[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990610a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No heavenly choirs were heard during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ [CAUS Updates] "As we head into the last summer before the new millennium, the crop circles are once again returning to fields around the world with a dozen formations now in England as of this update (all in oil-seed rape - canola in North America) and the first report for this year in Germany. The circle season in England got off to its earliest start of any year so far, with the first formation reported in early April (usually most circles are first reported at the end of April or early May). An interesting array so far of overlapping circles rings (including a 617 foot depiction of this summer's upcoming major eclipse - ?), old-style (early '90s) pictograms and crescents. Will they also return to Canada? Time will tell; most formations in this country are reported later in the year, in late July or August." Latest Reports: http://cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/connect.html : Have you seen any crop circles lately? Have you made any? Have you helped the aliens make any? Can you make crop circles in ant farms? Do they notice? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # HOW WOULD HUMANS REACT IF E.T. LANDED? "NASA and the scientific community are actively searching for evidence of extraterrestrial life, but what if we were confronted with undeniable proof that ETs exist and have been vis- iting Earth? A nationwide survey by the Roper Organization for NIDS has uncovered the following: ..." See http://www.sightings.com/ufo3/react.htm : Would you be freaked? Would you expect everybody else to freak? Would you be welcoming, angry, partying, homicidal, drunk, indifferent, masturbating? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BUYERS LOST THEIR MARBLES FOR GAG HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS. Here's a fun story about a guy selling gag health care products over the Internet. Sales were good for his cures for "tired penis syndrome" and a "fatoid flusher" - until he told people they're novelty items. A reminder of how gullible some folks are about buying alternative health care products. Apply with care and love, folks. http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13105 : Do you have, or do you know anyone who has, "tired penis syndrome"? Does the application of a placebo cream help any? Have you tried other creams? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ABDUCTION. "Raymond A. Fowler, in his book 'THE ANDREASSON AFFAIR' (Prent- ice-Hall, 1979) gives an extensive description of an abduction experience of one woman who was taken by the "Gray-type" aliens and later returned to her house. These creatures... had the ability to travel between stars but her account seems to suggest that their ORIGINAL point of origin is within a cavernous subterranean realm." http://www.rcbbs.com/docs/cavern2.txt : Have you ever been abducted by Grays? Are they better, worse or about the same as Reptoids? By which aliens would you most like to be abducted? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Greens call for total GM ban. (BBC) British agriculture must make profound changes, including a total ban on genetic engineering, says a report by 2 leading environmental campaigns. Ban hybridizing culling too, of course. @ Links: The Soil Association: http://www.soilassociation.org/ @ Greenpeace True Food Campaign: http://www.truefood.org/ : What's your fave gene modification? Have you mutated lately? Into what? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # HAS THE SMALLPOX THREAT RETURNED? A group of scientists has gone on record calling for anticipatory measures in case of a smallpox epidemic. Since the disease is no longer a natural threat, vaccinations against it were stopped years ago - so we're again vulnerable to it if terrorists unleash the virus. A frightening prospect - who would have dreamt smallpox would re-emerge as a threat, after being eradicated by modern medical science? Those darn terror- ists... http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13104 : Do you wanna wage biowar? Will you use smallpox? Who will you attack? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Satan Sez. Another mental fundamentalist was shot dead by St. Cloud police after threateningly pulling out a bloody knife - from his own chest! The clearly disheveled Kevin Hartwig was also reported to have sacrificed his pet pooch stating, in traditional nut-case fashion, that God made him do it. I'm sure He had His reasons. http://home.att.net/~zazel/satan_sez.htm : Do your deities provoke you into self-destructive behavior? Are they worth it? Would you do better with other deities? Do you like to sacrifice dogs? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Hot and Cold Running Fusion: www.skypoint.com/members/jlogajan/ @ Cold-Fusion Times: http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html @
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-06-09 22:10:48 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither Jesus nor Mohammed --nor GOD, certainly-- would ever have condoned the actual behavior of the "believers" in the respective religions now attributed to them Hear, hear. Prudy Not to beat a dead fish, but I revel in quoting Matthew 7:20-27 (NIV) to "Christians": "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. "Many will say to me on [judgment] day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in thy name, and in your name drive out demons, and perform many miracles?' "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" That's Jesus Christ talking to CHRISTIANS, please note. If you want to take "The Word of God" LITERALLY, there'll be only 144,000 saved at Endtime. Let's do the math. That's only 72 new "good" people WORLDWIDE for each of Christianity's 2000 years. Since Constantine made Christianity the official religion of what became Western Civilization, there's probably been literally BILLIONS of nominal Christians -- certainly MILLIONS now. So, the odds are ASTRONOMICAL that EVERY self-professed "CHRISTIAN" we've ever known or heard of is GOING TO HELL, right alongside unabashed Satanists ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Peace in Kosovo = Gun Control
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A fuller explanation of the terms for "peace" in Kosovo, as detailed on
MS-NBC today, revealed that NATO (US/Britain) now requires that the Serbian
uniformed army, Serbian "para-military," Serbian police (and technically
even Serbian security guards), and Serbian CIVILIANS that are pro-Milosevic,
give up their guns or be classified as combatants, i.e., violating the
"peace" agreement. Anyone, military OR civilian, is therefore automatically
subject to the rules of war if he or she possesses a firearm.
From what I heard, however, the same terms do NOT apply equally to the
KLA or to Kosovar civilians supporting the KLA.
"Peace" between the Serbs and Kosovars therefore means that the Serbs
are being deprived of their right to self-defense, while the Kosovars (by now
pretty pissed off and chanting "Death to all Serbs!") are being allowed, if
not encouraged, to be fully armed.
And the only others fully armed are the anti-Serb US/British "peacekeepers."
How many of our "hawks" are supporters of "gun control," just ELSEWHERE?
The thought --possibly paranoid-- crossed my mind that these "little
wars" abroad
are only "practice" for a bigger, more dangerous war someday -- the "peace"
that the UN, NATO or other global agency expects to wage in AMERICA, as the
US is more fully "reintegrated" within the global-market framework of the
projected North American Union and finally Western Hemispheric Union, broken
down ("devolved") into smaller territories defined LIKEWISE primarily by
ETHNIC ("cultural") common denominators -- which would make southern
California, parts of the Southwest and Texas MEXICAN territory, and meld the
northern US with Canada (except for the French in Quebec).
(That would explain why the Clinton Administration looked the other way while
the Red Chinese delivered assault weapons to the Zapatistas and to Latino
gangs in East LA.)
So, perhaps the "urban warrior" military exercises that have been
occurring more frequently in this country are NOT "practice" for wars abroad,
as the official story goes (despite years of "practice," the strategies and
technology specific to "urban warfare" are NOT being used in Belgrade, at
least thus far) but actually the reverse -- "little" wars abroad are practice
for the far GREATER challenge of urban warfare HERE AT HOME.
How did that NATO general, "by coincidence" on the scene during the
Columbine High School massacre, feel about "gun control"?
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[CTRL] Fwd: G.H.W.BushJr. on Corporate Personhood ... ?
Subj: G.H.W.BushJr. on Corporate Personhood . . . ? Date: 99-06-05 00:32:15 EDT From: x To: xxx DISCLAIMER: NO, THIS IS NOT A JOKE! Go to www.gwbush.com for yourself and see. This is not a joke either: this man will very likely be the United State's next president. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 1, 1999 "Limited liability" would be a thing of the past, under a bold new initiative to punish shareholders and managers for corporate crimes by imprisonment or, in lesser cases, the confiscation of shares. "Corporations want to be human," said Governor and likely Presidential candidate George W. Bush yesterday at Yale University's law school, "and we owe it to them to help them." Bush described the corporate urge to become human as "compassionate avarice," and said that it was "not entirely about getting richer." "One would have to be very cynical indeed to think that corporations, when they won protection as 'persons' under the 'Freed Slave' Amendment, were thinking only of their own wealth," Bush said. He was referring to the 14th Amendment, which had been designed to protect the rights of freed slaves, and which was used http://www.ratical.com/corporations/TCoBeij.html in 1886 to establish corporations as "natural persons" under the law. "Corporations clearly just want to join our fine species, and an epic enterprise like that is not to be taken lightly." Bush said that corporate "limited liability," whereby shareholders are not responsible for crimes committed in their name, prevents corporations from being responsible. The only way to change that, Bush said, is to start punishing shareholders in corporations that commit crimes. (See end section for specific examples of the punishments Bush is proposing.) "We've got to get tough on crimes committed by corporations, just like we've tried with teenage kids. 'Tough on crime' policies don't work with humans, but corporations are much more rational, much more cause-and-effect-driven. They can be intimidated into behaving correctly." Good for markets? While some experts dispute whether corporations can ever actually have a conscience or become human, Bush said he has "experienced a consensus" that punishing corporations for the crimes they commit will at the very least have a positive effect on the market. "Everyone agrees that government regulation makes markets sluggish," said Bush. "Government regulation has been necessary because it's the only controls we have. But if each shareholder and manager is personally responsible for corporate crimes -- including safety errors and all the way down to lies about quality -- then you've automatically got market controls of the process. And not only will government regulation be unnecessary, but you'll also eliminate the need for several layers of management, further increasing profit margins." Bush easily dismissed concerns that personal liability for corporate crimes might discourage individual investors from taking a risk. "People love to gamble," he said, "and this will make it all very real." For those who do not thrive on such risks, Bush suggested that the mutual fund industry would easily adapt to manage complex decision-making processes, just as it has in the past. "The prime mechanism of regulation will be shareholder judgement, delegated or not. If investment in one company is likely to land you in jail, you'll invest in another instead. Mutual fund companies will find it an exciting challenge to obtain and keep investor confidence, and this challenge will reinvigorate the industry, and in fact the whole concept of investment." Appropriate punishments When Bush spoke about proper punishment regimens for corporate crimes, he tellingly began with what is not punishment. "Fines are not punishment, they do not build character," Bush said. "What's a ten-million-dollar fine to a giant corporation? Fines seldom if ever affect the pocketbooks of shareholders or managers, those who make the decisions or power the machine. But hitting pockets and people directly is a totally different thing." "We must remove the burden for controlling corporations from big government and regulation -- such as fines -- and place it squarely on the judiciary," Bush said. Bush outlined his unique two-tiered punishment program, which would punish corporations for legal infractions according to their severity. Bush explained that there would be two "suites" of punishment, for levels of crime roughly corresponding to misdemeanors and felonies. In one "suite" -- for "misdemeanors" like bilking taxpayers of seven-figure dollar amounts, overcharging consumers, attempting monopolies, and contributing to simple human troubles like asthma and brief bouts of homelessness -- punishment would take the form of short- or long-term share confiscation. Dividends of confiscated shares would pay for remedial actions, where possible, as well as public-good programs like
[CTRL] Bankers Busted in Japan
-Caveat Lector- Former Execs Arrested in Japan TOKYO (AP) - Investigators arrested three former executives of a failed Japanese bank today and searched the company's headquarters for evidence of concealed bad loans and illegal dividend payments. Katsunobu Onogi, 63, former president of the Long-Term Credit Bank of Japan Ltd., was arrested after investigators raided his Tokyo home. Former vice presidents Yoshiharu Suzuki, 62, and Masami Suda, 59, were also apprehended. The arrests came after prosecutors, metropolitan police and securities and exchange officials swarmed into the bank's Tokyo head office and affiliated companies in search of evidence. ``We will fully comply with the searches,'' LTCB said in a statement. LTCB, once one of Japan's most prominent banks, was nationalized last year after being declared insolvent. Prosecutors reportedly summoned former top executives recently for questioning. The three executives arrested today are suspected of telling employees to falsify the bank's securities reports to cover up the actual amount of its bad loans. Onogi is reportedly accused of ``forcing'' other bank directors to consent to paying dividends totaling $58.7 million for fiscal 1997, although the bank had in fact suffered large losses. To pay the dividends, the executives allegedly approved a scheme to make losses appear smaller than they actually were. LTCB became the first Japanese bank nationalized since the end of World War II after authorities determined that its liabilities exceeded its assets by about $2.81 billion. Current management has filed a criminal complaint with police and prosecutors accusing former executives of engaging in illegal business practices. LTCB was founded in 1952. Onogi, who assumed the presidency in April 1995, resigned in September to take responsibility for the bank's failing business. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pope Woos E. Orthodox (2)
-Caveat Lector- Pope Emphasizes Christian Unity By PAUL GEITNER .c The Associated Press SIEDLCE, Poland (AP) - Pope John Paul II traveled to eastern Poland today for a Mass and ecumenical meeting with Orthodox Christians from the former Soviet Union. Catholic and Greek Orthodox faithful from Belarus, Kazakstan, Lithuania, Ukraine and Russia were among the estimated 400,000 people gathered in a meadow for the Mass in Siedlce, 55 miles east of Warsaw. Banners and flags in the crowd were from Belarus, the Ukraine and even Siberia and the Urals region in eastern Russia. The afternoon ecumenical meeting in Drohiczyn, 18 miles further northeast on the Bug River, was to include Orthodox Christians. Christian unity and religious pluralism are major themes of John Paul's 13-day pilgrimage to his homeland, which began Saturday. The pope is heading to Umschlagplatz monument in Warsaw on Friday to pray for Jews killed by the Nazis during World War II. ``This pope gives inspiration and hope for reconciliation between the Catholics and Orthodox,'' said Igor Sidelnyk, a Ukrainian theology student from Lviv dressed in black clerical clothes. Orthodox Christian Churches and the Roman Catholic Church have been separated since the Great Schism in 1054 in a dispute over papal authority and interpretation of their creed. John Paul is head of the Roman Catholic Church, while Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, the archbishop of Constantinople, is the spiritual leader of 300 million Orthodox Christians. The dispute is rooted in a decision by Emperor Constantine in 330 to move the capital of the Roman Empire to Byzantium, later Constantinople. The decision created a power struggle between the popes and the patriarchs. Constantine also convened the council that formulated the Nicene Creed, a confession of faith that delineates the roles of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. The creed is the main theological division between the churches. In recent years, efforts at reconciliation have been hindered by Russian complaints that the Roman Catholic church was trying to proselytize what the Russians considered to be Orthodox lands of the former Soviet Union. ``Everybody defends his own religion as his own tongue. Each nation, even small ones, wants to have its own faith, its own tradition,'' said Wira Kos, 70, who arrived five hours early with a church group from Lviv to secure a good vantage point. John Paul, 79, spent Wednesday sightseeing in a pristine national park in northeast Poland where he used to lead pastoral retreats when he was a priest and bishop. No public events were scheduled, but the pope paid a surprise visit to a farm family and greeted hundreds of people at a lakeside chapel he stopped to visit. ``I'm not coming here for the first time, but it's the first and perhaps the last time as the pope,'' he said outside a chapel he used to kayak past before he left Poland for the Vatican in 1978. ``No, no!'' some of the crowd of 500 shouted. Others broke into the traditional song, ``Sto lat,'' which means ``May he live 100 years.'' ``I have tears in my eyes because he said it was his last visit here,'' said Zofia Ostrowska, 65. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] War Bucks Debate
-Caveat Lector- "Facing the House today is debate on a provision that would place restrictions on the use of U.S. funds for either sic a military or a peacekeeping presence beyond September 30. Democrats and some Republicans are trying to strike that provision from a $288.8 billion defense authorization bill ..." A bill, AT THIS MOMENT, giving "defense" almost a third of a trillion dollars?!?! "The House was also expected to take up a proposal by Rep. Tillie Fowler, R-Fla., that would require the president to get express prior approval from Congress before sending any forces to Kosovo." (Now that the horses are out, let's debate putting a good lock on the barn door.) House Faces Votes on Kosovo By TOM RAUM .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - The House is facing a series of votes on the future U.S. presence in Kosovo, even as members of both parties applaud a new peace accord that will allow American peacekeepers into the Serbian province. Facing the House today is debate on a provision that would place restrictions on the use of U.S. funds for either a military or a peacekeeping presence beyond Sept. 30, the end of the present fiscal year. Democrats and some Republicans are trying to strike that provision from a $288.8 billion defense authorization bill, particularly in light of Wednesday's agreement under which Serb forces are being withdrawn from Kosovo. House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., praised the peace agreement and the U.S. forces in the Balkans. ``I hope the people of Yugoslavia see this as an opportunity to replace their leadership, especially Mr. Milosevic,'' Hastert said in reference to the Yugoslav president, Slobodan Milosevic. Congressional Republicans are pressing for a legislative demand that no U.S. funds be used for rebuilding Serbia, outside of the province of Kosovo, as long as Milosevic remains in power. Meanwhile, the Republican-controlled House voted late Wednesday to end another U.S. peacekeeping force - the one that has been in Haiti since March 1995. The House voted 227-198 to pull the permanent force out of the Caribbean nation by the end of the year. ``Our troops have been fired on in Haiti. ... Things have gone sour in Haiti,'' said Sen. Porter Goss, R-Fla., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the sponsor of the amendment. ``It's not fair to leave our troops in Haiti in an open-ended deployment,'' agreed Rep. Benjamin Gilman, R-N.Y., chairman of the House International Relations Committee. Instead of a permanent force, the measure would allow ``periodic, noncontinuous'' troop deployments there. Opponents complained that the peacekeeping force in Haiti numbered fewer than 500 troops. ``Haiti does not have an army now because they agreed to get rid of it,'' said Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich. ``Our troops are not in jeopardy.'' The House also rejected, as it has done in past years, a proposal to liberalize the ban on abortions at military hospitals overseas. It turned back, 225-203, a proposal to allow the procedures if the woman paid for it with her own funds. The House is expected to wrap up work on the defense bill today. The provision in the bill to restrict Kosovo funds would ``pull defeat from victory,'' said Rep. Ike Skelton of Missouri, senior Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee. The House broke into bipartisan applause when Skelton announced Wednesday afternoon that a peace accord had been signed in Macedonia. Specifically, the provision Skelton and other Democrats want to defeat would prohibit U.S. funds from being used for either combat or peacekeeping operations in any part of Yugoslavia beyond Sept. 30. If the president wanted to continue such operations, however, he could cite national security grounds and submit separate legislation to Congress. Rep. Floyd Spence, R-S.C., chairman of the Armed Services panel, expressed continued support for the provision - but agreed the peace agreement might change some votes on it and other Kosovo-related measures. The restriction was approved last month by Spence's committee. Skelton is leading the effort to strike it from the bill, claiming it's an embarrassment in light of the peace announcement. The House was also expected to take up a proposal by Rep. Tillie Fowler, R-Fla., that would require the president to get express prior approval from Congress before sending any forces to Kosovo. Meanwhile, the House voted 428-0 for a package of amendments from members of a House committee that last month concluded China stole U.S. nuclear secrets over a 20-year span. The package beefs up counterintelligence programs at the Energy Department, requires polygraph tests of employees at national laboratories, restricts lab visits by foreigners and requires a barrage of new reports to Congress on technology exports. The bill is H.R. 1401 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds
[CTRL] US Out of Panama, Colombians In ...
-Caveat Lector- Colombian Guerrillas Invade Panama By JUAN ZAMORANO .c The Associated Press LA MIEL, Panama (AP) - Nelson is lonely. He sits on a block of concrete, surrounded by 100-odd houses, the lapping of the surf on a deserted beach and the jungle. The only other person in town is an old man too sick to leave. His neighbors, his friends, the children who play soccer in the dirt streets - all have fled, terrified of the guerrillas who crossed over from Colombia and appeared two weeks ago. They are also terrified of the paramilitary groups they fear will soon follow. Nelson, 40, was too afraid to give his last name. He is paid to keep an eye on the wooden houses, the school and the health clinic in the village, 150 miles east of Panama City. But when the sun begins to drop in the sky, even Nelson gathers his things and sets out for the nearest town, Zapzurro, a mile away across the Colombian border. ``You can't sleep peacefully here,'' he said. La Miel, a tiny border outpost, has no soldiers. Panama hasn't had any army since shortly after the 1989 U.S. invasion to drive out Gen. Manuel Noriega. And La Miel's police station was closed 17 years ago. So there is little to stop armed Colombians from crossing into Panama on raids for food and supplies, or even just a little rest on the pristine beaches. The increasing incursions have caused alarm among the villagers in Panama's remote Darien province, in the capital and even in the United States, where officials have expressed concern about Panama's ability to defend itself. On Dec. 31, the United States will complete a pullout from its military bases in Panama and turn over its territory and the Panama Canal to Panama. Many U.S. officials have worried privately - and some publicly - about security threats to the vital waterway. Some Panamanians, meanwhile, believe the incursions are a plot orchestrated to discredit them and give the United States a way out of its withdrawal. ``They just need the right excuse - the incapacity of the police to protect the border - to justify the maintenance of the military bases,'' said sociologist Olmedo Beluche, a critic of the U.S. military presence. To the villagers of La Miel, the guerrillas presence is simply frightening. Two weeks ago, Colombian guerrillas mounted an attack on Zapzurro, then crossed the border and entered La Miel. Armed men sat on porches, and some rebels took food and shoes. Many villagers fear paramilitary groups supported by Colombian landowners will follow the guerrillas and take revenge on La Miel. In Colombia, those groups have mostly targeted civilians they accuse of sympathizing with the rebels. ``The guerrillas were diplomatic, but what will happen to us if the paramilitaries come and accuse us of collaborating with them?'' Nelson asked. ``Quite simply, they'll kill us.'' Up the coast in Puerto Obaldia, the biggest town in the region, men who claim to be members of Colombia's FARC guerrillas wander into town to buy food, drink in the bars and listen to Colombian Vallenato music. In the hills near town, the same men can be found in camps. They confirm their allegiance to the FARC, the largest of Colombia's guerrilla groups, but refuse to talk in detail to reporters. ``We're here to rest. We don't want to bother the Panamanian police,'' said a young man holding a semiautomatic rifle in the jungle outside Puerto Obaldia. He wouldn't give his name. Colombia's war has crossed the border before. In 1997, a paramilitary unit attacked La Bonga village and killed five people. Seven months later, men attacked a police barracks in Boca de Cupe and took weapons. One policeman was killed. But never before have the incursions inspired such fear - and such controversy. Hundreds of people have fled their villages, and opposition groups in the capital are demanding action from the government. The Roman Catholic bishop of Darien province has appealed for a special police force to protect the border. ``We don't want to be dragged into a foreign armed conflict,'' Bishop Romulo Emiliani said. ``It's a question of sovereignty that Panama must address.'' Panama has already begun to respond. This week, it sent more than 300 officers from the capital to Puerto Obaldia. They planned to spread out to places like La Miel soon. That comforts former residents of La Miel, including 28-year-old Eder Quintana, who has taken refuge in Zapzurro. ``I haven't lost hope that things will get better and we can go back without fear,'' he said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of
[CTRL] Richardson Drags Feet on Chinagate
-Caveat Lector- Dept.'s Espionage Review Delayed By H. JOSEF HEBERT .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Energy Secretary Bill Richardson said Wednesday he has turned over an internal investigation into mishandling of the China espionage case to the department's inspector general, delaying its release for at least 30 days. The long-awaited review of the Energy Department's response to the alleged theft of nuclear secrets from the Los Alamos nuclear weapons laboratory in New Mexico had been expected to be released this week. ``More questions need to be asked. ... I want to do this right. Careers are at stake,'' Richardson said. Richardson has said the mishandling of the case involving a three-year espionage investigation of a Los Alamos scientist would result in firings and demotions. ``There will be disciplining. There will be terminations,'' Richardson reiterated Wednesday, speaking to reporters after a three-hour appearance before the Senate Intelligence Committee. But Richardson said a draft of the internal report given to him on Monday ``did not effectively or adequately deal'' with the actions of personnel at the agency's headquarters in Washington. He said he had accepted findings involving Los Alamos employees, but would not elaborate. ``I've now asked the inspector general's office to do a comprehensive report that will be due in 30 days,'' he told reporters. Richardson refused to discuss whose job might be in jeopardy or whether any senior officials, still at the department, might be disciplined. The internal investigation has focused on why a Los Alamos scientist, Wen Ho Lee, was allowed to keep his top-secret job and access to the country's most sensitive nuclear secrets while under investigation by the FBI since 1996. Lee was fired last March for security violations. He has not been charged with a crime and has denied giving secrets to China or anyone else. In 1997, the FBI informed senior Energy Department officials on several occasions that Lee's transfer to a less sensitive job would not jeopardize the espionage investigation. But that information was not relayed clearly to Los Alamos managers. The internal investigation has sought to determine the reason for what Richardson has called a ``communications breakdown'' involving the Lee case. At the same time, the report is examining charges by a DOE intelligence officer, Notra Trulock, that he had been blocked by former Deputy Energy Secretary Elizabeth Moler from making concerns of lax security and the Lee espionage case known to then-Energy Secretary Frederico Pena and to members of Congress. Moler, who has since left the department, has denied any such interference. Trulock in late May was given a $10,000 Energy Department award for his persistence in exposing the security problems. Richardson said Wednesday, ``He's a member of my team.'' Meanwhile, in testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Richardson argued Wednesday against a Senate proposal for a largely autonomous agency within the Energy Department to oversee the government's nuclear weapons programs. The proposal would create a Nuclear Security Administration that would have authority over its own budget within the department. Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., said the measure would ``ensure the safety and reliability of the U.S. nuclear arsenal'' by providing clear lines of authority and accountability without interference from other offices of the department. Richardson called the proposal ``a step toward military control of nuclear weapons development'' that said it would undermine his attempt to gain more control over the nuclear labs including security and counterintelligence activities. ``We don't need any more fiefdoms at the Department of Energy,'' Richardson said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Congress Challenges Clinton's N Korea Policy
-Caveat Lector- More resistance to Clinton's "imperial presidency." Rep. Urges Consultation on N. Korea By GEORGE GEDDA .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - House International Relations Committee chairman Benjamin Gilman said Wednesday he is concerned that the Clinton administration is forging a new policy toward North Korea without adequate consultation with Congress. Gilman, R-N.Y., outlined his criticism in a statement after former Defense Secretary William Perry gave Gilman and other members of Congress an update on the North Korea policy review he initiated eight months ago at the request of President Clinton. Gilman said he was concerned that the administration has ``actually completed its review and is moving forward with quiet diplomatic initiatives with North Korea'' without close consultation with the Congress. He noted that legislation approved last year called for the development of a bipartisan approach to North Korea as a means of easing differences between the administration and the Congress on the issue. Gilman's statement did not criticize Perry directly and was devoted largely to procedural issues, not substance. The State Department had no immediate response to Gilman's statement but an administration official disputed the suggestion that the administration is pursuing a new policy. He said Perry has yet to make recommendations on policy changes to President Clinton. As part of his review, Perry visited North Korea two weeks ago. He said immediately after the visit that he explored with North Korean officials the possibility of a ``major expansion'' in U.S. relations with North Korea if U.S. and allied concerns about North Korea's missile and nuclear programs were addressed. Of particular concern is North Korea's development of long-range ballistic missiles. Perry said he traveled to Pyongyang as a presidential envoy and not as a negotiator. ``It will take some time for the DPRK (North Korea) to further reflect on the views I expressed and for us to reflect on our visit,'' he said at the time. In his statement, Gilman said, ``North Korea continues to be a grave threat to its neighbors, to American troops in the region and to U.S. national security interests.'' He said North Korea policy must be based on a step-by-step program of ``conditional reciprocity'' that is backed by strengthened conventional deterrence as well as a missile defense system in the region. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] War Criminals -- Clinton, Blair, et al
-Caveat Lector- War Crimes Group Ponders Airstrikes By ANTHONY DEUTSCH .c The Associated Press THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) - A group of independent lawyers pressed the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal Wednesday to investigate allegations that NATO committed war crimes in the bombing campaign against Yugoslavia. Chief prosecutor Louise Arbour met privately with lawyers from Britain, Canada, Greece and Switzerland to discuss evidence they claimed showed that the alliance violated ``international criminal law in causing civilian death, injury and destruction'' in bombing that began March 24. The tribunal has focused its actions so far on the behavior of Yugoslav forces and the country's leaders, indicting President Slobodan Milosevic and four senior associates. But U.N. court has made it clear it also will evaluate the credibility of any evidence implicating the Western military alliance. ``No person is excluded from the authority of the tribunal,'' tribunal spokesman Paul Risley said. Arbour and the lawyers discussed the formal launching of an investigation, Risley said. He did not elaborate on what kind of evidence, if any, the tribunal might have in hand. The group made the presentation on behalf of unspecified peace groups, the Movement for the Advancement of International Criminal Law in Britain, and the American Association of Jurists. Included in the presentation were allegations against President Clinton, Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair and NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana. ``We have plenty of compelling evidence of war crimes committed by the bombing of Yugoslavia,'' said one of the lawyers, Alexander Lykourezos of Greece. He said the charges involved ``the mass destruction of the civil infrastructure and general destruction of country'' and specifically stemmed from the bombing of bridges and a building that housed Serbian television. The meeting came as the tribunal prepared to send its investigators for the first time into Kosovo along with a peacekeeping force. The investigators will be gathering evidence of Yugoslav war crimes to buttress reports from refugees of widespread murder, rape and plundering. An accord reached in Germany on Tuesday gives the tribunal safe and swift access to Kosovo once the peacekeepers can remove mines and booby-traps left behind by departing Serb forces. There was no immediate reaction from NATO. It appeared unlikely the tribunal would do any more than the World Court, which last week dismissed as unfounded Belgrade's contentions that the NATO bombing raids amounted to a genocidal campaign. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russ Military Balk at Yeltsin's NATO Deal
-Caveat Lector- Yeltsin: "Apres moi, le deluge?" A military coup and hardliners in power? Russia Army Opposes Kosovo Deal By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV .c The Associated Press MOSCOW (AP) - When Russia's special envoy for Kosovo returned home last week after brokering a peace plan, a stone-faced Russian general stood at his shoulder and openly assailed the deal as a sellout to the West. ``Each of us should answer this question in his own soul - have we betrayed Yugoslavia or not?'' said Gen. Leonid Ivashov, who accompanied envoy Viktor Chernomyrdin, and represented Russia's Defense Ministry at the peace talks. Now that Russia has agreed to the Kosovo peace plan, the military's opposition to the terms of the deal and their support for Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic points to potential problems in implementing a peacekeeping operation. Russia and the seven leading industrialized nations, known together as the Group of Eight, agreed Tuedsay to a draft U.N. resolution to end the Kosovo crisis. But while NATO says it will be in charge of the peacekeeping force, Russia says the full command structure still has to be negotiated. Russia is considering sending up to 10,000 troops for a proposed force of 50,000. But Ivashov and other military officials have insisted Russian troops will not serve under NATO command and their stance has become Russia's official view. ``The president still determines the foreign policy, but he and his pro-Western inner circle have become increasingly isolated,'' said Pavel Felgenhauer, an independent military analyst. ``It's a struggle between two groups, one of which favors a quick agreement with the West while another stands for siding with the Serbs.'' Russian leaders have been unanimous in their condemnation of NATO raids on Yugoslavia, but there have been differences on what the response should be. While President Boris Yeltsin said from the start that Moscow wouldn't be drawn into the war militarily, the military brass spoke of sending military advisers - and even weapons - to Yugoslavia. ``They can fire a general, but they can't fire all of them,'' Felgenhauer said. ``Ivashov expresses a broad opinion of the military elite. He's smart enough to realize that once the current government is gone, his patriotic statements will be fondly remembered.'' In any case, Yeltsin has not publicly censured Ivashov for his outspoken remark. When he met with the assertive general a day later, there was no indication that Yeltsin rebuked him. Broad anti-Western sentiments among the Russian elite and a large segment of the public make it hard for Yeltsin to censure Ivashov and other hawks without further eroding his low popularity. The Russian military has always been suspicious of NATO, and after a period of improved relations in the first part of this decade, the military grew wary as the alliance announced plans to expand. Then in March, three eastern European nations joined NATO and the alliance began bombing Yugoslavia. ``There is a feeling that Russia will be the next victim after it had failed to stop NATO in the Balkans,'' Felgenhauer said. Yeltsin can't afford to be too critical of the military, because the Kremlin has long used the same anti-NATO stance. While highlighting a split in the Russian leadership, the hawkish statements from Ivashov and other generals don't mean the nation's armed forces are on the verge of open mutiny, most analysts say. ``The military opposition isn't structured, it's far from becoming an independent political force,'' said Sergei Oznobishchev, the director of the Institute for Strategic Assessment, an independent think-tank. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russia and China, Together Again
-Caveat Lector- Russia Seeks Close China Ties .c The Associated Press MOSCOW (AP) -- Building close ties with China was one of Russia's top foreign policy goals and the two nations want a strong strategic partnership, Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin said Wednesday. Stepashin made the remarks at the start of talks with a visiting Chinese official, Zhang Wannian, deputy head of the Central Military Commission. Russian Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev also attended the meeting, which focused on military cooperation. ``The Russian government will spare no effort for strengthening relations between Russia and China. We should jointly implement the policy of strategic partnership, outlined by Russian President Boris Yeltsin and (President) of the People's Republic of China Jiang Zemin,'' Stepashin said. Russia and China have been working to improve ties in recent years. Both nations resent what they see as the global domination of the United States and favor some form of alliance to counter Washington. Russia and China were united in their strong condemnation of NATO attacks against Yugoslavia, saying they would step up their efforts on political and military cooperation. Stepashin said he had been born in China when his father was an adviser to the Chinese military. ``Meeting you, I am in a way continuing my father's work,'' he told the Chinese visitor. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Free Trade vs World Government
-Caveat Lector- Not so. But the globalists would have you believe so. Any country with the population and natural resources could be totally independent of the rest of the world. And if free can show the rest by example. Size has nothing to do with prosperity and trade is unnecessary and a waste of energy resources shipping back and forth. Lloyd Sez: The above is fantasy, I am afraidSize has nothing to do with prosperity? Trade unnecessary? Afraid not folkstrade has always been critical as resources are not evenly distributed. Even more important, technology export has always been critical to development elsewhere. Full employment can be obtained without trade [grinding, struggling over-employment!], but not prosperity [meaning a high standard of living]. All of economic history shows that increase specialization and division of labor leads to a higher standard of living. We should be opposed to the World Government International Institutions that create an unjust international political spoils systemnot real free trade. External competition is destructive between countries that are not equals. Like free and slave or one with organized labor and another where it's forbidden. Lloyd Sez: Yikes! Now we are going to pretend that labor unions increase prosperity? Nonsensethey are just the weight that efficient unorganized labor has to carry through higher prices. Only during the adjustment phase is economic competition between countries destructive. Protected economies are unstable. When they are exposed to international competion they must re-adjust their productive activities to wherever their comparative advantage lies... Their reward is the low prices for imported goods. Of course, in military and political competion, competion is always destructive for the "unequal". Such military/political competition expressed through a World Statist World Trade Organizationthat is a nightmare of exploitation. Competition internally is essential. Protectionism was and it necessary for a free country to protect it's labor as we are about to learn again, Japan already knows it now that its labor is paid as much or more than ours. Lloyd Sez: Effective wages are all that countsbeing stubborn about money wages are silly. Lower wages can be more effective if one has access to lower prices via unregulated imports. It is fighting the imports it makes off its own shores from importing into its internal markets. It's our markets that are supporting the world and we are producing nothing at home. We are existing on large markups on their cheap stuff. (cheap in cost not in quality because we own (interest) the factories overseas). Lloyd Sez: "Markets" don't support the world. Production supports! Markets consume. America, as the world Imperialist Super-State behind the International facade (IMF-GTO-World Bank-Un- etc etc) creates the world's money out of nothing and exports it to the rest of the world through our "trade and investment" deficit and gains vast quantities of goods for nothing. A side effect of this is a continual pushing of US workers out of one field of production after another. This is not due to free trade, but is due to America's export of Federal Reserve fiat money..Nothing can be fixed unless honest money can be acheived. Thus, the current system is not free trade, but a world Imperialist Statist system. It is not free trade that must be eliminated, it is the World Imperialist, Super-Government system. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Video Finder, Free Catalogs, Links, Sweepstakes, What-Not: http://www.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm *** -Original Message- From: Edward Zaharis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [prj] Fw: BBC Website reports Bilderbergs (2) YOUR PERSONAL POST OFFICE...TRY IT FREE FOR 90 DAYS! It's like having your own post office, right in your home. No more tripsto buy stamps. Meter refills itself. Save up to 20% on postage. Try it free for 90 days. Click here! http://a-albionic.com/postoffice.html
Re: [CTRL] June 13 bonus feature -- cops respond
-Caveat Lector- Interesting you should post this tonight. I was tailgated closely by a 'sheriff' tonight. As I carefully signaled to turn left, not knowing what the idiot was doing only a few feet from my rear bunper in an apparent attempt to intimidate me into exceeding the speed limit, one of Marin Counties best, speeded up and passed me with only a few inches to spare on my right side. My father used to be a county cop, going through all of the training and buying the usual police paraphenalia, such as a billyclub, sawed off shotgun, and leather covered lead weight (they don't leave lacerations when 'subduing' a suspect). After a few months he found out that most of the volunteer deputies were mainly interested in harassing and beating Blacks, hippies, and Latinos and quit. Steve On 9 Jun 99, at 18:28, Vin Suprynowicz wrote: FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR EMBARGOED RELEASE DATED JUNE 13, 1999 EDITORS: Due to length, please consider this your bonus feature for June. ALSO PLEASE NOTE potentially OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE in paragraphs 6, 14 (quoted matter beginning: "Here's a word of advice ..."), and 18 (quoted matter beginning: "Let's face it, who wants this guy ...") THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz 'Many cops imagine they are in a war zone' When writing anything critical of a police officer, we newsmen are trained from our cub reporter days to always lead with the caveat: "The vast majority of police officers are fine, dedicated public servants, of course, who bravely put their lives on the line each day ..." Unfortunately, based on the hard evidence of 118 e-mail responses I've received from our Boys in Blue or Beige to my May 16 column on Las Vegas Metro Officer Bruce Gentner, who emptied a 14-round magazine into an unarmed suspect but whose actions were found "justifiable" (as usual) by a Las Vegas coroner's jury (after the officer explained the suspect refused to raise his hands quickly enough and made a supposed "furtive movement towards his waistband,") it appears that traditional, rhetorical ratio may now have to be reversed. I did, thank heavens, receive a few civil and thoughtful replies from some of our armed centurions, acknowledging every shooting is different, that a few may be wrongful, and sensibly asking further details on the death of 32-year-old Las Vegan John Perrin, who was armed only with a basketball. More typical however, were comments like: "You are a piece of trash and if there is any justice then you will someday be placed under a magnifying glass and fried like the roach you are." (Officer R.D.) "Wear my shoes one damn day, you piece of sh-t ..." wrote Officer T.M., delicately removing his own offending vowel. "Try a 40 cal. SW behind your ear." "Just wanted to let you know that you are a no good, second guessing coward who hides behind subjective reporting." (Officer J.W.) "I hope soon you will be ... the victim of a mugging or some other form of violent attack. (No signature.) "i find the press mostly reprehensible. ... in the past the press served a purpose. now they just serve themselves." (Officer D.P.) "I wouldn't WASTE a bullet on your sorry butt. Someone like you with one-sided opinions should not be authoring columns for the largest paper in Las Vegas. Im sure that Soon you will get yours, probably from some crazed person with a gun, like the ones that Police Officers are right now protecting you from with their lives." (also unsigned.) The train of invective went on, growing in volume as reports of my criticism spread to police Internet discussion lists. In the end, 67 percent of the respondents -- 80 out of 118 officers -- appeared to be doing their best to convince me that the armed "public servants" now charged with our safety resemble nothing so much as a troop of quasi-literate, homicidal trolls. (So anxious were some of the officers to hurl the worst insults in their limited lexicon that some even branded me a "liberal" -- an odd label for a writer who favors universal machinegun ownership and abolition of the IRS, with no "replacement tax" whatsoever.) The most chilling, though, was probably the lengthy reply of T.B., an officer with the Cleveland, Ohio police department (who, to his credit, and unlike many of the critics above, did supply his full name -- I withhold it here because I have no way to positively confirm his identity.) T.B. firmly asserts police have every right to shoot unarmed suspects "100 times, if necessary," and continues: "Here's a word of advice: if you're going to be a know-it-all, cop-hating, rhetoric-spewing moron please at least strive to be original. First of all the officer never chooses the time and place. The suspect alone makes that choice. Know why? Because police officers are bound by law to act on any suspicious or criminal activity they observe. That means that if you get stopped by a
Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- SCIO-LTD wrote: The subsidies are often indirect through the granting of minor or major monopolies, (for a good example see the history of ATT, and the monopoly they had for well over a half a century).The government often has a dual use/dual purpose agenda in these areas, with strong linkages between industry, academia, and government. This is NOT capitalism. You too ... why is it everyone desires to label things as such they are not? Regard$, --MJ This is not YOUR idea of capitalism. But capitalism it surely is. This system is what capitalism became. The origins, the myths, the outcomes are capitalist because the elites are capitalist and shape the society to suit them. Ask the elites what they are. Ask them their favorite economic system. Get real Johnson. You are becoming quite tedious with your unrealities. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Much of the R and D in high tech industries is funded by the taxpayers... We have NASA, NSA, Livermore, MIT, the mammoth defense contractors.. Silicon Valley has had its share of government subsidies.. MJ: Then it is NOT capitalism. Capitalism CAN NOT EXIST WITHOUT GOVERNMENT Reality starts on the ground man. Not as a definition. You have it all ass backwards Johnson. William Hugh Tunstall wrote: So the argument that market forces (capitalism) are responsible for high tech innovations is false. When "the invisible hand" stays invisible, government comes to the rescue. Non squitur It is a clear statement, and I understood the meaning quite well. Why do you insist upon calling a dog an apple pie? Regard$, --MJ The difference between the right word and a similar word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug. -- Mark Twain How long have you lived with this brain? It's like obsessive compulsive disorder. The real world is out there Johnson. If it doesn't match the picture in your head then you must change the picture. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: (Fwd) On FEMA/NWO? [FEMA history: Opinions]]
Here it is folks. All neatly summarized. America's future as now being planned out by Bill "Beelzebubba" Clinton and his sinister cohorts. Byron Weeks ~~ --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:04:05 EST Subject: On FEMA/NWO? [FEMA history: Opinions] The Secret Government No One Wants You To Know About Ether Zone Online! 12/01/98 Bob Momenteller This secret government organization has more power than the President of the United States or the Congress, it has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution. It it not only the most powerful entity in the United States, it was created without regard to Constitution Law under Congress. This Governmental agency was created by Executive Order. It is not part of the CIA or the Military. This Governmental agency was first created by President Richard Nixon and has been refined since by Carter, Regan and Bush. The organization is called FEMA, short for Federal Emergency Management Agency. Most people who are familiar with this agency, often relate it to weather storms, hurricanes and the like. While this serves as a primary function of this agency, far more power has been licensed to this entity than meets the eye. The original intent of FEMA was to assure the survivability of the United States government in the event of a nuclear attack on this nation. The powers of FEMA continued to grow under people like Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord, the architects on the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of America's savings and loan institutions. FEMA has even been given control of the State Defense Forces, a rag-tag, often considered neo-Nazi, civilian army that will substitute for the National Guard, if the Guard is called to duty overseas. Few of the mass populace even know that this agency exists. A close inspection of your home mortgage papers however, will reveal it's existence if you live in a flood plain. Where ever disaster strikes, FEMA has probably had a hand in it. They were deeply involved in the Los Angeles riots and the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area. Many of those black helicopter reports are flown by FEMA personnel. FEMA has been given new responsibilities that include urban forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee situations, urban riots, and emergency planning for nuclear and toxic incidents. FEMA was created with a series of Executive Orders. These orders became law whether or not they are Constitutional. They become law by simple publication in the Federal Registry. The key Executive Order Number 12148 created the agency that would interface with the Department of Defense. To date, FEMA has only spent 6% of it's budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been spent on secret underground facilities and internment camps. An Executive Order signed by President Bush in 1989 authorized the Federal Emergency Management Agency to build 43 primary camps having a capacity of 35,000 to 45,000 prisoners each and also authorized hundreds of secondary facilities. Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Below, we list some of the Executive Orders that could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen: EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power,gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001: allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002: designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003: allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004: allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]
-Caveat Lector- christians give christianity a bad name. religion is no excuse for bad taste. chris Humans give everything a bad name, simply because we're not perfect. Religion sucks, Christianity wasn't intended to be a "religion," something you do on the weekends, (weekend warriors as they call them). It's an everyday relationship with the Lord. Let's move on now. Jamie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: (Fwd) Littleton Conflict Resolution classes]
This one ought to freak out all freekies in the CTRL classes. --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:03:40 EDT Subject: Littleton Conflict Resolution classes To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friends: I know we've all be inundated with Littleton articles. Everyone has an idea about what (and who) to blame. And it is all valid. But let's not forget to also examine classroom curriculum. The following is often taught in lieu of, and at the expense of, academics. Karen This and other education articles: http://paul-revere.org/pr/holgate School Violence: Is Conflict Resolution an answer or part of the problem? by Karen Holgate Parents National Network Everyone is writing about, talking about, or hearing about the disaster in Littleton, Colorado. Kids killing kids. How could a thing like this happen? There is certainly enough blame to go around. Parents, movies, video games, rock music, police, teachers and school administrators have all been mentioned. In an April 24 weekly Republican radio address, Gov. Owens said about the Littleton tragedy, ".there is no one place on which we can lay all the blame." And in reference to the growing acceptance and glorification of violence, the Gov. said, "We do need to take a hard look at he subculture of violence, death, anarchy and incoherence that seems, in recent years, to have become so appealing to so many young people." Since Littleton, threats against schools across the nation have become a national epidemic. Everyone is seeking answers to the problem; seeking to lay blame on someone or something; seeking a way to solve the problem. But once today's concern dies down, will the problems be solved? Will Hollywood stop making violent movies? Will "blood and guts" video games end? Will "rockers" change their lyrics? Probably not. Will parents assume responsibility for their children's behavior? Will parents teach their own children responsibility and administer discipline when they don't behave? The truth is that good parents will continue doing those things; bad parents will not. Yet for all the attention we are focusing on those things mentioned above, are we forgetting another major area of concern? What has not been discussed nearly enough is the curriculum being taught-not only in Littleton-but in schools throughout the nation. Curriculum that is mandated, in part by federal law (Goals 2000 and School-to-Work) and, in part, by educators who believe that schools must fill a void they perceive as being vacated by parents However good their intentions, are the programs that were designed to help children actually contributing to the problem? The time has come to examine the curriculum being taught daily in classrooms across America. Some of these include, but are not limited to, death education, values clarification, self-esteem and conflict resolution. Matt Drudge recently wrote that death education was nothing new at Columbine High School. He reported that in 1991, an ABC NEWS, 20/20 profile included a statement from one Columbine student, Tara Becker. Ms. Becker said that while she had thought about suicide, she would never "have gone through with it." She said she "wasn't brave enough." But she went on, in the interview, to say that her death education class (often called "suicide prevention") taught the students how to be "brave enough to face death" and included discussions about how the students would look in their caskets. This type of exercise is not unusual. Some classes have children-as young as elementary age-visit cemeteries; write their own obituaries, write their date of birth and date of death, along with an appropriate epitaph, on their own headstones. In one Ohio third grade classroom, these tombstone legacies were hung for display around the classroom. (Isn't that what mom and dad want their child surrounded with at school all day?) In 1998, a high school student in Santa Monica, California, reported that after her death education class, she found herself thinking about suicide every time she had a problem. She said it frightened her because she had never thought about suicide before the class. After several weeks, she finally asked some of her friends if she was the only one who was having these dark thoughts. She was both scared and relieved when her friends admitted they too had thought about suicide since the class. (The National Institute of Mental Health has said about these programs: "Most school-based, information only, prevention programs focused solely on suicide have not been evaluated to see if they work. New research suggests that such programs may actually increase distress in the young people who are most vulnerable . ALL suicide prevention programs need to be scientifically evaluated to demonstrate whether or not they
[CTRL] (Fwd) Release: 10 Most Wanted
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:49:17 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Release: 10 Most Wanted To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Libertarian Party announcements list) Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- === NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.lp.org/ === For release: June 10, 1999 === For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Why no government murderers, robbers, or perverts on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list? WASHINGTON, DC -- The most shocking thing about the FBI's new "10 Most Wanted" list is all the dangerous criminals who are not on it: The criminals who just happen to work for the federal government, the Libertarian Party said today. "From murder to kidnapping to sexual assault -- many government employees have committed what would be considered heinous crimes if perpetrated by ordinary citizens," said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. "But curiously, none of those government desperados made it onto the FBI's list." On Monday, the FBI released the latest edition of its famous 10 Most Wanted list, which included a frightful line-up of murderers, international terrorists, robbers, and bombers. And that's good, said Dasbach: "Every person on that list who committed a crime of violence should be punished; justice demands it. But justice also demands that everyone who commits a crime of violence be treated equally -- even if they happen to be a politician, the head of a federal agency, or a government bureaucrat." With that in mind, Dasbach offered a Libertarian version of the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list: Government criminals who weren't on the list, but should be. 1. U.S. Customs Commissioner Raymond Kelly. Crime: Accessory to sexual assault. "Last year, U.S. Customs employees under Kelly's command ordered 2,797 international airline passengers to strip off their clothes at gunpoint, intimately groped them, and conducted humiliating body cavity searches," said Dasbach. "Ordinary Americans who behave this way are called sex criminals, but Customs inspectors who behave like perverts are given promotions." 2. Justice Department Asset Forfeiture Division Chief Jerry McDowell. Crime: Grand larceny. "Last year, the Justice Department confiscated 42,454 cars, boats, houses, and other belongings -- valued at over $604 million -- from Americans who were never convicted of any crime," said Dasbach. "That's theft on a mind-boggling scale, and makes Jerry McDowell one of the criminal masterminds of the century." 3. Marine Corporal Clemente Banuelos. Crime: Murder. "In 1997, Banuelos and three fellow Marines on an anti-drug patrol in Redford, Texas, gunned down 18-year-old Ezequiel Hernandez as he was herding goats near the Mexican border," noted Dasbach. "Why is cold-blooded murder not considered murder when committed by someone wearing a Marine Corps insignia?" 4. President Bill Clinton. Crime: International terrorism. "Osama bin Laden made the FBI's list for killing 224 people in embassy bombings -- yet Clinton has killed literally thousands of innocent civilians during his undeclared and unconstitutional war in Yugoslavia," said Dasbach. "That kind of mass murder of innocents should not go unpunished by a civilized nation." 5. Former NHTSA director Joan Claybrook. Crime: Accessory to murder. "As head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in the 1970s, Claybrook forced automakers to install air bags, many of which have malfunctioned and exploded, killing 115 people," said Dasbach. "If Death-by-Regulation isn't a crime, it should be -- and Claybrook should be the first person prosecuted." 6. Social Security Commissioner Kenneth S. Apfel. Crime: Investment fraud. "If an ordinary American did what Apfel and his Social Security co-conspirators do -- run a retirement program where the only assets are billions of dollars of IOUs -- they would be in jail faster than you can yell 'AARP!' " said Dasbach. "Why is the government's Ponzi Scheme, where new investors are paid with money from old investors, not shut down like any other criminal pyramid scheme would be?" 7. Attorney General Janet Reno. Crime: Conspiracy to commit murder. "Not even the Mafia would do what Janet Reno ordered done on April 19, 1993: Assault a religious compound with tanks, military helicopters, and poison gas," said Dasbach. "Yet that's what happened in Waco, Texas -- killing 69 men, women, and children. Son of Sam is in jail for committing serial murder: Why isn't
[CTRL] Caspia: 06-10
-Caveat Lector- So: a need for a placid Balkans is shared by others; AND, the need for a docile Kurdish people likewise demostrated -- again ... From Newsmax.CoM The Caspian Connection: Pipeline Politics and the Balkan War Carl Limbacher and Caron GrichJune 9, 1999 What has America accomplished in the Balkans after 70-plus days of NATO bombardment? Cease fire negotiations sputter along on a wing and a prayer. And if they are successful, America will be rewarded with the privilege of contributing 7,000 troops to a force of 50,000 Kosovo "peacekeepers". Tour of duty: indefinite. Though Bill Clinton's Balkan adventure did much to keep the press distracted from matters like Chinese nuclear espionage and inconvenient rape charges (reporters last hit Clinton with a question about Juanita Broaddrick just five days before he ordered airstrikes on Serbia), it's debatable whether Kosovar refugees will be better off for all the effort. Slobodan Milosevic, recently dubbed an official war criminal, will retain power over Serbia. And NATO may even have to accommodate a Russian presence in Kosovo, which will only further discourage displaced ethnic Albanians from returning home. Not much of a victory. Not much, that is, until one considers another factor that may have propelled NATO into the Balkans; an incentive which has nothing to do with humanitarian relief or scandal spin. NATO's Eyes on the Prize If President Clinton were to level with the American people, he might just explain NATO's first hot war by using a variation of his old campaign theme: "It's the global economy, stupid." Because NATO's entry into the Balkans, though thus far an abject failure in terms of the mission's ostensible goals, places the West, and especially Western Europe, on the doorstep of resources so vast that the move could mean decades worth of economic well-being for member nations. Ponder this nearly two year-old observation from the New York Times, reported when a U.S. security force in the Balkans was only a twinkle in Madeleine Albright's eye: "Forget mutual funds, commodity futures and corporate mergers. Forget South African Diamonds, European currencies and Thai stocks. The most concentrated mass of untapped wealth known to exist anywhere is in the oil and gas fields beneath the Caspian (Sea) and lands around it The strategic implications of this bonanza hypnotize Western security planners as completely as the finances transfix oil executives." (New York Times -- September 21, 1997) Or this, from a conservative think tank the year before: "The vast expanses of the former Soviet Union harbor oil and gas riches which will be crucial to funding the global economy in the next century. The huge oil reserves, estimated at over 25 billion barrels under the Caspian Sea and in the central Asian republics of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are similar to those in Kuwait and larger than those in Alaska's Northern Slope and the North Sea combined." (Ariel Cohen, Senior Policy Analyst, The Heritage Foundation - January 25, 1996) "Control over these energy resources and export routes out of the Eurasian hinterland is quickly becoming one of the central issues in post Cold War politics," Cohen added, without noting that Caspian oil played a major role a pre-Cold War geo-strategic conflict as well. In an attempt to gain control over access routes to the same oil reserves during World War II, the Third Reich waged the bloodiest battle ever fought, the siege at Stalingrad. More recent history shows that war for oil isn't exactly a new concept, even for America. When the U.S. went to war to chase Saddam Hussein out of Kuwaiti oil fields in 1991, then-U.S. Secretary of State James Baker was unabashed about our motives, saying that there were three reasons behind Operation Desert Storm: "Jobs, jobs and jobs." Today Kosovo, Tomorrow Azerbaijan Ever since the break-up of the old Soviet Union, the West has had its eye on the oil fields of Central Asia. And security for pipelines carrying the crude out is a priority concern that could make or break billions of dollars already invested by U.S oil companies like Mobil, Chevron, Amoco and others. But to get Caspian oil to the trillion petro-dollar market of Western Europe, planners need alternatives to old pipeline routes that traversed Iran and Russia. That means development of the huge Eurasian reserves must focus on the corridor between those two potentially hostile regions. Almost all roads lead to Baku, Azerbaijan, the Caspian seaport believed to be sitting on trillions of dollars of untapped crude. 12 energy companies have entered into a $7.5 billion consortium, the Azerbaijani International Operating Company (AIOC). Five are U.S. based: Penzoil, Unocal, McDermott and Exxon, and Amoco, now merged with British Petroleum. In April the 515 mile Baku-Supsa pipeline opened for business and was
[CTRL] Making Schools Safe with Guns
-Caveat Lector- June 10, 1999 Where Kids and Guns Do Mix By Stephen P. Halbrook, an attorney in Fairfax, Va. He is author of "Target Switzerland" (Sarpedon, 1998). It's a commonplace that the U.S. is far more violent than Western Europe because Americans have easy access to guns. It's also false. To see why, visit Switzerland. Traveling around by car or train, you see shooting ranges everywhere. If there's a Schuetzenfest (shooting festival) in town, you'll find rifles slung on hat racks in restaurants, and you'll see men and women of all ages walking, biking and taking the tram with rifles over their shoulders, to and from the range. They stroll right past the police station and no one bats an eye. Switzerland has more firepower per person than any other country in the world, yet it is one of the safest places to be. The Swiss Federal Police Office reports that in 1997 there were 87 intentional homicides and 102 attempted homicides in the entire country. Of these 189 murders and attempts, 91 involved firearms. With its population of seven million (including 1.2 million foreigners), Switzerland had a homicide rate of 1.2 per 100,000. There were 2,498 robberies and attempted robberies, of which 546 involved firearms, resulting in a robbery rate of 36 per 100,000. Almost half of these crimes were committed by nonresident foreigners, whom locals call "criminal tourists." In 1993, not a single armed robbery was reported in Geneva. By contrast, Britain, which has strict gun control laws, had a homicide rate in 1994 of 1.4 per 100,000 population, and a robbery rate of 116 per 100,000. In the wake of the Littleton, Colo., school massacre, Congress is rushing to pass new gun-control measures; the House next week will take up proposed legislation that has already passed the Senate. But there have been no school massacres in Switzerland, where guns and kids mix freely. At shooting matches, bicycles aplenty are parked outside. Inside the firing shelter,competitors pay 12-year-olds to keep score. Sixteen-year-olds shoot rifles with men and women of all ages. A tourist brochure in Zurich recommends September's Knabenschiessen (boy's shooting contest): "The oldest Zurich tradition . . . consists of a shooting contest at the Albisguetli (range) for 12 to 16 year-old boys and girls and a colorful three-day fun-fair." While many shoot for sport, all males age 20 to 42 are required to keep rifles or pistols at home. Gun shops abound. Yet firearms are rarely used in crime. In America, firearms take on a sinister reputation from the nightly news and violent movies. But in Switzerland, firearms symbolize a wholesome, community activity. And since its founding in 1291, Switzerland has depended on an armed populace for its defense. William Tell used a crossbow not only to shoot the apple from his son's head, but also to kill the tyrant Gessler. For centuries, the cantonal republic defeated the powerful armies of the European monarchs. "The Swiss are well armed and enjoy great freedom," Machiavelli wrote in 1532. The Swiss militia model inspired the rebellious American colonists. John Adams praised the democratic Swiss cantons, where every man was entitled to vote on laws and to bear arms. Patrick Henry lauded the Swiss for maintaining their independence without "a mighty and splendid President" or a standing army. The Swiss influence is clear in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which provides: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." There may have been various reasons why the Nazis did not invade Switzerland, but one of those reasons is that every Swiss man had a rifle at home. For this we have no better record than the
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: (Fwd) On FEMA/NWO? [FEMA history: Opinions]]
-Caveat Lector- EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051: specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. ...increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. Is it just me or is this vague? Are international tensions happening now? Or would that be a time when bombs are flying? Financial crisis? What the heck is a crisis? According to who? Well, I know the answer to that, but you can see it's clearly written to accommodate them and their plan. Jamie Here it is folks. All neatly summarized. America's future as now being planned out by Bill "Beelzebubba" Clinton and his sinister cohorts. Byron Weeks ~~ This secret government organization has more power than the President of the United States or the Congress, it has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution. It it not only the most powerful entity in the United States, it was created without regard to Constitution Law under Congress. This Governmental agency was created by Executive Order. It is not part of the CIA or the Military. This Governmental agency was first created by President Richard Nixon and has been refined since by Carter, Regan and Bush. The organization is called FEMA, short for Federal Emergency Management Agency. Most people who are familiar with this agency, often relate it to weather storms, hurricanes and the like. While this serves as a primary function of this agency, far more power has been licensed to this entity than meets the eye. The original intent of FEMA was to assure the survivability of the United States government in the event of a nuclear attack on this nation. The powers of FEMA continued to grow under people like Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord, the architects on the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of America's savings and loan institutions. FEMA has even been given control of the State Defense Forces, a rag-tag, often considered neo-Nazi, civilian army that will substitute for the National Guard, if the Guard is called to duty overseas. Few of the mass populace even know that this agency exists. A close inspection of your home mortgage papers however, will reveal it's existence if you live in a flood plain. Where ever disaster strikes, FEMA has probably had a hand in it. They were deeply involved in the Los Angeles riots and the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area. Many of those black helicopter reports are flown by FEMA personnel. FEMA has been given new responsibilities that include urban forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee situations, urban riots, and emergency planning for nuclear and toxic incidents. FEMA was created with a series of Executive Orders. These orders became law whether or not they are Constitutional. They become law by simple publication in the Federal Registry. The key Executive Order Number 12148 created the agency that would interface with the Department of Defense. To date, FEMA has only spent 6% of it's budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been spent on secret underground facilities and internment camps. An Executive Order signed by President Bush in 1989 authorized the Federal Emergency Management Agency to build 43 primary camps having a capacity of 35,000 to 45,000 prisoners each and also authorized hundreds of secondary facilities. Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Below, we list some of the Executive Orders that could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen: EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power,gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001: allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare
Re: [CTRL] Photon belt, solar storms, Kyoto EO
-Caveat Lector- At 09:53 PM 6-9-1999 -0700, you wrote: http://www.millenngroup.com/planetophysical.html Invalid URL. Please check. Updated URL: "PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE" by Dr. Alexey N. Dmitriev http://www.millenngroup.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html 'related' articles: Long-term Variations in Solar Activity and their Apparent Effect on the Earth's Climate by K. Lassen http://www.millenngroup.com/repository/solar/lassen1.html Influence of Cosmic Rays on Earth's Climate by Henrik Svensmark http://www.millenngroup.com/repository/global/CREC.html A (Solar-based) NEW ALTERNATIVE TO THEORIES OF GLOBAL WARMING by PIERS CORBYN http://www.millenngroup.com/repository/global/corbyn1.html . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-105, Day 79 (June 10, 1:00AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-105, Day 79 June 10, 1999; 1:00AM EDT HEADLINES Athens 1. Greece Keeps U.S. Marines at Bay - Literally! Phoenix 2. Some Reader Reactions to "Communist Media - Then and Now" Washington (state) 2.1 Light of Hope in Darkness of America Hawaii 2.2 How Lenin Conquered America I Oregon2.3 How Lenin Conquered America II Virginia2.4 "Brain Dead" Friends Illinois 2.5 How About a Duranty Prize? Phoenix 3. The Untouchables - Then and Now: Belgrade's Garbage Heroes Phoenix 4. Some TiM Reader Reactions to the Washington Speech Phoenix 5. Who's Stopping? 1. Greece Keeps U.S. Marines at Bay - Literally! ATHENS, June 9 - The on-again, off-again, arrival of 2,500 U.S. Marines at the Greek port of Thessaloniki is off again. The Greek government has decided to keep the U.S. marines at bay - literally - announcing June 9 that it will wait for a peace deal to be sealed before allowing the marines bound for Kosovo to pass through its territory, government officials said on Wednesday. "The marines will be allowed to pass the minute the peace talks are completed. This force must have the character of a peace mission and nothing else," a senior official told Reuters in Athens. The marines are on three U.S. Navy ships which were supposed to dock near the northern city of Thessaloniki on Sunday or Monday, but witnesses said they had stayed well offshore. Once the marines disembark, they will be taken on buses or helicopters across the border to Macedonia to reinforce NATO's peacekeeping force there. A government source said Washington was putting pressure on Athens at a very high level to allow the marines through. "We have made it clear to the Americans that, if no peace is signed, there will be no more troops passing through Greece," the source said. --- TiM Ed.: The tough stance which the Greek government has adopted despite the U.S. government pressure is all the more admirable since Greece is a NATO country. - 2. Reactions to "Communist Media - Then and Now" PHOENIX, June 10 - We have been gratified and overwhelmed by the outpouring of appreciation and support from TiM readers to our piece "Communist Media - Then and Now" (see S99-102, Day 75, Item 2, June 6). We wish to thank all of you who have written to us, and have selected excerpts from some of your letters to share them with all TiM readers: 2.1 Light of Hope in Darkness of America WASHINGTON (state), June 7 - "Bob, you have been the Light of Hope in the darkness of America in this 75-day struggle! You have brought to the attention of all Lovers of Freedom and Liberty in America and the World the plight of Yugoslavia in this dreadful conflict. In my Senior year of high school in 1966, we had a Saintess of a teacher in Senior English who somehow managed to pass a curriculum by the school board in which we studied all the great national epics for the different ethnic groups. Each student had to choose a different national epic and deliver a full 50 minute oral report, with about 25 students in the class---so this lasted for weeks In 'The Song of Roland,' (France) and 'The Niebelungenlied,' (Germany), the French stopped the Moors at the Battle of Tours in 732 AD, and Roman and German troops stopped Attila the Hun two centuries earlier. But only since this war started, I have begun to realize the Serbs contribution to European civilization in their defense of Christianity versus the Ottoman Empire. I am no 'Turk hater', either. The primary murder investigation I was involved in as a criminal investigator for the US Army was the La Belle Discotheque bombing in 1986 (in West Berlin), in which an attractive young Turkish girl had half of her face blown off in bombing - this also taught me to hate bombs - bombers are cowards! Your superior and exemplary journalistic work in this horrific war shines like a star in the best American tradition of the Free Press. You are the Thomas Paine and the William L. Shirer of the 1990's!" Victor Anton Wallenius, Washington (state) --- 2.2 How Lenin Conquered America I HAWAII, June 8 - "Thanks Bob... for Then and Now!! P.S. I passed PoliSci 101 (test). As Dimitri Manuilski, of the Lenin School of Political Warfare, so succinctly expressed it in 1933: 'War to the hilt between communism and
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-104, Day 78 (June 9, 2:00PM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-104, Day 78 June 9 1999; 2:00PM EDT HEADLINES Washington 1. Slaughter on Mt. Pastrik: KLA Air Force - Thy Name Is NATO Washington 2. Clinton Judge Dismisses Congressional Lawsuit Montreal 3. Former Canadian Prime Minister Assails NATO, Canada Belgrade 4. At a Serb Funeral: Tears for Victims of a "Regrettable Mistake" 1. Slaughter on Mt. Pastrik: KLA Air Force - Thy Name Is NATO WASHINGTON, June 9 - NATO officials in Brussels claim to have killed several hundred Serb-led Yugoslav troops in a single raid by a U.S. B-52 bomber that caught them massing near the Kosovo-Albania border on Monday, the Washington Post reported today. NATO military sources said the targets of the bombing were two Yugoslav army battalions spotted assembling on a hillside in the Mt. Pastrik area, near the Albanian border. The troops were apparently gathering to try to thwart a local offensive by ethnic Albanian guerrillas seeking to establish new supply corridors to the interior of Kosovo from their border strongholds. The B-52 was ordered to drop a heavy payload of cluster bombs on the troop concentration, estimated to number between 800 and 1,200 soldiers. Initial aerial assessments showed such massive annihilation that fewer than half the targeted troops are believed to have survived, according to alliance military sources. "This hit must have really stunned them," a NATO official said. "There's no doubt that the Serbs suffered enormous casualties. They were absolutely pulverized." The casualty toll may have been the highest suffered by security forces in Kosovo in a single attack since NATO's air campaign against Yugoslavia began 11 weeks ago. The sources said the B-52 bomber was diverted from its assigned target in another area and ordered to drop cluster bombs - antipersonnel munitions that are particularly effective against massed troops. The B-52 planes employed over Yugoslavia are based in Britain and can carry 500-pound Mark-82 gravity bombs as well as cluster weapons. The recent offensive by ethnic Albanian rebels of the Kosovo Liberation Army has succeeded in flushing into the open many Yugoslav and Serbian units that were previously well dispersed and hidden in ways that had made it difficult for NATO warplanes to strike at them. For the complete Washington Post report, check out: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/balkans/stories/nato0609 99.htm --- TiM Ed.: Ample evidence has emerged over the last 77 days that the KLA is a terrorist organization supplied by the West and financed in part with drug money. But before Mar. 24, just as in the case of the Bosnian Muslims during that civil war, it was lacking an air force. No longer. "KLA Air Force" - thy name is NATO. While the KLA attack the YU Army from their bases in Albania, NATO And just think - all these Serb soldiers were killed on Day 76 of the war - after the "peace agreement" had been approved by Slobodan Milosevic and the Yugoslav parliament. And after a weekend of worldwide protests against the NATO bombing (see S99-101, Day 74, Item 1, June 5 and S99-103, Day 76-77, Item 1, June 8). 2. Clinton Judge Dismisses Congressional Lawsuit WASHINGTON, June 8 - A federal judge appointed to the bench by Bill Clinton in 1994 dismissed on Tuesday the lawsuit filed by a group of House members who wanted the bombing of Yugoslavia by U.S. forces to be declared illegal. The lawsuit was filed by 26 lawmakers, led by Rep. Tom Campbell, R-Calif., who alleged that President Clinton violated the War Powers Act of 1973 by authorizing military air strikes against Yugoslavia (see S99-88, Day 62, Item 2, May 24). U.S. District Judge Paul Friedman, in his ruling granting a White House motion to dismiss the case, said "congressional reaction to the air strikes has sent distinctly mixed messages." The judge noted that on May 20, Congress passed an emergency spending bill to help pay for U.S. military involvement in the Yugoslav conflict. "Had the four votes been consistent and against the president's position, and had he nevertheless persisted with air strikes in the face of such votes, there may well have been a constitutional impasse. But Congress has not sent such a clear, consistent message," Friedman said in his ruling. --- TiM Ed.: That a Clinton judge should rule for Clinton is hardly surprising. But a more interesting question to us seems to be who and how steered the congressional lawsuit onto
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-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From The Outsider by Colin Wilson They are all asleep. This is the point to which Gurdjieff returns again and again. They must be made to feel the urgency of the need to wake up. And after the legend of the magician, to call the mass of contented bourgeois "sheep" has a new and terrible significance. At the end of All and Everything, the grandson of the "all-wise Beelzebub" (Gurdjieff's mouthpiece) asks whether it is still possible to save mankind and "direct them to the becoming path". Beelzebub answers: "The sole means of saving the beings of the planet Earth would be to implant again into their presences a new organ . . . of such properties that everyone should sense . . . the inevitability of his own death, as well as the death of everyone upon whom his eyes or attention rest." = Blowing up stuff that's not in Yugoslavia Pipe-Bomb Making 102 Prerequisite: survived Pipe-Bomb Making 101 PALM HARBOR -- The massacre at Columbine High School stunned classrooms around the country. Fourteen students and a teacher dead, a campus littered with homemade bombs, a nation in shock. At Palm Harbor University High, Timothy Falls' social studies classes were no exception. But instead of just discussing the Colorado rampage, Falls showed his students how to make a pipe bomb and explained where it should be placed at the school to cause maximum damage, an attorney for the Pinellas school district said Tuesday. The discussion occurred in several of Falls' classes April 21, the day after the Littleton, Colo., shootings, a district investigation showed. Superintendent Howard Hinesley has recommended that the School Board suspend Falls for 10 days without pay. Falls, 38, has requested a hearing to appeal the suspension, said Jacqueline Spoto, staff attorney for the district. Within four to six months, Spoto said, an administrative law judge will hear the appeal and endorse or reject Hinesley's recommendation. Ultimately, it will be up to the School Board to decide if the suspension is appropriate. Falls did not return calls to his Clearwater home Tuesday. A woman who identified herself as his wife said district officials have told him not to comment. Jade Moore, executive director of the Pinellas Classroom Teachers Association, said Falls has joined the union since the incident. Moore said he did not know details, but wondered if district officials may be overreacting. "If he advocated building a pipe bomb, that would be one thing. Or if the students were prone to do that, that's one thing. But explaining it, discussing it -- that's topical," Moore said. "It sounds to me like he was probably exercising his First Amendment right to academic freedom." Falls has discussed the matter with Mark Herdman, an attorney who often represents teachers at the union's expense. But Herdman said Tuesday he has not decided whether he will take the case. According to a narrative provided in a board agenda item, Falls began a discussion about Columbine in several of his classes. He called the shootings "a travesty" and "emphasized the importance of (students) being aware of their surroundings," the item said. The classes also discussed "hate talk" and Falls encouraged students to report "any unusual activities or individuals at school." Then, at students' request, Falls drew a diagram of a pipe bomb on the chalkboard "and described its components in detail," the item said. ". . . Mr. Falls and his students discussed the accessibility and vulnerability of all schools. Mr. Falls initiated a discussion explaining to students exactly where a pipe bomb should be placed at Palm Harbor University High School in order to maximize impact and why such a placement would be most effective in causing injury or harm," the item said. The Columbine shootings set off several weeks of copycat rumors and bomb scares at schools across the Tampa Bay area and the nation. Last month, Palm Harbor University High administrators canceled student performances of the Woody Allen comedy, Don't Drink the Water, which includes slapstick gags with a revolver and a bomb. They worried those elements might provoke violence or appear insensitive after the shootings. Spoto said officials learned of Falls' discussion from a parent who contacted school administrators. Alec Liem, the principal, district investigators and Hinesley decided a 10-day suspension was adequate, Spoto said. Falls will not serve the suspension unless the board approves it. Regular classes do not resume until August. Liem and Hinesley could not be reached for comment Tuesday. Falls served in the Air Force from 1979 until 1994, according to district personnel records. He was hired as a substitute teacher in August 1994 and became a full-time teacher that month at Clearwater High School, where he also coached the boy's soccer team. He
Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.
-Caveat Lector- This is NOT capitalism. You too ... why is it everyone desires to label things as such they are not? Oh yea, who seemest to correct an inconsistency, I have not label nor have I call a subsidy capitalism, from whence do derive such a conclusion form my statements? And yes subsidies are an insidious feature of capitalism, but it is not capitalism per se, and as such is a clearly axiomatic conclusion. Jeffrey C Hearon Founder CEO SCIO-LTD http://www.scio-ltd.net http://www.scio-ltd.com http://www.scio-ltd.org - Original Message - From: M.A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal. -Caveat Lector- SCIO-LTD wrote: The subsidies are often indirect through the granting of minor or major monopolies, (for a good example see the history of ATT, and the monopoly they had for well over a half a century).The government often has a dual use/dual purpose agenda in these areas, with strong linkages between industry, academia, and government. This is NOT capitalism. You too ... why is it everyone desires to label things as such they are not? Regard$, --MJ One of the sublimest things in the world is plain truth. -- Edward Bulwer-Lytton DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Denver Airport Pictures....
-Caveat Lector- This was posted to the list a few months back and I thought I'd repost the sight as I thought it was pretty interesting. http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html Jamie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [grassrootsreform] Re: eliminate the electoral college
-Caveat Lector- The Articles of Confederation established a unicameral Congress of the United States on behalf of the United States of America. The United States is the agent, an artificial entity, created on behalf of the States united under the Confederation established by unanimous consent in March of 1781. This Congress of the United States convened to consider questions of mutual concern for all parties of Interest. These parties of Interest were the States themselves. These States were the incorporation of the former Royal chartered colonies. The Estate of Maryland was formally incorporated as a Corporate body Politic by the council of Safety in November of 1776. This Declaration of Rights was amended on December 8th, 1776. This Council of Safety was empowered on December 8th, 1776 as a five member executive council chaired by the Governor, who was elected by the General Assembly. It was this State, the State of Maryland that signed the Articles of Confederation and later adopted the addendum to these Articles known as the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America in April of 1788. The United States was bankrupt in the middle 1780's. By 1786, the United States could not fund the interest on its obligations owed to its creditors. The crisis had the young Confederation of States on the brink of total economic collapse. Its ally, France had financially collapsed by the the end of 1786. Bills of Credit generated by the various States held no value from day to day. The Continental script was worthless by the spring of 1787. Commerce amongst the States and its foreign traders was no longer regular. The British Troops still set within forts within the Territory of the States. There was no navy to patrol the coast line or protect overseas trade. Chaos loomed. Shays rebellion shook the Political leaders to their very fiber. Meeting in secret, behind locked guarded doors, the representatives of the States, not the of the people, created an addendum to empower the States, through their Agency the United States. This Constitution was adopted by the States for the States. The people lead by the likes of Patrick Henry saw the inherent dangers of the National Government and were able to secure a limitation upon the application of powers articulated within the first seven articles of the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America. These first ten amendments restricted the and delineated the powers of the United States. The willingness of the first Americans to stand upon these limitations stirred the political arena to the brink of rebellion in 1833 under the infighting of John C. Calhoun, and Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson hard stance thwarted open armed rebellion. He successfully defeated the monetized debt instrument, the Bank of the United StatesHe failed to recognized the domination of the foreign agents, who knew the United States was the Virginia Company, which had successfully secured its administrative position in March of 1781, under its new name the United States. The stock holders of the Virginia dominated the United States, and secured its position as the administrator of the Public trust with the adoption of the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America. The people of the States, were allowed a voice in the House of Representatives. This voice died in December of 1860, when the Congress of the United States for the United States of America, adjourned sine die. After a million dead and wounded Americans spilled their blood, the United States was empowered under the fourteenth Amendment to use force of arms without question to suppress any perceived usurpation of its now unlimited statutorily created social democracy. The people have never had a voice in the election of the President of the United States. With the imposition of the ballot box, the people of the United States of America lost any voice in the control of the elected officials. Now with electronic ballotingthe most successful despotic tyranny in the history of the World has enslaved over 250 million people, and longs to dominate the other six billion people around the world, no matter what the cost. Changing the electoral college, imposing term limits, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service is not an answer. The answer is knowledge. The historical knowledge which is readably available buried within the law libraries across this Great land. The people of America have been lied to, deceived and sacrificed on the battlefields of the World not for liberty, but for the empowerment of Democracy. Read Woodrow Wilsons speeches about making the world Safe for democracy. This Social Democracy is the new world order. The United States is the colony of the Britannic majesty. The Sovereign States of America have deceived its own people to succor upon this corrupted trough of monetized debt and indentured servitude.
[CTRL] U can throw out the professional politicians[2000 our last chance]
-Caveat Lector- THURSDAY JUNE 10 1999 We don't know if voting works © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com I've had a great many people contact me in the past few days complaining that I'm not being very realistic when I admonish this nation to "throw out the professional politicians" during the November 2000 election. Having said that, I will admit -- based on results over the past few decades -- the prospect of seriously changing the electorate through the ballot box seems dim indeed. But there is another aspect to these results. Could today's ballot results be having a less-than-desirable effect on the political process because most of us aren't bothering to go to the polls? I wonder if most people even realize that this kind of pitiful voter turnout is exactly what our career politicians hope for every year. It's true. Incumbents count on poor voter turnouts because statistically speaking, incumbents benefit when voter turnout is low. Historically, when more of us turn out to vote, we routinely change the players in Washington. You may remember the most recent example of this: The so-called Republican Revolution in 1994. It happened because after only two years of Bill Clinton, Americans en masse were already prepared to make drastic changes and showed up in record numbers at polling stations all across the country. The result was a GOP-controlled Congress for the first time in over 40 years that was reelected, for the most part, in 1996 and 1998. Were these examples just flukes? In reality we really don't know because the last few generations of Americans haven't consistently shown up at the polls in large numbers. Consequently, there has been no way to gauge the very real power "ordinary" Americans possess in regard to selecting those we want to represent us in government. I personally know -- as do you -- many people who either never bother to vote at all in any election, or vote very infrequently, perhaps only when there is a "pet" issue to consider in a local ballot. What a shame that is. It's a sad testament to the United States that these days, in national elections, we consider it a good turnout if just 35 percent of eligible voters bother to utilize our God-given right and privilege to choose whom we want to lead us. If only a fraction of us who can ever bother to vote, how in the world can we then say that "we the people" have selected the leaders we send to higher office? "We the people" aren't doing anything except letting a minority of us choose an even smaller number of select people who are supposed to represent all of us. It doesn't make sense. For years Americans have complained that the federal government doesn't legislate on behalf of the majority anymore. Maybe that's because only portions of eligible Americans are even willing to help select those people we routinely criticize. If we value the kind of representation we are supposed to get, then we ought to value the process in which we select these people. If we want to reserve the right to criticize (or suggest better ways of doing things) then we ought to participate in the selection process. If we don't, then in essence we are not criticizing the lawmaker, per se; we are criticizing the selection of that lawmaker by a minority of voting Americans. That isn't the same thing because the lawmaker knows he or she can still count on the same few people voting for them the next time around if this trend doesn't reverse itself. I know there are many obstacles to making responsible choices for leaders to lead us. I realize the dominance of the two-party system, the bias of the mainstream media and their selective reporting, the occasional instances of voter fraud, America's addiction to the five-second sound bite, and so on. But we have to remember that we're citizens of this country, and this country belongs to us. With that also comes the responsibility of doing whatever it takes to find out how your representatives feel on the issues that are important to you. That isn't easy. But it is doable. We just have to commit ourselves to a few things, like our forefathers did. For one thing -- and this is especially true of any incumbent -- don't be satisfied with sound bite explanations for complex problems and issues. If your representative says, for instance, "We need more gun control," you need to find out why that lawmaker or candidate feels that way. While you'll probably never get to talk to the candidate yourself, sometimes just calling his or her campaign headquarters (where the call takers have been given "position statements" to read from) will be sufficient. Dig; don't just settle for some stock answer. Find out the details of their positions and what led them to formulate their positions. Secondly, turn the heat up on your current representatives and senators.
[CTRL] Tick, tick, tick [vote 2000 or become a slave to nwo elites]
-Caveat Lector- THURSDAY JUNE 10 1999 Tick, tick, tick One simple word, repeated three times. You knew before reading the first word of this column that it would somehow touch upon time. Who among us does not remember the quiet, persistent sound of that clock in our childhood bedrooms, ticking softly away, as our household went to sleep around us? The 11:55 freight train, the sound from its horn streaming on ahead of it, parting the night: three ticks of sound, two ticks of silence and then over again, the train on its way into the distance. Or the city, reluctantly and restlessly tossing and turning before settling into fitful slumber late into the morning. The windows open on a warm night, neighbors in the adjacent apartment snoring, or pacing the floor, a crying infant being comforted. My dictionary has a column of definitions for "time." They run the gamut from philosophical, "a nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession," to the mundane: "by paying in installments." But I wonder -- is not more of the truth of life wrapped up in the latter? Our lives are lived in installments; we call them days, hours, minutes and seconds. Tick, tick, tick. ... The 86,400 single-second "ticks" that comprised yesterday were merely an installment payment we made on that box of dreams we longingly refer to as "our future." There it sits on the shelf, behind the counter at the Shoporama. Sometimes we see it, wrapped in its glittering packaging, as we hand the clerk the next installment of our lives, and he writes out our receipt. Our retirement, the day the children graduate and leave home, that cruise we've been meaning to take. ... Soon we will be able to pick it up and handle it, enjoy it, show it off proudly to our friends. The young clerk smiles and remarks, "Only twelve more installments until your retirement is all paid for. Thank you for spending your life at Shoporama!" It is said that modern men and women value time above all else. America has become a service economy: people doing things that other people don't want to do, don't know how to do, or don't have time to do -- but will pay to have done. Dinner prepared at the burger palace and eaten in the car on the way home; daycare for lonely children while both parents pursue their careers as taxpayers; 18-year-old lovers and "it's my right abortions" for our 14-year-old daughters because daddy never had have time to hold her in his arms and talk to her. Our time is so valuable, and the Shoporama installment payments on our "layaway tomorrows" must be met. Who among us has not wondered if time is not God's cruel joke on the human race? We bemoan the past; we fret about the future. And yet of God the psalmist tells us, "For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night" (Psalm 90). And yet Jesus, who seemed to know a lot about God, focused most often on the present moment. His biographer, Luke, records that as a twelve-year-old boy lost in Jerusalem, Jesus was found three days later by his frantic parents, sitting at the feet of the teachers in the temple courts, questioning them. "Why were you searching for me?" he asked Mom and Dad. "Didn't you know I had to be in my Father's house?" Tomorrow would come, but He was occupied with the people around him today. And so it was throughout Jesus' ministry: "time," while it occasionally referenced the prior or the past, most often described a specific piece of the here-and-now. In fact, when his followers pressed him about the future, Jesus told them, "Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is" (Mark 13:33). So here is a great paradox: We who have instantaneous worldwide communications, the greatest labor-saving devices in the history of the world, and the atomic clock that measures time down to the decaying atoms of our universe -- we have no time for the people inhabiting the moment in which we live. Yet the One who predated time and inhabits eternity came to earth and lived with people in the present. He had no money, no organization, and no power. He lived only 33 years. He never worried about tomorrow, and there is no record of him in the Shoporama. But 2,000 years later, no individual has ever made a greater impact upon men and women down through history than Jesus Christ. His final word on time was recorded by the Apostle John: "And he saith to me, Seal not the words of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand" (Revelation 22:10). --- - © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com, Inc. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_mcmillan/19990610_xccmc_tick_tick_.shtm l Bard Visit me
Re: [CTRL] U can throw out the professional politicians[2000 ou r last chance]
-Caveat Lector- This guy can't be serious. Jamie THURSDAY JUNE 10 1999 We don't know if voting works © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com I've had a great many people contact me in the past few days complaining that I'm not being very realistic when I admonish this nation to "throw out the professional politicians" during the November 2000 election. Having said that, I will admit -- based on results over the past few decades -- the prospect of seriously changing the electorate through the ballot box seems dim indeed. But there is another aspect to these results. Could today's ballot results be having a less-than-desirable effect on the political process because most of us aren't bothering to go to the polls? I wonder if most people even realize that this kind of pitiful voter turnout is exactly what our career politicians hope for every year. It's true. Incumbents count on poor voter turnouts because statistically speaking, incumbents benefit when voter turnout is low. Historically, when more of us turn out to vote, we routinely change the players in Washington. You may remember the most recent example of this: The so-called Republican Revolution in 1994. It happened because after only two years of Bill Clinton, Americans en masse were already prepared to make drastic changes and showed up in record numbers at polling stations all across the country. The result was a GOP-controlled Congress for the first time in over 40 years that was reelected, for the most part, in 1996 and 1998. Were these examples just flukes? In reality we really don't know because the last few generations of Americans haven't consistently shown up at the polls in large numbers. Consequently, there has been no way to gauge the very real power "ordinary" Americans possess in regard to selecting those we want to represent us in government. I personally know -- as do you -- many people who either never bother to vote at all in any election, or vote very infrequently, perhaps only when there is a "pet" issue to consider in a local ballot. What a shame that is. It's a sad testament to the United States that these days, in national elections, we consider it a good turnout if just 35 percent of eligible voters bother to utilize our God-given right and privilege to choose whom we want to lead us. If only a fraction of us who can ever bother to vote, how in the world can we then say that "we the people" have selected the leaders we send to higher office? "We the people" aren't doing anything except letting a minority of us choose an even smaller number of select people who are supposed to represent all of us. It doesn't make sense. For years Americans have complained that the federal government doesn't legislate on behalf of the majority anymore. Maybe that's because only portions of eligible Americans are even willing to help select those people we routinely criticize. If we value the kind of representation we are supposed to get, then we ought to value the process in which we select these people. If we want to reserve the right to criticize (or suggest better ways of doing things) then we ought to participate in the selection process. If we don't, then in essence we are not criticizing the lawmaker, per se; we are criticizing the selection of that lawmaker by a minority of voting Americans. That isn't the same thing because the lawmaker knows he or she can still count on the same few people voting for them the next time around if this trend doesn't reverse itself. I know there are many obstacles to making responsible choices for leaders to lead us. I realize the dominance of the two-party system, the bias of the mainstream media and their selective reporting, the occasional instances of voter fraud, America's addiction to the five-second sound bite, and so on. But we have to remember that we're citizens of this country, and this country belongs to us. With that also comes the responsibility of doing whatever it takes to find out how your representatives feel on the issues that are important to you. That isn't easy. But it is doable. We just have to commit ourselves to a few things, like our forefathers did. For one thing -- and this is especially true of any incumbent -- don't be satisfied with sound bite explanations for complex problems and issues. If your representative says, for instance, "We need more gun control," you need to find out why that lawmaker or candidate feels that way. While you'll probably never get to talk to the candidate yourself, sometimes just calling his or her campaign headquarters (where the call takers have been given "position statements" to read from) will be sufficient. Dig; don't just settle for some stock answer. Find out the details of their positions and what led them to formulate their positions. Secondly, turn the heat up on your
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Stopforth, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] christians give christianity a bad name. religion is no excuse for bad taste. chris Humans give everything a bad name, simply because we're not perfect. Religion sucks, Christianity wasn't intended to be a "religion," some- thing you do on the weekends, (weekend warriors as they call them). It's an everyday relationship with the Lord. Let's move on now. Which 'lord'? Humans have so many... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]
-Caveat Lector- Religion operates like - do as I say, not as I do..When Adolph Hitler realized all these preachers did not practice what they preached, he saw a great light - but was later consumed in it. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Joint Guardian [vote 2000 to restore Constitution-be careful who u vote 4]
-Caveat Lector- US FORCES READY TO GO IN: FIRST WAVE COULD ENTER ON THURSDAY; ALL TO BE IN PLACE IN 5 DAYS With a Yugoslav military withdrawal imminent, nearly 7,000 U.S. troops are set to join the 48,000-soldier NATO in a move over the Kosovo border. *1,900 U.S. marines on ships in the Aegean are to begin landing at Salonika, Greece, at daybreak Thursday, Pentagon officials tell the NY TIMES. [The marines will then drive north into Macedonia to staging areas near its capital.] *1,700 U.S. soldiers, AH-64A Apache helicopters, tanks and artillery now in Albania will begin moving overland into Macedonia at first light on Thursday. *An advanced Army command unit with 200 troops is to fly overnight to Macedonia. *All the U.S. forces should be in place within five days. The troops will have to "find and disarm miles of land mines and rebuild dozens of recently bombed bridges and roads," the WASHINGTON POST is reporting in Thursday editions. The paper also reports that NATO and U.S. officials are hoping to turn the young, brash leaders of the KLA rebel force into a new "3,000-strong police force." Developing... http://www.drudgereport.com/matt1.htm Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ***10 Most Wanted***[federal murderers,robbers,perverts]vote2000!
-Caveat Lector- Why no government murderers, robbers, or perverts on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list? WASHINGTON, DC -- The most shocking thing about the FBI's new "10 Most Wanted" list is all the dangerous criminals who are not on it: The criminals who just happen to work for the federal government, the Libertarian Party said today. "From murder to kidnapping to sexual assault -- many government employees have committed what would be considered heinous crimes if perpetrated by ordinary citizens," said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. "But curiously, none of those government desperados made it onto the FBI's list." On Monday, the FBI released the latest edition of its famous 10 Most Wanted list, which included a frightful line-up of murderers, international terrorists, robbers, and bombers. And that's good, said Dasbach: "Every person on that list who committed a crime of violence should be punished; justice demands it. But justice also demands that everyone who commits a crime of violence be treated equally -- even if they happen to be a politician, the head of a federal agency, or a government bureaucrat." With that in mind, Dasbach offered a Libertarian version of the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list: Government criminals who weren't on the list, but should be. 1. U.S. Customs Commissioner Raymond Kelly. Crime: Accessory to sexual assault. "Last year, U.S. Customs employees under Kelly's command ordered 2,797 international airline passengers to strip off their clothes at gunpoint, intimately groped them, and conducted humiliating body cavity searches," said Dasbach. "Ordinary Americans who behave this way are called sex criminals, but Customs inspectors who behave like perverts are given promotions." 2. Justice Department Asset Forfeiture Division Chief Jerry McDowell. Crime: Grand larceny. "Last year, the Justice Department confiscated 42,454 cars, boats, houses, and other belongings -- valued at over $604 million -- from Americans who were never convicted of any crime," said Dasbach. "That's theft on a mind-boggling scale, and makes Jerry McDowell one of the criminal masterminds of the century." 3. Marine Corporal Clemente Banuelos. Crime: Murder. "In 1997, Banuelos and three fellow Marines on an anti-drug patrol in Redford, Texas, gunned down 18-year-old Ezequiel Hernandez as he was herding goats near the Mexican border," noted Dasbach. "Why is cold-blooded murder not considered murder when committed by someone wearing a Marine Corps insignia?" 4. President Bill Clinton. Crime: International terrorism. "Osama bin Laden made the FBI's list for killing 224 people in embassy bombings -- yet Clinton has killed literally thousands of innocent civilians during his undeclared and unconstitutional war in Yugoslavia," said Dasbach. "That kind of mass murder of innocents should not go unpunished by a civilized nation." 5. Former NHTSA director Joan Claybrook. Crime: Accessory to murder. "As head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in the 1970s, Claybrook forced automakers to install air bags, many of which have malfunctioned and exploded, killing 115 people," said Dasbach. "If Death-by-Regulation isn't a crime, it should be -- and Claybrook should be the first person prosecuted." 6. Social Security Commissioner Kenneth S. Apfel. Crime: Investment fraud. "If an ordinary American did what Apfel and his Social Security co-conspirators do -- run a retirement program where the only assets are billions of dollars of IOUs -- they would be in jail faster than you can yell 'AARP!' " said Dasbach. "Why is the government's Ponzi Scheme, where new investors are paid with money from old investors, not shut down like any other criminal pyramid scheme would be?" 7. Attorney General Janet Reno. Crime: Conspiracy to commit murder. "Not even the Mafia would do what Janet Reno ordered done on April 19, 1993: Assault a religious compound with tanks, military helicopters, and poison gas," said Dasbach. "Yet that's what happened in Waco, Texas -- killing 69 men, women, and children. Son of Sam is in jail for committing serial murder: Why isn't Janet Reno?" 8. FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi. Crime: Murder. "In 1992, Horiuchi used a high-powered rifle to assassinate Vicki Weaver in Ruby Ridge, Idaho, as she stood in her kitchen holding her 11-month-old infant daughter," said Dasbach. "You may not like the political views of her husband, white separatist Randy Weaver, but that shouldn't have given government employees the right to declare open season on his family." 9. Drug czar Barry McCaffrey. Crime: Kidnapping, false imprisonment. "Under McCaffrey's direction, 695,200 people were arrested in 1997 for marijuana offenses, 87% of whom were accused of mere possession," noted Dasbach. "For this victimless crime, these people were arrested at gunpoint, dumped into jail cells, and deprived of
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Stopforth, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] christians give christianity a bad name. religion is no excuse for bad taste. chris Humans give everything a bad name, simply because we're not perfect. Religion sucks, Christianity wasn't intended to be a "religion," some- thing you do on the weekends, (weekend warriors as they call them). It's an everyday relationship with the Lord. Let's move on now. Which 'lord'? Humans have so many... The only True Lord, Jesus Christ. Sure humans have many, but they're also deceived according to the Bible. Oh, Jehovah isn't 'lord'? D'a mean the loving lord, the wrathful lord, the lord that urged Israelites to commit genocide, the lord that sent the serpent to trick Man and Woman? Or is Allah lord? If you claim to follow Yeshua, do you follow his words, or the words of Saul/Paul, the torturer and death-squad leader who invented Xianity and who? Like I said, humans have many lords. And which 'bible'? Xians have so many... Which Xian conspiracy do you support? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.
-Caveat Lector- Let me address some of your false conclusions as follows nurev: (and let's dispense with the puerile value judgements, "You get a little self serving here don't you buddy?" ) [Without competition to balance greed, the system is sold under false pretenses.] the system is sold under false pretenses? Utter nonsense! competition in no way balances greed, indeed competition is the result of greed and is its active force in commerce. [Adam Smith who made the case that with competition the system benefits all, and, without competition we are simply destined for some form of slavery. Smith made clear that without competition the system is merely an oinkfest for oinkers and wanabe oinkers. He didn't much like businessmen. He saw them as greedy, conspiratorial, and obsessed with money. Some things never change.] Adam Smith, that racist communist, read Anton Chaitkins Treason in America from Aaron Burr to Averall Harriman, for a detail treatment on the heretical pronouncement this fool made and how his writings have became a tool to propagandize the opposite of what he seems to stand for, the statement above is a non-sequiter, that doesn't address the what the relationship between competition and business. As for businessman being greedy, conspiratorial, and obsessed with money, indeed some are, but as with most generalized statements it is patently wrong. There has always been that breed of merchantislist (which is who Adam Smith was addressing here who sought to out right monopolies everything.) [No??? Why no? Does this make capitalism good?] There needs to be a distinction between an aspect or attribute of capitalism and its core tenets. Monopolies are not capitalism but are a feature of it in the global economy, there are private as well as governmental monopolies. The most obvious and glaring example of monopolist action which stifles innovation is the electric utility industry which is on the verge of technological obsolescence, which is raking up enormous profits while actively suppressing innovation.go figure. [ Wrong. Sheer greed has ALWAYS been the driver of capitalism.] bullocks, bullshit, balderdash, complete sheer and utter crap. Greed is not the driver of capitalism, you would impute that wealth formation is an evil activity, it is only is when the rights of others are violated in its acquisition.Wealth is good and desirable. However most people including yourself it seems confuse wealth with mal intent. Obviously, wealth has been use to cartelize the world economy, it has been use to prohibit the free exchange of ideas to other nations, it has been use to subjugate and use the common and natural resource for a foreign gain. Is wealth or its formation a bad thing. I say no a thousand times. Remember it is the love of money, and not money itself which is the root of all evil. [That's right. Pet rocks, hair in a can, minimum wages, externalization of costs, and a petroleum based automotive industry 100 years old which will not change as long as capitalists have the oligopoly in the oil industry. That's innovation baby. What % of innovations are really advances for humanity? I don't know. Vare to guess?] The fact that we can communicate our ideas is an advance. Pet rocks, hair in a can? Who gives a fuck? (you're more intelligent than that: aren't you).minimum wages, yadda, yadda yadda, features of some capitalist, not capitalism. Let me clear the cobwebs from your understanding. The computer industry alone, is responsible for a great deal of innovation and material benefit.% wise, who knows, why ask a question you can't yourself quantify, unless you are speaking rhetorically? [ I am assuming here that folks agree that monopoly is a baaad thing.] Absolutely categorically agree with you. [What bullshit! People don't eat information. You get a little self-serving here don't you buddy? The internet has promise in several areas, none of which are necessary for sustaining life.] Did I say people eat information? What a fantastic leap in logic you've accomplished. I sorry you can't understand what is patently understandable. People thrive on information, data and intelligence, yes it is necessary to life, schools, training institutes and news agencies, the government (unfortunately the largest producer of information), businesses; media, entertainment all feed an open mind. It is the driver for wealth acquisition. If I know something then I am in a position to act on it. This fact was known a long time ago. Remember man shall not live by bread alone but every word that proceedith out of the mouth of God. Jeffrey C Hearon Founder CEO SCIO-LTD http://www.scio-ltd.net http://www.scio-ltd.com http://www.scio-ltd.org - Original Message - From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Revising
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990610b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No screams of the damned were heard during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China's secret manned spacecraft revealed. (BBC) Pictures of the secret rocket and space capsule that China will use to put a man in space have been revealed on the Internet. It is a serious lapse of the high security surrounding China's plans to put a man into space. Spying on China: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_365000/365934.stm # Also: China to test 'space shuttle' in October: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_342000/342936.stm # Chinese manned spaceflight probable: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_286000/286931.stm @ Links: China Space Shuttle: http://www.usembassy-china.org.cn/english/sandt/prcspace.html @ Dragon in Space: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/1921/ : Would you rather go into orbit atop a US, Euro, Russian or Chinese rocket? Who'll have better food, sexier stewardesses, higher tech, tighter security? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Japan delays launch of lunar probe. TOKYO (AP) The launch of Japan's first lunar probe will be delayed for at least three years because of defective equipment. The launch of the Lunar-A - originally planned for the summer of 1997 - had already been postponed twice by the Institute of Space and Astro- nautical Science due to mechanical problems. Sensors cracked, destroying measurement circuits and making it impossible to collect some data. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559868142-008 : D'ya prefer Chinese, Japanese, Western spacecraft? Are aliens, Americans, Armenians zapping the Japanese space effort? Who benefits if Japan fails? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FEDS BATTEN DOWN THE ONLINE HATCHES. A growing wave of hacker attacks on federal World Wide Web sites, including an attack that resulted in the FBI shutting down its site for more than a week, has raised agencies' awareness of their vulnerabilities and spurred efforts to increase their online secu- rity. As a result, agencies recently have upgraded their security products, set new security policies and changed systems' architectures to keep one step ahead of hackers. No web system is completely secure, especially yours: http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9906/09/batten.idg/index.html : What gov't agency do you most like to attack? Do you attack the gov't on your own, or at the behest of your masters? How are you rewarded? What else? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Millions at risk from deadly bug. (BBC) 70% of people at risk from the po- tentially fatal pneumococcus bacteria have not been vaccinated against the bug. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_365000/365149.stm # TUBERCULOSIS CASES BALLOON IN RUSSIA, COULD SPREAD. Cases of tuberculosis are increasing in Russia, prompting fears that the disease could spread worldwide, Russian and international health officials said. Nearly 25,000 died last year: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/9906/09/russia.tuberculosis.reut/ # UK Government damps down blood virus fears. (BBC) The Department of Health says there is not enough evidence to screen blood donors for a newly-discovered virus that some scientists have linked to liver disease. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_365000/365234.stm : What's your favorite plague? Will humanity be felled by a plague? Which? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Potential haemophilia cure (BBC) A genetically engineered virus may offer a long-term treatment - or even a cure - for the most common type of haem- ophilia. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_365000/365093.stm # Coffee may prevent gallstones. (BBC) Drinking caffeinated coffee can reduce the chance of painful and dangerous gallstones developing, says a study. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_363000/363860.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Russia rehabilitates dead royals. MOSCOW (AP) - The Russian prosecutor general's office officially rehabilitated four members of the royal Romanov family Wednesday who were executed by the Bolsheviks after the Russian rev- olution. The posthumous rehabilitation was extended to Grand Prince Pavel Alexandrovich, a son of Czar Alexander II, and grand princes Nikolai Mik- hailovich, Georgy Mikhailovich and Dmitry Konstantinovich, nephews of the czar. The princes were declared enemies of the state and executed in the Peter and Paul Fortress in St. Petersburg Jan. 24, 1919. Safely dead: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559864041-ff7 : Does this clear the way for the restoration of monarchy in Russia? Will the Imperial banners fly again? Will other royals regain power? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # House again bans abortion pills - US Congress favors
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-Caveat Lector- Man, I don't think it's any more possible to get farther from the truth... Twist Christian ideals to support whatever it is you trying to do here. It's been done before, you're not the first. Jamie Oh, Jehovah isn't 'lord'? D'a mean the loving lord, the wrathful lord, the lord that urged Israelites to commit genocide, the lord that sent the serpent to trick Man and Woman? Or is Allah lord? If you claim to follow Yeshua, do you follow his words, or the words of Saul/Paul, the torturer and death-squad leader who invented Xianity and who? Like I said, humans have many lords. And which 'bible'? Xians have so many... Which Xian conspiracy do you support? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Mumia college invitation criticized]
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Gooo Evergreen! I don't know why Tom DeLay has his panties in a twist. In Texas they don't bother to convict most of them, and even when they do, they let them out to add to their list. Apparently there are a lot of people in this country who aren't really up on the Abu-Jamal matter. If Officer Faulkner's widow believes Abu-Jamal is her husband's killer, she is part of a very small minority. Prudy Actually, Prudy, I *do* think Mumia did it. Did he get a fair trial? Hey--this is Philadelphia! Of *course* he didn't. The judge made some bad mistakes, the DA was obnoxiously racist...but that doesn't mean Mumia is innocent. This is one of the messiest cases ever to come down the pike. Mumia was a fair-to-middling radio journalist who fell into the trap of mixing too much commentary in with his reporting. Finally he got tangled up with Move, and that means automatically that the deck was stacked against him. IMHO, he was, and is, a cop-hater; he was, and is, entirely capable of killing a policeman because, and only because, that person was a cop. Does he deserve the death penalty? No. *Nobody* deserves the death penalty. Does he deserve a new, genuinely fair trial? Of course--the earlier trials were travesties. Do I think a new, fair trial would convict him again? You bet your, uh, bippy... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Mumia college invitation criticized]
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Actually, Prudy, I *do* think Mumia did it. Did he get a fair trial? Hey--this is Philadelphia! Of *course* he didn't. The judge made some bad mistakes, the DA was obnoxiously racist...but that doesn't mean Mumia is innocent. This is one of the messiest cases ever to come down the pike. Mumia was a fair-to-middling radio journalist who fell into the trap of mixing too much commentary in with his reporting. Finally he got tangled up with Move, and that means automatically that the deck was stacked against him. IMHO, he was, and is, a cop-hater; he was, and is, entirely capable of killing a policeman because, and only because, that person was a cop. Does he deserve the death penalty? No. *Nobody* deserves the death penalty. Does he deserve a new, genuinely fair trial? Of course--the earlier trials were travesties. Do I think a new, fair trial would convict him again? You bet your, uh, bippy... Bob does he express extensive conviction without knowledge of the facts? is he as guilty as the kangaroo court that convicts innocent men on the basis of not liking his ideas? is his post as irrelevant as the quality of the lack of thought expressed? you bet your sweet bobbing a**. wat to go BOBB!!! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]]
-Caveat Lector- nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- "Christianity is a fine religion. A shame Christians have never PRACTICED it." Christianity is impossible to practice as advertised. This is a problem for Christians and everyone else who lives with them on this planet. A more reality based religion would have served Christians better. Joshua2 A lot of the problem is that the New Testament doesn't contain anything like a complete set of instructions for being a Christian. It contains a hodge-podge of notes, memoirs, and letters, not to mention a totally confused book of religious science fiction. The Gospels are artificial constructs, based partly on a collection of the sayings of Jesus and partly on much later liturgy. The letters of Paul and the others deal for the most part with very specific problems at very specific times and places, and are only marginally relevant to the present day. The real core of the teachings appears, from hints in patristic writings, to have been passed *orally* to catechists; this secret teaching died out during the persecutions or was subtly altered to fit the new political reality as the underground movement became a church and then *the* Church. Now, with that said, the New Testament is still a deep, vibrant, challenging source of inspiration and wisdom. I honestly find something new in it each time I read it. But it just isn't an operating manual, and you will make a very great mistake if you try to turn it into one. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]]
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not to beat a dead fish, but I revel in quoting Matthew 7:20-27 (NIV) to "Christians": "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. "Many will say to me on [judgment] day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in thy name, and in your name drive out demons, and perform many miracles?' "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" That's Jesus Christ talking to CHRISTIANS, please note. If you want to take "The Word of God" LITERALLY, there'll be only 144,000 saved at Endtime. Let's do the math. That's only 72 new "good" people WORLDWIDE for each of Christianity's 2000 years. Since Constantine made Christianity the official religion of what became Western Civilization, there's probably been literally BILLIONS of nominal Christians -- certainly MILLIONS now. So, the odds are ASTRONOMICAL that EVERY self-professed "CHRISTIAN" we've ever known or heard of is GOING TO HELL, right alongside unabashed Satanists ... To quote the PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA, "The Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclusively for them that believe in it. Further, the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it on the supposition that they'll go there if they don't. HBT; The Gospel According to Fred, 3:1" I *refuse* to contradict the Gospel According to Fred. Hail Eris! Frater Fritterus, Q.W.E.R.T.Y.U.I.O.P. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Mumia college invitation criticized]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/10/1999 1:18:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No. *Nobody* deserves the death penalty. Does he deserve a new, genuinely fair trial? Of course--the earlier trials were travesties. Do I think a new, fair trial would convict him again? You bet your, uh, bippy.. Maybe, but it would be nice to hear the rest of the story and find out the bullet in the policeman matched the gun Jamal was carrying. To top it all off, why the big silencing. I thought the students at Temple were old enough to hear his comments. It was Big Brother Tom Ridge and the Fraternal Order of Police that sat on that one. Of course Temple knuckled, which let's us know just what state and State they're in. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NASA SCIENTISTS PREPARE NEW YORK CITY FOR FUTURE CLIMATE CHANGE
-Caveat Lector- ftp://pao.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/PAO/Releases/1999/99-065.htm Cynthia OCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phone: 301-614-5563)/Pager: 1-888-474-0898 June 4, 1999 RELEASE NO: 99-065 SCIENTISTS PREPARE NEW YORK CITY FOR FUTURE CLIMATE CHANGE Scientists and government agencies in New York City have joined forces to meet the challenges climate change is expected to have on the city. Cynthia Rosenzweig, a researcher at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, will present the early results of a landmark study Friday June 4, at the American Geophysical Union meeting in Boston, Mass. Rosenzweig's study, Climate Change and a Global City: an Assessment of the Metropolitan East Coast Region, is part of the U.S. National Assessment on the Potential Consequences of Climate Variability and Change. The project is sponsored by several federal agencies including NASA and seeks to prepare New York City's metropolitan area for future climate change challenges by pairing scientists with local governments. Rosenzweig says that city agencies will be able to make decisions based on current information from the study to help mitigate future problems with aging roads, public health, coastal erosion, water supply and wetlands. "Climate change in urban areas is understudied, and it is amazing to me how complex the metropolitan area is," says Rosenzweig. "We are looking at how people, place and decision mechanisms of the city respond to climate change and variability as well as to each other." One of the advantages of the project is that cities receive scientific analysis directly from the research teams and can use the information to take action. For example, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is working with sea-level change scientists to estimate future beach erosion rates due to sea-level rise. This information can be used to predict conditions, such as coastal storms, that would speed up erosion rates and to plan effective strategies to protect the shore. Sea-level rise is eroding the shoreline of New York and also is predicted to raise the salt level in the city's fresh water supply. New York City public water supply planners and hydrologists have found that changes in the salt front, which is where water salinity levels off the shore reach 100 milligrams per liter, will affect the fresh water supply. The team found that the salt front could extend up the Hudson River and be detrimental to the city's water supply. Wetland conservation is another issue studied by this project. By analyzing aerial photography and remotely-sensed data, land surface scientists and city planners are able to see the changes in New York's wetlands over the past 20 years. The information can help project whether wetland areas will grow or shrink due to climate changes and develop policies and preservation practices to protect New York's wetlands. Another team consisting of climate researchers and the New York City Department of Health is investigating the impacts of climate change on asthma patients. The team evaluates the current state of the atmosphere and will predict how future air quality will affect asthma suffers, according to Rosenzweig. Climate researchers also are working closely with city planners to investigate the influence of the "urban heat island" effect on the city, which occurs because asphalt and concrete absorb and retain more heat than vegetation, causing cities to be warmer than surrounding areas. This warming causes an increase in smog, which contributes to asthma and other respiratory problems. The National Assessment consists of 20 regional projects that identify future challenges due to climate change. The regional projects focus on agriculture, coastal areas and marine resources, forests, human health and water resources. The regional reports will include results from research conducted between 1997 through 2000, but the projects are seen as ongoing studies. A national synthesis will compile results from the next 25-30 years and also over the next 100 years. Rosenzweig is the Co-Regional Assessment Contact for the Metropolitan East Coast region and is actively involved in the research being conducted by this project. The National Assessment is unique because it couples scientists with government agencies that have the authority to act on the research results. This project focuses on potential climate changes and the impacts on the 31-county region that comprises the New York City metropolitan area. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]]
-Caveat Lector- The 144,000 are the Jews that are left behind after the Rapture of the Church. Revelation is clearly speaking of the 12 tribes of Israel as it even names each one. [Rev 7:4] And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. [Rev 7:5] Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. [Rev 7:6] Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. [Rev 7:7] Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. [Rev 7:8] Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. Now you do the math. 12*12=144 now just add the three 0's and there you have it. So, 144,000 aren't the only people going to heaven as you thought... Jamie Not to beat a dead fish, but I revel in quoting Matthew 7:20-27 (NIV) to "Christians": "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. "Many will say to me on [judgment] day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in thy name, and in your name drive out demons, and perform many miracles?' "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" That's Jesus Christ talking to CHRISTIANS, please note. If you want to take "The Word of God" LITERALLY, there'll be only 144,000 saved at Endtime. Let's do the math. That's only 72 new "good" people WORLDWIDE for each of Christianity's 2000 years. Since Constantine made Christianity the official religion of what became Western Civilization, there's probably been literally BILLIONS of nominal Christians -- certainly MILLIONS now. So, the odds are ASTRONOMICAL that EVERY self-professed "CHRISTIAN" we've ever known or heard of is GOING TO HELL, right alongside unabashed Satanists ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Denver Airport Pictures....]
-Caveat Lector- "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- This was posted to the list a few months back and I thought I'd repost the sight as I thought it was pretty interesting. http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html Jamie FWIW, I'll be visiting Denver in a couple of weeks and will pay close attention to the airport to get the feeling of the place. I'll also ask my relatives in the city whether they've heard anything about it that would either verify or contradict the stories that have been posted here and elsewhere. As of now I am somewhat doubtful about the NWO connection, but we shall see... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Denver Airport Pictures....]
-Caveat Lector- Cool man! Be sure and take a camera. Just in case! Jamie -Original Message- From: Robert Tatman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Denver Airport Pictures] -Caveat Lector- "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- This was posted to the list a few months back and I thought I'd repost the sight as I thought it was pretty interesting. http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html Jamie FWIW, I'll be visiting Denver in a couple of weeks and will pay close attention to the airport to get the feeling of the place. I'll also ask my relatives in the city whether they've heard anything about it that would either verify or contradict the stories that have been posted here and elsewhere. As of now I am somewhat doubtful about the NWO connection, but we shall see... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.
-Caveat Lector- This piece alone deserves posting: nurev wrote to SCIO-LTD: [The internet has promise in several areas, none of which are necessary for sustaining life.] Think again. Digital Society Internet Whacks $2 Billion Off Merrill Lynch by Clay Shirky THE INTERNET HAPPENED to Merrill Lynch last week, and it cost them a couple billion dollars -- when Merrill announced its plans to open an online brokerage after years of deriding the idea, its stock price promptly fell by a tenth, wiping out $2 billion in its market capitalization. The internet's been happening like that to a lot of companies lately -- Barnes and Noble's internet stock is well below its recent launch price, Barry Diller's company had to drop its Lycos acquisition because of damage to the stock prices of both companies, and both Borders and Compaq dumped their CEOs after it became clear that they were losing internet market share. In all of these cases, those involved learned the hard way that the internet is a destroyer of net value for traditional businesses because the internet economy is fundamentally at odds with the market for internet stocks. The internet that the stock market has been so in love with (call it the "Pretend Internet" for short) is all upside -- it enables companies to cut costs and compete without respect to geography. The internet that affects the way existing goods and services are sold, on the other hand (call it the "Real Internet"), forces companies to cut profit margins, and exposes them to competitors without respect to geography. On the Pretend Internet, new products will pave the way for enormous profitability arising from unspecified revenue streams. Meanwhile, on the Real Internet, prices have fallen and they can't get up. There is a rift here, and its fault line appears wherever offline companies like Merrill tie their stock to their internet offerings. Merrill currently pockets a hundred bucks every time it executes a trade, and when investors see that Merrill online is only charging $30 a trade, they see a serious loss of revenue. When they go on to notice that $30 is something like three times the going rate for an internet stock trade, they see more than loss of revenue, they see loss of value. When a company can cut its prices 70% and still be three times as expensive as its competitors, something has to give. Usually that is the company's stock price. The internet is the locus of the future economy, and its effect is the wholesale transfer of information and choice (read: power and leverage) from producer to consumer. Producers (and the stock market) prefer one-of-a-kind businesses who can force their customers to accept continual price increases for the same products. Consumers, on the other hand, prefer commodity businesses where prices start low and keep falling. On the internet, consumers have the upper hand, and as a result, anybody who profited from offline inefficiencies -- it used to be hard work to distribute new information to thousands of people every day, for example -- are going to see much of their revenue destroyed with no immediate replacement in sight. This is not to say that the internet produces no new value -- on the contrary, it produces enormous value every day. Its just that most of the value is concentrated in the hands of the consumer. Every time someone uses the net to shop on price (cars, plane tickets, computers, stock trades) the money they didn't spend is now available for other things. The economy grows even as profit margins shrink. In the end, this is what Merrill's missing market cap tells us -- the internet is now a necessity, but there's no way to use the internet without embracing consumer power, and any business which profits from inefficiency is going to find this embrace more constricting than comforting. The effects of easy price comparison and global reach are going to wring inefficiency (read: profits) out of the economy like a damp dishrag, and as the market comes to terms with this equation between consumer power and lower profit margins, $2 billion of missing value is going to seem like a drop in the bucket. Clay Shirky is Professor of New Media at Hunter College. Feed Magazine, June 8, 1999 Jeffrey C Hearon Founder CEO SCIO-LTD http://www.scio-ltd.net http://www.scio-ltd.com http://www.scio-ltd.org +1.917.553.7217 - Original Message - From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 10:52 AM Subject: [CTRL] OEN 6/10/99 -Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From The Outsider by Colin Wilson They are all asleep. This is the point to which Gurdjieff returns again and again. They must be made to feel the urgency of the need to wake up. And after the legend of the magician, to call the mass of contented
[CTRL] Armadillo
-Caveat Lector- From www.sfgate.com Picture: The Gate www.sfgate.comReturn to regular view Hidden danger of armadillo meat By Michael Dougan OF THE EXAMINER STAFF Thursday, June 10, 1999 ©1999 San Francisco Examiner URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stori es/10/armadillos.dtl Armadillos are in San Francisco, and that could pose a problem: It's the leprosy thing. Unlike killer bees and fire ants, expanding their territories in this direction, these carapaced critters arrive in The City as carcasses-on-ice. Typically found in such states as Texas, Louisiana and Oklahoma, they are turning up in Chinatown food stores, waiting for an adventurous gourmet to take out his or her wallet and surprise the family come dinner time. City health officials have learned what every Texas school kid already knows: Armadillos, like humans, can contract leprosy. Also called Hansen's disease, leprosy is a progressive disease that causes hideous deformations (go rent "Ben Hur"), though it is now treatable and less prone to scar those who have it. The potential danger of dining on 'dillos was to be discussed Thursday at a San Francisco Animal Control and Welfare Commission meeting. Who eats armadillos? "Aggies, mostly," said Texas biologist Jerry Cook, in a wry reference to students at Texas AM. Calling college students "Aggies" is not yet a hate crime in the Lone Star State. Armadillos in Chinatown A tour of Chinatown Wednesday failed to find any armadillos on display, but a Chinese-speaking reporter discovered two in the freezer at the New Sang Sang Market on Stockton Street. Employees declined to be interviewed, but many passersby stopped to examine one of the frozen beasts after it had been purchased and removed from the bag on the sidewalk outside. (At $5.99 a pound, this armadillo cost $37.50.) Some shoppers said they had eaten armadillo in Hong Kong and China. They said it was mostly used in soup. Several Chinatown butchers said they had carried armadillo in the past, but stopped because they were under the impression it had been banned. It has not. The leprosy link What is the connection between armadillos and leprosy? "I know that they are susceptible to it, and I know they are used as a laboratory animal in studying the disease," said Cook. "But there's a long distance between susceptibility and carrying." Can leprosy be transmitted from armadillos to humans? "The only studies that have been done suggest that people who handle armadillos - wildlife biologists or people who trap them - have a slightly higher rate of leprosy than people who have never been exposed to armadillos," said Jane Mahlow, a physician with the Texas Department of Health. "The supposition is that people can catch it from armadillos, although it's never been definitively proven." A separate study determined that a higher percentage of leprosy patients in Los Angeles had been exposed to armadillos than those in a control group, said Robert Gelbert, a clinical professor at UC-San Francisco. Gelbert has spent most of his life studying leprosy for the U.S. Public Health Service. "No one believes that armadillos are a major source of transmission of leprosy," he said. "It spreads from person to person by nasal droplets, perhaps it gets into the soil or what have you. But armadillos could play a role." City on armadillo alert City health officials are combing Chinatown markets and restaurants to find out how much armadillo meat is being sold in The City and where it comes from, said Ben Gayle of the Health Department staff. Health officials will present their findings at Thursday's Animal Control and Welfare Commission meeting. "I don't know that it's confined to the Chinatown community, but that's where we got our first lead from," Gayle said. Richard Schulke, chairman of the commission, said the objective was not to ban sales of armadillo meat, but to make sure it came from a source that screened the meat for leprosy. That, said Gelbert, would require a liver biopsy of each animal. "I want to make sure that my stuff is clean," said Tina Hayslip, owner of Sooner Aquatic Foods outside Hugo, Okla., and purveyor of armadillo meat to Chinatown markets. "I cut the guts out and wash them and freeze them real good. We have no "road kill' or anything like that." Hayslip, who gets her armadillos from local trappers and sells some 100 pounds of meat a week during peak season, said she didn't specifically screen for leprosy, nor does she worry about it much. Hayslip said she handled the dead animals without fear of contracting the disease. "You know that if it comes from Sooner Aquatic, it's going to be good stuff," said Hayslip, whose primary business is selling live hard-shell and soft-shell turtles, also to Chinatown distributors. After spending a day gutting armadillos, Hayslip
[CTRL] EC, aux Americains
-Caveat Lector- From WorldNetDaily -- -- Picture: WND Exclusive Commentary -- -- Ethnic cleansing, American-style -- -- By James Bovard © 1999 James Bovard The United States is intervening in a civil war in Yugoslavia. President Clinton and other western leaders have justified the NATO bombing by the brutal crackdowns that Serbian forces conducted on Kosovar Albanian rebels and civilians. However, prior to the onset of NATO bombing, the actions of the Serbian forces may have been less abusive than were the actions of the northern armies during our own Civil War. Once the NATO bombing began, Serbian persecution and NATO bombs provoked a massive exodus from Kosovo. In order to put the Yugoslavian civil war in perspective, it is helpful to recall the brutality of our own federal government during the War Between the States. The American Civil War did not involve ethnic cleansing, per se. But the attitude of some of the northern commanders paralleled those of the Serbian commanders more than many contemporary Americans would like to admit. The tens of thousands of southern civilian casualties during the war were no accident. In a Sept. 17, 1863 letter that Union General, William Tecumseh Sherman, wrote to the general in chief of the Union Armies: "The United States has the right, and ... the ... power, to penetrate to every part of the national domain. ... We will remove and destroy every obstacle -- if need be, take every life, every acre of land, every particle of property, everything that to us seems proper." Halleck liked Sherman's letter so much that he passed it on to President Lincoln, who declared that it should be published. On June 21, 1864, before his bloody March to the Sea, Sherman wrote to the secretary of war, "There is a class of people [in the South] men, women, and children, who must be killed or banished before you can hope for peace and order." A few months later, Sherman informed one of his subordinates, "I am satisfied ... that the problem of this war consists in the awful fact that the present class of men who rule the South must be killed outright rather than in the conquest of territory, so that hard, bull-dog fighting, and a great deal of it, yet remains to be done. ... Therefore, I shall expect you on any and all occasions to make bloody results." On Sept. 27, 1864, Sherman wrote to Gen. John Hood, the confederate commander of the Army of Tennessee, and announced that "I have deemed it to the interest of the United States that the citizens now residing in Atlanta should remove, those who prefer it to go south and the rest North." Sherman's comments could have been a model for the Serbian leaders who drove ethnic Albanians out of Kosovo. On Oct. 9, 1864, Sherman wrote to Gen. Ulysses S. Grant, "Until we can repopulate Georgia, it is useless to occupy it, but the utter destruction of its roads, houses, and people will cripple their military resources. ... I can make the march, and make Georgia howl." Scorched-earth tactics were also used in the Shenandoah Valley in 1864-65. On Sept. 28, 1864, Gen. Phil Sheridan ordered one of his commanders to "leave the Valley a barren waste." Gen. Grant ordered Union troops to "make all the valleys south of the Baltimore and Ohio railroad a desert as high up as possible ... eat out Virginia clear and clean ... so that crows flying over it for the balance of the season will have to carry their provender with them." Union General, Wesley Merritt, proudly reported to Sheridan on Dec. 3, 1864 that "the destruction in the valley, and in the mountains bounding it, was most complete." Many Union officers were horrified at the wanton destruction their armies inflicted on the South. On March 8, 1865, Gen. Cyrus Bussey reported: "There are several thousand families within the limits of this command who are related to and dependent on the Arkansas soldiers in our service. These people have nearly all been robbed of everything they had by the troops of this command, and are now left destitute and compelled to leave their homes to avoid starvation. ... In most instances everything has been taken and no receipts given, the people turned out to starve, and their effects loaded into trains and sent to Kansas." The source of the preceding quotes is The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies (128 volumes published by the Government Printing Office). Thomas Bland Keys compiled some of the most shocking comments in his excellent 1991 book, "Uncivil War: Union Army and Navy Excesses in the Official Records," published by the Beauvoir Press in Biloxi, Miss. Some northern leaders claimed to be deeply concerned about
[CTRL] [Fwd: [MC] The Devil Seekers; Chapter 16; Journey Into Madness]
For Colleen - Sybil Leek is mentioned Page 274-275 (Author, Gordon Thomas) KK's Comments: Was this part of MKULTRA, Sub 94a? - - - Start Quote from Journey Into Madness, Chapter 16 - - - - - - - - - - - - By early 1972, Operation Often had taken on two more palmists, both Chinese-Americans, to probe still further how hand-reading could be adapted to intelligence work. The Agency behaviorists already knew that different cultures produced varying personalities. Each society had a particular vision of masculinity and femininity, of rights and obligations. The question the palmists were asked to answer was how much of this could be discerned from palm lines. The hand-readers set to work. Posing as educational psychologists, they visited a number of ethnically variable communities, traveling north to Alaska to study Eskimos and south to New Mexico to look at the hands of Indians. While they were about their business, Operation Often went deeper, into demonology. In April 1972, an oblique approach was made to the monsignor in charge of exorcisms for the Catholic archdiocese of New York. He flatly refused to cooperate. Undaunted, the Agency behaviorists approached Sybil Leek, a Houston sorceress, who cast spells with the help of a pet jackdaw called Hotfoot Jackson. With the bird perched on her shoulders, Mrs. Leek gave the "two very nice gen'l'men" from Washington a fast course on the current state of black magic in the United States; four hundred regular covens operated by five thousand initiated witches and warlocks, who formed the low-profile apex of a prediction industry that supported 10,000 full-time fortune-tellers and 200,000 part-timers, as well as a growing publishing business in tarot cards and factories that produced a widening range of anti-Christian tokens. Satan was not only alive, but thriving in the United States. To corner him for the Agency, it was recognized at Langley that the Devil must be made respectable. Working through conduits, the Scientific Engineering Institute helped fund a course in sorcery at the University of South Carolina. Two hundred and fifty students enrolled. The scientists of Operation Often studied carefully the results of classes devoted to fertility and initiation rites and raising the dead. Concurrent with those investigations, ORD had taken up the challenge of brain implants. The failure at the Bien Hoa Hospital in Saigon (KK's comments: I will post more on this from the book as I have time) was rationalized: the team had been in too much of a hurry, and had worked under far from ideal conditions; the proximity of a full-scale war was not the place for such delicate experiments. Before setting up their own program, the ORD scientists evaluated the results achieved by Dr. Jose Delgado, a Yale psychologist. He had faced a charging bull, fitted with electrodes in its brain, and with no other protection save the small black box in his hands, Dr. Delgado had deliberately goaded the bull by activating the implant that provoked the animal to become further enraged. Then, with the bull almost upon him, the psychologist had pressed another button. The animal promptly stopped in its tracks, the result of a signal transmitted to the electrode implanted in the part of the bull's brain that calmed it. Dr. Delgado freely admitted that his method of remote mind control was still crude and not always predictable. But Dr. Gottlieb and the behaviorists of ORD shared the psychologist's vision that the day must come when the technique would be perfected for making not only animals, but humans respond to electrically transmitted commands. Dr. Robert G. Heath, a neurosurgeon at Tulane University, had brought that prospect closer through his experiments with electrical stimulation of the brain (ESB) to arouse his patients sexually. Dr. Heath had actually implanted 125 electrodes in the brain and body of a single patient - for which he claimed a world record - and had spent hours stimulating the man's pleasure centers. Like Dr. Delgado, the neurosurgeon concluded that ESB could control memory, impulses, feelings, and could evoke hallucinations as well as fear and pleasure. It could literally manipulate the human will - at will. Late in June 1972, Dr. Gottlieb had jigged back and forth on the carpet of the director's office, and his carefully controlled stammer had surfaced as he enthused that at long, long last, here was the answer to mind control, that ESB was the key to creating not only a psychocivilized person but an entire psychocivilized society - a world where every human thought, emotion, sensation, and desire could be actually controlled by electrical stimulation of the brain. - - - - - - - - End of Quote from Journey Into Madness - - - - - - - - - ** MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-06-10 15:46:11 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 144,000 are the Jews that are left behind after the Rapture of the Church. Revelation is clearly speaking of the 12 tribes of Israel as it even names each one. snip quote So, 144,000 aren't the only people going to heaven as you thought.. All or nearly all all the early Christians were Jews, and the "lost sheep" Jesus was sent to regather were the "lost" tribes of Israel, i.e., Greek-speaking Jews of the Diaspora. Never mind the fact that by Jesus' time, when this was written, no Jew knew any longer from which "tribe" he or she was descended, except for certain clans within the tribe of Judah, the house of Levi, and a few from "Benjamin" (like Josephus and Paul). There has probably been quite a substantial number of gentile Christians throughout history whose ancestors were "of" the various "lost" tribes. Israelite by inheritance, Christian by religion. So the explanation here is really beside the point. There are several other objections to this line of argument, but, as you suggest by saying phrase "add a thousand," the whole passage and the "sacred numbers" given in it are purely SYMBOLIC, not LITERAL. (Unless you want to "believe" otherwise ...) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) VOICE OF THE GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-06-09-A
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:01:56 EDT Subject:VOICE OF THE GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-06-09-A To: undisclosed-recipients:; **KOSOVO: ALLIED FORCE DAY 77** ** VOICE OF THE GRUNT ** ** 09 June 1999 ** * (To stop getting this newsletter, click the "reply" box, put UNSUB or DELETE in the Subject line, and hit "send." If your address is NOT in our mailing list, a third party is "redirecting" you a copy ~ which we have no control over, are not responsible for, and have no way to remove.) TABLE OF CONTENTS ARTICLES Hack's Column Defang The KLA Or Face The Consequences Tomorrow 1 Mac Notes 2 From The Field: SPECIAL REPORT: SAS Commando 3 A Drastic ChangeI'm Appalled 4 PAX Americana 5 A Question Of Respect 6 Why I'm Leaving Active Duty7 Letter To Madam Justice Louise Arbour 8 Medal of Honor: Donlon, Roger Hugh C, Capt. USA, Special Forces9 Team A-726, Near Nam Dong, RVN, 6 July 1964 Commentary: NATO's Lengthening List Of Blunders10 No Humor This Week == ARTICLE 1 ~~~ DEFANG THE KLA TODAY OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES TOMORROW ~~~ By David H. Hackworth, 8 June 1999 Some of the same Whiz Kids who helped put our country into the Serbian frying pan are continuing to spin out harebrained schemes, trying to improve on their burnt offering. Sources say these Ivy college airheads are now chewing on the idea that the United States should quietly train, arm and equip the Kosovo Liberation Army. Arming the KLA would be like providing Special Forces demolition training to any remaining members of Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh's terrorist gang. In February 1998, Robert Gelbard, Clinton's envoy for Kosovo, said that the KLA "is, without any questions, a terrorist group." Intelligence folks say Gelbard's assessment is dead on the money. The KLA's leadership and ranks are filled with radicals, Islamic crazies and heavy haters who are as responsible as Milosevic's worst thugs for the catastrophe visited on the tormented people of Yugoslavia. International cops say the KLA includes global drug dealers and arms smugglers who've been in bed with the Albanian Mafia for years. The lawmen report that profits from these shady deals armed the KLA and financed their guerrilla attacks on the Serbian police, military and the residents of Kosovo -- terrorist assaults that along with Serbian brutality certainly helped trigger the shootout in Yugoslavia in the first place. Intelligence reports that some KLA members were trained by international bomber Osama bin Laden's outfit and that radical members of the KLA, which is now trying to pose as a legitimate army, have sworn they'll go down shooting rather than give up their guns. Recently Croatian General Agim Ceku became the head of the KLA. While with the Croatian Army, his killing skills were spiffed up by the U.S. mercenary group Military Professional Resources Inc. -- a rent-an-American-soldier enterprise led by a cash-starved retired U.S. Army four-star general. In 1995, Gen. Ceku was a player in Operation Storm, a covert Clinton-backed and MPRI-trained Croatian military operation that ethnically cleansed 200,000 Serbs from their homes in Croatia, killing thousands of civilians. Since taking over the KLA, Ceku has purged all of its moderates. If a KLA member was a supporter of Ibrahim Rugova, the exiled "president" of Kosovo who for the past decade has pursued a Gandhi-like nonviolence policy in the troubled province, he was toast. Rugova's peaceful approach is not welcomed by a KLA that's into violently overthrowing the Serbia regime in Kosovo. On the Kosovo battlefield, the KLA has been clobbered by the more heavily armed Serbs in every major fight -- even though NATO functioned as its dedicated air force. During the latter phase of the war, the KLA's operations have been reduced to small teams operating as snipers, conducting ambushes and spotting for NATO bombers. These fumbling greenhorns aren't capable of more complex tasks because the KLA is more of a mob than a trained fighting unit. While they have a lot of warm bodies, perhaps as many as 17,000, they have few savvy leaders and their ranks are filled mainly with recruits. Untrained recruits augmented with cutthroats don't make an army. Only well-led, well-trained, well-equipped and well-disciplined soldiers can be molded into
[CTRL] (Fwd) VOICE OF THE GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-06-09-B
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:04:28 EDT Subject:VOICE OF THE GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-06-09-B To: undisclosed-recipients:; VOICE OF THE GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-06-09-B = ARTICLE 6 ~ A QUESTION OF RESPECT ~ SUMMARY: Dr. Nebergall touches upon one of the intangibles of military service -- citizenship. Citizenship confers responsibilities and obligations. To those who choose to raise their right arm and swear an oath of service, perhaps you need to expect more from your civilian leadership. In Robert Heinlein's books, only those who serve their country are allowed to vote. * By Peter J. Nebergall, PhD Not long ago, Madeline Albright, when confronted with the weakened, over-committed, under-equipped condition of our ground forces, facing yet another "peacekeeping" commitment, responded: "They'll do what they're told; they're professionals." I was horrified, by the inhumanity of her statement, by its callous indifference to the citizens who serve, and by its total disregard of history. Perhaps other countries have had such "professionals" as Ms. Albright conjures, a "military class" -- but we are not Prussians, no matter how much she and her master may wish we were. You don't need me to talk to you of inhumanity, or of indifference -- you know what they are. I know too -- so let's look at the "disregard of history." The "Founding Fathers," George Washington and his fellows, had an almost universal distrust of "standing armies," of military professionals dedicated to furthering the sovereign's whimsy. They saw the "citizen soldier" as the backbone of their freedom - - the citizen who is a soldier -- the soldier who is a (fully integrated) citizen -- not the servant of the state but a full member. Admittedly, we are beyond the days of the old militias -- fighting is too complex to just grab the musket -- but we are NOT beyond the days where the Founding Fathers' view has merit. I think we should reflect. Why do you serve? Is it the joy of obedience? Is it delight in furthering the ambitions of your leaders? I think not. I think you serve out of a sense of citizenship, of sharing the responsibility for living where you live and being what you are. You certainly did not take the oath for the power it confers or the riches it brings -- and your choice, like your profession, is worthy of more respect than our current crop of leaders see fit to offer. A leader who respects his (or her!) armed services is less likely to commit them like chessmen to a meaningless, but lethal, gesture where only political brownie points will be gained, and is more willing to weigh the balance, and then commit troops wholeheartedly where it is right and proper. A respectful leader feels the loss of life (ours and theirs both) that is inherent -- for war is not a computer game. A respectful leader has a sense of time and place, and thus does a better job when that time and place arrive. It is indeed a question of respect. ARTICLE 7 ~ WHY I'M LEAVING ACTIVE DUTY ~ SUMMARY: An Air Force officer let us know why he's getting out - The Leadership and politics. It just isn't fun anymore; there's no enjoyment. By USAF Officer After a career as a Navigator, I'm leaving active duty. I can make a list of 20 reasons to stay and 200 reasons to go. Pilots, finance officers, Army aviators, sailors and infantrymen can all make similar lists. For me, though--and I suspect for many others--the driving force behind my decision is this: I hate working for idiots. I don't mean the civilian leadership because they come and go at the whim of an undereducated American public. I refer instead to the senior military "leaders" (I use that word in it's loosest sense). Thirty years from now when historians write about the great leaders of today, they will not profile anyone in the military or politics. They will focus on computer companies, large multinational corporations, and athletes. Yet, if you review a list of great leaders from the 40s, 50s, early 60s, 80s, and early 90s you will see that it full of military men and politicians--and most of the great politicians were former military men. Note that I left out the mid-late 60s and the 70s. The same climate existed then as now, and you've got the same results...abysmal military retention, poor morale, disgust with the political establishment, decaying morals, and a host of other problems that are ripping the heart and soul out of the US military. Then, as now, "ticket-punching" outweighed mission accomplishment; capitulation was preferred to
[CTRL] Nigeria purges military
-Caveat Lector- Thursday, June 10, 1999 Published at 09:08 GMT 10:08 UK Nigeria purges military The new civilian president is purging the military from the top down The new civilian ruler of Nigeria, Olusegun Obasanjo, has launched a widespread purge of the military tainted by 15 years of corrupt rule. About 30 senior military officers have been forcibly retired and the purge is moving into the next echelon of senior officers. Casualties include two former commanders of the West African peacekeeping force in Sierra Leone and Liberia. President Obasanjo is expected to remove officers who held political appointments either as state governors or cabinet ministers in previous regimes, and who may still be ambitious enough to try to seize power. Those affected by the shake-up include Mohammed Abdallah, the former military chief of staff under General Sani Abacha, whose strong-armed rule turned Nigeria into an international pariah and held up democratic reforms until his death 12 months ago. War on corruption The authorities have also seized hundreds of millions of dollars allegedly stolen from the state during General Abacha's rule. Most of Nigeria's revenue was paid into private bank accounts before the return to democracy, and senior members of successive military administrations amassed fortunes amounting to billions of dollars. According to Nigerian state TV, included is the immediate seizure of more than $420m in a petroleum refinery, including $140m held by a former national security official. President Olusegun Obasanjo took office last month saying he wanted a new war on corruption. He replaced the heads of the army, navy and airforce on his first day in office. And within days, the newly-elected civilian president sacked allegedly corrupt customs officials and suspended contracts signed by the previous military government. He also set up a panel to scrutinise all new projects, including lucrative oil concessions. Nigeria has been ruled for all but 10 of the last 29 years by military governments. Nigerian political analyst Ibrahim Adamu said that for the Nigerian military to stick to their constitutional role and keep out of government, a major reorganisation and reorientation is imperative "And the time for Obasanjo to do that is now," he said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_365000/365497.stm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [MC] The Devil Seekers; Chapter 16; Journey Into Madness]
-Caveat Lector- You also read a reference re Sybil in this Kitty Kelly's book on Nancy Reagan; at the time Sybil kept her pet boa constrictor in her state room, to ward off the demons who would attempt to access same. Sybil was a war corresponent, worked for Ian Flemng, helped but charted the route for Hess' escape to Scotland; she knew Alstein Crowley, whom some to this day still believe was a Nazi, when he was counter intelligencejust like Herr Kissinger, who was also KGB Code name BOR, and he is at the least a big bore. What this blackmailer Killy Kelly did not know of course was Sybil was one of Reagans astrologersand it is a code; used as warnings, etcand name games. She wrote 10 best sellers; but in 1980 she told me the publishing houses had all been taken over, at least the major ones including World Publishing who publishes masonic biblesanyway, that the Mafia (which is just black operations of CIA) had control of all five. Have a picture of her with her jackdaw; she was from New Forest, England, knew Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, H.G. Wells when small, astrologer when very young to Queen Maria of Romania (her life long friend was on the lam like Tomlinson before she died.and Tomlinson gets the same treatment, because they know too much of their evil operations). When i had some of the lower degree Masons mad at me - and I mean lower degreesuddenly, I found two M16 calling upon methey were fun, but Sybil was my friend, understood what I had, but also she took a lot of my work without permission, but did try to make it right...before she died, she told me she had sent everything to the Prime Minister, including the copy of the bible code, but she never told me anything I hadnot already guessed. In my library, I have Mackey's books on Freemasonry; in it, is 32 Degree Certificate from my old friend, a former Detective, whereby he knew and ws the Keeper of the Royal Secret - the truth is, if you study Freemasony on the outside, well all will ever get is an educationthre was a time I was told some 20 years later, that some of them wnted to let me in on the bible code stuff, but for some reasn at the top, the answer was no. Like the Irish Hibernians and the Molly McGuires, who served the left hand of God.All the Mollies were Hibernians, but not all the Hibernians, were Mollies. I wish Sybil, my Witch, were still alive; we shared some secrets but I gave a lot more than I got; I just liked working with someone that had been trained by Ian Fleming, the creator of James Bondas I always loved Sean Connery. Lawrence of Arabia at been at her house the day he died in an automobile accident on a motorcycle, as I recall she saidbut she also said he was a "fag"...which was rather strange language, for such a cultured lady. She was brilliant, took on a bigger enemy than she realized, which I think eventually led to her death.and nobody to this day, has ever investigated the Melbourne Sheriff's department who ws in in the drugs.she took many chances. MK Ultra? Well sometimes I wonder why some of these people - two MI6 = ever called upon me, and why I had the Masons, the Mafia, the CID, DEA and a lot of others mad, just because I ran across a Gideon Bible, dated 1952...used by the Nazis at Spandau...and without a doubt, NATOand this NATO bunch, well these would be masters of the world...if there ws anything Sybil hated more than the Nazis, it was the Communists. She was some witch. And, a friend. And I will never meet the likes of her again. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Well AMEN!!! It's about bloody time!!! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- I always thought it was illegal to tax church activity regardless of their politics. This decision could be reversed without a doubt; and this is how bad the IRS is. One year on a form, and this got me into a bit of troublethe form said I could deduct my taxes.and I did - but I deducted the federal taxes I paid, and got away with it for a couple of years only because, I had answered the questions honestly..however when the experts found out what I had done, they went after me for back taxes, but at the same time, showed me how to save money.so we broke even. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/10/99 5:47:19 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always thought it was illegal to tax church activity regardless of their politics. No Colleen, ya' can't be overtly partisan, as the so-called Christian Coalition has been for years... here's hoping they'll go after back taxes...would serve Pat and his fruity pals right!! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Thursday, June 10, 1999
-Caveat Lector- from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS subject: AANEWS for June 10, 1999 A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S AANEWS #585 ~~ 6/10/99 http://www.atheists.org ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ http://www.americanatheist.org - A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS "Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights And The Separation Of State and Church" -- In This Issue... * IRS -- No tax break for Coalition * Robertson resigns from Laura Ashley board * Resources * About this list... IRS: NO TAX EXEMPTION FOR CHRISTIAN COALITION In a setback for one of America's major religious right political groups, the Internal Revenue Service has reportedly concluded that the Christian Coalition is not entitled to a tax-exempt status. A report in the St. Petersburg Times newspaper claims that in a confidential IRS document delivered recently to the coalition, the Service found that the organization, founded by televangelist Pat Robertson, was not an educational group but rather acted as a political arm in favor of the Republican Party. University of Miami law professor Francis Hill told the Times, "It is suggesting that the real activities were in substantial part to influence the outcome of elections." The Times adds that the existence and contents of the document were confirmed by former Christian Coalition field director Dave Welch, who departed from the organization last March. The group has been undergoing a major reorganization in recent months, including the removal of numerous key officials such as its former President, Randy Tate. News reports suggest that Pat Robertson is "clearing the decks" at the Coalition in anticipation of the year 2000 elections. The Times and other media sources report "disintegration" within the Coalition, as well as claims that Robertson has angered many religious Christian conservatives by defending Texas Gov. George Bush as "profoundly pro-life" on the abortion rights question. In addition, the shakeup at the Coalition seems to have resulted in a decline in the number of active CC chapters; the paper notes that only six states now have active chapters, "down from a peak of between 20 and 25 several years ago." The IRS investigation had focused on the Coalition's extensive use of voters guide. Critics charged that the guides were simplistic and slanted to favor Coalition-backed candidates -- mostly Republicans -- and were distinctly partisan. Democrats campaigning for public office have complained that the guides frequently distorted their real views on social issues, and were distributed near election day deadlines, thus making a response difficult. An estimated 37 million of the guides and other political materials were distributed by the coalition in the last national elections. The paper also reports that a law partner of Christian Coalition attorney Alan Dye, Frank Northam, has already incorporated a new group known as The Christian Coalition of America. "Former coalition staffers say the new organization expects to file an application for tax exemption and continue to operate under this new umbrella group while the application is pending," added Times writer Mary Jacoby. A statement issued this morning by Pat Robertson announced, "Christian Coalition of America will continue to be a force in American politics and it will remain a prominent fixture on the political landscape as the nation's number-one, pro-family, pro-life organization." There is already speculation, though, about what the IRS ruling means, and how it could affect both Robertson's political machine and other religious right groups. The Coalition has reportedly spent more than it has collected in donations, so IRS may not be able to assess any tax liability. Former staffers seem disenchanted with Robertson, though, and may be looking in search of new political vehicles. Mr. Welch is working with Vision America which is described as a "group of pastors . which hopes to fill any voice left by the Christian Coalition." Vision America is based in Chicago, Illinois, and describes itself as a conservative Republican organization. Despite this setback, Robertson appears to be moving ahead with his goal of raising $21 million for the year 2000 elections. Robertson unveiled that ambitious program at a press conference in March, describing it as "the most massive effort to mobilize the grass roots in our history" and "the largest voter education in this history of the organization (Christian Coalition), and possibly in the history of grassroots politics." The effort will include distribution of more than 75 million voter guides in the 2000 election; a "tenfold" expansion in the group's political field staff, especially in key states including New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Illinois; training of 1.5
Re: [CTRL] [grassrootsreform] Re: eliminate the electoral college
-Caveat Lector- Inhabitant of the Conquered Land wrote: Meeting in secret, behind locked guarded doors, the representatives of the States, not the of the people, created an addendum to empower the States, through their Agency the United States. This Constitution was adopted by the States for the States. I disagree with the above. Special electors where chosen by ballot to vote on ratification. This made them the peoples representative not the state legislatures. The people remained the ultimate sovereigns here. We have through ignorance surrendered too much power to government at all levels but the avenue to reclaim it still lies open due to the nature of the way the Constitution for the united States was ratified. IMO Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Therapeutic Humane Cannabis
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Dr. Ken Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 1:49 PM Subject: Therapeutic Humane Cannabis THERAPEUTIC HUMANE CANNABIS The Drug War is not about drugs. It is about war. Like any other war, it has collateral casualties. Collateral casualties are the innocent civilians whose suffering is tolerated in the name of war. Consider, for example, the innocent children of Belgrade, who are going to bed tonight hungry, cold, tired and afraid. They are collateral casualties. Some collateral casualties of America's war on drugs would include the pain, suffering and even deaths of innocent Americans. Let me tell you about myself. I am an Adjunct Research Associate Professor of Medicine at the University of Utah School of Medicine. The "Adjunct" part of my title means I get my financial support from outside sources. I do contract research for private drug companies. Recently, I did a project for Atlantic Pharmaceutical. The new drug is called "CT-3." It sounds almost like a character from "Star Wars," doesn't it? Anyway, this drug was formed by attaching the active part of aspirin to the cannabinoid Tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC. The result is a drug with high potency analgesic (pain relief) and anti-inflammatory effects. My study investigated the dose-response effects of CT-3 on analgesia, stomach injury and toxicity. I found and reported that the drug had a very good dose-response curve for pain relief, with virtually no injury to the stomach. In other words, the THC part of the molecule protects the stomach from the aspirin part. I also found it was impossible for me to put enough CT-3 into a rat stomach to produce death. There simply was not sufficient room. Thus, CT-3 has the potential to be the perfect drug for arthritis sufferers around the world. It is as powerful as aspirin on pain and inflammation, with no stomach irritation or oral toxicity. I don't know if humans can get "high" on CT-3, but I suspect the dose would be so high, it would be at least 10 times as expensive as getting high smoking pot, hardly an incentive for abuse. The last I heard, Atlantic Pharmaceutical is not pursuing this potential wonder drug for arthritis sufferers. I don't believe it is because the drug is not effective or because of any adverse side effects. I suspect it is because the drug is a cannabinoid and would test positive for THC in urinalysis. I suspect this drug will never be available to the millions of people suffering from arthritis because of America's war on drugs. I suspect CT-3 is a collateral casualty. If CT-3 could have helped, then all those who suffer because of its unavailabilty would be collateral casualties. How many other drugs might be more effective if their adverse gastrointestinal effects could be reduced or eliminated with the addition of THC? How many other potential medical uses for THC will be collateral casualties? How many undiscovered wonder drugs are missing from your pharmacy because of the drug war? Does this make sense to you? Are you willing to trust your doctor to open you up and take out your appendix, but not trust her to prescribe appropriate drugs for your suffering? All prescription drugs are potentially dangerous and can be abused. That's why they are prescription drugs. Dozens of prescription drugs are more deadly than cannabinoids. Dozens of prescription drugs are more addictive than cannabinoids. Dozens of prescription drugs are more intoxicating and psychotropic than cannabinoids. Isn't it time we trust our medical professionals to make medical decisions? If you wouldn't trust the Legislature or Congress to operate on your appendix, why trust them with prescription decisions? The THC petition is about restoring some sanity to a world gone mad. It is about protecting three groups: 1) doctors who prescribe cannabinoids for proven medical conditions, 2) patients with prescriptions for the use of cannabinoids, and 3) suppliers of cannabinoids who supply only to patients with prescriptions. It is not about making cannabis legal for non-medical purposes. We trust our dentists to inject Novocain, a derivative of cocaine. We trust our doctors to prescribe codeine, a derivative of opium. Practically every illegal drug has its legal and useful derivatives in medicine -- except cannabinoids. Let's return a little humanity to medicine. Let's support the therapeutic use of cannabinoids to relieve human suffering. Let's support the Therapeutic Humane Cannabis initiative petition in Utah. Thank you, Ken Larsen, Ph.D. Adjunct Research Associate Professor of Medicine Chairman of the Utah THC Committee 856 East 100 South #2 Salt Lake City, Utah 84102 801-533-8658 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire
Re: [CTRL] Not a hoax
-Caveat Lector- Bullshit. There's no such thing as a free lunch. *Corporate* sponsors? Gimme a break! Since when do yuppies in beemers and pasty white WASPS care about anyone else who doesn't dress like them? I can almost absofrigginlutely guaranTEE that whatever these "corporate sponsors" donate is insignificant to its alleged recipients, sucked dry by God-knows-how-many invisible middle-men administrators, taken as a tax write-off, and passed on to the consumer (that be us!) in higher costs for their vaunted products and services. Feeling surly and jaded, it must be the moon or something... - LM -Original Message- From: Hilary A. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:27 PM Subject: Not a hoax -Caveat Lector- Hi All: I went there and clicked it and even visited the sponsor. It was very easy. Feel Free to pass this on ** Wouldn't you like to be able to feed the hungry for FREE? Now you can. The Hunger Site will allow you to feed a hungry person every day at no cost to yourself. Anyone can do it. Just visit the website. You can feed one hungry person everyday just by going to the website and clicking a button. The food is paid for by corporate sponsors. This is an easy way to do a really good deed. So everyone can feed a hungry person today. Please visit today and pass the word I did. http://www.thehungersite.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- At 06:47 PM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- I always thought it was illegal to tax church activity regardless of their politics. It is. However, if a church is an incorporated 501(c) church then they are technically "state" churches and must remain unpartisan. They must abide by the IRS rules. They could un-incorporate by cancelling their IRS 501(c) status. Then they could do whatever they wanted without government interference. The first amendment applies. And the government may NOT tax a non-501(c) unincorporated church. A church is a group of individual people who have already paid income taxes. Taxing a church is double taxation. The fallacy lies in the thought that a church could be a corporation. When a church incorporates it voluntarily gives up some Constitutional rights and comes under the IRS rules. Just as one gives up certain rights when they sign the 1040 income tax form. Many churches are now finding out that they do not have to incorporate and there are many new "Unregistered" churches springing up all over. The feds hate it, hence, Waco. But then the Feds hate the Constitution, too. The God of incorporated churches, by the churches own free will, is the Federal Government. Unregistered churches owe no allegiance except to Jesus Christ. I wonder what the status of "The People For The Socialist Way" is. --- "The rising greatness of our country...is greatly tarnished by the general prevalence of deism, which, with me, is but another name for vice and depravityI hear it is said by the deists that I am one of their number; and indeed that some good people think I am no Christian. This thought gives me much more pain than the appellation of Tory (being called a traitor), because I think religion of infinitely higher importance than politicsBeing a Christian...is a character which I prize far above all this world has or can boast." - Patrick Henry (from The Life of Patrick Henry of Virginia by A. G. Arnold in 1854) ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DISPATCH # 110 -- the weekly newsletter of ParaScope
-Caveat Lector- DISPATCH # 110 -- the weekly newsletter of ParaScope S O M E T H I N G S T R A N G E I S H A P P E N I N G 6/10/99 Quote of the Week "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway --- Rant of the Week: Non-Random Shootings of the New Moon Every week we pick the wackiest, scariest, nastiest or funniest rant from the deluge of letters received by us here at ParaScope headquarters, and present it to you as our Rant of the Week. This week, N-Ram shares a theory on how recent high school shootings are part of an elaborate plan. Enjoy. "All school killings part of larger plan. Here are the recent attacks: 1. Pearl, Miss. 10-1-97 2. Paducah, Ky. 12-1-97 3. Jonesboro, Ark. 3-24-98 4. Edinboro, Pa. 4-24-98 5. Fayetteville, Tenn. 5-19-98 6. Springfield, Ore. 5-21-98 7. Notus, Idaho 4-16-99 8. Littleton, Col. 4-20-99 "Using as straight edge ruler and map I found a perfect line between #1, 6, and 8, with 7 slightly above the line. If we make a line from 6 to 7 that line will continue to Ark. And cross #3 in Jonesboro Ark. A perfect line also exists between 3, 2, and 4... # 5 seems to fall outside these patterns. But # 5 does not belong to them because it was not a random killing, it was a boy shooting another boy over a girl friend. "Thus we have 3 lines and 7 killings lined up perfectly on the lines. These are not RANDOMLY PLACED and hence they are not random incidents. "Now if you are of a spiritual bent you might suspect angels, demons, or such like. If you are of a bad-alien bent, you might suspect little green men. If you are of a scientific bent you would be forced to suspect HUMAN PLANNING. Now most governments of the world would not be so foolish as to plan such crimes in straight lines. Thus we would be forced to suspect religious/occult groups. These might have a connection to a government, as in infiltration. "BUT THERE IS MORE! "Of the incidents: #1, 2, 4, 7 all took place during the exact time of the NEW MOON. #3, 6, and 8 took place 2 to 4 days on either side of the NEW MOON. New Moons played key roles in many ancient religions and occult groups, even the Bible. Number 7 seems to have failed when the boy was discovered before he shot anyone. Number 8 seems to be the SECOND attempt to meet the New Moon goal. "These shootings ARE NOT RANDOM, and are hence PLANNED "I am posting this all over the world to save my ars." -- All rants are printed as is, with spelling and grammar goofs left uncorrected. Some rants may be edited for brevity or clarity, to the extent such a thing is possible. If youve got a rant youd like to share, send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with possible rant in the subject line of your letter. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Coming Up Soon on ParaScope! Catch a number of great stories this week on the ParaScope web site, including regular updates to our Conspiracy Newsline, UFO Roundup and Daily Dose features. The Paper Trail: Where the Concealed is Revealed All-New Edition at http://www.parascope.com/ds/papertrail/index.htm When talking behind closed doors, Richard Nixon didn't mince words. His secret White House taping system recorded ample proof that this president was willing to speak his fears, profanities and illegal orders loud and clear. Now a another batch of unheard Nixon tapes has been released -- and word for word transcripts are in the new Paper Trail. Other key stories this month: Nixon aide Henry's Kissingers intimate diplomatic conversations are finally on the record in a new book; and a recent report by Guatemala's truth commission explicitly names the CIA as a moving force in decades of repression by state security forces. It's all new, all declassified, and all in the Paper Trail. --- Fortean Slips: Edition #33! Enigma editor D. Trull brings us an all-new batch of zany reports from the paranormal fringe. A Kinder, Gentler Satan: The Roman Catholic Church has revised its official views on the nature of Old Scratch, and this particular overhaul of foul wickedness is far from being your average P.R. con job. The Bra of Nostradamus: Yes, ladies, there is now special lingerie custom-designed for the End Times! Aliens Chewing the Fat: A crass advertising campaign has cast EBE's and the obese as mortal enemies, kicking off intergalactic hostilities of hefty proportions. --- ParaScope Newsline http://www.parascope.com/articles/cnews/index.htm Navy Jet Illegally Fired Depleted Uranium Ammunition at Puerto Rico Test Range On February 19, 1999, a Marine Harrier fighter jet illegally fired 267 25mm shells tipped with depleted uranium at a practice range on Vieques Island in Puerto Rico, according to a recent disclosure. Depleted uranium (DU) is an extremely dense metal used to reinforce large-caliber bullets and shells, allowing the projectiles to penetrate armor. However, shell impact produces a dust cloud of
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought it was illegal to tax church activity regardless of their politics. This decision could be reversed without a doubt; and this is how bad the IRS is. == from: http://www.au.org/pr7-9.htm TEXAS PREACHER'S POLITICKING COULD CAUSE CHURCH TO LOSE ITS TAX EXEMPTION, CHURCH-STATE WATCHDOG GROUP SAYS CENSORSHIP CRUSADER URGES CONGREGATION TO VOTE 'INFIDELS' OFF WICHITA FALLS CITY COUNCIL Background Information from July Church State A Texas preacher's threat to drive the "infidels" off the Wichita Falls City Council could bring Internal Revenue Service scrutiny and the loss of his congregation's federal tax-exempt status, a church-state watchdog group has charged. In a recent message to his flock at the First Baptist Church, the Rev. Robert Jeffress said America is a Christian nation and congregants should defeat city council members at the polls if they refuse to ban two books with gay themes from the local public library. According to the June 29 Wichita Falls Times Record News, Jeffress challenged his congregation to "vote out the infidels who would deny God and his word." The pastor noted that city council races traditionally attract low voter turnout and urged his congregation, which claims 8,300 members, to vote for those who agree with their spiritual convictions. In a July 9 letter to Jeffress, Americans United for Separation of Church and State warned that the preacher was placing his church's tax exemption in jeopardy. "Your comments about how your congregation should vote in the next election raise serious legal questions. If you proceed with your plan to use your church to defeat city council members with whom you disagree," observed the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United executive director, "you are placing the tax-exempt status of your congregation in jeopardy. "The meaning of your 'vote out the infidels' comment is clear," Lynn added. "You want city council members to vote your way about library books you find objectionable, and if they fail to do so, you are instructing your congregation to vote against them. As such, you have issued a political threat, and this is exactly the kind of activity that federal tax law is trying to prevent. "Pastor Jeffress, you have every right to express your views on public issues," Lynn explained. "As a Christian minister myself, I treasure the right of religious organizations to participate in public discourse. However, you do not have the right to impose your religious views on all citizens of your community through force of law. America is a diverse democracy, not a fundamentalist Christian theocracy." Americans United is currently engaged in a nationwide campaign to educate clergy about the laws governing church involvement in politics. As part of the project, churches that violate the rules are being reported to the IRS. In recent years, Americans United has notified the IRS of 14 religious institutions that attempted to influence the outcome of elections, including two churches and one religious radio network in Texas. Further, in 1992, Americans United alerted the IRS to the activities of the Church at Pierce Creek in Vestal, N.Y. At that time, the church purchased full-page advertisements in national newspapers urging readers to vote against then-candidate Bill Clinton in the 1992 presidential election. Three years after Americans United reported this blatant example of church politicking to the IRS, the church's tax exemption was revoked. Americans United is a religious liberty watchdog group based in Washington, D.C. Founded in 1947, the organization represents 60,000 members and allied houses of worship in all 50 states. -30- © Americans United for Separation of Church and State, 1998. All rights reserved. 1816 Jefferson Place, NW Washington, D.C. 20036 202-466-3234 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FWD: House to Tackle Anti-gun Crime Bill Soon
-Caveat Lector- From: Gun Owners of America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Gun Owners of America [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: House Votes Coming Next Week Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:43:56 -0400 House to Tackle Anti-gun Crime Bill Soon Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org Thursday, June 10, 1999 "House Republican leaders yesterday embraced gun control legislation written with the help of the National Rifle Association and announced plans to rush it to a final vote." -- The Washington Post, 6/9/99 House To Take Up Gun Control Next Week Voting on juvenile crime legislation will probably begin next week. There will be gun control amendments offered on the floor of the House, and many of these provisions will probably parallel the gun issues that were considered in the Senate (background registration checks, import bans on self-defense magazines, liability on gun owners who don't lock up their guns, etc.). The House Republican leadership is supporting a proposal that, among other things, will impose background registration checks on those buying guns from PRIVATE individuals at gun shows. Gun owners should begin calling their Representatives and urge them to vote "NO" on all gun control-- including any Gun Control "Lite" provisions that are sponsored by Republicans. [Activists can now get an exact copy of the juvenile crime bill (S. 254) that passed in the Senate at http://www.gunowners.org/gts254.htm on the GOA website.] Republicans Getting Hammered On Capitol Hill Irate gun owners from across the country are deluging Republicans with correspondence, both at the Republican National Committee and on Capitol Hill. Reports have indicated that the RNC has been "besieged" with mail, as "several boxes" of faxes, emails and letters have been unloaded upon their offices. House Speaker Denny Hastert's office has admitted to receiving a thousand calls a day from angry gun owners. In what could be an attempt to counteract this grassroots response, the head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA), released a poll recently supposedly showing that 80% of Republicans favor stricter gun controls, such as those which passed in the Senate juvenile crime bill. This ignores the fact that truly honest polls-- such as those conducted by the Denver Rocky Mountain News (5/20/99)-- have found that 65% of people want less gun control, like easier concealed carry. "Should people ought to have to register a gun like they register their cars? Do I think that? Of course I do. Of course I do." -- President Bill Clinton, June 4, 1999 Democrats Pushing For More Gun Control Even before the House of Representatives has had a chance to vote on the juvenile crime bill, top-ranking Democrats in Congress and in the White House are predicting that the current batch of gun control provisions will be followed by more stringent proposals. For example, on June 4, President Clinton stated on ABC's Good Morning America that: "I have made it perfectly clear that I want to get what was passed in the Senate, passed in the House. Then we will come back and try to pass some more [gun control]." The current gun control proposals in Congress are mere stepping stones to Clinton's next goal. He has openly stated he wants to move towards full-fledged gun owner registration. Gun owners should not fall for Congressional promises that once this anti-gun crime bill is finished with, they will get the whole gun control debate "behind them." Not true. If the current gun restrictions in Congress become law, we will see an immediate move towards even stricter proposals. The time to stop the hemorrhaging is now. Make sure your Congressman hears from you. ACTION: If you have not done so already, please contact your Representative and ask him to oppose Gun Control "Heavy" (from the Democratic side of the aisle) and to oppose Gun Control "Lite" (from the Republicans). Moreover, Representatives should be encouraged to vote "NO" on the final passage of any juvenile bill that contains even the least 2nd Amendment infringement. Call the House at 202-225-3121 or toll free at 1-888-449-3511. The address for all Representatives is: [Name of Rep.], U.S. House of Representatives, Washington DC 20515. See http://www.gunowners.org/h106th.htm for fax and e-mail contact info. ** Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting up to date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the state in which you live, in either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert and ask to be removed. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] G. Thomas' CIA Satanic Book Review
LINKS TO BLACK MAGIC CIA Book Review and Clippings (Eight pages) By Judith, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 1998 Thomas, Gordon. 1989. *Journey Into Madness, The True Story of Secret Mind Control and Medical Abuse.* NY: Bantam Books. 388 p. Thomas' book is one of the real finds in conspiracy literature for its breadth of information and especially the information contained in the last chapters which brings CIA involvement in mind control operations up-to-date through the Reagan and Bush years, as a bonus. Thomas is an excellent, seasoned researcher and writer. John Marks' *In Search of the Manchurian Candidate,* includes most of Thomas' material up until 1979, but Thomas supersedes this material with information beyond this time period. What is included is brief but nicely done and it brings up new information and questions. I am including here a passage which fascinated me because of its descriptions of CIA involvement with gypsy-black-magic and telepathic seerers. He describes these groups has having extraordinarily high numbers in the 70s. Those who cry "poisons" may have as perps, may have COVENS in their local areas which are handling their non-consensual "conditioning" or "training" or ovum transfers and removals. Because of the shear numbers Thomas cites, questions evolve concerning their intertwining with other crime syndicates worldwide. This has been a little discussed aspect of syndicate work -- witchcraft. Coven syndicates might tie together conspiracy with Santeria-type black magic (French and British Creoles from the Caribbean originally) and use of specialized implants, very possibly introduced by the Creoles (and other cannibal cults) as research which Delgado undertook after these culture-technologies were introduced to the U.S. military. These are notions which fit into my research. Creoles in my family were working hand in hand with government implantations and drug experimentations. And Delgado, being a Spanish man, was probably not an accident in terms of his working on these implants, perhaps he was familiar with the use of implants and telepathic communication from his experiences in Spain and in Spanish caves like those in Grenada (which are known to be homes to unusual groups and gypsies there). Perhaps these Spanish gypsies are related to the U.S. Creole ones or even the gnomes Taylor Caldwell (*Captains and The Kings*) brings up. The U.S. Creoles are involved with some maligned rituals and cannibal activities. All this is speculation on this author's part, but threads which appear to be tieing together. This passage also contains a very nice summary of early implants used on civilians and a summary of the early stages of Watergate cover-ups. (p. 274 - 282) By May 1971, Operation Often had on its payroll three professional astrologers. Each received $350 a week plus expenses to cover what they claimed would be their loss of regular earnings. Their task was to predict the future. The astrologers sat for hours in soundproof booths in the Scientific Engineering Institute and read a wide selection of newspapers and magazines. They extrapolated items that psychically alerted them. They taped what came into their minds about how some particular event or happening would develop. There were interesting predictions. One astrologer forecast that President Richard Nixon would win a second term, but would experience severe political damage during it -- though the seer had not mentioned Watergate. Another foresaw that the Vietnam War would end in disaster for the United States -- not a difficult piece of forecasting for a conflict that was now costing $25 billion a year, and with American dead approaching 40,000. Nearer to home, the astrologers all saw an increase in serious crime, while internationally the highjacking of airplanes would become the single greatest threat to travelers. Asked by the behavioralists to produce a psycho-profile of a typical skyjacker, the palmists settled for a young, dispossessed Cuban type of personality -- apparently a youth who was impetuous and disillusioned enough with the United States to be prepared to risk his life to hijack a plane to the island. The psychics were asked for suggestions to combat the hijackers. Among the more memorable ones were that airline stewardesses should be trained to seduce hijackers, passengers should be made to travel in their undergarments, with an airline cloak to allow them their modesty; and before each flight the pilot should play through the aircraft public address system the Cuban national anthem and arrest anyone who stood up. The only suggestion the Agency passed on to the airline industry was that every pilot should carry approach maps for Jose Marti Airport in Havana. By early 1972, Operation Often had taken on two more palmists, both Chinese-American, to
[CTRL] Fwd: The Web and the Pentagon
Kenn, Thanks for the patience. I know it's late, but I think it was worth the wait. Since the book is about cyberculture, this makes a great leadoff piece for the collection. I believe this is a Rickey Henderson for a leadoff. Robert The Web and the Pentagon Robert Sterling During the summer of 1969, the idea of a coming Aquarius Age was floating through the air in full bloom. Man had landed on the moon, Jimi Hendrix blasted Woodstock with "The Star-Spangled Banner," and Charles Manson led a bloody slaughter which, at least symbolically, appeased the angry moon-goddess as she demanded sacrifice to sanctify the new era. Perhaps it is fitting that when Labor Day weekend came that year, bringing the season to its traditional close (true, the season actually ends in late September, but most consider the Labor Day weekend the final gasp before Autumn hits), a little observed event occurred which would rock the planet in a way that - for all their impact on the collective unconsciousness - neither Neil, Jimi nor Chuck could ever hope to match. It happened at UCLA, not too far from the sites of Helter Skelter. Arriving there was the first network switch for a little campus-to-campus information network called ARPANet. The next day, it was hooked up, and soon after the very first message was sent from the node at UCLA to a second one located at Stanford Research Institute. With this tiny step, ignored by nearly everyone who wasn't involved with the project, the Internet was born. ARPANet was short for ARPA Network, and ARPA stood for the Advanced Research Projects Agency. ARPA funded scientific research and was formed in 1958, during the panic following the launching of the Russian space satellite Sputnik. Frightened by the prospect of the Evil Soviet Empire showing socialism was a superior economic system, the American establishment came up with the only logical response to the menacing threat: prove the claim to be false by having the government fund a huge, centralized project which was managed and controlled by the state. ARPA was controlled by the Department of Defense, and the purpose of ARPA was to focus on leading edge goodies that had military applications. The results were quite stunning, though cynics would point out that nearly every major American scientific advancement since 1958 wasn't funded until researchers could first find a way the technology could exterminate people more efficiently. ARPA certainly did not create the massive military-industrial komplex (Mikkies for short): this was done through World War II, Korea, and the Cold War paranoia which followed. Further, there were already many huge projects that were dubiously linked to military purposes, most notably the Federal Highway System, which was created thanks to a defense spending bill. (The supposed purpose of the highway system, people stuck in traffic jams should ironically remind themselves of, was to enable military equipment and personnel to be transported on the ground quickly.) Still, the founding of ARPA is an important event in the history of the American Mikkie, as it formed an agency to centralize and legitimize the concept of the Pentagon funding the US economic engine. In 1961, President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned the public of the threat that was being created. Having quietly played golf while he saw the death machine develop under his tenure, he boldly stated in his Farewell Address: Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea. Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. Since Ike bid goodbye with these words, only three
Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.
-Caveat Lector- SCIO-LTD wrote: -Caveat Lector- This piece alone deserves posting: nurev wrote to SCIO-LTD: [The internet has promise in several areas, none of which are necessary for sustaining life.] Think again. I read the piece. I see no reason to change my statement. Both the internet, and modern economics are synthetic man made creations. In the world of synthetic creations they interact in important ways. In real life. Biological life, modern economics are dooming us to extinction. As for the Net, it too will come under control of capitalists and turn into just another tool of destruction instead of a mechanism for human advancement. For all of evolutionary history they did not exist and we managed to evolve to a highly developed state. The internet does not grow food, or fetch water, or keep you warm. It could diappear today and be irrelevant to human survival. Joshua2 Digital Society Internet Whacks $2 Billion Off Merrill Lynch by Clay Shirky THE INTERNET HAPPENED to Merrill Lynch last week, and it cost them a couple billion dollars -- when Merrill announced its plans to open an online brokerage after years of deriding the idea, its stock price promptly fell by a tenth, wiping out $2 billion in its market capitalization. The internet's been happening like that to a lot of companies lately -- Barnes and Noble's internet stock is well below its recent launch price, Barry Diller's company had to drop its Lycos acquisition because of damage to the stock prices of both companies, and both Borders and Compaq dumped their CEOs after it became clear that they were losing internet market share. In all of these cases, those involved learned the hard way that the internet is a destroyer of net value for traditional businesses because the internet economy is fundamentally at odds with the market for internet stocks. The internet that the stock market has been so in love with (call it the "Pretend Internet" for short) is all upside -- it enables companies to cut costs and compete without respect to geography. The internet that affects the way existing goods and services are sold, on the other hand (call it the "Real Internet"), forces companies to cut profit margins, and exposes them to competitors without respect to geography. On the Pretend Internet, new products will pave the way for enormous profitability arising from unspecified revenue streams. Meanwhile, on the Real Internet, prices have fallen and they can't get up. There is a rift here, and its fault line appears wherever offline companies like Merrill tie their stock to their internet offerings. Merrill currently pockets a hundred bucks every time it executes a trade, and when investors see that Merrill online is only charging $30 a trade, they see a serious loss of revenue. When they go on to notice that $30 is something like three times the going rate for an internet stock trade, they see more than loss of revenue, they see loss of value. When a company can cut its prices 70% and still be three times as expensive as its competitors, something has to give. Usually that is the company's stock price. The internet is the locus of the future economy, and its effect is the wholesale transfer of information and choice (read: power and leverage) from producer to consumer. Producers (and the stock market) prefer one-of-a-kind businesses who can force their customers to accept continual price increases for the same products. Consumers, on the other hand, prefer commodity businesses where prices start low and keep falling. On the internet, consumers have the upper hand, and as a result, anybody who profited from offline inefficiencies -- it used to be hard work to distribute new information to thousands of people every day, for example -- are going to see much of their revenue destroyed with no immediate replacement in sight. This is not to say that the internet produces no new value -- on the contrary, it produces enormous value every day. Its just that most of the value is concentrated in the hands of the consumer. Every time someone uses the net to shop on price (cars, plane tickets, computers, stock trades) the money they didn't spend is now available for other things. The economy grows even as profit margins shrink. In the end, this is what Merrill's missing market cap tells us -- the internet is now a necessity, but there's no way to use the internet without embracing consumer power, and any business which profits from inefficiency is going to find this embrace more constricting than comforting. The effects of easy price comparison and global reach are going to wring inefficiency (read: profits) out of the economy like a damp dishrag, and as the market comes to terms with this equation between consumer power and lower profit margins, $2 billion of missing value is going to seem like a drop in the bucket. Clay Shirky is Professor of New Media at Hunter College.
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: End-Times Times]]
-Caveat Lector- Robert Tatman wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- "Christianity is a fine religion. A shame Christians have never PRACTICED it." Christianity is impossible to practice as advertised. This is a problem for Christians and everyone else who lives with them on this planet. A more reality based religion would have served Christians better. Joshua2 A lot of the problem is that the New Testament doesn't contain anything like a complete set of instructions for being a Christian. It contains a hodge-podge of notes, memoirs, and letters, not to mention a totally confused book of religious science fiction. The Gospels are artificial constructs, based partly on a collection of the sayings of Jesus and partly on much later liturgy. The letters of Paul and the others deal for the most part with very specific problems at very specific times and places, and are only marginally relevant to the present day. The real core of the teachings appears, from hints in patristic writings, to have been passed *orally* to catechists; this secret teaching died out during the persecutions or was subtly altered to fit the new political reality as the underground movement became a church and then *the* Church. Now, with that said, the New Testament is still a deep, vibrant, challenging source of inspiration and wisdom. I honestly find something new in it each time I read it. But it just isn't an operating manual, and you will make a very great mistake if you try to turn it into one. Bob = Very well stated sir. J2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Contrails over N. Ca and Nevada Now!
-Caveat Lector- There is a big X shaped billowing chemtrail forming east of here. I took several photographs of them. There is a huge cloud overhead now and a chemical smell and 'feel' to the air, and hawk are circling overhead nearby. I'm not kidding. And now as I write this I went outside and photographed as yet the most bizarre contrail I have seen, right over my house laid as I was writing this. This chemtrail is now directly above my house and at an apparent altitude of 3000-5000 feet. More discontinuous low level contrails to the north over Sonoma County. Batten down the hatches! Some coincidence. But you don't have to wait for the photos to be developed. You can view the most recent image, or make a javascript movie, (data every 7 minutes now!). The image at 2:00 GMT under Previous is a good start. http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/sat-bin/epac_westcoast.cgi (click on Northern Cal. VIS) Or if you want the best resolution, download the individual gifs in the archives and make a gif animation. Regards, Steve Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Linda Minor wrote: -Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought it was illegal to tax church activity regardless of their politics. This decision could be reversed without a doubt; and this is how bad the IRS is. == from: http://www.au.org/pr7-9.htm TEXAS PREACHER'S POLITICKING COULD CAUSE CHURCH TO LOSE ITS TAX EXEMPTION, CHURCH-STATE WATCHDOG GROUP SAYS CENSORSHIP CRUSADER URGES CONGREGATION TO VOTE 'INFIDELS' OFF WICHITA FALLS CITY COUNCIL Background Information from July Church State A Texas preacher's threat to drive the "infidels" off the Wichita Falls City Council could bring Internal Revenue Service scrutiny and the loss of his congregation's federal tax-exempt status, a church-state watchdog group has charged. Why not tax churches? Why do non productive money grubbing religious institutions get to not pay taxes, while single working parents with small children do? Do we not tax them because their perverted leaders need the money for Cadilacs, whores, business deals, real estate, and lawyers to protect pedophiles? George Carlin said " TAX THE SHIT OUT OF THEM!" Get the tax burden off the poor and put it on these perverts, frauds, charlatans, and thieves. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Journalists' Guide to Gun Policy Scholars and Second Amendment Scholars]
If I might be so bold as to intrude, the recent discussion on Safire and gun control is a nice segue to a recent project of mine that I was hoping to pass along for your info. It's a new, entirely free, entirely nonprofit Web site that I have put together: http://www.gunscholar.org, The Journalists' Guide to Gun Policy Scholars and Second Amendment Scholars, featuring top experts -- liberals, moderates, and conservatives -- whose research has led them to be skeptical of gun control. In the very kind words of a few journalists who've had a look at it, "An invaluable resource for journalists and scholars, regardless of their views on the constitutional and policy issues raised by gun control." Jeffrey Rosen, The New Republic. "Whether you agree with them or not -- in fact, especially if you disagree with them -- intelligent gun-control skeptics deserve to be heard, and Prof. Volokh's directory makes an excellent starting point." Jonathan Rauch, National Journal. "Helpful and informative for any serious journalist." Cathy Young, Detroit News. "Great site -- very helpful for journalists, especially the indexing by specialty and the experts' c.v.s." Robyn Blumner, St. Petersburg Times. If you or your colleagues write about guns -- gun policy, lawsuits against gun makers, the Second Amendment, state constitutional questions -- I hope you'll find this site very useful. Visit it, bookmark it, tell your journalist friends and coworkers about it. * * * WHO ARE THE SCHOLARS LISTED ON THIS SITE? These are credible, articulate experts -- many of whom teach at top research universities such as Harvard, NYU, Duke, the University of Texas, and UCLA -- who can help you answer questions for your readers, listeners, and viewers. Most of them have made national names for themselves in other fields as well: Two, for instance, are among the leading liberal constitutional scholars in the nation (Profs. Sandy Levinson and William Van Alstyne). Three have clerked for Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court (Profs. Nelson Lund, Scot Powe, and Eugene Volokh). Some of them started out as gun control supporters but changed their views as their research progressed. * * * WHO CREATED THIS SITE? This site is entirely my own project. I'm on the faculty at UCLA Law School; I originally went into the academy as an expert in free speech law and cyberspace law, and most of my teaching and writing still relates to those areas. Several years ago, though, I became interested in the criminological and constitutional questions related to guns, and have since begun writing about this subject, and teaching one of the few firearms regulation seminars taught at U.S. law schools. Before going into teaching, I clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and for U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Alex Kozinski. In case it matters, I might mention that I make no money from this. Eugene Volokh UCLA Law School (310) 206-3926 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.law.ucla.edu/faculty/volokh
[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT-FLASH 6/10/99
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT FLASH X THURSDAY, JUNE 10, 1999 22:59:55 UTC X D-DAY PUT ON HOLD: SERB MILITARY HAVING TROUBLE GETTING OUT; NATO ENTRANCE DELAYED UNTIL SATURDAY The Serbian withdrawal has been slowed by damaged equipment and fuel shortage as well as by land mines and booby traps. Late on Thursday night NATO called off plans for a dawn cross into Kosovo by British paratroopers. In a lightning-fast D-Day invasion, the Brits were to have gone in after lifting off by helicopter at 4 a.m. from the Skopje military compound. The plan, which had been kept secret, was quietly canceled Thursday night because Serbs were having trouble getting out, the NEW YORK TIMES is set to report in fresh editions. The paratroopers were to be swiftly followed by other British soldiers -- an advance guard was to have secured the main highway running from the border to Pristina. New plans are being drawn for a Saturday entrance. BRITS WITH EGGS The sudden delay caught British newspapers on Friday with their journalistic pants down. Papers up and down Fleet were caught screaming: INVASION! An invasion that had not yet gone down. The DAILY STAR on Friday: HERE WE COME, SLOBBA "British troops march into Kosovo today with a no-nonsense warning for President Milosevic - 'Don't try any tricks on us, Slobba.' The EXPRESS: PARAS GO MARCHING IN MIRROR: IN WE GO "Bowed under 120lb packs and bristling with weapons, British Paras lead the advance into Kosovo." The SUN: OUR BOYS: LET'S HAVE TEA IN KOSOVO ...Well, maybe on Saturday. Developing... X X X X X THE COMING 'EXPLOSION' Not to be confused with the current situation in Washington, D.C., the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa faces violent explosions of fecal matter due to massive obstructions in its sewage system! "We are racing against time to unblock the pipes before the pipes and manholes overflow or explode," Humberto Puerto, manager of the National Aqueduct and Sewerage Network Service, told wire reporters mid-week. "There are tanks that are full of fecal matter and that could explode because of the gases being produced and the pressure of new fluids." Hurricane Mitch caused severe cracks in the sewerage network of Tegucigalpa, a city of more than 1 million people. More than 80 percent of the city's pipes are destroyed and the remaining 20 percent are blocked by earth, rubbish, sand and human waste. Fecal matter and urine have been running openly through city streets due to the blockages in underground pipelines. - Filed by Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for steaks and breaks (c)DRUDGE REPORT 1999 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [grassrootsreform] Re: eliminate the electoral college
-Caveat Lector- The States were represented at the Convention in Philadelphia. The people within the States had no representation within the convention. It was a Convention of States. The participants were all property owners within the States nominated not by the people, but by the State Legislatures to represent the needs of the thirteen independent States. Rhode Island chose not to participate. In fact, the State of Rhode Island refused the document till the twelve States, not the people, therein were going to exclude the State of Rhode Island from the benefits offered under the Constitution. Only then did the State, not the people, of Rhode Island agree to accept membership as a State, not the people, to the Union under the Constitution. The People only control the State, where in they are the Sovereigns. The States control the United States, which was and is their agency. The preamble to the Constitution was to list we the States of .. The editorial committee changed the preamble to read the We the people of the United States. The people of the United States, were and are the States. The peoples say was the demand to limit this Agency of the States. These limitations are the first ten amendments ratified in 1791. Read the Journals, and the Laws of your Estate, and later the State from 1770 till 1776. You will then find out just what the State was, and how the State was incorporated. The people who voted within this State, were property owners. In this State, the State of Maryland, you had to own 50 acres of real property, or have a value exceeding 100 pounds in tangible personal property to participate within this State, the State of Maryland as an elector. The Virginia Company had two ruling committees. One sat in Virginia, the Second sat in London. These two competing committees fought over control of the charter. The American committee put George Washington in the Field of Battle, who personally invested over 800 thousand pound sterling of his personal funds to finance the Rebellion against the London committee and the Kings ministers. The Constitution of the United States for the United States of America, is a contract between sovereign Independent States. The People of America have been deceived. Yes you are correct, not knowing the facts of history has allowed the United States, and its creator, this State, to deliberately mis inform the people of America. You have your self, made one fatal error You should validate just who was allowed to participate in the Corporate Body Politic in 1787. Property Owners. These property owners owned substantial amounts of real, and/or tangible personal property. The Peoples voice within the Untied States was also decided by the States. The State legislature was empowered to determine the Districts from which the representatives to the House of Representatives were chosen. The Constitution empowered the States. The War Between the States, in 1861 to 1877, was in reality a War by the United States upon the Sovereign and Independent States of America party to the Union under the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America. The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell -- From: Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [grassrootsreform] Re: eliminate the electoral college Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 9:00 PM -Caveat Lector- Inhabitant of the Conquered Land wrote: Meeting in secret, behind locked guarded doors, the representatives of the States, not the of the people, created an addendum to empower the States, through their Agency the United States. This Constitution was adopted by the States for the States. I disagree with the above. Special electors where chosen by ballot to vote on ratification. This made them the peoples representative not the state legislatures. The people remained the ultimate sovereigns here. We have through ignorance surrendered too much power to government at all levels but the avenue to reclaim it still lies open due to the nature of the way the Constitution for the united States was ratified. IMO Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- At 10:38 PM 6/10/99 -0700, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Why not tax churches? Because it's unconstitutional (1st Amendment) and it's double taxation. Why do non productive money grubbing religious institutions get to not pay taxes, while single working parents with small children do? Individuals in churches do pay income taxes. Single working parents with small children don't pay any income taxes and actually, thanks to the socialist engineers, usually get back more than they paid in. Free money from my pocket to theirs..(and not a word of thanks.). The wise elitists call it "re-distribution of wealth", while most people call it government created and sanctioned theft. Do we not tax them because their perverted leaders need the money for Cadilacs, whores, business deals, real estate, and lawyers to protect pedophiles? You watch to much TV. The churches out in the communities are nothing like that. KILL your TV, Joshua2. George Carlin said " TAX THE SHIT OUT OF THEM!" Now there's an expert worth quoting. Get the tax burden off the poor and put it on these perverts, frauds, charlatans, and thieves. Joshua2 The poor have no tax burden. The tax burden is on the middle class because that's where the bulk of production and income is. -- Pertinent Ronnie Reagan Quotes: I'm sure that everyone feels sorry for the individual who has fallen by the wayside or who can't keep up in our competitive society, but my own compassion goes beyond that to those millions who get up every morning, send the kids to school, go to work, try to keep up the payments on their house, pay exorbitant taxes to make possible compassion for the less fortunate, and as a result have to sacrifice many of their own desires and dreams and hopes. Government owes them something better than always finding a new way to make them share the fruit of **their** toils with others. - Believe me, you cannot create a desert, hand a person a cup of water, and call that compassion. - Government exists to protect the rights which are ours from birth; the right to life, to liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. A man may choose to sit and fish instead of working -- that's his pursuit of happiness. He does not have the right to force his neighbors to support him in his pursuit because that interferes with their pursuit of happiness. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Free money from my pocket to theirs..(and not a word of thanks.). The wise elitists call it "re-distribution of wealth", while most people call it government created and sanctioned theft. And what does the Bible call it? See Acts 2:44. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Class -- whatever that may entail was ...
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: ... have had articles featuring what I believe is a growing class division in America. MJ: Do NOT 99% of Americans consider themselves 'middle class'? Is it class division or culture? It it a PERCEPTION manipulation? Are you considering the total tax burden which averages close to 50% currently compared with 12-15% only about 40 years ago? What of the gradual but deliberate removal of personal responsibility? What of the immoral activities which Government participates, but refuses to allow the average citizen the same privilege? If one is concerned only with their own responsibilities rather than looking into their neighbor's back yard ... when do they have time to determine WHICH class they fit and what Mr. Jones has which need to be 'kept up with'? Regard$, --MJ The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods. -- H. L. Mencken DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Much of the R and D in high tech industries is funded by the taxpayers... We have NASA, NSA, Livermore, MIT, the mammoth defense contractors.. Silicon Valley has had its share of government subsidies.. MJ: Then it is NOT capitalism. nurev wrote: Capitalism CAN NOT EXIST WITHOUT GOVERNMENT Reality starts on the ground man. Not as a definition. You have it all ass backwards Johnson. In the state in which man, individually and in totality, has the greatest amount of freedom, liberty and equality, the Government is merely the collective application of the individual's right to self-protection. This is the only place in which capitalism can exist. William Hugh Tunstall wrote: So the argument that market forces (capitalism) are responsible for high tech innovations is false. When "the invisible hand" stays invisible, government comes to the rescue. MJ: Non squitur nurev wrote: It is a clear statement, and I understood the meaning quite well. MJ: But that does not change its fallacy. Regard$, --MJ The people who bind themselves to systems are those who are unable to encompass the whole truth and try to catch it by the tail; a system is like the tail of truth, but truth is like a lizard; it leaves its tail in your fingers and runs away knowing full well that it will grow a new one in a twinkling. -- Ivan Turgenev DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- At 08:28 PM 6/10/99 -0700, you wrote: Free money from my pocket to theirs..(and not a word of thanks.). The wise elitists call it "re-distribution of wealth", while most people call it government created and sanctioned theft. And what does the Bible call it? See Acts 2:44. The bible calls taking what does not belong to you..theft. Below is the context of Acts 2:44. What is described here is called sharing and charity. Men giving to other men of thier own free will. Taxing and re-distribution of wealth is the government taking your money against your will and giving it to others that a government elite chooses whether you like it or not. The bible gives no right to government authorities to steal, nor does it authorize government to be charitable with other peoples money. --- Ac:2:41: Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. Ac:2:42: And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. Ac:2:43: And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. Ac:2:44: And all that believed were together, and had all things common; Ac:2:45: And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. Ac:2:46: And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Ac:2:47: Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Australian Censorship/EMail Virus
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org World Socialist Web Site www.wsws.org -- -- WSWS : News Analysis : Australia South Pacific Australian government introduces Internet censorship laws By John Neilson 11 June 1999 Back to screen version In a serious attack on democratic rights, the Australian government has introduced laws to filter and censor the Internet. The legislation, already passed by the Senate and due to be endorsed in the House of Representatives later this month, will see Australia join such repressive regimes as China and Singapore in practicing Internet censorship. Although the government claims that the Broadcasting Services Amendment (Online Services) Bill is a means of preventing access by minors to violent and pornographic material, the Bill's preamble is much more broader. It states that the legislation aims "to restrict access to certain Internet content that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult." Severely criticised by Internet Service Providers (ISPs), telecommunication experts and civil liberty groups, the Bill provides for complaints about Internet content to be referred to the Australian Broadcasting Authority (ABA), which will investigate and act against ISPs hosting offensive content. ISPs will be directed to remove any banned content they host. If they fail to do so, or fail to take "reasonable steps" to filter out such content hosted abroad they can be fined $27,000 per day. The ABA, the body responsible for regulating television and radio content, will maintain a blacklist of sites that receive a RC (Refused Classification) or X rating designation. Updated lists will circulated among ISPs, which will be compelled to remove and block these sites. Under the new law, the Internet is considered an "online service similar to other "broadcasting services" and hence subject to the same laws as TV, radio and the print media. One fundamental difference however exists between the two services: whereas the traditional media are owned and operated by a handful of wealthy proprietors, the Internet has turned anyone with a personal computer and modem into a potential "broadcaster". In effect, the thoughts and ideas of the population at large are now subject to official censorship. It remains to be seen what effect the law will have. The technical capacity to censor the Internet is at best dubious. First of all, the scheme relies on maintaining a blacklist of banned sites. Presently there are an estimated 30 million sites worldwide, and growing fast. The ABA will attempt to monitor them with the help of an additional five staff. Secondly, there are numerous ways to bypass filters. It is not clear how ISPs will be expected to enforce the legislation. The Act qualifies itself so that "public interest considerations [can] be addressed in a way that does not impose unnecessary financial and administrative burdens on Internet content hosts and Internet service providers. It seems that ISPs will introduce filters by way of a proxy server. A proxy server stores copies of every web page accessed by users so that future requests for the same page are downloaded from the ISP's own server rather than from the site itself, via the Internet. This is the filtering method employed in Singapore and China. Electronic Frontiers Australia (EFA), one of the industry organisations that has campaigned against the legislation, wrote in a submission to the Senate Select Committee on Information Technologies last April: "It will not achieve the claimed aim of protecting children, but it will infringe adults' rights to freedom of speech and the legislated principle in Australian law that adults should be free to read, see and hear what they want." The EFA has pointed out that the sheer number of Internet web sites makes it virtually impossible to censor. Even if the government censors 10,000 sites in its first year, this would represent only 0.1 percent of web content. According to the EFA, because of the exponential increase in web sites, this would drop to 0.05 percent in the second year, 0.025 percent in the third year and 0.01 percent in the fourth year. Businesses in general have been extremely critical. Ozemail, which hosts more than 20 percent of Australia's Internet traffic, has said it could not block overseas adult content. Other companies have warned that compliance with the law will slow Internet speed dramatically, hamper electronic business transactions, now estimated globally at around $1.6 trillion annually, and end any possibility of Australia becoming a hub for networking infrastructure in the Asia-Pacific region. The cost to ISPs is potentially enormous. Millions of dollars will be required to establish proxy servers running filtering software capable of transferring vast amounts of data. An Ozemail vice president
[CTRL] Religiosity
-Caveat Lector- From TheIndependent (UK) Satanists are in the army now By Andrew Marshall A GROUP of American conservative religious organisations is demanding that Christians boycott the US Army and all of its works until the military ends support for its latest denominations: witches and satanists. The Army has decided to allow other religions to practice their beliefs on US bases, including the adherents of Wicca, or witchcraft. A handbook for Army chaplains also includes the Church of Satan among groups allowed to worship. "An Army that sponsors satanic rituals is unworthy of representing the United States of America," said Paul Weyrich, president of the Free Congress Foundation, a right wing group. The Military Pagan Network (MPN) hit back by saying that the Constitution specifically rules out discrimination based on religion. John Machate of MPN said: "All religions are, and should be, permitted free practice on military bases, within reasonable limits." AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Air Rage
-Caveat Lector- From Int'l Herald Tribune Paris, Friday, June 11, 1999 Belligerent On Board? Bangor Is Ready Welcoming Maine Airport Gets a Fix on Air-Rage Emergency Landings -- -- By Ellen Barry The Boston Globe -- -- BANGOR, Maine - By 12:15 A.M. Monday, when Delta Flight 064 made a hasty landing at Bangor International Airport, service crews knew the drill: Remove the belligerent passenger from his position hog-tied in the aisle, calm down the flight attendants who had been sitting on him, and wipe the blood off the cabin ceiling. When the two FBI agents in Bangor showed up to take Christopher Bayes into custody, the situation seemed almost normal. ''It's like anything else,'' said Sergeant James Owens of the Bangor Police Department. ''You do it enough times, you get used to it.'' Over the past 31 month, three airliners have made emergency landings in Bangor to remove British passengers who have gone into violent, threatening rages during trans-Atlantic flights. While other airports might shrink from airborne discipline problems, Bangor is actively marketing its willingness to handle them. After the offenders are safely incarcerated in the Penobscot County Jail - all three are there now - the airport sends the planes off with the message that they are welcome to come back the next time. Emergency landings are bread and butter for Bangor, where a full 25 percent of landings are unplanned stops for refueling or emergencies, which can bring in $10,000 apiece. With a runway long enough for a space-shuttle landing and a strategic position en route to any northern European destination, Bangor is an obvious choice for pilots who need to get out of the air fast. ''Frankly, other airports aren't that interested in doing this,'' said Jeff Russell, head of marketing for the airport. ''It's the dregs of the business.'' Recent studies have suggested that air-rage incidents are on the upturn, although the emotional stress of flying - a loss of control and a sense of containment - has not changed. Among incidents that have been documented, the most common grievance was attendants' refusal to serve alcohol. The second was seat assignment, the third was flight attendants' attitudes, and the fourth was airline food, Mr. Russell said. Bangor International Airport has been handling 8 to 12 air-rage-related landings per year, and in March 1988 airport officials began marketing its air-rage services at a convention of European carriers. In a business where an unscheduled stop can wipe out a flight's profit margin, Bangor's main selling point is a quick turnaround time. But there is also a geographical asset, according to Mr. Russell. Bangor's airspace seems to be a hot spot for passenger misconduct. ''You've been flying for five, six hours, you've seen the movie, you've eaten the food, you've written in your journal, and it's time to act up,'' he said. ''Trouble seems to develop within 250 nautical miles of Bangor in either direction.'' This spring has brought an alarming amount of business. On May 3, an Airtours International flight made an emergency landing on the way from Orlando, Florida, to Manchester, England, when a British mechanic kicked out an interior window and threatened to kick in the outer window, which could have caused a dangerous loss of cabin pressure. Bryan Neal, 25, of Manchester, was angry because flight attendants refused him alcohol and he already had seen the in-flight movie. Mr. Neal is serving a 60-day sentence and owes the airline $25,000 for damage to the plane. On May 26, Shabiya Davidson, also of Manchester, assaulted a flight attendant. The Bangor police said that Mr. Davidson later was found to have been carrying cocaine in a condom in his stomach and that the condom had burst. He also is serving a 60-day sentence. The latest incident, like the first, was alcohol-related. Mr. Bayes, 41, who also is from Manchester, groped two female flight attendants, cursed loudly and tried to get into the locked cockpit to demand another drink, Mr. Russell said. Two other flight attendants subdued Mr. Bayes and tied him up, using nylon restraints and three cloth napkins. When a passenger-service crew boarded the plane, the flight attendants were sitting on him, Mr. Russell said. The two flight attendants who subdued Mr. Bayes were treated for minor injuries. After ground crews cleaned blood, which had come from a cut on Mr. Bayes's mouth, off the seats, the floor and the ceiling of the cabin, the flight took off again at 2:22 A.M., less than two hours after it had made its emergency landing. Mr. Bayes, who was arraigned Tuesday, faces charges of assault and interference with the flight crew. Paul Palumbo, who is one-half of the FBI's Bangor office, is watching
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Guess who said this: Render Unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's; and to God, that which is Gods.words to that effect, and look what they did to him - the only man who never complained and drove the gamblers out of the temples. Colleen Screw Ceasar DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CRP: Lobbyists Gore, Perfect Together
-Caveat Lector- The DC-based Center for Responsive Poilitics has found that, during the period between 1/1/99 3/31/99 Al Gore [aka Father of the Internet] was treated best by lobbyists, out of all the presidential candidates, collecting a whopping total of $1.4 million!! That's twice as much as the lobbying industry gave to TX Gov. Bush. And, that's not even including "donations" from the Buddhist Temple visit. In addition, interestingly enough, even though Gore has tried repeatedly to get chummy with the high- tech industry, Bush still received more in computer industry contributions than Gore, 37 percent vs 33 percent, respectively. Never mind that Gore has tried to portray himself as a pro-silicon Internet expert. He's just no Bubba. Never had it, and may never will. Above information gathered via WashPost, 10 June 99 -- Regards, -A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Guess who said this: Render Unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's; and to God, that which is Gods.words to that effect, And what exactly WAS Ceaser's? To most people living in Roman occupied Palestine, whatever it was, it wasn't anything of theirs. and look what they did to him - the only man who never complained and drove the gamblers out of the temples. They weren't gamblers; they were money changers. The chronology of the event is telling. When Jesus was telling people to turn the other cheek, the government had no problem at all with him preaching in public and drawing a crowd. But when he said, "Let he that hath no sword sell his garment and buy one," and went downtown with a whip in his hand and started kicking banker butt, the government killed him off pronto. What does this tell Christians about who's on whose side? How many listen? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [10] Ritual Abuse
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Ritual Abuse Margaret Smith©1993 HarperCollins Publishers 10 East 53rd Street New York, NY 10022 ISBN 0-06-250214-X 213pps out-of-print --[10]-- Resources BOOKS The following is a list of books available to clinicians and to survivors with Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD). I do not agree with some of the current therapeutic attitudes toward individuals with MPD. I encourage people to take what they like from these books and leave the rest. On Multiple Personality Disorder Braun, Bennett G. Treatment of Multiple Personality Disorder Washington, D.C.: American Psychiatric Press, 1986. A technical book for clinicians. Cohen, Barry, Esther Giller, and Lynn W. Multiple Personality Disorder from the Inside Out. Baltimore, MD: The Sidran Press, 1991. A collection of personal accounts of individuals with multiple personality disorder. A useful book for survivors and for therapists. Gil, Eliana. United We Stand: A Book for People with Multiple Personalities. Walnut Creek, CA: Launch Press, 1990. A simplistic book for survivors and others interested in multiple personalities. Kluft, Richard. Childhood Antecedents of Multiple Personality Disorder Washington, D.C.: American Psychiatric Press, 1985. A technical book for therapists. Putnam, Frank W Diagnosis and Treatment of Multiple Personality Disorder New York: Guilford Press, 1989. A technical book for clinicians. Ross, Colin A. Multiple Personality Disorder: Diagnosis, Clinical Features, and Treatment. New York: John Wiley and Sons, 1989. A technical book for clinicians. On Ritual Abuse Again, I do not necessarily agree with some of the following approaches to the subject of ritual abuse. However, I include these books as resources because I believe some of the information in each book is valuable. Hudson, Pamela, L.C.SW Ritual Child Abuse: Discovery, Diagnosis, and Treatment. Saratoga, CA: RE Publishers, 1991. This book is designed to help professionals work with children who have been ritually abused. Includes a survey of ritual abuse symptoms and abuse allegations. Available from RE Publishers, P.O. Box 2008, Saratoga, CA 95070. Phone: (408) 866-6303. Kahaner, Larry. Cults That Kill. New York: Warner Books, 1988. A book combining quotes from a variety of police officers and professionals who investigate satanic crime. Some of the book addresses allegations of ritual abuse. Raschke, Carl. Painted Black. San Francisco: HarperCollins, 1990. An in-depth examination of satanism in America. Sackeim, David K. and Susan E. Devine. Out of Darkness. New York: Lexington Books, 1992. Addresses in detail the therapeutic, legal, and historical issues surrounding ritual abuse. Smith, Michelle and Larry Pazder, M.D. Michelle Remembers. New York: Pocket Books, 1980. A personal account of a child abused in a satanic cult, as told by the survivor and her therapist. Strong Christian focus, including the use of exorcism. Spencer, Judith. Suffer the Child. New York: Pocket Books, 1989. A personal account of a child abused in a satanic cult. The book was not actually written by the survivor. On Cult Mind Control Galanter, Marc. Cults: Faith, Healing and Coercion. New York: Oxford University Press, 1989. Hassan, Steven. Combating Mind Control. Rochester, VT. Park Street Press, 1988. General: Child Abuse and Recovery Bass, Ellen and Laura Davis. The Courage to Heal. New York: HarperCollins, 2d ed., 1992. An excellent book for any person confronting sexual abuse memories from childhood. The bibliography in the 1992 edition is extensive and thorough. I encourage every survivor to get a copy of this book. Bass, Ellen and Louise Thornton. I Never Told Anyone. New York: HarperCollins, 1991. Another excellent book describing the pain and betrayal experienced by incest survivors. The introduction to the book describes in detail societal influence and attitudes regarding sexual abuse. An empowering book. Davis, Laura. The Courage to Heal Workbook. New York: HarperCollins, 1990. An excellent book that helps survivors actively participate in their own healing process. Gil, Eliana. Outgrowing the Pain. Walnut Creek, CA: Launch Press, 1984. A simplistic book for survivors of child abuse. BOOKLETS AND PAPERS On Ritual Abuse Bottoms, L. Bette, Phillip R. Shaver, and Gail S. Goodman. Profile of Ritualistic and Religion-Related Abuse Allegations in the United States. A professional paper presented at the ninety-ninth annual convention of the American Psychological Association, San Francisco, CA, August 19, 1991. Researchers mailed postcards to over six thousand members of the American Psychological Association in an attempt to assess the problem of ritual abuse in America. Results are presented. Cook, Caren. Understanding Ritual Abuse. This booklet is based on a study of thirty-three survivors of ritual abuse. Available from RA Project, 5431 Auburn Boulevard, #215, Sacramento, CA 95841. Germain, Ann-Marie. Master's thesis. Ritual
[CTRL] GunFree Camps
-Caveat Lector- GunFree Camps The upcoming trend. Sign up now or have your congressman sign you up. Be the first on your block to join. Hurry! Make your reservations now! http://www.sihope.com/~jpenrod/990605.html - ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Always remember the Catholics paid taxes to send protestant children to school, yet built their own schools for their children.and got no tax breaks on that. Religion is politics...you cannot differentiate between the two - for example, Jesus kicked the gamblers out of the Temple, and look what happened o him. Fidel Castro kicked the Mafia out of their gambling temples, and he is still on a hit list..same people, remember it was Judas who had the bag So speaking of bag men; exmple of corruption in governmentit is pay back time. This James Carville who called Paula Jones "trailer trash"this is symbolic of how the present administration feels about the less affluent.this man is now doing advertisements for Alka Seltzer, and appeared in a movienow normally, in the old days to return favors, the Mafia would let certain people win at the gambling tables. Now how much was Carville paid to go on TV and call Paula Jones "trailer trash" because she got involved innocently, in Clinton's crude, vulger, sick life.and who really paid when Ms. Jones won her lawsuit.why friends and did Mr. Clinton pay taxes on these "gifts"or were these political contributions.did he pay taxes on the gifts he received from China where the secrets of the neutron bomb were given awayyet he would like to take guns away from law abiding citizens. Add all this crap up, and the corruption begins in the Oval Officeand the revenge is, take out the Christian Coalition, and get them where it hurts.meanwhile Carville, how much will he pay in taxes, this ugly, obscene, liar who now is becoming a movie star - even though minute roles.pay back time. Tax the Churchbiblical law, render unto Ceasar.but remember, Clinton.the pervert responsible for these decision on the part of the fedsfor we all know in our hearts, federal judges are the worst judges money can buy. Goodbye Clintonand for a laughtonite Mrs. Clinton appeared with the President, along with the New York Yankeesbut, take a look at the faces of the team, they were not laughing, and believe me, the Clintons looked rather uncomfortablebut remember too, organized crimes owns organized sports. So it is not only pay back time, it would seem that the Clintons would now use the New York Yankees, to help push this carpetbagger into office. If these people have no property, no home other than the White House.and have lived off the public for all those years.where are they registered to vote? As the home base, of course.Cinton vacated the Governor's Office.but where did they hang there hat to meet qualifications to run for office. Oh how I want that bunch to go back to Arkansas colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Reptoids under NY and deep underground bases in USA]
Hi there, You may have had this one pass your way, but I heard there was an underground base under the Cathedral of St John the Divine at Manhattan. Does anyone know any more about this please. Nicky http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html Rest of story at this url AC: If Phil is right, and all this hooks up to the deep underground base that he was offered the plans to build back in 1979, and that what this other man told me in private that there is a lot of human slave labor in these deep underground bases being used by these aliens, and that a lot of this slave labor is children. He said that when the children reach the point that they are unable to work any more, they are slaughtered on the spot and consumed. DA: Consumed by who? AC: Aliens. Again, this is not from me, but from a man that gave his life to get this information out. He worked down there for close to 20 years, and he knew everything that was going on. DA: Hmmm. Who do these aliens eat? AC: They specifically like young human children, that haven't been contaminated like adults. Well, there is a gentleman out giving a lot of information from a source he gets it from, and he says that there is an incredible number of children snatched in this country. DA: Over 200,000 each year. AC: And that these children are the main entree for dinner. DA: How many Draconians are down there? AC: I have heard the figure of 150,000 just in the New York area. DA: Underneath New York? AC: Yes. In some kind of underground base there. DA: Interesting. Now, you've seen pictures of these things? AC: I have seen them face to face. DA: You have? AC: Yes. From some information that has been put out by a group or team that also works in these underground bases that is trying to get information out to people that love this country, there is a war that is going on under our feet, and above our heads, that the public doesn't know anything about, and its between these alien forces and the humans that are trying to fight them. DA: What other types have you seen? AC: The ones that I have seen are the big-eyed Greys and the Reptilians. DA: What do these Reptilians look like? AC: There are three different types. DA: Can you tell us how you happened to come into contact with them? AC: When I lived in Florida in Panama City, at that particular time the Gulf Breeze sightings were going on, and the area was virtually a hotbed for strange events. I had neighbors that were into watching UFOs and getting information about them. One night about 2:30 am, my neighbor called me and was absolutely frantic, and wanted me to come over there. I ran over there and went in the front door, and she and her boyfriend, who is a commercial airline pilot, were in the living room scared out of their wits. I looked over at her, and her eyeballs are rolling back in her head and she was passing out and sliding down the wall. Her boyfriend was trying to tell me what was going on, and I was feeling this incredible energy that felt like it was trying to penetrate my head. So, I grabbed both of them and pulled them both outside, where we stood for a while and talked... DA: Some people would say that this is a case of demon possession... AC: Oh, no. There was radiation in the room. The next day all of her plants were dead. So, there was a massive amount of energy focused on that room. Anyway, after about an hour had passed, we had discussed what went on and decided to go back into the house. They had both been in bed and were pulled out of their bed during the night. All they remember is a flash of light in their faces and the next thing they know they're both scared to death. But, when we went back into the house, I noticed that the man had a small palm-print on his side with fingers that must have been 10 inches long, with claw marks on the end that were burned into his side. The next day, that area was so swollen that he could not touch it. I have video pictures of these things on his side. The prints were there from someone bending down from behind him and pulling him out of bed. They had been laking love, and somebody lifted him off of her and left these burns there. Anyway, they were both totally flipped out. I finally got them calmed down enough to ket me go home. I went home and went to bed. The next thing I know, I woke up and there is this "thing" standing over my bed. He had wrap-around yellow eyes with snake pupils, and pointed ears and a grin that wrapped around his head. He had a silvery suit on, and this scared the living daylights out of me. I threw the covers over my head and started screamingI mean, here is this thing with a Cheshire-cat grin and these funky glowing eyes...this is too much. I have seen that kind of being on more than one occasion. DA: What else can you say about it? AC: Well, he had a hooked nose and he was very human looking, other than the eyes, and had kind of grayish skin. Later on in 1991, I was working in a building in a
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Reptoids under NY and deep underground bases in USA]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may have had this one pass your way, but I heard there was an underground base under the Cathedral of St John the Divine at Manhattan. Does anyone know any more about this please. It was there a year and a half ago, at my last visit. And for some reason there was a fire engine locked in a cage in the middle of the street, just across the avenue from St. John's. Anyway, the access to the base is through the rectory. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN COALITION LOSES TAX EXEMPT STATUS
-Caveat Lector- Well, Stokely Carmichael said "getta gun"...and Elridge Cleaver said "the iniquities of the fathers shall be visited upon the children", quoting scripture at that... Getta sword, getta gunsomebody was listening to Stokely too were they not? I think the children are being punished for the iniquitites of the fathers.it is a biblical curse, and the assassins are mind controlled kids given drugs and like the assassin of old, are pushed over the brink at will. I do not like god shouters in a public school; a private prayer never hurt anybody, however.buy getta gun, getta sword Everything in this country is organized but the people; but this evil element is now after your kids.maybe I will join the Pink Panthers, and maybe they should free Jamal. Someone is using the bible to kill our kids...and the trigger word resides therein. Gideon' spies have accumulated a lot of golden earrings; but it looks now as though they are going for the crown. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Contrails over N. Ca and Nevada Now!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] This chemtrail is now directly above my house and at an apparent altitude of 3000-5000 feet. More discontinuous low level contrails to the north over Sonoma County. Batten down the hatches! Funny you should mention this. As I drove through Santa Rosa [Sonoma County] around noon yesterday [Wednesday] I noted a number of people standing in a mall parking lot, pointing at the eastern sky. I looked that way and saw, at an apparent altitude of 5000 feet, a pattern of rainbow-colored contrails over Sonoma Mountain. The sky was otherwise lightly cloudy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
