[CTRL] Seditious Speech vs. First Amendment
-Caveat Lector- "Federal appeals court said Abdel-Rahman crossed the line beyond freedom of speech by telling a defendant that it was his duty to bomb the United Nations. " `While the state may not criminalize the expression of views, it may outlaw verbal encouragement, inducement, or conspiracy to take violent action,' the court ruled. Court Upholds Colonial-Era Charge By LARRY NEUMEISTER .c The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) - A life prison term for a radical Islamic cleric accused of plotting with a band of terrorists to blow up New York landmarks and kill Egypt's president is not too harsh, a federal appeals court ruled. ``To plan the waging of war against the United States is manifestly a grievous assault on the American people, meriting extremely serious punishment,'' the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Monday in upholding the sentences for Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman and nine of his followers. The sheik and a second defendant were sentenced to life in prison while the rest received sentences ranging from 30 years to 57 years. Although not the first ruling to uphold the constitutionality of a Civil War-era seditious conspiracy law, Monday's decision demonstrated how the law can be used to prosecute terrorists. The law makes it illegal to plan to wage war against the government. ``When one considers the huge scale of death and destruction contemplated by the defendants as part of their war against the United States, those sentences are neither plainly unreasonable ... nor unjust,'' the court said. Abdeen Jabara, a lawyer who has worked on the Egyptian cleric's case, said Monday it was too early to comment on the ruling. The appeals court also rejected a defense argument that the sheik was merely prosecuted for preaching or exercising his First Amendment rights. Abdel-Rahman was prosecuted because he sought to solicit or persuade others to commit violent crimes, the appeals court said. The court said the evidence against Abdel-Rahman showed he crossed the line beyond expression of unpopular ideas by telling one defendant to carry out an assassination and another that it was his duty to bomb the United Nations. ``It remains fundamental that while the state may not criminalize the expression of views, it may nonetheless outlaw encouragement, inducement or conspiracy to take violent action,'' the court said. The blind, 61-year-old cleric was sentenced in 1995 to life in prison without parole. Also sentenced to life was El Sayyid Nosair, who was convicted in connection with the 1990 assassination of Jewish Defense League founder Rabbi Meir Kahane. The trial focused on Kahane's death and on a 1993 plot to assassinate Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and blow up the United Nations, FBI headquarters and two tunnels and a bridge connecting New Jersey to Manhattan. Marvin Smilon, a spokesman for U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, called the appeals court ruling ``an important milestone in the continuing efforts by this office and the FBI's Joint Terrorist Task Force to apprehend and prosecute those who commit and plot to commit terrorist acts to the fullest extent that our laws allow.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA/Contra Death Camp
-Caveat Lector- "Col. Raul Escoto, head of Honduran military intelligence, denied that his country's troops were involved in torture at El Aguacate. "Only Nicaraguans and American officers who were training the Contras in war tactics occupied the base. No Honduran was allowed to enter without permission.'' Questions Remain From Ex-Contra Base By FREDDY CUEVAS .c The Associated Press EL AGUACATE, Honduras (AP) - What remains of the El Aguacate military base is a weed-covered airstrip, six dilapidated buildings, memories of some friendly blond-haired men and wrenching questions about torture and killings. For five years the base, used by U.S. allies in their Cold War fight against communism, had been abandoned and seemingly forgotten by everyone but residents, who wanted the government to let them farm the land. Now authorities are questioning what went on at the U.S.-built base. Honduran officials have discovered graves on the site, and they said they believe political prisoners may have been tortured, killed and buried there. Forensics experts from Germany and the United States are due in September to examine bodies found at the site - one of several in Honduras being searched on the basis of witnesses' testimonies or records. If the accounts are confirmed, they may give rise to some uncomfortable questions: Who were the killers - Honduran soldiers fighting a dirty war against the country's leftists, or Contras from neighboring Nicaragua trying to topple their own country's leftist Sandinista government? And what did U.S. officials know about what was going on there? The United States built the 3,100-acre base in 1983, just 80 miles east of the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa. It was used to train and supply Nicaragua's Contra rebels, 14,000 of whom were based in Honduras. The Contras left Honduras in 1990 after a peace agreement was signed and the Sandinistas were voted out of office. The Honduran Army took over one-third of the base, using the farm land to feed its troops. But they abandoned the base in 1994 when the agricultural project failed. Since then, the government said, drug traffickers have been using the airstrip. Human rights groups have said the base was used for interrogation and torture. Honduras' attorney general for human rights, Sandra Ponce, said last week that the base contained burial sites and cramped metal cells, which may have been used by the Honduran military to kill political prisoners. The government began searching the base after relatives of leftists who disappeared in the 1980s came forward and said that torture and killing had taken place at the base. The head of intelligence for the Honduran military, Col. Raul Escoto, denied that his country's troops were involved in torture at El Aguacate. ``That's false,'' he told The Associated Press. ``Here there were only Nicaraguans and U.S. officers that were training the Contras in war tactics ... no Honduran soldier or civilian was allowed to enter without permission.'' The extent of U.S. involvement at the base is also not clear; the Pentagon has declined to comment on the issue. The CIA during the mid-1980s helped train both the Contras and a Honduran military unit, Battalion 316, which was accused in the of kidnapping, torturing and killing Honduran leftists. Following a report by the Baltimore Sun in 1995 about CIA involvement with the unit, the CIA conducted an internal investigation that found its officials had underplayed abuses by the Honduran military in their reports to U.S. lawmakers. But the CIA inquiry found no evidence to support allegations that CIA officials had been present at torture sessions. Escoto said the Honduran military acted in accordance with U.S. wishes at the base because it feared losing economic aid. ``Honduras did what the United States wanted because it had no choice,'' he said. At least one resident remembers seeing foreigners at El Acuacate. Antonio Martinez, a 70-year-old peasant who lives in La Sosa, a nearby village, said ``the base was frequently visited by many men with blond hair and dark glasses that spoke English ... and were kind with the people.'' Ponce's office will look for answers when it begins digging at the site, possibly as early as this week. She said there may be more than 48 graves, some containing several bodies. Ponce wants to see if the El Aguacate base could help solve the disappearance of 184 people - mostly leftists - that have been attributed to the Honduran military. Among the missing is a Chicago-native priest-turned-guerrilla, James Francis Carney, who disappeared in 1982. So far, the identity of only one person at the site is known - Francisco Guzman Davila, a Contra shot down while dropping supplies to his comrades. ``That man was a Contra hero,'' Escoto said. ``The Contras took him to and buried him in El Acuacate after he died in a plane shot down in Nicaragua by the Sandinista army.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==
Re: [CTRL] On Dealing with Idiots
-Caveat Lector- I mean words like these therapists use like experiential, etc Here's something to make your brain ache. eg Religious nut reckoning s/he is the only one that's right.I'm going to heaven - you hell. Ans: We have evolved with passionate loyalties to large units, which ensure continuity and consolation for personal mortality. The world demands speciation that can adapt to extremes of heat and cold, varying gravity and pressure, in all the Sun-space that holds vast resources. That should ensure a speedy exit. lol Nicky Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- Takes one to know one. snort "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" is the correct spelling. Idiot savant that I am at times, I learned to spell it as a very young child. Tenorlove --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Nicky Are You Talking About: Supercalifragilisticexpealexdocious? _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Hate crimes not big problem in race relations, ...
-Caveat Lector- Bob wrote: This is, quite literally, blaming the victim. The kinds of crime the New Century people are talking about are generally motivated by greed, poverty, drug addiction, or some combination thereof. Hate crimes are motivated by fear and power...or perhaps fear of losing power. Being robbed at gunpoint may be frightening, but "it's only money," and you can always make more of that. The black man who was dragged to death in Texas because he was black can hardly get his life back. It doesn't surprise me that the Washington Times should publish this tripe; it fits their agenda very neatly. Bob Please; Bestowing victim status and justifying criminal acts in the same breath is not a good plan. When the criminal (your victim) is apprehended he simply yells "RACIST!" and here we are. Your opinion that I should not mind being robbed at gunpoint is not comforting. I worked for that money and I don't understand why you are allowed to decide whether the person stealing it should be punished. Perhaps you are volunteering to compensate the victims of crime? PNEALE1 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Banker$ and Generals: Economic Interests Behind the Yugoslavian Conflict
-Caveat Lector- Our name was taken in vain the subject article by Al Hidell which appeared in _Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader_ Issue 21, Fall 1999 (page 28), PO Box 1041, Providence, RI, 02901 [$20.00/year]: "The A-albionic conspiracy research group takes the LaRouche viewpoint a step further. In their view, Britain is indeed a major force working for world domination. However, they believe that there is another force battling Her Majesty behind-the-scenes: the Vatican. In the case of the Balkan conflict, it is interesting to note that the British are on the side of war, while the Vatican has repeatedly condemned the violence." Lloyd Responds:"Al Hidell" has it totally wrong on this one! The Vatican has not condemned the Balkans conflict other than to urge peace as usual! When one compares the Pope's shrill condemnation of the Gulf War (no blood for oil) backed-up by his US Bishops shouting the same, one can only presume that the Pope supports the Balkans war as a chess move in his Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals [EU] program and the Church's long-time rivalry with and desire to dominate the Eastern Orthodox Church! This Virgin Mary obsessed Pope has long cherished the Fatima prophesy of "converting Russia" to Roman Catholicism. Further, the Balkans war conforms nicely to the Pope's proposed alliance with Islam..."better a Saracen than a Gnostic" or the geopolitics of "faith versus modernism". Our analysis indicates that Britain switched sides in the Balkans mess [under the cover of putting the Labor Party in power] in a Geopolitical judo-move designed to array China and Russia against America. The original Bush-British policy was to support Belgrade in opposition to the Vatican-German-EU policy of supporting Catholic Croatia and Islamic Bosnia. After the Clinton victory in America, Britain's policy became untenable and had to be abandoned. Now, Britain in a clever judo-move is trying to induce America and the European Union (EU) to over-extend and crash on the rocks of a renewed anti-American block lead by Russia and China even while attempting to enshrine NATO as the overlord of the EU. It is very important to note that Britain was able to maintain its anti-Iraq policy [supported by the Queen herself in an address to Congress after the Gulf War] by the clever inside-outside strategy of supporting the impeachment drive within America and offering the friendly hand of fellow left-liberal Tony Blair in friendship from without. In spite of a disinclination and Vatican opposition, Clinton renewed and preserved the genocidal hot/cold war against Iraq. Hidell has a section head on page 28 that sums-up the essence of his misconceptions: "The US: Dominated or Dominant". Lloyd Responds: Of course, the US is dominant as the only "super power" nation state. The question should be, which social/economic power organs are dominant in determining its policies at this time? A-albionic thinks the Clinton Administration has primarily functioned at the behest of the Vatican based on Clinton's Georgetown-Jesuit-CIA introduction to world politics under the tutelage of Jesuit disinformation and propaganda agent, the Irishman Carroll Quigley. This situation was made possible by the connivance of the Rockefeller interests which are the long-time rivals of the Queen's "Empire of the City" financiers for world domination of natural resources, international trade, governments, and the major Corporations. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read.
Re: [CTRL] Is Your PC Y2K Ready? (make it SO in 7 easy steps)
-Caveat Lector- I would suggest people actually LEARN something about computers before disseminating such garbage How a date DISPLAYS has absolutely NOTHING to do with how it is defined to the operating system... An OS can be Y2K compliant, and still display a 2-digit date...if it is compliant, it will correctly interpret 01/01/00 as January 1, 2000 If it is NOT compliant, setting it to display a 4-digit date won't matter, as it will rollover to January 1, 1900 (or whatever earliest year the BIOS recognizes, usually sometime in the early 1980s) June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/16/1999 12:19:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do omnipotent conspiracies exist that control information, politics, economics? Unknowable - if such conspiracies DO exist, all one THINKS one knows about them derives from data that they control; thus the conspiratorialist is their dupe, manipulated by all their leaks, their disinfo campaigns. Not so, since even "grand" conspiracies can't control all information all the time. It is possible to get unmodified information and form an opinion. It is true though that since much of what is disseminated is controlled as disinformation (or truth if it suits their purpose) it is difficult to KNOW if any given conspiracy is in fact "real". It is not unknowable, just difficult to uncover And even more difficult to control are the clearly observable results of these conspiracies. It's kind of like knowing that a distant planet has a moon by observing distortion in its orbit. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is Your PC Y2K Ready? (make it SO in 7 easy steps)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, YnrChyldzWyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- I would suggest people actually LEARN something about computers before disseminating such garbage GRAGAGE!@!@! I _BEG_ your pardon! What I said there, WORKS...i.e., I did it! And, FUCKJ YOU TOO How a date DISPLAYS has absolutely NOTHING to do with how it is defined to the operating system... An OS can be Y2K compliant, and still display a 2-digit date...if it is compliant, it will correctly interpret 01/01/00 as January 1, 2000 If it is NOT compliant, setting it to display a 4-digit date won't matter, as it will rollover to January 1, 1900 (or whatever earliest year the BIOS recognizes, usually sometime in the early 1980s) June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Congress: America's Criminal Class - Part II
-Caveat Lector- http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Aug1999/081799/criminalclass2- 081799.htm Congress: America's Criminal Class - Part II Virginia's bombastic Congressman Jim Moran: "I like to hit people" (EDITORS NOTE: This is the second in a five-part series on how the laws which apply to ordinary Americans are often successfully ignored by members of Congress.) Part I -- Rep. Corrine Brown and a record of lies and deceit By the staff of Capitol Hill Blue Neighbors in the prosperous Del Rey residential area of Alexandria weren't surprised earlier this year when police cars showed up at the home of Democratic Congressman James Moran and his wife of 11 years. It wasn't the first time the cops had shown up. "There was always a lot of screaming going on there," said one neighbor. "They fought like cats and dogs." Mary Moran called the Alexandria police that June night and said her husband was attacking her. The police came, talked to both, and left. No charges were filed. The next day, Mary Moran filed for divorce, saying - among other things - that the five-term Congressman had abused her. Moran claimed the charges were "trumped up" and filed a counter suit for divorce the following month. But the incident is just the latest violent act by the bombastic Virginia congressman who has a history of bar brawls, physical assaults, threats, intimidation and even fistfights on the floor of the House of Representatives. And he has a history of getting away with it. Jay Armington remembers his first and only encounter with Moran, then mayor of Alexandria, in a bar near the Potomac River in 1988. "He and another guy went from arguing to shouting to fists in just a few minutes. One of my buddies pulled the other guy away and I grabbed the mayor," Armington recalls. Moran, he said, wheeled around and slammed him against the bar. "His cheeks were bulging and he was snorting like a bull," Armington said. "I realized I was looking into the eyes of a madman." Arne Wilkens tended bar in Alexandria, where Moran served as mayor of the city from 1985-1990. He says the Mayor often got into fights. "He was a bully and a thug," Wilkens said. "We'd call the cops, but they wouldn't do anything." Jonathan Schnapp, a former Alexandria resident, tried to file a criminal complaint with the Alexandria police after the Mayor threatened him following an argument outside a city council meeting. The cops just laughed. "They said they weren't going to risk their jobs by trying to arrest the Mayor," Schnapp said. Schnapp said he moved out of Alexandria because he felt both the Mayor and the police department were corrupt. Alexandria police refuse to discuss Moran's tenure as Mayor publicly, but several officers admitted privately that his behavior would have led to the arrest of "ordinary citizens." "The Mayor was clearly guilty of assault on more than one occasion," said one officer, who refused to be identified out of fear for his job. "But the word came down. The Mayor was off limits. Ordinary citizens go to jail. Not the Mayor." Winning a seat in Congress in 1990 didn't change Moran's violent ways. He got into more than one shoving match with other members of Congress, including Indiana Republican Dan Burton and California Republican Randy "Duke" Cunningham. Moran was an amateur boxer in his youth and told Washingtonian Magazine that had he not become a politician, he might have tried professional boxing because "I like to hit people." Supporters of the temperamental Congressman say he is just a "typical Irish rogue," charming one minute, belligerent the other. "Alexandria likes rogues," says one political supporter. "The city has a long, colorful history of flamboyant politicians. But political opponents say Moran is a "violent man, a time bomb who is always ticking and ready to go off." "He's always boiling," says Sam Asrets, a former Alexandria activist who opposed Moran on many issues during his term as mayor. "He knows he can get away with this because there's never any accountability," Asrets says. "He gets breaks that ordinary people don't get. Had he learned early on that there would be punishment for his behavior, he would have been a lot better off." Supporters say Moran deserves a break because his daughter, Dorothy, was diagnosed with brain and spinal cancer six years ago. The daughter, now 8, has gone into remission, but the Morans spent more than $15,000 on alternative care on top of $200,000 in insured treatment. However, Moran, who was also a stockbroker before becoming mayor of Alexandria, is nearly a million dollars in debt from failed investments and out-of-control spending patterns that go far beyond what the couple spent on their daughter. The financial problems have become a central part of the increasingly nasty divorce proceedings between Moran and his wife. Mary Moran, 44, went heavily into debt buying gifts and antiques the year her daughter was diagnosed with cancer. Moran also lost $120,000 in high-risk stock
Re: [CTRL] Oil vs.Oil
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/16/1999 4:21:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The independent producers who lodged the cheap oil complaint argued that Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela and Iraq had been dumping cheap oil in violation of U.S. trade laws, at the expense of their business. The group called Save Domestic Oil Inc. sought to trigger anti-dumping laws, which could have led to steep tariffs on about 60 percent of the oil imported into the United States. It was rejected for lack of broad support in the oil industry; and while the independent group said it would appeal, that would take years. The American Petroleum Institute, representing major producers, had opposed the trade move by the independents. Many years ago (before Reagan pulled the teeth of Public Television) when the PBS talk shows and documentaries really said something, I listened as a wheel from one of the big oil companies told a panel , "Of course, the United States would go to war to protect the oil business". At the time, I thought he was kooky, but that was before we went to war to save Kuwait's Democracy and the Bush family and friends' oil contacts and contracts. Maybe we're due for another conflict. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War on Drugs
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/17/1999 1:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warnings that the United States was preparing a major military intervention in the conflict between the Colombian government and the country's 40-year-old guerrilla movement grew more insistent as Washington prepared yet another high-level diplomatic tour to discuss the crisis in the Latin American nation. The Clinton Administration's "drug czar" Gen. Barry McCaffrey will commence a swing through Latin America beginning next week in an attempt to drum up support from regional governments for a more concerted international effort to bring the Colombian guerrillas to heel. They don't care. This is an opportunity for our arms manufacturers to sell their wares, and for our military to give themselves medals. They're going to make the jungles of South America safe for Democracy. (And they're talking about reinstituting the draft.) I know you all will be overcome by patriotism and be ready and willing to die to win the war for Generl McCafry(Sp?) and the rest of the folks who make a comfortable living from drugs. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Suspect's Ethnicity A 'Major Factor' in China Spy Probe ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/17/1999 2:55:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Federal investigators targeted physicist Wen Ho Lee as an espionage suspect largely because he is a Chinese American and they still do not have a "shred of evidence" that he leaked nuclear secrets to China, the former chief of counterintelligence at Los Alamos National Laboratory said yesterday. Typical American Government attitude. I remember when a guy I worked for at Hill AFB (he was a major), told me that when something big happened in Vietnam, the Wing Commander wanted him taken off as Intelligence Briefing Officer because he had been born in Germany. You want to know just what kind of loons run things, just think about it. Our full colonel didn't seem aware of what countries were involved in that wonderful Vietname "Conflice." Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: THE TRUTH BEHIND JFK's MURDER
Original Message Subject: THE TRUTH BEHIND JFK's MURDER - THANK YOU (Blue ey156) for thisINCREDIBLE INFORMATION!!! Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:40:52 EDT Rodney Stich's book "Defrauding America" tells of a "deep-cover CIA officer" assigned to a counter-intelligence unit, code-named Pegasus. This unit "had tape-recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy" from a tap on the phone of J. Edgar Hoover. The people on the tapes were "[Nelson] Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, [Lyndon] Johnson of Texas, George Bush and J. Edgar Hoover." Could George Bush be involved in the JFK assassination? In 1963, Bush was living in Houston, busily carrying out his duties as president of the Zapata Offshore oil company. He denied the existence of a note sent by the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover to "Mr. George Bush of the CIA." When news of the note surfaced, the CIA first said they never commented on employment questions, but later relented said yes, a "George Bush" was mentioned in the note, but that it was "another" George Bush, not the man who took office in the White House in 1988. Some intrepid reporters tracked down the "other" George Bush and discovered that he was just a lowly clerk who had shuffled papers for the CIA for about six months. He never received any interagency messages from anybody at the FBI, let alone the Queen Mary. It is also worth noting that a CIA code word for Bay of Pigs was Operation Zapata, and that two of the support vessels were named Barbara and Houston. Many say that George Bush was high up on the CIA ladder at the time, running proprietorial vehicles and placed in a position of command, responsible for many of the Cubans recruited into "service" at the time. All through the Iran-Contra affair, Felix Rodriguez, the man who captured and had Che Guevara killed for the CIA, always seemed to call Bush's office first. From The Realist (Summer, 1991): "Bush was working with the now-famous CIA agent, Felix Rodriguez, recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion A newly discovered FBI document reveals that George Bush was directly involved in the 1963 murder of President John Kennedy. The document places marksmen by the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas. Hopping from Houston to Miami weekly, Bush spent 1960 and '61 recruiting Cubans in Miami for the invasion "George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until he was appointed Director by former Warren Commission director and then president Jerry Ford in 1976. Logic suggests that is highly unlikely. Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being in the CIA. The CIA is a secret organization. No one ever admits to being a member. The truth is that Bush has been a top CIA official since before the 1961 invasion of Cuba, working with Felix Rodriguez. Bush may deny his actual role in the CIA in 1959, but there are records in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba that expose Bush's role..." On the Watergate tapes, June 23, 1972, referred to in the media as the 'smoking gun' conversation, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, were discussing how to stop the FBI investigation into the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried that the investigation would expose their connection to 'the Bay of Pigs thing.' Haldeman, in his book "The Ends of Power", reveals that Nixon always used code words when talking about the 1963 murder of JFK. Haldeman said Nixon would always refer to the assassination as 'the Bay of Pigs'. On that transcript we find Nixon discussing the role of George Bush's partner, Robert Mosbacher, as one of the Texas fundraisers for Nixon. On the tapes Nixon keeps referring to the 'Cubans' and the 'Texans.' The 'Texans' were Bush, Mosbacher and Baker. This is another direct link between Bush and evidence linking Nixon and Bush to the Kennedy assassination." This subject alone is staggering. It has been 35 years since this murder took place and we've had many leads (i.e. Oliver Stone's Movie "JFK", books, series "Men Who Killed Kennedy", etc.). We also have at our disposal DNA and forensic science available to finally put an end to all speculation and innuendo. Why is it that especially since the tragic death of JFK Jr that people are not screaming from the rooftops regarding this matter? Two days after JFK Jr was killed they listed in the Boston Sunday Globe an article with respect to the Russians responding to the Kennedy's so-called curse. Dated July 18, 1999 in the Boston Sunday Globe stated "The KGB reports state that the WEALTHY OIL TEXANS were behind this unsolved murder". This was enough to have the hairs raise! What is it going to take for the public to take a stand on this issue? After recently reading part of Colonel Prouty's book (the man who was portrayed as "X" on "JFK") - see the following site - A HREF="http://www.prouty.org/"The Col. L. Fletcher Prouty Reference Site/A it implied that THREE presidents
Re: [CTRL] On Dealing with Idiots
-Caveat Lector- Ah. Well I never learned and had to sound it out. :)_} Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- Takes one to know one. snort "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" is the correct spelling. Idiot savant that I am at times, I learned to spell it as a very young child. Tenorlove --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Nicky Are You Talking About: Supercalifragilisticexpealexdocious? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 8/17/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From A Letter to Felice (November 1, 1912) by Franz Kafka My life consists, and basically always has consisted, of attempts at writing, mostly unsuccessful. But when I didn't write, I was at once flat on the floor, fit for the dustbin. My energies have always been pitifully weak; even though I don't quite realize it, it soon became evident that I had to spare myself on all sides, renounce a little everywhere, in order to retain just enough strength for what seemed to me my main purpose. When I didn't do so (oh God, even on a holiday such as this, when I am acting as duty officer, there is no peace, just visitor after visitor, like a little hell let loose) but tried to reach beyond my strength, I was automatically forced back, wounded, humbled, forever weakened; yet this very fact which made me temporarily unhappy is precisely what gave me confidence in the long run, and I began to think that somewhere, however difficult to find, there must be a lucky star under which it would be possible to go on living. I once drew up a detailed list of the things I have sacrificed to writing, as well as the things that were taken from me for the sake of writing, or rather whose loss was only made bearable by this explanation. = Russian Follies Another Tough-Talking Russian Temp Today's fill-in from Rent-a-Prime-Minister calls for "calm and order". VLADIMIR PUTIN, the man named by President Yeltsin as his preferred successor, made a grim appeal for more discipline yesterday as he was confirmed as Russia's new prime minister. His speech during the parliamentary debate on his approval was tough on law and order, but revealed little about the dour former KGB spy who is being promoted by the Kremlin as the next president. State Duma deputies voted by a margin of 233 to 84 to confirm him as prime minister - a post that would wield considerable power were it not for Mr Yeltsin's habit of sacking those who hold it. Mr Putin, Russia's fifth head of government in 17 months, said: "No tasks can be completed without introducing elementary discipline in the country." He also called for "calm and order" and inveighed against the shadow economy. He asked to be judged by results, saying that only his government's achievements would grant him "the moral right to lay claim to the post of president". Duma debates on new premiers used to be showdowns between the president and the communist-dominated parliament. But there have been so many recently that the ritual has become surreal and the opposition no longer puts up a fight. Mr Putin, 46, succeeds Sergei Stepashin, whom Mr Yeltsin sacked a week ago after only 82 days in office, without explaining what he had done wrong. The new premier, who has a reputation as a shrewd bureaucrat, is seen as a tougher defender of Kremlin interests in the run-up to parliamentary and presidential elections. His appointment is widely regarded as a mark of the Kremlin's panic about the succession and as evidence of the fears of Mr Yeltsin's closest associates that they could face criminal investigation when he retires. Turning Mr Putin into a realistic candidate for president will be a major challenge, as his charisma-free performance in the Duma yesterday made only too obvious. For much of the session, he sat in the government box, unsmiling and alone. As deputies voted, he looked close to tears. Kremlin strategists have been trying to market Mr Putin as a latter-day Yuri Andropov, the late Soviet leader and KGB chief who masterminded a campaign for more discipline during a brief spell as Soviet leader. However, voters choosing a new president next year may prefer Yevgeny Primakov, another former intelligence chief and prime minister. Mr Primakov, 69, has called a press conference for today at which he is expected to announce his intention to lead a Centrist alliance in December's parliamentary elections. The spectacle of Mr Primakov teaming up with Yuri Luzhkov, the ambitious mayor of Moscow, in an electoral bloc will strike fear into the hearts of some Yeltsin aides. One well-informed Kremlin-watcher said: "The Kremlin hates Luzhkov - but it is afraid of Primakov." While outwardly loyal to Mr Yeltsin, Mr Primakov is thought to be bitter about his dismissal as premier in May, and is too close to the Communists for the Kremlin's liking. A decision to stand for parliament would be a strong hint that he is also considering a run for president. The London Telegraph, August 17, 1999 Wool Market Global Slump in Wool Continues Another basic commodity in oversupply Global wool production in 1998-99 fell to its lowest level for 40 years and is forecast to slide further over the next two years. This is a result of falling demand for wool, high world stocks and poor
[CTRL] Introduction to the Chinese Edition - Grabbe
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/chinintr.htm A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/chinintr.htm"Introduction to the Chinese Edition/A - International Financial Markets Introduction to the Chinese Edition The chairman of a finance department of a major university once told me he had learned "so much" from reading my textbook. I cynically thought: He has been a professor of finance for fifteen years. Why should he have anything to learn from an introductory textbook? Then a few minutes later he said: "But there is nothing new in it." Many people look at knowledge as a collection of objects, and the search for something "new" means discovery of a new thing, term, or product. But most of knowledge actually lies not in a mere cognizance of what things are, but rather in an understanding of the relationships or connections among them. Thats what economics is about. Thats what my book is about. I was not surprised that a finance chairman had learned so much from a book in which there was "nothing new." You may know what eurodollars are, or what options are, but understanding them is a different thing entirely. The first rule of teaching, the Tao Te Ching reminds us, is to create confusion in those who think they know. Out of this confusion can emerge understanding: a new way of seeing the relationships among familiar things. I myself learned very little of the information presented here in the classroom. Most of it I had to learn on my own: from other sources or my own observations. So when I wrote the book, I was writing it mostly to myself, to summarize what I was learning. To the extent I thought of it as a textbook, I tried to write the type of textbook I wished I had had in graduate school, but hadnt. Necessarily I wrote it simply to please myself, and while I hoped others would like it also, I had little assurance they would. For my writing a textbook aroused great hostility. Junior professors were not supposed to write textbooks. They were supposed to spend their time writing research papers on the trendy (and often absurd) theories of senior professors. Well, I chose not to follow that path. And I dont regret it. A number of those who advised me I was "doing the wrong thing" immediately adopted my book once it appeared. My few successes in life have all come from "doing the wrong thing." Does this book have any relevance for China? Perhaps. One might observe that the future development of China is heavily dependent on foreign investment. International business is increasingly important to the development of the local Chinese economy. An understanding of the financial markets and contracts prevalent in Europe, Japan, and the United States should be considered an essential prerequisite for any Chinese business manager. Of course the markets tolerate amateurs, but usually not in a way amateurs would like. Thats one reason to study this book. A second reason is intellectual. If China is to emerge from its economic isolation, it must understand what is happening in the rest of the world. And that includes understanding the often-baffling financial markets of the world. These require specific study. Simply reading the newspaper for many years will not do the trick. At the time of writing, Asia is very much in the worlds eye. Following on of the heels of the Asian financial crisis in the latter half of 1997, the burning question in Asia is whether there will be a devaluation of the renminbi. What should or will China do? Will the battered economies of South Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, and Hong Kong be allowed to sell their goods without significant competition from the Chinese mainland? Meanwhile, the Beijing government is debating the question whether it is time that banks be run like banks. The obvious answer, of course, is yes. But that doesnt mean the damage done by not running banks like banks can be easily undone. And that doesnt mean the speculation and build-up of debt in the coastal regions of China will casually disappear. This book gives a variety of tools for looking at these and similar issues. Its important not to let the veil of words--or the veil of business practice--get in the way. There was a famous finance professor of my acquaintance who hated derivative contracts. People who talked about, or studied, things like futures and options upset him so much that he would practically froth at the mouth. Meanwhile, his office neighbored another university department: the Insurance Department. This same professor thought insurance was a respectable subject, greatly worthy of academic study. What he did not understand--because he refused to look--was that most insurance contracts can be analyzed and understood in terms of option pricing theory. He died never knowing that "insurance" and "options" were essentially the same thing appearing in two different disguises, and thoroughly convinced that he loved one and hated the other. One must not be
[CTRL] [Fwd: [patrickcrusade] Law News Network -- Bush Affidavit Refuted]
-Caveat Lector- Marla Mazoch wrote: http://www.lawnewsnetwork.com/stories/A4538-1999Aug16.html Bush Affidavit Refuted Statement in whistle-blower case at issue Janet Elliott Texas Lawyer August 16, 1999 Gov. George W. Bush's sworn denial that he had no conversation with any Service Corporation International officials, agents or representatives concerning a state investigation into the funeral company giant is being tested by comments an SCI lawyer made to a Newsweek reporter. Johnnie B. Rogers, an Austin lawyer who represents SCI, told Michael Isikoff that he and SCI chief executive Robert Waltrip were at the governor's office April 15, 1998 to drop off a letter to the chairman of the Texas Funeral Services Commission demanding a halt to the investigation of embalming practices at SCI funeral homes. Isikoff, who helped break the Monica Lewinsky scandal, quotes Rogers recounting how he and Waltrip were in the office of Bush chief of staff Joe Allbaugh when Bush popped his head in. Rogers told Newsweek that Bush saw Waltrip, a longtime family friend, and said: "Hey Bobby, are those people still messing with you?" When Waltrip said they were, Rogers recalled that the governor turned to him and said, "Hey, Johnnie B. Are you taking care of him?" "I'm doing my best, governor," Rogers said he replied. If the conversation occurred, it appears at odds with a sworn affidavit Bush gave July 20 as part of his effort to avoid giving a deposition in a whistle-blower case against the funeral commission, Waltrip and SCI filed by Eliza May, the former executive director of the funeral commission. May alleges that the governor had her fired in February because of her agency's investigation into SCI. The governor's office has denied any involvement in May's firing. Austin's Derek Howard, who represents May, says the conversation attributed to Bush appears to "directly contradict" the governor's sworn affidavit that he had no conversation with any SCI representatives "concerning any dispute arising from this investigation." "I have no personal knowledge of relevant facts of the investigation nor do I have any personal knowledge of relevant facts concerning any dispute arising from this investigation," Bush said in the affidavit. "He obviously has some personal knowledge of relevant facts because he has this conversation with Johnnie B.," says Howard. Rogers, a former Austin state senator described by Newsweek as "folksy," was warned not to talk to reporters. Now his comments could produce a heap of new legal maneuvering, including a sanctions motion. It also could impact Bush's ability to avoid a deposition. The motion to quash Bush's deposition filed by Assistant AG Dona Hamilton states that May has no evidence of personal involvement on the governor's part. It relies on the governor's affidavit that he had no knowledge of any fact relevant to May's suit. Bush press aide Linda Edwards says the conversation recounted by Rogers isn' t a discrepancy with Bush's affidavit. "As we've always said, Gov. Bush had a very brief off-the-cuff exchange with Mr. Waltrip as [Bush] was headed out the door," Edwards says. "He recalls it was not substantive, but does not recall the exact words exchanged." SCI spokesman Bill Miller says the conversation recounted by Rogers was a "jocular exchange" typical of Bush's conversational style. He says it does not reflect any knowledge by Bush of relevant facts. Bush has received $35,000 in campaign contributions since 1996 from SCI's political action committee. An Aug. 30 hearing is set in Travis County District Court to determine whether Bush should be deposed. CASINO GAMBLING TARGETED Some may find irony in Texas using federal funds to help finance Attorney General John Cornyn's probe of the Tigua Indian's Speaking Rock casino. Cornyn Aug. 11 announced that his office had received a $1.5 million grant from the governor's office to prosecute illegal gambling in Texas over the next three years. Eighty percent of the money comes from federal funds and 20 percent from state funds, according to Bush's office. Cornyn recently revived a dormant investigation into the casino near El Paso. The Tiguas have been operating their casino for several years without an agreement with Texas. The federal Indian Gaming Regulatory Act requires tribes to negotiate gaming compacts with states. The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the Federal Restoration Act giving the Tiguas federal recognition prohibits the tribe's operation of any gambling activity that is not permitted by Texas law. Cornyn says he'll form an Illegal Gambling Task Force to prosecute all illegal gambling, including Internet gambling, eight liner slot machines and casinos. Linda Eads, deputy AG for litigation, and Shane Phelps, deputy AG for criminal justice, will head the task force. BORDER BLURRED There are many barriers to
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Pinay Cercle- Bilderbergers Evil Sister?]
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Antoine Pinay was extremely influential in Europe and the United States, where he had forged links with President Nixon. Pinay attended the Bilderberg inaugural meeting in Oosterbeek, Holland during May 1952. By 1969, Pinay together with Jean Violet, a Lawyer working for the French Intelligence Service SDECE, and Archduke Otto von Habsburg, heir to the Austrian throne, formed Le Cercle, and secretly began recruiting men of influence as members. snip Hmmm...Otto von Hapsburg again. Does anyone have a list of *all* of Otto's connections? The man seems to be the NWO conspiracy all in one person! Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Proper Y2K tests to do on your machine
-Caveat Lector- At 08:13 AM 08/17/1999 -0400, YnrChyldzWyld wrote: I would suggest people actually LEARN something about computers before disseminating such garbage How a date DISPLAYS has absolutely NOTHING to do with how it is defined to the operating system... An OS can be Y2K compliant, and still display a 2-digit date...if it is compliant, it will correctly interpret 01/01/00 as January 1, 2000 If it is NOT compliant, setting it to display a 4-digit date won't matter, as it will rollover to January 1, 1900 (or whatever earliest year the BIOS recognizes, usually sometime in the early 1980s) Microsoft has posted on it's site that the "4 digit date" info being posted on mailing lists is a _hoax. Just changing the display date in the Control Panel doesn't do anything except "look cosmetic" and make the gullible "feel better". The only way to *properly* determine if you PC is truly Y2K compliant is to perform a series of tests at the DOS and BIOS level. Boot your PC with a start-up disk directly to DOS, type "Date" and "Time". Set both to a minute before midnight on Dec 31, 1999. Let your machine sit for at least a couple of minutes beyond the rollover. Type "Time" and "Date" again. See what it displays. Re-boot the machine, again using the start-up disk directly to DOS. Re-type "Time" and "Date". Observe what it displays. If it reverts to "1980", your machine has problems. Next, do this test again, except turn OFF your machine. Leave it off for awhile and then turn it back on and re-enter DOS. See what the date and time displays. If it reflects the date and time properly to the year 2000, your machine is Y2K compliant at the _DOS_ level. Next, re-boot the machine and intercept it before it's gets to DOS. You want to enter the BIOS. Once in the BIOS setup, change the time and date to just a couple of minutes before midnight on Dec 31, 1999. WATCH the time and date for the rollover. If you see the rollover perform successfully to 2000, leave the new time and date in place, turn your machine OFF, leave it off for a few minutes and then turn it back on and re-enter BIOS. If, on re-entering BIOS, you see the new time and date are still there (ie, Jan. 01, 12:18am, 2000) THEN and ONLY THEN can you claim your machine is truly Y2K compliant at _both_ the DOS and BIOS level. If it doesn't rollover, your machine definately has a problem and NO amount of cosmetic trickery with the clock display of 4-digit dates in the Control Panel will fix it. There's no halfway measure to this people. Your machine is either compliant or it isn't. Flaming others won't fix it. DO the tests on your machine and see what happens. I suggest you leave Windows out of it and go directly to DOS. This doesn't mean drop to a DOS prompt. Don't even load Windows, go directly to DOS and BIOS level. Good luck on your mission. Remember, Failure is NOT an option. http://www.fwpd.net/dona/tesla/teslacoil.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Banker$ and Generals: Economic Interests Behind the Yu...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/17/99 7:21:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our name was taken in vain the subject article by Al Hidell which appeared in _Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader_ Issue 21, Fall 1999 (page 28), PO Box 1041, Providence, RI, 02901 [$20.00/year]: "The A-albionic conspiracy research group takes the LaRouche viewpoint a step further. In their view, Britain is indeed a major force working for world domination. However, they believe that there is another force battling Her Majesty behind-the-scenes: the Vatican. In the case of the Balkan conflict, it is interesting to note that the British are on the side of war, while the Vatican has repeatedly condemned the violence." Lloyd Responds:"Al Hidell" has it totally wrong on this one! Lloyd, I believe my assertions are essentially correct, rather than "totally wrong." In the above excerpt you quote, I make three assertions: 1. The current A-Albionic hypothesis is that Britain and the Vatican are engaged in a behind-the-scenes struggle for world domination. This is true. 2. Britain is on the side of the war against Yugoslavia; That is, she actively supported the recent NATO military action. This is true. 3. The Vatican has repeatedly condemned the violence. My statement is true as far as it goes, but it was wrong for me to generalize from this statement that the Vatican opposed the war. Your point that the war fit in with the Vatican's desire to dominate the Eastern Orthodox Church is valid, as is your suggestion that the war fit in with the Vatican's proposed alliance with Islam. Also, I feel that my question "The US: Dominated or Dominant?" is a fundamental way (though certainly not the only way) to compare and contrast at least some of the competing conspiracy theories that are out there. However, I do agree with you that asking "which social/economic power organs are dominant in determining [American] policies at this time?" is certainly a more sophisticated and rewarding line of inquiry. -al DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ohhh Scary...A socialist for Senate!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 11:03 PM Subject: Ohhh Scary...A socialist for Senate! Weekdays With Bernie Vermont Waits for Sanders to Decide About Senate Campaign By Tim Curran Ha Ha. Bernie "the socialist" gets the spin again. As one of Bernie's constitutents (and a political independent) I know from first hand that Bernie's "radical" spin is just that - spin and hot air. Although I am not a socialist - neither is Bernie. Bernie long ago sold out principles for power. Bernie toes the Liberal Democrat line. (See impeachment and Kosovo). Bernie is a sellout for Wash. D.C. power. The fact is if Sanders beat Jeffords for Senate, except for the fact that the Dems would have one more Senate vote, you would see little difference in the quality of their votes. flw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] New York, New York]
-Caveat Lector- jabr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Bill: It has been awhile since I was last on CTRL and I just re-subscribed yesterday. HEY!! Welcome back, Judith!! We've missed ya... :^D Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] X-Files version of history is backed by CIA report
-Caveat Lector- ISSUE 1544 Tuesday 17 August 1999 X-Files version of history is backed by CIA report By Michael Smith THE CIA has released a secret history of its investigations into UFO sightings, revealing that there was more truth in the popular television series The X-Files than is often believed. The highly critical report describes often bitter debates between real-life X-Files investigators who believed that "the truth is out there" and their sceptical bosses. It records tales of bumbling undercover agents whose activities fuelled a widespread belief that the government was covering up what the agency described as "extra-terrestrial visitations by intelligent beings". The problem was eventually passed to the agency's physics and electronics division where in true X-Files style just one analyst investigated UFO phenomena. But the Fifties equivalent of Fox Mulder was constantly undermined by his boss, described by the CIA history as "a non-believer in UFOs", who tried but failed to declare the project "inactive". While the CIA investigations eventually concluded that all the sightings could be explained, the report concludes that "misguided" attempts to keep them secret led to widespread belief of a government cover-up. The report, written by Gerald K Haines, the official CIA historian, was commissioned by the then CIA director James Woolsey in 1993 in the wake of renewed claims of a CIA-led cover-up. It calls for the first time on documents that the agency hid from UFO enthusiasts who obtained thousands of more mundane files under the Freedom of Information Act. The report, completed in 1997, has been released at the request of the British academic journal Intelligence and National Security and is published in its summer issue this month. US intelligence began investigating UFO sightings in 1947 when a pilot claimed to have seen nine discs travelling at more than 1,000 mph in Washington state. The claim was backed up by additional sightings including reports from military and civilian pilots and air traffic controllers. The first investigation, Operation Saucer, was carried out by US air intelligence which initially feared that the objects might be Soviet bombers. But some officers became convinced that UFOs existed and in a top-secret report concluded many of the sightings were "interplanetary". Air force chiefs had the report rewritten to conclude that "although visits from outer space are deemed possible, they are believed to be very unlikely". The CIA initially dismissed the investigations as "midsummer madness". But an agency committee decided they could be used by Moscow either to create mass hysteria or to overload the air warning system, making it unable to distinguish between UFOs and Soviet bombers. In 1955, claims by two elderly sisters to have had contact with UFOs attracted widespread publicity. A CIA agent describing himself as an air force officer spoke to them and reported that he appeared to have stumbled upon a scene from Arsenic and Old Lace. Analysis of a "code" which the women believed aliens were using to make contact with them while they listened to their favourite radio programme was morse code from a US radio station. But when UFO enthusiasts heard of the "air force" officer's visit they became immediately suspicious that he was a member of the CIA trying to cover up the affair. One enthusiast pursued the CIA conspiracy theory and was visited by another CIA officer, who claimed to be in the air force and even wore an air force uniform. The ruse failed, making the conspiracy theorists even more suspicious. The refusal to release 57 documents on the investigation in the Seventies, to protect sources, also fuelled the cover-up theory, Haines concluded. 28 January 1999: [Connected] What the little green men say about scientists 8 July 1998: Scientists deride UFOs report 30 June 1998: Scientists call for inquiry on UFOs 24 November 1997: Clinton looked for evidence of UFOs © Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 1999. Terms Conditions of reading. Commercial information. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Pinay Cercle- Bilderbergers Evil Sister?]
-Caveat Lector- That's because Otto is currently King of the World. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYT: An Oddity in Space Baffles Experts
-Caveat Lector- from The New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/081799sci-mystery-star.html August 17, 1999 An Oddity in Space Baffles Experts By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD very night at their telescopes, astronomers invite the universe to a battle of wits. Surprise us, they say, with some teasing wink of light, some few cryptic clues to something unfamiliar and, better yet, an implied challenge to a cherished theory. In most cases, astronomers boast, we will have it figured out by dawn. Now astronomers have an unyielding mystery on their hands, something they have observed and pondered for three years, a point of light deep in the northern sky that appears to be like nothing seen before. This may turn out to be only a curiosity, an odd variation of a familiar phenomenon, or it may be the first evidence of some unsuspected object with reverberating theoretical implications. Detecting planets around other stars is the most celebrated recent discovery to challenge scientists, forcing them to rethink their theories about the formation and dynamics of planetary systems and take more seriously the possibility of life existing elsewhere in the universe. The mystery object has so far confounded astronomers because they cannot decipher the language of its light. Usually, by breaking down the spectrum of light into its component elements and charting the spikes and dips on a graph, astronomers can identify and describe an object within minutes. In this case, however, astronomers are finding nothing familiar about the light spectrum, a couple of Everests representing emissions from the object surrounded by lower peaks and broad valleys of heavy elements that blot out the true contours of the object's nature. They are beginning to sympathize with archeologists who sought to read Egyptian hieroglyphics without the Rosetta Stone. "I've never seen a spectrum anything like this, and I take spectra for a living," said Dr. S. George Djorgovski, an astronomer at the California Institute of Technology who is the leader of the sky survey that detected the mystery object. Whatever the astronomers are seeing, it is probably not a star, at least not any normal star. The light signature of stars is much simpler than this object's. Nor is it a distant galaxy, which would have much different light patterns. With little evidence and even less conviction, some astronomers speculate that the object is a quasar, one of the sources of tremendous energies at the farthest reaches of the universe where the enormous gravitational power of black holes presumably gobbles up surrounding matter. If it is a quasar, it must be a rare kind beyond current understanding. "It doesn't look like a quasar to my eye, but I may be wrong," said Dr. Wallace Sargent, a Caltech astronomer and quasar specialist, who is also director of Palomar Observatory in Southern California, where the discovery was made. So if it is not a normal star, galaxy or strange quasar, astronomers say, the most intriguing possibility is that the mystery object is announcing the existence of an entirely new cosmic phenomenon. "But we must do everything to rule out the known before we postulate that we have discovered something really and truly new," Djorgovski said. Mystification is likely to be a more common experience in astronomy as more powerful telescopes and instruments with improved sensitivity are used for systematic probes deeper into the universe and over broader stretches of sky. Several comprehensive sky surveys under way or just beginning are expected to discover many rare or even previously unknown types of astronomical objects and forces. Exploring the entire northern sky in different color filters, for example, the Digital Palomar Sky Survey, now nearing completion, has collected data on more than 50 million galaxies and about 2 billion stars. The census has identified more than 70 quasars at such great distances that they are being seen at a time when the universe was less than 10 percent of its present age. One surprising discovery was a starlike light several hundred times brighter than the galaxy with which it was associated. Astronomers are not sure, but they suspect they were seeing the aftereffects of a gamma-ray burst, the most powerful events in the universe today. First detected in the 1960s, gamma-ray bursts are examples of an astronomical mystery that is only now being solved. For the survey, astronomers devised computer programs to sift through processed photographs for starlike objects, then distinguish the stars from galaxies and isolate rare points of light that are not immediately recognizable. This was how the new mystery object showed up. Djorgovski and his team -- Dr. Stephen Odewahn, Dr. Robert Brunner and Roy Gal, a graduate student -- examined the object's light spectrum. Some of the lines of emissions, especially the two Everest spikes, looked too sharp to be from a quasar. They combed the star
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York
-Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. Most of us know absolutely nothing about the business until a loved one dies, then we are dragged into a number of unpleasant considerations in order "to make arrangements" for the recently departed. Of course, the business is interacting with families and individuals at a time of crisis, and the possibilities for abuse are certainly there. I've always wondered just how credible many of these organizations really are. Is Uncle Joseph really buried in the right grave? Were his remains treated respectfully? The business, of course, is licensed and regulated...but one wonders. H "Don't fear the Reaper..." Blue Oyster Cult On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Ric Carter wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was told in no uncertain terms by one of my co-workers to leave it alone. Why? Because another business on the street had paid the Mob protection for that parking space! The Mafia controlled all of the trash collection, too. My sister the artist moved from Southern California [where she sculpted crap for plaster models sold in craft shops] to Southern Nevada [where she painted signs and murals for casinos] to New York [where she's now a security supervisor for the subways, when she's not painting/sculpting representations of subway passengers/lurkers.] She found a nice cheap apartment above a Mob funeral parlor near Police HQ. I drove out there a couple years ago. It's a nice safe place to park, in front of a Mob mortuary. We stuck an ATTENDING FUNERAL sign in the windshield and left the Jeep there for days, nobody bothers it, nobody. Anyway, the Mob still controls trash collection, not just in big East Coast cities, but everywhere. I've got a cousin-in-law running a big recycling center near L.A., and he says they still run all the haulage, all the trucks and drivers. Hey, this is a Conspiracy list, how come nobody discusses the mundane conspiracies, the conspiracies that suck us dry on the little things, like trash? Bilderbergers, Illuminati, these are all rather abstract, not like the very concrete conspiracies running blue-collar America. Garbage/trucking/mortuary conspiracies are real, immediate, inarguable. How many of the contributors here are paid agents of La Cosa Nostra, distracting us from reality? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York
-Caveat Lector- Yeah, I hear you on this. I hadn't meant to wax and wane so much about Manhattan -- but truth is, according to MOB syndicate history books, NYC is controlled by 26 Mafia families. This includes a pop of about 13 million (or more now) living stacked into 5 burroughs (Manhattan, Staten Isl, Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx). You see Italian delis and restaurants throughout the city -- must be a couple of thousand pizza parlors, probably MOB controlled. But the city runs on the deals of Catholic-Mobsters. So may much of the east coast. Even CT, haven for billionaires is looking seedy these days and syndicate spotters are guarding neighborhoods everywhere. Businesses don't survive without em. Later -- Judith Ric Carter wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was told in no uncertain terms by one of my co-workers to leave it alone. Why? Because another business on the street had paid the Mob protection for that parking space! The Mafia controlled all of the trash collection, too. My sister the artist moved from Southern California [where she sculpted crap for plaster models sold in craft shops] to Southern Nevada [where she painted signs and murals for casinos] to New York [where she's now a security supervisor for the subways, when she's not painting/sculpting representations of subway passengers/lurkers.] She found a nice cheap apartment above a Mob funeral parlor near Police HQ. I drove out there a couple years ago. It's a nice safe place to park, in front of a Mob mortuary. We stuck an ATTENDING FUNERAL sign in the windshield and left the Jeep there for days, nobody bothers it, nobody. Anyway, the Mob still controls trash collection, not just in big East Coast cities, but everywhere. I've got a cousin-in-law running a big recycling center near L.A., and he says they still run all the haulage, all the trucks and drivers. Hey, this is a Conspiracy list, how come nobody discusses the mundane conspiracies, the conspiracies that suck us dry on the little things, like trash? Bilderbergers, Illuminati, these are all rather abstract, not like the very concrete conspiracies running blue-collar America. Garbage/trucking/mortuary conspiracies are real, immediate, inarguable. How many of the contributors here are paid agents of La Cosa Nostra, distracting us from reality? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] American, As Language
-Caveat Lector-
The
Old
Cause
by
Joseph R.
Stromberg
August 17, 1999
POLITICS AND
THE AMERICAN LANGUAGE
If the truth is the "first casualty of war," then the honest use
of language must be "collateral damage." George Orwell rather
famously dealt with some of the details in his essay, "Politics
and the English Language" (1945). My topic is different insofar
as I deal with the American language.
That there is an "American language" is subject to argument, I
suppose, but I note that my copy of Larry McMurty's world-famous
Weg in die Wildnis (Lonesome Dove) states that it is translated
"aus dem Amerikanischen" "from the American." The incomparable
H. L. Mencken certainly thought there was an American language,
or he wouldn't have written The American Language and its two
full-scale supplements.
Another bit of evidence: I was living in West London in the
exciting months when the Soviet bloc's problems with rational
economic calculation and political legitimacy were leading to a
spectacular collapse. (Did anyone wake up Juergen Habermas, the
left-liberal authority on "legitimation crises"?) I kept seeing
editorials in the British press to the effect that we had better
get in there and teach these foreigners decent English before the
Americans show up! Clearly, they thought there was an American
language.
Now the American language, such as it is, has taken a few blows
on the road to Empire ("greatness thrust upon" us, as one
flag-waving historian memorably put it). Writing of
English-English, Orwell made up an example of conscious political
distortion of meaning. Thus: "While freely conceding that the
Soviet regime exhibits certain features which the humanitarian
may be inclined to deplore, we must, I think, agree that a
certain curtailment of the right to political opposition is an
unavoidable concomitant of transitional periods, and that the
rigors which the Russian people have been called upon to undergo
have been amply justified in the sphere of concrete achievement."
In plain English, Orwell says, this would read, "I believe in
killing off your opponents when you can get good results by doing
so."
This reminds me quite a lot of Mr Jamie O'Shea, the Goebbels or
Vishinsky of the recent NATO "lie-ins" or press briefings during
the non-war/non-peace in or over Yugoslavia. Hearing him reminded
me of the Cockney scholar interviewed in Robert McNeill's
television series, The Story of English. He said that Cockneys
love to use grand-sounding words, as in "'E does all that wif
IMPUNITY." Unfortunately, the ever-alert media informed us that
Mr O'Shea speaks South London English, which ruined that theory;
and just as well, as Americans are rather fond of Cockneys after
all those sentimental movies. ("The miss-aisle rydes foll minely
on Belgryde."1)
Of course Orwell was parodying Stalinist writing, an art form
which doesn't so much die as shift its shape over time, like that
foreigner on Deep Space 9. Its analogues are everywhere. In
Memoirs of a Revolutionist (1958), Dwight MacDonald highlighted
the phenomenon with scary examples from The Nation and the New
Republic (which was born evil and seldom gets above its raisin').
MacDonald characterized these journals' war-time, Popular Front,
Stalinoid style as "totalitarian liberalism." A good showpiece is
the New Republic editorial (May 7, 1945) which explained that
forced labor imposed, by say, the Soviet state is not "slavery,"
since real slavery could only exist in the wicked private sector.
Conservative historian John Lukacs remarked years ago on the
bureaucratization of American English, which he attributed to
Central European influences and the rise of Pentagonese. (The
Capitol Steps' song, "Maxwell's Silver Grammar," makes the
point.) The last two wars for the American Empire, the Gulf War
and the late business over Kosovo ("eight miles high, and when
you drop bombs, you'll find that it's safer than Nam"), have
given us all sorts of clever new expressions. Among these are
such gems as "collateral damage," "human shields," "humanitarian
disaster," "mistakes," "willing executioners,"and "sanctions."
This kind of "discourse" (as the trendies like to say) leans on
passive and impersonal constructions in which things "are done,"
but apparently not by actual human beings who might bear
responsibility. Things just kinda "happen" to people at the hands
of somebody-or-other.
I suggest saving the time of the general public, parliaments,
trade unions, special interests, oppressed minorities, and
world-saving bomber pilots by means of an American Imperial/NATO
Cliche and Rationale Maker (it slices, it dices, it never tells
the truth). In its simplest form the CRM consists of three
columns. The first consists of noun phrases like "Secretary
Albright and Sandy Berger," "Starkravian Freedom Fighters," "Free
world leaders," "Neo-fascist particularists," "UNSCUM," and so
[CTRL] The Burying Business (was: Re: [Re: [CTRL] New York, New York])
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. http://www.philly.com/specials/99/burying/html/bury02.asp The Burying Business: Why funeral costs stay so high Examining rituals and reforms of the industry that cares for our dead. First of five parts. By Dianna Marder INQUIRER STAFF WRITER In The American Way of Death, Jessica Mitford told of grieving families bullied into paying inflated prices for unnecessary embalmings and for waterproof caskets padded with Sealy Posturepedic mattresses, lined with satin pillows for an eternal slumber. That was fully 36 years ago, and despite government efforts to reform the funeral business many of the old problems remain and new ones have emerged. So loud was the public cry for reform after publication of Mitford's scathing indictment of the industry that the Federal Trade Commission launched its first effort at regulation. And so resistant was the industry that the debate over regulation lasted nearly two decades. Today, 15 years after passage of the first federal Funeral Rule, planning a funeral can be just as difficult, just as costly, just as confusing as ever. Funeral directors now charge a fee of about $1,000 -- over and above other specific costs -- just to take your business. Federal regulations require funeral directors to give families an itemized price list. But some don't. When they're caught, they're fined. But the industry struck a deal with the government so the names of violators don't become public. The federal regulations were never meant to contain prices. The average cost of a funeral rose 26 percent in the last five years -- more than 10 times the rate of inflation. At $4,000 to $8,000 (the average funeral now costs $5,500), the funeral is still among a family's most expensive purchases. The reforms did not cover cemeteries. Many cemeteries now charge as much or more to dig a grave as to buy the plot. The U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging has ordered an investigation of the death-care industry, specifically looking at allegations of deceptive and high-pressure sales tactics by industry providers. Laurie Ekstrand, an official with the General Accounting Office, which is conducting the congressional investigation, said her office was stunned by the absence of consumer protection and the complexity of funeral planning. "It was a real eye-opener," Ekstrand said. "We had no idea about all this." Hank Leszczynski battled his adrenal cancer for three years, enduring chemotherapy, radiation and experimental drugs. In all that time, he could not bear to believe he would die. How could his two small sons be left with no memory of his face, his touch, or the sound of his voice at storytime? And in the final days of his life in 1995, when hope of a cure was gone and the focus was on making him comfortable, Hank's mind was consumed with weightier thoughts than the funeral. In some hospice cases, families are able to plan funerals together. But that was not the situation for Hank and his wife of seven years, Karen. When Hank died on April 5, 1995, at age 42, he left Karen with two sons, ages 2 and 3, a small insurance policy, and no funeral instructions. Karen didn't even know which funeral home to call. There is no shortage of funeral homes; this region has 600. Most people use one that buried other relatives or happens to be close by. Karen called the funeral home nearest her house in Andalusia, Bucks County: Fluehr Funeral Home. Richard J. Fluehr Sr., owner of the family firm, outlined her options. (He declined to be interviewed for this article.) "He was nice," Karen said. "Not at all pushy." Still, she was overwhelmed by the number of decisions that had to be made -- and money was a concern. She was shown a price list for things she didn't know whether she needed or wanted: embalming, limousines, flowers, prayer cards, burial clothing and something called an "outer burial container." What Karen remembers most from those difficult days are the words of a hospice social worker. "She told me right away: 'Don't let the price of the coffin measure how much you loved your husband.' " "And that was good advice," Karen said, "because I didn't know what to expect." Generations before ours had more first-hand experience with death. Children died in infancy more frequently, and more siblings were lost to disease. People often died in their beds and were laid out in the parlor. There was a procession through town to the cemetery. Bells tolled -- once for a man, twice for a woman. A funeral wreath on the door told everyone a death had occurred. The family wore mourning clothes, and when you saw someone dressed in black, it was appropriate to stop, ask who had died, and offer condolences. But as the viewing moved from the family parlor to the funeral parlor and medicine extended life, the lessons of the past became lost.
[CTRL] [MC] Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects
-Caveat Lector-
Subj:[MC] Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects
Date: 99-08-17 17:07:06 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Thomas)
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-- The following assertions are undocumented but the article offers some
important speculations we should follow up on. --
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:09:45 +
From: "NewsHawk Inc." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PROOF!--Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects
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8.17.99
PROOF!--Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects--
According to Eric Harris's Air Force "Controller" AND Harris Himself
© 1999 John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.
(The rights of UNALTERED reproduction/distribution hereby waived.)
The Air Force--THAT is, those divisions of what USED to be the U.S. Air
Force which are now under control of New World Order global governance
masters, seems to have trouble keeping itself out of NewsHawk's press
releases lately.
We just issued a heads-up to our readers yesterday concerning the fact
that KC-135s and other aircraft KNOWN to belong (at LEAST on paper!) to
OUR U.S. Air Force are currently engaged in an extremely widespread
campaign of continual, all-out, virtually round-the-clock bombardment of
the people of North America (not ONLY U.S. residents) with chemical and
biological materials known to be injurious to human health--and almost
certainly to the health of most indigenous life forms on our planet
(cloned reptoid-zomboid-android-Nazoid test-tube vermin such as those
overrunning our entire governmental structure are obviously not affected
by this most unwelcome crud being showered down on us daily.)
We have also made note of the extremely interesting fact that
mind-controlled "Manchurian Candidate" perpetrators of at LEAST four of
the recent mass shooting nightmares in our country had/have SIGNIFICANT
and HARD ties to the Air Force.
In just the past two days, these articles of ours have stimulated
additional responses from others with knowledge and/or direct experience
which further confirms the high degree of involvement on the part of
covert Air Force intelligence operatives at specific Air Force bases in
the "engineering", programming, indoctrination and training of those
unfortunate subjects; picked to become mind-controlled mass killers.
A wide variety of tactics and techniques are used in these utterly
abusive and demonic programs, which are almost completely derived from
the infamous MK-Ultra project, the Montauk Project and related
intelligence agency mind-control projects. The "genealogy" of all these
evil, grotesque activities leads DIRECTLY back to the death and torture
slave camps of the Third Reich by way of the Nazi-infested CIA, NSA, DIA
and other U.S. intelligence groups. This absolute, unqualified FACT.
Check the records. These agencies funneled HORDES of high-level Nazi
Party members, intelligence and military officers, "scientists" (yea
right!) and vast quantities of Nazi technology information databases
into the most fundamental levels of OUR United States government: after,
DURING and even BEFORE WW2!
Two of these recent communications to NewsHawk in fact pinpoint a
particular Air Force base which has ALREADY been heavily "outed" by us
in our articles ("The Rocky Mountain Horror Show" and "Putting the
Columbine Puzzle Together") on the Columbine High School massacre on
April 20 . This corroborates information from other widely divergent
sources regarding bizarre covert activities at this location.
The location we refer to is PLATTSBURGH AIR FORCE BASE in northeastern
New York State, roughly 80 miles south of the Canadian border. Beneath
the Plattsburgh base is a VAST, 18-level deep subterranean facility.
Eric Harris, whose father has been linked to covert AF intelligence
projects going back nearly 20 years, lived with his family at
Plattsburgh AFB for over 4 years right before moving to Littleton.
We have previously received confirmation on the Plattsburgh base as
(being) a location for severe, horrendous, outrageous and scientifically
very advanced mind/consciousness-manipulation technologies and projects
from a wide variety of sources: from other victims and from those who
were in the employ of project operators.
Plattsburgh AFB was by some reports linked in the 1960s the horrendous
known Nazi-lover Ewen Cameron, president of the American Psychiatric
Association, The Canadian Psychiatric Association AND the World
Psychiatric Association, and Cameron's massive abuses in the
CIA-contracted MK-Ultra (drug and neuro-electrically-based) mind-control
project just over the border in Montreal. Firsthand accounts indicate
that this legacy continued at Plattsburgh through the 1970s and beyond
to present times with electromagnetic/radio-frequency and drug-based
mind control activities tied to some of the experimentation at Montauk.
As noted in earlier reports this Air force installation SUPPOSEDLY
"officially" closed
[CTRL] Blood of the Brits
-Caveat Lector- Via news.excite.com Canada, United States ban British as blood donorsUpdated 5:07 PM ET August 17, 1999By Lisa Richwine ROCKVILLE, Md. (Reuters) - Blood banks in the United States and Canada were ordered Tuesday to stop collecting donations from people who lived in or frequently visited Britain during the mad cow disease outbreak. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it was taking the step to prevent donors who ate tainted British beef from possibly passing along the human version of mad cow, a fatal degenerative brain disorder, through blood transfusions. Canada's health department Tuesday ordered Canadian Blood Services, which collects and delivers blood everywhere in Canada except Quebec, to implement a similar ban on Sept. 30. Hema-Quebec, Canada's other blood agency, plans to bar blood from people who spent only a month in Britain. The Quebec agency said it can afford a more stringent standard because fewer of its donors visit Britain. The FDA, the agency charged with ensuring blood safety, called the move "a precautionary measure." No case of mad cow disease or its human equivalent has ever been documented in the United States, and scientists do not even know if the disease can be transmitted through blood. "No evidence exists that the disease has been transmitted by blood transfusion, but current studies cannot exclude this possibility," the FDA said. Dr. Harvey Schipper, a Canadian Blood Services board member, said at a news conference Tuesday, "We don't feel we can wait until all the evidence is in and make a very clear simple statement, because by then who knows what might have happened." U.S. blood banks said they would adopt the policy but were worried about the impact on the nation's blood supply, which is projected to fall short of demand in 2000 unless recent trends change. The FDA ordered U.S. blood banks to turn away potential donors who spent six months or more in Great Britain between 1980 and 1996. About 8 million people donate blood in the United States each year. The new limits are expected to decrease blood donations by 2.2 percent, or close to 300,000 donations, blood bank officials said. "The donors we are losing from this recommendation will be hard to replace," said Jim MacPherson, executive director of America's Blood Centers, which collects about half the blood in the United States. Officials in Canada said it will lose 3 percent, or at least 20,000 bags, of its donated blood a year. MacPherson said his group's blood centers will adopt the new policy immediately, but he called for a federal campaign to recruit new volunteers to replace the lost donors. The American Red Cross, which collects the other half of the nation's blood, said it will implement the policy as soon as possible. But Dr. Richard Davey, chief medical officer, said the Red Cross also was concerned the new policy, while protecting patients from a theoretical risk, could expose them to a real risk from a blood shortage. "We're working hard to recruit new blood donors ... and this ban will make our job harder," Davey said. "We are concerned of course about safety, but our view is not having enough blood is also unsafe." Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, peaked in Britain in 1992, and officials there have taken steps to make the blood supply safer. The disease's human equivalent is called new variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (nvCJD). Scientists are still studying whether nvCJD can be passed through blood. The Red Cross said it would urge the FDA to review new research to determine whether it could lift the donation ban in the future. In June an outside panel of experts was divided on whether the FDA should restrict donations without more convincing data of the risk. But a majority voted in favor of limiting at least some recent visitors to Britain. The FDA order applies to donors who visited England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands. The FDA also ordered blood banks to reject donors who received bovine insulin or other injectable products made from British cattle and that are not licensed for sale in the United States. British beef returned to European markets this month, ending an export ban imposed in March 1996. Wonder what BillJeff Tony would say about tourism right about now?!? Or could there be any 'bad blood' 'tween them two? AER AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished.
[CTRL] Prison population (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message --- Prison And Jail Population Hits Record High Updated 4:48 PM ET August 15, 1999 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. adult prisons and jails held a record 1.82 million inmates last year, meaning one out of every 149 residents was behind bars, the Justice Department reported Sunday. The department's Bureau of Justice Statistics said in its semiannual report that the prison and jail population at Dec. 31, 1998, rose 4.6 percent, or 80,400 inmates, from 1.74 million inmates in 1997. "The population has been growing steadily," said Allen Beck of the statistics bureau. "I don't think there's been a decline in more than 25 years," Beck said, referring to 1972 when there was a slight decline in the nation's prison population. Beck also said there is a real decline in serious crime nationally. Jails are different from prisons because they are locally operated and typically hold persons awaiting trial and those with sentences of one year or less. In 1997, for which the most recent ethnic breakdown is available, the federal and state prison population was 49 percent black, 48 percent white, 2 percent American Indian or Alaska Native and 1 percent Asian or Pacific Islander. The female prison population grew by 6.5 percent over the previous year, compared with the 4.7 percent increase in the number of men behind bars. There were 14 times more men than women in prison in 1998. The report said state prisons were operating at a 13 to 22 percent over-capacity, while federal prisons were 27 percent over capacity. Related Stories Prison And Jail Population Hits Record High (Aug 16 12:02 am ET) -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Hate crimes not big problem in race relations, ...]
-Caveat Lector- At the risk of sounding squishy and unreal, bent upon the paranormal -- perhaps, just perhaps, hate crimes are none of the normal things. Supposing that a mind control force, synthetic telepathy and all, is staging the hate crimes? Suppose that one person assaulting the other is really one person's silent force interpreting the other person's force as intimidation? What I mean to suggest, wholly as a theory, that there is a third-party in this thing. Which may be as of yet undefined. And which may be exacting change from one person to the next. Without control of this third force, or acknowledgement of it, on the surface, things appear to be happening as a hate crimes. Although this example doesn't exactly fit my whole concept, imagine that one person is being mind controlled by a govt or outside entity of some sort. And that person perceives non-lethal weapons are being used on them by the neighbor. The victim, unable to prove the weaponry use, lashes out screaming at the neighbor. The victim is being used in psycho-ops mental torture assaults. The victim's behavior against whomever he perceives as an enemy has a third-party in it. And without that known the whole thing can be looked at simplistically as simply a hate crime. There is at least one, possibly two or three, layers of info I am believing more and more, exist in all these events. IF we could stop the mind control assaults on people, we truely might not have any crime. We might not have any hatred. We might not have misunderstandings as to who is doing what to whom. The real question may be far greater to answer here -- that is who is doing the mind control stuff -- and what are their ultimate goals with humanity or societies -- what are their needs? I am buying into the notion more and more that we really do have an outside, unusual entity or force, "handling" all of humanity. Getting this thing in public is awfully important. And I also am believing more that what this is is better known these days than people want to say publicly, is my current take. The solving of these problems is probably not going to happen the usual ways, is my guess. And people are joining cults for protection more and more. It appears to be costing them more and more too. Judith Robert Tatman wrote: -Caveat Lector- "[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Bob wrote: This is, quite literally, blaming the victim. The kinds of crime the New Century people are talking about are generally motivated by greed, poverty, drug addiction, or some combination thereof. Hate crimes are motivated by fear and power...or perhaps fear of losing power. Being robbed at gunpoint may be frightening, but "it's only money," and you can always make more of that. The black man who was dragged to death in Texas because he was black can hardly get his life back. It doesn't surprise me that the Washington Times should publish this tripe; it fits their agenda very neatly. Bob Please; Bestowing victim status and justifying criminal acts in the same breath is not a good plan. When the criminal (your victim) is apprehended he simply yells "RACIST!" and here we are. Your opinion that I should not mind being robbed at gunpoint is not comforting. I worked for that money and I don't understand why you are allowed to decide whether the person stealing it should be punished. Perhaps you are volunteering to compensate the victims of crime? PNEALE1 First, I'm not justifying criminal acts. I HAVE been robbed at gunpoint; I was paraphrasing the robber. What he actually said was, "Look at it this way, I've got the money [all of $25.00] and you've got your life." I'm not saying that he shouldn't be punished...I resented losing that money, and I do believe that crime victims should be compensated, by the perpetrators or society or both. (The question of why such crimes are committed in the first place, and why certain groups, such as black males, are more likely to be crime victims, needs to be threshed out, perhaps in another thread.) YOU and the Washington Times are the ones who are equating property crime and hate crime. Property CAN be replaced...life cannot. Crimes motivated by hate must be classed as more serious than those motivated by greed. Granted, the effect may be the same, but the motive and *mens rea*, the state of mind, must be considered aggravating factors, making the hate crime far more serious than the mere property crime. The thrust of the Times article, it seems to me, is to justify hate crimes because the victims of the hate crimes have committed property crimes against the individuals who turn around and kill *them* because of their race or ethnicity or sexual orientation. And THAT argument cannot be defended. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to
[CTRL] Mercurialania
-Caveat Lector- Budding Campaign Ads urge pot users to fight arrests, promote legalization (By Dan Reed , Mercury News Staff Writer) SAN FRANCISCO -- Show a little self-respect, potheads, urges an advertising campaign begun Monday. It's time to come out of the closet and fight for your right to party. In a blitz of humorous ads designed to get marijuana users more politically active in the struggle to legalize pot, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, or NORML, has begun placing 30 billboards at bus shelters throughout San Francisco encouraging self-esteem for pot smokers and protest of their arrests. http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/norml17.htm Stanford tested drug on young inmates Study draws fire from state, medical ethicists (By Barbara Feder And Hallye Jordan, Mercury News Staff Writers) Imprisoned youths were subjected to psychiatric drug tests by a Stanford University researcher, spurring a probe by state officials who say the experiment wasn't properly approved by the California Youth Authority and may violate a law banning medical research on prisoners. http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/drug17.htm AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The False Memory Debate: Social Science or Social Backlash?
-Caveat Lector- Hi ! Below please find an article on the "FMS" debate. Sincerely, Neil Brick Excerpts from http://www.mentalhealth.com/mag1/p5h-mem3.html General Articles - The False Memory Debate: Social Science or Social Backlash? By Judith L. Herman and Mary R. Harvey The Harvard Mental Health Letter, Vol. 9, No. 10, April, 1993 ...a debate has arisen about the proper balance between victims' rights and due process of law. Under the high standard of evidence required by due process, the credibility of testimony based on delayed recall has been challenged. Academic researchers who study normal memory in volunteer subjects have been asked to generalize from laboratory findings to the clinical realm of psychological trauma. They have questioned the veracity of delayed memories of childhood sexual abuse and speculated on the possibility that these memories might be fictions inculcated by naive or manipulative psychotherapists. The notion that therapists can implant scenarios of horror in the minds of their patients is easily accepted because it appeals to common prejudices. It resonates with popular fears of manipulation by therapists and popular stereotypes of women as irrational, suggestible, or vengeful. It appeals to the common wish to deny or minimize the reality of sexual violence. In actuality, false claims of childhood sexual abuse are demonstrably rare, and false memories of childhood trauma are no doubt equally so. The evidence comes from epidemiological research, investigations of sexual abuse reports, and studies on the nature of traumatic memory. Several independent large-scale studies have documented the nature and prevalence of sexual assault in the United States. In these studies trained interviewers have obtained detailed information from large community samples of adult women, revealing that rape, incest, and childhood sexual abuse -- defined in accordance with prevailing law -- are common experiences. The best study, by the sociologist Diana Russell, indicates that one girl in three is sexually abused by age 18, one in four before age 14. Most abusers are known and trusted people in a position of authority over the child. Many are family members. This abuse is vastly underreported, because offenders usually succeed in silencing their victims. Probably less than 10% of child sexual abuse cases come to the attention of protective agencies or police. The consensus of researchers is that false complaints by children are rare, in the range of 2-8% of reported cases. False retractions of true complaints are far more common, especially when the victim is insufficiently protected after disclosure and therefore succumbs to intimidation by the perpetrator or other family members who feel that they must preserve secrecy. Since most child victims are silenced, disclosures of sexual abuse usually come from adults who report what they remember having undergone earlier. Their stories usually resemble those of child victims who speak out. We know of only one study directly addressing the question of whether these adult memories can be verified. Working with 53 female patients in group therapy, most of whom reported delayed recall after a period of partial or complete amnesia, Judith Herman and Emily Schatzow found that the majority (39, or 74%) were able to obtain independent corroborating evidence for the abuse. In some cases their stories were confirmed by other family members or other victims of the same perpetrator. Some found physical evidence such as pornographic photographs or diaries. In several cases the perpetrators unapologetically admitted their actions, and a few even tried to renew the sexual contact. Five women (9%) found evidence that was strongly suggestive but not conclusive. Six (11%) did not try to confirm their memories. Only three (6%) could not find any supporting evidence. Although more research is needed, these results suggest that delayed recall of sexual abuse is as verifiable as any other form of disclosure. Traumatic memory is a new field of investigation in which there are many unanswered questions. Clinical experience shows that these memories are formed in an altered state of consciousness induced by terror. The focus of attention is greatly narrowed, the surrounding context falls away, and certain details of imagery and sensation are deeply engraved. Such memories seem to be extremely accurate in some respects; for example, an adult may give a detailed description of the wallpaper in a room in which she was raped, even though she has not seen the room since the age of five. In other respects, such as time sequence, traumatic memories may be fragmentary and vague. But these flaws should not be taken to imply that the remembered events did not occur. As Elizabeth Loflus' own research has shown, even eyewitness accounts of known events often contain many inaccuracies. Partial or even complete amnesia for childhood trauma is well documented. In a follow-up
[CTRL] fw: ON AMMONIA AND THE POPULATION EXPLOSION
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Science-Week [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 2:20 PM Subject: ScienceWeek - Complimentary Copy Attached, with our compliments, is a copy of the current issue of ScienceWeek. Claire Haller Managing Editor SCIENCE-WEEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scienceweek.com -- Enclosure number 1 SCIENCE-WEEK A Weekly Email Digest of the News of Science A journal devoted to the improvement of communication between the scientific disciplines, and between scientists, science educators, and science policy makers. August 20, 1999 -- Vol. 3 Number 34 --- It is impossible to dissociate language from science or science from language, because every natural science always involves three things: the sequence of phenomena on which the science is based; the abstract concepts which call these phenomena to mind; and the words in which the concepts are expressed. To call forth a concept, a word is needed; to portray a phenomenon, a concept is needed. All three mirror one and same reality. Words are thus required to preserve and transmit ideas, so that it is clear that the advancement of a science and the improvement of its technical vocabulary go hand in hand. No matter how certain we are of the phenomena, no matter how adequately our concepts reflect them, we cannot help perpetuating wrong ideas unless we have a precise terminology in which to express ourselves. -- Antoine Laurent Lavoisier (1743-1794) --- Contents of This Issue: 1. On Ammonia and the Population Explosion 2. On the Natural Occurrences of Diamond 3. On Rotating Superfluid Helium-3 4. Polarized Starlight and Amino Acid Homochirality 5. Cell Biology: Protein Sorting and Golgi Compartments 6. On Human Embryonic Stem Cell Research In Focus: On Horizontal Gene Transfer --- 1. ON AMMONIA AND THE POPULATION EXPLOSION Ammonia [NH(sub3)], a nitrogen hydride, is a colorless gas with a rather interesting human history that ranges from its discovery by the remarkable chemist Joseph Priestley (1733-1804) to the first large-scale synthetic production and use of ammonia in synthetic fertilizers and explosives in the 20th century. The human requirement for synthetic fertilizers and explosives is an instance of irony in the application of science, since the major use of synthetic fertilizers is in the production of crops to feed people, and the major use of explosives is in the production of weapons to kill people. Nitrogen compounds are essential to fertilizers and explosives, but in the early 20th century the best large-scale source of such compounds was in the nitrate deposits of Chile [*Note #1], which at that time was quite remote from Europe. Another possible source of nitrogen compounds, only theoretical at the time, was Earth's atmosphere, since the atmosphere is mostly nitrogen gas and therefore constitutes an inexhaustible supply. If atmospheric nitrogen could be converted to ammonia, the ammonia could be used in the synthesis of various nitrogen compounds, including fertilizers and explosives. Fritz Haber (1868-1934) and Carl Bosch (1874-1940) are credited with the discovery of the Haber-Bosch process for the synthesis of ammonia from its elements, a discovery that literally altered the course of 20th century history. The basis of the process is the combining of nitrogen and hydrogen at high pressure over a catalyst. Haber, who first demonstrated the synthesis in 1909, received the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1918; Bosch, who engineered the application of the method to the large-scale production of ammonia, received the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1931 [*Note #2]. ... ... Vaclav Smil (University of Manitoba, CA) presents an historical essay on the Haber-Bosch discovery, the author making the following points: 1) The author poses the question: What is the most important invention of the 20th century? The usual answers include airplanes, nuclear energy, space flight, television, and computers, but none of these are critical to human well-being. The synthesis of ammonia from its elements, however, is critical: the world's population could not have grown from 1.6 billion in 1900 to the 6 billion of today without the Haber-Bosch process. 2) The synthesis of ammonia belongs to that special group of discoveries -- including Edison's light bulb and the Wright brothers' flight -- for which we can pinpoint the date of the decisive breakthrough. The archives of Badische Anilin-Und Soda- Fabrik (BASF) contain a letter from Haber, at that time Professor of Physical Chemistry at Technische Hochschule in Karlsruhe, to the company directors, a letter in which Haber recounts how the previous day the first demonstration to company scientists of the synthesis of ammonia from nitrogen and hydrogen was made:
Re: [CTRL] Ohhh Scary...A socialist for Senate!
-Caveat Lector- I know from first hand that Bernie's "radical" spin is just that - spin and hot air. Although I am not a socialist - neither is Bernie. ===Oh, I agree with you 100%, and I intended to put the word socialist in parentheses...would've made a big difference... Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Hate crimes not big problem in race relations, ...]]
-Caveat Lector- jabr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At the risk of sounding squishy and unreal, bent upon the paranormal -- perhaps, just perhaps, hate crimes are none of the normal things. snip Don't know that I'd go THAT far, Judith, but I do agree that hate crimes are in large part a product of the extreme instability most people feel in their lives today. They're a way of asserting personhood...the WRONG way, but still a self-assertion. To the extent that social instability is being created by someone or something behind the scenes, yes, you really could say that hate crimes are the result of mind control operations. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 17
UNDERNEWS Sam Smith August 17, 1999 The Progressive Review 1739 Conn. Ave. NW Washington DC 20009 202-232-5544 Fax: 202-234-6222 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INDEX: http://prorev.com RECENT UNDERNEWS: http://prorev.com/indexa.htm TODAY'S HEADLINE NEWS: http://prorev.com/altnews.htm THE REVIEW FORUM: http://prorev.com/letters.com DONATIONS AND ORDER FORM: http://prorev.com/order3.htm UNSUBSCRIBE: Reply with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. For a free subscription to our e-mail updates send your postal address with zip code. Copyright 1999, The Progressive Review. Matter not independently copyrighted may be reprinted provided TPR is paid your normal reprint fees, if any, and is given proper credit. Because of its quantity, TPR's mail is not always answered, but it is always read. The editor is cheered or remorseful as appropriate and posts some of the more interesting messages at http://prorev.com/letters.htm -- DRUG BUSTS NEW YORK POST: Staffers at the U.S. Embassy in Colombia may have turned the diplomatic center into a hotbed of drug smuggling by using their little-watched postal system to slip cocaine past American border guards. The embarrassing revelation came out of a deepening probe into charges the wife of the top U.S. anti-drug in Bogota used the rarely checked Army Postal Service to ship cocaine into this country. [UNDERNEWS: One of the easiest ways to bring cocaine into this country is on a military plane.] UPI: Six police officers in Detroit were indicted Friday for allegedly using their badges to protect drug traffickers, make illegal raids, and in some cases conspire to distribute crack cocaine. The indictments followed a year-long investigation by the FBI of the department's Fifth Precinct on the city's east-side. WE ARE NOT MAKING THIS UP UPI: A 77-year-old woman in Kingsford, Michigan, was charged Friday with telephoning four bomb threats to a local factory. Police say Elizabeth Furno may have been upset about the hiring of disabled workers at the plant. JUST TRUST US DEPARTMENT GUARDIAN (LONDON): George Mitchell, the former American senator who strived to bring peace to Northern Ireland, has made an extraordinary intervention to help end the long-running dispute between Mohamed Al Fayed and the security services over an alleged plot surrounding the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, two years ago. In an unprecedented move he is liaising between the Pentagon and the Harrods owner over top secret files held by the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency. Mr. Mitchell is proposing that Robert Tyrer, a chief of staff in the US defense department, would use his security clearance to review the top secret files to see if there is any evidence that would help the French authorities still looking at Princess Diana's death in a car crash in Paris two years ago. Mr. Tyrer would then report back to Mr. Mitchell's office. He would not reveal the details of the papers, but he would disclose whether there was any reference to a plot by the security services or whether such allegations are considered a fabrication. GUARDIAN STORY: http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,74245,00.html GUARDIAN HEADLINES: http://www.prorev.com/altnews.htm THE REVIEW LIST Performance evaluation of Hillary Rodham Clinton's work in the Watergate investigation Jerry Zeifman was general counsel chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee during the Watergate investigation. In an article for the Wall Street Journal he reviews HRC's performance as a staff member: -- She violated House and committee rules by disclosing confidential information to unauthorized persons. -- A number of the legal procedures she recommended were ethically flawed -- In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon representation by counsel. -- She proposed that the committee should neither 1) hold any hearings with or take the depositions of any live witnesses, nor 2) conduct any original investigation of Watergate, bribery, tax evasion, or any other possible impeachable offense of President Nixon. Instead, the committee should rely on prior investigations conducted by other committees and agencies. -- She advocated that the official rules of the House be amended to deny members of the committee the right to question witnesses. -- Zeifman decided that he could not recommend her for any position of public or private trust. JERRY ZEIFMAN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ECO NOTES A survey by the British National Consumer Council finds that 85% of consumers believe that government ministers are denying them vital information about goods ranging from digital television to genetically modified foods. Water levels in the Great Lakes are down 22" over the past year and scientists believe they could drop almost four feet by 2035. CLINTON SCANDALS The Clinton machine is thinking about staging a Clinton Aid concert to help fund
[CTRL] Aye, Aye, Spy
-Caveat Lector- ISSUE 1543Monday 16 August 1999 'The perfect spy, the perfect husband' PicturePictureThe widow of Kim Philby, the MI6 traitor, insists that their marriage was almost embarrassingly idyllic. He would, however, never share the secrets of his work as a KGB operative - or of his home-made curries. Interview by Marcus Warren in Moscow SHE is sitting beside an armchair that belonged to Guy Burgess, opposite an engraving presumed to be a gift from Anthony Blunt, and next to a huge radio on which her husband listened to the BBC World Service. This is the Moscow flat in which, if Kim Philby's widow is to be believed, she and her husband lived in matrimonial bliss that lasted until his death 11 years ago. As Rufina tells it, her marriage to the spy who betrayed a generation of British intelligence officers to his Soviet controllers was not just preternaturally happy; in its own quiet way, theirs was one of the great love stories of recent times. He called her his "tempestuous redhead". Surrounded by mementoes of her late husband, at 66 she is still a handsome woman, whose red hair is complemented by a large pair of pink-rimmed specs. Picture The spy who loved me: Rufina Philby insists her husband was not a traitor "After Kim, I couldn't live with anyone else," she says. "After his death I tried to remember anything he had done wrong so that I could feel bitter. But there was nothing. He really was perfect, quite the perfect husband." Even so, she recalls him complaining towards the end of his life: "No one ever gave me anything. They only took." There seems to be more than a hint in this of resentment at being manipulated or unrewarded by the system he embraced with such fervour as a young undergraduate at Cambridge. But his widow is unable to throw any light on this: extraordinarily, Rufina never talked about "work" with her husband, even though it was surely the key to understanding the man she loved and describes as being constantly aware of the demands of his profession. "I wasn't interested in it." she says. "Especially in Russia, it was something forbidden. I understood he didn't want to talk about it and he knew he couldn't either. You have to remember those times. Also, he never broke the rules of his profession." Like the more sophisticated of his KGB colleagues, she argues that her husband was not a traitor: his decision to serve communism pre-dated his joining the SIS. Call him what you like - cold-blooded, ruthless, a fanatic for an evil cause - she would have us believe that he never betrayed his "ideals". "He didn't feel like a traitor. At the very beginning he took one side and was always for that side," she says. "He was fighting against fascism. But what came after the war . . . perhaps he wasn't completely happy about it." So how did the reality of Soviet Communism measure up when he finally defected in 1963? Not too well, it seems. "He looked Truth in the eyes," she says, resorting to Russian for the only time in our conversation. Then she switches back to English. "He had to live here. He just accepted it as it was." If her husband did indeed fix Truth with his stare and dare it to do its worst, Rufina sometimes prefers not to. I ask about the evidence, well documented, that one of Philby's first tasks on being recruited in the 1930s was to spy on his own father, the eccentric Orientalist, St John Philby. She looks pained. "About his father . . . I can't believe it," she stammers. "I don't know. I can't believe everything in the books. Maybe he wasn't completely happy about that. But he had no choice." By the time he arrived in the Soviet Union, he was faced with a limited choice: to drink himself to death like fellow spy Guy Burgess - a course Philby did indeed pursue at one stage - or to adopt the dogged fatalism that eventually saw him through the rest of his life. For humiliation was heaped on him by his KGB masters, some of whom never trusted the man. After his arrival and debriefing, they gave him nothing of any significance to do for years. The Philbys' flat was bugged. Kim himself never crossed the threshold of the Lubyanka, KGB headquarters, until he was carried in feet first in his coffin to lie in state after his death. His widow's monthly pension is a mere £15.50. Complaining was not in either of their natures, she insists, and certainly did not infect their relationship. Philby was deeply grateful for the small acts of kindness, such as bringing him regular cups of tea, that she says any Russian woman would naturally offer. For his part, he remained the quintessential Englishman abroad, dreaming of nipping down to the pub for a quick drink, enjoying his Oxford marmalade on toast, or making homemade Bath Olivers out of chunks of chocolate and matzos from the Moscow synagogue. This image of Philby contrasts starkly with that of the spy who betrayed untold numbers of
[CTRL] Fwd: Bush family involvement-Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son
8.17.99 Bush family involvement in Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son Copyright 1999 NewsHawk Inc. First-- We regret an error made in a news bulletin issued 8.9.99; entitled "MOSSAD and JFK Jr Crash" in the second to last paragraph of the article. (Note: this is NOT John DiNardo's piece reprinted directly after our "lead-in" in the above-referenced bulletin by NewsHawk ; but our lead-in itself.)" snip "Maybe the date had something to do with it. Bush and his crew were in the Newark area on July 16. Not far from the Caldwell, N.J. airport where JFK Jr. kept his Piper Saratoga. snip In fact Bush and entourage were in the location three days before the date we previously reported: nonetheless this is equally if not more significant, as this was in fact the date of a REGULARLY SCHEDULED servicing of John Kennedy Jr.'s plane at the Caldwell, N.J. airport. This information has been brought to our attention by parties who have in fact leveled some serious charges at George W. Bush (Jr.), Alphonse D'Amato AND George Bush Sr. for their involvement at the highest levels in planning and executing the murder of JFK Jr. Our research shows there are indeed factors which tend to support these allegations, and investigations into this are in progress. A disturbing current emerging here is an almost-ritualistic parallel between the undeniable close involvement in the murder of President Kennedy by then-CIA field operative George Bush Sr. and the questions now arising about the presence of G.W. Bush's entourage--known to have a large number of clones from dad's CIA and other spooky outfits in it's ranks--in the area where John Kennedy Jr.'s plane was kept at the time the plane was due to receive it's maintenance servicing on July 13. The layout: Bush's nomination by the Republican party as their Presidential candidate is a certainty. Bush's "election" to the presidency by decree of the New World Order as implemented through intelligence agencies and PRIVATE, official national vote-counting organizations with their assistants, the state-run mass media outlets, is EQUALLY a certainty. One of the only people who actually could have had more than a snowflake's chance in HELL of monkey-wrenching this monstrous and distorted political juggernaut was John Kennedy Jr. Of this there is no doubt. Beyond any doubt this fact alone gives ample motive for gangster-like "politicians" with connections such as those known coke-fiend G.W. Bush certainly has to "bump off" such a formidable and relatively uncompromised potential rival as JFK Jr.; who perhaps may have even been someone immune to blackmail and intimidation. Now that latter is a REALLY scary thought for NWO puppetmasters! What's more, how much LESS suspicion-arousing to finish Kennedy off BEFORE he even made public any of his serious political ambitions. Methinks me smells the bloodstained hand of ex-CIA Director George Bush behind the scenes, guiding son G.W.'s crew in carrying out this carefully DISGUISED, PRE-EMPTIVE assassination. Ritualistic, cultic Masonic aspects so evident in the murder of President Kennedy in November 1963 seem clearly at work as well the murder of John Kennedy Jr., pregnant wife and sister-in-law. The bloodline is effectively CANCELED OUT. As for Alphonse D'Amato, indications are he had been planted as a "mole" within the ranks of George Magazine as a contributing editor some 6 months ago--with an office at the magazine's Manhattan headquarters. D'Amato would have been in a perfect position to spy and report in on Kennedy; with first-hand knowledge of things like Kennedy's as-yet-unpublicized political ambitions as well as his whereabouts, schedule and general plans, on an up-to-the-minute basis. The extent of D'Amato's general, all-around unsavoriness and corruption in it's more pure form is an open secret, and surely had a good deal to do with his recent ouster by New York voters from his cushy job in Congress. What's more, reliable and knowledgeable sources in New York say D'Amato works closely with New World Order factions and works tirelessly to further their interests by effecting compliance--from local/regional political, governmental, judicial and law enforcement bodies--with activities operations and agendas being implemented by same NWO interests in these particular areas. In other words he makes to the local goons get in line behind the BIG guys' plans. Copyright 1999 NewsHawk Inc. (Rights of unaltered reproduction/distribution waived.)
[CTRL] Fwd: Furrow Military email/URGENT: Pentagon dumps DDN !!!
As always, . . . Om K - 8.17.99 Dissecting Furrow's Email Address -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's NOT forget this email address for Buford Furrow was ACTIVE until a little more than 24 hours after Buford turned himself in to his FBI handlers at their Las Vegas office on Wednesday, August 11. The following was received from a researcher/investigator on Buford Furrow's military email address. NewsHawk Inc. = = = = = = = = = = = = Hi John: Here's what I found so far. DDN is "GONE" as a domain, and so are : nic.ddn.mil whois.ddn.mil ddn.mil AS WELL AS telnet to the database at: ddn.mil; which has been replaced by a website for accessing this data -- http://www.nic.mil/cgi-bin/whois -- which translates to - "MONITORING". That is, a system through which "they" can find things out about people who want to find things out about them. Current 53 sub-domains for .MIL : note : DDN is GONE ... ACOM.MIL - Commander in Chief AF.MIL - SSG/SWSN ARL.MIL - U.S. Army Research Laboratory ARMY.MIL - ARMY SIGNAL COMMAND ARPA.MIL - Advanced Research Projects Agency ASBCA.MIL - Armed Services ASSIST.MIL - Defense Information System Agency/ASSIST BRL.MIL - U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory CENTCOM.MIL - CENTCOM CERT.MIL - ASSIST DAPS.MIL - Defense Automated Printing Service DARPA.MIL - Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency/IPTO DCAA.MIL - Defense Contract Audit Agency DECA.MIL - DEFENSE COMMISSARY AGENCY DEFENSELINK.MIL - Single Agency Manager - SAM DFAS.MIL - DEFENSE FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING SERVICE DIA.MIL - Defense Intelligence Agency DISA.MIL - DISA Information Systems Center DLA.MIL - Defense Logistics Agency DMSO.MIL - Defense Modeling and Simulation Office DODED.MIL - DANTES DSM.MIL - Defense Systems Management College DSS.MIL - Defense Securty Service DSWA.MIL - Defense Special Weapons Agency DTIC.MIL - Defense Technical Information DTRA.MIL - Defense Threat Reduction Agency EUCOM.MIL - USEUCOM HPC.MIL - High Performance Computing Modernization Office IA.MIL - Computer Network Defense JAST.MIL - Joint Strike Fighter Program JCS.MIL - Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division JS.MIL - JSIRMO / Joint Staff JSC.MIL - DOD Joint Spectrum Center JSIMS.MIL - JSIMS JPO NAVY.MIL - Navy NCSC.MIL - National Computer Security Center NIC.MIL - DOD Network Information Center NIMA.MIL - Natl Imagery and Mapping Agency NIPR.MIL - DOD Network Information Center NOSC.MIL - Naval Ocean Systems Center NRO.MIL - National Reconnaissance Office OSD.MIL - 20 Single Agency Manager/Pentagon PACOM.MIL - US military Pacific Command PENTAGON.MIL - Single Agency Manager SOC.MIL - United States Army Special Operations SOCOM.MIL - US SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND SOUTHCOM.MIL - US SOUTHERN COMMAND SPACECOM.MIL - COMMANDER IN CHIEF, US SPACE Command STRATCOM.MIL - United States Strategic Command TRANSCOM.MIL - US Transportation Command USCG.MIL - United States Coast Guard USMC.MIL - USMC Network Operations Center USUHS.MIL - Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences ---end--- Received: from mta102.yahoomail.com (mta102.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.208]) by netisaber.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA16438 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:13:01 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mta102.mail.yahoo.com for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aug 17 14:12:30 1999 -0700 Received: from www.seasurf.com (204.245.233.233) by mta102.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 14:12:27 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-a37.seasurf.com [204.245.235.37]) by www.seasurf.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19482 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:12:44 -0700 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:09:20 + MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: URGENT : Pentagon dumps DDN !!! Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priority: normal In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mozilla-Status2: Hi John : Here's what I found so far : DDN is 'gone' as a domain, and so is : nic.ddn.mil whois.ddn.mil ddn.mil and telnet to the database at : ddn.mil replaced by http://www.nic.mil/cgi-bin/whois which translates to - 'monitoring' AND : it appears that CONUS is now the new phone network, with password and login, for the formerly 'free' telnet whois database ! Finally, all the existing domains for MIL - note : DDN is GONE ... Current 53 sub-domains for .MIL : ACOM.MIL - Commander in Chief AF.MIL - SSG/SWSN ARL.MIL - U.S. Army Research Laboratory ARMY.MIL - ARMY SIGNAL COMMAND ARPA.MIL - Advanced Research Projects Agency ASBCA.MIL - Armed Services ASSIST.MIL - Defense Information System Agency/ASSIST BRL.MIL - U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory CENTCOM.MIL - CENTCOM CERT.MIL - ASSIST
Re: [CTRL] Search Engine Crap
-Caveat Lector- Mary wrote: "I know that the governments want to get their paws on the internet for the purposes of taxes, surveillence, and to make it more favorable for the big corporate guys. It could very well start out as a 'stamp out porno' campaign." == It has already started, and is being heard in the Senate- disguised as "Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act" Thought Crimes! Senators Move to Criminalize Internet Content: The latest attempt to censor free access to information on the Internet goes after discussions of "unapproved drugs." If these Senators have their way, you may land in jail for merely linking to a page that talks about colloidal silver. Join Y2K Newswire is taking a stand against this Orweillian endeavor... The Internet is bad for Big Government. It allows the free communication of ideas that can't be controlled from Washington, and it allows the low-cost education of the American public on ideas such as banking, economics and taxes. China learned this early on and put in place filters that prevent "unapproved" information from moving through the country's computer networks. (All Internet access in China is government-monopolized). This information, by the way, includes topics as dangerous as, say, meditation or Buddhism -- both of which the Communist Chinese government considers a threat to "state security." In fact, the Chinese government is currently engaged in hacking these meditation web sites, destroying their content. The United States government, as of late, seems eager to borrow as many Commie-style controls from China as it can... and this effort isn't limited only to Democrats. The latest is a proposed bill, now backed by eleven Senators and sponsored by Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (Utah), hopes to make it illegal to post or link to a web site that discusses the use of unapproved drugs. While the text of such a bill is not yet publicly available, it's no leap in thinking to suppose it might apply to all unapproved drugs, not just hard core ones like cocaine. Thus, if passed in such a form, the bill would give the FDA total control over all drug-related web content. Want to talk about colloidal silver on the web? Too bad: you'll do jail time if Senators Hatch and Feinstein have their way. Want to link to a site that talks about colloidal silver? Say hello to Ben Dover in cell number nine. Want to discuss the all-natural herb, Stevia? You'll be a felon. One step further and the law prevents you from bad-mouthing those substances approved as "safe" by the FDA. Did your aunt go blind from drinking gallons of aspartame-laced diet soda? You might someday go to jail for sharing that on the 'net. It's "unapproved." YOUR FREEDOM UNDER ATTACK Let's face it: If such a bill were to pass, it would crush the freedoms inherent in the Internet -- the very same freedoms that allow sites like Y2K Newswire to exist. That's how any government takes away power from its people, by the way: control the flow of information. Ever wonder why nearly every mainstream media outlet keeps telling you Y2K has been solved even though none of them have verified much beyond the so-called "facts" in the press releases? It's because they are largely controlled by the same few people. That way, all messages can be approved. And the message they want to get out right now -- to save the banks, mostly -- is that Y2K is no big deal. Distributed information resources scare the heck out of every power-hungry government. Any technology that gives individuals the power to cheaply reach millions of other people is "dangerous" and must be immediately attacked. That's exactly why this attack on "drug content" has begun. Once the bill is passed and the public is comfortable with the intrusion, Senators will move on to "guns." Should that succeed, (making it illegal to discuss guns on a web page) the attack can continue into other "unapproved" areas. In barely a generation, the Internet is 100% government-controlled, and you have -- guess what? -- China! Courtesy of Republican and Democratic Senators alike. The only politicians fighting this will be Libertarians. Congressman Ron Paul, namely. (This web site, by the way, is banned in China.) If you want America to become Communist China, just sit back and do nothing. On the other hand... YOUR CALL TO (EASY) ACTION HAS ARRIVED It is now time for you to do your part and blast these Senators for backing this bill. Hit them with such a massive protest that they will never again consider the censorship of the Internet. Look at the list below, and if you find a Senator from your state, call them and register your complaint. SENATORS BACKING THE BILL Sponsor: Orrin Hatch (Utah) (202) 224-5251 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen Dianne Feinstein (California) Phone: 202/224-3841 Fax: 202/228-3954 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen Joseph Biden (Delaware) Phone: 202-224-5042 Fax: 202-224-0139 Sen
[CTRL] GAO REPORT QUESTIONS SCIENCE BEHIND FDAS ACTION
-Caveat Lector- WASHINGTON, D.C. - House Science Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner stated, "I am concerned about the apparent lack of scientific data behind the FDAs actions. For the FDA one of the most important regulatory agencies in government to use such poor science for a dietary supplement raises warning flags for the other products the agency regulates." Congressman Ralph Hall added that, "According to the GAO report, FDA missed the mark in their proposed regulation. Documentation of FDAs work was inadequate, they failed to record key steps in their analysis, they neglected to review the AERs for reliability, they arbitrarily inflated the benefits of their regulation and all of this fed into their proposed rule. FDA is a science-based agency and can certainly do better and we must insist that they do better. FDA maintains the safety of our food, drugs, cosmetics and now dietary supplements supplies and their work has to be based on the highest standards of scientific conduct. I dont know how you go back and fix the record, which is what FDA says they now want to do. I would suggest that FDA withdraw the proposed rule, do their job right and see whether we cant come up with a rule that everyone can support grounded in real science and reliable data." http://www.house.gov/science/106thpress/106-71.htm (There IS a God ;-) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] a Bush presidency?
-Caveat Lector- What is going to happen to America if Bush becomes president? Since Al Gore, for the most part, has completely distanced himself from the core constituency of the Democratic party, and it looks like he has little chance of changing his act, which consists of more of "the same old-same old," I think it's very possible that we might have a Republican president and a Republican-dominated Congress. Once being handed that kind of power, it will only be natural for the most extreme elements in the Republican Party "to finish the agenda." First off, the religious right will start pressuring President Shrub for a number of Christian measures to be adopted. Not wanting to be left out of the party, the corporate neo-liberal crowd will demand more "market freedom," so we can expect an escalation of mergers, plant closings and the few manufacturing firms that still remain here will probably head offshore. (result? higher standard of living for those who have, lower standard of living for the have-nots.) Next, in order to give new life to the military-industrial firms, a few more brushfire wars will have to be generated in order to justify an arms buildup. So, an escalation of global violence is inevitable. Finally, we can expect rollbacks in education, because, after all, according to New Century logic, why do wage slaves need education in the first place? Education for what? Many "conservatives" are already looking forward to the day when they can eliminate public education altogether. Left stranded working for subsistence wages, trapped in urban centers, the fate of millions of Americans in Bush's New Century will not be a particularly bright one. When the American people finally wake up and learn that they've been conned, of course, it will be too late. Because once the fascist right has had their taste of absolute power, they're not going to want to give it up. I don't think the Bush presidency is going to be a particularly "moderate" one. In fact, I believe that the right wing will finally be given what it wants: a Republican president in partnership with a Republican-controlled Congress. They've spent at least twenty-five to thirty years stewing in their animosity and hate. For a brief period before the Oklahoma City bombing, the drumbeat of hatred and bigotry was almost deafening if you had the misfortune of tuning into talk radio during that period. But with a Bush presidency, they will want victory: the final and complete eradication of all traces of "liberalism" in the country. So, we can say goodbye to the few civil liberties we possess. At last, they'll be able "to clean house." Dubya will be consigned to rubber stamping each idiot measure that comes off of the hill. He will have no choice. Of course, the extreme right has a problem. Not everyone in America is a member of the flying monkey right. There are all those OTHERS who will have to be dealt with. And once they start their plans for "mobilization," we can expect the return of the draft, the creation of motivational "camps" not only for not only the nation's urban youth, but the camps will be the destination of many adults as well. Of course there will be violent opposition--but the right wing isn't particularly worried. Now, I know that some of you might argue my prediction is too chiliastic...after all, Americans have always liked fascism with a friendly face. Orwell's boot eternally stamping down on a human face won't play in America. But I think we have a new crowd eager to play with the controls. The Bush presidency will be just the ticket for the extreme right to enter those final stages of complete psychosis. It wasn't too many years ago that Oliver North was calling for the implementation of "martial law" in Reagan America. Now, interestingly, on the opposite end of the political spectrum, the extreme left sees the coming of a Bush presidency as a blessing. As the last few economic safety nets are quietly removed by the wrecking crew, and as the misery index escalates, many leftists know that a revolutionary potential will be created. They see it as a window of opportunity. Social distress generates militancy. All it takes is a spark. They see the millions of people who now make up the nation's underclass, a group of people who have been PERMANENTLY consigned to servile status by the ruling elite, as potential revolutionaries. Out of the coming unrest, they envision a new political dynamic emerging. But our corporate masters seem to be sublimely untroubled by how the masses of people are going to respond to the nation's final slide into a police state. Why this is so, I can only attribute to the fact that they no longer are interested in the idea of political legitimacy. They already possess the technological means to control us and they're not particularly worried. Of course, hopefully, my chiliastic predictions might not come to pass. I hope not, but I'm not particularly optimistic.
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York (Mortuary)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:34:02 -0500 William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. and the possibilities for abuse are certainly there. Yes they are. My Uncle as well as many other people in many other graveyards have been, "moved around" Not to mention the rarely covered issues of people who like to have sexual relations with the dead. I've always wondered just how credible many of these organizations really are. Is Uncle Joseph really buried in the right grave? Were his remains treated respectfully? Perpetual care only meansthat your stone is more visible beneath the ground when it tips over and instead of the resident lanscapist ripping off your flowers to resell, they just mow over them. Oh and I forget about the stones of residents from long agoconveniently hauled off to create a new plot or sometimes dumped at the end of the foothill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FindLaw Legal Grounds - Tue, August 17, 1999
-Caveat Lector- Ohio Supremes Sour on Tort Reform Ohio Court Nullifies Damage-Suit Curbs Washington Post The Ohio Supreme Court yesterday struck down a law that had sharply curtailed the ability of individuals to sue for damages, concluding that the state legislature violated the separation-of-powers doctrine when it passed the provision two years ago. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/aug99/tort17.htm -- A Blast from the Past: Seditious Conspiracy Appellate Court Backs Convictions in '93 Terror Plot New York Times Yesterday an federal appeals court panel upheld the convictions of Omar Abdel-Rahman and nine others for plotting to blow up New York City landmarks, validating the prosecution of terrorists under a Civil War-era seditious conspiracy law that makes it illegal to wage war against the government. Although the evidence showed that Abdel-Rahman was not involved in the day-to-day planning of the bomb plot, the government argued that his exhortations to his followers amounted to directing the violent conspiracy. http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/regional/ny-terror-plot.html -- Cult or Inquisition? Let's investigate Lawsuit claims Maryland task force is religious inquisition CNN A Maryland task force studying religious cults on college campuses is violating constitutional rights and conducting a "religious inquisition," according to a lawsuit filed by Seventh-day Adventists and Unification Church members. The suit alleges that the state General Assembly has "determined that it is both unnecessary and harmful for students to think for themselves." http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/17/cults.campuses.ap/ You've Got Mail, But No Trademark AOL can't trademark 'You have mail' ZDNet ATT Corp. said it won the go-ahead last Friday from a U.S. court to use slogans and service names, like 'buddy list,' 'IM' and 'You have mail', popularized by rival Internet services provider America Online Inc., in the latest setback to AOL's efforts to fend off competition in its consumer businesses. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2315106,00.html -- Broadband Wars: Return of Preemption FCC reasserts authority over Internet access San Jose Mercury News In a long-awaited friend-of-the-court brief in ATT's case against Portland, Ore., the FCC argued Monday that local officials could create "regulatory disparity" by exercising authority over cable companies offering Internet service. http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/081421.htm -- Prior Restraint? Former Restraint Judge lifts order blocking story over sealed lawsuit Fox News Yesterday a Los Angeles superior court judge withdrew his order that had blocked the Los Angeles Daily Journal from publishing a story about a lawsuit that was mistakenly unsealed. A state appeals court had asked for written arguments Tuesday on the legal newspaper's claim that the order violates freedom of the press. The judge had refused last Friday to lift another judge's restraining order that would have put the legal newspaper at risk of contempt of court if it ran the story but reconsidered Monday and removed the ban, according to a lawyer for the newspaper. http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/national/0816/d_ap_0 816_153.sml -- -- Criminal Law - Arresting Developments -- Spare Change for a Public Defender? State agency says it can't afford to defend Nichols Fox News The head of the Oklahoma state agency that appoints public defenders told a judge yesterday that it does not have the money to adequately defend bombing conspirator Terry Nichols. The Legislature had appropriated $1 million last year for Nichols' defense on state murder charges. In May, however, the Legislature withdrew $900,000 of the funds in Nichols' case and reallocated it to help victims of tornadoes that killed 44 people and destroyed thousands of homes. An attempt to restore the funds failed during a special session in June. http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/national/0816/d_ap_0 816_110.sml -- FINDLAW NEWS SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION To subscribe visit the FindLaw Legal News Page at http://LegalNews.FindLaw.com To unsubscribe visit http://www.findlaw.com/lists/announceunsubscribe.html To receive legal news in HTML e-mail with additional links, please go to the same page and check the HTML mail option. -- Create your
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bush family involvement-Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son
-Caveat Lector- Hi Jabr, Those particular points were not brought up. They're certainly intriguing ones. I posted that it was obvious J. Kennedy's death was an assassination. My particular interpretation was that the elite decided to eliminate him now rather than wait for him to get into office and become a threat later. Whatever might have been his possible shortcomings, he was the ideal candidate for the Democratic party to run for the presidency at some future date. With his charm, good looks and charisma, he would have been easily elected. A John John presidency would have been compared to the presidency of his father; therefore, he would have been obviously tempted to do something for the millions of working people in the country--something that might upset the ruling plutocrats...so a decision was made to eliminate him now rather than later. Of course, there are other dynamics to the possible scenario: a Kennedy family feud with other members of the elite--a revenge dynamic that resembles the plot of Mario Puzo's Godfather trilogy generational violence between our ruling factions. Some of the CTRL contributors don't seem to appreciate the degree of hatred that the Kennedy family has aroused in some of the right wingers.. When JFK was alive, he was repeatedly warned not to go to Texas. But I think his death will be avenged. I would only add that there were many many posts sent to CTRL from a variety of different sources that pointed out all of the peculiar aspects of "the accident." And there weren't too many contributors who believed that it was an accident. On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, jabr wrote: -Caveat Lector- I missed the CTRL comments on J. Kennedy's death several weeks ago -- pardon my late comments here, but did the notion that Carolyn's younger sister might be a Manchurian Candidate and have possibly played a part in harming Kennedy -- and herself ever occur on list? And that Carolyn may have either drown swimming ashore after the ordeal or have lived getting onto Martha's Vineyard, then leading the investigation team to the plane crash site, ever come up? Judith Kris Millegan wrote: Subject: Bush family involvement-Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:38:21 + From: "NewsHawk Inc." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: NewsHawk Inc. To: undisclosed-recipients:; 8.17.99 Bush family involvement in Deaths of President Kennedy AND Son Copyright 1999 NewsHawk Inc. First-- We regret an error made in a news bulletin issued 8.9.99; entitled "MOSSAD and JFK Jr Crash" in the second to last paragraph of the article. (Note: this is NOT John DiNardo's piece reprinted directly after our "lead-in" in the above-referenced bulletin by NewsHawk ; but our lead-in itself.)" snip "Maybe the date had something to do with it. Bush and his crew were in the Newark area on July 16. Not far from the Caldwell, N.J. airport where JFK Jr. kept his Piper Saratoga. snip In fact Bush and entourage were in the location three days before the date we previously reported: nonetheless this is equally if not more significant, as this was in fact the date of a REGULARLY SCHEDULED servicing of John Kennedy Jr.'s plane at the Caldwell, N.J. airport. This information has been brought to our attention by parties who have in fact leveled some serious charges at George W. Bush (Jr.), Alphonse D'Amato AND George Bush Sr. for their involvement at the highest levels in planning and executing the murder of JFK Jr. Our research shows there are indeed factors which tend to support these allegations, and investigations into this are in progress. A disturbing current emerging here is an almost-ritualistic parallel between the undeniable close involvement in the murder of President Kennedy by then-CIA field operative George Bush Sr. and the questions now arising about the presence of G.W. Bush's entourage--known to have a large number of clones from dad's CIA and other spooky outfits in it's ranks--in the area where John Kennedy Jr.'s plane was kept at the time the plane was due to receive it's maintenance servicing on July 13. The layout: Bush's nomination by the Republican party as their Presidential candidate is a certainty. Bush's "election" to the presidency by decree of the New World Order as implemented through intelligence agencies and PRIVATE, official national vote-counting organizations with their assistants, the state-run mass media outlets, is EQUALLY a certainty. One of the only people who actually could have had more than a snowflake's chance in HELL of monkey-wrenching this monstrous and distorted political juggernaut was John Kennedy Jr. Of this there is no doubt. Beyond any doubt this fact alone gives ample motive for gangster-like "politicians" with
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York (Mortuary)
-Caveat Lector- Thank you for the response, Mr. Davis. I've suspected as much. Certainly, in my former state of California, the mortuary-cemetery biz (scam) has become a fine art. My stepmother once worked for Rose Hills...She would listen to the salesmen discuss their trade in private. She described it as a cynical racket...equivalent to a shakedown or mugging. They hit on family members when they were at their most vulnerable.. Who doesn't want their loved one to have the very best in terms of funeral arrangements? The opportunities for padding out the bill are infinite. And you mentioned the ghoulish issue of mortuary workers abusing the bodies of the dead. Positively sickening...but I've read that it's happened. And what about the possibility of the sale of body parts? ...shades of Robert Louis Stevenson's "The Body Snatchers." When I die, I want my loved ones to just plant me in the backyard under the rose bushes no fuss, no muss. Regards, Wm On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Clifford L Davis wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:34:02 -0500 William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. and the possibilities for abuse are certainly there. Yes they are. My Uncle as well as many other people in many other graveyards have been, "moved around" Not to mention the rarely covered issues of people who like to have sexual relations with the dead. I've always wondered just how credible many of these organizations really are. Is Uncle Joseph really buried in the right grave? Were his remains treated respectfully? Perpetual care only meansthat your stone is more visible beneath the ground when it tips over and instead of the resident lanscapist ripping off your flowers to resell, they just mow over them. Oh and I forget about the stones of residents from long agoconveniently hauled off to create a new plot or sometimes dumped at the end of the foothill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SPOTLIGHT Debunks U.N. Police Force In Texas Rumor.
-Caveat Lector- UN Troops Planning to Move on U.S.? The Internet is notorious for spreading tall tales, but you can always count on The SPOTLIGHT to get to the bottom of these stories-fact or fiction-and only publish what is the truth. EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT By Christopher J. Petherick A federal prison in Texas fitting is government vehicles for a possible UN police force to occupy the United States, according to the Internet rumor mill. The SPOTLIGHT contacted prison officials at the purported location and found out the story was bogus. Early August, a rumor was circulating over the Internet that a prison in Bastrop, Tex., was storing "nearly a thousand white buses and sport utility vehicles" fitted with shackles and cages on its grounds. Assumptions ran wild that the vehicles were to be used by a UN police force to incarcerate American citizens. A web site at www.alltexas.net/news/ stated the following: Rumors have been floating in the area for months about a fleet of suspicious vehicles being outfitted with prisoner cages, shackles and insignia such as 'U.S. Police Force' and the UN roundel. None of the vehicles observed in the storage area appeared to have any markings at all other than window stickers with equipment data. Soon others from opposite parts of the country posted pictures on the web, with descriptions such as: "One of many images sent to us showing many school buses being painted from the normal yellow color, to a white color and the words 'UN' in black painted on the sides of them." The photograph was said to have been taken at a Chevy/Oldsmobile car dealership in Lafayette, Ga. The purported "UN" painted on the side of the bus, appeared as though someone had scrambled into the car lot and hastily spray painted "UN" in black on the lower-right-hand side of the first bus in a row of five. THE "OFFICIAL" STORY The SPOTLIGHT spoke with Public Information Officer Timothy Stewart at the Federal Corrections Institute in Bastrop, Tex., who clarified the rumors regarding his prison. "We made up a press release, because we received so many calls about the vehicles," Stewart told The SPOTLIGHT. "Federal Prison Industries has obtained a contract with INS to retro-fit their vehicles with aftermarket items," an official release from the prison says. "Future plans call for remanufacturing of INS and Border Patrol buses and other INS vehicles." Three hundred inmates would be employed to perform the work at the UNICOR factory, a government corporation. Stewart said the vehicles were being held for Border Patrol agents, who would use them along the U.S.-Mexican border to apprehend illegals attempting to cross into the United States. Stewart denied the vehicles were being repainted and fitted for a UN police force to serve on the border. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [7] BETRAYAL
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany Arthur D. Rahn Former Chief Editor of Intelligence Office of the Director of Information Control Office of Military Government, Germany Book Knowledge Warsaw, Poland pps. 237 (no date) out-of-print - --When my friend Sam returned to visit the town where he had previously been stationed, he asked a woman he had known how she had voted in the recent elections. She burst into tears. She would have liked to vote for the Social Democrats and Communist candidates whom she considered good and capable men, but the priest had warned the parish that that would be a mortal sin. In May, the Neue Zeitung, the MG-published newspaper, reported that a Bavarian priest urged his congregation to vote for the CSU candidates, calling them "candidates of God" and the Socialist candidates "candidates of the devil."-- ---" NOT until I sat down to write this book and reflected on my experience and organized my notes did I realize that what had seemed to me and my friends in Germany to be a chaos of corruption and incompetence had actually been a planned development following a very definite pattern. In fact, it has become increasingly clear that the pattern of events in Germany from 1944 to mid-1947 mirrored in sharp perspective what was happening at home in America. Developments in Germany, too, have paralleled our actions in the United Nations and our relations with the Soviet Union, Greece, Spain, China, Britain, Israel with the entire world."--- Om K - CHAPTER SEVEN In The Name Of Christ... "...we can begin to build, under God, that better world in which our children and grandchildren, yours and mine, the children and grandchildren of the whole world must live and can live..." --From report to Congress, March 1, 1945. THE Bishop of Regensburg, who. had proclaimed that "socialism is an antithesis to Christianity and much more dangerous now than Nazism", declared: "Some idealists think that the Church doesn't need a party. I am not one of these idealists." It was "practical" churchmen like this Bishop who fostered the establishment of the Church party, the Christian Democratic Union. When I was in Darmstadt in September, 1945, all the priests and ministers of the city were discussing the advisability of 'organizing a "Christian" party. Landesbischoff Mueller of the Evangelical Church told me that he had just tentatively rejected the suggestion of the Catholic Bishop of Mainz that the two Churches collaborate in the formation of such a party. What most definitely characterized the "Christian" party about which all these clergymen were talking was its completely negative program: opposition to the Communists. Perhaps the most important and certainly the most interesting figure in Darmstadt political life that September was the mysterious Maria Sevenich. Several of the religious leaders and the MG were very suspicious of this woman, who was attempting to organize her own movement for German reconstruction. Fraeulein Sevenich had a dubious political history. Before Hitler, she had been by turns a member of the Social Democratic Party, a member of the German Nationalist Party the party of the Junkers, the officers, the industrialists, the monarchists, and the most nationalistic of the Germans a Communist student leader at the University of Frankfurt and, finally, a supporter of the Socialist Workers Party, a leftist splinter group. She had been expelled officially by the first three parties and possibly by the fourth. . Although Fraeulein Sevenich had fled Germany in 1938 and had been captured by the Nazis in France in 1942 and imprisoned, rumor had it that she was actually a Gestapo agent responsible for the arrest of numerous genuine anti-Nazis. Since her return to Darmstadt in the spring of 1945, Maria Sevenich had been engaged in political activity as a "Christian." (She herself had been baptized a Catholic, had since forgotten her religion, had taken to attacking it, and now was making use of it again.) Like many of the other "Christian" politicians back in September, 1945, Fraeulein Sevenich was still confused about what kind of party the Church party should be. Some of the party leaders thought of the Christian party as a middle-class organization and called it a bourgeois party. Others, like Adolf Leweke, head of the Frankfurt railway workers union, considered all the pre-1933 parties discredited and wanted the "Christian" party to be a new, broad progressive party. In any case, there were only a few hundred professional politicians and clergymen concerned with the problem. The conservatives, in general, the chief backers of this party, had either been supporters of Hitler or well-paid collaborators with the Nazis. They were badly demoralized by the defeat and disorganization of their businesses and were hesitant about engaging in political activity. Not until the wind-up of the January campaign did the Church party become a
[CTRL] [3] The Great Heroin Coup
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence, International Fascism Henrik Kruger Jerry Meldon, Translator South End Press©1980 Box 68 Astor Station Boston, MA 02123 ISBN 0-89608-0319-5 240pps - one edition - out-of-print Orginally published in Danish Smukke Serge og Heroien Bogan 1976 --[3]-- TWO THE DUBIOUS ALLIANCE The love affair of French intelligence and the underworld, the catalyst for Christian David's ascent in gangland, was a product of Franco-American ingenuity. In 1942 Thomas Dewey was the governor of New York. In an earlier role as district attorney he'd won fame battling organized crime. He'd put his most infamous victim, top mafioso Lucky Luciano, away in 1936 for "white slavery." However, Syndicate superstrategist Meyer Lansky had vowed to get his partner out of jail; and Dewey did an about-face when he found himself dependent on the Mob as election time approached. Naval intelligence badly needed the assistance of Luciano, who held sway over New York's longshoremen. One word from the capo and they would rid the harbor of Axis powers' agents and saboteurs who threatened the war effort. The navy approached Dewey, who in turn arranged a meeting with Lansky and Moses Polakoff, Luciano's lawyer. They agreed that since only Lansky could prevail upon Luciano, he would visit his boss in prison. When Lansky proposed a deal guaranteeing him his freedom at war's end, Luciano agreed to cooperate.[1] Thus began Operation Underworld. Luciano ordered his men to obey Lansky, who became the liaison with naval intelligence. Moreover, Luciano's contacts ensured the Allies a soft landing for their invasion of Sicily. In early 1946 Luciano saw his reward. Dewey pardoned and deported him along with some of his lieutenants, but not before he met with agents of the CIA's forerunner, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). When Luciano's ship embarked for Italy, the U.S. appeared to be taking leave of an honored guest. Besides Lansky, Frank Costello, and other Mafia dons, a host of politicians bade him farewell, as longshoremen kept reporters at bay. Social unrest was then sweeping Europe, particularly France and Italy, where Communists, respected for their anti-Fascist resistance during the war, were fast gaining ground. The renowned Wild Bill Donovan, wartime head of the OSS, conceived the idea of using the Mob to battle the "Reds." Though enormously successful, the strategy also resulted, albeit inadvertently, in Mafia inroads in intelligence and politics, both in Europe and the United States. In 1947 the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was established, just at the peak of France's political crisis. The center of unrest was Marseilles, where U.S. intelligence agents were already on the job. Jay Lovestone and Irving -Brown, under cover of the International Ladies Garment Workers Union (ILGWU), had infiltrated French trade unions and were handing out money left and right.[2] In November 1947, the CIA's first director, Admiral Hillenkoetter, sent a team of experienced anti-Communist agents to Paris and Marseilles. It consisted of three OSS veterans and three "representatives" of the American Federation of Labor (AFL). They were told to "do something, anything."[3] Pitched battles disrupted Paris the day the team arrived. The Communists had called for a struggle against the "parti Americain" and the Ramadier government had been toppled. When the agents hit Marseilles, the red flag waved over the Palace of Justice, and the leftists appeared in control of the city. The six agents wired home that the situation was desperate and that drastic measures were needed. Those measures required gangsters from the Italian and Corsican underworld, hordes of whom were sent into battle. Their methods were brutal, the fight short but bloody. Within weeks the hoods had the situation under control. The CIA had been able to mobilize them so rapidly thanks to an important local ally. In early 1947 General de Gaulle had formed a right wing anti-Communist front, the Rassemblement du Peuple Francais (RPF), forerunner of the present-day Gaullist, party (UDR). It soon established a security corps known as the Service d'Ordre du RPF (SO du RPF). The corps made extensive use of Corsican gangsters against its political enemies. Dominique Ponchardier, its commander, later glorified the escapades of his Gorilles in a series of novels; other ringleaders included Roger Frey, Roger Barberot, Alexandre Sanguinetti, Paul Comiti and Jacques Foccart.[4] The Socialist party also plunged in headlong against the Communists, and worked especially closely with the CIA. Its security corps, the SO de la SFIO, also numbered Corsican hoods in its ranks. Among the criminals recruited in 1947 by the CIA and SO du RPF were the Guerini brothers, the Francisci clan, Jo Renucci and Jo Attia, pillars of the underworld about whom we'll say more in the chapters that follow. Unfortunately for the six-man CIA team, word
[CTRL] [10b] The Treason of the Senate
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Treason of the Senate David Graham Phillips Intruoduction by George E. Mowry Judson A Grenier©1964 All Rights Reserved Quadrangle Books 180 North Wacker Drive Chicago LCCN 64-21838 --[10b]-- The meetings of the Gridiron Club of Washington newsmen and correspondents were a capital tradition, attended by most important government officials, including the President. Sessions were informal and off the record, and reporters felt as free to lampoon the politicians as they to ridicule the press. Chauncey Depew bad addressed the first dinner of the Gridiron Club-its organizational meeting-and often since had been its guest. Roosevelt could expect a sympathetic audience there for a defense of Depew, and his opportunity arose when House Speaker Joseph Cannon gave a dinner for the club on March 17, 1906. The President spoke off-the-cuff and without notes of "the man .vith the muckrake" who makes slanderous assaults on public officials. Although he had originally intended to mention Phillips by name, be was dissuaded by Senator Root from giving the author further notoriety. The "muckrake" allusion, though not original with Roosevelt, immediately caught on, and, if the speech was meant to be a trial balloon, it was a success. The following day, Roosevelt told Steffens that he had spoken "to comfort Depew," but, ever sensitive to wider political potentialities, the President determined to expand his remarks for a national audience at the laying of the cornerstone of the House Office Building on April 14, 1906. Steffens thought Roosevelt "felt the satiety of the public with muckraking." Ray Stannard Baker, attempted to deter him from making the speech, on the grounds it would encourage indiscriminate attack upon exposures "which may prevent the careful study of modern conditions and the presentation of the facts in a popular form," but the President insisted that he wanted to make the speech to prevent such a misunderstanding-he would distinguish between the "light and air" of responsible publications and the "sewer gas" of Hearst's papers and magazines. When the speech was delivered, no such distinction was made. Roosevelt's muckrake speech is reprinted in the Appendix. In it he combined "the man with the muckrake" with suggestions for federal inheritance taxes and controls over corporations. It indicates the familiar Roosevelt technique of balancing attacks on the left with attacks on the right. It is said that when he reached the phrase, "Under altered external form we war with the same tendencies toward evil that were evident in Washington's time . . . " he waved his band over the heads of the Senators gathered around him, and the crowd laughed merrily. Actually, the President misused the "muckrake" allegory he borrowed from John Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress. Traditionally, the muck of the barnyard symbolized worldly riches; the muckraker image would better represent the money-seeker than the truth-seeker. But the name stuck, permanently affixed not only to Phillips and Hearst but to a generation of magazine reporters. The President's speech did not end his concern over the "Treason" series. Each new article seemed to rekindle his indignation. On May 23, he suggested to Lorimer, the Post editor, that Phillips had accepted Hearst money in order "to achieve notoriety." Most of the Senators Phillips attacked, rather than being "all black" and concerned only with their own pecuniary interests, were simply normal men. Roosevelt added: Phillips takes certain facts that are true in themselves, and by ignoring utterly a very much larger mass of facts that are just as true and just as important, and by downright perversion of truth both in the way of misstatement and of omission, succeeds in giving a totally false picture ... [The articles] give no accurate guide for those who are really anxious to war against corruption, and they do excite a hysterical and ignorant feeling against everything existing, good or bad; the kind of hysteria which led to the ,red fool fury of the Seine' . . ." On June 18, the President wrote Lyman Abbott that the Cosmopolitan, thanks to Hearst and Phillips, "is the friend of disorder, less from principle than from the hope of getting profit out of troubled waters." On August 17, he told Taft and Cortelyou that "the fact that a thing appears in the Cosmopolitan is presumptive evidence of its falsehood." On October 25, he wrote the Englishman John St. Loe Strachey that Hearst "is the most potent single influence for evil we have in our life." Although the President seemed to grow angrier as he pondered Phillips's articles, the suspicion remained that Roosevelt had encouraged attacks on Congress by using outspoken language about his Senatorial adversaries in private conversation. After his muckrake speech, some newspapers-such as the New York World and the New York Post-suggested not only that the President was a muckraker himself but that some of the
[CTRL] [10a] The Treason of the Senate
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Treason of the Senate David Graham Phillips Intruoduction by George E. Mowry Judson A Grenier©1964 All Rights Reserved Quadrangle Books 180 North Wacker Drive Chicago LCCN 64-21838 --[10a]-- INTRODUCTION PUBLICATION of David Graham Phillips's "The Treason of the Senate" by the Cosmopolitan Magazine in 1906 was, in many respects, the climax of the muckraking movement in American journalism. The bold, outspoken, often intemperate language of an author dedicated to "the search for truth" captures the essence of both the best and worst aspects of muckraking. In addition, the political dialogue stirred by publication of these articles constitutes a chapter in the history of the progressive movement and provides insight into the careers of two major public figures, Theodore Roosevelt and William Randolph Hearst. The "era of the muckrakers" is generally assumed by historians to have begun with the publication by McClure's Magazine of Lincoln Steffens' "Tweed Days in St. Louis" in October, 1902, and to have ended in the Progressive party's Gotterddmmerung with the election of Woodrow Wilson in 1912. The muckraking movement thus coincides in time with progressive domination of the Republican party, rising to fame with Roosevelt and, though castigated by him, supporting the Colonel as history swept by at Armageddon. Progressivism as a social force received its impetus from the journalistic technique of exposing to public view the malpractices of nineteenth-century society. Like journalism, progressivism relied upon the moral and ethical efficacy of democracy to correct social evils once they were exposed. In most social upheavals, a vanguard usually brings old institutions into disrepute, paving the way for new ones. The muckrakers played this role. From 1902 to 1912, they led the nation in the systematic uncovering of the strands of a giant web of control, linking politics, education, the press, religion, health, and high finance. Their names-Lincoln Steffens, Ida M. Tarbell, Ray Stannard Baker, Charles Edward Russell, Thomas W. Lawson, Samuel Hopkins Adams, Upton Sinclair, David Graham Phillips-were household words. The magazines that published their articlesMcClure's, Collier's, Everybody's, the American, and the Cosmopolitanacbieved circulations in the hundreds of thousands and won an unprecedented mass readership across America for the "literature of exposure." Trained in the Christian ethic and devoted to the people's right to know, the muckrakers revealed the corruption of public men and corporations in the name of morality, a heightened public awareness, and the common good. Their crusade was consecrated to the precept of St. John viii:32: "And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free." Many muckrakers conformed almost to a pattern. They were born in the 1860's to middle-class parents and grew up in Midwestern towns which their families bad, a generation or two earlier, helped to establish. Their fathers, landowners or editors, ministers or bankers, but seldom factoryowners, were influential in the business-professional society of the town. Usually thoroughly Protestant oriented, these young men were trained in the public schools to have deep reverence for American historical tradition, particularly the individualistic and equalitarian romance of the frontier, and an intimate knowledge of the forms and moral messages of English literature and classic parable. Small Midwest colleges sharpened their talents for expression and stimulated their desire to give their lives meaning by becoming creative writers. The necessity of earning a living, however, diverted their talents into journalistic channels, and they became newspaper reporters in some nearby city. Within a few years, they migrated to New York or Chicago and were caught up in the glamor and excitement of the golden age of American journalism, with reporter Richard Harding Davis its symbol and Park Row his throne. Steadily, these newsmen became conscious of the changes in American society produced by the industrial revolution, particularly "our serious public corruption ... of a kind unknown to the people of two generations ago." Images were seared into their minds-extremes of wealth and poverty shattering their comfortable illusion that America was composed of communities of neighborly homesteaders who uplifted the community by uplifting themselves. Sometimes their eyes were opened by reading Henry George's Progress and Poverty, but more often by what they observed: in Chicago a dynamic World's Fair providing a glittering backdrop for a dirty slum; in New York a fashionable Fifth Avenue within walking distance of long rows of tenements stuffed with penniless immigrants and owned by a wealthy Wall Street church. They pondered ethical questions: What has happened to American morality? How have we gone astray? Who has betrayed us? And, as reporters exploring the labyrinth of debased city
[CTRL] BBC- Pentagon Re-Opens Di File.
-Caveat Lector- Wednesday, August 18, 1999 Published at 00:34 GMT 01:34 UK Pentagon reopens Diana file Pentagon reopens Diana file Defence chiefs in the United States have agreed to reopen intelligence files to look for references to Diana, Princess of Wales, following a request from Harrods boss Mohamed al-Fayed. Mr al-Fayed has long suspected that the crash that killed Diana and his son Dodi in Paris in August 1997 was orchestrated by British and US intelligence agencies. He says he is 99% sure it was not an accident but maintains he is "open-minded". Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon confirmed on Tuesday that Robert Tyrer, chief of staff to Defence Secretary William Cohen, is to review the documents. But he pointed out they had already been examined last May and provided no information useful to the investigating judge in France, Herve Stephan. 'Paparazzi not to blame' The move comes after the office of France's state prosecutor confirmed it had recommended dropping charges against nine paparazzi and a motorcycle courier in connection with Diana's death. Judge Stephan, who is investigating the accident, is expected to announce within the next few weeks the findings of his two-year inquiry. Mr al-Fayed obtained the assurance from the Pentagon after making an approach via former US Senator George Mitchell, the man who brokered the Good Friday peace agreement in Northern Ireland. Mr al-Fayed's spokesman said: "We made the request, which appears to have been accepted, and we understand through our lawyers in Washington that there will be a new inspection of security files which we hope will be helpful in the Paris inquiry. "Mr al-Fayed has always hoped that people will be open minded about what happened in Paris. 'Consider the less obvious' "People should not just look at the obvious but also consider topics that might be less than obvious." Last December, the US Government admitted Diana was mentioned on 1,056 pages of intelligence documents compiled by the National Security Agency. But they said the references were incidental and said she was never a target of US intelligence operations. Some conspiracy theories, floated on the Internet in the wake of the crash, claim Diana and her lover were killed because they were about to announce their engagement. Conspiracy theorists hold that the British "establishment" could not countenance the idea that a future head of state - Prince William - would have a Muslim stepfather. But the BBC's Washington correspondent, Gavin Hewitt, says the US Government wants to demonstrate to the conspiracy theorists that it has no information suggesting Diana's death was anything other than an accident. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New York, New York (Mortuary)
-Caveat Lector- Some entity I am convinced now is usurping body parts probably from every newly dead corpse for consumption. I have no evidence, so pardon my inate bluntness about this. My father made the point as we visited the mortician making up my grandmother in 1989 that these people he hated. And the guy we dealt with was very very sleezy feeling indeed. Plus most morticians are Italian that I have ever known. No. Something ELSE is going on the body parts business now -- this I believe, very very sincerely. Let's please open this up before any of us dies -- this is not a credible situation. Perhaps covens, particular crime syndicates LIVE on body parts and blood. We MUST know who is running these horrendous satanic groups in this and why. Soon. Judith William Hugh Tunstall wrote: -Caveat Lector- Thank you for the response, Mr. Davis. I've suspected as much. Certainly, in my former state of California, the mortuary-cemetery biz (scam) has become a fine art. My stepmother once worked for Rose Hills...She would listen to the salesmen discuss their trade in private. She described it as a cynical racket...equivalent to a shakedown or mugging. They hit on family members when they were at their most vulnerable.. Who doesn't want their loved one to have the very best in terms of funeral arrangements? The opportunities for padding out the bill are infinite. And you mentioned the ghoulish issue of mortuary workers abusing the bodies of the dead. Positively sickening...but I've read that it's happened. And what about the possibility of the sale of body parts? ...shades of Robert Louis Stevenson's "The Body Snatchers." When I die, I want my loved ones to just plant me in the backyard under the rose bushes no fuss, no muss. Regards, Wm On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Clifford L Davis wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:34:02 -0500 William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Speaking of conspiracies, I've often wondered about the mortuary business. and the possibilities for abuse are certainly there. Yes they are. My Uncle as well as many other people in many other graveyards have been, "moved around" Not to mention the rarely covered issues of people who like to have sexual relations with the dead. I've always wondered just how credible many of these organizations really are. Is Uncle Joseph really buried in the right grave? Were his remains treated respectfully? Perpetual care only meansthat your stone is more visible beneath the ground when it tips over and instead of the resident lanscapist ripping off your flowers to resell, they just mow over them. Oh and I forget about the stones of residents from long agoconveniently hauled off to create a new plot or sometimes dumped at the end of the foothill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
Re: [CTRL] HORRORS The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- I don't agree with these statements. I do believe "entities" can quell their octopus-like computer arms and "manage" politically and economically, whole countries and city-states. In fact I go further than this -- the Manchurian Candidate model -- the use of individual humans in robotic roles in communities -- could control whole communities and countries, if their implant scenarios are being quelled into one pocket of info or being watched via resources such as implant-remotes, dishes and satellites. Add in the vast unbelieveable Intel agent resources which have been unleashed into the American atmosphere over the past horrendous five years (the FBI alone was getting, without black project monies 1.2 billion from Congress last year, according to news reports) -- what is this money being spent on? Is any of it accountable to any particular thing? We have had for years thousands of dollars in fed money spent on trinkets reported in the news -- weirdo stuff like paper erasers charged to the feds for $100 each, etc. After 30 years of listening to this crap, I wanna know what the feds are really doing behind closed doors and I am far more interested in conspiracy thinkers like Mae Brussell who were not willing to accept any status quos or excuses for facts that simply do not add up. An amazingly complex and unsupervised econonic system COULD be controlling mankind. It may even control his every thought-deed-and damn it, his every shit and piss. Big bro is well on the way to the next stage. But, this new generation (20-30 year olds) has nothing I know to recommend it -- NO LEADERS -- no verve -- no ARTISTS -- no muscicians -- young people now are compliant, totally ball-less in terms of revolution. Moreover, many of them are settling for homosexual mates, who are immoral (some homosexuals are NOT immoral -- and this I do believe -- it may be a minority, however). The technologies and Gulag are in place. Unreal that the younger generations are eating up the icing, not realizing what the cake is not worth their time, the only answer in that mess is that these younger people are gone interms of unresting the REAL story. In that case, I advise the 40 - 65 Hippies-who-know-age-set to consider "sly extreme" measures to take over what is left of these new children, with the hope that they can raise a generation underneath the currently possessed and sold-outs and drugged out parents (this includes prozac) to another realm. The young people have NOTHING supporting their corruption now. Nothing. Unless they are fearless in working with a new underground. And the underground has hopefully many cool original Hippies at its stead. Cause the status quo has nearly nothing to offer humanity. Judith Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/16/1999 12:19:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do omnipotent conspiracies exist that control information, politics, economics? Unknowable - if such conspiracies DO exist, all one THINKS one knows about them derives from data that they control; thus the conspiratorialist is their dupe, manipulated by all their leaks, their disinfo campaigns. Not so, since even "grand" conspiracies can't control all information all the time. It is possible to get unmodified information and form an opinion. It is true though that since much of what is disseminated is controlled as disinformation (or truth if it suits their purpose) it is difficult to KNOW if any given conspiracy is in fact "real". It is not unknowable, just difficult to uncover And even more difficult to control are the clearly observable results of these conspiracies. It's kind of like knowing that a distant planet has a moon by observing distortion in its orbit. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990817d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No brittle mentalities disintegrated during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ORB MYSTERY *S*O*L*V*E*D*?! "Are there Aliens haunting us from a river basin in New Jersey? Entering our world through a little known portal called the 'Vortex'??.NOT! Welcome to 'Orb World'!.. ..Where nearly anyone can find aliens in their own back yard!!" The world of orbs: http://members.aol.com/Analogsys/index2.html : Have you been orbed yet? Are you an orb? Have you found any aliens in your back yard? Do you have pictures of them? Do they have pictures of you? Yeah? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # An Oddity in Space Baffles Experts. (NYTimes) Astronomers have an unyield- ing mystery on their hands, something they have observed pondered for 3 years, a point of light deep in the northern sky like nothing seen before. http://nytimes.com/library/national/science/081799sci-mystery-star.html : Do you like mysteries? Are scientific mysteries good for enhancing your reputation, should you figger'em out? Are questions better than answers?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE HEAT IS ON(line): This site, based on the book The Heat Is On, by Ross Gelbspan: Shows the truth about climate change; Shows the central drama: the ability of this planet to sustain civilization vs. the survival of the fossil fuel biz; Catalogues the last 4 years of increasingly frequent and severe extreme weather events worldwide; Summarizes the major scientific findings about global warming; Documents a pervasive/successful industry disinfo campaign; Outlines a global solution which may begin to stabilize our inflamed climate, at the same time triggering an unprecedented gain in overall wealth of the global economy. http://www.heatisonline.org/main.cfm : Did humans evolve as a homeostatic mechanism to increase the ambient plan- etary temperature of Gaia? Is global warming our job? Is resistance futile? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Giant Antarctic iceberg poses threat to shipping. WASHINGTON (AP) The U.S. National Ice Center issued a warning Tuesday a giant iceberg is posing a threat to shipping in the ocean between South America and Antarctica. The iceberg, named B-10A, measures 24 by 48 miles (39 by 77 kilometers). It is drifting southeast at about seven to nine miles (11 to 14 km) per day and smaller icebergs are breaking off as it moves into relatively warmer seas. A cautionary zone has been established 165 miles (234 km) in radius around the berg. http://cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9908/17/BC-US-IceDanger.ap/ : How much more global warming will it take before icebergs swarm the seas, making ocean traffic around the capes impossible? Are humans causing global warming all by ourselves, or are aliens/deities/demons/Gaia help us? Why?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SUBSET OF CHILDREN SHOW SIGNS OF VIOLENT FUTURE. Here's the unpleasant truth: Physicians cannot reliably identify children who go on to commit random, uncharacteristic acts of violence, such as the recent school shootings: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/10972.rhtml # Also: Clinton to parents: Talk to kids about violence: http://cnn.com/US/9908/17/youth.violence.02/index.html # SOCIAL ISOLATION, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MENTAL ILLNESS LINKED TO SUICIDE IN YOUNG PEOPLE. People under 35 years who commit suicide are significantly more likely than their peers to have a history of psychological disorders, social isolation, and interpersonal difficulties. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/10997.rhtml # Also: Students' return to Columbine marred by swastikas: http://cnn.com/US/9908/17/columbine.swastikas.ap/index.html : What are the most effective ways to drive children towards violence, psy- chopathologies, social dysfunction? Who practices those techniques? Why?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Lawsuit claims Maryland task force is religious inquisition. BALTIMORE (AP) A Maryland task force studying religious cults on college campuses is violating constitutional rights and conducting a "religious inquisition," according to a lawsuit filed by Seventh-day Adventists and Unification Church members. http://cnn.com/US/9908/17/cults.campuses.ap/index.html : What cults, religions, sects, philosophies would you like to investigate? Would you like to recruit impressionable youth into your belief system? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # The False Memory Debate: Social Science or Social Backlash? http://www.mentalhealth.com/mag1/p5h-mem3.html # Budding Campaign - Pot users urged to fight arrests, promote legalization: http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/norml17.htm # Stanford tested psychiatric drugs on young inmates: http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/drug17.htm #
[CTRL] Trading Wars
-Caveat Lector- www.wsws.org - WSWS : News Analysis : World Economy As WTO prepares for "Millennium Round" World trade conflicts intensify By Nick Beams 18 August 1999 Back to screen version An article published in the Financial Times last Saturday on some recent activities of the US Central Intelligence Agency has cast a revealing light on the tensions between the major capitalist powers as they prepare for the ministerial meeting of the World Trade Organisation to be held in Seattle in November to set the agenda for global trade negotiations in the so-called Millennium Round. Entitled CIA rehearses for sleepless night in Seattle, it reported that earlier this month the National Intelligence Council, which reports to CIA director George Tenet on potential threats to US national security, had held a mock WTO conference in Washington in order to prepare for the November meeting. A CIA spokesman said the exercise had been undertaken to prepare policymakers for the meeting and that the agency routinely held such conferences in order to help sharpen the level of debate about important issues. According to the report: Delegates to the mini conference included a wide range of intelligence officers, former senior trade officials, academics and others. Many are understood to have played the parts of representatives of other countriesin particular of traditional trade rivals such as the EU and Japanto try and simulate what kinds of debate and disagreements might be heard in November. It noted that while the CIA was widely rumoured to have stolen the position papers of the French delegation towards the conclusion of the so-called Uruguay Round of global trade negotiations in 1993, the decision to give such prominence to the forthcoming ministerial meeting appears to mark a new departure for US intelligence. Preparations for the WTO meeting have been underway for several months amid growing reports of deep divisions between the major economic blocs. Last Monday, for example, the Australian Financial Review reported that the tabling of policy positions by WTO members had exposed a startling absence of consensus on the content of the negotiating round. While there was agreement of the need to include agriculture and services, there was little common ground, particularly among the major countries on the rest of the agenda. The EU and Japan are believed to be in favour of the development of global rules on investment and competition policy. But the US is opposed to such a wide agenda fearing that it could take years to reach such broad agreement, thereby holding up the adoption of specific policies to open up markets in services, agriculture and industrial products. Even before the talks get underway, this year has already seen the eruption of a bitter conflict between the US and the EU over agricultural policies with the US imposing punitive duties under WTO rules in retaliation for the refusal of the EU to abide by rulings on the imports of banana and hormone-treated beef. But the beef and banana wars may well turn out to be just the preliminary skirmishes for a even bigger conflict over the issue of genetically modified foods, for which the EU decided to suspend authorisation in June until a new system of safety standards could be agreed upon. Issuing his first major policy statement since taking up the post of US ambassador to the EU in July, Richard Morningstar warned that Europe and America are heading for a $1 billion trade war if the EU persisted in its opposition. In a biannual Letter from Brussels, Morningstar, who previously held the position of Special Adviser to the President on Caspian Basin energy, said that politics and demagoguery have completely taken over the regulatory process in regard to EU policy on genetically modified foods. Particularly in the UK, the media has learnt to love a good food safety scare, and the public debate all too often is dominated by scare stories and nightmare scenarios without any scientific basis. Until the EU can credibly separate science-based risk assessment and regulations from the political process the outlook for resolution of this issue is bleak. There was a danger that the EU was over-reacting to the Belgian dioxin food scare and was moving to impose bans on animal feed substances which were permitted in the US. Hasty EU actions in this area risked becoming another trade flashpoint. With the market in genetically-modified foods likely to be worth billions of dollars in the coming years, the conflict over this issue would make the row over beef and bananas pale by comparison, he warned. But agriculture is not the only area of dispute. Even more significant could be the demand by the US that a global free market in services be established as a result of the WTO
[CTRL] Green Groans
-Caveat Lector- www.wsws.org - WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Germany New faction in the German Green party Right-wing young Greens go on the offensive By Ludwig Niethammer 18 August 1999 Back to screen version The right-wing turn by the Green party is intensifying weekly. At the beginning of July a large section of the so-called "Young Greens" went public with a statement in which they demanded a totally new programmatic orientation for the party. The statement likens the current program to an attic, and calls for the dumping of nearly everything that has been thought of as essential to Green politics. The authors write: "We think it is time to clean out the attic, to keep what's valuable and get rid of the rubbish." This was written only two weeks after the NATO attacks on Serbia began. The Green Foreign Minister of Germany, Joschka Fischer, won support for the war from the majority of his party. In addition, Social Democratic Chancellor Schröder's legislation for 30 billion deutsche marks in cuts in the social sector has been carried through with the help of the Social Democrats' Green coalition partners. On the basis of this record one might think that the Green party's metamorphosis was complete. But this is not so. The Young Greens think that the turn to the right by the party is neither fast nor far-reaching enough. They think of themselves as "second generation" Greens. Their understanding of politics seems to consist in establishing the most effective means for satisfying their own needs. Openly indifferent to the social needs of the majority of the population, they consider such questions solely as cost factors. They proclaim: "We are fed up with seeing people of our age going in large numbers to the other parties, and then being treated in a patronising manner ourselves when we speak about our activities in the Greens. The time of peace and compromises is overwhat is needed is a clear decision over the correct orientation of the party in the future. We stand for a clear, power-conscious, pragmatic position, but also for a partial replacement of the partys membership." One is reminded of the famous saying of Berthold Brecht that the government should elect a new people. The Young Greens, it seems, would like to elect an alternative to their party's weary following. The Young Greens write about the founding generation of the partythe generation of 1968and reveal the decaying innards of their organisation. "Put an end to the tales of 1968: we understand very well that the founders have difficulties with the change from a movement to a party They achieved a lot. Many thanks. But please, stop getting on the nation's nerves with your stories from way back when, and be more courageous in admitting your own mistakes. "Yes, you were for another system. Yes, you undertook the valiant but unsuccessful struggle against capital. Yes, for you the employers were part of the Evil Empire. That was false at the time, is still false today, and when it comes down to it, you know it as well as we do. Just admit it, instead of turning your speeches into endless, vain accounts of the mistakes and errors of your youth. Those of us from the second generation, at least, aren't interested in how you made your peace with the market economy. The point is that you have. For us, any questioning of the system arose only for a short period, then it became clear, we are for the system, although we recognise its faults and want to put them right." This address, authored by two Greens from the German state of Hessen (Jens Köcher and Mathias Wagner) received a positive reception from broad sections of the party. Amongst the initiators were several members of parliament, like Matthias Berninger and Cem Özdemir. The latter pair are political pupils of Joschka Fischer and another leading Green, Rezzo Schlauch. They initiated the so-called "Pizza Connection", i.e., regular meetings with the "Young Rebels" (young Christian Democratic members of parliament) in an Italian restaurant in Bonn. It is not just the Young Greens who openly speak about inheriting that which remains of the Free Democratic Party (FDP). The Green leadership as a whole is competing with the FDP over which of the two parties will represent the "better off" layers of society. There were, of course, angry reactions to this right-wing declaration, under the banner "The Green Party deserves a second chance," and the caterwauling, so characteristic of the Greens, began again. The "left-wing pragmaticians" complain about the harsh tone and methods used by the right because they fear, with good reason, they could be purged from the party. In fact, there is no way back to the old days of political consensus and social equilibrium advocated by the "left pragmaticians" in their paper, which is
Re: [CTRL] Evolving concepts and evolving worlds
-Caveat Lector- Straight from the horse's mouth. Good enough for you, Mr. Ed ? "World Federalists" ... like the Bush family, the Rockefellers, the members of the Council on Foriegn Relations, the Bilderbergers, the members of the Trilateral Commission, and a pile of others- are and have been since before the U.N. was instituted planning to use it as a stepping stone to the "New World Order" (novus ordo seclorum, in "updated" language) ... and it is easily possible to track these intentions and continuous planning far back in history. "We shall have world government whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent". -James Paul Warburg, Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, 1921 - 1932, before the U.S. Senate, February 17, 1950 " Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - President Woodrow Wilson "To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas". -Brock Chisolm, former Director of the World Health Organization Thank you AMG ! Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 10:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Katie Hernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Evolving concepts and evolving worlds Many years ago I belonged to the World Federalist Association. Among the many founders of the organization as I recall were Albert Einstein, J. Robert Oppenheimer and Wendall Wilkie. The object at the time was to promote the UN as a stepping stone in the creation of a World Federation. Among the objects in creating world unity and the expansion of representative democratic government was the creation of a single monetary standard, a single labor and wage standard and the abolition of all tariffs. Forty five years later we are still moving in that direction with slowly increasing speed. Possibly, we will succeed in our transition to a fully open society within the next forty five years. What will aid us in out quest more than anything else I suspect, is the further expansion of open communications in combination with an educational system that is increasingly geared to individual creative thought with the development of each persons ability to make continuous fully informed value judgments in full cooperation and integrated within a horizontally structured, fully participative and supportive socio-political environment. The need for an all encompassing integrated structure is probably essential to the avoidance of anarchic concepts. Broad social understanding and tolerance developing within such an environment will, hopefully, act to enhance social responsibility and respect for individual intellectual growth. I suspect, however, that we will never achieve a utopian ideal. There will probably always be those whose egos will prevent them from seeing beyond the self and understanding the need for responsible involvement in creating and maintaining an ever expanding civilization dedicated to advancing the common good. AMG DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton/. Bush Cocaine Problems
-Caveat Lector- It looks as if we might have a President and a Governor with cocaine problems...this is NEWS. "Rumors" says Mr Bush. These rumors have been around for years...its time the evidence was examined. When the same information comes from an LAPD Narcotics Detective, a Congressional Counsel, fomer CIA operatives, Special Forces officers, a Congresswoman .and many other solid sources...any sensible citizen says " "lets take a look at their arguments and evidence". What we are getting is cover up. .Why doesnt Senator Kerry (Narcotics sub committee) release the data in his files ? Is he covering for Bush and Clinton? ASU. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
