majestic staircases, magnificent archways, enormous
blocks of perfectly cut and fitted stone - all harmoniously welded together in
a linear architecture unlike anything they had ever seen before.

In the following weeks and months, Japan’s archaeological community
joined the feeding-frenzy of discovery. Trained professionals formed a
healthy alliance with the enthusiasts who first made the find. In a
progressive spirit of mutual respect an working alliance, academics and
amateurs joined forces to set an example of   cooperation for the rest of the
world. Their common cause soon bore rich fruit. In september, not far from
the shore of the island of Yonaguni, more then 300 airline miles south from
Okinawa, they found a gigantic, pyramidal structure in 100 feet of water. In
what appeared to be a ceremonial center of broad promenades and
flanking pylons, the gargantuan building measures 240 feet long.

Exceptionally clear sub-surface clarity, with 100 foot visibility a common
factor, allowed for thorough photographic documentation, both still
photography and video. These images provided the basis of japan’s
leading headlines for more than a year. Yet, not a word about the Okinawa
discovery reached the US public, until the magazine, “Ancient American”
broke the news last spring. Since that scoop, only the CNN network
televised a report about Japan’s underwater city. Nothing about it has been
mentioned in any of the nation’s other archaeology publications, not even in
any of our daily newspapers. One would imagine that such a mind-boggling
find would be the most exciting piece of news an archaeologist could
possibly hope to learn. Even so, outside of the “Ancient American” and
CNN’s single report, the pall of silence covering all the facts about
Okinawa’s structures screens them from view more effectively then their
location at the bottom of the sea. Why? How can this appalling neglect
persist in the face of a discovery of such unparalleled magnitude? At the
risk  of accusations of paranoia, one might conclude that a real conspiracy
of managed information dominates America’s well-springs of public
knowledge.

Frank Joseph - “Ancient American”

.

Divers Find World's Oldest Building

by Trushar Barot

A STRUCTURE thought to be the world's oldest building, nearly twice the
age of the great pyramids of Egypt, has been discovered. The rectangular
stone ziggurat under the sea off the coast of Japan could be the first
evidence of a previously unknown Stone Age civilisation, say
archeologists.

The monument is 600ft wide and 90ft high and has been dated to at least
8000BC. The oldest pyramid in Egypt, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara, was
constructed more than 5,000 years later.

The structure off Yonaguni, a small island southwest of Okinawa, was first
discovered 75ft underwater by scuba divers 10 years ago and locals
believed it was a natural phenomenon.

Professor Masaki Kimura, a geologist at Ryukyu University in Okinawa,
was the first scientist to investigate the site and has concluded that the
mysterious five-layer structure was man-made. "The object has not been
manufactured by nature. If that had been the case, one would expect debris
from erosion to have collected around the site, but there are no rock
fragments there," he said.

The discovery of what appears to be a road surrounding the building was
further evidence that the structure was made by humans, he added.

Robert Schoch, professor of geology at Boston University, dived at the site
last month. "It basically looks like a series of huge steps, each about a
metre high. Essentially, it's a cliff face like the side of a stepped pyramid.
It's a very interesting structure," he said. "It's possible that natural water
erosion combined with the process of cracked rocks splitting created such
a structure, but I haven't come across such processes creating a structure
as sharp as this."

Further evidence that the structure is the work of humans came with the
discovery 

[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Oct 1

1999-10-01 Thread William Shannon





UNDERNEWS
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POLITICIDE

With the sort of fidelity W.J. Clinton has for his mistresses, the media
consensus has suddenly started shifting away from the formerly 100% certain
Democratic nominee, Al Gore. Bradley's recent success in fundraising and a
few poll gains in liberal states have been all that was needed for the
prognosticators to rush off.

This sort of thing helps create a self-fulfilling prophesy just as it did
when virtually all of the campaign correspondents surveyed in 1992 said as
early as New Hampshire that they would pick Clinton if they could vote in
the state. In fact, one good reason for Gore to move to Tennessee is so he
can run against the Washington journalists and their attempted politicide
against him.

TPR's approach is different and, as a result, it has been able to come close
to the actual electoral vote count in the last two elections. What's our
secret? To use stock market terminology, we are chartists rather than
fundamentalists. Most of the TOYA -- Talking Out Your Ass -- crowd you see
on TV is telling you what should be happening if all were right with the
world. Chartists, on the other hand, are the existentialists of
prognostication. They accept the absurdity of the universe and look for
patterns without expecting or demanding that they be based in logic. In
other words, studying inertia reveals far more of God's ways than reading
David Broder does.

Here then are GWB's point spreads over Gore in the last 10 polls (reading
down):

oO
oO
oOoOooo
oOooo
oOooo
oOoo
oO
oOoo
oO
oOo

Which is to say, not much change. Now here are Bush's point spreads over
Bradley in recent polls

oOo
oOo
oOoo
oOooo
oOoo
oOo
oOoOo
oOooo
oOoo
oOo

Which is to say, some slippage by GWB but nothing significant yet. Now here
are national polls showing Gore's point spread over Bradley:

oOoOoOo
oOoOoOoOooo
oOoOo
oOoOooo
oOoOoOoo
oOoOoOoOo
oOoOoOo
oO
oOoOoo
oOoOoOooo

Again nothing to justify the Bradley boom in the media. On the other hand,
here's what happening to the Gore lead in a few places

Massachusetts
oO
ooo

New Hampshire
   |oOooo
   |oOo
   |oOoo
   |oOoo
   |oOooo
   |ooo
   |
   |oo
ooo| [Bradley lead]

New York
oO
o
oo
oo

Rhode Island
o

In New Jersey Bradley beats Bush, while Gore loses. Gore's Tennessee, on the
other hand, is a toss-up.

In other words, Gore remains the same weak candidate he has been from the
start. Bradley has yet to gain significantly on Bush but has cut into Gore
in a few eastern liberal states. None of this, however, justifies the
Bradley boom in the media. If Bradley suddenly starts doing better, you can
credit the media's premature dumping of Gore as much as any virtues of the
Bradley camp.

Finally, here's a good indication that Bradley is taking off: he starts to
cut significantly into GWB's lead or he closes on Gore in important
non-liberal states.

TPR'S MORNING LINE http://prorev.com/amline.htm

STUPID POLITICIAN TRICKS

The Montgomery County MD Health Department order residents at a small town
fair to stop handing out candy to children. Said one resident, "I guess
we're lucky they didn't come along earlier when candy was being thrown off
floats in during the parade. The whole town could've ended up in the 

[CTRL] Virus Makes US Debut-5 Dead So Far.

1999-10-01 Thread William Shannon

 -Caveat Lector-

Fifth Death Linked to West Nile Virus Reported
--
--

By Grant McCool

NEW YORK, Oct 01 (Reuters) - Health authorities on Wednesday reported another
death in New York caused by a mosquito-borne encephalitic virus never before
diagnosed in the Western hemisphere, boosting the death toll to five.

New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Neal Cohen told a news conference that
scientists had confirmed that the West Nile virus caused the death of a
79-year-old woman in New York City on September 11.

Four people are now confirmed to have died in New York City and a fifth in
Westchester County north of the city. Cohen said that he had no information
about a reported death in Toronto, where health officials said that a man who
had visited New York earlier this month died Saturday, possibly from the
disease.

In Atlanta, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that
the virus had also infected birds and mosquitoes in Connecticut. Scientists
have not been able to explain how the West Nile virus reached the United
States.

As reported on Reuters Health, the outbreak, previously believed to be St.
Louis Encephalitis (SLE), came to the attention of New York City health
officials in August and prompted authorities to spray the entire city with
insecticide in early September in an attempt to kill off mosquitoes.

The CDC said that it would spearhead a door-to-door study this weekend in the
borough of Queens, where the majority of cases have been diagnosed, to find
out more about how the virus took hold.

"Blood samples will be tested for antibodies to the virus," Dr. Ned Hayes, a
CDC epidemiologist and coordinator of the study, said at the news conference.
"We hope to get a better understanding of the symptoms of West Nile virus, as
well as possible risk factors for infection."

Cohen said that 31 cases of the virus had been confirmed in New York, up from
25 two days ago. He noted that 6 individuals were still hospitalized.

Health officials said that the CDC was testing more than 1,000 dead birds,
mostly crows, from New York and surrounding states to determine the extent of
disease transmission.

In New Jersey, health officials said that that they had established
surveillance programs for mosquitoes in all counties. Health officials in the
state's most populated county, Bergen County, with 860,000 people, said that
they had sent two or three dozen dead crows to the CDC for testing for the
West Nile virus.

"We have been on an extra heightened alert because of our close proximity to
New York," said Thomas Breslin, spokesman for New Jersey Department of
Health. "The focus now is on West Nile virus, but there have been no cases
found yet in the human population of New Jersey."




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[CTRL] Six Step Attitudinal Change Plan

1999-10-01 Thread earthman

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SIX STEP ATTITUDINAL CHANGE PLAN -- UPDATE TO SHOW HOW CLOSE TO THE END WE
TRULY MUST BE!! BE PREPARED TO BE SHOCKED AS YOU SEE HOW MUCH OF YOUR DAILY
LIFE IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY MANIPULATED.




The Six Step Attitudinal Change Plan gives New World Order Planners the
ability to silently, almost invisibly, change the attitudes and values of
the entire population of a people. They must achieve this before they stage
the appearance of their Christ. You will have trouble believing how much of
your daily life is being manipulated, but once you understand how this is
being accomplished, you can take steps to reduce its effect or eliminate it.
Learn to protect your loved ones.
Nothing seems so insidious to most people than the idea that some force is
manipulating and changing their life silently, invisibly. People react so
negatively, it seems they feel almost violated, almost raped. Back in the
early 1960's, as I recall, the American people learned that a process of
'invisible' advertising had been successfully developed and tested in
theaters, called Subliminal Advertising. Such an uproar of protest ensued
that the movie industry pledged never to use subliminals for advertising
purposes. This pledge came at just the right time, because Congress was
about to pass legislation making the use of subliminals illegal. The pledge
by the TV Industry defused the crisis and Congress never passed such
legislation. Even today, the use of subliminals is not illegal, even though
most people still believe it is.

But, the point here is that people do not like being manipulated or
bombarded with stimuli, especially if they do not know it is happening to
them. The fear of the unknown ranks very high. How would most people react
if they only knew how many times daily they were being secretly, invisibly
bombarded with stimuli -- with stories, with debates, with many
circumstances, many of which were deliberately created or triggered -- that
was changing their values and their attitudes? How would people react if
they really understood that they are not their "own person", despite their
fervent desire to be just that? These people would feel violated -- mentally
and emotionally raped -- and they would be very, very angry!

This is why so much effort is expended to get people to believe that
subliminals do not exist, and would not work if they did exist. This is why
the media tries so hard to sell its "integrity" and "honesty" with their
listeners, so their listeners would not believe that their favorite TV
channel could possibly be adversely effecting them in any way, shape, or
form.

But, the media is ruining your life. In Seminar 1, "America's Leadership Of
The New World Order, we show, in detail, the many ways in which you and your
loved ones are being brutally molested by TV, movies, and the print media.
This molestation is not sexual; it is mental, emotional, and above all,
spiritual. In this article, we will be dealing with the most sophisticated
device of all for changing the lives, attitudes, and value systems of entire
populations of people, without the people being the least bit aware of what
is happening to them. This process is called the Six Step Attitudinal Change
Plan, and we have covered it before, in NEWS1006, and in Radio Transcripts,
CE1002 and CE1007. We encourage you to thoroughly read this material, so you
can completely understand how this terrible Plan works. While we do not
intend to detail the workings of this Plan as we did in these previous
articles, we want to list the ways in which this Plan is being utilized in
American Society today. After all, this Plan is so very effective that it is
being utilized in all areas of society in which the change from Christian
Values to Satanic Values is deemed necessary.

But, first, let us list the 6 steps of this Attitudinal Change Plan:



SIX STEP ATTITUDINAL CHANGE PLAN

Step 1. Some practice so offensive that it can scarcely be discussed in
public is advocated by a RESPECTED expert in a RESPECTED forum.

Step 2. At first, the public is shocked, then outraged.

Step 3. But, the VERY FACT that such a thing could be publicly debated
becomes the SUBJECT

of the debate.

Step 4. In the process, sheer repetition of the shocking subject under
discussion gradually dulling its effect.

Step 5. People then are no longer shocked by the subject.

Step 6. No longer outraged, people begin to argue for positions to moderate
the extreme; or, they accept the premise, challenging, instead, the means to
ACHIEVE it.


This insidious method of changing the deeply-held attitudes of people is
being successfully directed toward the American population as a whole.
Millions of people are experiencing attitudinal changes on a wide variety of
subjects today. This attitudinal change is essential to achieving the New
World Order.


With the way this Plan works in the hearts and minds of all 

[CTRL] New Australian?

1999-10-01 Thread Bill Richer

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Can someone tell me Web Address of New Australian?

Bill

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[CTRL] Kenn Thomas Dares The Octupus.

1999-10-01 Thread William Shannon

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COME AND GET ME, OCTOPUS!
KEITH CO-AUTHOR RESUMES COLUMN

Commentary by Kenn Thomas
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"If Fate should break my stride, I'll give you my Vincent to ride..." -
Richard Thompson, 1952, Vincent Black Lightning.


I don't know if I came to the Richard Thompson concert along the Mississippi
riverfront this past weekend to help with closure over Jim Keith's death, but
these words went a long way in that direction. Jim may have died pursuing the
pregnancy angle of the Princess Diana story, and Thompson - a folk rock
legend, founder of Fairport Convention, revered for his words - is a
particularly smart-ass limey. He mugged a Woody Guthrie bit, singing, "This
land is your land, this land is your land, this land is your land..."
Thompson is also a Sufi mystic, and the sources of Jim's final column for
Nitro News about Diana were Sufi.


Coincidences, of course, but I confess a sentimental attachment to
coincidences, and a more than unconscious desire to fit my experience over
the death of Jim Keith into an understandable pattern. He's gone, and all
that's left are his books, which for the fortunate reader, provide a
perspective on history, on conspiracy, on what's happening right now and in
the future, as rare and unique as the '52 Vincent in the Thompson song.


I co-authored the Octopus with Jim Keith, and have now agreed to resume his
column exclusively in Nitro News, in part as defiance against the Octopus, if
that vicious beast had anything to with it. In this regard, I would like to
repeat the part of the Keith column that rumor suggests led to him being
offed:


"In 1998, one of my Sufi contacts, who chooses to remain anonymous, travelled
to London to participate in Dhikr, a remembrance of Allah. This ritual was
attended by both Sufis and orthodox Muslims. My contact reports that while
participating in this ceremony, he met Dodi Fayed's personal physician, a man
who is a Muslim, but is not a Sufi. In private conversation, the physician
told him that Diana and Dodi Fayed had planned on getting married, and that
he had personally examined her and determined that she was pregnant."


There, Octopus. Come after me. I don't have the name of the physician, but if
it is with Jim's research and if it comes into my hands, I'll out him right
away. That's what we did with Danny Casolaro's research, taking everything
that was left and finishing his book. It has become a relay race of
conspiracy writers, trying to get out the truth about this nasty transglobal
monster before it takes us down. Maybe it's a monster of our imagining. Maybe
Jim died of just a blood clot, although the anecdotal information I've
accumulated suggests this is very rare. In lieu of a real investigation
(still needed, although I was unsuccessful in raising money to fly to Reno
for the purpose), we can only guess. In any event, I will not go quietly, and
Jim cannot pass through this life without those questions being asked and
pursued as best as possible.


Readers unfamiliar with my work should know that I travel and lecture widely,
appear regularly on radio and TV throughout the country, and I publish the
conspiracy magazine Steamshovel Press. Jim parked his '52 Vincent at the
Steamshovel offices on occasion, and it's still being used for the car pool.


The Steamshovel take on Diana has been that she was collateral damage in an
aerospace espionage hit against Dodi Fayed for the sake of the Al Yamama
contract umbrella. The Saudis buy substandard military aircraft with loans
from Britain that cover far more than the cost. Mohamed Al-Fayed posed a
threat to this arrangement, particularly with his support of Tony Blair, and
he was sent a message about it via the killing of his son.


The consequent death of Diana, of course, served many ancillary purposes of
the British Royals, including its racist concerns over the pregnancy. One
suspected architect of the Dodi Fayed hit is his uncle, Adnan Khashoggi, who
spent much of his career developing the Al Yamama contracts. Danny Casolaro
was investigating him on the very day he (Casolaro) was found dead.


Mohamed Al-Fayed remains resolute in his determination to find out what
really happened to his son. In a recent BBC interview, primarily intended to
goad him into making inflammatory statements about the Royals, he made these
interesting remarks:


"Al-Fayed: I hate nobody. I just want to find justice.


BBC: But you have contempt for the Establishment, they have refused you
British citizenship.


Al-Fayed: I don't care about that, it is not important to me.


BBC: You used to care about it.


Al-Fayed: The way my son has been murdered, because I can't get to the truth,
I can't get killers because you cover yourselves with Official Secret Acts...


BBC: Do you not feel that you owe it to Diana's family, to her sons, who we
are told want to put an end to all this, to say, 'all right, 

[CTRL] The Christian at War

1999-10-01 Thread Mike Kathy Moxley

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THE CHRISTIAN AT WAR

By Peter Hammond Frontline Fellowship P.O.Box 74 Newlands 7725 South Africa

I am a Christian who has spent the last twelve years working as a
missionary in the war zones of Southern Africa. I have ministered to
soldiers,guerrillas and terrorists on all sides of the wars in Angola, South
West Africa/Nambia, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique and South Africa. I have
witnessed the persecution of the church by Marxist regimes, atrocities by
terrorists and I have see the results of war, counseling both the victims
and the combatants.

As a theological student, I tackled the controversial subject of war and
the Christian - from both sides. I have been both a convinced pacifist and
an active soldier. I have also sought, as a missionary, to apply the
teachings of the Bible to the realities around me. I have walked amongst
the unburied corpses of the killing fields of Mozambique and I've cradled
in my hands the dead and dying. I've walked through devastated towns in
Angola, where not a living being remained - only wrecked houses,
decomposing corpses and revolutionary slogans.

As a missionary, I've ridden through an ambush on my motorbike scrambler,
preached under mortar fire, witnessed at ambush sites, shown Christian
films to terrorists, been arrested and imprisoned, been led handcuffed and
blindfolded through the streets of Livingstone and Luska, escorted to
prison in Maputo in a Soviet Mi 8 Hip helicopter and come under fire on
many occasions.

Most of all, as a Bible reading, Bible-believing Christian I have spent
days, nights, weeks, months and years agonizing, praying and studying over
this subject of War and the Christian.

What is the Christian response to war?

Should a Christian be involved in the active military defense of his
country?

Is it ever permissible to take the life of another?

Is pacifism the answer to violence?

THE CHANGING FACE OF WARFARE


There was a time in warfare when the men at arms fought the opposing army
on a pre-arranged battlefield. Conflicts between nations were settled by
soldiers on the field of battle - and civilians, especially women and
children, were kept out of the firing line.

For centuries a code of honor precluded the endangering of innocent lives.
Soldiers fought openly - in uniform - against armed and uniformed foes.
Non-combatants were respected. Women and children were protected.

At times conflicts were limited to two opposing champions - such as David
and Goliath - deciding the fate of their nations in honourable hand to hand
combat. Their respective armies were bound to respect the outcome of such
duels. In the Middle Ages in Europe such practices became commonplace with
knights fighting for their cause and country according to a set code of
conduct.

In modern times, however, warfare has deteriorated dramatically. More and
more civilians have been caught in the crossfire as mobile total warfare
has devastated whole towns and villages.

This century began with scorched earth tactics and concentration camps
during the Anglo-Boer war. The frustrated British army resorted to burning
down the Boer farm homes, the destruction of their crops and the detaining
of the Boer women and children in concentration camps. This marked a new
low in battlefield standards. Unable to win by conventional warfare the
British Empire resorted to what was in effect terrorism. They targeted the
civilian homes and the women and children who, until then, had been
respected and protected.

During the Second World War, whole cities were targeted for mass bombings.
A thousand bomber aircraft would fill the skies and rain death and
destruction upon the cities of Europe. Instead of targeting legitimate
military targets at he front, these aircraft were used to massacre hundreds
of thousands of women and children at home.

Since that terrible war, the face of battle has changed. Now civilians are
no longer isolated from the cruel effects of war. No longer are civilians
merely endangered by the crossfire of conflict. Now women and children seem
to be the main targets of the enemy.

Those who place landmines in dirt roads know that they have more chance of
killing unarmed civilians than anyone else. By placing bombs in restaurants
and shopping centers terrorists are targeting our wives and our children.
Those cowards who throw petrol bombs or handgrenades into homes at night
are wanting to murder the innocent. And now we even see terrorists bursting
into church services and murdering Christians while they worship God. Such
people are not only enemies of society, they are enemies of God.

To such people God's Word declares:

"Surely God will crush the heads of His enemies, the skulls of those who go
in their sins." Psalm 68:21

To us the Bible commands:

"Do not be afraid...remember the Lord who is great and awesome, and fight
for your brothers, your sons and your daughters, your wives and your
homes."Nehemiah 4:14

THE PACIFIST POSITION Pacifists claim that 

[CTRL] QEN 10/1/99

1999-10-01 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-

Today's Lesson from The True Believer

by Eric Hoffer


Slaves are poor; yet where slavery is widespread and long-established,
there is little likelihood for the rise of a mass movement. The absolute
equality among the slaves, and the intimate communal life in slave
quarters, preclude individual frustration. In a society with an
institution of slavery the troublemakers are the newly enslaved and the
freed slaves. In the case of the latter it is the burden of freedom
which is at the root of their discontent.

Freedom aggravates at least as much as it alleviates frustration.
Freedom of choice places the whole blame of failure on the shoulders of
the individual. And as freedom encourages a multiplicity of attempts, it
unavoidably multiplies failure and frustration. Freedom alleviates
frustration by making available the palliatives of action, movement,
change and protest.

Unless a man has the talents to make something of himself, freedom is an
irksome burden. Of what avail is freedom to choose if the self be
ineffectual? We join a mass movement to escape individual
responsibility, or, in the words of the ardent young Nazi, "to be free
from freedom." It was not sheer hypocrisy when the rank-and-file Nazis
declared themselves not guilty of all the enormities they had committed.
They considered themselves cheated and maligned when made to shoulder
responsibility for obeying orders. Had they not joined the Nazi movement
in order to be free from responsibility?
=

Nuclear Accidents

Japan's Reactor Said to be Under Control

Ummm, maybe you should take a shower anyway.


Japan early today appeared to have brought its nuclear crisis under
control, after halting the accidental chain reaction at a uranium
processing plant near Tokyo.
In the most serious nuclear accident in the country's history, 27 people
were taken to hospital, three of them seriously ill, as radiation leaked
from the plant.
Radiation around the plant near Tokaimura, 140km north-east of the
capital, was reported to be up to 20,000 times normal levels during the
night, but later fell sharply.
Residents within a 10km radius - about 313,000 people - were told to
stay in their homes. Those living within a 350-metre radius of the plant
were evacuated.
A 3km radius was closed to traffic, and people caught in the light
drizzle falling in the area were told to shower immediately as the rain
could be radioactive.
The Vienna-based International Atomic Agency said the leak appeared
extremely serious. The apparent end to the crisis came after an
emergency night-time operation, in which employees went into the plant
to remove cooling water, which was helping to feed the nuclear reaction.
Earlier reports had suggested the attempt was only partially successful
because the workers - employees of JCO, a subsidiary of Sumitomo Metal
Mining - had been able to spend only minutes at a time inside the
building to keep down their exposure to radiation.
The accident occurred at a JCO testing facility at 10.35am yesterday.
JCO officials said an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction seemed to have
occurred when workers mixed 16kg of uranium oxide - instead of the
normal 2.4kg - with nitrate solution and transferred it to a
precipitation tank. Experts subsequently worked to remove the nitrate
water from the cooling equipment placed around the tank to suppress
further nuclear fission reactions.
The accident is a blow to the already tarnished reputation of Japan's
nuclear industry, which supplies about a third of all Japanese
electricity needs.
The government at one stage asked US forces stationed in Japan for
assistance. Japan's Defence Agency said the Americans initially
declined, explaining they did not have equipment to deal with such an
accident. But President Bill Clinton later said the US would co-operate
with the Japanese authorities.
Bill Richardson, US energy secretary, said the US and Russia had formed
a team of experts to assist.
As the crisis mounted yesterday Keizo Obuchi, the prime minister, set up
an emergency taskforce and called off a cabinet reshuffle scheduled for
today. He said: "This is an intense situation in which there is a
concern over the continued effects of radiation. We must be certain to
prioritise the safety of residents."
Last night Hiromu Nonaka, chief cabinet secretary, warned: "There are
fears that the effects of the radiation leak are continuing."
The nuclear power sector has been plagued by accidents in recent years.
Greenpeace, the environmental group, yesterday called for the country's
nuclear facilities to be closed.


The Financial Times, October 1, 1999


Organized Crime

Globestar Close to FBI Pact on Wiretaps

Big Brother FCC connives with the FBI

A satellite phone firm is close to an agreement with federal law
enforcement 

[CTRL] Fwd: Goddard--Waco Bomb Claim Retracted

1999-10-01 Thread Kris Millegan





Subject:
 Bomb Claim Retracted
Date:
 Fri, 01 Oct 1999 15:02:55 -0400
   From:
 Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What we can know for a fact about the Waco
case is that the FLIR shows gunshots into
the rear of the Center. This is not even
a matter of question and they are not sun-
light reflections, due the rapid puling of
the flashes, the nature of FLIR, and the
fact that even if FLIR could see sunlight
reflections, the sun was out of alignment:
http://rolandresearch.com/SRGv1/B9-Report.htm

However, I think I jumped the gun on the bomb
theory, which, as I noted, I did not initiate.
Considering the gravity of the claim and my
subsequent serious doubts, I feel I need to
taken down my webpage. I believe that several
central features of that theory may have other
explanations and the location of the concrete
room in my initial graphic may be inaccurate.
The circular hole is extremely odd and it's
clearly indicative of a blast, however:

1) There was intense fire inside the room,
even after the fire, it got so hot inside
that, according to Gordon Novel, glass was
melted. Video taken by Ken Fawcett, shown
to me a few years ago by Carol Valentine,
showed fire raging out of the doorway some-
time after the whole Center had burned down.
It occurs to me that if a hole had been
made by some means, the downward bending
of the rebar could be a result of the rebar
starting to melt downward. This of course
does not explain how there is a circular
hole in the roof, but I now understand that
the Davidians may have had some explosives,
of course it may also have been the government.

2) I believe that I misplaced the concrete
room on my lead graphic. It is not easy to
estimate the location of something where it
is not seen by judging from other images. I
worked hard but still feel short I believe.
Ideally, a 3D program should be used. The
difference though slight is significant
because there was a big propane tank behind
the concrete room which may have vented off
its contents. Here's the raw fireball photo:
http://kreative.net/carolmoore/4-19-93-5.jpg

3) Gordon Novel has photographs of the tank
that show that it is undamaged, and also
has photographs apparently doctored by the
FBI showing it ripped open. However, a lawyer
on the legal team informed me that a small
cap was missing from the tank in the photos
that prove it was not ripped open. Yesterday
I learned that such tanks, when overheated,
do not explode, instead a safety value pops
off and a jet of gas shoots out of an escape
valve. This could easy explain both the
fireball and why the tank was not ruptured.

4) The damage to the ceiling resulting in
the falling down of its interior surface
could be the result of extreme heat.

5) The downward smashed freezer is more likely
a result of its buckling due to extreme heat.
Notice that the panels have rippling damage,
and with melted glass on the inside too, the
metal was near melt down and could begin to
buckle. Furthermore, look at the pushed down
upper panel:

http://www.monumental.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/fig/d_fig13.jpg

It is in the far corner, but the hole in
the ceiling is over the center of the room:

http://www.monumental.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/fig/d_fig02.jpg

The freezer is in the corner furthest from the
hole. I'm persuaded that the arrow of the force
vectors coming through the hole would probably
not strike at the necessary angle to push the
top of the freezer down. The physicist I was
in touch with said: "Take your fist and hit
a covered empty shoebox on the top side
forcefully, and you will see the exact same
effect [as we see on the freezer]." But the
problem is that in that example, your fist
is directly overhead, but the hole is NOT!

6) Notice the circular array of holes on the
forward panel of the freezer. Very odd! The
physicist I was in touch with, who request
anonymity and who initiated contact with me,
said that the oval shape of those holes
"proves" that they came from a angle above.
However, I just realize after tracing the
holes the obviously fact that they are oval
ONLY due to our angle of view, if we change
our angle of view, they would be circles,
and therefore the "proof" of being propelled
from above vanishes... proof = poof. That
circular array of holes is very odd, and I
don't mean to say a bomb did not make them,
but I don't think they came from the hole,
and that assumption carried a lot of the
weight of the case that a lethal blast
ripped through a hole in the ceiling.

Needless to say I'm very embarrassed to have
declared proof of a bomb. Almost everyone who
read my webpage agreed with me, attesting to
the immediate appearance of such proof. It
is shocking to see the interior of that room.
It's very odd to have a circular hole on top.
Having someone claiming to be a physicist with
obvious physics background assuring me we have
proof, along with the analysis of munitions
expert General Partin, plus the obvious evidence
of apparent 

[CTRL] Gov. Jesse Ventura pushing hemp

1999-10-01 Thread David Crockett Williams

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Subject: Gov. Ventura seeks cooperation from resistant DEA
Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 11:00 AM

THE STAR TRIBUNE
Minneapolis, Minnesota
September 30, 1999

State Plans for hemp farming

Ventura seeks cooperation from resistant DEA

By Conrad deFiebre

Minnesota is moving ahead with efforts to allow its farmers to
grow industrial hemp, a close cousin of marijuana that proponents say
could offer an alternative crop with high potential.
 Gov. Jesse Ventura is expected to write to federal drug
authorities today outlining his plan for implementing pro-hemp state
legislation enacted last spring.
 His plan, however, calls for cooperation from the U.S. Drug
Enforcement Administration (DEA), which wields full authority over
controlled substances and has strongly opposed reviving the U.S. hemp
industry.
 Meanwhile, fierce debate continues over whether hemp offers
enough commercial potential to justify the costly security controls
likely to be imposed on its cultivation.
 Controls are in store because DEA officials and hemp enthusiast
agree on one thing: Food- and-fiber-producing hemp and smokable
marijuana are nearly indistinguishable varieties of the same Cannabis
plant, differing only in their content of the psychoactive ingredient
tetrahyrocannabinol (THC).
 Ventura’s letter is expected to propose that would-be hemp
farmers apply for permits through the state Board of Pharmacy and the
DEA.  But the rules for commercial hemp cultivation in Minnesota would
be set by the DEA, which so far has had one simple rule: Don’t do it.
 “The policy has not been changed,” Tom McCormick, head of the
DEA’s Minneapolis office, said Wednesday.  “But we are seriously
looking at it right now.  The decision will be coming out of
Washington.”  It could come in less than a year, he said.
 The government’s review has been accelerated by growing interest
in hemp production.  Pro-hemp laws were enacted this year in
Minnesota, Hawaii, Nebraska and North Dakota.  North Dakota, in fact,
is farther along the hemp trail than Minnesota, having reclassified
hemp as an oilseed crop.  It also has enacted provisions for growing
and processing hemp.
 But even if the DEA allows hemp crops, it’s unclear how
profitable they may be.  Some critics raise specters of the Jerusalem
artichoke scam that ravaged rural Minnesota in the 1980’s.
 “There may well be zero market for this stuff,” said Minnesota
Public Safety Commissioner Charlie Weaver, who has consulted with
state trade and agriculture officials to shape Ventura’s hemp policy.
“But we have an obligation to be helpful to those folks who are
interested.”
 Hemp seeds produce an oil that can be used to make tofu, butter,
cheese, salad oils and other foods.  Hemp fiber can be used to make
clothing, ropes, paper, particle-board products and more.
 But even “Hemp John” Birrenbach of St. Paul, an avowed marijuana
advocate, said, “There are marketing and processing problems.”
 In addition, mandatory security measures probably would cut
deeply into producers’ profits.
 McCormick said the DEA likely will require farmers to post bonds
of up to $1,000 an acre to pay for government seizure and burning of
hemp that crosses a THC threshold of about 0.3 percent.  THC levels of
0.5 percent or greater are considered potent, he said.  Hemp farmers
also probably would have to pay license fees for criminal background
checks and government inspections, he added.



Subject: GOV. VENTURA ANNOUNCES HEMP SEMINAR
Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:17 AM

STATE OF MINNESOTA
OFFICE OF GOVERNOR JESSE VENTURA
130 Capitol, 75 Constitution Avenue
Saint Paul, Minneapolis

For immediate release:
September 30, 1999


GOVERNOR JESSE VENTURA ANNOUNCES HEMP SEMINAR


Contact John Wodele: (651) 296-0001

(St. Paul, MN) – Governor Ventura today announced that an
informational seminar will be held on November 19, 1999, to reach
individual farmers how to apply for a permit to grow industrial hemp.
The time and venue of the seminar will be announced in the next two
weeks.

The informational seminar is in response to legislation passed by the
1999 Minnesota Legislature requiring the state to apply by September
30 for a federal permit to grow industrial hemp. The Drug Enforcement
Agency (DEA) recently informed Minnesota officials that a state cannot
apply for a general blanket permit. Rather, individual farmers must
apply directly to the DEA and the Minnesota Board of Pharmacy for a
permit to grow experimental plots of industrial hemp.

Minnesota Agriculture Commissioners Gene Hugoson and Trade and
Economic Development Commissioner Jerry Carlson will co-host the
November 19 seminar, giving farmers tips on how to apply for the
federal and state permits they will need to grow experimental plots.
They will also discuss any special conditions DEA has set for lawful
cultivation of the crop.

The Governor also sent a letter to President Clinton today, in which
he 

Re: [CTRL] The Law is what killed JUSTICE

1999-10-01 Thread Das GOAT

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Hear, hear!   Lysander Spooner knew his stuff.

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[CTRL] US DEA Swoops Down On Birdseed ...

1999-10-01 Thread Steve Wingate

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   DETROIT, Michigan, September 30, 1999 (ENS) - The U.S. Drug
   Enforcement Administration (DEA) has seized a tractor trailer of
   sterilized Canadian hemp seed on its way to a large U.S. company that
   has been selling hemp birdseed blends legally for years.

   Following the August 9 seizure, U.S. Customs and the DEA demanded that
   Kenex, Canada's largest producer and processor of industrial hemp
   products, recall previous shipments of other hemp products such as
   oil, granola bars, horse bedding and animal feed. Kenex is based in
   Paincourt, Ontario, 60 miles from Detroit.

   U.S. Customs is threatening nearly $500,000 in fines against Kenex if
   the recalled products are not redelivered to Detroit Customs in the
   next few days. These fines are in addition to the fines and possible
   criminal charges that may be laid in relation to the bird seed load
   itself. A 30 day extension request to clarify the situation was denied
   by U.S. Customs.

   The agencies have taken these actions even though all of the products
   are exempt under the U.S. Controlled Substances Act, and many have
   been sold in the United States for 60 years. There has never a time
   when sterilized hemp seed or oil or meal was illegal.

   The DEA, after repeated requests, refuses to provide Kenex with any
   legal basis for the confiscation.

   Kenex's president, Jean Laprise says, "Kenex, along with many other
   U.S. companies are suffering irreparable damage due to the illegal
   actions taken by the DEA and U.S. Customs. It seems the DEA could be
   spending the U.S. taxpayer's drug war money in better ways than
   chasing after bird seed and horse bedding."

   Laprise says, "All the proper documentation has been supplied to
   Customs in the past in accordance with our custom broker's
   instructions. Kenex has always acted in good faith and has never
   violated any U.S. laws. Our legal counsel has advised us that the DEA
   and U.S. Customs are acting in clear violation of U.S. laws as well as
   NAFTA."

   Industrial hemp has no drug qualities and is grown in 32 countries
   including Canada, France, Germany, and England. The North American
   Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), mentions hemp as a strategic commodity.
   Currently, French and German hempseed products are still entering the
   United States under the same tariff code without problems.

   Kenex is in the process of preparing the paperwork to file a complaint
   under the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

   Hemp foods are typically made from sterilized seed like that seized
   from Kenex. It is impossible for the seed to ever contain any tetra
   hydro cannabinol (THC), the psychoactive component in marijuana, which
   is produced in the flowering tops of the female Cannabis Sativa L.
   plant. The THC content in the fiber, leaf or flower of the industrial
   hemp plant is less than one percent. By contrast, the THC content of
   the Cannabis Sativa bred for marijuana production is around 10
   percent.

   Kenex's western U.S. broker and importer of hempseed products is
   Nutiva, a Sebastopol, California based company. Nutiva has over 700
   natural food stores, manufacturers and restaurants utilizing hempseed.

   Nutiva's hempseed bar, made with sunflower, hemp, flax and pumpkin
   seeds and honey, has just surpassed 100,000 units sales, making it the
   top selling hemp food in the U.S. John Roulac, president and founder
   of Nutiva, states, "People love the nutty, chewy taste of our hempseed
   bars. Hempseed is rich in protein, vitamin E and the heart healthy
   Omega 3 are an added bonus."

   The current seizures, recalls and summons are in effect shutting off
   the supply of hempseeds for this growing market. If the markets are
   shut down in the U.S., American farmers future markets for hemp
   products will be curtailed by their own federal government, Roulac
   says.

   Roulac, a board member of the North American Industrial Hemp Council
   and who has also written three books on industrial hemp, finds it
   ironic that the federal government is serving him a summons for
   "Marjiuana related products."

   Industrial hemp is not marijuana, he emphasizes. "If you smoke it you
   get a headache. If you smoke more you get a bigger headache."

   The DEA is required by law to report to Congress each year a list of
   drug producing nations and Canada is not on the list. "The DEA is
   either lying to Congress or admitting industrial hemp is not a drug
   crop," Roulac says.

   One of Nutiva's customers is Coup Restaurant in New York City. Coup's
   executive chef Kevin Roth, said, "Our hempseed 

Re: [CTRL] From Grandfather's Chair, 1840

1999-10-01 Thread Das GOAT

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Somebody please post MY favorite Hawthorne story, "Young Goodman Brown" ...

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[CTRL] [Fwd: [prj] Saving the Earth]

1999-10-01 Thread Nicola Molloy

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"Mark A. Smith" wrote:

 http://www.radioliberty.com/kjos2.htm

   
   SAVING THE EARTH

Excerpts from Brave New Schools by Berit Kjos

  * * * * * *
 "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that
 pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the
 like would fit the bill All these dangers are caused by human
 intervention... The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.1 Club of Rome (an
 influential group of globalist leaders)

  * * * * * *
 In the weeks surrounding Earth Day (April 22, Lenin's birthday), students
 from coast to coast celebrate their spiritual connection to Mother Earth,
 chant prayers to the Great Spirit, and imagine politically correct answers
 to the unequal distribution of the world's resources. Using computers that
 "simulate the real world," they recreate environmental disasters and "solve"
 global problems.

 These dubious lessons share a common aim-. to persuade students to reject
 Western culture and become advocates for new global beliefs and values While
 this agenda makes little sense to those who view America from a traditional
 perspective, it makes perfect sense to leaders seeking global laws that
 would govern land, people, education, and consumption.

 A lesson in Clean Sweep, an environmental curriculum published by the Iowa
 Department of Education, illustrates the bias behind environmental
 education. The class divides into two groups: first, the world's current
 population seated in a circle representing the earth; second, the "unborn"
 people of the world. Played like musical chairs, the game instructs the
 first group to gather natural resources whenever the music stops.

 Meanwhile, new children are "born", adding to the fast-growing "population"
 consuming the dwindling resources. Guess what happens. The world runs out of
 resources.

 Like most environmental classroom exercises, the game sounds logical but
 distorts reality. Designed to change attitudes, it ignores scientific facts,
 social statistics, and renewable resources.2 Yet, what it does is far more
 dangerous than what it omits: it gives children an alarming view of an
 imagined reality. They feel the exaggerated dangers. They agree to solve the
 problem.

 To make sure the children understand that America is the villain of the
 world, they discuss the main message: "The U.S.A. uses over 20% of the
 world's resources. . . How do the others feel toward the U.S.A. in this
 game?" Other questions prod the children toward these "right" conclusions:
 America's demand for resources deprives poorer nations of their equal share.
 Greedy nations must reduce consumption, block population growth, and make
 whatever sacrifices needed for common good and planetary healing.
 Genuine concern for the environment is needful, for ecological abuses do
 destroy farm land, sea life, forests, and other resources-especially outside
 the Western word. But since most environmental problems are local or
 regional, they fail to serve the political purposes of global leaders who
 want nothing less than global governance.

 Rousing whole nations to action, and inspiring a unified call for planetary
 management requires global disasters like ozone holes3 and rising ocean
 levels, not merely dying lakes and rivers. Globalist leaders know that well.

 "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that
 pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the
 like would fit the bill," declared members of the Club of Rome in a sweeping
 1991 report on global governance." All these dangers are caused by human
 intervention The real enemy, then, is humanity itself." 4

 Al Gore, who wrote a book to spread a similar message, said, "We must make
 rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for
 civilization."5 In Earth in the Balance, he calls for a "worldwide education
 program" and a "panreligious perspective" based on "the wisdom distilled by
 all faiths."6

 Gore knows that common beliefs and values based on idealized (not factual)
 models of earth-centered cultures are vital to planetary oneness. Just as
 tribes, not individuals, owned the land and shared common values, so
 government must control land, populations, and beliefs in the next decade. A
 mythical "common good" must inspire the new policies.7

 "We'd like to see the world a better place... to get some broad-based
 support, to capture the public's imagination," said Stanford University
 environmentalist Stephen Schneider. "That, of course, entails getting loads
 of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified,
 dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts we might have...
 Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Globalist Leaders Call for 90% Reduction in Human Population! READ THIS!!]

1999-10-01 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

"NewsHawk Inc." wrote:

 10.1.99
 Globalist Leaders Call for "90% Reduction" in Human Population!
 READ THIS!!

 The following report was sent to us by Byron Weeks.

 Incredible!! Read for yourself the naked, unvarnished WORD-FOR-WORD
 truth about what the globalist power-mongers plan to do to the human
 population of Earth! FROM THEIR OWN MOUTHS!

 The grotesque, putrid hypocrisy issuing from the mouths of the murderous
 fascist swine about the need for humanity to reign in their
 "materialistic" demands--for things like jobs to provide a meal on the
 table to feed their families--is absolutely incredible; as they sit
 there in palatial splendor, ingesting the finest, most expensive food
 and drink while listening to the horrid, inhuman drivel issue from the
 mouths of the members addressing the conclave. The sponsor of this
 hideous and ostentatious display? The GORBACHEV FOUNDATION.

 You've got to read it to believe it.

 Really--No ONE could POSSIBLY make this s--t up: it's just to repulsive.

 NewsHawk Inc.
 - - - - - - - - -
 From the distinguished journalist, William Jasper, comes this report of
 his coverage of Gorbachev's WORLD FORUM in 1996. You will see the kind
 of thinking that the ELITES are manifesting in relative privacy.

 This is the New World Order crowd, the people behind Bill Clinton and
 Hillary Can you understand that world depopulation to 10 % of what
 it is now IS part of the Globalist agenda? In Heaven's name, please
 realize what we are up against! Why does Clinton still have an approval
 rating of 60 % of the voters??
 Byron Weeks

 - - - - - - - - -

 From: Dave Kuehne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Byron Weeks
 STATE OF THE WORLD FORUM

 Global Gorby,  by William F. Jasper

 . . . an event of another sort (and of arguably much greater consequence)
 was getting under way with considerably less attention: "The State of the
 World Forum," a planetary confabulation sponsored by the Gorbachev
 Foundation. Held atop the city's famed Nob Hill at the luxurious Fairmont
 Hotel, the forum brought together a glittering constellation of global
 notables representing the epitome of worldly power, prestige, fame, wealth,
 and influence: presidents, princes, potentates, philanthropists, poets,
 philosophers, and poohbahs. (They meet again this year, 1998---B Weeks)

 Who's Who: "The weighty seriousness and ambitious reach of the conference
 indicated by the title of the event -- "Toward a New Civilization: Launching
 a Global Initiative" -- were underscored by the list of attendees, a
 veritable Who's Who of Wall Street, the Trilateral Commission, the World
 Economic Forum, the Aspen Institute, the Council on Foreign Relations, the
 Club of Rome, the Bilderbergers, the Politburo, the Commission on Global
 Governance, the World Future Society, and other Insider bastions of power.

 Among the 400-plus eminent personages from 50 countries who flocked to the
 five-day affair (September 27th-October 1st) were former Secretaries of
 State James Baker and George Shultz (both co-chairs of the forum), former
 President George Bush, former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher,
 President Askar Akaev of Kyrgystan, former President Oscar Arias of Costa
 Rica, Prime Minister Tansu Ciller of Turkey, Czech Republic President Vaclav
 Havel, former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, and South African Vice
 President Thabo Mbeki.

 Additional participants included: Worldwatch President Lester Brown; New Age
 gurus Fritjof Capra, Jeremy Rifkin, Willis Harman, Deepak Chopra, Robert
 Muller, and Matthew Fox; Marxist poetess Rigoberta Menchu; Earth Council
 president and billionaire eco-warrior Maurice Strong;

  Microsoft wizard Bill Gates; media mogul Rupert Murdoch; futurists
 Alvin Toffler and John Naisbitt; Senator George Mitchell; Archer Daniels
 Midland CEO Dwayne Andreas; computer tycoon David Packard; Esalen
 founder Michael Murphy; motivation superstar Tony Robbins; Men's
 Wearhouse CEO George Zimmer;

 chimpanzee expert Jane
 Goodall -- not to mention Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carl Sagan, John Denver,
 Shirley MacLaine, Dennis Weaver, Ted Turner, Jane Fonda, Theodore Hesburgh,
 Timothy Wirth, Max Kampleman, Milton Friedman, Randall Forsberg, Saul
 Mendlovitz, and Alan Cranston.

 Overseeing the entirety of this summit of the anointed was, of course,
 Mikhail Gorbachev himself. The purpose of the convocation, he proclaimed,
 was to "launch a multi-year process, culminating in the year 2000, to
 articulate the fundamental [world] priorities, values, and actions necessary
 to constructively shape our common future." And who better to kick off an
 ostentatious extravaganza of that sort than global media titan and former
 "Humanist of the Year" Ted Turner. Identifying himself as a "great student
 of history" and a long-time friend of Gorbachev, Turner praised the
 "ex-Communist" and former dictator for ending the Cold War, which he
 acclaimed as "the greatest accomplishment in the history 

Re: [CTRL] FW: RE: FYI - PLEASE READ 9-30-99

1999-10-01 Thread Gavin Phillips

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Interesting. Will pass it along. Gavin.

 FYI-Not to scare!
 -
 Forwarded Message:
 Subj:FYI
 Date:   09/29/1999 10:59:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kathleen Barton)
 Reply-to:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Liz Westergreen)

 Subject: Unconfirmed InfoFYI
 
 
   From: "David L. Miner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   I met a man last night that used to go to my church.  Brandon moved
 last
   year before I started attending.  But several people, including the
   pastor, say that Brandon is totally honest and does not "go off half

   cocked."
  
   Brandon told me that his wife received a call from her cousin last
 week.
   The cousin lives in Ohio and her husband is a truck driver for
 Wal-Mart.
   It seems he was driving a load early last week and stopped at a
 border
   weigh station.  The inspector wanted to know what was in the load,
 and
   the driver indicated he did not know. He merely picked up the
 trailer
   and was transporting it to another state.
  
   The inspector opened the trailer and saw hundreds of uniform boxes.
 He
   asked what was in the boxes and the driver again stated that he
 didn't
   know.  So the inspector opened a box.
  
   In the box were about a hundred large (about 2'x3') plastic signs
 that
   stated: "This City Under Martial Law" in bright colors.  It said
   something about the fed govt and had what looked like a legal
 reference
   (the driver claims to know nothing about legal issues, but he
 thought it
   was a reference to a law or an Executive Order or something).
  
   There were several hundred boxes of these signs.  The driver doesn't

   know what Wal-Mart has to do with the signs.  But he did state that
   Wal-Mart sometimes hires out space on their trucks if space is
   available.  I might suggest that maybe the govt was using Wal-Mart
   trucks to keep a low profile.
  
   Anyway, the info came to me by way of a long route. But the sources
 are
   "innocent bystanders" with no history of right-wing reactionary
   politics.  The driver was married to a woman who was related to
   Brandon's wife.  He swears the info is accurate and that he spoke
 with
   the driver himself to confirm what was passed between the respective

   wives.  The driver claims there were hundreds of boxes, each one
 with at
   least a hundred large signs declaring martial law.
  
   I thought this was worth passing along.  Especially since the fed
 govt
   is telling us (Wednesday issue of USA Today and today's press
 releases)
   that we have nothing to fear.
  
   Yours in freedom, at least a little while longer,
   Dave Miner
  

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Re: [CTRL] newspaper article - may be triggering for survivors

1999-10-01 Thread Smart News

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Below please find an article forwarded to me. I have permission to forward
this.
I apologize if some people have already seen this.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick







MASONIC BONE RITUAL SHOCKS ABORIGINES:
Freemasons give police human skulls for forensic testing

Aboriginal activist Clarrie Isaacs, who is a former member of the WA
Freemasons, says he is surprised and disappointed to discover Aboriginal
bones had been used in masonic secret rituals.

A skull and crossbones belonging to the Newman Masonic Lodge was identified
as Aboriginal, prompting Freemasons to surrender up to 60 such skulls to
police for forensic testing.

"I wouldn't like to see the use of human bones in any ritual," he said. "I
don't think it is a Christian sort of thing to  have bones hanging around."

Mr. Isaacs, who is a Muslim, said he was a member of the Concorde Lodge in
Stirling Highway for about three years, but left in 1988.  "I somehow felt
it didn't really fit my style," he said. "It was a lot of big businessmen
and tons of police."

"Some of them were doing good things -- not all of them were police.
I was just working for the Water Authority, I couldn't keep up with all
their donations. I don't think they objected to me, maybe it was a novelty
to say they had the only Aboriginal in the lodge."

Despite entering the third masonic degree and attaining the title of Master
Mason, Mr. Isaacs had never seen a set of bones used for any ceremonial
ritual. He said he may not have been eligible to see them.  "As you join
among men and want to be their equal, you would hope they don't have such
dastardly things going on," he said.

Mr. Isaacs said he became fed up with the amount of time masons spent
memorising things and reading them out. "I thought, 'How am I ever going to
apply this stuff'. It was a bit like nonsense," he said.

Yesterday, Coroner's Court manager Glenn Spivey said police had handed in a
few skulls for testing in recent weeks. Forensic tests normally took up to
10 days, but there could be a delay if lots came at once.

Other Aboriginal spokesmen have reacted strongly to the news. The Perth
Noongar Regional Council chairman, the Rev. Cedric Jacobs, said he was
devastated to think the bones of any human had been used in such a manner
and believed the Masons should be prosecuted. He said the matter would be
raised at a council meeting next month.

But Manguri Aboriginal Corporation director Dean Collard said he saw
practical difficulties with any move to prosecute.  "I don't think it can
be done," he said. "Just in a practical sense who do you prosecute?"  He
applauded the Masons' decision to hand other skulls in for forensic
examination. He said it showed respect for Aboriginal beliefs.

~~o~
FREEMASONS HAND OVER 60 SKULLS FOR POLICE TESTS
The West Australian (Perthy) July 22, 1999 page 1
by Anne Buggins

WA Freemasons could be forced to reveal details of their secret ceremonies
after a skull and crossbones belonging to the Newman Lodge were identified
as Aboriginal.  The discovery has prompted Freemasons to surrender up to 60
such skulls for forensic testing and to begin using photographic
transparencies instead of human remains in rituals.

Aboriginal elder Ken Colbung, who likened Freemason rituals to those of a
witches' coven, wants the masons to be prosecuted.  "It makes your blood
run cold really," he said yesterday. "I am not against them using skeletal
remains as long as they have got permission, but when they become grave
robbers we would tend to think they shouldn't be doing that."

But South Hedland DetSgt. Ron Clarke said prosecution was not an issue. The
masons had not contravened a section of the Criminal Code which dealt with
"misconduct with regard to a corpse."

Irene Stainton, assistant director of Aboriginal heritage and culture at
the Aboriginal Affairs Department, said it was "hugely significant" to all
Aboriginal people that human remains be returned to a person's country or
place of origin.  But pathologists could confirm only the remains were
those of an Aboriginal man, aged 30 to 35.
(continued on page 2)

BONES POINT TO MASONIC RITES  page 2
The West Australian (Perth) July 22, 1999

The masonic ritual came to light in February when three boys, aged six and
seven, took a box containing the bones from an unlocked storeroom of the
Newman Masonic Lodge. After ruling out any suspicious circumstances, South
Hedland detectives sent the bones to Perth for forensic testing.  They were
found to be Aboriginal, placed in the custody of the Aboriginal affairs
Department, and are now stored temporarily at the WA Museum.

Peter Bloor, grand secretary of the Grand Lodge of WA Freemasons, yesterday
insisted the bones, covered with a cement-like substance and some yellow
paint and kept in a box equipped with an electric light, were nothing more
than a simple teaching aid.

"We use them as teaching aids in much the same way as a 

[CTRL] Fw: What's New for Oct 01, 1999

1999-10-01 Thread CobolMage

 -Caveat Lector-

WHAT'S NEW   Robert L. Park   Friday, 1 Oct 99   Washington, DC

1. MISTAKE ONE: NASA FLUNKS METRIC CONVERSION.  Converting from
one system of units to another has been the downfall of countless
students of science.  Now we learn that confusion over units also
spelled doom for the Mars Climate Orbiter.  NASA is scurrying to
figure out how the error could have gone undetected, but the most
shocking revelation is that the agency that has come to symbolize
high-technology has not fully converted to metric.  A spokesman
at NIST seemed unconcerned by the glacial progress of the metric
conversion initiative.  Metrification, he explained, will come
gradually with usage as the younger generation is exposed to it.

2. MISTAKE TWO: JAPANESE WORKERS ADD TOO MUCH URANIUM.  This is
reported to be the world's 60th criticality accident since 1945.
The problem occurred at a uranium processing plant when too much
uranium was added to a mixing tank.  The off-site risk appears to
be small, but the incident reawakens public concern just as there
were signs that the moribund nuclear power industry in the US
might still have a pulse.  It may be significant that in all the
news stories about the accident, the amount of uranium involved
was given in pounds rather than kilograms.

3. MISTAKE THREE: DEMOCRATS THREATEN TO LAUNCH BIG PUSH ON CTBT.
Yesterday, Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) called their bluff,
scheduling an Oct. 8 vote on the test ban treaty, without benefit
of hearings and after only ten hours of debate.  It was seen as a
test of party loyalty, and influential Sen. John Warner (R-VA),
who was believed to be leaning toward the treaty, announced that
he now planned to vote against it.  Under those circumstances it
would be unlikely that the treaty would get the needed 67 votes.
That set off a flurry of negotiating.  The latest word is that
there is an agreement to put off the vote until Oct. 18.

4. MISTAKE FOUR: WHAT'S NEW GOOFS IN FREE ELECTRICITY STORY.  We
apologize to the Wall Street Journal.  WN reported that the WSJ
had carried a full-page ad on Sep 17 for a demonstration of free-
electricity (WN 24 Sept 99).  Wrong!  The ad was actually carried
by USA Today, although the WSJ carried such an ad two years ago
(WN 18 Jul 97). Dennis Lee, CEO of Better World Technologies, has
now launched his 45 city tour.  At a meeting in Columbus, Ohio
Lee urged people to sign up to get a free electricity machine
installed in their homes and get disconnected from the grid
before the Y2K crisis.  He explained that the government's plan
is to deliberately create a crisis so "they can declare martial
law and take your guns away."  He said their ad had gotten the
attention of "just about every attorney general in the country."
He wouldn't actually demonstrate the free electricity technology.
"If you show a free electricity machine," he explained, "they
will shut you down."  He said he did that in 1988 and they put
him jail. "I'm doing this for one reason only--God said 'do it.'"

THE AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY (Note: Opinions are the author's
and are not necessarily shared by the APS, but they should be.)

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[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Friday, October 1, 1999

1999-10-01 Thread CobolMage

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from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS
subject: AANEWS for October 1, 1999

   A M E R I C A N   A T H E I S T S
#646 ~~~ 10/1/99
 http://www.atheists.org
  ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/
 http://www.americanatheist.org

---
  A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS
"Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights
 And The Separation Of State and Church"
---

   In This Issue...
   * Ventura: Smack down for honest opinions?
   * Atheists to picket Promise Keepers tomorrow in Jersey
   * GOP candidates court Christian Coalition
   * American Atheist Magazine poll -- art, public funding and blasphemy
   * Big Apple Atheists
   * Resources
   * About this list...

   VENTURA TAKES FLAK, EXPANDS ON RELIGION REMARKS

It is shaping up to be the fight of Jesse Ventura's political and
career, and a case where honesty might not be the best policy -- for
some.

Minnesota Gov.  Jesse Ventura spent most of yesterday and today in
crisis mode, as aides tried to defuse the growing controversy over the
remarks the colorful Reform Party figure made in an interview with
Playboy Magazine.  Covering a wide range of provocative topics,
Ventura held forth on issues such as drug legalization, prostitution,
and the role of religion in human culture.  He told Playboy that that
in his opinion, organized religion was "a sham and a crutch for the
weak minded.  Other opinions reinforced what Ventura had written in
his biography, "I Ain't Got Time to Bleed," where he acknowledge
smoking marijuana, engaging the services of a prostitute and drinking.

Now, Ventura is starting to pay a price for his forthrightness -- and
it may be high.

The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights took time out from
its campaign to close a controversial art exhibit in New York to blast
the free thinking governor, saying that he "has now proven himself to
be Jesse 'The Bigot' Ventura."  A League broadside added, "Liberty
shorn of its religious underpinnings is the real sham, as the Founders
and most students of freedom have long understood.  But according to
the erudite Mr. Ventura, they all got it wrong..."

"What Ventura is saying is that organized religion has an intrusive,
and therefore deleterious, effect on American society," continued the
League press release.  "To that end, it is only logical that he might
seek to check its influence.  This bears watching as that is the
position of an anti-religious bigot..."

Others took the colorful wrestler-turned-politician to task as well.
Reform Party Chairman Russell Verney told the Washington Post that he
was "disgusted and outraged" by the Ventura interview.  Only Minnesota
Party Chair Rick McCluhan opined that any judgments should wait until
people have read the alleged quotes in the context of the full
article.  The Playboy interview will arrive at news stands on Monday.

  In related developments:

* Ventura has reportedly written to religious leaders explaining his
remarks on faith.  The Post notes that he cites instances of
"so-called religious leaders zealously marketing their beliefs," by
inducing poor people to give "their last dollar for a baptism."

* According to the Dallas Morning News, Ventura attempted to "clarify"
his remarks on religion, and told Associated Press that "he doesn't
need it but doesn't condemn those who do, including his wife."  The
News gives an expanded version of Ventura's letter to religious
officials.  "I witnessed many instances of so-called religious leaders
zealously marketing their beliefs to people too uneducated to
comprehend what they were talking about and too poor to afford the
money they were being asked to hand over."

The Minneapolis Star Tribune quoted Ventura further: "While organized
religion has not been a major influence in my adult life, I respect
the beliefs and choices of others, including my close family members."
After criticizing religious groups "zealously marketing their
beliefs..."  Ventura added: "Yet there they are, handing over their
last dollar for a baptism that they were promised was essential.  And
there were the religious marketers accepting that last dollar.  I
would think the spirit of religion would put the needs of people and
families first and profit last."

* At a late afternoon press conference on Thursday, Ventura defended
his statements.  "I think all the religious leaders will forgive me
because I think that's what religion's about."  He added, "I haven't
started any wars throughout time.  Has religion?"

Ventura is finding himself in hot water over other issues that he
touched upon in the Playboy interview.  He called for legalization of
drugs, criticized religion for the current status of prostitution as
an illegal activity, and opined that the late President John Kennedy
was likely the victim of conspiracy because he intended to wind 

[CTRL] cop site, lotsa intelligence stuff on terrorists

1999-10-01 Thread Dave
Title: 



Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart

TERRORIST, TERRORISM, ANARCHY, HATE GROUPS ON THE 
WEB


  Anarchist Theory 
  FAQ Version 4.3, NEW VERSION, NEW ADDRESS 
  Perilous Times - 
  Terrorist page 
  Terrorism: 
  Past, Present, and Future 
  The Bomb-Grade Uranium Threat 

  JDL's Nazi 
  Alert 
  CDT's Counter-Terrorism 
  issues page 
  Anarchist 
  Links 
  Anarchy for 
  Anybody - Whenever people hear about anarchy, the first things that seem to 
  come to mind are images of chaos, mayhem, and violence. Nothing could be 
  further from the truth. 
  SPYLink 
  MILNET: Terrorism 
  Hate Groups - 
  Anti-Klan and Anti-Militia Page 
  COUNTERTERRORISM HOME PAGE 
  Beyond 
  the Bombing: Militias by State Anti-Defamation League 
  South Carolina 
  Civilian Militia 
  United States Militia 
  Terrorist 
  Groups Profiles 
  Terrorism 
  Links (Yahoo) 
  Militia 
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  Skinheads 
  - (Yahoo) 
  White 
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  Terrorism: What is it, and how is it 
  defined? 
  Terrorism research Center New Name 

  Covert Action 
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  Counter-Terrorism Page 

  Center for 
  Democracy and Technology's Counter-Terrorism issues page 
  Phrack terror 
  U.S. Department of State ANTI 
  TERRORISM and HEROES Homepage 
  The Big Book 
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  About the 
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  Anarchy 
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  Fist Newsletter - Anarchy FTP 
  Anarchy Resource Directory - has the most links 
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  ANARCHISTS in Quebec (mostly in 
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[CTRL] Walter J. Burien, Jr - Government hiding $Trillions$ by deceptive bookeeping in CAFR's - comprehensive annual financial reports

1999-10-01 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

QUIXOTE'S HORSE

TRILLION$ $TOLEN
Want it back?

By Wayne A. Coppin
01-01-99

A few decades ago, a friend and I were sitting around a university campus
and speculating on who was really pulling the world's strings from behind
the scenes. You will no doubt find such typical "bull session" discussions
going on today. Most are forgotten almost immediately. However, this one
prompted me to devote literally years of spare research time to it and
continues to this day.
Along the way I have stumbled across the infamous Bilderberger Group (and
others even less savory!), learned a great deal about international finance
and developed a network of sources who were much more talented and energetic
than I ever would be. I read Chomsky and learned to look at media reports of
current events with a jaded eye. I studied economic theory in hopes of
understanding the real meaning of Breton Woods. In short, I learned enough
to know that something was economically rotten... but try as I might, I
could never put my finger on WHERE all the money was going.
Here in Canada, a fellow named Mel Hurtig painted a picture of governments
playing a cynical game of patching small leaks in the front door while
BILLIONS of dollars were gushing out the back. I knew he was right. But it
was old news- I knew about the U.S. Fed. Reserve scam and the banks and
while their thefts have been astronomical, it still didn't account for
anywhere near all the money that should have been available. I KNEW
something was not adding up in the current models, but I was seeking
TRILLIONS of dollars and not merely billions. :-)
Recently, I stumbled on the answer to my decades long quest in the form of
an interview with Walter Burien. Like virtually everyone else who has heard
or read the truth, I was stunned! Burien pointed to the irrefutable proof
that literally trillions of dollars had been, and continues to be, stolen
from US citizens, hidden right under their noses, and there was a conspiracy
of silence that helped ensure that general public was none the wiser. For
the last LAST 6 MONTHS! Walter Burien has been circumventing the major media
blackout and blowing the lid off something called COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL
FINANCIAL REPORTS.
Simply put- CAFRs are the equivalent of the infamous double set of books...
kept by municipal, state and federal governments. That's right, folks. Your
own governments are stealing you blind and dutifully keeping a hidden set of
books that prove it. The public gets to see the books that show that most
governments are operating at or near fiscal bankruptcy. The insiders and the
CEOs of every major newspaper and television network get to see the REAL
books. Every year. And every year the public is told nothing; not a single
line of print in the national paper chains or as much as a single TV
soundbite. Nada. Nothing. Now there is a conspiracy of silence that boggles
the mind.
From CHV: "I just finished listening to the Burien interview for the second
time. The information was incapacitating. I could tell by the timbre of your
voice that even you were reeling from the information. Walter is truly brave
to expose this one, as it cuts deep. Every time I think my adrenaline
threshold has been reached, I am pushed through yet another gate! You blew
the doors off with that one."
The above quote was a typical response to Burien's recent appearance on the
Jeff Rense talk show. So what is it that we are talking about? CAFRs?
Trillions of dollars? Government theft? Media silence? Here is a recent
e-mail sent to Jessie Ventura, just elected Governor of Minnesota:

From Walter J. Burien, Jr. CEO-C.E.V.I. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gov. Elect Jesse Ventura
Date: 11/13/98
Governor Elect Mr. Jesse Ventura,
I heard your comments on meet the press, Sunday morning. When you gave the
example that when you were mayor of Brooklyn Park, and the city council
wanted to raise tax's by $360,000 saying they had a short fall on their
"city budget for schools" and you looked into the "revenue structure of the
city" and found $48,000,000 of investment funds in which the $360,000 could
be satisfied from, when I heard you say that, I jumped in the air and
stomped my feet on the ground, yelling out "good man, good man". You are the
first individual that I have heard in my lifetime, give a clear example
within a show, produced by the syndicated national news media, as to the
difference between the "budget" and the investment funds held separate from
the budget.
... I would hope to have a phone conversation with you this upcoming week.
What I proposed to Arkansas from a little radio station in Hot Springs, AK
may be the perfect plan at THIS TIME in Minnesota as the model for the rest
of the country to follow. Please confirm your receipt of this E-mail by
return E- mail and call me by phone as soon as soon as convenient to you at
520 445-3532...
Wait a second... what is this 

[CTRL] Fw: 145-National ID

1999-10-01 Thread CobolMage

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- Original Message -
From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 1:26 PM
Subject: 145-National ID


Post Number 145: National ID Card
Freedom?  How free are you, really?  Ever wonder about that, or about
some of the rumors you hear being bandied about?  Well, you are about to
learn, first hand, what the real nature of the United States government
(a corporation in bankruptcy and under the control of the International
Monetary Fund) is.  This is not a pretty picture, but what is coming is
what amounts to an internal passport, where you will have to show your
"approved" ID for travel, for "work," and for any other activity, such
as banking, that you now foolishly take for granted.  Welcome, to a
brave new world.  Oh, and as you read this first part, please note that
license is simply another word for tax.


BUT DON'T FORGET WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY
Last fall, as I was preparing to go on my annual 10-day, Montana elk
hunt, I learned that I would have to obtain a brand inspection for the
donkey I had purchased to pack gear - this license because I would cross
county lines, and I might be deemed a "rustler" without it.  So, it
suddenly occurred to me to count up the necessary licenses, without
which I couldn't make the hunting trip.
1. Drivers license
2. Motor vehicle title (pickup)
3. Motor vehicle registration
4. Motor vehicle license and plates
5. Trailer # 1 (haul camp gear) title
6. Trailer # 1 registration
7. Trailer # 1 license and plate
8. Trailer # 2 (carry donkey) title
9. Trailer # 2 registration
10. Trailer # 2 license and plate
11. Conservation license
12. Elk hunting license
13. Deer hunting license
14. State lands access permit
15. Forest Service firewood cutting permit
16. Donkey transport permit and bill of sale (brand inspection)

As I was traveling slowly (with two trailers) down the road headed for
hunting camp, I was counting up these government permissions, and
realized that I had even more permits in my wallet.
1. Concealed weapon carry permit
2. Private pesticide applicator's license
3. Commercial pesticide applicator's license
4. Voter registration permit

Then it occurred to me to think of the other permits that I had at home
that are critical to my daily existence.
1. Business license (to be in business for myself)
2. Occupancy permit for my home, including these permits I had to get to
build my home:
a. zoning and comprehensive plan compliance permit
b. building permit
c. excavation permit
d. septic permit
e. electrical permit
f. foundation permit
3. Lobbyist permit (to lobby the Legislature to uphold the Constitution)

I am told that the necessary laws are already passed to require every
person to have and carry an internal passport, smart card driver's
license, by October 1st of 2,000.  Then, a person will need to obtain
government permission to travel, and probably to breathe.
Best wishes,
Gary S. Marbut, President Montana Shooting Sports Association


If you are looking for a newspaper with good news and timely articles, I
recommend this one, The Jubilee.  I have received it before, and I
always found it to be Truthful and full of facts.
Washington Grassroots Email Network
Subject:NID: National ID Card Is Now Federal Law
HREF="http://www.jubilee-newspaper.com/id_card_95.htm"http://www.jubilee-ne
ws

paper.com/id_card_95.htm
The Jubilee Newspaper
P.O. Box 310
Midpines, CA  95345
1-209-742-NEWS
Copies of this issue V9n5 are available from  The Jubilee Circulation
Dept.
National ID Card Is Now Federal Law by Cyndee Parker

In September of 1996, President Clinton signed into law, the Illegal
Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Buried at
approximately page 650 of the new national Defense Bill, also known as
Public Law 104-208, Part B, Title IV, the American public was given a
national ID card. With no fanfare, no publicity and no scrutiny, the
bill easily avoided the watchful eyes of even its most aggressive
opponents.

The Coalition to Repeal the Fingerprints Law, a Georgia grassroots
movement trying to rid the state of the new requirement to give digital
fingerprints in order to obtain a state ID or driver's license, recently
discovered the national ID tie. The group found that the national law
not only mandates a national ID card, but found how it is to be used.

In Section 401-403, pilot programs have been initiated by the U.S.
Attorney General, one of which is the "Machine Readable Document Pilot
Program." In this particular program, employers would have to "procure"
a document reader linked to the federal government's Social Security
Administration in order to have the potential employee swipe their new
driver's license/national ID card through the reader. Then, it would be
up to the federal government to either approve or disapprove the
applicant for employment.

Section 326 and 327 provide $5,000,000 per year grants to each state
participating in any of the three pilot 

[CTRL] rep suck 2

1999-10-01 Thread earthman

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I had 2 replies to my post re the tongue lolly.. Both confirmed they are
being sold in the US..This is the second reply I got..

Peter

Hi. Matt (my hubby) read that post. When he was at our grocery store
today he saw them on the shelf. He complained to the department manager.
The man opened one. It was exactly as described. Matt said the tongue
came out and looked like a dog's you-know. The mgr swept them all off
the shelf in disgust! The other branches surely have been notified.
Thank you for the warning! :)



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1999-10-01 Thread earthman

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UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com

Jesse, my ex-NSA source, has the following to say about the disastrous
accident at the nuclear processing plant in Japan.

"A SCREWUP, BUT WITH ALIEN COMPOUND MATERIAL
NOT FOUND HERE. THE PLANT IS A TECH. PLANT THAT IS "DOING" TOO MANY THINGS,
AND WHAT THEY MIXED IS NOT EXACTLY THE MATERIAL THAT THEY CLAIM. MORE ARE
GOING TO DIE."

With that cryptic message, Jesse alludes to unacknowledged Japanese
efforts to work with extraterrestrial [possibly transuranic] material for
undisclosed research and development purposes.
Apparently, the nuclear "cocktail" is far more deadly that the "normal"
nuclear explosion.

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

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