Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)

2000-12-16 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- That is so ironic, Nessie, that you could say that about "Nature" and yet not understand that you are referring to God. Can't you see your own hypocrisy? Wait a minute. Are you saying there is no difference between Creator and Creation? Or are you saying that you worship Nature?

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)

2000-12-16 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Excuse the intrusion, but the anarchist principles you've argued in this thread were also of "dead men" -- and fellow anarchists -- Lysander Spooner for one. Anarchism is a dynamic, evolving philosophy. We continue to grow, by

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-16 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- George W. did not execute Carla Faye Tucker, the state of Florida did. Bush could only grant a 30 day reprieve, not a pardon, and only then if it were shown that there was doubt of her innocence. Even Jesus was put to death under the laws of the land. From CBNnow web-based

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)

2000-12-15 Thread pmeares
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: The fact of the matter is that thinking for oneself is the very core of what it means to be an anarchist. You, on the other hand, let dead men think for you. My recomendation: give it up; think for yourself. Excuse the intrusion, but the anarchist principles

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)

2000-12-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Excuse the intrusion, but the anarchist principles you've argued in this thread were also of "dead men" -- and fellow anarchists -- Lysander Spooner for one. Anarchism is a dynamic, evolving philosophy. We continue to grow, by synergistically integrating the wisdom of the

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-15 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- Exactly as I said, Jesus did Not preach these things as God-given rights. Actually Jesus did preach against these things. Don't fornicate and do unto others...I wouldn't want my child to kill me, so I shouldn't kill my child. Is it that hard to figure out? From CBNnow

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)

2000-12-15 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: There are no supernatural beings. There are no supernatural any things. By definition, nothing is beyond Nature. However, some of Nature we do not understand (yet). Some of Nature we do not even perceive (yet). That is so ironic, Nessie, that you could say that

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Johannes Schmidt III
-Caveat Lector- You people are in serious need of a visit by the Forget About Jesus Crusade. Forget about Jesus! Put him out of your mind! He probably never existed! Don't spend all your time trying to pour scorn on him either, that's just as bad! Don't deny Christ, forget about Him! Find

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- Oh yeah, we'd all be better off forgetting about Jesus. The first man in history to give a loving, wonderful message that we can teach our children to make them better people, and we should just drop it! What do you teach your kids? "Make it on your own, do what you have to do

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Johannes Schmidt III
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:52:44 -0800 Vera Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Oh yeah, we'd all be better off forgetting about Jesus. The first man in history to give a loving, wonderful message that we can teach our children to make them better people, and we should

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/13/2000 3:50:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right on Mulva! Don't let the pagans silence you, what you said is absolutely right. Jesus was not a liberal by today's standards, as some idgets claim. I never heard Jesus preach that

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Mike Switzer
From: Vera Harper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal -Caveat Lector- Prudy, That man was nothing more than a hypocrite if he allowed his daughter to have several abortions. However, I must wo

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- You would say we do need some government, yes? We need self government. We do not need the state. Maybe you don't necessarily like the one we have now, but are you against all forms of government? First of all, we don't have "a" form of government. We have many. They are

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- These people can't even form their own opinions, That's an unsubstantiated allegation. If you can't prove what you say, you're a lot better off saying nothing. That way you wont look stupid. The fact of the matter is that thinking for oneself is the very core of what it means

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-14 Thread Jayson R. Jones
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:41:32 -0800 Vera Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Mulva, Nessie is an anarchist. He believes we should all govern ourselves. Anarchy: The theory that regards the absence of all direct or coersive government as a political ideal and

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- Right on Mulva! Don't let the pagans silence you, what you said is absolutely right. Jesus was not a liberal by today's standards, as some idgets claim. I never heard Jesus preach that abortion was a woman's God-given right to choose, or that homosexuality was a choice

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Amelia
ge - From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/12/2000 1:58:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is difficult to understand h

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Jayson R. Jones
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:07:29 -0800 Mulva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Jesus whom IMHO is far above the class of any political association and is/was/always has been/always will be in the business of cleansing of us sins through His ultimate sacrifice so that we

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/13/2000 3:50:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right on Mulva! Don't let the pagans silence you, what you said is absolutely right. Jesus was not a liberal by today's standards, as some idgets claim. I never heard Jesus preach that

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/13/2000 9:46:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Prudy, you don't know what I know about the life of Christ nor what I consider important. This attack on people's religion is unwarranted on a conspiracy list and plenty tacky and

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Actually, Jesus wasn't a liberal. He was a revolutionary. That's why they killed him. Had he been a liberal, he would have supported the status quo and they would have left him alone. Instead, he went downtown and incited a riot and the rest is history. A

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Switzer
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal -Caveat Lector- Actually, Jesus wasn't a liberal. He was a revolutionary. That's why they killed him. Had he been a liberal, he would have supported the status quo and they would have left him alone. Instead, he went

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- He declared that since they were living under the protection of the Roman power, they should render to that power the support it claimed, so long as this did not conflict with a higher duty. But while peaceably subject to the laws of the land, they should at all times give their

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Guitar Virtuoso
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal -Caveat Lector- Actually, Jesus wasn't a liberal. He was a revolutionary.

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Mulva
0 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal -Caveat Lector- Actually, Jesus wasn't a liberal. He was a revolutionary. That's why they killed him. Had he been a liberal, he would have supported the status quo and they would have left him alone. Instead, he wen

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Mulva
-Caveat Lector- --- Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- He declared that since they were living under the protection of the Roman power, they should render to that power the support it claimed, so long as this did not conflict with a higher duty. But while peaceably subject

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- Mulva, Nessie is an anarchist. He believes we should all govern ourselves. These people can't even form their own opinions, so imagine how that could work! Actually, if all anarchists could just find the Lord, they wouldn't be that far off. From CBNnow web-based E-mail,

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Vera Harper
-Caveat Lector- Prudy, That man was nothing more than a hypocrite if he allowed his daughter to have several abortions. However, I must wonder if he was more angry that maybe his daughter had those abortions without being told. Either way, he is wrong. If his daughter is that loose,

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-13 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- Better an anarchist than an antichrist! On 14 Dec 00, at 6:41, Vera Harper wrote: Mulva, Nessie is an anarchist. He believes we should all govern ourselves. These people can't even form their own opinions, so imagine how that could work! Actually, if all

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- On 12 Dec 00, at 0:06, BB wrote: Steve, where do you COME UP with this stuff?? My mind. Are you very angry at everybody?? No not at all. A few liberals are christians.. Ok. Where were you given insight to Jesus' heart and mind?? No more than you have, but I

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Where were you given insight to Jesus' heart and mind?? Maybe he read the New Testament. You should do this yourself. Read a version in which Jesus's words are in red ink. Remember, only the stuff in red ink counts. Everything else is commentary. A

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Jayson R. Jones
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:06:19 -0700 BB [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Steve, where do you COME UP with this stuff?? Are you very angry at everybody?? A few liberals are christians.. Where were you given insight to Jesus' heart and mind?? I can't answer for Steve

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread outlawlady
-Caveat Lector- Dear Steve: You are correct. God is a "space alien" and so is the Devil. He is the "Prince of the Air" according to Scripture. God's name, however, is not "yalweh." It is "Yahweh." I would like to invite you and the other readers to check out "In Their Own Words." The

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Mulva
-Caveat Lector- Jesus whom IMHO is far above the class of any political association and is/was/always has been/always will be in the business of cleansing of us sins through His ultimate sacrifice so that we would have a path to His Father's Kingdom also said, "Render therefore unto Caesar the

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Jesus ... said, "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's." Luke 20:22-25. Translation: Give the government what the law says but don't make them your God Aren't you being just a tad presumptuous to translate Jesus. He said what he said. Period. The question

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread craig
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Mulva" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2000 19:07 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal -Caveat Lector- Jesus whom IMHO is far above the class of any below? political association and is/was/always

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/12/2000 2:06:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few liberals are christians.. Where were you given insight to Jesus' heart and mind?? Yes, a few liberals are Christians. Very, very few conservatives are Christians.It's all

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/12/2000 1:58:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is difficult to understand how the Christian Conservatives can rant against the 'evil liberals' when their own Saviour, Jesus Christ was a liberal, even a radical of his time, who so

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Mulva
-Caveat Lector- --- craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MUCH SNIPPAGE NOTHING to kindly welcome Mulva to the list! Seriously, Craig, it's my belief. If you think Im nuts, I can live with that I suppose and I will not discuss the matter further on the list because no one probably wants that. I will

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-12 Thread Amelia
liberals do not want to hear that sort of thing. Slippery slope, is religion. IMHO. AKE - Original Message - From: "Nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal -Caveat Lector- Where were you

[CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-11 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- It is difficult to understand how the Christian Conservatives can rant against the 'evil liberals' when their own Saviour, Jesus Christ was a liberal, even a radical of his time, who so incensed his religious contemporaries that they had him crucified. But now liberalism is

Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal

2000-12-11 Thread BB
-Caveat Lector- Steve, where do you COME UP with this stuff?? Are you very angry at everybody?? A few liberals are christians.. Where were you given insight to Jesus' heart and mind?? Steve Wingate wrote: -Caveat Lector- It is difficult to understand how the Christian Conservatives can