RE: Brands on privacy

2000-03-01 Thread Austin Hill
Zero-Knowledge will not include policy based restrictions with regards to our licensing. By this I mean that we will not attempt to say "You can use the patents for these purposes (Private payment of Birth Control Information) but not for these purposes (Private payment to adult erotica)" Any

Re: Not an unexpected verdict ...

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Burnes
Jim Choate wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Jim Burnes wrote: > > > Jim Choate wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > Wrong. The police are here to enforce laws and arrest people. They have > > > > no legal obligation to protect. It'd be nice if it really

Re: About payee untraceability ...

2000-03-01 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
Stefan Brands writes: > This is to comment on the rumour circulating here that I strongly > oppose payee anonymity. Some of the "Fuck this and/or Stefan" > - type remarks suggest that there is a misunderstanding. In fairness we should note that those who claim that Stefan has changed his posit

Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT!

2000-03-01 Thread Tim May
At 4:29 PM -0800 3/1/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >At 11:43 AM -0800 on 3/1/00, Tim May wrote: > >> I thought you (R.A. Hettinga) agreed not to forward my articles to your >> stable of lists? > >Actually, I may be wrong, but I'm not sure I agreed to that at all.

Hotmail

2000-03-01 Thread John Young
What is going around as a way to warn users of Hotmail that the originating address is not concealed, as with Alex Rogers below? We got Hotmail the other day claiming that Queen Elizabeth was to be assassinated by thugs hired by Mohammah al-Fayed in Sidney, Australia, in March. Our response ask

Re: Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT!

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Tim May wrote: > Perhaps you are right. I am asking you, then, to not do it. Not because I > "own" my words here, but because readers on other lists lack context. (Few > of our articles are self-contained articles in the way magazine articles > are meant to be.) Whine, whin

Re: Reliable Remailers

2000-03-01 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: COQUIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I was using one located at > comm.pub.ro and it worked pretty good but as of late the program is not > working well with it. comm.pub.ro??? We have one in Romania??? Boy, I really need to get up-to-date on this one, don't I? Mark

Re: Justice Department criticizes online anonymity

2000-03-01 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:36 PM 3/1/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Of more relevance to this list, perhaps, is yesterday's testimony of the >FBI's Michael Vatis with the bureau's usual crypto-complaints: Michael was the FBI chief I put on the spot at the '98 RSA conference. He proudly pitched how the FBI's N

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Sunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It might not even be the "standard of living" making for the disparity, but > rather the value of the dollar versus the value of the local currency. Sure, > these guys make $20 a month, but that $20 a month would buy them as much as our > $2

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But with our institution of intellectual property, it becomes possible > to keep competition at bay such that the consumer has no choice but to > either live without the product or service completely, or hand over > the money to the corporation. T

Re: LogJam

2000-03-01 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Which brings up another topic. How would libraries be funded in a > true libertarian society? Privately? 8-) 8-) I've given that a lot of > thought, and am quite familiar with library costs, etc. There's not any poss

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2000-03-01 Thread ROSSIJoeR8
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Wen Ho Lee and links

2000-03-01 Thread bill payne
John Nice to talk to you. The Lee matter is truly scary because of the crooked judges and courts. I'd appreciate it if you would fixed the links to Morales' and my pages at jya.com. As the appeals at the tenth and state lawsuits progress, this will be important. You can find the links at

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2000-03-01 Thread ROSSIJoeR8

Great American Gas Out

2000-03-01 Thread The Raifords
Subject: Fw: Great American Gas Out This message was received and forwarded - please forward it! Anytime we can stick it to them it's a good day. Last year on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged across Canada and the U.S. to bring the price of gas down, and it worked. It's time to do somethi

The Gadaffi Report

2000-03-01 Thread alex Rogers
Whoever knows the address where I can find the MI6 report on the Gadaffi assasination plot will they please send it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I say this as I believe as many people as possible need to know the truth about the British intelligence services and their wide abuse of power as we

Re: Not an unexpected verdict ...

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Burnes
Jim Choate wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Wrong. The police are here to enforce laws and arrest people. They have > > no legal obligation to protect. It'd be nice if it really were that way, > > but it isn't. > > Wrong, police are here to serve and protect. The

Re: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

2000-03-01 Thread William H. Geiger III
In , on 03/01/00 at 04:29 PM, "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >First XCert (nice guys, and all, but...) do WOT in X.509. Now Sonera does >X.509 in PGP. >The ganglia twitch... Actually NAI did X.509 in PGP quite a while ago. Should be interestin

Re: Re: Not an unexpected verdict ...

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Jim Burnes wrote: > Jim Choate wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Wrong. The police are here to enforce laws and arrest people. They have > > > no legal obligation to protect. It'd be nice if it really were that way, > > > but it isn't.

About payee untraceability ...

2000-03-01 Thread Stefan Brands
Hi all, This is to comment on the rumour circulating here that I strongly oppose payee anonymity. Some of the "Fuck this and/or Stefan" - type remarks suggest that there is a misunderstanding. What I said in my interview with Declan last week at FC2000 was that I (personally!) believe that fu

MP3.Communicator: Free CD, Stickdeath, Louis Armstrong and more!

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X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

2000-03-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
First XCert (nice guys, and all, but...) do WOT in X.509. Now Sonera does X.509 in PGP. The ganglia twitch... Cheers, RAH [Yahoo! Finance]Home - Yahoo! - Help[Business Wire] ---

Circulating Gold as Currency

2000-03-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:34:04 -0500 To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: James Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Circulating Gold as Currency Dear Mr. Hettinga, I understand that some recent postings on the cypherpunks list have mentioned the patents I ha

RE: PUBLISHING WITHOUT PERISHING (Edupage, 28 February 2000)

2000-03-01 Thread Fisher Mark
> PUBLISHING WITHOUT PERISHING My point in forwarding this was to point out that this scheme is vulnerable to government harassment, especially as it seems easier these days to sue for the unmasking of anonymous authors. Again, another example where anonymous bearer digital cash and strong cryp

No Subject

2000-03-01 Thread Secret Squirrel
Subject: modem attack notes Eric C posted about modem-based DDoS attacks using hayes sequences to dial a third party via ping data. Amusingly, I was unable to forward his letter as-is since it killed my modem connection. I find that a url has the same effect. Much potential for disconnect fu

University prof writes letter to editor -- sex harassment

2000-03-01 Thread Declan McCullagh
> Thought you might find this item interesting. > > > > Copyright 2000 The Saturday Oklahoman > THE SATURDAY OKLAHOMAN > > February 26, 2000, Saturday CITY EDITION > >HEADLINE: Professor's letter draws ire > >BYLINE: E

Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT!

2000-03-01 Thread Tim May
At 11:05 AM -0800 3/1/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >--- begin forwarded text > > >Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:51:42 + >Subject: Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT! >From: Somebody >To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >R. A. Hettinga e-said that Tim May e-said: > I thought y

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread David Honig
At 08:15 AM 3/1/00 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: dressed under >our present system to get it working well again. Those changes won't >happen easily because our culture is wearing the blinders of false >profits. Do you mean dotcom IPOs or false prophets? :-)

Re: Justice Department criticizes online anonymity

2000-03-01 Thread Tim May
At 10:36 AM -0800 3/1/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Of more relevance to this list, perhaps, is yesterday's testimony of the >FBI's Michael Vatis with the bureau's usual crypto-complaints: > >http://www.house.gov/judiciary/3.htm >convicted terrorist Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the World Trade

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, David Honig wrote: > At 08:15 AM 3/1/00 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > dressed under > >our present system to get it working well again. Those changes won't > >happen easily because our culture is wearing the blinders of false > >profits. > > Do you mean dotcom IPOs or false pr

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: whyworry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Sunder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm not saying that life isn't hard. I'm not saying that life is ever > going to be easy -- but I'd like to make a society that cushions it as > much as we can. Thats why we get together and make societies in the first > place .. to make life easier for individuals;

Re: Not an unexpected verdict ...

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wrong. The police are here to enforce laws and arrest people. They have > no legal obligation to protect. It'd be nice if it really were that way, > but it isn't. Wrong, police are here to serve and protect. They protect by enforcing laws. They

Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT!

2000-03-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:51:42 + Subject: Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT! From: Somebody To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R. A. Hettinga e-said that Tim May e-said: > For example, online services like AOL maintain special liason offic

Re: Not an unexpected verdict ...

2000-03-01 Thread phelix
On 1 Mar 2000 06:26:12 -0600, Sunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Reese wrote: >> > >> >Actually, there's no evidence that Yabbadabbadoo Diallo "refused to talk" >> ^ >> Was that really necessary? Why not just "Diallo?" > >IMHO Tim seems to subc

Justice Department criticizes online anonymity

2000-03-01 Thread Declan McCullagh
Of more relevance to this list, perhaps, is yesterday's testimony of the FBI's Michael Vatis with the bureau's usual crypto-complaints: http://www.house.gov/judiciary/3.htm convicted terrorist Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the World Trade Center bombing, stored detailed plans to destroy Unite

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: whyworry?)

2000-03-01 Thread mgraffam
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Sunder wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Most Americans are so dependent, so hopelessly inurred with the current > > > lifestyle that they wouldn't recognize communism if it bit them in the ass. > > > > Agreed. That is precisely my point -- and yet they condemn it

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Sunder wrote: > Amen brother! Sing it again! Ain't nothing sweeter than freedom. And that's > as capitalist as you can get. Capitalism is not equivalent to freedom in any manner. If anything the pursuit of capitalist goals has driven more abuse than help by many orders o

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Sunder
Missouri FreeNet Administration wrote: > > :Erm, what, Russia is not good enough an example for you? > > No, it is definitely not. the USSR (not "Russia" BTW) was no more a > genuine communist state than the US is a genuine capitalist state. > :If you agree (and I > :don't speak for you) that

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Sunder wrote: > > > So then, what's the answer? Capitalism or Crapunism under anarchy? :) > > Dunno .. but I sort of suspect that if we could pull off a true anarchy > that it wouldn't matter much. > > Individuals could clump

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Sunder
Amen brother! Sing it again! Ain't nothing sweeter than freedom. And that's as capitalist as you can get. Now if only Uncle Sam would stop fucking it over with bullshit anti-gun, anti-speech, insane taxes, and pro-bureocractic regulation bullshit laws! Curtis Fockler wrote: > > Come on out

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread mgraffam
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Sunder wrote: > So then, what's the answer? Capitalism or Crapunism under anarchy? :) Dunno .. but I sort of suspect that if we could pull off a true anarchy that it wouldn't matter much. Individuals could clump together and institute whatever sort of socio-economic system

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread mgraffam
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Curtis Fockler wrote: > People and the right, yeah, I think the USA is good enough for me. Yeah we > have Waco, Ruby ridge and all the crap. But we are able to have all the crap > and play a role in it if we want. > > Try that somewhere else in the world and see what happ

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: whyworry?)

2000-03-01 Thread mgraffam
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Any government needs appropriate leadership, > > that is an assumption, as yet unproven. I agree that it DOES sound good, > but it is still an assumption. since the rest of your argument rests on > it, you should give it a litt

Re: Political realities (was " damn commie hypocrite leech!")

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: > Jim Choate wrote: > > > in our time, if it exists, it's probably patented. > > > > I'd say there is never any truth, only observations and opinions. > > Everything else is mental masturbation. > > that depends a lot. I wouldn't (anymore) doubt that there

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Sunder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Not a problem. You get them an emergency, you feed them FUD and scare them, > > and they'll bend over in every direction you ask. Hell, just scream terrorist > > and they'll happily put up with all sorts of nonsense to take a plane ride. > > Wow. You're good at t

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Sunder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Most Americans are so dependent, so hopelessly inurred with the current > > lifestyle that they wouldn't recognize communism if it bit them in the ass. > > Agreed. That is precisely my point -- and yet they condemn it with all > of the passion that the state says

Re: Reliable Remailers

2000-03-01 Thread Bill Stewart
Use the web-based remailer interfaces at www.zedz.net or www.anonymizer.com At 05:59 PM 02/29/2000 -0800, COQUIL wrote: >I am interested in finding a server perferably one on the east coast to send >several anonymous emails. Here is the deal. I am truning in some people and >exposing condition w

BXA Updated Crypto Regs

2000-03-01 Thread John Young
BXA Updated Commercial Encryption Export Controls February 28, 2000 http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Encryption/Default.htm This provides links to the following: Export of Encryption Technology http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Encryption/tech.htm Updated Q&A http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Encryption/qanda.htm E

Re: Political realities (was " damn commie hypocrite leech!")

2000-03-01 Thread Tom Vogt
Jim Choate wrote: > > in our time, if it exists, it's probably patented. > > I'd say there is never any truth, only observations and opinions. > Everything else is mental masturbation. that depends a lot. I wouldn't (anymore) doubt that there are simple truths within context. for example, there

Re: Political realities (was " damn commie hypocrite leech!")

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: > Jim Choate wrote: > > > two different explanations. how can we find out which one is closer to > > > the truth? > > > > What truth? > > in our time, if it exists, it's probably patented. I'd say there is never any truth, only observations and opinions.

Re: Political realities (was " damn commie hypocrite leech!")

2000-03-01 Thread Tom Vogt
Jim Choate wrote: > > two different explanations. how can we find out which one is closer to > > the truth? > > What truth? in our time, if it exists, it's probably patented. > What makes you think there couldn't be even more factors like > religous, economic, or raw resource issues as well.

Re: Political realities (was " damn commie hypocrite leech!")

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: > two different explanations. how can we find out which one is closer to > the truth? What truth? What makes you think there couldn't be even more factors like religous, economic, or raw resource issues as well. Quit looking for easy answers. > and again

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Any government needs appropriate leadership, especially in its > infancy.. and those leaders need to be dedicated to that government > deep in their bones. What do you mean by leadership? An elite? That is a historical falacy based in the belief

Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Curtis Fockler
Come on out of the basement boys. Try North Korea and Cuba for a commie view, for all you socialist, take a look at European friends, yeah that works well, or maybe take a look at what the bitch wanted to do with health care, thank-you freaks who put that pair in office. Lets take a look

ADL calls for censorship on Yahoo

2000-03-01 Thread anonymous
Yahoo Asked To Shut Down Alleged Hate Sites (02/28/00, 11:25 a.m. ET) By Reuters SAN FRANCISCO -- A prominent Jewish group on Friday charged Yahoo violated its own rules by hosting alleged

VMware Customer Profile Update Acknowledgement

2000-03-01 Thread support
Thank you for updating you customer profile information. Our records have been updated with the following information: Name = Joe Cypherpunk Email Address = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization = Title = Address: Address 1 = Address 2 = Address 3 = City = Zip = State = Country = Phon

Canook mil to play with virii

2000-03-01 Thread anonymous
Monday 28 February 2000 Military sets up anti-hacker unit Team of 14 based in Ottawa DAVID PUGLIESE Ottawa Citizen The Departme

Spying with the Census and the Net

2000-03-01 Thread anonymous
Each household is assigned a specific code number printed on the form. It doubles as a log-in password for the World Wide Web site. Whoever logs in will then be able to type in the answers to the questions for anyone who lives in the home. What, me

Re: Re: damn commie hypocrite leech! (was Re: Re: Re: why worry?)

2000-03-01 Thread Tom Vogt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Any government needs appropriate leadership, that is an assumption, as yet unproven. I agree that it DOES sound good, but it is still an assumption. since the rest of your argument rests on it, you should give it a little more support. > especially in its > infancy.

Re: FW: PUBLISHING WITHOUT PERISHING (Edupage, 28 February 2000)

2000-03-01 Thread Tom Vogt
Fisher Mark wrote: > author's anonymity, and site creator Angela Adair-Hoy says she > will release the authors names only under court order. I doubt that is enough. the litigation hysteria in the us of a is at an all-time-high as far as I can see. a court order should not be difficult to come

Re: Political realities (was " damn commie hypocrite leech!")

2000-03-01 Thread Tom Vogt
Jim Choate wrote: > > say, isn't the fact that there hasn't been a communist state despite > > several attempts to create one a good proof that the concept is not > > implementable? > > No, it simply means that there were political and economic factors > sufficient to hijack the process. two d