[CTRL] Seditious Speech vs. First Amendment

1999-08-17 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- "Federal appeals court said Abdel-Rahman crossed the line beyond freedom of speech by telling a defendant that it was his duty to bomb the United Nations. " `While the state may not criminalize the expression of views, it may outlaw verbal encouragement, inducement, or

[CTRL] CIA/Contra Death Camp

1999-08-17 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- "Col. Raul Escoto, head of Honduran military intelligence, denied that his country's troops were involved in torture at El Aguacate. "Only Nicaraguans and American officers who were training the Contras in war tactics occupied the base. No Honduran was allowed to enter

Re: [CTRL] On Dealing with Idiots

1999-08-17 Thread Nicola Molloy
-Caveat Lector- I mean words like these therapists use like experiential, etc Here's something to make your brain ache. eg Religious nut reckoning s/he is the only one that's right.I'm going to heaven - you hell. Ans: We have evolved with passionate loyalties to large units, which ensure

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Hate crimes not big problem in race relations, ...

1999-08-17 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Caveat Lector- Bob wrote: This is, quite literally, blaming the victim. The kinds of crime the New Century people are talking about are generally motivated by greed, poverty, drug addiction, or some combination thereof. Hate crimes are motivated by fear and power...or perhaps fear of losing

[CTRL] Banker$ and Generals: Economic Interests Behind the Yugoslavian Conflict

1999-08-17 Thread Lloyd Miller
-Caveat Lector- Our name was taken in vain the subject article by Al Hidell which appeared in _Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader_ Issue 21, Fall 1999 (page 28), PO Box 1041, Providence, RI, 02901 [$20.00/year]: "The A-albionic conspiracy research group takes the LaRouche viewpoint a

Re: [CTRL] Is Your PC Y2K Ready? (make it SO in 7 easy steps)

1999-08-17 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- I would suggest people actually LEARN something about computers before disseminating such garbage How a date DISPLAYS has absolutely NOTHING to do with how it is defined to the operating system... An OS can be Y2K compliant, and still display a 2-digit date...if it is

Re: [CTRL] The Protocols

1999-08-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/16/1999 12:19:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do omnipotent conspiracies exist that control information, politics, economics? Unknowable - if such conspiracies DO exist, all one THINKS one knows about them derives from

Re: [CTRL] Is Your PC Y2K Ready? (make it SO in 7 easy steps)

1999-08-17 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, YnrChyldzWyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- I would suggest people actually LEARN something about computers before disseminating such garbage GRAGAGE!@!@! I _BEG_ your pardon! What I said there, WORKS...i.e., I did it! And, FUCKJ YOU TOO How a

[CTRL] Congress: America's Criminal Class - Part II

1999-08-17 Thread K
-Caveat Lector- http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Aug1999/081799/criminalclass2- 081799.htm Congress: America's Criminal Class - Part II Virginia's bombastic Congressman Jim Moran: "I like to hit people" (EDITORS NOTE: This is the second in a five-part series on how the laws which apply to

Re: [CTRL] Oil vs.Oil

1999-08-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/16/1999 4:21:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The independent producers who lodged the cheap oil complaint argued that Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela and Iraq had been dumping cheap oil in violation of U.S. trade laws, at the

Re: [CTRL] War on Drugs

1999-08-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/17/1999 1:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warnings that the United States was preparing a major military intervention in the conflict between the Colombian government and the country's 40-year-old guerrilla movement grew

Re: [CTRL] Suspect's Ethnicity A 'Major Factor' in China Spy Probe ...

1999-08-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/17/1999 2:55:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Federal investigators targeted physicist Wen Ho Lee as an espionage suspect largely because he is a Chinese American and they still do not have a "shred of evidence" that he leaked

[CTRL] Fwd: THE TRUTH BEHIND JFK's MURDER

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
Original Message Subject: THE TRUTH BEHIND JFK's MURDER - THANK YOU (Blue ey156) for thisINCREDIBLE INFORMATION!!! Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:40:52 EDT Rodney Stich's book "Defrauding America" tells of a "deep-cover CIA officer" assigned to a counter-intelligence unit,

Re: [CTRL] On Dealing with Idiots

1999-08-17 Thread Bill
-Caveat Lector- Ah. Well I never learned and had to sound it out. :)_} Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- Takes one to know one. snort "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" is the correct spelling. Idiot savant that I am at times, I learned to spell it as a very young child. Tenorlove

[CTRL] OEN 8/17/99

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From A Letter to Felice (November 1, 1912) by Franz Kafka My life consists,

[CTRL] Introduction to the Chinese Edition - Grabbe

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/chinintr.htm A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/chinintr.htm"Introduction to the Chinese Edition/A - International Financial Markets Introduction to the Chinese Edition The chairman of a finance department of a major university once told

[CTRL] [Fwd: [patrickcrusade] Law News Network -- Bush Affidavit Refuted]

1999-08-17 Thread Bill
-Caveat Lector- Marla Mazoch wrote: http://www.lawnewsnetwork.com/stories/A4538-1999Aug16.html Bush Affidavit Refuted Statement in whistle-blower case at issue Janet Elliott Texas Lawyer August 16, 1999 Gov. George W. Bush's sworn denial that he had no conversation with any Service

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Pinay Cercle- Bilderbergers Evil Sister?]

1999-08-17 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Antoine Pinay was extremely influential in Europe and the United States, where he had forged links with President Nixon. Pinay attended the Bilderberg inaugural meeting in Oosterbeek, Holland during May 1952. By 1969, Pinay

[CTRL] Proper Y2K tests to do on your machine

1999-08-17 Thread Don Allen
-Caveat Lector- At 08:13 AM 08/17/1999 -0400, YnrChyldzWyld wrote: I would suggest people actually LEARN something about computers before disseminating such garbage How a date DISPLAYS has absolutely NOTHING to do with how it is defined to the operating system... An OS can be Y2K

Re: [CTRL] Banker$ and Generals: Economic Interests Behind the Yu...

1999-08-17 Thread Al Hidell
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/17/99 7:21:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our name was taken in vain the subject article by Al Hidell which appeared in _Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader_ Issue 21, Fall 1999 (page 28), PO Box 1041, Providence, RI, 02901

Re: [CTRL] Ohhh Scary...A socialist for Senate!

1999-08-17 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 11:03 PM Subject: Ohhh Scary...A socialist for Senate! Weekdays With Bernie Vermont Waits for Sanders to Decide About Senate Campaign By Tim Curran Ha Ha. Bernie "the

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] New York, New York]

1999-08-17 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- jabr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Bill: It has been awhile since I was last on CTRL and I just re-subscribed yesterday. HEY!! Welcome back, Judith!! We've missed ya... :^D Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

[CTRL] X-Files version of history is backed by CIA report

1999-08-17 Thread Hilary A. Thomas
-Caveat Lector- ISSUE 1544 Tuesday 17 August 1999 X-Files version of history is backed by CIA report By Michael Smith THE CIA has released a secret history of its investigations into UFO sightings, revealing that there was more truth in the popular television series The X-Files than is often

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Pinay Cercle- Bilderbergers Evil Sister?]

1999-08-17 Thread C Davis
-Caveat Lector- That's because Otto is currently King of the World. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its

[CTRL] NYT: An Oddity in Space Baffles Experts

1999-08-17 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- from The New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/081799sci-mystery-star.html August 17, 1999 An Oddity in Space Baffles Experts By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD very night at their telescopes, astronomers invite the universe to a battle of wits. Surprise

Re: [CTRL] New York, New York

1999-08-17 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. Most of us know absolutely nothing about the business until a loved one dies, then we are dragged into a number of unpleasant considerations in order "to make arrangements" for the recently departed. Of

Re: [CTRL] New York, New York

1999-08-17 Thread jabr
-Caveat Lector- Yeah, I hear you on this. I hadn't meant to wax and wane so much about Manhattan -- but truth is, according to MOB syndicate history books, NYC is controlled by 26 Mafia families. This includes a pop of about 13 million (or more now) living stacked into 5 burroughs (Manhattan,

[CTRL] American, As Language

1999-08-17 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- The Old Cause by Joseph R. Stromberg August 17, 1999 POLITICS AND THE AMERICAN LANGUAGE If the truth is the "first casualty of war," then the honest use of language must be "collateral damage." George Orwell rather famously dealt with some of the details in his

[CTRL] The Burying Business (was: Re: [Re: [CTRL] New York, New York])

1999-08-17 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. http://www.philly.com/specials/99/burying/html/bury02.asp The Burying Business: Why funeral costs stay so high Examining rituals and

[CTRL] [MC] Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects

1999-08-17 Thread DIG alfred webre
-Caveat Lector- Subj:[MC] Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects Date: 99-08-17 17:07:06 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Thomas) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Thomas) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The following assertions are undocumented but the

[CTRL] Blood of the Brits

1999-08-17 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Via news.excite.com Canada, United States ban British as blood donorsUpdated 5:07 PM ET August 17, 1999By Lisa Richwine ROCKVILLE, Md. (Reuters) - Blood banks in the United States and Canada were ordered Tuesday to stop collecting donations from people who lived in or

[CTRL] Prison population (fwd)

1999-08-17 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message --- Prison And Jail Population Hits Record High Updated 4:48 PM ET August 15, 1999 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. adult prisons and jails held a record 1.82 million inmates last year, meaning one out of every

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Hate crimes not big problem in race relations, ...]

1999-08-17 Thread jabr
-Caveat Lector- At the risk of sounding squishy and unreal, bent upon the paranormal -- perhaps, just perhaps, hate crimes are none of the normal things. Supposing that a mind control force, synthetic telepathy and all, is staging the hate crimes? Suppose that one person assaulting the other

[CTRL] Mercurialania

1999-08-17 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Budding Campaign Ads urge pot users to fight arrests, promote legalization (By Dan Reed , Mercury News Staff Writer) SAN FRANCISCO -- Show a little self-respect, potheads, urges an advertising campaign begun Monday. It's time to come out of the closet and

Re: [CTRL] The False Memory Debate: Social Science or Social Backlash?

1999-08-17 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- Hi ! Below please find an article on the "FMS" debate. Sincerely, Neil Brick Excerpts from http://www.mentalhealth.com/mag1/p5h-mem3.html General Articles - The False Memory Debate: Social Science or Social Backlash? By Judith L. Herman and Mary R. Harvey The Harvard

[CTRL] fw: ON AMMONIA AND THE POPULATION EXPLOSION

1999-08-17 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Science-Week [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 2:20 PM Subject: ScienceWeek - Complimentary Copy Attached, with our compliments, is a copy of the current issue of ScienceWeek. Claire Haller Managing

Re: [CTRL] Ohhh Scary...A socialist for Senate!

1999-08-17 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- I know from first hand that Bernie's "radical" spin is just that - spin and hot air. Although I am not a socialist - neither is Bernie. ===Oh, I agree with you 100%, and I intended to put the word socialist in parentheses...would've made a big difference... Bill. DECLARATION

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Hate crimes not big problem in race relations, ...]]

1999-08-17 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- jabr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At the risk of sounding squishy and unreal, bent upon the paranormal -- perhaps, just perhaps, hate crimes are none of the normal things. snip Don't know that I'd go THAT far, Judith, but I do agree that hate crimes are in

[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 17

1999-08-17 Thread William Shannon
UNDERNEWS Sam Smith August 17, 1999 The Progressive Review 1739 Conn. Ave. NW Washington DC 20009 202-232-5544 Fax: 202-234-6222 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INDEX: http://prorev.com RECENT UNDERNEWS: http://prorev.com/indexa.htm TODAY'S HEADLINE NEWS: http://prorev.com/altnews.htm THE REVIEW

[CTRL] Aye, Aye, Spy

1999-08-17 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- ISSUE 1543Monday 16 August 1999 'The perfect spy, the perfect husband' PicturePictureThe widow of Kim Philby, the MI6 traitor, insists that their marriage was almost embarrassingly idyllic. He would, however, never share the secrets of his work as a KGB operative - or

[CTRL] Fwd: Bush family involvement-Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
8.17.99 Bush family involvement in Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son Copyright 1999 NewsHawk Inc. First-- We regret an error made in a news bulletin issued 8.9.99; entitled "MOSSAD and JFK Jr Crash" in the second to last paragraph of the article. (Note: this is NOT John DiNardo's piece

[CTRL] Fwd: Furrow Military email/URGENT: Pentagon dumps DDN !!!

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
As always, . . . Om K - 8.17.99 Dissecting Furrow's Email Address -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's NOT forget this email address for Buford Furrow was ACTIVE until a little more than 24 hours after Buford turned himself in to his FBI handlers at their Las Vegas office on Wednesday, August 11.

Re: [CTRL] Search Engine Crap

1999-08-17 Thread Dave
-Caveat Lector- Mary wrote: "I know that the governments want to get their paws on the internet for the purposes of taxes, surveillence, and to make it more favorable for the big corporate guys. It could very well start out as a 'stamp out porno' campaign." == It has already

[CTRL] GAO REPORT QUESTIONS SCIENCE BEHIND FDAS ACTION

1999-08-17 Thread Dave
-Caveat Lector- WASHINGTON, D.C. - House Science Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner stated, "I am concerned about the apparent lack of scientific data behind the FDA’s actions. For the FDA – one of the most important regulatory agencies in government – to use such poor science for a

[CTRL] a Bush presidency?

1999-08-17 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- What is going to happen to America if Bush becomes president? Since Al Gore, for the most part, has completely distanced himself from the core constituency of the Democratic party, and it looks like he has little chance of changing his act, which consists of more of "the same

Re: [CTRL] New York, New York (Mortuary)

1999-08-17 Thread Clifford L Davis
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:34:02 -0500 William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. and the possibilities for abuse are certainly there. Yes they are. My Uncle as well as many other

[CTRL] FindLaw Legal Grounds - Tue, August 17, 1999

1999-08-17 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- Ohio Supremes Sour on Tort Reform Ohio Court Nullifies Damage-Suit Curbs Washington Post The Ohio Supreme Court yesterday struck down a law that had sharply curtailed the ability of individuals to sue for damages, concluding that the state legislature violated the

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bush family involvement-Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son

1999-08-17 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Hi Jabr, Those particular points were not brought up. They're certainly intriguing ones. I posted that it was obvious J. Kennedy's death was an assassination. My particular interpretation was that the elite decided to eliminate him now rather than wait for him to get into

Re: [CTRL] New York, New York (Mortuary)

1999-08-17 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Thank you for the response, Mr. Davis. I've suspected as much. Certainly, in my former state of California, the mortuary-cemetery biz (scam) has become a fine art. My stepmother once worked for Rose Hills...She would listen to the salesmen discuss their trade in private. She

[CTRL] SPOTLIGHT Debunks U.N. Police Force In Texas Rumor.

1999-08-17 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- UN Troops Planning to Move on U.S.? The Internet is notorious for spreading tall tales, but you can always count on The SPOTLIGHT to get to the bottom of these stories-fact or fiction-and only publish what is the truth. EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT By Christopher J. Petherick

[CTRL] [7] BETRAYAL

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany Arthur D. Rahn Former Chief Editor of Intelligence Office of the Director of Information Control Office of Military Government, Germany Book Knowledge Warsaw, Poland pps. 237 (no date) out-of-print - --When my friend

[CTRL] [3] The Great Heroin Coup

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence, International Fascism Henrik Kruger Jerry Meldon, Translator South End Press©1980 Box 68 Astor Station Boston, MA 02123 ISBN 0-89608-0319-5 240pps - one edition - out-of-print Orginally published in Danish Smukke

[CTRL] [10b] The Treason of the Senate

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Treason of the Senate David Graham Phillips Intruoduction by George E. Mowry Judson A Grenier©1964 All Rights Reserved Quadrangle Books 180 North Wacker Drive Chicago LCCN 64-21838 --[10b]-- The meetings of the Gridiron Club of Washington newsmen and

[CTRL] [10a] The Treason of the Senate

1999-08-17 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Treason of the Senate David Graham Phillips Intruoduction by George E. Mowry Judson A Grenier©1964 All Rights Reserved Quadrangle Books 180 North Wacker Drive Chicago LCCN 64-21838 --[10a]-- INTRODUCTION PUBLICATION of David Graham Phillips's "The Treason

[CTRL] BBC- Pentagon Re-Opens Di File.

1999-08-17 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- Wednesday, August 18, 1999 Published at 00:34 GMT 01:34 UK Pentagon reopens Diana file Pentagon reopens Diana file Defence chiefs in the United States have agreed to reopen intelligence files to look for references to Diana, Princess of Wales, following a request from Harrods

Re: [CTRL] New York, New York (Mortuary)

1999-08-17 Thread jabr
-Caveat Lector- Some entity I am convinced now is usurping body parts probably from every newly dead corpse for consumption. I have no evidence, so pardon my inate bluntness about this. My father made the point as we visited the mortician making up my grandmother in 1989 that these people he

Re: [CTRL] HORRORS The Protocols

1999-08-17 Thread jabr
-Caveat Lector- I don't agree with these statements. I do believe "entities" can quell their octopus-like computer arms and "manage" politically and economically, whole countries and city-states. In fact I go further than this -- the Manchurian Candidate model -- the use of individual humans

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #4

1999-08-17 Thread ric carter
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990817d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No brittle mentalities disintegrated during

[CTRL] Trading Wars

1999-08-17 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- www.wsws.org - WSWS : News Analysis : World Economy As WTO prepares for "Millennium Round" World trade conflicts intensify By Nick Beams 18 August 1999 Back to screen version An article published in

[CTRL] Green Groans

1999-08-17 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- www.wsws.org - WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Germany New faction in the German Green party Right-wing young Greens go on the offensive By Ludwig Niethammer 18 August 1999 Back to screen version The

Re: [CTRL] Evolving concepts and evolving worlds

1999-08-17 Thread Dave
-Caveat Lector- Straight from the horse's mouth. Good enough for you, Mr. Ed ? "World Federalists" ... like the Bush family, the Rockefellers, the members of the Council on Foriegn Relations, the Bilderbergers, the members of the Trilateral Commission, and a pile of others- are and have

Re: [CTRL] Clinton/. Bush Cocaine Problems

1999-08-17 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- It looks as if we might have a President and a Governor with cocaine problems...this is NEWS. "Rumors" says Mr Bush. These rumors have been around for years...its time the evidence was examined. When the same information comes from an LAPD Narcotics Detective, a