[CTRL] Aging

1999-09-12 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From Intellectual Capital.CoM


 Issue of the Week: The New Elderly
 by Andrew Olivastro
 Thursday, September 09, 1999
 Comments: 40 posts Picture


  We are continually finding ways to
 increase the life span of the human race. Researchers and doctors, often with
 the help of government subsidies, toil countless hours in labs attempting to
 figure out ways to stave off disease and allow people to live longer. Meanwhile,
 health officials offer sound advice on how to maintain a healthy lifestyle to
 those of us who want to listen. The end result is the dramatic increase in life
 expectancy among certain elements of the American population.

 That increase does not come without a price. While arguing the negative results
 of such procedures might seem inhumane, the next 50 years will see a dramatic
 increase in America's elderly population -- an increase that, by most accounts,
 the United States is not prepared to handle.

 In 1900 only one in 25 Americans was over 65; by 2040, according to the Census
 Bureau, the figure will be a little less than one in four or five. Already the
 wave is rising: 33 million Americans are over 65 years old. Their ranks will
 more than double by 2030. The Society of Actuaries says Americans born in 1997
 can expect to live 76.5 years. By 2050, that life expectancy will rise to 80 and
 older.

 Science demonstrates that genes account for only about 50% of the aging process.
 Change in lifestyle can tip the odds in favor of a longer, healthier, more
 productive life. Just how long and healthy is still open for debate. How soon
 will we be 90 and feel and look like we are 40? Is such a day really on the
 horizon?

 Effects of the demographic shift

 Though aging is a perfectly normal, and everyday, occurrence, the impending
 demographic shift (as boomers reach retirement age over the coming decade)
 leaves one wondering how society should prepare for it. Will America be able to
 handle this crush -- and its associated problems?

 Picture:  Can America prepare for the elderly? 
 Can America handle
 the boom?
 Just what those problems are depends on whom you ask. Here is a look at seven
 issues that will effect older Americans -- and the United States as a whole --
 in the coming century.



 •Social Security and Medicare. Entitlement programs dominate much current
 political debate because widespread and early retirement will affect the lives
 of everyone. As the number of elderly rises, so will the burden on the young of
 paying for their pensions and health care.

 The size of the baby-boom generation promises a simple but vast imbalance as
 they age: too few people working, paying taxes and pension contributions while
 the retired population drawing pensions and running up health costs rises.

 •Cost of living. Baby boomers are the first generation of which both genders are
 expected to live well into their 80s -- many to 100. The question is, can they
 afford it?

 Robert Kahn, University of Michigan professor and co-author of Successful Aging,
 predicts increased work opportunities for aging Americans.

 "Talk of a crisis implies that all older people are a burden on society," Kahn
 says. "That's a fiction generated by national statistics. The gross domestic
 product, for example, ignores anything unpaid. Therefore if you write copy for
 cigarette commercials you're viewed as more valuable than a hospital volunteer
 (who doesn't get paid)."

 Kahn continues: "Sixty-five is not 65 anymore. People are advancing in age, but
 not getting old and decrepit. There is still much that they can do and
 contribute."

 •Employment. The new elderly will be more independent than their predecessors.
 Along with that independence is the potential for longer and healthier lives,
 raising the possibility of longer and varied employment. Many researchers
 conclude that it would be far better for economic health if older people went on
 working instead of retiring. That raises some questions, Hudson says .

 "Do people in their 60s want to keep working?" Hudson says. "Do the 20- to
 30-year-olds want them working and not taking Social Security -- or not working
 to free up jobs?"

 According to The Economist two-thirds of retirees say they like being retired
 and have no desire to go back to work. But in that same issue they report: "In
 America, where jobs for older workers are plentiful and the government is
 scrapping the tax disincentives for older folk to work, early retirement has
 begun to fall. Give people a choice, and they might surprise you."

 "We can ditch the idea of older people opting out of the work force," says
 Michael Reinemer, director of communications for the National Council on Aging.
 "Of course, those who work manual labor may exhaust themselves by a traditional
 age and need to retire. But it's in the interest of employers and the economy
 for the elderly to work."

 Hudson agrees, saying the new elderly will be broken into two likely groups, the
 

Re: [CTRL] Education Meltdown

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426

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What we have is a Hegelian system of education where the child is conditioned
to become subordinate to the State.( Hegels"march of God on earth").
John Dewey the NEA darling was pure Hegelian and designed the system where
the state is absolute and Schools of Education reflect this in training
teachers..

In my AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT I trace how this system developed by
Wundt in Germany was deliberately introduced into the United States throuhg
the Schools of Education well over 100 years ago

Want to change this system?  You have to remove the Schools of Education
first.  No good blaming the teachers.  They have been conditioned too.


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Re: [CTRL] FW: Oral Sex In Middle Schools ...

1999-09-12 Thread pennie hammons

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I agree with both of you. I can't imagine letting a virtual stranger teach
my children. Especially when we know that a lot of teachers have ulterior
motives for how they teach. My children are not yet old enough to go to
school, but I already know that I will homeschool them. My four-year old
knows math better than any 3rd-grader, and knows his way around a computer
better that I do. His pure, eager-to-learn mind is something I will not
allow to be perverted by our "schools". How far we have fallen when we have
to say such things about our childrens' learning facilities!

From: Eagle 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] FW: Oral Sex In Middle Schools ...
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:00:56 -0500

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Hi Bob,
You have a very good point... when you said,
 .  Unfortunately many parents do not have enough time  to spend with
their
children because they both have to work to make a living.

It still,  however,  boils down to 'parental irresponsibility',  even with
the NEA being a main factor of perversion in the public school system.
(Run
by the string pulling secret societies,  such as the one who lays claim to
the scottish bretheren).  If parental REsponsibilty had been with a good
foothold 30 years ago,  you would not have seen the acceleration of the
NEA's agenda to stupify the generations since the early 60's and even
before.

I remain firm with the fact that if you can't "afford" the children,
(here,
I am not talking dollars),  then parent(s) shouldn't have had them.  This
includes taking responsibility from the moment the parents said "I do",
whether getting married or whether having consentual sex.  Parental
responsibility comes BEFORE the child is ever thought about.  Earning a
living and 'keeping up with the Joneses', is more important that what's
being fed into our children's minds,  I suppose.   ???  Or maybe it's just
too much trouble for some to lay time aside to find out what's really going
on in the school system, and they in effect,  willingly hand over their
parental rights to teachers that they probably don't know diddly about,
never have met them,  nor do they have a clue what these teachers
background
histories contain.  But that's okay,  in this generation,  I suppose.  ???

In this world of  "I have to have it all",  and "I have to have it all
right
now",  leaves little room for thoughtful consideration of what
responsibilites there are with raising children...  ???   I suppose so,  in
this generation.  And then there are considerations,  such as,  'Who ever
dreamed that there would be such massive communications,  and PC's in
nearly
every home?'  Or who ever thought of lap tops on every desk at school?'
Probably no one 10 - 20 years ago... Daniel does make mention of this
generation... over 2,000 years ago,  see Daniel 12,  particularly verse 4.

Compromises are usually always an option in life.  However,  compromising
parental authority and responsibility should have never been an option.  As
they say...  "Hindsight is always 20 / 20."   Now,  we shall reap the
whirlwind of the generations who were dumbed down.  What do you suppose
they
will do with anyone over the age of 40 in the near future with innovative
ideas to cut back on government spending,  and what they may consider a
waste of time,  and waste of perfectly good occupational space?  Hm?
Makes one think a bit,  doesn't it?

This age of information and convenience has it's price.

eagle 1


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  In a message dated 99-09-11 21:24:52 EDT, Eagle 1 writes:
 
   TRY THE NEA!!!  THIS IS YOUR CULPRIT. 
 
   Television and movies contribute, but you are correct about the NEA
and
  their "education" agenda.  Unfortunately many parents do not have enough
time
  to spend with their children because they both have to work to make a
living.
   Children are indoctrinated with the "Political Correct" agenda at an
early
  age.  Call it whatever you want, Socialism or Nazism, Hitler started
  indoctrinating the youth of Germany to the point where they would "rat"
on
  their own parents.  When I was growing up there were few teachers I
could
  respect, but I never found any of my children's teachers to be deserving
of
  respect.
 
  Regards,
  Bob Stokes

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[CTRL] (Fwd) Fwd: TERMINATOR ALERT

1999-09-12 Thread K

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 Begin Forwarded Message 
Date:9/11/99 7:00 AM
Received:9/11/99 3:23 PM
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PLEASE COPY AND DISTRIBUTE TO YOUR NETWORKS

 URGENT ACTION NEEDED

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IS AT IT  AGAIN!!
AGENCY CONTINUES TO FUND TERMINATOR TECHNOLOGY

TELL USDA TO STOP ITS ONGOING SUPPORT OF NEW RESEARCH ON
TERMINATOR/TRAITOR TECHNOLOGIES.
USE PUBLIC DOLLARS FOR PUBLIC SECTOR RESEARCH

Despite widespread opposition to USDA's involvement with Terminator
technology, the agency continues to use taxpayer dollars to support
genetic seed sterilization.  Controversy over the Terminator
technology has generated an avalanche of public opposition. USDA is
blatantly ignoring the public outcry. A new patent reveals that USDA
funding supports additional Terminator research at Purdue University
(Indiana).

WRITE, PHONE, OR FAX  SECRETARY DAN GLICKMAN
USDA, 200A Whitten Bldg., 1400 Independence Ave., SW. Washington, DC
20250 Phone: 202-720-3631; Fax: 202-720-2166

Tell him to stop using USDA=92s scarce public research dollars to
pursue a dangerous, antifarmer technology that threatens
biodiversity.  Tell him that USDA must:

**  Abandon all research on genetic seed sterilization.
**  Develop a policy prohibiting the use of public research dollars
on Terminator technologies **  Use public research dollars to support
plant breeding for sustainable agriculture


Terminator is a controversial technology that has generated
worldwide protest and debate because it renders farm saved seed
sterile forcing farmers to return to the commercial seed market every
year.   If commercialized, it will threaten global food security and
endanger biodiversity. The original Terminator patent is jointly
owned by the US Department of Agriculture and a Monsanto subsidiary,
Delta  Pine Land Co.

The notorious Terminator patent is just the tip of the
iceberg.
There are dozens of new patents describing a wide range of techniques
that can be used for the genetic sterilization of plants and seeds.
Every major seed and agrochemical enterprise is developing its own
version of suicide seeds.  These technologies are extremely dangerous
because they will erode farmer control and decision making in
agriculture and increase dependence on a handful of giant
agrochemical corporations. Over 1.4 billion people, primarily poor
farmers in Africa, Asia, and Latin America depend on farmsaved seed
as their primary seed source. If they can't save seed, they can't
continue to adapt crops to their unique farming environment.  The new
generation of patents goes beyond the genetic neutering of crops.
The patents reveal that multinational agrochemical and seed
corporations are developing suicide seeds whose genetic traits can be
turned on and off by an external chemical inducer triggered by the
company's patented agrochemicals. In the notsodistant future, we may
see farmers planting seeds that will develop into productive crops
only if sprayed with a carefully prescribed regimen that includes the
company's proprietary pesticide, fertilizer, or herbicide -- the
TRAITOR technologies.

With  Traitor technologies,  farmers will be forced to
surrender
control of their seed supply and the Gene Giants will ultimately
dictate what the farmer grows, how to grow it, and where to sell it.
Seed sterility is not about insuring quality of productivity, it's a
power grab pure and simple, and tax dollars should not go to support
the development of these technologies.

For detailed analyses of Terminator and Traitor technologies, see
websites: http://www.rafi.org/www.rafi.org 
http://www.ucsusa.org/www.ucsusa.org


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Sample letter to protest the Terminator Technology:

Please copy this letter to your representatives in Congress.

Secretary Dan Glickman
USDA
200-A Whitten Bldg.
1400 Independence Ave., SW
Washington, DC 20250
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fax: (202) 720-3631

Dear Secretary Glickman:

I oppose the use of taxpayer money to develop Terminator technology
a genetic technology that renders farm-saved seed sterile. I urgently
call on USDA to adopt a policy that will prevent the use of public
funds (either through grants or in-house research) to support genetic
seed sterilization.

I am writing to ask that the USDA immediately cease negotiations to
license the Terminator technology to a Monsanto subsidiary (Delta and
Pine Land Co.).  I urge the USDA to abandon its worldwide patent
applications on this immoral and dangerous technology.

The Terminator technology is a dead-end for farmers and a threat to
food security worldwide. I respectfully urge you to stop funding
Terminator technology and cease negotiations for its commercial

[CTRL] US Complicity in Timor

1999-09-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 http://www.thenation.com/issue/990927/0927nairn.shtml



 September 7, 1999

 US Complicity in Timor

 Click here for background and related information.

 E-mail this story to a friend.

 Click here for a press release for this story.

 While the Indonesian military's thugs continue their rampage in
East Timor, most foreign reporters have fled the
 country. As of September 7, frequent Nation contributor and
award-winning journalist Allan Nairn was believed to be
 the only US reporter still there. Nairn left the besieged UN
compound and walked the streets of Dili, where he hid in
 abandoned houses as he observed troops and militia burning and
looting. Nairn has been writing about the troubles
 there for years. In 1991, after being badly beaten by Indonesian
troops while witnessing the massacre of several hundred
 East Timorese, he was declared a "threat to national security" and
banned from the country. He has entered several
 times illegally since then. In his most recent Nation dispatch from
East Timor, on March 30, 1998, Nairn disclosed the
 continuing US military training of Indonesian troops implicated in
the torture and killing of civilians. He filed this
 report by satellite telephone to The Nation through Amy Goodman,
host of Pacifica Radio's Democracy Now!

 --The Editors



 Dili, East Timor

 It is by now clear to most East Timorese and a few Westerners still
left here that the militias are a wing of the TNI/ABRI,
 the Indonesian armed forces. Recently, for example, I was picked up
by militiamen who turned out to be working for a
 uniformed colonel of the National Police. [Editors' note: The
Indonesian government has denied any connection between
 the militias and either the police or the military.] But there is
another important political fact that is not known here or in the
 international community. Although the US government has publicly
reprimanded the Indonesian Army for the militias, the
 US military has, behind the scenes and contrary to Congressional
intent, been backing the TNI.

 US officials say that this past April, as militia terror escalated,
a top US officer was dispatched to give a message to Jakarta.
 Adm. Dennis Blair, the US Commander in Chief of the Pacific, leader
of all US military forces in the Pacific region, was sent
 to meet with General Wiranto, the Indonesian armed forces
commander, on April 8. Blair's mission, as one senior US official
 told me, was to tell Wiranto that the time had come to shut the
militia operation down. The gravity of the meeting was
 heightened by the fact that two days before, the militias had
committed a horrific machete massacre at the Catholic church
 in Liquiça, Timor. YAYASAN HAK, a Timorese human rights group,
estimated that many dozens of civilians were
 murdered. Some of the victims' flesh was reportedly stuck to the
walls of the church and a pastor's house. But Admiral
 Blair, fully briefed on Liquiça, quickly made clear at the meeting
with Wiranto that he was there to reassure the TNI chief.
 According to a classified cable on the meeting, circulating at
Pacific Command headquarters in Hawaii, Blair, rather than
 telling Wiranto to shut the militias down, instead offered him a
series of promises of new US assistance.

 According to the cable, which was drafted by Col. Joseph Daves, US
military attaché in Jakarta, Admiral Blair "told the
 armed forces chief that he looks forward to the time when [the army
will] resume its proper role as a leader in the region. He
 invited General Wiranto to come to Hawaii as his guest in
conjunction with the next round of bilateral defense discussions
 in the July-August '99 time frame. He said Pacific command is
prepared to support a subject matter expert exchange for
 doctrinal development. He expects that approval will be granted to
send a small team to provide technical assistance to
 police and...selected TNI personnel on crowd control measures."

 Admiral Blair at no point told Wiranto to stop the militia
operation, going the other way by inviting him to be his personal
 guest in Hawaii. Blair told Wiranto that the United States would
initiate this new riot-control training for the Indonesian
 armed forces. This was quite significant, because it would be the
first new US training program for the Indonesian military
 since 1992. Although State Department officials had been assured in
writing that only police and no soldiers would be part
 of this training, Blair told Wiranto that, yes, soldiers could be
included. So although Blair was sent in with the mission of
 telling Wiranto to shut the militias down, he did the opposite.

 Indonesian officers I spoke to said Wiranto was delighted by the
meeting. They took this as a green light to proceed with
 the militia operation. The only reference in 

[CTRL] Yeltsin Linked To Bribe Scheme

1999-09-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject: Yeltsin Linked To Bribe Scheme


Yeltsin Linked To Bribe Scheme
 Swiss Probe Finds Firm Made Payoffs To President,
Other Russian
 Officials

  By Sharon LaFraniere
  Washington Post Foreign Service
  Wednesday, September 8, 1999; Page A01

  GENEVA, Sept. 7—A Swiss investigation has uncovered
construction company that received major Kremlin
contracts paid tens of thousands
of dollars in bills on credit cards in the names of
President Boris Yeltin and his two
daughters, according to law enforcement authorities.

The contractor, a Swiss firm called Mabetex, also
provided $1 million that was
transferred to a Hungarian bank account several years
ago for Yeltsin's benefit, the
 authorities said.

In all, Mabetex made between $10 million and $15
million in payoffs to high-ranking
 Russian officials, including Yeltsin, and their
families, according to one official
familiar with the inquiry.

The investigation has been in and out of the news for
more than a year, but the size
 of the alleged payoffs to Yeltsin and his family was
not previously disclosed. A
 spate of allegations in recent weeks of high-level
Russian financial corruption has
 caused political storms in Russia and the United
States. In a separate
money-laundering inquiry, revealed last month, U.S.
prosecutors are investigating
billions of dollars that flowed from Russia through
accounts at Bank of New York.

Mabetex's top official, Behgjet Pacolli, has denied
paying any bribes. Yeltsin's press
 spokesman also said neither the president nor his
family engaged in any wrongdoing.

The investigation into Mabetex has been overseen in
Bern by Swiss prosecutor Carla del Ponte, who is resigning next week to
become
the new U.N. war crimes prosecutor in The Hague.

 The Swiss have been aggressively pursuing a
money-laundering case against Pavel
Borodin, the Russian official who managed Mabetex's
Kremlin contracts and has
denied any wrongdoing. Investigators have determined
that Mabetex set up bank
 accounts for Borodin's benefit in the Swiss cities of
Lugano and Geneva.

 But the Swiss money-laundering inquiry can bear fruit
only if Russian officials
 prosecute Borodin for corruption. The Swiss are
relying on the Russians to show
that the money that went to Borodin's accounts came
from improper sources.

 "The Russians have the main investigation," Del Ponte
said in an interview today.
"We hope they can go on and complete it."

However, there is a widespread perception in Moscow
that Yeltsin's government is
 impeding the Russian side of the investigation.
Earlier this year, Yeltsin suspended
 chief Russian prosecutor Yuri Skuratov, who was
investigating the case. The
suspension came just a few days after Del Ponte
described the links between
Mabetex and Yeltsin in a telephone conversation with
Skuratov, according to knowledgeable sources.

 The Mabetex probe has also been slowed by the recent
transfer of the principal
Russian investigator on the case.

 Swiss investigators uncovered the credit cards issued
to Yeltsin and his two
daughters while looking for payments from Mabetex to
Borodin, officials said.
Mabetex's records showed the company made regular
credit card payments over two
to three years to a Swiss bank. Investigators later
determined the cards had been for
Yeltsin and his daughters, the officials said. It is
not clear what the credit cards were
 used to purchase.

 In Moscow, suspended prosecutor Skuratov said that
he'd been told by Swiss
 authorities that Mabetex spent a total of 15 million
Swiss francs (about $10 million)
 on bribes to high-ranking officials, including
Yeltsin, and their families.

In an interview with the newspaper Versia, Skuratov
called for a full investigation
 and raised anew the question of credit cards allegedly
given to Yeltsin and his
 daughters by Mabetex president Pacolli.

 In a separate television interview tonight, Skuratov
said he was told in March by the
 Swiss investigators that Pacolli's bank accounts were
used to "fill the credit cards of
Yelena Okulova, Tatyana Dyachenko and Boris
Nikolayevich [Yeltsin] himself."
Okulova and Dyachenko are Yeltsin's daughters;
Dyachenko is a Kremlin aide.

He said the Swiss prosecutor, del Ponte, "gave this
figure, which in their opinion
 was the money spent by Mr. Pacolli to bribe the
Russian officials."

 In Washington, three senior U.S. officials briefed a
handful of reporters today on
 how and when they learned of the separate Bank of New
York probe, saying that
they knew few details until the case became public
last month.

 The State Department first heard about the movement of
huge amounts of money from Russia to the Bank of New York in March,
officials said. Authorities in another
   country brought the case to their attention and
suggested that Russian organized crime might be involved. At the time,
there was no
suggestion that any U.S. or 

[CTRL] Kansas battle over evolution lingers on (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Kansas battle over evolution in schools lingers on

By Carey Gillam


OVERLAND PARK, Kan., Sept 11 (Reuters) - A month has passed since
the Kansas Board of Education voted to remove evolution as a key
concept in the state's science curriculum, but the issue still
touches raw nerves for people on both sides of the debate.

The Kansas Board of Education on Aug. 11 voted 6-4 to embrace new
standards for science teaching in public schools that eliminate
evolution as an underlying principle of biology and other
sciences.

``This issue is not going away,'' said board member William
Wagnon, one of the four who voted against the new science
standards. ``It is a live issue.  The long-term consequences of
this are phenomenal. If not corrected, it will undermine a very
fine public education system.''

Kansas Board of Education Chairwoman Linda Holloway, who voted in
favour of eliminating evolution teaching, said she stopped
reading her e-mails after hundreds of what she described as
insult-laden messages from around the country filled her home
computer. She said her husband was worried about threats of
violence.

If not for the board's action rewriting the state's science
standards, evolution would be given too much credence in the
classroom, Holloway said.

``I would do it again,'' she added.

With children settling in for the new school year in communities
across Kansas, many of the state's school district leaders and
teachers have pledged to continue to teach evolution as they have
in the past.

The Kansas science curriculum standards set out guidelines for
instruction and dictate what will appear on state tests. But
decisions about day-to-day instruction remain in local hands.

Some districts are mulling changes. The district in Pratt,
Kansas, for instance, is considering including a book questioning
evolution's validity in supplemental reading for science classes.
Pratt district superintendent Ken Kennedy said a group of parents
proposed the book, adding that the timing of the move was merely
coincidental to the board vote.

Some state legislators are calling for a law mandating the
teaching of evolution, as well as a measure that would reduce the
power of the state's board of education. A group of moderate
Republicans have also announced plans to target fellow Republican
Holloway for defeat in elections next year.

Additionally, the chancellor of the University of Kansas last
week announced the formation of a task force on scientific
literacy in education.

The theory of evolution holds that over millions of years humans
and other life forms evolved from earlier life forms.

Religious conservatives in Kansas and elsewhere are looking anew
at science instruction in their local schools and dissecting the
ways in which evolution instruction does or does not align with
what they see as church teachings about the creation of man and
the universe.

Mary Kay Culp, an official with the Kansas Catholic Conference,
said she was pleased with the de-emphasis of evolution, but said
the new standards did not go far enough in purging evolution
teaching from classrooms.

On the other side of the issue, the American Civil Liberties
Union of Kansas and Western Missouri has mailed letters to every
school district in Kansas threatening legal action at the first
hint of unconstitutional religious intrusion into public schools.

Earlier this week, two community organisations made moves at
finding a middle ground. At their invitation, National Centre for
Science Education Executive Director Eugenie Scott discussed
evolution and creationism in presentations held in a Lawrence,
Kansas, church and a Jewish community centre in Overland Park,
Kansas.

Scott said people did not necessarily have to choose between
evolution and creationism.

``Many people think that evolution is the way God brought about
life,'' she said.

But Scott argued that downplaying evolution in the state's
science curriculum standards was wrong.

``I'm sure in school districts around the state, less evolution
will be taught, and that will be a disservice to students when
they go on to college,'' Scott said.

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[CTRL] From Heads Up 9-12-99 (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Heads Up

A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia

September 12, 1999   #151

by:  Doug Fiedor[EMAIL PROTECTED]

EXERPT:

A RIGHT TO BE LET ALONE AT HOME

Except in an emergency, it is a violation of civil rights
for government agents to enter a home without a search warrant
when not invited in.  So says at least one U.S. Court of Appeals.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals case, Calabretta v.
Floyd (9715385), "involves whether a social worker and a police
officer were entitled to qualified immunity, for a coerced entry
into a home to investigate suspected child abuse, interrogation
of a child, and strip search of a child, conducted without a
search warrant and without a special exigency."

The facts of the case are simple:  Some neighbor called
Social Services with a complaint that they heard the Calabretta's
youngest child crying something like "No, no, no daddy" one
night.  Evidently, that's all it takes in California.

The social worker, Floyd, went to the home to investigate
but, as was her right, Mrs. Calabretta would not allow Floyd in.
So, Floyd went to the office and made a report.  Then, Floyd went
on a two week vacation.

Somewhere along the line, Floyd learned that the
Calabrettas were a very religious family and home schooled their
children.  That being a red flag in the face of government social
workers and teachers, Floyd called for police assistance in
visiting the family.  And, this is where things get a little
uncomfortable:

Many police officers follow the law and would not enter
the Calabretta's home without either being invited in or having a
warrant.  Some police officers will bully their way in, via
intimidation.  Others will do anything it takes, including
shooting, to get in.  This police officer used intimidation.

Well, social worker and police officer claimed they have
something called "qualified immunity" for what they did and
therefore are protected against any civil or criminal action --
even though they obviously violated the Calabretta's Fourth
Amendment rights.  Their theory was that an administrative search
to protect the welfare of children does not carry the requirement
that they first secure a warrant.  The Court, however, did not
agree. And now things get very interesting.

The court said that "the facts in this case are
noteworthy for the absence of emergency."  No one was in
distress.  "The police officer was there to back up the social
worker's insistence on entry against the mother's will, not
because he perceived any imminent danger of harm." And he should
have known better.  Furthermore, "had the information been more
alarming, had the social worker or police officer been alarmed,
had there been reason to fear imminent harm to a child, this
would be a different case, one to which we have no occasion to
speak.  A reasonable official would understand that they could
not enter the home without consent or a search warrant."

And now the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals defines the law:

"In our circuit, a reasonable official would have known
that the law barred this entry.  Any government official can be
held to know that their office does not give them an unrestricted
right to enter peoples' homes at will. We held in White v. Pierce
County (797 F.2d 812 (9th Cir. 1986)), a child welfare
investigation case, that 'it was settled constitutional law that,
absent exigent circumstances, police could not enter a dwelling
without a warrant even under statutory authority where probable
cause existed.' The principle that government officials cannot
coerce entry into people's houses without a search warrant or
applicability of an established exception to the requirement of a
search warrant is so well established that any reasonable officer
would know it.  Under White, appellants' claim, that 'a search
warrant is not required for home investigatory visits by social
workers,' is simply not the law."

The Court continues later:

"The Fourth Amendment preserves the 'right of the people
to be secure in their persons, houses . . . .' without limiting
that right to one kind of government official.  It is not as
though all reasonable people thought any government official
could enter private houses against the occupants' will, without
search warrant or special exigency, and then White said that
police officers could not, without speaking about social workers.
Rather, everyone knew that the government could not so enter
houses, and White said that principle was well established, in
the context of a child abuse investigation."

And there we have it:  "Any government official can be
held to know that their office does not give them an unrestricted
right to enter peoples' homes at will.  The principle that
government officials cannot coerce entry into people's houses
without a search warrant or applicability of an established
exception to the requirement of a 

[CTRL] Former Spy Says Russia Buried Explosives In U.S. (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.foxnews.com/nav/js_stage_foxwire.sml?content=/news/wires2/0911/n_rt_0
911_233.sml

Former Spy Says Russia Buried Explosives In U.S.

1.41 p.m. ET (1744 GMT) September 11, 1999

NEW YORK — Soviet spies buried explosives across the United
States and Europe as part of a Cold War sabotage campaign that
identified power stations, fuel pipelines and other
infrastructure sites, a former KGB official says.

The revelations are included in a new book co-authored by
ex-Soviet spymaster Vasili Mitrokhin and discussed in an
interview he gave to the British Broadcasting Corp. (BBC),
excerpts of which will be broadcast Sunday by the CBS News
program "60 Minutes.''

Mitrokhin, whose disclosure about Briton Melita Norwood's nuclear
espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union made headlines Saturday,
says that for years he copied top-secret documents by hand and
smuggled them from Russian intelligence headquarters, sometimes
in his shoes, and hid some of them in a mattress.

He wrote "Sword and the Shield: Secret History of the KGB'' with
British academic Christopher Andrew, who spoke with "60 Minutes''
about Mitrokhin's note-taking and smuggling activities over a
12-year period that began in the early 1970s when he was put in
charge of moving the KGB archives to a new site.

Mitrokhin, now 77 and living as a British citizen under an
assumed name, was motivated by apparent disillusionment over
Soviet crackdowns on dissidents.

"I wanted to show the efforts, the tremendous efforts of this
machine of evil,'' Mitrokhin told the BBC. "And I wanted to
demonstrate what happens when the foundations of conscience are
trampled over and when other moral principles are forgotten. I
regarded this as my duty as a Russian patriot.''

Mitrokhin divulges a trove of information about KGB efforts in
the United States, including an aggressive disinformation attempt
to pin the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on the
Central Intelligence Agency.

But a major disclosure involves Mitrokhin's claim that Soviet
spies surveyed hundreds of potential sabotage sites in the United
States and Western Europe in the 1960s and 1970s. ''As part of
that,'' according to "60 Minutes'' "they buried booby trapped
arms caches near some of the targets.'' The explosives presumably
are still there.

In the United States, the KGB sabotage plan covered areas across
the country. One of the first targets identified by the KGB was
an oil pipeline running from El Paso, Texas, to Costa Mesa,
California. The Hungry Horse Dam in Montana also was on the list
as was a "tremendously elaborate system'' for knocking out
electrical power to New York state, "60 Minutes'' reports.

Mitrokhin's files, said "60 Minutes,'' did not "spell out'' how
many explosives were buried in the United States or their exact
locations, but Andrew says in his U.S. TV interview that the
Kremlin knows where they are.

In Europe, Andrew said one of the sabotage sites was ''checked
out'' in Switzerland. Mitrokhin's directions were followed
"precisely'' and when investigators began to dig, they uncovered
something dangerous. "They turned a fire hose (on the site) and
it exploded,'' he said.


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[CTRL] The Beginning Of The Gunfight At Waco (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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The Beginning Of The Gunfight At Waco

It's On The Tape!

One of the key questions regarding the Waco tragedy is, "who
fired the first shot"?

If the Davidians surprised the ATF by firing through the closed
front door as the ATF claims, then the picture of the Davidians
as crazed, gun toting killers itching for a gunfight with the
feds would have some support.

On the other hand, if the ATF agents were the first to fire, then
government claims that the ATF agents were "ambushed" would be
shown to be yet another lie, and the returned fire by the
Davidians would be legal self defense.

On April 13, 1993, six days before the Davidian complex was
consumed by fire, David Koresh talked to the FBI and the FBI
recorded the conversation.

During the conversation an FBI negotiator asks Koresh how it came
to pass that the ATF "got their asses all shot up like that?".
This prompts Koresh to recount the beginning of the gunfight.

An audio version of the conversation can be found on this page
http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/audiotapes/index.htm -- via
the link at the bottom of the page, labeled "David Koresh/FBI,
April 13, 1993 (207k)".

You will need RealPlayer which can be downloaded here
http://www.realaudio.com/.

A transcript of the part of the conversation dealing with the
beginning of teh gunfight at Waco follows (it starts about 2:07
into the recording referenced above)

As you listen to or read the transcript of the conversation, keep
in mind that Koresh would have no knowledge that the tape he saw
the ATF making would be lost[1].


 . . .

 FBI:

  How come if you knew they were comin' you didn't just
  come out and meet 'em

 Koresh:

  I did! I did! I did!  It's on the tape! Look at the
  tape!

 FBI:

  How come they got their asses all shot up like that?

 Koresh:

  Huh?

 FBI:

  How come they got their asses all shot up like that?

 Koresh:

  Well Look at the tape!  I came out on the on the front
  porch  …

 FBI:

  Why … I mean where did all that … where did all that
  frickin' gunpower come from?

 Koresh:

  Gerald, you know, you've seen the tapes.  Be honest
  now.  Be Honest!

  Here I am ….

 FBI:

  You're gotta help me out cause I came in here just a
  couple of weeks ago

 Koresh:

  Well, John, ask to review those first tapes.

 FBI:

  Alright

 Koresh:

  Ok -- Here I am at the front door totally unarmed, my
  my my feet out on the front porch the the door in my
  left hand (unintelligible) behind me, my right hand up
  and the exact words that I hollered out as they were
  all blowin' out of the back of the trailer … my my
  exact words were, you know "Get back! There's women and
  children here! Let's talk about this!"

  And all of a sudden they were comin' around you know …
  that that shot was fired and it was right here in the
  door in the very angle where I was, and the door kicked
  . . . and at that point there, you know ah ah  … its
  all on tape I know you all got that tape, because I saw
  the guys right across the street when I was on the
  front porch, over there taping it!

---

1: David Hardy is a Tucson lawyer that has filed a number of
Freedom Of Information actions regarding the Waco matter.  One of
Hardy's more interesting findings is that, according to the ATF,
all of their photographic evidence is missing. Here is how ATF
describes the missing photographic evidence (see this page):

 The "official" videocam, set up to film the operation,
 mysteriously ejected its tapes rather than recording them. The
 agency attributes this to radio interference from nearby
 transmitters. (Strange, since video remote controls work on
 infrared, not radio, signals. Just as strange, the agency admits
 that when it attempted to duplicate the occurence, it was unable
 to make it happen.).

 That wasn't the only "official" videocam filming the front of
 the building during the raid. There was another, mounted on a
 tripod beside the communications van. And another at a sniper
 position. And still another (although this may overlap with one
 of the first two) filming from an "elevated position."
 Mysteriously, none of these videotapes can be found. And the
 agency officials who saw them in the past say that every single
 camera malfunctioned in the seconds before the raid. (Quality
 control isn't what it used to be apparently.). The only clue was
 that these videos may have been given to the Texas Rangers. But
 when I asked for copies from the Rangers, they replied that the
 videos were in Rangers' possession, but not in their control.
 

[CTRL] blue beam - Detail Exposed Part 1 (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 16:35:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Operation Blue Beam - Detail Exposed Part 1

(sent to USCMike1's 32,809+ readers - Please repost to you own
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  Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:

  Please read this incredible tale of apparations and modulated
microwave images and sounds and voices directed into your brain,
I was told today by those in the know that holographic images of
tanks and war machinery were projected over the desert to the
Iraqis to scare them into submission during Desert Storm.  Looks
like it worked quite effectively.

   So there are two separate weapons. One projects images in the
air while the other projects images into your mind.  Every wonder
why Buford Morrow the day care center killer checked himself into
a psych-hospital prior to going on his rampage and claimed that
he heard voices telling him to kill people.  They would not
listen to him.

USCMike1

NASA PROJECT BLUE BEAM

This is from the International Free Press in Canada.

The International Free Press network is not a religious group,
neither is it a political organization, but an independent
worldwide investigation press agency in the field of politics,
economics, medical and military.

We specialize in investigating and publishing special reports and
audio tapes to expose the underworld of the United Nations
conspiracy to implement a New World Order.

Our task is to make the people realize that the agenda of the New
World Order is not a dream or some wild, paranoid theory; it is a
real on-going Satanic project.

For what?

To abolish all Christian traditional religions in order to
replace them with a one world religion based on the cult of man.
To abolish all national identity and national pride in order to
establish a world identity and a world pride.

To abolish the family as known today in order to replace them
with individuals all working for the glory of the new one world
government.

To destroy all individual artistic and scientific creativity to
implement a one world government one-mind sight.

And that kind of declaration of war from the United Nations is
for the implementation of a universal, obligatory membership to
the United Nations, a strengthening of the UN by a multi-military
and multi-police force, a world-wide justice department through
the UN with an international tribunal, a worldwide new trade
agreement for all nations, the end of cold war and local wars as
they are today, and the obligation for peace by scrapping all
national and state constitutions.

Also, a new world religion and a new culture for all men.

If we really wish to understand the NASA Blue Beam Project, we
have to return to the "dawning of the age of Aquarius." Remember
that song? That song said, "When the moon is in the seventh house
and Jupiter aligned with Mars, then peace will guide our planet
and love will steer the stars."

This related with the year 1982 to be, at that time, the opening
for the conspiracy of the age of Aquarius, just before the
implementation of the new world order, supposed to begin sometime
in 1983.

I have to say that the Blue Beam Project was set up for the year
1983. It has been delayed; we don't know exactly why. But, since
1983 (eleven years before the publication of this report), they
have really improved themselves with new technology and
innovations in space hardware and software in which they are
involved right now to make their systems possible.

So, the goals of the new age movement under which the United
Nations operates right now, are the implementation of a new world
"messiah."

The tools of the new world order are, 1. an international army;
2. an international police force; 3. a world bank for the
economy; 4. a world government under the United Nations; 5. a
world conservatory bank for wilderness preservation around the
world. That means all "green" movements will be melded into the
new international bank or disappear altogether; 6. a world
religion where all church doctrines will be destroyed at the
roots to be replaced by the new world religion of the age of
Aquarius; 7. the world seven-races classification for all human
slaves who will fulfill predetermined work tasks whether they
agree with it or not; 8. the world concentration headquarters at
the United Nations for those who will not accept the new system;
9. the world agriculture and food supply control which will
control food and vitamin supplies around the world.

The new world order will be an "in-between" government system for
USSR, Great Britian and all its commonwealths, and the United
States with its melting-pot population.

This is, at the end, a new spiritual and political world order
which will replace the old ones under which we live right now.

What are the new world order plans?

They plan on the destruction of all people who believe in the
Bible or worship Jesus 

[CTRL] blue beam - Details Exposed Part 2 (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 16:37:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Operation Blue Beam - Details Exposed Part 2

Here is the second part of the explanation of Operation Blue Beam



Allen Frie also reports that he could speed up, slow down or stop
the hearts of isolated frogs by synchronizing the pulsed rate of
a microwave beam with the heart itself.

According to Robert Baker, similar results have been obtained
using live frogs, which shows that it is technically feasible to
produce heart attacks with rays designed to penetrate the human
chest.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Both the author of this report and his colleague
died of "heart attacks" only days apart one in Canada and the
other while visiting Ireland. Neither had a history of heart
problems.

I should mention also that Dr. Baker does NOT participate in such
research.

It has been demonstrated that focused ultra high frequency UHF
electromagnetic energy beams can be used to induce considerable
agitation and muscular activity or induce muscular weakness and
lethargy.

Microwaves can also be used to burn human skin and aid the effect
of drugs, bacteria and poisons or affect the function of the
entire brain. These effects were all revealed at length by the
CIA on September 21, 1977 in testimony before the Subcommittee on
Health and Scientific Research. Dr.  Sidney Gottlieb sp. who
directed the MK-Ultra program at that time was forced to
discussed the scope of the CIA's research to find techniques of
activation of the human organism by remote electronic means.

So this is something that exists right now, that has been pursued
to its highest degree, that can be used from space to reach any
person, anyplace on the face of the earth.

If we go deeper in that process of mind control over the people
we find that the equipment and technology has been used to
influence politics in a much more direct fashion.

Michael Dukakis, the Democrat candidate running against George
Bush in the 1988 election was targeted with microwave technology
in order to impede his public speaking performance once the the
public opinion polls showed he posed a serious threat to Bush's
election prospects.

He also claims that the equipment was used against Kitty Dukakis
and drove her to the brink of suicide.

In the Disneyland world of U. S. politics, a presidential
candidate with problems such as these, would obviously lose their
race to the White House.

In the December 1980 edition of the U. S. Army Journal, called
the Military Review, a column by Lt. Col John B. Alexander,
entitled, "The New Mental Battlefield: Beam Me Up, Spock,"
provides further insight into the technical capabilities at the
disposal of the comptroller. He writes, "Several examples will
demonstrate areas in which progress have been made. The
transferrence of energy from one organism to another; the ability
to heal or cause disease to be transmitted over a distance, thus
inducing illness or death from no apparent cause; telepathic
behavior modification which includes the ability to induce
hypnotic states up to a distance of 1,000 kilometers have been
reported. The use of telepathic hypnosis also holds great
potential. This capability could allow agents to be deeply
planted with no conscious knowledge of their programming. In
movie terms, the Manchurian Candidate lives, and does not even
require a telephone call.

"Other mind-to-mind induction techniques are being considered. If
perfected this capability could allow the direct transferrence of
thought via telepathy from one mind or group of minds to a select
target audience. The unique factor is that the recipient will not
be aware that thought has been implanted from an external source.
He or she will believe the thoughts are original."

This is exactly what we were talking about.

The third step in the NASA Blue Beam Project is called the
Telepathic Electronic Two-Way Communication. Lt. Col Alexander's
article continues: "If it is possible to feed artificial thought
into the multigenic field via satellite, the mind control of the
entire planet is now possible. An individual's only resistance
would be to constantly question the motivation behind their
thoughts and not act upon thoughts which they consider to be
outside their own ideological, religious and moral boundaries."

Once again, it is wise to consider how television, advertising,
modern education and various types of social pressure are used to
manipulate those boundaries.

It has been reported by Lt. Col Alexander who said, in the
summary of his Military Review article, "The information on those
kinds of technologies presented here would be considered by some
to be ridiculous since it does not conform to their view of
reality. But some people still believe the world is flat."

Now, this means a lot, because if people do not believe this kind
of technology is possible, or that it is science fiction, those
people put 

[CTRL] Rainbow Family and Global Peace Walk2000 (response to Plunker's letter)

1999-09-12 Thread David Crockett Williams

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Howdy Plunker, Barry:

I am responding to your below letter emailed to me on 7Sept hoping you get
this before traveling to Portland, Oregon, for your September 15th
appearance at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals hearing on your two year
legal action against the US Forest Service to stop their illegal and
unconstitutional interference with the Rainbow Gatherings.

I hope your and others' efforts will avert the growing potential for a "Waco
type law
enforcement action" at any upcoming gatherings "of the people, by the
people, and for the people".   In case this email may be too late to reach
you in time I am copying it to others one of whom may be able to get it to
you.

I will be meditating on your work there as I prepare for my talks here
about the Capital Hills Research Center proposal on September 16th
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/chrc.html

The reason why I want you to have this response to take to share with the
folks on occasion of your court appearance is so you can clearly let them
know that the people are tired of such US government oppression all over the
world and we are going to do something about it this time in an effective
and nonviolent way by conducting the Global Peace Walk2000 from San
Francisco (January 15th) to Washington DC and the United Nations next year
to redress these grievances and to remedy them by demanding remedial
measures from every politician who wants to get elected next November by
gathering perhaps more than a million people together around the Washington
Monument on Comumbus Day, October 12, 2000, to dedicate it as a Peace Pole
(symbol of the message of peace) and offering a Global Peace Platform with a
great cry together to the heavens for "Global Peace Now!".
http://www.globalpeacenow.org

When people ask you who are the leaders of the Rainbow Family Global Peace
and Prayer Gatherings held July 4th each year to manifest one global family
of humankind living in peace and prosperity, perhaps you could consider the
answer offered by one of the coordinators of The Long Walk for Survival in
1980 to the swat team that came to their camp looking for Dennis Banks, "the
survivor is the leader".

One of the most amazing realizations about The Gatherings I have had since
attending my first one in New Mexico in 1977 is that they seem in fact to be
lead and guided by the spirit of love itself which many folks call God in
various names and forms.  Why else would so many hard working people go to
so much trouble and effort behind the scenes for no pay or recognition to
work all year from year to year to produce and staff a free gathering to
host the great unwashed of America? (in addition of course to the cool and
the hip and the fortunate who attend)   Truly if Jesus Christ were to return
and see a Rainbow Gathering, He would certainly say that at least some folks
understood what he was really talking about!

Aside from the comments on your letter/report interspersed below, what I
wanted to point out is that it is this same spirit which has initiated this
Global Peace Walk2000 for next year coming as a result of the call for such
a great first transcontinental peace march of the new millenium issue to the
International Nuclear Aboliton2000 Coalition by our dear Rainbow brother
Thomas (a legal liaison in Washington DC) of Proposition One
http://www.prop1.org , which now has a bill in Congress for everyone's
support to globally abolish nuclear weapons and instead fund human needs,
and this call has been taken up by another dear brother Rev. Yamato, who
first brought the Peace Pole Ceremony to the Rainbow Gatherings in 1978, to
continue the Global Peace Walk project he initiated with the walk from New
York to San Francisco in 1995 to bring out the prayer for "Global Peace
Now!" as a universal human resolve and to foster a worldwide Global Peace
Zone2000 for which we have already received numerous letters and
proclamations of support from community, religious, cultural and political
leaders including various city mayors most recently the Mayor of Rome, NY,
who presented his municipal Global Peace Zone proclamation to Rev. Yamato on
stage at the Woodstock '99 concert.
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/woodstock.html

As you know, it is not only the Rainbow Family Gatherings which are "under
siege" by the Federal Government, but also the sick and dying patients who
are restricted use of medical marijuana recently recognized as legitimate
medicine by the same government's Institute of Medicine, the black
populations of US inner cities who have been victimized and imprisoned as
targets of the drug war by the
police/military/industial/media/corporate/prison industial complex even with
the complicity of its own CIA as acknowledged by the CIA Inspector General's
report still being kept from public view by a Congressional committee barely
kept active by a small but growing public awareness http://www.copvcia.com ,
and most blatently of all the ongoing centuries 

Re: [CTRL] Smyrna

1999-09-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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You're right about the USAF enlisted having a hard time getting along.  Been
there; done that.  NATO is the usual military organization.  I was there when
Turkey was under martial law, but we were as happy with the martial law as
the Turks were.  It hadn't made life difficult for us, but if a Turk went to
the store to buy bread, no one knew if he would make it back alive.  Ecevet
and Demerol were doing their usual bombastic yada, and that general taking
over was the best thing that ever happened.  Where we were and while we were
there, the only times Americans had a real problem, it was discovered that
they were trying to date Turkish girls (It's not done that way over there) or
were buying or selling drugs.  You're right about them not putting anything
about that in the papers (ours at least).   I guess you can always find a
drug dealer (there or here) if you're looking.  Very few Turks seemed to use
drugs, but they certainly didn't mind making money off of anyone who did.  I
don't know how they felt about hashish.  It's been around the middle east and
used in the middle east for centuries.   Opium has always been grown there,
but no Turk I ever heard of was stupid enough to use it.  It was a cash crop,
sold to foreigners who apparently knew no better.  We probably paid more for
our apartment too, but then we had a lot more money.   I go along with you
regarding the electricity and heat.  It's not like the U.S.  We usually had
the electricity, but Turks aren't really sure anyone needs heat I guess.  One
thing I've always been grateful for was being taught the method to get really
clean by using one large bucket of water.  That should help in Y2K situations
if they every develop.  Anyway, I'd love to be where I could have tea in Swan
Park this afternoon. and maybe have guvech and ekmek for dinner.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Reno: Courageous Cluelessness?

1999-09-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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  PicturePicture: To appreciate the hugeness of Reno's accomplishment,
hearken
  back to the Reagan Justice Department. Meese was under investigation. DOJ
  inquiries into other Reagan officials were suspect. The department was
  mistrusted, a national disgrace. 

Now how can they say this.  Everywhere Meese goes, he is treated beautifully.
 He appears on all the Sunday shows from time to time, and they all act as
though he was not a crook who had to be pardoned.  In fact they act that way
to all the other creeps who were in the Reagan and Bush cabinets, especially
the ones who had to be pardoned.  It's a simple lesson they're trying to
teach:  Democrat crooks - BAD; Republican crooks - GOOD.   Okay?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] PBS PREZ RESIGNS

1999-09-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The BOSTON GLOBE is reporting on Friday that an inspector
 general's report looking into the Public Broadcasting System's
 donor list controversy has concluded that only one party benefitted
 from the list giveaway -- the Democratic Party.
 The report, released Thursday, concluded that out of 183 public TV
 and 408 public radio stations, 53 of them, or 9%, made their lists
 available to political groups. 

This is so funny.  Why hasn't it occurred to anyone that PBS like any other
outfit that sells its donor lists can only sell to someone who offers to buy
it.  Most people who watch and donate to PBS are rather intelligent
(therefore liberal?).  If they are Democrats, so be it.  The Republican Party
obviously didn't offer to buy the list and probably wouldn't have wasted
postage money sending it out.  What a crock this all is.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Re heads up and Waco, British Special Forces there?

1999-09-12 Thread Yardbird

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There were several dead from Canada I know of but both the media and
government up here simply portrayed them as religious fanatics who
instigiated their own demise. I don't recall any protest by either about
the slaughter and, typically, this is a country where they deluge us with
info about a citizen who even incurs a minor drug charge in another
country let alone gets wasted by jackbooted thugs. There's something odd
in the foreign media/government's silence on the deaths of so many of
their citizens.

Jamieson



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 We found that 25 of the dead were British citizens and another 12 were from
 British Commonwealth countries.. In total 47 dead were US, and 38 British
 Commonwealth
 This makes Waco an international incident. ..

 Maybe we missed it but  did not see any British Government protest or any
 great interest in the British press.

 But it may explain why British Special Forces were there.

 Was this a joint US-Anglo operation against their citizens?.   If so, this
 widens the dimensions and is of interest to Latins, Russians. and the rest of
 the world.

 For the numbers of dead see  Major Jack Devault  WACO WHITEWASH( Rescue
 Press, San Antonio)  page 205 Excellent book.


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[CTRL] Fwd: The Transformation of a Butterfly Part I

1999-09-12 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: The Transformation of a Butterfly Part I
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:54:55 -0500 (CDT)

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:45:29 EDT
Subject: The Transformation of a Butterfly Part I

From The Konformist ( http://www.konformist.com )

The Transformation of a Butterfly
Robert Sterling ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

"I gave my word to this tree, the forest and to all the people that my feet
would not touch the ground until I had done everything in my power to make
the world aware of this problem and to stop the destruction."

On December 10, 1997, a 23 year-old woman named Julia Hill climbs to a six
by
eight foot platform on a redwood in Humboldt County, California.  The
redwood
- known both as "The Stafford Giant," for being the largest remaining tree
near the Northern California town, and "Luna," in honor of being discovered
on a full moon - was found blue-marked to be chainsawed in the fall by
activists of the environmental group Earth First!  To save the 1,000
year-old
Luna, a nonstop tree sit-in began, one in which Julia Hill is merely going
to
be another member of.

Luna is over 200 feet tall, but the platform that Julia climbs to is 180
feet
above ground, the same number which represents in degrees a complete
reversal
in direction.  This isn't the only interesting symbolism here: as a child,
Julia chose the nickname "Butterfly," a name which implies metamorphosis.

On this day, John Elway is labeled a loser who chokes in the Super Bowl, and
the 61 homers of Roger Maris is an almost unthinkable record to break.
"Titanic" is getting good word of mouth, but there are wide expectations it
will lose money, since it will have to earn nearly impossible box-office
receipts to merely break even.  Few people have ever heard of Monica
Lewinsky, Matt Drudge or Linda Tripp, not to mention Sammy Sosa, Britney
Spears or South Park.
*
One thing hasn't changed in the 20-plus months since Julia Hill (now 25)
climbed that platform: Julia's feet have yet to return to the ground, even
through two hot summers and two cold winters (one plagued by the El Nino
storm.)  With her determination to remain on the Luna platform, Julia has
transformed into the most lovely of butterflies for a movement, and while
the
direction of the battle against Pacific Lumber's destructive logging
practices certainly hasn't turned 180 degrees, Julia has become a potent
symbol which frightens executives for the timber giant.

Most notable of the executives is Maxxam CEO Charles Hurwitz, who does the
best impression possible of Montgomery Burns (the villainous nuclear power
plant owner in The Simpsons.)  Having evaded deserved imprisonment for
masterminding the fifth largest SL failure of the Reagan-Bush era for an
astounding $1.6 billion, Maxxam used money funneled from the bank swindle to
engineer a hostile takeover of Pacific Lumber.  From the moment Maxxam took
over PL, the company has engaged in rabid clearcutting, tripling the rate of
logging on the world's largest privately-held ancient redwood forests.  The
purpose of these destructive (and often illegal) logging practices appears
to
be extorting a sweetheart deal from the government for the land, a deal
which
they may receive through the Pacific Lumber Habitat Conservation Plan, which
would pay Maxxam and Hurwitz $480 million for 9,500 acres, while letting
them
still control 200,000 acres of forests.  The plan outrages most
environmental
activists, who have fought the giveaway in the courts.  The best plan to
save
Headwaters and other forests, they argue, is to jail Hurwitz for his crimes
and trade the land for his massive debts, not to reward him for his
misdeeds.

While such issues certainly do disturb Julia, she chooses not to focus on
such long-term battles.  With an almost Buddhistic simplicity, she instead
fights one issue at a time, in her own words, "Day by day, prayer by
prayer."
  To her, sitting in Luna is like a domino: save it, and other victories
will
soon follow from the aftershocks.  Her battle plan has already worked to an
extent few (including herself) would have ever imagined possible.  As
Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart put it, "Julia is a lightning rod 180 feet
atop a giant redwood. She says, 'No more old-growth redwoods should be cut -
not on my watch.' She's the Joan of Arc of the redwoods."

Joan of Arc she is, along with a Rosa Parks, who kick-started the civil
rights movements for refusing to leave her seat on a Montgomery, Alabama bus
in 1955. She is also the Cal Ripken of tree-sitters, having an ironwoman
grit
that has had obliterated all previous tree-sit records (before her, the
longest is believed to have been no more than 3 months.)  And she insists
she
will continue to be St. Joan, Rosa and Cal combined, until the Luna tree
(and
the grove it is part of) is saved, and she brings worldwide attention to the
international 

[CTRL] Fwd: John Pilger: Jakarta's Godfathers

1999-09-12 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: John Pilger: Jakarta's Godfathers
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:38:40 -0500 (CDT)

/** reg.easttimor: 2811.0 **/
** Topic: Jakarta's Godfathers **
** Written 11:24 PM  Sep  6, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in cdp:reg.easttimor **
The Guardian [UK]
Tuesday September 7, 1999

Jakarta's godfathers

It is grotesque hypocrisy for Tony Blair to weep for the children of
Dunblane

John Pilger

Having finally discovered East Timor, most of the media have now left,
blaming a "descent into violence". The long, silent years mock these words.
The descent began almost a quarter of a century ago when Indonesian special
forces invaded the defenceless Portuguese colony. On December 7, 1975, a
lone
radio voice rose and fell in the static: "The soldiers are killing
indiscriminately. Women and children are being shot in the streets. This is
an appeal for international help. This is an SOS - please help us."

No help came, because the western democracies were secret partners in a
crime
as great and enduring as any this century; proportionally, not even Pol Pot
matched Suharto's spree. Air Force One, carrying President Ford and his
secretary of state Henry Kissinger, climbed out of Indonesian airspace the
day the bloodbath began. "They came and gave Suharto the green light,"
Philip
Liechty, the CIA desk officer in Jakarta at the time, told me. "The invasion
was delayed two days so they could get the hell out. We were ordered to give
the Indonesian military everything they wanted. I saw all the hard
intelligence; the place was a free-fire zone. Women and children were herded
into school buildings that were set alight - and all because we didn't want
some little country being neutral or leftist at the United Nations." And all
because western capital regarded Indonesia as a "prize".

Having been tipped off about the invasion, the British ambassador cabled the
foreign office that it was in Britain's interests for Indone sia to "absorb
the territory as soon and as unobtrusively as possible". Since then, the
foreign office has lied incessantly about East Timor - not misled, lied.
When
the film I made with David Munro and Max Stahl, Death of a Nation, disclosed
the extent to which the British were involved, especially the use of British
Aerospace Hawk fighter aircraft in East Timor, officials of the south-east
Asian department tried to denigrate and smear East Timorese witnesses to the
Hawks' bombing raids, whose relatives had been killed and maimed by British
cluster bombs. When Robin Cook's predecessor, David Owen, licensed the sale
of the first Hawks to Indonesia in 1978, he dismissed reports of the East
Timorese death toll, then well over 60,000 or 10% of the population, as
"exaggerated".

For almost 20 years, the BBC and the major western news agencies preferred
to
"cover" East Timor from Jakarta, which was like reporting on a Nazi-occupied
country from Berlin. The coverage was minute; not offending the invader and
keeping your visa became all-important. A Jakarta-based BBC correspondent
told me that my film, made undercover in East Timor, had "made life very
difficult for us here".

In Whitehall, a refined system of flattery worked well. Senior broadcasters
and commentators popped into the foreign office without any material favours
expected. For them, the flattery and "access" were enough. Thus, both Tory
and Labour governments, Indonesia's biggest weapons suppliers, were able to
go about their business of complicity in genocide unchallenged, bar the
efforts of a few honourable exceptions.

More recently, the grotesque hypocrisy of Tony Blair weeping for the
children
of Dunblane, then sending machine guns that mow down children in East Timor,
was ignored. So was Robin Cook's epic cynicism, allowing him to leap from
telling parliament in 1994 that Hawk aircraft had been "observed on bombing
runs in East Timor in most years since 1984" to denying his own words - to
the public-relations stunt of an "ethical" foreign policy while his
functionaries lied to journalists that no Hawks were operational in East
Timor.

Now that Hawks have been visible to all over East Timor, Baroness Symonds,
who has the Orwellian title of defence procurement minister, insults the
intelligence and humanity of Radio 4 listeners by lecturing a deferential
James Naughtie on "rights". East Timor's tormentors should have British
weapons because they "have a right under the United Nations charter to
defend
themselves". Moreover, "they have a right" to come to next week's British
government-sponsored arms fair in Surrey, the biggest ever. Last year, her
government approved the sale of ú625bn in arms, a record never reached by
the
Tories and surpassed only by the US.

Tomorrow, the East Timorese leader, Xanana Gusmao, is due to be released
from
house arrest in Jakarta. If he returns to his homeland, he is likely to be
killed and the murder 

[CTRL] Fwd: HOW FAR CAN MILITARY TRAINING OF POLICE GO?

1999-09-12 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: "H. C. Covington" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: HPN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HOW FAR CAN MILITARY TRAINING OF POLICE GO?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:31:59 -0500

HOW FAR CAN MILITARY TRAINING OF POLICE GO?

Observers say that the military has greatly stepped up training
of civilian police and arming them with weaponry over the past 20
years.  But federal law bars the military from direct law
enforcement activities -- such as searches, seizures and arrests.

Some criminal justice experts are worried that neighborhood
police are becoming too militarized.

o   The Defense Department has provided everything from tanks
at the 1993 siege at Waco, Texas, to explosives experts to
blow out a prison door, to special forces training for the
FBI and small-town law-enforcement officers.

o   In 1996-97, the Pentagon issued more than a million pieces
of equipment to local police departments.

o   One military organization alone -- Joint Task Force Six,
an anti-narcotics force based in southwest Texas --
provides 500 training missions to local law enforcement
each year.

o   The task force's own guidelines in 1993 -- the year it
trained agents for the Waco raid -- stated that "legal and
policy barriers to the application of military
capabilities are gradually being eliminated."

Some experts warn that increasingly militarized civilian police
forces threaten civil liberties and can result in excessive force
being used.

Source: Rowan Scarborough, "Military Training of Civilian Police
Steadily Expands," Washington Times, September 9, 1999.

For more on Police Resources
http://www.ncpa.org/pi/crime/crime42.html

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[CTRL] Heads up and Waco, British Special Forces there?

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426

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Jamieson

Here'  the complete list of dead  by  citizenship

US  47
British  25
Australia 8
Canada  2
Israel  l
New Zealand  2

By race is also interesting

White  40
Black  29
Hispanics  6
Asian 3
Polynesian  2
Asia-mixed 2

Shades of Georgetown!!Whites slightly in minority 40 vs 42.non-white.

More interesting leads.

Rhodes scholarship named after Cecil Rhodes who had his secret society based
at Oxford, England   Anybody studied the eugenics aspect of Rhodes secret
society??

Then look at Yale SB  ( see my AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT) definitely
tied to the eugenics movement of Mrs Averell Harriman.  No Jews or Blacks in
SB until maybe the 1950's., and today only a few.tokens in front positions.

CLINTON was Rhodes scholar,  so was independent investigator DANFORTHa
Rhodes scholar


Agreed this is straining.  Needs a lot more data on the Anglo aspect and the
race aspect, and Rhodes angle might be worth checking.   No foreign press
either!

But like Jamieson  my nose is twitching

ANTONY C SUTTON Author AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT

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[CTRL] Fwd: The Transformation of a Butterfly Part II

1999-09-12 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: The Transformation of a Butterfly Part II
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:55:00 -0500 (CDT)

continued from Part I -

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:45:42 EDT
Subject: The Transformation of a Butterfly Part II

From The Konformist ( http://www.konformist.com )

The demonization of Earth First! is the direct result of an organized
campaign promoted by the FBI and the timber companies.  Admittedly, Earth
First! made it quite easy to be discredited originally: most members spoke
in
favor of the practice of tree spiking, and in 1987, when George Alexander
was
nearly decapitated at a Louisiana Pacific lumber mill in Cloverdale mill,
the
group showed little sympathy for his plight.  Soon after, they were blamed
in
the press for the accident, though no evidence has ever been presented for
the allegation and nobody was ever charged.  Still, the smear was an easy
stick, based on the leaderships' refusal to disavow acts of sabotage that
were potentially lethal.  The aftershock of such reckless philosophical
nihilism lasts to this day: although there have been no injuries of
lumberjacks caused by Earth First! members, the label of the group as "tree
spikers" still exists.

In 1988, the FBI launched a major sting operation against Earth First! in
Arizona, Operation THERMCON.  Over $3 million dollars were spent trying to
entrap and frame members of Earth First! in acts of destruction.  Over 50
FBI
agents were involved in the operation, including agent Michael Fain and
informant Ron Frazier.  Both Fain and Frazier were the leaders of five
people
caught trying to disrupt power lines in the Arizona desert.  Despite the
fact
that the failed act of sabotage was conceived and commanded by FBI
provocateurs, the further damage to Earth First! and its reputation had been
done.  It could have been worse: among the plans Fain couldn't convince
others to participate in was attacking nuclear power plants.

In 1990, the campaign heated up in reaction to Proposition 130, the
California initiative, dubbed Forests Forever, which would have ended
unsustainable logging and clearcutting.  If it had passed, the losses to
Pacific Lumber, Louisiana Pacific and Georgia Pacific would have been in the
hundreds of million dollars.  Even worse, a new leader in the Earth First!
movement was emerging: Judi Bari, who insisted that Earth First! as a group
condemn all potentially hazardous acts of disobedience.  Bari, a former
union
organizer, also began reaching out to local loggers.  The twin values
promoted by Bari were a threatening combination to the status quo: it's hard
to demonize those that preach non-violence, and her developing alliance with
workers could drive a stake in one of the most effective tools for business
monoliths: pitting workers against environmentalists, making the issues of
jobs and ecological balance appear to be in conflict.  (In truth,
considering
the shoddy treatment loggers receive from the lumber giants - Louisiana
Pacific has laid off over a thousand workers since 1988 and engaged
regularly
in union-busting activities, and Pacific Lumber under Hurwitz has looted $55
million from the worker pension fund - they actually share a common opponent
in exploitation with forest activists.)

The big three lumber companies soon hired Hill  Knowlton, the PR firm that
would later sell America on mass murder in Iraq.  Soon, Prop 130 was labeled
"The Earth First! Initiative."  Phony Earth First! flyers and press releases
calling for violence and sabotage were released.  Something known as the
"Earth First! Terrorism Manual" began circulating as well.  According to San
Francisco Examiner columnist Rob Morse, a press kit he received from HK and
Pacific Lumber "included a press release on the Earth First! letterhead, but
not written in the usual careful, sweet style of Earth First! It read like a
bad Hollywood version of what radicals talk like... At the bottom of this
ridiculous flyer was the name of Earth First! leader Darryl Cherney, with
his
first name misspelled..."

Then, on May 24, 1990, Judi and Darryl were both nearly killed, when a
motion-triggered pipe bomb hidden under the driver's seat of Judi's car
exploded in Oakland, California. Oakland Police immediately arrested them,
blaming the bombing on the victims, who they claimed were injured by their
own bomb going off by accident.  Over the next month and a half, the Oakland
PD and the FBI trotted out claim after claim of sensationalistic lies, all
to
convince the public of their guilt.  Bari informed the police she had
received numerous death threats in the months preceding the bombing, but the
cops weren't interested.  "If you turn up dead, then we'll investigate,"
they
said.

If they had ever bothered to investigate, their findings would have been
quite interesting.  Just a month before the bombing, the FBI conducted a
bomb
investigation 

[CTRL] Fwd: Noam Chomsky: Kosovo Peace Accord

1999-09-12 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
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Subject: Noam Chomsky: Kosovo Peace Accord
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:02:47 -0500 (CDT)

/** labr.global: 231.0 **/
** Topic: Noam Chomsky: History repeating itself "if we let it"
( **
** Written  7:52 AM  Aug  5, 1999 by labornews in cdp:labr.global **
Kosovo Peace Accord (Z-Magazine, July '99)
By Noam Chomsky
http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/index.cfm

On March 24, U.S.-led NATO air forces began to pound the Federal Republic
of Yugoslavia (FYR, Serbia and Montenegro), including Kosovo, which NATO
regards as a province of Serbia. On June 3, NATO and Serbia reached a
Peace Accord. The U.S. declared victory, having successfully concluded its
"10-week struggle to compel Mr. Milosevic to say uncle," Blaine Harden
reported in the New York Times. It would therefore be unnecessary to use
ground forces to "cleanse Serbia" as Harden had recommended in a lead
story headlined "How to Cleanse Serbia." The recommendation was natural in
the light of American history, which is dominated by the theme of ethnic
cleansing from its origins and to the present day, achievements celebrated
in the names given to military attack helicopters and other weapons of
destruction. A qualification is in order, however: the term "ethnic
cleansing" is not really appropriate: U.S. cleansing operations have been
ecumenical; Indochina and Central America are two recent illustrations.

While declaring victory, Washington did not yet declare peace: the bombing
continues until the victors determine that their interpretation of the
Kosovo Accord has been imposed. From the outset, the bombing had been cast
as a matter of cosmic significance, a test of a New Humanism, in which the
"enlightened states" (Foreign Affairs) open a new era of human history
guided by "a new internationalism where the brutal repression of whole
ethnic groups will no longer be tolerated" (Tony Blair). The enlightened
states are the United States and its British associate, perhaps also
others who enlist in their crusades for justice.

Apparently the rank of "enlightened states" is conferred by definition.
One finds no attempt to provide evidence or argument, surely not from
their history. The latter is in any event deemed irrelevant by the
familiar doctrine of "change of course," invoked regularly in the
ideological institutions to dispatch the past into the deepest recesses of
the memory hole, thus deterring the threat that some might ask the most
obvious questions: with institutional structures and distribution of power
essentially unchanged, why should one expect a radical shift in policy --
or any at all, apart from tactical adjustments?

But such questions are off the agenda. "From the start the Kosovo problem
has been about how we should react when bad things happen in unimportant
places," global analyst Thomas Friedman explained in the New York Times as
the Accord was announced. He proceeds to laud the enlightened states for
pursuing his moral principle that "once the refugee evictions began,
ignoring Kosovo would be wrong...and therefore using a huge air war for a
limited objective was the only thing that made sense."

A minor difficulty is that concern over the "refugee evictions" could not
have been the motive for the "huge air war." The United Nations
Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) reported its first registered refugees
outside of Kosovo on March 27 (4000), three days after the bombings began.
The toll increased until June 4, reaching a reported total of 670,000 in
the neighboring countries (Albania, Macedonia), along with an estimated
70,000 in Montenegro (within the FYR), and 75,000 who had left for other
countries. The figures, which are unfortunately all too familiar, do not
include the unknown numbers who have been displaced within Kosovo, some
2-300,000 in the year before the bombing according to NATO, a great many
more afterwards.

Uncontroversially, the "huge air war" precipitated a sharp escalation of
ethnic cleansing and other atrocities. That much has been reported
consistently by correspondents on the scene and in retrospective analyses
in the press. The same picture is presented in the two major documents
that seek to portray the bombing as a reaction to the humanitarian crisis
in Kosovo. The most extensive one, provided by the State Department in
May, is suitably entitled "Erasing History: Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo";
the second is the Indictment of Milosevic and associates by the
International Tribunal on War Crimes in Yugoslavia after the U.S. and
Britain "opened the way for what amounted to a remarkably fast indictment
by giving [prosecutor Louise] Arbour access to intelligence and other
information long denied to her by Western governments," the New York Times
reported, with two full pages devoted to the Indictment. Both documents
hold that the atrocities began "on or about January 1"; in both, however,
the detailed chronology 

[CTRL] Fwd: US AS GLOBAL OVERLORD: DUMBING DOWN, AMERICAN-STYLE

1999-09-12 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: MichaelP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: US AS GLOBAL OVERLORD: DUMBING DOWN, AMERICAN-STYLE
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:09:21 -0500 (CDT)

Le Monde diplomatique
-
August 1999

US AS GLOBAL OVERLORD

Dumbing down, American-style
_
The projection of United States' power abroad has much to do with the way
in which its internal consensus is formed. Ever-present advertising,
ideological bombardment by institutions that challenge the very idea of
public policies for the common good, isolation and cul+++

Le Monde diplomatique
-

August 1999

US AS GLOBAL OVERLORD

Dumbing down, American-style
_

The projection of United States' power abroad has much to do with the way
in which its internal consensus is formed. Ever-present advertising,
ideological bombardment by institutions that challenge the very idea of
public policies for the common good, isolation and cultural protectionism:
this is the heavy price Americans pay as their tribute to the god of
business.

by HERBERT I SCHILLER  * Professor Emeritus of Communication at the
University of California,
San Diego.

_

For at least half a century, the global theatre has had one dominating
actor - the United States of America. Less in total direction of the stage
now than 25 years ago, the American presence in the world economy and
culture remains commanding: a gross national product of $7,690 billion in
1998, the home base of the majority of the transnational corporations that
scour the world for markets and profits, the overseer of the many facades
of international decision-making, the United Nations Organisation, the
North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, the International Monetary Fund,
the World Bank, the World Trade Organisation and others, the
cultural-electronic Goliath of the universe. Its supremacy is
recognised universally and with increasing resentment, to judge by the
comments of a British diplomat reported by the American academic,
Samuel P Huntington:  "One reads about the world's desire for American
leadership only in the United States. Everywhere else one reads about
American arrogance and unilateralism" (1).

Yet how the world sees us may not be as revealing as how we see ourselves.
How do those who live in this globally pre-eminent territory understand
their own and their country's situation? Is it, in fact, so obvious to
everyone, as they go about their daily routines, that they are part of a
dominating global order? When, if at all, do people in this ruling core
society express indignation at, or resistance to, the burdens their order
imposes on others - and frequently on themselves as well?

This is not an awareness that can be taken for granted or that inevitably
surfaces. Indeed, the far-reaching enterprise of being the global overlord
requires not indignation but support, or at least acquiescence, from the
people who inhabit the home territory - some 270 million of them. Up to
the present time this has been achieved in a complex way, one that
combines heavy indoctrination that begins in the cradle with a system of
selection and/or omission of information that reinforces the enterprise's
maintenance and growth. Along with intense, though often veiled, efforts
of persuasion, and equally extensive exclusion of potential discordancies,
there is a well-graded arsenal of coercions that begin with admonition and
end with incarceration. There are almost 1.8 million people in prison in
the USA, a world record per head of population.

Together, to date, these instruments of social control have been
remarkably successful in producing, if not enthusiastic believers, at
least general acceptance at home of the US control apparatus and its
procedures for running the world. In justification of this endeavour,
there are continual reminders by the governing class of how blessed
everyone is, at home and abroad, with the present arrangements. The
refrain of America's greatness has echoed throughout the land in the
post-second world war years. One president after another tells Americans
how wonderful they are. Not only at the present time but apparently since
Neanderthal days, the country is without peer. Madeleine Albright has even
described it as "the indispensable nation" (2). How can anyone not
recognise the bliss of living in the US at this time? Yet many do not.
Assertion, apparently, is not enough. More comprehensive methods of
securing popular adherence, never absent in the past, are being refined
and calibrated for the millennium ahead.

One of the most tested and effective means of keeping order in the ranks
comes from definitional control - the ability to explain and circulate the

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1

1999-09-12 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990912a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No UFOs were sighted in Botswana during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Discs Seen Across Face Of Moon - Huge Triangles Seen Around US. Since the
  first of the month, there has been a spectacular display of the re-entry
  of Russian space debris into our atmosphere as UFOs dart around at lower
  altitudes. IN NEW YORK DISCS MOVE ACROSS THE MOON. PENNSYLVANIA ABDUCTION
  FROM AIR FORCE BASE. MUFON OF VIRGINIA - SIGHTING  ALLEGED ABDUCTION.
  IOWA PILOT SEES FLYING TRIANGLE SEEDING CLOUDS. TEXAS  CALIFORNIA FLYING
  TRIANGLES. RUSSIAN BOOSTER REENTRY, AUSTRALIA AND WESTERN USA.
  http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/flyers91199.htm

# ETs  Ground Traces Found in Quebec? http://sightings.com/ufo4/queb.htm
@ LA Topanga Canyon UFO Sightings: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/lufo.htm
@ Italian UFOcrash: real or not? http://web.tiscalinet.it/ky/ufocrashita.htm

: Have you seen any UFOs lately? Have any UFOs seen you? Have you been ab-
ducted? Have you abducted anyone? Are you triangular? Do you triangulate??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# UFO 'Invasion' Outcry Spreads To Virginia. Another legal front opened up
  in the dawning battle between UFO activists and the US govt in the form
  of an upcoming Virginia petition demanding prompt action against alien
  invaders, to compel Virginia authorities to uphold their Constitutional
  obligation to protect citizens from the "clandestine invasion" of UFOs.
  http://www.space.com/area51/virginia.html

: Have'ya been clandestinely invaded? If it's clandestine, how can'ya tell?
Have you tracked the invaders? Have you captured or killed any? Is it fun??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Gordon Cooper Says No UFO On His Mercury Flight. Pioneering astronaut
  Gordon Cooper denies being the first astronaut to see a UFO while in
  orbit, but stands by his reports of a strange encounter over Germany in
  the 1950s. Cooper flatly denied the long-standing claim, repeated over
  the years by various authors including UFOlogical saints Allen Hynek and
  Jacques Valley, that he saw a greenish object with a red tail move past
  his Mercury 9 spacecraft in 1963. http://www.space.com/area51/cooper.html

: Have you been in space lately? Did you see any UFOs? Did you tell anyone?
Did anyone think you told them? Do you see more UFOs in space or on Earth?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

? SIGHTING. Today in Argentina there was a sighting of 4 UFO's flying in
  formation and doing the usual dance... Anyone got more info on this one??
  Gerardo E. Arceri [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# CROP CIRCLE REPORTs. Update on Neilburg, Saskatchewan Crop Formation.
  Additional images, including an updated diagram and some excellent
  ground shots, are now available: http://caus.org/ccr091199.htm

# UFO REPORTs - 1) UFO Immobolizes Wheelchair - 2) Landed UFO in 1977 -
  For both reports, please go to: http://caus.org/mu091199.htm

: Where do you report your UFO and crop-circle sightings? Do we need one
central clearing-house? Would it quickly be controlled by gov't agents??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Nikola Tesla... Erased At The Smithsonian. DECEPTION AT THE SMITHSONIAN!
  Its curators essentially credit Edison for our worldwide system of elec-
  tricity. They also credits Marconi for the invention of radio. This is a
  deliberate assault on factual history and needs to be challenged.  WHO
  DO YOU BELIEVE? http://www.concentric.net/~Jwwagner/p2.html

: Have you revised history lately? Have you reprogrammed cultural memories?
Who do you work for? Why do they want these changes? How much do they pay?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# More spies to be named. Up to 12 more Brits recruited into the KGB will
  be unmasked later this week. Some are still alive and living in the UK.
  http://www.independent.co.uk/sindy/stories/A1209901.html
# Former Spy Says Russia Buried Explosives In U.S (Reuters):
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990911/13/news-usa-spy

@ BABYLON TRANSLATORS software translates English to Dutch, French, German,
  Hebrew, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, and/or Portuguese. Free downloads:
  http://www.babylon.com/eng/download/download.html

# RUSSIA BOMBS DAGESTAN REBELS AFTER LOSING COPTER - Muslim villages pounded
  into mush: http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9909/12/russia.dagestan.01.reut/
# IRAN COURT SENTENCES FOUR TO DEATH FOR JULY UNREST - dissent is a capitol
  offense: http://cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9909/12/iran.unrest.reut/index.html

@ How And Why We Are Training Our Kids To Kill:
  http://www.sightings.com/politics4/howwhy.htm
@ Terminator and Traitor agribiz technologies:
  www.rafi.org  http://www.ucsusa.org/

# United States Complicity in East Timor:
  http://www.thenation.com/issue/990927/0927nairn.shtml
# Death Invades a Church - Catholic Nun Tells How Timorese 

[CTRL] Face of the Future?

1999-09-12 Thread K

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 http://www.scmp.com/News/China/Article/FullText_asp_ArticleID-
19990910030020293.asp

Friday, September 10, 1999

Christians face 'harsh prison terms'
STAFF REPORTER in Beijing and AGENCIES

Thirty-one underground Christians detained in Henan province last
month will soon be tried and handed harsh sentences, a church
leader said yesterday.
David Zhang, who runs the unofficial China Fangcheng Church in
the province, told an American-based human rights group that the
home church leaders would receive "heavy, long-term" sentences.
"The Government already sees home churches as an evil religion
and they will take advantage of the repression of the Falun Gong
sect to root out our churches," he told Human Rights in China.
The 31 church leaders were taken away by police late last month
while attending an evangelical meeting in a house west of Tanghe
in the southwest region of Henan.
Mr Zhang's home was later raided by police who said the minister
was under investigation for "harming state security".
"The main leaders including Zhang Rongliang, Feng Jianguo, Wang
Xincai and Zheng Shuqian will be tried at the Fangcheng County
court," Mr Zhang told the rights group.
"Sources have told me that Zhang Rongliang may be sentenced to
more than 10 years."
But an official at the Tanghe County Public Security Bureau said
yesterday that most of the detained members had been released
after receiving "re-education".
"The people remaining in custody have not yet been tried and are
still under investigation for activities in relation to evil religions," he
said, but refused to give the number still detained.
The rights group said it was alarming that the authorities seemed
to have abandoned all legal procedures in handling the Christians.
The speed in which they were to be sentenced indicated the
authorities were determined to uproot the underground church in
Henan - a traditional stronghold for Christians.
Coincidentally, five Falun Gong members have been detained by
Beijing police for attending a gathering in defiance of the ban on the
sect.
According to the Beijing Morning Post, 19 people recently showed
up for a meeting on the lawn behind the Beijing Exhibition Hall.
It was held at the behest of Jiang Shilong, a member of Hainan
province's Falun Gong branch.
Mr Jiang sought the help of Jilin province member Li Hongbing, who
introduced him to Zhu Shuyuan, director of a local Beijing branch of
Falun Gong.
Together they organised the event, which discussed the situation in
Hainan and Beijing.
Police arrived and seized everyone.
Members who are not Beijing residents have been sent back to
their towns.




Kathleen


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[CTRL] U.S. Studies Religious Persecution

1999-09-12 Thread K

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19990909/pl/us_religious_persecut
ion_2.html

Politics Headlines
Thursday September 9 5:25 PM ET
U.S. Studies Religious Persecution
By GEORGE GEDDA Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - A State Department report Thursday pointed
to evidence of widespread religious persecution in Iraq, Iran and
Afghanistan, all under varying degrees of authoritarian rule, and to
discrimination in some democratic countries as well, including
Israel and India.
The report, covering 194 countries and territories, is the first of what
will become an annual assessment of the state of religious freedom
around the world. The most serious violators could eventually face
economic sanctions.
The study stressed that religious persecution is not confined to a
particular faith. ``Throughout the world, Buddhists, Christians,
Hindus, Jews, Muslims and other believers continue to suffer for
their faith,'' it said.
While the report did not rank the countries based on the degree to
which they limit freedom, the excesses attributed to the Iraqi
government stood out.
Iraqi leader ``Saddam Hussein has for decades conducted a brutal
campaign of murder, summary execution and protracted arbitrary
detention against the religious leaders and adherents of the Shiite
Muslim population,'' the report said.
It said Iraqi security forces ``have murdered senior Shiite clerics,
desecrated mosques and holy sites, arrested tens of thousands of
Shiites and forcibly prevented Shiites from practicing their religion.''
Shiites in Afghanistan also suffered persecution and killing at the
hands of the Taliban-led government in Kabul. Afghan police
impose ``severe physical punishment and imprisonment'' for
deviations from codes of worship and dress,'' the report said.
It said Iran is intent on eradicating the Baha'is through prolonged
detention and imprisonment, confiscation and desecration of
graveyards and holy places. It added that other religious minorities
in Iran also suffer.
In general, the report made clear that democratic countries are far
more tolerant of religious diversity than are countries run by
totalitarian or authoritarian regimes. The report credits India, for
example, for respecting constitutional provisions guaranteeing
freedom of religion.
But it said, tensions between Muslims and Hindus in India, and to
a lesser extent between Hindus and Christians, ``continue to pose
a challenge to the concepts of secularism, tolerance and diversity
on which the state was founded.'' It added that state and local
governments only partially respect religious freedom. The report
also said there have been numerous reports of human rights
abuses carried out by the mostly Hindu security forces against the
predominantly Muslim population in the region of Kashmir
controlled by India.
As for India's rival, Pakistan, the report said discriminatory
legislation has encouraged an atmosphere of ``religious
intolerance, which has led to acts of violence by extremists against
members of religious minorities, including Christians, Hindus,
Ahmadis and Zikris.''
In democratic Israel, the report said the country's 20 percent Arab
population does not receive the same quality of education, housing,
employment opportunities and social services as Jews. In addition,
it said, ``government spending and financial support are
proportionally far lower in predominantly non-Jewish areas.''
On China, the report said Chinese citizens can face harassment or
prolonged detention in labor camps if they practice religion outside
officially sponsored churches.
The study also cited credible reports of abuse against Buddhist
monks and nuns in China, including Tibet.
In Beijing, a Chinese spokesman rejected the allegations as
malicious interference.
``Nobody has been arrested or detained because of religious
beliefs,'' Foreign Ministry spokesman Sun Yuxi said. ``If religious
believers are arrested, it is not because of their religious beliefs but
because they have taken part in criminal activities.''
President Clinton is expected to meet this weekend with Chinese
President Jiang Zemin at the Asia-Pacific summit in Auckland,
New Zealand.

 Comment:  Now, don't you feel all better because Clinton is
looking out for your rights?



Kathleen


"The homicidal state shares one trait with the solitary killer--like all murderers, it 
trips on its own egoism and drops a trai
l of clues which, when properly collected, preserved, and analyzed are as damning as a 
signed confession left in the grave." -
Forensic Anthropologist Clyde Snow

DECLARATION  DISCLAIMER
==
CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic
screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #2

1999-09-12 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990912b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No peasants were ruthlessly impaled during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Gene Repair Shows Promise for Genetic Disease. NEW YORK (Reuters)  Through
  the use of a novel technique termed 'chimeraplasty,' researchers repaired
  a specific genetic defect. "We developed a system whereby we could go in
  and literally rewrite the genetic sequence in a specific gene of interest"
  - see http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/health/daily/sept99/gene10.htm

: What gene sequences would'ya like to rewrite? Have you rewritten any genes
lately? D'ya use an online editor? D'ya make typing mistakes? What happens?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ First three AIDS cases in 1959? THE RIVER - Tracing the source of AIDS.
  (CNN) Based on over a decade of research, "The River" examines the myriad
  theories about the origin of the AIDS epidemic - and reaches a stunning 
  startling conclusion. "It appears that this tiny amount of blood, taken
  in 1959 from an unknown man living in the city now known as Kinshasa...
  Congo, represents the oldest specimen of [HIV] in existence." Whodunnit?
  See http://www.cnn.com/books/beginnings/9909/the.river/index.html

: Have you engineered any diseases lately? Did your start fresh, or modify a
pre-existing disease, or accept help from aliens/CIA/Illuminati/deities/me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# FLUORIDATED WATER MAY PROVOKE LEAD POISONING. Chemicals commonly used
  to add fluoride to public drinking water supplies may make children
  more susceptible to lead poisoning, a new study suggests. More research
  is needed, of course: http://ens.lycos.com/ens/sep99/1999L-09-09-09.html
# Your bionic future: http://sciam.com/1999/0999bionic/0999quicksummary.html

: Have you chemically modified/enhanced any water supplies lately? Did you
add fluorides, chlorides, LSD, sugar? Can you take over the world this way?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# KU KLUX KLAN KORRECTED. To the satisfaction of many, it was a klansman's
  worst nightmare. K.A. Badynski woke up one day last week and found his Ku
  Klux Klan Web site hijacked. Visitors seeking white pride information were
  instead automatically sent to an organization devoted to fighting online
  bigotry. Bother!! http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21687.html
# Branding Bigotry: http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/13682.html

: Have ya hacked any bigots lately? Do bigots hack you? Do you have a multi-
ethnic hack-fest? Is mutual hacking fun? Is it better than burning crosses?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Columbine Dad Says Hatred Abounds. SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (Reuters) The father
  of the only black victim of the massacre at Columbine High School in which
  15 people died said the Littleton, Colorado, school was still "saturated"
  by hateful students. Michael Shoels said Littleton and Colorado are in
  denial over the continued hatred at Columbine. New swastikas serve as
  warning: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990911/16/news-shooting-columbine

: Who/why/how do you hate? Should/can/will you ever stop hating? Do you love
symbols of hatred? Do you hate symbols of love? Are you ignored? By whom??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# CHARGING TO ATTEND JEWISH SERVICES SPARKS DEBATE. During Judaism's high
  holy days, Jews are individually asked to embark on a journey of intro-
  spection. But there is also a self-examination underway within the faith
  itself over whether people should have to pay to attend services at
  synagogues.  Critics say custom a barrier to practicing faith:
  http://cnn.com/US/9909/11/high.holy.days.costs/index.html

# Synagogues Boost Security for High Holy Days:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990910/18/ca-state-news-13

: Does your belief system charge admission to ritually-significant events?
Does anyone scalp tickets? How does Rosh Hashana differ from the Super Bowl?
Do bombings  shootings  threats raise the costs of your events? How much?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Waco-Rama:

# CORONER WANTS TO REEVALUATE WACO SHOOTING DEATHS. As an independent probe
  of the govt's role in the 1993 Branch Davidian standoff begins, a medical
  examiner wants to reexamine the cases of at least 23 sect members who died
  from gunshot wounds. And congressional probers of the Waco siege weren't
  given an FBI report showing military tear gas canisters at the scene. Page
  missing in report to Congress: http://cnn.com/US/9909/11/waco.evidence/

@ FBI SET FIRE: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacofire.htm

# Rangers' Report on Waco Siege Remains Secret. (AP) Texas officials
  said a new report on evidence collected at the Branch Davidian compound
  could not be made public because it contained military secrets. Huh?
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/sept99/waco12.htm

# Impossible Mission 

[CTRL] OEN 9/12/99

1999-09-12 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-

Today's Lesson from The Laundrymen (1996)

by Jeffrey Robinson


Private banking still operates in what used to be Yugoslavia, offering
incredibly high interest rates. During the height of the war, for
example, it reached 10 to 15 percent per month, amounts way out of line
with the rest of Europe. ...private banks in the area were known to be
using hard currency deposits to finance drug deals--half of Bosnia is
said to be covered with fields of cannabis, and ethic Albanians have
established a firm hold over the heroin market--which in turn financed
weapons.

It all worked by means of a typically triangular trade route. An
Austrian shell company, whose beneficial owners are unknown, bought arms
from Bulgaria and delivered them to Albanians arming the underground in
the anti-Serb revolt. The Bulgarians used the money to pay for raw opium
in the Middle East, which it sold to the Albanians. In turn, the
Albanians refined the opium into heroin and spent their profits buying
arms from the Austrian shell. Disguised as a legal business deal and
protected by strict banking secrecy, no one caught them breaking UN
sanctions.
=
Spy vs. Spy

Scotland Yard Detective Was a KGB Agent

The Vasili Mitrokhin revelations continue.


A SECOND Briton - a former Scotland Yard detective - was identified as a
KGB agent by the Soviet defector Vasili Mitrokhin but escaped
prosecution, The Telegraph can disclose.

Mitrokhin, a former KGB archivist, named John Symonds, now 64, as a spy
when he fled to the West in 1992. The list of Soviet spies handed to MI6
also included Melita Norwood, now 87, who passed crucial atomic secrets
to the Kremlin under the codename HOLA.

Yesterday, a barrage of criticism greeted the revelation that Norwood
was not brought to justice but allowed to carry on living quietly in a
south London suburb. Senior Conservatives condemned Jack Straw, the Home
Secretary, for failing to disclose the treachery unmasked by Mitrokhin.

The Telegraph has also learnt of a series of extraordinary revelations
made by Mitrokhin which show the extent of KGB operations against
Britain and the West. These include disclosures that:

•The KGB planned to disrupt the investiture of the Prince of Wales.

•A late Labour MP, Raymond Fletcher, was recruited as a Soviet agent.

•Moscow plotted to injure the ballet stars Rudolf Nureyev and Natalya
Makarova - who had defected - to ruin their careers.

•A series of plots were launched against the Pope.

Symonds, who left the Yard while facing corruption charges before he
began working for the Soviets, has three children and now shares his
time between homes in North London and Portugal. Codenamed Scot, he
passed on sensitive information and was used as a so-called "Romeo
agent" whose task was to sleep with employees of foreign embassies in
order to extract secrets.

Symonds was a detective sergeant who had served at least 15 years in the
Metropolitan Police, and in 1969 was one of three officers charged with
corruption following a newspaper investigation into bribery at the Yard.
He skipped bail and fled to Morocco, claiming later that he did so
because he had been framed in Britain and could not get justice.

In Morocco, Symonds served as a mercenary but after a short time allowed
himself to be recruited by the KGB. It was his bitterness towards his
treatment in Britain, says Mitrokhin, that encouraged him to defect to
the Soviets. Between 1973 and 1980 he toured the world on KGB business,
staying in five-star hotels. He subsequently claimed to have lured more
than 100 women to his bed during this period - largely thanks to
seduction techniques taught him by his Soviet spymasters.

According to Mitrokhin, he played a crucial part in the downfall of
Willy Brandt, the West German chancellor. Symonds returned in 1980
because he was homesick. He stood trial for corruption at the Old
Bailey, pleading not guilty, but was convicted and jailed for two years.
He told MI5 he was willing to give full details of his espionage career,
and offered to supply invaluable details of KGB personnel and structure
around the world. He was dismissed as a fantasist.

In 1985 he told his story to the Daily Express - but security sources
again dismissed it. Only now has the Mitrokhin archive confirmed all its
incredible details - thereby demonstrating that British intelligence
missed a colossal opportunity. Symonds makes a full confession in BBC2's
The Spying Game, to be broadcast on September 19. He said: "I am not
proud of what I did - but I was driven to the KGB because I could not
get justice."

Tom King, the former Defence Secretary and chairman of the Parliamentary
committee on security and intelligence warned that there would be a
flood of further revelations from the Mitrokhin archive. He said: "We

[CTRL] Stuff about financial frauds and scams

1999-09-12 Thread Kris Millegan

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[CTRL] DRUDGE: KGB JFK assassination

1999-09-12 Thread Jeff Russo

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don't remember if anyone posted this yesterday jeff
from DRUDGE REPORT

BOOK: KGB TRIED TO LINK JFK ASSASSINATION TO CIA THROUGH U.S. CONSPIRACY
THEORISTS

The NEW YORK TIMES is reporting on Sunday details from a new book co-authored
by a former Soviet spy
asserting that during the Cold War the KGB planted bogus evidence with U.S.
conspiracy theorists trying
to tie the John F. Kennedy assassination to the CIA!

TIMES' spook watcher James Risen offers details from former KGB agent Vasily
Mitrokhin's new book "The
Sword and the Shield" -- including how a fake Lee Harvey Oswald letter --
purportedly written to CIA
agent E. Howard Hunt two weeks before JFK's death -- made its way into books, a
Dallas newspaper and
eventually congressional hearings.

Risen writes that the KGB attempts to reach beyond fringe conspiracists in the
U.S. ultimately failed,
though.

"But the archives spirited out of Russia by Mitrokhin appear to support the
longstanding assertions by
CIA officials that the KGB conducted disinformation campaigns designed to raise
dark suspicions about
the U.S. government and prominent American leaders around the world."

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Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: KGB JFK assassination

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426

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Of course you can look at this another way...that CIA added some extra
disinformation documents to the original Mitrokhiv archives... they both
lplayed the same game. And Risen should know that. After all he works for
NEW YORK TIMES with the motto "all the news that fits"..

Why name bit player Hunt?   Why not  George de Mohrenschildt, a  Russian
friend of  George W Bush.Jr. and the Texas oil crowd  with all kinds of
verifiable links to JFK assassination...

Of course you can play this game two ways.  If you spot the deception you can
identify the focus of interest, and if you know the focus of
interest..and so it goes.

ANTONY SUTTON.

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Re: [CTRL] guru.net

1999-09-12 Thread Aol user

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Peter,
Thanks for the site.
I installed and I registered but every time I start the PC again the
registration screen comes up.
Am I missing something?
Thanks,
Terry

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[CTRL] Military forces' role in Waco challenged

1999-09-12 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:POLITICS71C/1:POLITICS71C091299.html

Updated: Sunday, Sep. 12, 1999 at 00:15 CDT

   Military forces' role in Waco challenged

   By Jennifer Autrey
   Star-Telegram Staff Writer

   The images of Bradley fighting vehicles punching
   holes in the wooden compound of the Branch
   Davidian sect and of helicopters hovering overhead
   as the structure burned have become etched in
   America's collective psyche.

   The extent and legality of the military involvement in

   the 51- day siege at the Mount Carmel compound
   near Waco six years ago is expected to be a focus of
   upcoming investigations into the fiery end of the
   siege on April 19, 1993. The bodies of sect leader
   David Koresh and about 80 of his followers were
   recovered in the fire's remains. Among questions
   surrounding the operation is how military personnel,
   equipment and munitions were used and whether the
   government had a role in setting the blaze that
   consumed the compound. At the heart of the
   questions about military involvement is the Posse
   Comitatus Act, which prohibits the armed forces from
   participating in civilian law enforcement operations.

   Some issues expected to be examined are:

   * The involvement of the Delta Force, an elite,
   top-secret Army unit established to combat
   terrorism. Some former government officials say the
   Delta Force had a greater role in the operation than
   the FBI acknowledges and, as a result, violated the
   Posse Comitatus Act.

   In a sworn affidavit, a former sergeant first class in

   Army Special Forces said a noncommissioned officer
   told him that the Delta Force's "B" Squadron had
   been ordered to "take down" the Branch Davidians at
   Mount Carmel.

   * Whether federal officials used a 1990 change in the
   Posse Comitatus Act -- allowing the use of the
   military in anti-drug operations -- to assist the
   Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the FBI
   in the Waco siege and assault.

   When the ATF asked the military for help in staging
   its initial raid of the compound on Feb. 28, 1993,
   military officers said the ATF would have to
   reimburse the Army for any assistance because there
   was "no known drug nexus," according to Lt. Col. Lon
   Walker, an Army liaison to the ATF.

   Less than a month later, the ATF added "drug
   activity" to the matters it was investigating in
regard
   to the Branch Davidians, a move that a congressional
   report called "deliberately misleading."

   * Possible violations of Texas and Alabama state laws
   prohibiting the use of National Guard personnel and
   equipment against the Branch Davidians.

   Texas law prohibits the use of the Texas National
   Guard in civilian law enforcement unless there is a
   clear drug connection. Alabama law says its National
   Guard force has no authority outside state
   boundaries.

   National Guard personnel and equipment from both
   states were used at Mount Carmel. A congressional
   report has determined that those actions were taken
   without proper authority.

   Delta Force

   Recent revelations indicate that the Delta Force had
   a greater presence and a more active role in the final

   assault on the Branch Davidians than FBI officials
   have acknowledged. According to at least one
   account, the Delta Force was there not to advise, but
   to kill.

   Steven Barry, a retired Special Forces sergeant who
   sometimes trained members of the Delta Force,
   gave a sworn affidavit to 

Re: [CTRL] Reno: Courageous Cluelessness?

1999-09-12 Thread Amelia K Edgeman

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Prudy,
At least the Republican crooks are charged with something and sometimes even
prosecuted.  G Gordon Liddy went to jail; Nixon resigned.  I compare
Watergate to Chinagate and cannot help but wonder what a Democrat has to be
to even be charged with anything.  I would put Watergate about on level with
Travelgate and the 1000+ FBI files that just "appeared" in the White House
with no one responsible. I realize Chinagate had been going on for some time
but these are the ones that cashed in on it and absolutely nothing happens
to them.  I suppose it does not really matter as they are all on the same
team anyway.  As you say, they are all welcomed as good, patriotic Americans
no matter what they do. Guess the "investigations" are to quell the masses
outrage and have no teeth in the end anyway.

I saw a recent news article concerning a listening device installed in the
home of a couple with a missing baby.  Yet, Mz Reno refused to order one for
an issue concerning national security.  Now that's figures!  It just seems
ridiculous for Nixon to resign and Clinton not to even apologize.  He did
have to return some of the money, I believe, at least some that he was
caught with "red-handed" (no pun intended).
Amelia

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 In a message dated 09/11/1999 7:10:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   PicturePicture: To appreciate the hugeness of Reno's
accomplishment,
 hearken
   back to the Reagan Justice Department. Meese was under investigation.
DOJ
   inquiries into other Reagan officials were suspect. The department was
   mistrusted, a national disgrace. 

 Now how can they say this.  Everywhere Meese goes, he is treated
beautifully.
  He appears on all the Sunday shows from time to time, and they all act as
 though he was not a crook who had to be pardoned.  In fact they act that
way
 to all the other creeps who were in the Reagan and Bush cabinets,
especially
 the ones who had to be pardoned.  It's a simple lesson they're trying to
 teach:  Democrat crooks - BAD; Republican crooks - GOOD.   Okay?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] PBS PREZ RESIGNS

1999-09-12 Thread Amelia K Edgeman

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I will agree that PBS viewers are probably more liberal but definitely NOT
more intelligent!  Funding does not for intelligence make--see Public
Schools.  I have seen some very poorly "documented" documentaries, etc. on
PBS.  Guess this, too, is in the eye of the beholder.
AKE

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  The BOSTON GLOBE is reporting on Friday that an inspector
  general's report looking into the Public Broadcasting System's
  donor list controversy has concluded that only one party benefitted
  from the list giveaway -- the Democratic Party.
  The report, released Thursday, concluded that out of 183 public TV
  and 408 public radio stations, 53 of them, or 9%, made their lists
  available to political groups. 

 This is so funny.  Why hasn't it occurred to anyone that PBS like any
other
 outfit that sells its donor lists can only sell to someone who offers to
buy
 it.  Most people who watch and donate to PBS are rather intelligent
 (therefore liberal?).  If they are Democrats, so be it.  The Republican
Party
 obviously didn't offer to buy the list and probably wouldn't have wasted
 postage money sending it out.  What a crock this all is.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Coping with Africa's Aids disaster

1999-09-12 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_444000/444974.stm

"Southern Africa is now at the epicentre of new infections. Almost a
quarter of adults in Botswana, Namibia, Swaziland and Zimbabwe are HIV
positive and in South Africa there are an estimated 1,500 new infections
every day."

These are alarming figures.

Hilary



Sunday, September 12, 1999 Published at 14:20 GMT 15:20 UK

Coping with Africa's Aids disaster

Aids has run rampant on the continent

An international conference on Aids has opened in the Zambian capital
Lusaka to discuss how to contain the further spread of the HIV virus, which
has become the continent's number one killer.

Thousands of people in Africa become infected with HIV every day, and the
continent is home to two-thirds of the global population of those infected
with the virus.

The impact on African economies and society has been devastating.

The top UN Aids campaigner, in Zambia to attend the conference, said the
world community had failed to mobilise to fight the disease.

Dr Peter Piot, executive director of the UN Aids agency, said half of all
newborn babies in Africa carry the HIV virus that leads to Aids.

"Aids is cutting productivity of companies, far too many people are too
sick to work, Africa's middle class is being decimated," Mr Piot told
Reuters news agency.

He said that while Western powers had found the will to deal with crises
like that in Kosovo, they had made no attempt to respond in the same way to
Aids.

The World Health Organisation's director for Africa, Ibrahim Samba, said
the disease should be declared a global disaster.

African leaders absent

Several thousand delegates at the Lusaka conference will discuss ways of
caring for those who are already HIV positive and containing the further
spread of the disease.

The main strategy under discussion is changing people's sexual behaviour to
protect those who are yet to be infected, and lobbying for cheaper drugs
that can turn Aids from a death sentence into a chronic but survivable
disease.

Since the Aids epidemic began, 34 million Africans have been infected with
HIV and almost 12 million have already died.

Southern Africa is now at the epicentre of new infections. Almost a quarter
of adults in Botswana, Namibia, Swaziland and Zimbabwe are HIV positive and
in South Africa there are an estimated 1,500 new infections every day.

There is some evidence that HIV infection rates are dropping in countries
like Uganda where national health education campaigns, political support
and increased awareness of the disease have helped.

But BBC correspondent Greg Barrow, who is in Lusaka, says that despite the
huge problems of Aids on the continent, not a single African head of state
attended the opening ceremony.

He says that, of all the speeches at the opening ceremony, it was one
delivered by an eight-year-old Zambian girl which was the most poignant:

"My best friend will turn eight next month ... Her father will not be there
to help her blow out her birthday candles. Her mother will not be there to
help her cut her birthday cake.

"They both died from Aids last year."

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[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] Balkanization of Cults HYPOTHETICAL/undocumented

1999-09-12 Thread Kris Millegan





This seemed like a good way to create centralized thought control.

1. Create lots of new cults revive old ones   eg Wicca 1951
2. Make each new "religion" believe only they have the correct answers
3  Discourage all old established religions
4  Try to subdivide old existing religions with NEWTHOUGHT
   eg.  Algores  Church of St. John the divine (Christa worship)
5. Grant special status to non-political cults or religions (501c3 IRS)
6. Encourage and infiltrate all new cults.  eg Solar Temple  Heavens Gate
7. Create the idea that central authority is the arbitrator of cult disputes.
8. Create new movements  eg save the whales, save the spotted owls etc.
9. Revive nature worship -This takes into a material realm-
10.Directly fund a give special status to new movements  eg Siera Club/UN
What this would  do is bring  thought control in to realm of
direct government control by disallowing the idea that there is anything
"above" man.  It would also by human nature create endless
disputes between the various sects of the existing religions and the new
cults.   It's a divide and conquer senario where all thought could ultimately
be controled, and each person would think only they had the
correct answer.



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[CTRL] FLUORIDATED WATER MAY PROVOKE LEAD POISONING

1999-09-12 Thread Sean McDougal

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FLUORIDATED WATER MAY PROVOKE LEAD POISONING

Chemicals commonly used to add fluoride to public drinking water supplies
may make children more susceptible to lead poisoning, a new study suggests.
A study published last month in the "International Journal of Environmental
Studies" found that silicofluorides, added to water supplies to help reduce
tooth decay, are associated with higher absorption of lead. Roger Masters,
emeritus professor of government at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire,
analyzed a survey of over 280,000 Massachusetts children. He and his
colleagues found that lead levels in children's blood was significantly
higher in Massachusetts communities using the silicofluorides fluosilicic
acid and sodium silicofluoride than in towns where water is treated with
sodium fluoride or not fluoridated at all. Children in communities that use
these chemicals were over twice as likely to have over 10 milligrams per
deciliter of blood lead than children in towns that do not use
silicofluorides. Over 90 percent of America's fluoridated drinking water
supplies are treated with silicofluorides. "Virtually all research on
fluoridation safety has focused on sodium fluoride, even though the studies
in the 1930s showed important biological differences between these
chemicals," says Masters. "The correlation with blood levels is especially
serious because lead poisoning is associated with higher rates of learning
disabilities, hyperactivity, substance abuse and crime." The investigators
have also analyzed data from six other states as well as in the National
Health and Nutrition Evaluation Survey. The results, which have not yet been
published, find a correlation between silicofluorides and blood lead levels,
as well as higher rates of violent crime and substance abuse.



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Re: [CTRL] U.S. Studies Religious Persecution

1999-09-12 Thread Amelia K Edgeman

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Is Texas included in their study?
Amelia


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 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19990909/pl/us_religious_persecut
 ion_2.html

 Politics Headlines
 Thursday September 9 5:25 PM ET
 U.S. Studies Religious Persecution
 By GEORGE GEDDA Associated Press Writer
 WASHINGTON (AP) - A State Department report Thursday pointed
 to evidence of widespread religious persecution in Iraq, Iran and
 Afghanistan, all under varying degrees of authoritarian rule, and to
 discrimination in some democratic countries as well, including
 Israel and India.
 The report, covering 194 countries and territories, is the first of what
 will become an annual assessment of the state of religious freedom
 around the world. The most serious violators could eventually face
 economic sanctions.
 The study stressed that religious persecution is not confined to a
 particular faith. ``Throughout the world, Buddhists, Christians,
 Hindus, Jews, Muslims and other believers continue to suffer for
 their faith,'' it said.
 While the report did not rank the countries based on the degree to
 which they limit freedom, the excesses attributed to the Iraqi
 government stood out.
 Iraqi leader ``Saddam Hussein has for decades conducted a brutal
 campaign of murder, summary execution and protracted arbitrary
 detention against the religious leaders and adherents of the Shiite
 Muslim population,'' the report said.
 It said Iraqi security forces ``have murdered senior Shiite clerics,
 desecrated mosques and holy sites, arrested tens of thousands of
 Shiites and forcibly prevented Shiites from practicing their religion.''
 Shiites in Afghanistan also suffered persecution and killing at the
 hands of the Taliban-led government in Kabul. Afghan police
 impose ``severe physical punishment and imprisonment'' for
 deviations from codes of worship and dress,'' the report said.
 It said Iran is intent on eradicating the Baha'is through prolonged
 detention and imprisonment, confiscation and desecration of
 graveyards and holy places. It added that other religious minorities
 in Iran also suffer.
 In general, the report made clear that democratic countries are far
 more tolerant of religious diversity than are countries run by
 totalitarian or authoritarian regimes. The report credits India, for
 example, for respecting constitutional provisions guaranteeing
 freedom of religion.
 But it said, tensions between Muslims and Hindus in India, and to
 a lesser extent between Hindus and Christians, ``continue to pose
 a challenge to the concepts of secularism, tolerance and diversity
 on which the state was founded.'' It added that state and local
 governments only partially respect religious freedom. The report
 also said there have been numerous reports of human rights
 abuses carried out by the mostly Hindu security forces against the
 predominantly Muslim population in the region of Kashmir
 controlled by India.
 As for India's rival, Pakistan, the report said discriminatory
 legislation has encouraged an atmosphere of ``religious
 intolerance, which has led to acts of violence by extremists against
 members of religious minorities, including Christians, Hindus,
 Ahmadis and Zikris.''
 In democratic Israel, the report said the country's 20 percent Arab
 population does not receive the same quality of education, housing,
 employment opportunities and social services as Jews. In addition,
 it said, ``government spending and financial support are
 proportionally far lower in predominantly non-Jewish areas.''
 On China, the report said Chinese citizens can face harassment or
 prolonged detention in labor camps if they practice religion outside
 officially sponsored churches.
 The study also cited credible reports of abuse against Buddhist
 monks and nuns in China, including Tibet.
 In Beijing, a Chinese spokesman rejected the allegations as
 malicious interference.
 ``Nobody has been arrested or detained because of religious
 beliefs,'' Foreign Ministry spokesman Sun Yuxi said. ``If religious
 believers are arrested, it is not because of their religious beliefs but
 because they have taken part in criminal activities.''
 President Clinton is expected to meet this weekend with Chinese
 President Jiang Zemin at the Asia-Pacific summit in Auckland,
 New Zealand.

  Comment:  Now, don't you feel all better because Clinton is
 looking out for your rights?



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[CTRL] sodomite pressure group claims TV is too straight

1999-09-12 Thread Bard

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(see commentary at end of scroll)

GLAAD Demands More On-Air Homosexuals

On the heels of the recent complaint from the National Association for the
Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) that prime-time television programming
is "too white," the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) has
complained that the world as depicted in television entertainment is too
straight — the presence of 28 homosexual, bisexual, or "transgender"
characters in the fall lineup notwithstanding.

"The group is disappointed that most of the characters are white males, who
are gay in name only and have only minor, recurring roles — usually as the
butt of jokes, or to provide comic relief," reported the Conservative News
Service on August 24th. "The only gay lead on prime-time television is the
character Will Truman of NBC’s ‘Will  Grace.’" "If Will Truman doesn’t have
a date on ‘Will  Grace’ this season, then the network has failed to
realistically deliver that sitcom’s premise of the life of a gay man,"
complained GLAAD spokesman Scott Seomin. "With over 540 lead or supporting
characters on prime time this fall, the gay community encompasses less than
2 percent of the total portrayals."

Accepting for the purpose of discussion the curious notion that prime-time
television is intended to offer a "realistic" portrayal of society, it
should be noted that homosexuals constitute something less than 2 percent of
the population, meaning that the networks have gotten the numbers about
right. However, a realistic portrayal of "gay" life would require immersion
in its pathologies — disease, violence, relentless promiscuity, and
premature death. What GLAAD seeks is a glamorized, politically useful
portrayal of homosexuality, and Hollywood will no doubt seek to placate the
sodomite pressure group.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/09-27-99/vo15no20_insider.htm


THE NEW AMERICAN
(An Affiliated Publication of the
John Birch Society)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/

The John Birch Society
http://www.jbs.org/

Since 1958, members of The John Birch Society have led the movement to
restore and preserve freedom under the U.S. Constitution. Using educational
and publicity campaign tools, members of The John Birch Society have shaped
and altered public policy through education and activism.

The membership of The John Birch Society is comprised of thousands of
Americans from all walks of life.
Our common bond is a love for liberty and our rejection of totalitarianism
in any form.

Folks,  Pass this along and encourage your contacts
to visit the above two Sites.
And people keep wondering what's wrong with our
children.
It's high time you, the parents, shaped the cultural values
of your children rather than the Marxists in the
government schools and the entertainment industry.
Are you, yourselves, so ignorant that you don't
understand what the lefties in the entertainment
industry are trying to achieve?

Take responsibility for you Children and
stop dumping them into the cesspool created
by the godless Socialists.

You can wax on about freedom.
You can whine about government rules.
But the only way to change the way things are is to take action
against the Tyranny traipsing all over American lives.

Bard

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [MC] Balkanization of Cults HYPOTHETICAL/undoc...

1999-09-12 Thread Aol user

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The best book on this topic, the new age/new world order inroad into
Christianity, is "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow", Constance Cumbey,
Huntington House.  It was written in the early or mid-l980's.

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[CTRL] FW: [piml] FW: SWEENEY Press Release

1999-09-12 Thread Bard



FYI
teddiebear needs your support

Bard

-Original Message-From: Teddie 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 
12:53 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [piml] 
FW: SWEENEY Press Release
Dear Bard,
 I have sent this on to many 
in my mailing list. My cousin spent five years in that prison 
system.Massachusetts has the most corrupted officials of any state I 
have ever lived in. they will railraod you when and if they can and stack the 
deck against you if they can get away with it. With all the liberals in that 
state you'd think that that wouldn't be the case, but it is. My cousin, no 
previous record of anything, gave a customer from his tavern a ride home, 
and he got busted for loitering for drugs, and never did drugs and didn'tknow 
the man he gave a ride home . The man had been busted and needed to 
get 10- people busted so my cousin was set up by being offered a 
very expensive ring in exchange for the ride in a snow storm. He was a young man 
with everything to live for and now is marked for life with this on his record. 
YHVH sees all and one day. JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL. amen. 
teddiebear...

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  Press Release
  
  -Original Message-From: Shadow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 4:57 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  SWEENEY Press Release
  
  
  
  
  PRESS 
  RELEASE
  
  John and Rhetta 
  Sweeney
  Hamilton, Massachusetts USA
  http://www.qui-tam.com 

  
  Subject: John 
  Sweeney--Political Prisoner!
  
  
  11 September 
  1999
  
  
  
  
  JOHN SWEENEY SENTENCED TO 
  SERVE 120 DAYS IN PRISON!HE IS CURRENTLY BEING HELD AT THE PLYMOUTH 
  (Massachusetts) COUNTY CORRECTIONAL FACILITY AWAITING ASSIGNMENT TO A FEDERAL 
  PRISON!The conviction appeal is moving forward as scheduled.He 
  is a political prisoner today; for reasons that he has the courage to stand up 
  for his Constitutional Rights.In addition to sentencing him to 120 
  days in Jail, he was ordered to remain in Massachusetts under virtual house 
  arrest, only allowed to leave by approval of the Judge and after submitting a 
  detailed itinerary as to what he is doing, who he is meeting with , where, 
  when etc.Although the sentence was stayed pending an appeal, John 
  Sweeney self-surrendered to the federal court and U. S. Marshals on Monday, 
  August 23, 1999.John and Rhetta are continuing their work in 
  Washington D.C. Rather than remain indefinitely as a political prisoner in 
  Massachusetts, and being forced to submit names and details of their 
  Congressional work and support base, John has chosen to serve the court 
  ordered time in prison while Rhetta pursues the Congressional work in 
  Washington.
  
  The SWEENEY "On 
  Behalf of the People" Website is located at
  http://www.qui-tam.com 

  
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[CTRL] Austin radio station talk show host Alex Jones

1999-09-12 Thread Bard

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MONDAY
FEBRUARY 15
1999


ARMED AND DANGEROUS
Fear and loathing
in Kingsville, Texas
Local residents fuming
over Army live-fire exercise




By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

A group of Kingsville, Texas, citizens now plan to pursue action against
their city for permitting the Army to use live ammunition during an exercise
in their town known as Operation Last Dance.
Angry citizens are expected to crowd the next city council and county
commission meetings, both scheduled to be held Feb. 22. At least one citizen
is looking into legal action.
Back door to building blasted open.

Some residents said they were terrified when helicopters swooped into town
from the Army Special Operations Command, Ft. Bragg, North Carolina, last
Monday night. One helicopter hit a telephone pole, which started a fire and
horrified residents who saw it happen.

At least eight helicopters are reported to have participated in an assault
exercise using live ammunition and explosives very close to innocent
bystanders who were not warned of the planned action.

Fire officials confirmed that they responded to the resulting fire, but had
no warning that the exercise would take place. They were also summoned to
put out a building fire caused by explosions set off during the exercise.

It has since been learned from military sources that the actual group
involved in the exercise is known as the Knight Stalkers, an elite group
from the Delta Force. They are trained to conduct assassination missions,
according to several retired military officers who had served in various
special operations assignments.

The Army Special Operations Command at Ft. Bragg, North Carolina, has
acknowledged that the event was the kick-off of a series of similar training
operations going on in Kingsville, Corpus Christi and Fort Sam Houston, but
would not confirm that the group was the Knight Stalkers. Additional
training events have been confirmed in the area.

Austin radio station talk show host Alex Jones went to Kingsville to
investigate for WorldNetDaily. He arrived just in time to find work crews
covering up the evidence of the extensive damage caused by the exercise.

A former police station and an old Exxon office building were nearly
destroyed. Evidence of bullet holes in walls, explosions from grenades, and
other explosive charges could be seen. Fire damage was also extensive in at
least one of the buildings.


Lt. Judy Hayes, 3rd in command at Kingsville Police Department
"There was a joint training session between the United States Army and the
Kingsville Police Department," Lt. Judy Hayes, third in command at the
Kingsville police told Jones.

"The Army was doing some sort of extraction type thing. They used eight
helicopters. Our training involved sealing off the area, as if we were
involved in taking care of a hazardous materials type incident. We were
rerouting traffic and making sure there was no civilian foot traffic in the
area. So we got quite a bit of training in that area.

"The only participation on the part of the Kingsville Police Department was
in a hazardous materials training session. We did not participate in any way
with what the Army was doing," insisted Hayes.

Throughout the interview with Jones, two men in black SWAT team uniforms
stood behind her. Jones believes it was an attempt to intimidate him.

The Kingsville Fire Department was not given notice of the exercise, and it
was not invited to participate in the alleged hazardous materials training,
even though it would be called in if there were a real even of that kind.

The fire department spokesman claimed officials were not aware of the event
until they were called to respond to the telephone pole fire and the fire at
the former police station.

An elderly lady who lives in an apartment across from where the exercise
took place told Jones that she was frightened to death and crying. She was
sitting on a bench in full view of the area where the helicopters first
appeared and where all the shooting took place.

"I sit on the bench, and then I get scared because the noise. It was so
terrible and too loud, you know. They were throwing some bombs. I think they
were using some rifles too, and the other kind of rifles that go pop, pop,
pop, pop, pop, you know," said the elderly woman, identified only as Gracie.

She described seeing many black helicopters with men in black coming out of
them. She heard explosions and apparently machine gun fire. She said it
lasted at least two hours.

"I was so scared I went back to my apartment, but I could still hear the
noise," Gracie said. She said she was so scared that she cried and her heart
hurt. She said no one warned her or came to tell her what was going on.

Business owners are also complaining. The police claim they warned
businesses in the area 

[CTRL] Lest We Forget! [we won't forget, Vic]

1999-09-12 Thread Bard

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Dear Austin,
Here is a list of the names of the boys, from Austin, who died in Vietnam,
just a scant 20 years ago.   I typed each one individually since you have to
do a search on the  http://thewall-usa.com/  page.  I hope I got em all - I
double checked.  Couldn't believe there was so many.  Austin was much
smaller, then - sure is to many names.  Too many moms and dads with dead
sons;  to many dead brothers and sisters.  To many, to many.  When I was
stationed in Guam during the war, I had to standby on fire watch  when the
daily C-141 transport plane brought the wounded (80 per plane) to the Naval
Hospital.  Daily for 28 months.   We would stand by for the hour or so, as
naval personnel off loaded stretchers on to buses, rigged to hold litters.
Some of the injured still had their boots on, mud caked in the cleats.  They
moved them out fast.  Some of the injuries of these 19 year olds were
apparent due to the lack of a swell under the blue wool blanket, where their
legs were.   I am 53 years old and I can't hardly see this page cause I am
balling like a baby.  Read their names.  Read them for their moms and dads,
their brothers and sisters; read them for America and Austin.

Sincerely
Vic Vreeland
Retired E-9 Chief Master Sergant, USAFR Retired

Folks, If you wish to see the result of all
the work Vic went to, kindly go to:
http://www.infowars.com/austinviet.html

also, why not pay a visit to The Wall?

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There are a lot more things you can do!
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Why I Will Never Pay Income Taxes
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Listen to it closely, Folks, as its reverbation
is slowly being muzzled by the forces of Tyranny.

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Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: KGB JFK assassination

1999-09-12 Thread Tenorlove

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This is the first post by Mr. Sutton that I've seen that does not have
one of his book titles in it. Am I onto a scoop? -- Is this the subject
of Mr. Sutton's NEXT book, as yet untitled?

Tenorlove,
who will have to resort to writing fiction to get her pet theory to
work.


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 Of course you can look at this another way...that CIA added some
 extra
 disinformation documents to the original Mitrokhiv archives... they
 both
 lplayed the same game. And Risen should know that. After all he
 works for
 NEW YORK TIMES with the motto "all the news that fits"..

 Why name bit player Hunt?   Why not  George de Mohrenschildt, a
 Russian
 friend of  George W Bush.Jr. and the Texas oil crowd  with all kinds
 of
 verifiable links to JFK assassination...

 Of course you can play this game two ways.  If you spot the deception
 you can
 identify the focus of interest, and if you know the focus of
 interest..and so it goes.

 ANTONY SUTTON.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [MC] Balkanization of Cults HYPOTHETICAL/undoc...

1999-09-12 Thread Tenorlove

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Let me add to the book list:

Marrs, Texe. Dark Secrets of the New Age. Crossway Books, 1987
Hunt, Dave. America: the Socerer's New Apprentice. Harvest House, 1988

Cumbey's book was published in 1983.

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 "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow", Constance Cumbey,
 Huntington House.  It was written in the early or mid-l980's.

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[CTRL] Secret Waco Ballistics Tests May Back Sensational Video

1999-09-12 Thread Dan S

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From http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/9/12/113207
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Sunday September 12, 12:39 PM

Secret Waco Ballistics Tests May Back Sensational Video

Chief House Waco prober Dan Burton (R-IN) said Sunday that he has turned
over videotape shot during the government's final April 19 assault on the
Branch Davidian compound to technical experts who will determine whether the
film shows federal forces shooting into the building.

For six years the FBI and Justice Department have staunchly denied they
fired gunshots into the compound on the day the Davidian's Mt. Carmel church
burned to the ground.

But ballistics evidence that could confirm charges federal forces shot and
killed a number of Mt. Carmel residents has been witheld by the government
for years, according to at least one local Texas law enforcement official.

Burton told Fox News Sunday's Tony Snow that the expert video analysis is
currently ongoing:

SNOW: You have received some film from Michael McNulty who was on our
program last week. He's done a documentary on Waco and is about to release
another one. He purports that, that film shows definitively that FBI agents,
or federal agents, fired on the Branch Davidian compound. You and your staff
have looked at that film. Does it in fact show that definitively?

BURTON: We need to look at that through the eyes of experts. I'm having
those tapes analyzed by two different experts right now. We're going to try
to find out as clearly as possible whether or not there was either the
military involved or the FBI involved in firing into that compound. And so I
don't think I can make a comment on that right now because the experts
haven't given us their judgement.

But on Friday, one of four McClennan County, Texas justices who ordered
autopsies for the Branch Davidian victims told the Waco Tribune-Herald that
the FBI witheld key ballistics test evidence that could confirm charges they
were killed by government gunfire.

"The thing that always stayed in my mind was if they were afraid some of the
ordinance or ballistics could be matched up with their weaponry," Justice of
the Peace David Pareya told the paper.

Because the government would not release those tests results, the cause of
death for many Davidians was officially recorded as unknown, the McClennan
County official said.

Survivors of the final Mt. Carmel assault charge that government forces
fired into the compound and are ultimately responsible for the gunshot
deaths.

Tarrant County, Texas coroner Nizam Peerwani determined that 23 Davidians
died from gunshot wounds. The Clinton Justice Department has claimed that
Mount Carmel residents died by their own hands. In a Rose Garden press
conference the day after the Waco massacre, President Clinton asserted that
the Davidians "murdered themselves."

But Dr. Peerwani said on Friday, "There is the feeling that one should go
back and re-evaluate."

The autopsy results of at least one of Peerwani's examinations has been
challeged since he released his initial findings.

Evidence noted by the Tarrant County coroner suggests that the death of
Branch Davidian victim Winston Blake was caused by friendly fire. Gunpowder
burns Peerwani found on Blake's skull indicate he was shot at close range.
Blake was shot during the initial Feb. 28 BATF assault on Mt. Carmel.

Blake's case was covered by Dick Reavis for his 1995 book, "The Ashes of
Waco: An Investigation."

Less than five months after his death, Blake's family, who lived in
Manchester, England, had his body sent home for a second autopsy.

The Manchester Police Department physician retained by relatives disputed
the presence of powder burns on Blake's skull. He concluded in his autopsy
report:

"This injury had probably been caused by a destabilized high velocity rifle
bullet of relatively low weight. This missile had probably been destabilized
so as to cause it to yaw in flight prior to striking the victim. Such
destabilization could have been achieved if the bullet had previously passed
through a light screening cover, such as the light-weight material reported
to have been used in the construction of the (Mt. Carmel) building walls."

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Re: [CTRL] [MC] MORE Send/Love Fish Info

1999-09-12 Thread Jabr 333

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About the fish thing -- these may not be actual fishes.  They are more
leeche-worm-eel like -- and when they die they are dark black, like tar.  And
I may have something wrong about the fishing expeditions/systems itself here,
but I think not.  You have heard of men saying to women or pimps saying about
prostitutes -- "selling their wares?"  -- This ain't just sex.  It is these
special animals.  And, I go further -- a portion of the U.S. is set up, esp.
women, with implants that bring in these animals.   These dead send fishes
are all over NYC streets -- and scattered by the hundreds throughout the NYC
subway system's walkways.  This is NOT tar.  There is NO tar in the subway
system areas -- all walks are cement.  There is no tar in the subway tunnels
-- they are wood and dirt and cement.  There is NO tar in the subway cars.
These tar baby things are ALL OVER the sidewalks of Manhattan. All over
them...they are NOT tar.  Try scraping one of them up -- it is not the least
bit like tar. ANd it is not chewing gum.  Which years ago I though it might
be. It simply is not.  Scraping any of them off the street will tell you
this.  I had a police officer confirm that these black things were "love
fish" -- he knew.  I believe, cause I have caught 4 of them -- and have felt
the sends off of these things -- that people literally are using these to get
by and get good jobs done at doctor's offices, etc.  Carrying one of these
around makes life around you much nicer -- cause of the sends they put off.
Where do they come from?  Some people, not everyone, are set-up for the
catching of these.  The implants in body draw in the animals -- and these
people seem ot have, I know it sound weird, but wind-tunnels which are
invisible to naked eye around em.  In these tunnels these animals seem to
live -- almost like glass fish -- see though, until they are caught -- then
they take on color.  I also believe that people have been used in these
stranger-than-life stories for literally centuries -- the implants used for a
long long time.  And the animals fishing stuff is what many prostitutes are
set-up with -- the johns own them.  It is amazing to see these fishes come
alive off the frequency draws too -- amazing.  Because the catching is really
something to behond. The fishes show in a flash -- and with a strange
pancake-like face on them.  This really is a real event -- not imagined.  The
evidence of the fishes' existance is all around you now too -- look at these
tar babies.  I am photographing this stuff in Manhattan now and NJ.  The
pimps know this, that the sex trade actually IS about selling these creatures
from the deep.  Ask a pimp (you know what they look like -- the well dressed,
thick haired men...Italian a lot of them) -- to show you how they catch the
send or love fish.  Ask him if you pay him, if he has any for sale.  Pretend
you know what you are talking about -- if he says yes, ask the price, ask to
see it, and ask him how to care for it.  He won't be able to show you how
they are caught unless he has a mind control implant victim nearby -- to
catch the fish off of.  THis is part of the underground workings -- girl.  It
is considered pretty seedy stuff by many people.  But there is a whole
cottage industry working about the procurement and use of these strange
animals.  And as I said the evidence of these things being real is on the
sidewalk.

About eugenics -- there are specialized crime groups -- called curmudgeons --
who often carry out implanting people who may become targeted for various
reasons.  Once implanted, cults they begin working the victims over with mind
control programming -- often in an effort to own the person.  The
curmudgeon's may work for Freemasons in communities who are targeting
particular people for elimination or torture or use in the satanic cult
protocols.  The curmudgeons also handle tracking and following people set-up
as nets for the fishing stories -- and the curmudgeons can make their money
through getting the selling the love fish.  City officials and police may be
making money on these victims and many victims are owned by pimps.  These
curmudgeon couples are recognizable -- rather homely -- often huge eyes --
they may not even be married.  They are tied into the workings of the sex
trade and love fish trade.  They can track and follow mind control implanted
slaves/victims for long periods.

Judith ABR






In a message dated 9/6/99 12:24:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Subj: Re: [MC] Re: GI Cop/Paramilitary/MC
 Date:  9/6/99 12:24:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lyn Milnes)
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thank you for your comments, Judith, but I have nothing further to add.

 A lot of what you say rings true to me, including your current remark about
 eugenics.

 I am baffled by the fish thing you mention, though, and I suspect it may
 switch people who read your comments off, because it is SO strange to them.

[CTRL] Shirley Allen ought not pay a dime.

1999-09-12 Thread Bard

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Psychiatry for Dummies
By Me
Posted November 20, 1997

Let's say Barnes  Noble sent you a book you didn't order. Call it
Psychiatry for Dummies. It cost $23.95.

You wouldn't have to pay for that book. The law would be on your side when
you refused.

Now, let's say a friend ordered a copy of Psychiatry for Dummies and had the
book and the bill sent to you.

You still wouldn't have to pay for it. Nope. Not a cent.

Finally, let's say your friend decided you really, really, really, really
needed a copy of Psychiatry for Dummies, because...well...because your
friend thinks you're a dummy and you need psychiatric help. So this friend,
in order to "help" you, gets together with executives at Barnes  Noble and
forges a decision at the highest levels of the company that you must have a
copy of Psychiatry for Dummies. Or else.

"For your own good, do you hear?!! And if you try to send it back, we'll
force you to take it! And you'll pay the bill, whether you like it or not!"

Would you have to pay? Of course not. Never. Your friend (Do you really need
friends like this?) would get stuck with the cost. Or Barnes  Noble would
eat it. But there's not a court in the land that would inflict the bill upon
you.

So why the hell is poor Shirley Allen -- tortured for 39 days before being
dragged off to a psychiatric hospital where she patently doesn't want to
be -- now being told she must pay the bill for her own incarceration?

She shouldn't have to pay it, even if it were $23.95. She shouldn't have to
pay it even if she actually got some sort of treatment (which she is, bless
her heart, refusing). She didn't order it. She doesn't want it. Case closed.

That this brave woman -- who has no health insurance -- is being told she
must pay $500 to $1,000 per day for being kept prisoner against her will is
the most damnable, wretched flipping-on-its-head of justice in this whole
unjust business. Hell, Ted Bundy didn't have to pay for his own
incarceration! Charles Manson is living free off the state of California!
And they're guilty of something. But Shirley?

Shirley Allen ought not pay a dime.

Nor should the taxpayers of Illinois, already stuck with a million dollar
bill for a siege they didn't order and didn't endorse. Nor should any other
innocent party.

If you apply the same standards to this bill as to any other, then it's
perfectly obvious who should pay for the "service" currently being rendered
unto Shirley Allen.

The relatives who ordered this treatment "for Shirley's own good" should get
the largest share of the bill. Let them pay at least 3/4 of the cost, for
having provided Shirley with the unwanted service. Next comes the judge who
processed their order. And the local, then the state police. Mr. Gainer, pay
your share! And how about the psychiatrists who serve at the pleasure of the
state? Empty your pockets, boys  girls. This one's on YOU.

But that isn't going to happen. And in the meantime, it could take as little
as 200 days -- just over half a year -- for this "helping system" to devour
everything a self-reliant woman and her husband worked for all their lives.
That doesn't even count the legal bills, which Shirley also has to pay. Just
the hospitalization. Two hundred days to turn a woman from an independent
human being into a piece of social baggage.And these bastards -- knowing
that -- are still looking into the cameras and claiming that the destruction
they have wrought is good.

Since the busybodies (and busybodies with guns) who set this outrage in
motion are not going to pay, let's you and I, please, put our money where
our mouths are for Shirley Allen.

(As of December 8) There are now two funds for Shirley.

Money for the Shirley Allen Human Rights Fund, managed by Allen's guardian,
can be sent to:
First National Bank
P.O. Box 19264
Springfield, Ill. 62794

Donations to the privately managed Shirley Allen Defense Fund can be sent
to:
First Trust and Savings Bank
P.O. Box 350
Taylorville, Ill. 62568

This second fund is devoted to purchasing an independent mental health
evaluation for Allen.

Don't let the bastards grind Shirley Allen down! If the meddlers who did
this to her aren't going to pay, at least don't let them stick Shirley with
the bill.

CW

20 November, 1997
http://www.curleywolfe.net/cw/RA_971120.shtml

Bard

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[CTRL] DRY TEARS by Scottie

1999-09-12 Thread Bard

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Red poppies blowing in the wind,
across fields in far off land..

White markers all in rows, straightly standing,
among emerald lawns, and cobbled paths..

Again, once more they stand, shoulder to shoulder,
hand to hand, defending all shores of man..

Bitter cold, rain wind nor snow, summer heat,
can their bodies feel, from beneath, they rest..

Called to go and serve, do there best,
duty done, long ago, time is done..

To weep for all eternity would take,
honor their memory, put to rest our fears..

To cry for all would drain mind and soul,
pray on bent knee, if you will..

Safely now they lie, they have earned the rest,
so for them cry only Dry Tears..

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #3

1999-09-12 Thread ric carter
be the winter of ecumenism."
  http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,115008323,00.html

: Does your belief system have specific doctrines on co-existence? Do these
doctrines differentiate between individuals, sects, faiths, all humanity??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Witch-O-Rama:

@ Wicca Pagan Satanic Links: http://www.witchery.com/lynx.html
@ Wicca (Neopagan) Witchcraft  Mind Control:
  http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~jkh8x/soc257/nrms/wicca.html
@ Cult Group Controversies: The Brainwashing Controversy:
  http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~jkh8x/soc257/cultsect/brainwashing.htm
@ Totalism in Today's Cults - Brainwashing - Thought Control:
  http://www.reveal.org/library/psych/totalism.html
@ Why Do People Join NRMs?: Social Science Models:
  http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~jkh8x/soc257/lectures/join_ssm.html

: Will Wicca become more prominent in the news as Halloween approaches? Will
Xian demagogues try to link Wicca, Satanism, cults, MC? Will they succeed?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# Afghan Taliban Deny Persecuting Minority Shi'ites:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990912/pl/afghan_usa_1.html
# Afghan Taliban Criticized for Women Abuse: UN
  search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990912/V000341-091299-idx.html
# Sunni Muslim Leader Shot Dead In Karachi:
  http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9909/12/pakistan.religious.ap/index.html
# Indian PM Says U.S. Religion Survey Unacceptable:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990912/pl/india_usa_1.html
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Re: [CTRL] [MC] MORE Send/Love Fish Info

1999-09-12 Thread Dan S

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"Goodfellas" is coming on tonight on CBS, Judith..

- Original Message -
From: Jabr 333 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 catch the fish off of.  THis is part of the underground workings -- girl.
It

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Re: [CTRL] [prj] Rothschild/Economist; militas/weapons; Ft. Knox audit?

1999-09-12 Thread Lloyd Miller

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Evelyn Rothschild ran the Economist for many years...whether he was the
publisher or not, I know not.   Whether he still runs it, I know not.
"Publisher" is a technicality.  Evelyn
Rothschild's position at the Economist was well known public information.
Not a secret.
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Subject: [prj] Rothschild/Economist; militas/weapons; Ft. Knox audit?


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I told someone that one of the Rothschilds published
The Economist magazine, and they told me, no, it was
someone named Pearson.  Does anyone know for sure who
publishes The Economist?  I recall being told on this
list that it was one of the Rothschilds...

OK, what was the deal about that milita article where
they had chemical weapons and nuclear weapons?  Any
opinions on that?  Are these people for real or are
they just agents of the govenrment?

And I recently saw part of a documentary on Ft. Knox
on The Discovery Channel.  The program showed a clip
of Phlip Crane in 1974, and he seemed to be satisfied
that there was gold in Ft. Knox.  The program also
claimed that there was an audit of Ft. Knox in 1996,
the result being that the U.S government claims Ft.
Knox holds $56 billion in gold.  Does anyone here
think the U.S. government has lied about the audit
(whether it be in regard to the audit taking place or
the just in regard to the amount of gold they said was
there) and if so, why?
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[CTRL] COINCIDENCES AT WACO

1999-09-12 Thread Dan S

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From The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com)
-
COINCIDENCES AT WACO
Editorial

By Marvin Lee

I guess it is just one of those little coincidences we have grown accustomed
to  during  the  Clinton Era. The medical examiner in whose office  someone
accidentally  "pulled  the  plug"  on  the cooling in the room where the
bodies of the Branch Davidians were being kept -- causing their bodies to
liquefy and preventing  any sequent  autopsy -- is the same medical examiner
who performed the autopsy of Whitewater witness Jim McDougal after his death
in federal prison last year.

The Washington  Weekly  had  difficulty  obtaining  the  McDougal autopsy
report  from  Chief  Medical  Examiner  Nizam Peerwani's office at the time.
At first we were told such reports take "four to  six  weeks" to complete.
An April 30, 1998 press release from
Chief Medical Examiner Nizam Peerwani actually  referred  to  "an autopsy
report released yesterday in Fort Worth." The office did, in fact, not
complete or  release  the  McDougal  autopsy  report until June 22, 1998,
three and one half months after the death of
McDougal. The report cleared  federal  officials  of  charges  by other
inmates  of  wrongdoing  in  the  death, and attributed it instead to
"hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease."

Another coincidence is that one of  the  chief  planners  of  the February
28,  1993  BATF  raid  on the Branch Davidians was Bill Clinton's personal
friend William Buford.  As  Special  Agent  in Charge  of Little Rock BATF,
Buford was also responsible for Mena Airport, where he failed to investigate
charges of  gun  running. When   one   of  his  employees  asked  Buford  to
authorize  an investigation of Mena, Buford said that he  would  authorize
the investigation,  but warned him that several "BATF agents had lost their
jobs" as a result of  Mena  Airport,  according  to  former police officer
Russell Welch of Mena.

But of course these coincidences must be, as everything else with the
Clinton administration, perfectly innocent.

Published in the Sep. 13, 1999 issue of The Washington Weekly
Copyright 1999 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com)
Reposting permitted with this message intact

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Re: [CTRL] [prj] Rothschild/Economist; militas/weapons; Ft. Knox ...

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426

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re FORT KNOX GOLD

I think the problem is that the Fort Knox gold stock is not "good delivery"
gold.  The stock is  "coin melt" which cannot be sold on the world market
without refining.
This of course is gold from coins seized from the American public in 1933.

Who got the "good delivery" gold? Good question   I dont know..

  THE ECONOMIST is in the Piers Publishing Group, London


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Re: [CTRL] COINCIDENCES AT WACO

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426

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Yes, coioncidences for the sClinton WH and no doubt Danforth will call them
"judgement calls" and as such cannot be included in his  investigation

You and I would  have BATF  Buford and the Medical Examiner Peerwani No #1 on
the witness list.. .



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Re: [CTRL] [prj] Rothschild/Economist; militas/weapons; Ft. Knox ...

1999-09-12 Thread Linda Minor

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

  THE ECONOMIST is in the Piers Publishing Group, London




By the time Eugene Meyer (then owner of the Washington Post) became an
investor in George Bush’s corporation (Bush-Overbey), the American branch of
Lazard Freres was being run by Andre Meyer—who is said to be no relation to
Eugene’s family.  However, like Eugene Meyer's family, Andre also hailed
from Alsace-Lorraine and was the uncle of Michel David-Weill, who worked
with him.   During World War I, according to Andre Meyer’s biographer,  the
"Bank of England forced Lazard to sell the London bank to British interests
[emphasis added]."   The "British interests" nominally owning "Lazard
Brothers", as it is called in the U.K., were the family of Sir Weetman
Pearson (later Lord and then Viscount) Cowdray.

According to author Cary Reich, the London office was a "franchise
operation" of Lazard Freres New York and Paris, run, respectively, by Andre
Meyer and Pierre David-Weill.  Fifty percent (50%) of the ordinary shares of
Lazard Brothers  Co., Ltd. and 80% of preferred shares were owned by
Pearson PLC, as of 1985, which also held 16.2% of the U.S. Lazard Freres 
Co. capital and 9.9% of the profits.  Pearson also controlled 10% of the
French company’s partnership interest in the limited partnership.  In 1981
the chairman of Lazard was Ian Fraser. The Pearson empire—set up as a
foundation when Viscount Cowdray died--also includes 100% ownership of
London's Financial Times and a 50% interest in the Economist.

Source:
Cary Reich, Financier:  The Biography of Andre Meyer (New York:  William
Morrow  Co., Inc., 1983), p. 210.

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[CTRL] CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK NEW YORK CITY

1999-09-12 Thread newsdesk

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BREAKING NEWS U CAN USE : CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK  N.Y.

- If you have family or friends living in New York City, please forward
this Emergecncy Health information to them immediately. Thanks.

CHEMICAL  BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS ATTACK IN NEW YORK CITY
(New York, NY)  Chemical weapons were released in downtown New York
beginning  Friday. Attacks are scheduled to continue through Tuesday and
will not end until all of New York has been exposed to the chemical and
biological weapon. The chemical agent known as MALATHION  has been
responsible for countless deaths, its chromosomal affects on mammalian DNA
are responsible for  grotesque cancers and deformations in all animal and
insect life forms. MALATHION manufactured by corporate pharmaceutical giant
Novartis, is a KILLER! This weekend chemical weapons deployed at the orders
of New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani were released into densely populated
areas, in response to a reported encephalitis epidemic (6 cases) which is
allegedly threatening the health of New York City at large. Mosquitoes are
the target, New York is the victim.

The TRUTH about MALATHION
Malathion:
Weakens the immune system
Is genotoxic: Causes genetic damage/mutation
Has caused injury and death in farmers
Extremely Cancerous
Effects on wildlife: Deaths with bee colonies, crayfish, reptiles. Tumors in
turtles.

Malathion is an organophosphate pesticide attacking the chromosomal DNA and
messenger RNA, and inhibiting natural enzymatic activities, the result
wreaks havoc on the life system and causing illness and death. It is has
been used extensively in Florida effectively controlling fruit flies and
protecting billion dollar citrus crops. However in Florida the rates of
cancer are increasing, as well as increased fetal deformities in Humans,
frogs, alligators. Florida is very sick, but at least they don't have flies.
The ecosystem and food chain are in serious jeopardy.

Coincidentally, conveniently, and profitably pharmaceutical giant Novartis
maker of pesticides such as Malathion and herbicides like Acuron, make most
of their money treating sick Humans. In 1998, Novartis group sales were
$21.8 billion, of which $12 billion were in healthcare, $5.8 billion in
transgenic agribusiness, and $4 billion in consumer health. Again we see the
similarities between Norvartis and Rhone-Poulenc, Inc.: They both
manufacture cancer causing chemicals. They both manufacture questionable,
yet highly profitable cures for diseases, many of which are caused by the
very chemicals they market. And neither of them are even American
corporations  Isn't it good how to see big business and government policy
working together in such harmony? The system call it good business, where I
come from we call it murder in the worse degree.

What to do? Well, it is a little late to protest or write anyone to stop it
such insanity. Malathion is bad enough when used in open agriculture areas,
but in a population center it is unheard of! The American people see big
government and big business will do what they will. Continued local and
nationwide pressure to end the use of these chemical and biological weapons
against the American public and Mother Nature is needed. Of immediate
concern now however, is the health of several million New Yorkers. Granted
when you begin feeling dizzy, you cannot breathe, your muscles ache, your
body grows cancers, and your children are born with tumors and mutations
Novartis and the other conglomerate 'health science' giants will be there
ready to take care of you in one of their comfortable new state of the art
cancer treatment centers and give you their expensive medications and
chemotherapies. The treatments will send you and your family to the poor
house and you will continue feeling bad. You must stay healthy. But how
considering the rate and frequency of chemical attacks your body is being
exposed to?

Good News U Can Use . . .
Earlier this year our research team stumbled upon a revolutionary product.
We have had the privilege of field testing the device in our offices over
the past six months. The device restores the Human body's natural
electrochemical balance on the cellular level. What?  Restores
electrochemical balance? Yes. The body Human is a finely tuned machine,
complete with electronic frequencies and chemical messengers. The natural
electrochemical balance is adversely effected through continuous exposure to
electromagnetic field radiation, commonly called EMF. EMF pollution is
invisible, yet it is everywhere there is electricity. This electronic
pollution emitted from cell phones, computer monitors, televisions, neon
lights, and power lines molecularly modify the natural electrochemical
relationship within each cell of our body. The primary result from this
invisible pollution is a weakened immune system. Restoring the body's normal
electrochemical balance gives the bodies immune system the chance to work at
its optimum ability. It gives your immune system a 

Re: [CTRL] The glorious capitalist free market economic system.

1999-09-12 Thread flw

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NLIHC Releases Annual
Rental Housing Affordability Study
Source: http://www.nlihc.org

Minimum Wage Workers Unable to
Afford Rent Anywhere in Nation

What kind of human being are you really if you can advocate
for this system?
Christians?
Liberals?
Libertarians?
Taxpayers?
Workers?

Joshua2

"Compassionate" hand wringing won't solve the problem. The
problem is that
we live in a Fascistic/ Socialistic / Corporate State. Socialist
Corporate Capitalism
is not free market.

Obviously requires a "12 Step Program" like all remedies to cure
irrational, compulsive
behavior.

Step #1. End mass immigration which lowers the standard of living
for the bottom
wage earners (and maintains the foreign oligarchies by sending us
their dissatisfied
instead of making them stay home and kick ass.)

Step#2. Terminate the Federal Reserve which turns the national
ecomony into a
private capitalistic / socialistic club for the Corporate Elite
and their Politicopathic
Flunkies.

Step#3. End the education monopoly by Government Schools. Teach
kids to read, write
and add instead of teaching them to be Corporate Cogs and Dumb
Compliant Proletariat.

Step#4. (Your Turn).
flw

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[CTRL] UK Spy Scandal-More Spies To Be Named.

1999-09-12 Thread William Shannon

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From The Independent (U.K.)

More spies to be named

By PAUL LASHMAR, YVONNE RIDLEY AND RACHEL SYLVESTER
Up to 12 more Britons recruited into the KGB will be unmasked later this
week. Some are understood to be still alive and living in the UK.

Last night, Professor Christopher Andrew of Cambridge University, the secret
service historian who identified the 87-year-old great-grandmother Melita
Norwood as a Soviet agent, said: "One of those named will be a prominent
public figure who is now dead."

The disclosures will increase pressure on the Government, which is facing
intense criticism for not prosecuting Mrs Norwood, who was unmasked yesterday
as a Soviet spy of 40 years' standing and the KGB's most important catch.
Jack Straw, the Home Secretary, yesterday asked the director general of MI5,
Stephen Lander, to prepare a full report on the case. The Home Office
insisted he had not been involved in the decision not to prosecute.

Earlier this year, John Morris, then Attorney General, had been made aware of
Mrs Norwood's identity, but decided that "it was by then too late to
undertake a prosecution".

At a press conference outside her home yesterday, Mrs Norwood said: "I did
what I did not to make money but to help prevent the defeat of a new system
which had, at great cost, given ordinary people food and fares they could
afford, a good education and a health service." Asked if she regretted her
actions, she said: "No, no, no."

The identity of Mrs Norwood and the other spies is contained in a huge
archive of files brought out of Russia by a defector, Vasili Mitrokhin, in
1992. He smuggled out six trunks of files from the KGB's most secret archive.

According to Professor Andrew, the files identify KGB agents and operations
in virtually every country outside the Communist bloc.

Tom King, the former Tory Secretary of State for Defence, and now chairman of
the Parliamentary Security and Intelligence Committee, said the unmasking of
Mrs Norwood was part of "the most complete and extensive intelligence ever
received from any source". He said that there would be further revelations in
the coming days.

A British intelligence officer agreed yesterday that further major KGB spies
would be revealed. ''There could be up to 12 more names to come out. You have
to spend weeks, sometimes months, painstakingly going through file after file
checking codenames and places then trying to match them with the names of
real people who are either still living or existed."

Some of the files deal with KGB agents in Britain who were active right up to
the end of the Cold War. Mrs Norwood, codenamed "Hola", is herself believed
to have helped to recruit agents for the KGB. In 1967 she allegedly helped
the agency recruit a civil servant who was codenamed "Hunt". Through the
1970s he was a paid agent and provided information on British arms and arms
deals.

The imminent publication of the Mitrokhin archive has sent shockwaves through
Whitehall, with departments rushing to wash their hands of the matter.
Questions will now be asked about how much ministers knew, and whether the
director general of the security services decided not to inform them of the
contents of the archive.

Mr King said his committee would conduct a thorough investigation into the
documents, and also into the handling of the case by both Conservative and
Labour administrations. "Questions need to be asked about who knew what and
why there were no prosecutions," he said.

Michael Howard, Mr Straw's Conservative predecessor, said he had "no
knowledge" of the case. Kenneth Clarke, Home Secretary from 1992 to 1993, and
Kenneth Baker (1990-92) will also be quizzed.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK NEW YORK

1999-09-12 Thread William Shannon





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rumor Mill News is forwarding the following article on the mosquito spraying
in New York City


Subj:CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK NEW YORK
Date:   9/12/1999 2:42:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Millennium Resource Report)
Reply-to:   A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MRR2001 Subscribers)

URGENT NEWS U CAN USE : CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK N.Y.
- If you have family or friends living in New York City, please forward this
Emergecncy Health information to them immediately. Thanks.

CHEMICAL  BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS ATTACK IN NEW YORK CITY
(New York, NY) Chemical weapons were released in downtown New York beginning
Friday. Attacks are scheduled to continue through Tuesday and will not end
until
all of New York has been exposed to the chemical and biological weapon. The
chemical
agent known as MALATHION has been responsible for countless deaths, its
chromosomal
affects on mammalian DNA are responsible for grotesque cancers and
deformations
in all animal and insect life forms. MALATHION manufactured by corporate
pharmaceutical
giant Novartis, is a KILLER! This weekend chemical weapons deployed at the
orders
of New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani were released into densely populated
areas, in response to a reported encephalitis epidemic (6 cases) which is
allegedly
threatening the health of New York City at large. Mosquitoes are the target,
New York is the victim.

The TRUTH about MALATHION
Malathion:
Weakens the immune system
Is genotoxic: Causes genetic damage/mutation
Has caused injury and death in farmers
Extremely Cancerous
Effects on wildlife: Deaths with bee colonies, crayfish, reptiles. Tumors in
turtles.

I would rather take my chances with deadly mosquitoes. Malathion is an
organophosphate
pesticide attacking the chromosomal DNA and messenger RNA, and inhibiting
natural
enzymatic activities, the result wreaks havoc on the life system and causing
illness and death. It is has been used extensively in Florida effectively
controlling
fruit flies and protecting billion dollar citrus crops. However in Florida
the
rates of cancer are increasing, as well as increased fetal deformities in
Humans,
frogs, alligators. Florida is very sick, but at least they don't have flies.
The ecosystem and food chain are in serious jeopardy.

Coincidentally, conveniently, and profitably pharmaceutical giant Novartis
maker
of pesticides such as Malathion and herbicides like Acuron, make most of
their
money treating sick Humans. In 1998, Novartis group sales were $21.8 billion,
of which $12 billion were in healthcare, $5.8 billion in transgenic
agribusiness,
and $4 billion in consumer health. Again we see the similarities between
Norvartis
and Rhone-Poulenc, Inc.: They both manufacture cancer causing chemicals. They
both manufacture questionable, yet highly profitable cures for diseases, many
of which are caused by the very chemicals they market. And neither of them
are
even American corporations Isn't it good how to see big business and
government
policy working together in such harmony? The system call it good business,
where
I come from we call it murder in the worse degree.
What to do? Well, it is a little late to protest or write anyone to stop it
such
insanity. Malathion is bad enough when used in open agriculture areas, but in
a population center it is unheard of! The American people see big government
and big business will do what they will. Continued local and nationwide
pressure
to end the use of these chemical and biological weapons against the American
public and Mother Nature is needed. Of immediate concern now however, is the
health of several million New Yorkers. Granted when you begin feeling dizzy,
you cannot breathe, your muscles ache, your body grows cancers, and your
children
are born with tumors and mutations Novartis and the other conglomerate
'health
science' giants will be there ready to take care of you in one of their
comfortable
new state of the art cancer treatment centers and give you their expensive
medications
and chemotherapies. The treatments will send you and your family to the poor
house and you will continue feeling bad. You must stay healthy. But how
considering
the rate and frequency of chemical attacks your body is being exposed to?
Good News U Can Use . . .
Earlier this year our research team stumbled upon a revolutionary product. We
have had the privilege of field testing the device in our offices over the
past
six months. The device restores the Human body's natural electrochemical
balance
on the cellular level. What? Restores electrochemical balance? Yes. The body
Human is a finely tuned machine, complete with electronic frequencies and
chemical
messengers. The natural electrochemical balance is adversely effected through
continuous exposure to electromagnetic field radiation, commonly called EMF.
EMF pollution is invisible, yet it is everywhere there is electricity. This
electronic
pollution emitted 

Re: [CTRL] Reno: Courageous Cluelessness?

1999-09-12 Thread flw

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  Janet Reno
  The Independent Attorney General.
 
  By David Plotz
  Posted Friday, September 10, 1999, at 9:30 a.m. PT
 
  Attorney General Janet Reno has always been viewed as
the least
  Clintonian member of the Clinton administration. Her boss
believes words are
  deeds and images are action. The self-styled "awkward old
maid," immune to the
  blandishments of Beltway power, is supposedly the beefy
substance of this
  superficial government.

What a stupid, silly article! Reno was a Dade County Corrupt Hack
who was brought to DC
by Hilliary because she was so blackmailable. (The countless
stories of her drunk driving
stops and caught on tape with underage teenage hookers) is
legendary in Fla.The only reason
she passed Senate Confirmation was because the gutless
RepubliCrats were too intimitated
to give the "first female AG" tough scrutiny. (Plus Orin Hatch
was still hanging on a limb
because of his involvement with the BCI scandal.) This in spite
of the fact that the Senate confirmation committee was swamped
with voluntary testimony by many many Fla. cops and lawyers who
wanted to spill the beans on Reno).

Reno is desperate for power. Will do anything to hold on to
power. She cold bloodedly
poison gassed and fried the Waco Kids. Took Fake Responsililty
later after Hubbell, Bill and
Hilliary ordered her to end to standoff ( gave them bad press,
dontchaknow).

She appointed "Independent Counsels" to investigate mostly
minority Cabinet Members
while letting Dirty Bill off the hook on ChinaGate, DonorGate,
FileGate. Ever since that undisclosed "private meeting" between
her and Dirty Bill right after he got himself reelected,
she has been his number #1 Block and Tackle.

Reno is a sick, venal, corrupt murderer.
She is Dirty Bill's Himmler.
flw

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Re: [CTRL] Reno: Courageous Cluelessness?

1999-09-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 09/12/1999 1:13:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jocelyn Elders brought it on herself--didn't know when to keep her yap
shut. 

There wasn't a darned thing wrong with what Jocelyn Elders said.  If Clinton
had had any guts at all, she would still be in the job.  I have never figured
out why he didn't tell the entire country to take a hike.   Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] PBS PREZ RESIGNS

1999-09-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 09/12/1999 12:52:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I will agree that PBS viewers are probably more liberal but definitely NOT
 more intelligent!  Funding does not for intelligence make--see Public
 Schools.  I have seen some very poorly "documented" documentaries, etc. on
 PBS.  Guess this, too, is in the eye of the beholder. 

And I agree about the poorly documented documentaries.  It wasn't that way in
the old days (before Prez Reagan pulled the teeth of PBS), but now that big
business has to be courted, things aren't what they used to be.  Prudy

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[CTRL] FW: Pernod, Bacardi set to wage WTO rum war

1999-09-12 Thread Dave

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forwarded...

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
By Kevin Drawbaugh, European Consumer Goods Correspondent


LONDON, Sept 10 (Reuters) - Another trans-Atlantic trade dispute -- this one
over Cuban rum, rather than bananas or beef -- is scheduled to enter
negotiations in Geneva on Monday.

On the face of it the spat looks minor. Spirits producers Bacardi-Martini
and
Pernod-Ricard are fighting over a trademark and one will win. But larger
implications loom.

At the heart of the struggle is an obscure U.S. law, Section 211, adopted
last year and shortly afterward made the target of a formal complaint by the
EU to the World Trade Organization.

On Monday, U.S. and EU trade delegates will begin talks on the complaint. If
they cannot work out a friendly compromise, a two-year process of committee
and appeal may result.

Worse, trade lawyers said, an outcome displeasing to Cuban President Fidel
Castro could jeopardise hundreds of U.S. trademarks in Cuba, raise questions
about intellectual property rights and stir more U.S.-EU trade trouble
following recent strife over the EU banana regime and hormone-treated U.S.
beef.

``This is not on the scale of the bananas or the beef debates ... But these
trademark disputes are becoming more and more important around the world,''
said Paul Brenton, trade economist at the Centre for European Policy Studies
in Brussels.

The Cuban rum fight traces back to the 19th century in Cuba, when the
Arechabala family created Havana Club rum. The brand gained global stature
by
the 1930s and helped nurture the association that studies show consumers
worldwide still make between the sugar-cane liquor and the Caribbean island
nation.

After Castro's 1959 Cuban revolution, the Arechabalas fled to exile in Spain
and America. Castro seized their rum business and the Havana Club name faded
away. Rum, of course, did not.

Today, it is the world's third biggest-selling liquor after vodka and
whiskey. And rum made by the Bacardis, another Cuban exile family, is not
only the world's top-selling rum by far, but the biggest-selling spirit
brand
of any type.

The $1.5 billion U.S. market is the world's biggest and Bacardi controls
half
of it. Elsewhere, Bacardi also leads, but it has been challenged lately by a
revived Havana Club, which was relaunched in 1994 by a joint venture formed
by France's Pernod and a Cuban state company.

Havana Club cannot be sold in the United States because the U.S. government
has banned all Cuban goods since 1962. But the embargo, opposed by most
nations, looks increasingly shaky.

If it ends, Pernod wants to be ready to challenge Bacardi in the U.S. rum
market, but its position has been eroded by recent struggles that have led
to
Monday's upcoming talks in Geneva.

To preempt any U.S. inroads by Pernod's Havana Club, Bacardi in 1996 began
selling a Bahamian rum in the United States under the same name. The
Pernod-Cuban group immediately sued for trademark infringement in U.S.
District Court in New York.

At roughly the same time, Bacardi allies in Washington wrote Section 211 and
slipped it to the massive 1998 U.S. budget bill, allowing it to win
Congressional approval with little attention.

Section 211 prohibits U.S. registration by Cuban nationals of any trademarks
formerly used by Cuban businesses that were confiscated by the Cuban
government without compensation.

The law forced the New York court to throw out the infringement lawsuit
filed
by Pernod and its Cuban partners in April, but an appeal is pending, said
Pierre-Marie Chateauneuf, Pernod vice president, administration and law.

``We expect to have a final judgment from the court of appeals by the end of
the year,'' he said.

In the meantime, the EU working on Pernod's behalf in July filed its
complaint with the WTO against Section 211. The EU and Pernod contend that
the law violates trade treaties.

``We are being deprived of our trademark in the U.S.,'' said Alain-Serge
Delaitte, spokesman for France's Pernod. ``What we want and what the EU
wants
is the repeal of Section 211 ... It's unfair and violates international law
on intellectual property.''

Bermuda-based Bacardi in a statement said Section 211 is ``entirely
consistent with all international treaties.'' It said, ``Pernod-Ricard has
pressured the EU into filing a claim with the WTO in an attempt to
politicise
a purely civil dispute.''

No WTO decision is expected for many months in the spat, but one that goes
against the Pernod-Cuba group could jeopardise hundreds of U.S. trademarks
registered in Cuba. Castro has hinted as much in recent remarks. Even the
U.S. Chamber of Commerce has expressed concern and questioned Section 211.

``Our hope is obviously that this whole thing can be resolved at
consultation'' next week or shortly later, said Peter Schneidereit, legal
counsel for Bacardi in Washington.

If it can't, he said, the dispute could grind on for years.

[CTRL] Fwd: IMF Finds Signs of Global Recovery

1999-09-12 Thread Carl Amedio

In a message dated 9/12/99 5:20:22 PM Central Daylight Time, AOL News writes:

 Subj:IMF Finds Signs of Global Recovery
 Date:  9/12/99 5:20:22 PM Central Daylight Time
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 IMF Finds Signs of Global Recovery

 .c The Associated Press

  By MARTIN CRUTSINGER

 WASHINGTON (AP) - The global economy finally is showing signs of an upturn
after struggling for more than two years with a virulent financial crisis,
the International Monetary Fund said Sunday.

 The 182-nation lending organization said in its annual report that threats
of economic troubles spreading have lessened considerably since last fall,
when the collapse of the Russian ruble was felt around the world.

 ``This year the worst of the crisis seems well behind us,'' said the IMF's
deputy managing director, Stanley Fischer. ``Most of the Asian crisis
countries are recovering fast. ... Brazil's IMF-supported adjustment program
is succeeding, and growth has been more rapid than expected. And the Russian
economy too is doing better than expected.''

 The IMF used the report to defend its handling of the currency crisis. In
August 1998, it looked as if the crisis could drag down economies in the
United States and elsewhere after Russia's botched ruble devaluation rocked
financial markets from New York to Tokyo.

 The agency had assembled billions of dollars in rescue loans but appeared
powerless to halt the spread of currency troubles that began in Thailand in
July 1997. IMF critics also complained of excessive secrecy and a
one-size-fits-all mentality toward economic recovery programs.

 Even with improvements in the overall economy, the IMF has been embarrassed
again in recent days.

 Russia, the recipient of more IMF assistance than any other nation, is
alleged to be involved in financial corruption, including bribery and massive
money laundering through a New York bank. On Friday, the IMF announced it was
suspending a $12 billion Indonesian loan program, citing a banking scandal
and the government's conduct in East Timor.

 Also last week, the Netherlands government leaked a memo indicating that
opposition from members of Congress representing gold-mining states had
brought the IMF close to abandoning efforts to sell gold directly to the
public. The sales would finance debt relief for poor countries.

 IMF officials insisted they were near agreement on a deal to use gold but
avoid direct sales to the public, which the mining industry feared would
depress already weak gold prices.

 The IMF annual report said it has acted numerous times in the past year to
reduce secrecy surrounding its deliberations and force member countries to
provide investors with more timely and accurate information about economic
conditions.

 For the first time, the agency began seeking permission of member countries
to post on the IMF's World Wide Web site results of annual IMF reviews of
individual countries' economic performances. The IMF also began publishing
the exact economic reforms that countries agree to implement in exchange for
loans.

 ``We have come a very long way on transparency in just a few years,''
Fischer told reporters at a briefing on the annual report.

 The IMF said it had made less progress in restructuring the global financial
system to reduce the likelihood of future crises. Still, the agency said
nations were moving ahead with proposals to adopt standards of good conduct
in banking and other areas.

 It conceded a lack of agreement on ways to ensure that IMF rescue loans not
be used to bail out private investors who made risky bets in emerging markets.

 In one way, the IMF, which is having its annual meeting this month, is in
far better shape financially to deal with the next crisis: Its members
approved an increase in resources, which the report said stood at $76.6
billion in uncommitted reserves on April 30. That is more than double the
level of a year earlier.

 But outstanding loans to troubled countries are up, to a record $90.8
billion at the end of April, or 20 percent higher than 12 months earlier.

 The Clinton administration won approval after a long struggle for an
increase of $18 billion in U.S. support to the IMF. But Congress imposed
numerous conditions aimed at pushing the agency to move more quickly toward
changes in its operations.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK NEW YORK

1999-09-12 Thread Richard Sampson

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This sounds like a MKULTRA experiment.

Get the ignorant masses agitated then sell a mind control device to them.




If you live anywhere there is chemical spraying of any sort, if you use a
cell
phone, if you use a computer, if you use electricity, I strongly encourage
you
to consider purchasing an Electroshield for you and your family. Thanks to
applications
of Malathion in populated areas, your life may depend upon it!
http://members.tripod.com/~e-shield/index.html


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Re: [CTRL] The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get...

1999-09-12 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"M.A. Johnson" wrote:

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 Nurev Ind Research wrote:
 Don't be fooled by these oinkres' propaganda.

 MJ:
 Ad hominem

If the shoe fits...


 Nurev Ind Research wrote:
The problem with unequal income distribution is NOT
inequality. The problem is CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH
into the hands of fewer and fewer people. This is
what has an adverse effect on everyone, even the
comfortable middle class.

 MJ:
 Wealth is created not distributed.

Wealth is created by someone's labor. Then it's collected as
someone's private property. This is concentration #1. Then it's
taxed. Concentration #2. Then it's distributed by the government.
Distribution #1. Owners of excess capital (profit) invest that
money. Distribution #2. Investments are either lost, which leaves
them as a " distribution," or reap profits which further
concentrates wealth.

Don't you get tired of being wrong?

 Nurev Ind Research wrote:
 Concentration of wealth = concentration of power through
 the political and economic systems of any country BUT
 ESPECIALLY IN A CAPITALIST COUNTRY. If you doubt this,
 LOOK WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!

 MJ:
 America is NOT a Capitalist nation.

You are a ridiculous person.

Joshua2

 There has never been
 such an animal in recorded history, though the US came
 the closest back in the late 1700s.

 What we are reaping is a consequence of the Welfare State.

 Regard$,
 --MJ

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[CTRL] Ex-Senator John Danforth- Mr. Clean

1999-09-12 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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THE REVIEW LIST
Things that John Danforth,
Clarence Thomas, and Ralston Purina
have in common

-- DANFORTH hired THOMAS out of law school as an assistant attorney general
in Missouri.
-- DANFORTH brought THOMAS to Washington as a legislative assistant when
elected to the Senate.
-- DANFORTH helped THOMAS get appointed to the Reagan transition team, the
Department of Education, and the EEOC.
-- DANFORTH helped THOMAS get appointed to the US Court of Appeals, calling
him my "personal friend."
-- DANFORTH played a crucial role in getting THOMAS appointed to the Supreme
Court.
-- DANFORTH, during the time in question, owned RALSTON PURINA stock worth
more than $7.5 million.
-- Two brothers of DANFORTH were on the board of directors of RALSTON PURINA
-- One brother of DANFORTH was a member of the board of trustees of
Washington University, which had large holdings in RALSTON PURINA.
-- Alpo and RALSTON PURINA were sued on charges of false advertising.
-- US District Judge Stanley Sporkin fond both companies in the wrong, but
found that RALSTON PURINA alone had acted willfully in having "perpetrated a
cruel hoax" on dog owners in its claims that it dog food could cure a
serious ailment. He assessed a $10 million fine against RALSTON PURINA.
-- A few weeks after being confirmed, THOMAS heard the RALSTON PURINA
appeal. He wrote an opinion for the court overturning the $10 million fine
against RALSTON PURINA.
-- This was good news for his friend DANFORTH and his $7.5 million in
RALSTON PURINA stock, but appears to be a clear violation of 28 USC 455
which requires a federal judge to disqualify himself in proceedings in which
the judge's impartiality "might" reasonably be questioned.

[This information appeared in the August 24, 1991, edition of Legal Times in
an article by Monroe Freedman, professor of legal ethics at Hofstra
University Law School. Freedman wrote that "Thomas showed no regard for his
ethical obligations as a judge and no respect for the statutory mandate that
he recuse himself. On both counts, Thomas is unfit to sit on the Supreme
Court of the United States." The media, more interested in stray hairs on
Coke cans, ignored the story.]

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[CTRL] The Next Airline Crash?

1999-09-12 Thread William Shannon

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NTSB Wary of Boeing 737 Rudders
SEATTLE - Efforts to fix rudder problems in the Boeing 737, the world's most
common jetliner, have not eliminated malfunctions that ''could be
catastrophic,'' the National Transportation Safety Board concluded.
In a report released in July, the board detailed its investigation into the
1991 crash of United Airlines Flight 585 in 1991 in Colorado Springs, Colo.,
and the crash of USAir Flight 427 near Pittsburgh in 1994. All 157 people on
the two 737s died.

The 737 is the only commercial jet with a rudder controlled by a single
hydraulic valve. Other jets have multiple valves that can compensate for each
other if one jams.

The single valve has shown a tendency to jam, causing rogue deflections of
the sort that apparently affected a Metrojet flight in February, officials
said.

The crew reported that the rudder pedal appeared to move without being
touched, at one point causing the 737-200 to turn to the right. The crew
managed to land safely, partly by shutting down the plane's main hydraulic
system. Had the rudder remained jammed, the plane could have rolled into a
high-speed dive.

The NTSB report lists 112 such ''rudder events'' on Boeing 737 flights in the
past two decades.

''The 737 series airplanes ... remain susceptible to rudder system
malfunctions that could be catastrophic,'' the 346-page report said.

Redesigning the rudder - the largest moving part of the jet - could cost
Boeing hundreds of millions of dollars and cause uncounted airline
disruptions for airplane modifications. There are 3,111 Boeing 737s in use
worldwide, as many as 800 in the air at any given time.

Boeing and Federal Aviation Administration officials say an upgraded rudder
valve installed over the past two years on all 737s registered in the United
States and many registered abroad have made a safe jet even safer.

The 737 crashes on average less than two times per million departures, a
record Boeing officials say rivals that of any other commercial jet.

In March, the safety board requested that the FAA convene a panel to consider
further rudder changes.

''We await (the panel's) findings and recommendations of what, if anything,
can be done to improve the rudder system,'' Boeing spokesman Russ Young said.

It's not known whether rudder problems contributed to the crash of a 737 in
Argentina on Aug. 31 or of another in Turkey in April. Flight data tapes from
those planes and 737s that went down in Indonesia in 1997 and Peru in 1998
have not been recovered.

Problems with the rudder system were reported three decades ago.

Engineers at Bertea Corp., which contracted with Boeing in the late 1960s to
mass-produce the 737's rudder valve in Irvine, Calif., obtained patents in
1969 and 1982 on devices to correct the jamming problem but found no buyers.

''One failure ... occurs when the valve becomes stuck or jammed,'' the 1969
patent cautions. ''This may be the result of contaminants ... warpage,
thermal expansion or contraction of the elements of (the valve) or numerous
other reasons.''

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Re: [CTRL] guru.net

1999-09-12 Thread earthman

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Sorry Terry,
I can't help you there. I had to uninstall it as it was giving me problems.
My PC not able to handle it.
Peter

We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage
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 Peter,
 Thanks for the site.
 I installed and I registered but every time I start the PC again the
 registration screen comes up.
 Am I missing something?
 Thanks,
 Terry

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[CTRL] new WACO page

1999-09-12 Thread Dan S

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I've put up a 'WACO' page which will preserve either all, most of or the
most important of the the recent news articles. This just so that they do
not fall between the cracks or worse, into never never land. This will make
them all collectively accessible from one place when it is needed, whether
that be now, or down the road. I hate it when I have to back track something
for someone and have to relook it all up, so why not do it when I'm there
looking at it. The URL is http://www2.crosswinds.net/~ds1999/waco.html


--
Dan S

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[CTRL] This is news?

1999-09-12 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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WILLIAM PFAFF, BALTIMORE SUN: As the United States approaches to the 2000
presidential race, in which more money will be spent than ever, the fact
must be faced that American has become a plutocracy, rather than a
democracy. Money rules government. Moreover, the transformation is probably
irreversible. The new system's invulnerability to reform is structural, the
result of a series of political decisions and court rulings on the
regulation and financing of political campaigns that has placed the cost of
election beyond the means of all but a handful of private individuals.

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[CTRL] Woman says plane vapors make her sick

1999-09-12 Thread Dan S

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From
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/OREGON_NEWS/o1040_AM_ID--AircraftVapors
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Woman says plane vapors make her sick

The Associated Press
09/12/99 7:31 PM Eastern

COEUR d'ALENE, Idaho (AP) -- Meg Anderson believes that plumes from the back
of jet airplanes are making her sick.

The plumes are called "contrails" -- short for condensation trails -- and
some people believe they cause flu-like symptoms and worse.

Most officials dismiss the claims.

A worldwide network of people connected by the Internet insist the trails
come from military planes on covert sorties.

The truth is up there, depending on which of a growing number of Internet
sites you dial up, or what night you tune in to nighttime talk radio's
conspiracy king, Art Bell.

On one particularly "heavy spray day" over Plummer in June, Anderson said
she watched particulate matter fall out of the clouds, "like the black stuff
in a diesel truck stopped at an intersection.

"I experienced a numb mouth and burning sinuses -- in an area that is
generally pollution free," she said.

Military and most government officials scoff at the contrail conspiracy
theory.

"The Air Force doesn't do anything that emits anything other than a normal
contrail, which is vapor," said Margaret Gidding, a U.S. Air Force
spokeswoman at the Pentagon.

Most people have seen the puffy white contrails from commercial jets, frozen
water particles released by combustion into the frigid climes of the upper
atmosphere. The trails disappear quickly.

But the contrails in question are said to be much wider than usual and stick
around for hours, filling the sky with tic-tac-toe patterns.

Contrail watchdogs use Oakville, Wash., as a poster child. As chronicled by
the TV show "Unsolved Mysteries," in 1994 a rain of gelatinous goo fell from
the sky onto the small town. Tests revealed a combination of white blood
cells, two strains of bacteria and bits of coral reef, according to a
transcript of the television show.

Most of the theories link contrails to military planes, often white,
unmarked planes flying below the 18,000-foot altitude where the vapor trails
normally start forming.

This year, Air Force headquarters started getting monthly calls on the
issue, many of them from Washington state, Gidding said. She thinks the
sudden interest stems from publicity on the Internet.

"It's challenging because I empathize with people when they're ill and
looking for the cause," she says. "But the Air Force is just not what's
causing it."

Forecasters say contrails are a meteorological phenomenon caused when water
from jet engine exhaust freezes fast without evaporating, typically
below -38 degrees Celsius. Most contrails break up quickly, but sometimes
upper level winds can spread the trails apart, forming a large sheet cloud
that lingers.

People who associate health problems with the trails describe strange
X-shaped clouds -- said to aid satellite location of spraying operations --
and checkerboards not produced by commercial jets on parallel flight
patterns.

A Kootenai County resident who gave his name as "George" on a popular
contrails Web site in June reported black particles similar to those Meg
Anderson had reported. "By the time it was dark, my nose lining was burning
and my mouth was numb. I had a sore throat at bedtime and next morning sore
glands in my neck and fatigue."

Dr. Leonard Horowitz, an anti-immunization crusader who lives in Sandpoint,
suspects chemtrails in a nationwide outbreak of upper respiratory infections
last winter that didn't respond to antibiotic treatment.

But "it's virtually impossible to link it definitively," Horowitz
acknowledges.

Health officials in Idaho and Washington say they've received no reports
from concerned citizens of contrail-linked illnesses.

"We're hooked up to Hanford to see if anything happens there," says Renee
Guillierie, a spokeswoman for the Washington Department of Health. "That's
about as weird as we get."

Questions? Comments? Suggestions? We welcome your feedback.
©1999 Oregon Live LLC

Copyright 1999 Associated Press. All rights reserved.
This material may not be published, broadcast,
rewritten, or redistributed.

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[CTRL] Glowing monkeys to fight genetic disorder

1999-09-12 Thread Dan S

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From The Sunday Times,
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/stiinnnws01004.html?99
9
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September 12 1999 INNOVATION
Health

Monkeys that 'glow' could help fight genetic disorders

FLUORESCENT monkeys could hold the key to future research into genetic
diseases, writes Mark Prigg.

Researchers hope to splice the gene that makes jellyfish glow into a monkey
embryo. If successful, it will be the first time a gene has been spliced
into the embryo of another species. It is hoped the research will give
scientists a greater understanding of genetic mutations.

The team from the Oregon Regional Primate Research Center has tested several
techniques. It has already managed to make embryos composed of a few dozen
cells glow and now hopes to create baby monkeys that glow when placed under
ultraviolet light.

The team chose the jellyfish gene because it is easy to use and has already
been successfully placed into mice.

According to Anthony Chan, a researcher at the centre, some embryos
fertilised with monkey sperm carrying the jellyfish gene have now been
transferred into the wombs of surrogate rhesus monkeys.

He says: "Rhesus monkeys make a great model for human disease and we have no
qualms at all about this research - the reasons for doing it are sound and
will give us our best shot at curing genetic disease."

Researchers are using monkeys because they are genetically much closer to
humans than, say, mice, which are used to test new drugs. Mice often respond
to genetic mutations in different ways from primates. By introducing
human-disease genes into monkey embryos, the team hopes to test new drugs on
the rhesus monkeys, which react to disease in a similar way to humans.

The centre is keeping the exact number of monkeys used and the expected
delivery dates secret in case of attacks from animal-rights activists. They
have been demonstrating weekly at the centre in an attempt to stop several
other monkey-cloning experiments.

A laboratory spokeswoman says the monkey mothers are doing well and are
expected to give birth in November.

"The results of the experiment won't be known for some time after the
birth," she says. "With this kind of genetic experiment we want to wait and
see how the babies grow up before jumping to conclusions.

One of the advantages of using the jellyfish gene is that we will get an
instant result - the babies will glow from the moment they are born.

"However, how long they will survive and how they will develop are our main
questions, assuming they do glow. This is the first time this has been tried
anywhere in the world, so we just don't know what will happen.

"We are also very aware of the moral and political ramifications of the
work, so before we release the results we need to take everything into
account. But if it works this is undoubtedly going to be the best way to
study genetic disease in humans."

--
Dan S

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Re: [CTRL] guru.net

1999-09-12 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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earthman wrote:

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 http://www.guru.net/
 Check the above link out and download this thing. It is free. You will be
 surprised at what it can do. You can get instant info just by using your
 ALT+Ctrl keys while clicking left on any word while surfing. Or right click
 and select guru net from the menu. It is like having an instant search
 engine with out leaving a page, as well as having an instant dictionary for
 those words that you might not know the meaning of.

 Peter
 We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
 http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage

You'd better make sure there's a return trip.
Don't forget to buy a ticket.

Joshua2

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[CTRL] end of the world parity

1999-09-12 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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hi,

got to go and play some rock and roll in Europe - but before I disappear
for a week - I must tell you that according to my sources .. the spear of
destiny is in edinburgh scotland  and people were also making claims
that an archaeologist found an old coin with the star of david on it on the
site of the new scottish parliament.
Whether thats info or misinfo it kinda shows that perhaps there is more to
come in my 'Scotland - Holy Land of the NWO' theory 

don't we just love Project Blue Beam - unfortunately I've heard
psychobabble from spooks which says that these concentration camps will be
like Holiday Camps where everyone gets a comfy chair  ;) everybody is
happy on their medication etc etc  well, enough of plan A 

the cavalry has to get here soon eh ??? in a scene from Highlander, Connor
Macleod takes down Darth Vader saying ... 'there can be only one' ... so,
I'm happy believing in plan B ... seeya soon.

Andrew



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Re: [CTRL] textbook propaganda (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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What are you talking about? Who are you talking to?
Use a point of referrence.

J2

Tenorlove wrote:

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 I got both sides at different times. I went to high school in the
 Midwest, where capitalism was king. I went to college in California,
 where Marx was god.
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Re: [CTRL] The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get...

1999-09-12 Thread M.A. Johnson

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Nurev Ind Research wrote:
   Don't be fooled by these oinkres' propaganda.
MJ:
   Ad hominem
Joshua:
 If the shoe fits...

MJ:
It is your shoe and apparently it fits your foot as you
continue to concentrate on the individual making the
statement rather than the statement itself.



Nurev Ind Research wrote:
The problem with unequal income distribution is NOT
inequality. The problem is CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH
into the hands of fewer and fewer people. This is
what has an adverse effect on everyone, even the
comfortable middle class.
MJ:
Wealth is created not distributed.
Joshua:
   Wealth is created by someone's labor. Then it's collected as
   someone's private property. This is concentration #1. Then it's
   taxed. Concentration #2. Then it's distributed by the government.
   Distribution #1. Owners of excess capital (profit) invest that
   money. Distribution #2. Investments are either lost, which leaves
   them as a " distribution," or reap profits which further
   concentrates wealth.

MJ:
The Government takes/spends only 20% GNP currently -- too large,
but not the concentration you claim.

Joe contracts with Stan to exchange a certain wage/benefit for
a task.  Stan spends or saves this wealth.  If he spends it,
he provides the funds to another for like activities.  If he
saves it, he makes it available to others for like activities.
Perhaps Bastiat's simplified essay _That Which is Seen and That
Which is Not Seen_ will aid you in your studies.



Joshua:
 Don't you get tired of being wrong?

MJ:
You have yet to prove such, instead only demonstrating your
own ignorance and irrationality.



Nurev Ind Research wrote:
   Concentration of wealth = concentration of power through
   the political and economic systems of any country BUT
   ESPECIALLY IN A CAPITALIST COUNTRY. If you doubt this,
   LOOK WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!
MJ:
 America is NOT a Capitalist nation.
Joshua:
 You are a ridiculous person.

MJ:
While that may or may not be, such does not change the fact
cited above; America is NOT a Capitalist nation.


Regard$,
--MJ

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Re: [CTRL] This is news?

1999-09-12 Thread M.A. Johnson

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Joshua forwarded:
 As the United States approaches to the 2000 presidential
 race, in which more money will be spent than ever, the
 fact must be faced that American has become a plutocracy,
 rather than a democracy.

MJ:
America was never intended to be a Democracy, but a
Constitutional Republic with a Federal Government that
was STRICTLY limited in its Powers.
America has become an Oligarchy ruled by the Whims of Five.



Joshua forwarded:
 Money rules government.

MJ:
Contrary to its plainly written mandate which seeks to
prevent such.



Joshua forwarded:
 Moreover, the transformation is probably irreversible. The
 new system's invulnerability to reform is structural, the
 result of a series of political decisions and court rulings
 on the regulation and financing of political campaigns that
 has placed the cost of election beyond the means of all but
 a handful of private individuals.

MJ:
The solution is to enforce the Constitution as
written ... preventing the quid pro quo.  Why
would ADM, for instance, provide such funding to
so many races if it did not receive the subsidies
and favorable legislation it does?  (All contrary
to Constitutional limitations).

It is probably irreversible, but COULD be solved by removing
the Government and its indoctrination from the schools.

Regard$,
--MJ

Our real disease -- which is Democracy.
-- Alexander Hamilton

The powers delegated to the federal government are few
and defined. -- James Madison, Federalist 45

Whenever is found what is called a paternal government, there
is found state education. It has been discovered that the best
way to insure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the
nursery. -- Benjamin Disraeli

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Re: [CTRL] Jim Keith - Secret and Suppressed: Banned Ideas and Hidden History

1999-09-12 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

I heard Jim Keith died a few days ago. I wanted to post this article I
previously published in an issue of my newsletter.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

From SMART Issue #7
http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-07.htm

This was written by a subscriber. Please use caution while reading this
article.  It may be triggering for survivors.

Secret and Suppressed: Banned Ideas and Hidden History, edited by Jim Keith,
1993 Feral House, Box 3466, Portland, OR 97208 , $12.95

In his preface to Secret and Suppressed, Jim Keith states that "the people
who direct and control the world's  financial resources are, to a very large
extent, the same people who control and direct the world's media." Secret and
Suppressed is a guidebook to alternative views of contemporary events and
world history...  (which) confronts the reader with disquieting revelations
on mind control,  secret societies, media disinformation, cults and elite
cabals. The hard evidence supplied by many of the articles is startling."

About half of the articles in this anthology expose Masonic activity, how it
has shaped society in the past and its influence in our lives today.

In  his  article  "Sorcery,  Sex, Assassination and the Science of Political
Control," James Shelby Downard writes, "For years I have been trying to draw
attention to Masonic sorcery and its (alleged) relation to political
control." He states that  "Benjamin . was initiated into Freemasonry at
St. John's Lodge in Philadelphia  and  ... is  credited  with publishing the
first Masonic book in America."

He identifies the "House of the Rising Sun," a Masonic meeting place for
powerful political figures such as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington and
George Mason, located in Fredericksburg, Virginia, which as the earliest
known record of the Masonic Royal Arch Degree of York, listed in the city
annals on December 22, 1753. He discusses the roots of the anti-mason
political party that challenged Freemason
Andrew Jackson for the presidency in 1826, and the murder of the Mormon
prophet  which resulted in the men of the Mormon church withdrawing from
Freemasonry. (S.M.A.R.T. note: For more information on the Mormons and their
connection to the Masons, see Issue #6)

He  delves  deeply  into  the  JFK assassination which he believes is
suffused with Masonic symbolism having to do with violence,  perversion,
conspiracy, death and  degradation  (specifically,  Masonic Greening
Rituals). "Masonry does not (allegedly) believe in murdering a man in just
any old way and in the JFK assassination, it went to incredible lengths and
took great risks to make this heinous act correspond to the ancient fertility
oblation of The Killing of the King."

He identifies the three hoboes arrested at the time of the assassination as
"at least  as  important  symbolically  as operationally, and they compromise
the 'three unworthy craftsmen' of Masonry... and a mirror or doppelganger of
the three assassins who executed the actual murder." He notes that Dealy
Plaza is the site of the First Masonic Temple in Dallas and home of the Blue
Front Tavern, a Masonic
hangout,  and  that  important  security strategy was planned for Dealy Plaza
by the New Orleans CIA station which was headquartered in a Masonic temple
building.

He points out that Mason Lyndon Johnson appointed Mason Earl Warren to
investigate the  death  of  Catholic  President John Kennedy;  33rd degree
Mason Gerald Ford was instrumental in suppressing what little evidence of a
conspiratorial nature reached the Commission; 33rd degree Mason J. Edgar
Hoover  was  responsible  for  supplying information to the commission; and
former CIA Director and 33rd degree Mason Allen Dulles was responsible for
most of his agency's data to the panel. And he asks, "Would it be paranoid to
suspect a panel of Nazis appointed to investigate the death of a Jew, or to
suspect a commission of Klansmen appointed to investigate the death of a
Negro?"

In his article "Subliminal Images in Oliver Stone's 'JFK' " which follows,
Dean Grace identifies Downard's Three Craftsmen; "A man in a dark suit passes
three hoboes being taken into custody by police. There is a hint that the
hoboes give a secret hand sign.. later.. .A man in a dark suit passes by the
three tramps and
gives a secret hand sign for the tramps' benefit. "Also (while) patrolman
Smith is testifying on the witness stand... a tall young man wearing a dark
suit... turns toward the camera and clearly gives a Masonic sign of
distress... holds the palm of the left hand up and crosses it with the right
hand pain down.. .at waist level.. twelve inches from the body. This is the
sign of distress in the Entered Apprentice, first degree of
Masonry."

In his article "The Masonic Ripper," Jim Keith notes that elements brought
forth by Stephen Knight in Jack the Ripper, the Final Solution suggest that
the Ripper slayings may not have been the work of a lone madman but possibly
the commission of a 

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Release: anti-drug TV ads

1999-09-12 Thread Richard Sampson

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When children using drugs prescribed on the advice of their teachers try cocaine and 
marijuana, they often
discover that the illegal drugs are less effective.  Are these children going to end 
up buying opiates from
Clinton's friends; the KLA?



WASHINGTON, DC -- A new study has discovered that
teenagers
who
watch anti-drug TV commercials become more "curious" about
illegal
drugs. So why, the Libertarian Party asked today, are taxpayers
being
forced to pay for those ads?

"According to this study, the government is spending $195
million a year of our money to tantalize teenagers about illegal
drugs," said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. "Shouldn't
Americans have a choice about whether we want to fund what is
essentially a 'Just Do It' advertising campaign for drugs?"

In a study released earlier this year, two researchers found
that teenagers who viewed anti-drug Public Service Announcements
(PSAs) "were more curious about using illicit drugs" than
participants
who didn't see the PSAs.


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Re: [CTRL] sodomite pressure group claims TV is too straight

1999-09-12 Thread Bill

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Read Books.

Bard wrote:

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 (see commentary at end of scroll)

 GLAAD Demands More On-Air Homosexuals

 On the heels of the recent complaint from the National Association for the
 Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) that prime-time television programming
 is "too white," the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) has
 complained that the world as depicted in television entertainment is too
 straight — the presence of 28 homosexual, bisexual, or "transgender"
 characters in the fall lineup notwithstanding.

 "The group is disappointed that most of the characters are white males, who
 are gay in name only and have only minor, recurring roles — usually as the
 butt of jokes, or to provide comic relief," reported the Conservative News
 Service on August 24th. "The only gay lead on prime-time television is the
 character Will Truman of NBC’s ‘Will  Grace.’" "If Will Truman doesn’t have
 a date on ‘Will  Grace’ this season, then the network has failed to
 realistically deliver that sitcom’s premise of the life of a gay man,"
 complained GLAAD spokesman Scott Seomin. "With over 540 lead or supporting
 characters on prime time this fall, the gay community encompasses less than
 2 percent of the total portrayals."

 Accepting for the purpose of discussion the curious notion that prime-time
 television is intended to offer a "realistic" portrayal of society, it
 should be noted that homosexuals constitute something less than 2 percent of
 the population, meaning that the networks have gotten the numbers about
 right. However, a realistic portrayal of "gay" life would require immersion
 in its pathologies — disease, violence, relentless promiscuity, and
 premature death. What GLAAD seeks is a glamorized, politically useful
 portrayal of homosexuality, and Hollywood will no doubt seek to placate the
 sodomite pressure group.
 http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/09-27-99/vo15no20_insider.htm

 THE NEW AMERICAN
 (An Affiliated Publication of the
 John Birch Society)
 http://www.thenewamerican.com/

 The John Birch Society
 http://www.jbs.org/

 Since 1958, members of The John Birch Society have led the movement to
 restore and preserve freedom under the U.S. Constitution. Using educational
 and publicity campaign tools, members of The John Birch Society have shaped
 and altered public policy through education and activism.

 The membership of The John Birch Society is comprised of thousands of
 Americans from all walks of life.
 Our common bond is a love for liberty and our rejection of totalitarianism
 in any form.

 Folks,  Pass this along and encourage your contacts
 to visit the above two Sites.
 And people keep wondering what's wrong with our
 children.
 It's high time you, the parents, shaped the cultural values
 of your children rather than the Marxists in the
 government schools and the entertainment industry.
 Are you, yourselves, so ignorant that you don't
 understand what the lefties in the entertainment
 industry are trying to achieve?

 Take responsibility for you Children and
 stop dumping them into the cesspool created
 by the godless Socialists.

 You can wax on about freedom.
 You can whine about government rules.
 But the only way to change the way things are is to take action
 against the Tyranny traipsing all over American lives.

 Bard

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: IMF Finds Signs of Global Recovery

1999-09-12 Thread Bill

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Oh yeah we can really trust these guys

Carl Amedio wrote:

 In a message dated 9/12/99 5:20:22 PM Central Daylight Time, AOL News writes:

  Subj:IMF Finds Signs of Global Recovery
  Date:  9/12/99 5:20:22 PM Central Daylight Time
  From:  AOL News
  BCC:   Ahab42

  IMF Finds Signs of Global Recovery

  .c The Associated Press

   By MARTIN CRUTSINGER

  WASHINGTON (AP) - The global economy finally is showing signs of an upturn
 after struggling for more than two years with a virulent financial crisis,
 the International Monetary Fund said Sunday.

  The 182-nation lending organization said in its annual report that threats
 of economic troubles spreading have lessened considerably since last fall,
 when the collapse of the Russian ruble was felt around the world.

  ``This year the worst of the crisis seems well behind us,'' said the IMF's
 deputy managing director, Stanley Fischer. ``Most of the Asian crisis
 countries are recovering fast. ... Brazil's IMF-supported adjustment program
 is succeeding, and growth has been more rapid than expected. And the Russian
 economy too is doing better than expected.''

  The IMF used the report to defend its handling of the currency crisis. In
 August 1998, it looked as if the crisis could drag down economies in the
 United States and elsewhere after Russia's botched ruble devaluation rocked
 financial markets from New York to Tokyo.

  The agency had assembled billions of dollars in rescue loans but appeared
 powerless to halt the spread of currency troubles that began in Thailand in
 July 1997. IMF critics also complained of excessive secrecy and a
 one-size-fits-all mentality toward economic recovery programs.

  Even with improvements in the overall economy, the IMF has been embarrassed
 again in recent days.

  Russia, the recipient of more IMF assistance than any other nation, is
 alleged to be involved in financial corruption, including bribery and massive
 money laundering through a New York bank. On Friday, the IMF announced it was
 suspending a $12 billion Indonesian loan program, citing a banking scandal
 and the government's conduct in East Timor.

  Also last week, the Netherlands government leaked a memo indicating that
 opposition from members of Congress representing gold-mining states had
 brought the IMF close to abandoning efforts to sell gold directly to the
 public. The sales would finance debt relief for poor countries.

  IMF officials insisted they were near agreement on a deal to use gold but
 avoid direct sales to the public, which the mining industry feared would
 depress already weak gold prices.

  The IMF annual report said it has acted numerous times in the past year to
 reduce secrecy surrounding its deliberations and force member countries to
 provide investors with more timely and accurate information about economic
 conditions.

  For the first time, the agency began seeking permission of member countries
 to post on the IMF's World Wide Web site results of annual IMF reviews of
 individual countries' economic performances. The IMF also began publishing
 the exact economic reforms that countries agree to implement in exchange for
 loans.

  ``We have come a very long way on transparency in just a few years,''
 Fischer told reporters at a briefing on the annual report.

  The IMF said it had made less progress in restructuring the global financial
 system to reduce the likelihood of future crises. Still, the agency said
 nations were moving ahead with proposals to adopt standards of good conduct
 in banking and other areas.

  It conceded a lack of agreement on ways to ensure that IMF rescue loans not
 be used to bail out private investors who made risky bets in emerging markets.

  In one way, the IMF, which is having its annual meeting this month, is in
 far better shape financially to deal with the next crisis: Its members
 approved an increase in resources, which the report said stood at $76.6
 billion in uncommitted reserves on April 30. That is more than double the
 level of a year earlier.

  But outstanding loans to troubled countries are up, to a record $90.8
 billion at the end of April, or 20 percent higher than 12 months earlier.

  The Clinton administration won approval after a long struggle for an
 increase of $18 billion in U.S. support to the IMF. But Congress imposed
 numerous conditions aimed at pushing the agency to move more quickly toward
 changes in its operations.

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Re: [CTRL] The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get...

1999-09-12 Thread piper

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Is this on a web site??
It is good and information that opens up your eyes!
Pied Piper

M.A. Johnson wrote:

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 ~~for educational purposes only~~

 The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get...
 by Mark Skousen

 "The modern market economy accords wealth and distribution
 income in a highly unequal, socially adverse and also
 functionally damaging fashion." --John Kenneth Galbraith

 The allegation is appearing everywhere: Real average
 wages are stagnating and the distribution of wealth and
 income in the United States is becoming more unequal. In
 his latest book, Galbraith cites recent Federal Reserve
 statistics: "By 1992, the top 5 percent were getting an
 estimated 18 percent, a share that in more recent years
 has become substantially larger, as that of those in the
 poorest brackets has been diminishing. This, the good
 society cannot accept.'' According to the Bureau of Labor
 Statistics, average real wages have been declining since
 the mid-1970s. If benefits are included, total real
 compensation has been rising, but only modestly. Finally,
 Business Week (February 25, 1996) declared, "Is America
 Becoming More of a Class Society?'' The magazine cites
 several academic studies indicating less upward mobility
 for less-educated Americans. The Wall Street Journal
 (December 23, 1996) adds, "Inequality may grow for
 lifetime earnings."

 Critics of market capitalism are often misled by
 conventional measures of economic well-being, in
 particular the Lorenz curve, which measures income
 distribution.

 The Lorenz curve measures the percentage of a nation's
 total income as earned by various income classes.
 Typically, it is divided into five income groups. In
 the United States, the highest fifth (the highest income
 earners) usually receive 40 percent of the nation's
 income, while the lowest fifth (the lowest income earners)
 receive around 5 percent, Using the Lorenz curve, U.S.
 income appears to be seriously maldistributed, "now the
 extreme case among the major industrial countries,"
 says Galbraith.

 However, the Lorenz curve establishes an unfair and
 misleading guide for measuring social welfare.
 Suppose, for example, that an "ideal" line of "perfect"
 equality is achieved on the Lorenz curve, i.e., the
 highest fifth (top 20 percent of income earners) only
 receive 20 percent of the nation's income, while the
 bottom fifth (lower 20 percent) increase their share
 to 20 percent. What does this ideal mean?
 Everyone -- the teacher, the lawyer, the plumber, the
 actor -- earns the same amount of income. (1)

 Since few economists think equal wages for everyone
 is an ideal situation, why do they think moving toward
 "perfect equality" on the Lorenz curve is appropriate?
 Moreover, the Lorenz curve is unable to show an increase
 in a country's standard of living over time. It merely
 measures distribution of income.

 To measure changes in social welfare, economists often
 rely on a second measure-average real income. This,
 too, has its shortcomings. A single statistic may mask
 improvements in an individual's standard of living over
 time.

 For example, average real income shows hardly any change
 since the mid-1970s. Yet other measures of well-being,
 such as consumer expenditures and the quantity, quality,
 and variety of goods and services, show remarkable
 advancement over the past 20 years. Consumer spending
 rose a dramatic 40 percent per person in real terms
 during this period. As Professor Richard Vedder says,
 "How many Americans in 1975 had VCRs, microwaves, CD
 players, and home computers?" (2)

 The Work of Stanley Lebergott

 Stanley Lebergott, professor of economics at Wesleyan
 University, has probably done more work in this area
 than anyone else. Instead of relying on general
 measures such as average real income, he uses a more
 commonsense approach -- looking at individual consumer
 markets in food, clothing, housing, fuel, housework,
 transportation, health, recreation, and religion. His
 work is fascinating.

 For example, he developed the following table to measure
 improvements in living standards from 1900 to 1970:

 Living Standards, 1900-1970

   Among AllAmong Poor
   Percentage  Families Families
   with ...in 1900  in 1970

 Flush toilets   1599
 Running water   2492
 Central heating 0158
 One (or fewer)
 occupants
 per room4896
 Electricity 0399
 Refrigeration   1899
 Automobiles 0141

 Source: Stanley Lebergott, The American Economy
 (Princeton University Press, 1976), p. 8.

 In Pursuing Happiness, Lebergott demonstrates repeatedly
 how American consumers have sought to make an uncertain
 and often cruel world into a pleasanter and more convenient
 place. Medicines and 

[CTRL] SCIENTOLOGY'S REVENGE!

1999-09-12 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/1999-09-09/feature_p.html

 New Times Los Angeles - News  Features
 Front Page - September 9 - 15, 1999


 Scientology's Revenge

 For years, the Cult Awareness Network was the Church of
 Scientology's biggest enemy.  But the late L. Ron Hubbard's
 L.A.-based religion cured that -- by taking it over

 By Ron Russell

 It was an idea whose time had come.  That's how Priscilla Coates
 describes the humble beginnings of the Cult Awareness Network,
 founded two decades ago in the wake of the murders and mass
 suicides in Guyana that claimed the lives of hundreds of the late
 Jim Jones' followers.  The concept was simple enough:  set up a
 nonprofit, national organization to assist the often desperate
 loved ones of people caught up in the ever-proliferating cult
 scene.  On paper, at least, the group known by the acronym CAN
 endures.  But nearly a quarter-century later, neither Coates, who
 ran the Los Angeles chapter during the organization's heyday, nor
 anyone else who once helped nurture the network has anything to do
 with it.  That's because whenever people call CAN's hotline these
 days, more likely than not someone from the Church of Scientology
 answers the phone.  Instead of warning people about suspected
 cults, opponents say, the new group promotes them.  As one
 Scientology critic puts it, "It's like Operation Rescue taking over
 Planned Parenthood."

 The story of how the controversial L.A.-based church -- which
 Time magazine once termed "the cult of greed" -- commandeered the
 anti-cult group that was its nemesis is as bizarre as some of late
 church founder L. Ron Hubbard's science fiction.  It is also a
 cautionary tale for anyone who goes up against Scientology, with
 its penchant for harassing enemies in the courts, and its
 rough-and-tumble reputation for retaliating against "suppressives,"
 those deemed as having ridiculed Scientology's teachings.  Those
 teachings include Hubbard's decree that humans are made of clusters
 of spirits, called "thetans," who were banished to Earth about
 75 million years ago by an evil galactic ruler named Xenu.  A pulp
 fiction writer who had served a troubled stint in the Navy, Hubbard
 hit it big in 1950 by coming up with the concept of Dianetics,
 which he dubbed a modern science of mental health.  It remains
 at the core of Scientology practice.  One of its staples is a
 simplified lie detector called an E-meter, which is supposed to
 measure electrical changes in the skin while subjects discuss
 intimate details of their lives.  Hubbard claimed that unhappiness
 sprang from mental aberrations, called "engrams," and that
 counseling sessions with the E-meter could help get rid of them.
 Scientologists refer to the extensive (and expensive) process of
 "clearing" the mind in order for this to occur as "auditing."
 But during the 1970s, the Internal Revenue Service conducted some
 auditing sessions of its own and accused Hubbard of skimming
 millions of dollars from the church, laundering it through dummy
 corporations, and stashing it in Swiss bank accounts.  And although
 he died before the case was adjudicated, his wife and 10 other
 former church leaders went to prison in the early 1980s for
 infiltrating, burglarizing, and wiretapping dozens of private and
 government agencies in an attempt to block their investigations.

 With its sprawling headquarters on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood,
 the church has assembled a star-studded roster of followers that
 includes actors John Travolta, Tom Cruise, and Kirstie Alley; jazz
 musician Chick Corea; and soul singer Isaac Hayes.  To help shed
 its fringe-group image, it has retained public relations powerhouse
 Hill and Knowlton, runs a plethora of ads on television and in
 top-drawer news and business journals, and recruits academics
 and other professionals through a network of consultants whose
 ties to the church are typically hidden.  Its members also include
 high-profile media types.  Greta Van Susteren, the CNN legal
 correspondent, and her husband, influential Washington Beltway
 attorney John Coale, are Scientologists.  They even played a
 minor role in Scientology's assault on the Cult Awareness Network
 by representing an Ohio woman who sued a cult-deprogramming
 organization named Wellspring, whose executive director also sat
 on the CAN board.

 In hindsight, officials of the former CAN -- whose alleged
 involvement with kidnapping and deprogramming individuals from
 suspected cults created its own controversy -- say they should have
 seen Scientology's assault coming.  Especially after an L.A. lawyer
 prominent in Scientology attached himself to a civil lawsuit
 against CAN in suburban Seattle several years ago.  No one could
 have imagined that the suit, brought on behalf of a young man named
 Jason Scott -- who had been kidnapped and deprogrammed from an
 evangelical Christian sect -- would produce judgments totaling $5.2
 million and 

[CTRL] SCIENTOLOGY'S REVENGE!

1999-09-12 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 New Times Los Angeles - News  Features
 Front Page - September 9 - 15, 1999

 Scientology's Revenge
 By Ron Russell

 For years, the Cult Awareness Network (CAN) was the Church of
 Scientology's biggest enemy.  But the late L. Ron Hubbard's
 L.A.-based religion cured that -- by taking it over...

 full story at:
http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/1999-09-09/feature_p.html


   Note:  The old CAN was reportedly headquartered in the
   headquarter's building of the B'nai B'rith (ADL) in
   Washington, DC..  CAN was directly, actively involved in
   the Waco Christian Holocaust, which served to prevent the
   Davidians' planned move to their fully-owned property in
   Israel -- which could -never!- have been allowed.
   CAN proved its worth that day -- the day which sparked
   the Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy and its reaction --
   the FBI- ADL's Militia Hate campaign to disarm America
   for their NWO puppet masters.


   Scientology has done the world a favor, it seems.





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[CTRL] ADL WACO CONNECTION (fwd)

1999-09-12 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999
 Subj: ADL WACO CONNECTION:ADL FIRMLY LINKED to WACO TRAGEDY

 http://www.waco93.com  TELL EVERYONE to RENT IT, SHARE IT

 COMMUNIQUE  #2184
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 THIS  OTHER DOCUMENTS to COME regarding the ADL WACO CONNECTION
 can be found in  http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/ADL.WACO


 ADL FIRMLY LINKED to WACO TRAGEDY
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 Front Page of May 17, 1993 SPOTLIGHT VOLUME XIX Number 20

 The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith can take credit
 for the holocaust in Waco, Texas that resulted in the slaughter
 (immolation) of nearly one hundred men women and children.

 Herb Brin, a leading backer of the ADL and publisher of
 Heritage, a newspaper which serves the Jewish community in Los
 Angeles, has let the cat out of the bag.

 In a signed headline story which appeared in the Arpil 16
 edition of his newspaper, Brin inadvertently exposed the role
 that the ADL played in helping engineer the BATF/FBI/DELTA
 FORCE/BRITISH SAS slaughter at the Branch Davidian church in
 Waco.  In an article hailing the ADL's now-infamous, once-secret
 international spy network, Brin stated:

 "U.S. and Texas authorities have precise documentation
 (from ADL of course) on the Branch Davidian cult in Waco
 and how it operated in the past."


 Brin's amazing revelation (ostensibly designed to praise the
 ADL's activities) brings to light the truth about the propaganda
 and disinformation about the beleagured religious sect.

 In short, it was the ADL that essentially tricked the federal
 authorities into conducting the operation that resulted in the
 tragedy.

 What's more, the SPOTLIGHT has learned the so-called Cult
 Awareness Network (CAN) which also prodded the assault on the
 Branch Davidians is closely connected to the ADL.

 (Some sources, in fact, believe that CAN is, in fact, an
 ADL-funded front operation. There is no question, however,
 that CAN does operate as such.)

 In any case, the American public owes a great debt to Herb Brin,
 an admitted ADL informant himself.  Thanks to Brin the truth
 about the ADL's intervention [at the outset BEFORE the raid]] in
 the Branch Davidian affair is now part of the public record.

 A final note: in the same article where he bragged of the ADL's
 campaign against the religious sect, Brin noted that, as a
 consequence of the ADL's involvement in the San Francisco
 scandal, Liberty Lobby was in what he called its "finest hour."
 [ADL was caught in a massive spying scandal using SF POLICE
 files] [Liberty Lobby, parent of the SPOTLIGHT newspaper,
 exposed this scandal, as did all mainstream papers.]

 The ADL is certainly not in its finest hour, this especially
 since more than a few people have suggested that the very reason
 why David Koresh and the Branch Davidian sect were subjected to
 the fiery holocaust that brought the standoff in Waco to an end
 is because the ADL did not want the Branch Davidians to come out
 alive.

 Had Koresh and his followers gone to trial (which is very much
 apparently what they desired in order that they could tell their
 side of the story), the course of legal discovery would have
 revealed the way that the ADL had been prodding action by the
 FBI and the BATF.

 This would have exposed the ADL's criminal methods and its
 covert spy operations even further at a time when the outfit is
 already under fire.  Thus it was necessary that the Branch
 Davidians be exterminated.  A lucky few did survive which means
 that, ultimately, the truth may come out.


 

 This and other materials exposing the ADL WACO CONNECTION
 can be found at http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/ADL.WACO

 If you have material that either supports or refutes the
 ADL WACO CONNECTION, please send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 We only want the truth...

 The SPOTLIGHT NEWSPAPER is under heavy fire from the ADL,
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[CTRL] WACO: CAN and ADL

1999-09-12 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 extracted from:
 http://www.shadeslanding.com/firearms/waco.massacre.html

 THE MASSACRE OF THE BRANCH DAVIDIANS

 A STUDY OF GOVERNMENT VIOLATIONS OF RIGHTS,
 EXCESSIVE FORCE AND COVER UP

 By Carol Moore, (c) 1994 [1]
 January 28, 1994


 GOVERNMENT RELIANCE ON "PRIVATE SPIES" AND "CULT BUSTERS"

 Because of government spying upon and disruption of peaceful
 political groups during the 1960s and 1970s, the Justice Department
 set guidelines prohibiting investigations of groups "based solely
 on activities protected by the First Amendment or on the lawful
 exercise of any other rights secured by the constitution or laws of
 the United States." [20]  As an agency of the Treasury Department,
 BATF does not work under such restrictions.  Both agencies are free
 to investigate groups suspected of engaging in criminal activity.

 Once an investigation is underway, most government agencies,
 including BATF and the FBI, seem willing to receive information
 from such groups as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
 (ADL) and the Cult Awareness Network (CAN).  These groups, and
 others like them, clearly have their own agendas.  They keep
 copious files of biased and prejudicial information on private
 individuals and organizations and share these with law enforcement.

 The Anti-Defamation League keeps files on Arab- American, Jewish
 peace, anti-apartheid, and other human and civil rights groups.
 A year-long investigation by the San Francisco District Attorney
 found that the ADL had infiltrated groups, stolen membership lists
 and other private documents, and swapped files with police,
 sometimes illegally.  However, the ADL escaped prosecution.
 "In an unusual procedure, (District Attorney) Smith filed a civil
 suit accusing the ADL and (ADL investigator) Bullock of illegally
 possessing confidential documents, then promptly accepted a
 settlement that contained no admission of wrongdoing."  Shortly
 after this, 19 individuals filed a suit seeking damages for 1,100
 people who allegedly were the targets of illegal surveillance and
 seeking court orders against such surveillance. [21]  The
 government's lenience towards ADL suggests it does not frown on
 ADL's spying activities.

 The ADL supplied information about the Branch Davidians to federal
 authorities.  In a front page article about the ADL, Herb Brin,
 publisher of Heritage, which serves the Los Angeles Jewish
 community, wrote:  "U.S. and Texas authorities have precise
 documentation (from ADL, of course) on the Branch Davidian cult
 in Waco and how it operated in the past." [22]

 The Cult Awareness Network (CAN) actively urges the press, Congress
 and law enforcement to act against any non- mainstream religious,
 psychological or even political movement which it describes as
 a "cult."  After interviewing CAN's executive director Cynthia
 Kisser, a reporter wrote:  "No one knows how many destructive cults
 and sects exist in the United States.  Kisser's binder holds 1,500
 names gleaned from newspaper clippings, court documents and
 thousands of calls to the network's hotline.  Some of the groups
 have legitimate purposes, Kisser says.  But her group's efforts
 show that most, despite wildly diverse beliefs, share stunningly
 similar patterns of mind control, group domination, exploitation
 and physical and mental abuse." [23]  CAN critics point out that
 so-called "mind control" techniques are not much different than the
 techniques used in education and socialization efforts used by all
 schools, churches, ideologies and philosophies.

 According to CAN critic Dr. Gordon Melton of the Institute for the
 Study of Religion in Santa Barbara, California, CAN has used a
 number of means to try to destroy small religious groups:  they
 unsuccessfully tried to expand "conservatorship" to allow families
 to remove members from "cults"; they unsuccessfully tried to have
 laws passed against "cults"; they unsuccessfully sued the American
 Psychological Association for rejecting their views on
 "brainwashing."  However, they have found one successful method
 of disrupting groups:  false anonymous charges of child abuse.
 Anonymous reports are legal under current law. [24]

 Priscilla Coates, former executive director of CAN, told reporters,
 "I know how these types of groups work and the children are always
 abused." [25]  CAN has been on a crusade against the Christian
 religious group The Children of God, known in the United States as
 "The Family."  CAN alleges the group practices indiscriminate sex,
 including with children. [26]  Many Family members accuse CAN of
 making false child abuse complaints which have resulted in dozens
 of arrests in at least 10 countries.  Most of the charges are
 quickly dropped and there have been no convictions.  The Family
 has demanded a Congressional investigation of CAN. [27]

 The Cult Awareness Network's other successful approach is referring
 relatives of group members to "deprogrammers"