CAPPS II in the news - Business case has CAPPS at risk

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Stewart
Government already has too many watch lists, eh? http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2003/0324/web-capps-03-25-03.asp Business case has CAPPS at risk BY Diane Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] March 25, 2003 Money is far from certain for the Transportation Security Administration's proposed system to

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Stewart
At 04:14 PM 03/26/2003 +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: The RAF used an EFP in 1989 to assassinate the chairman of Deutsche Bank I assume that's some Italian or German group's acronym and not Britain's Royal Air Force? :-) (Besides, I thought assassinations were usually an SAS (Special Air Service,

Re: faking WMD evidence

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 04:51 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: Yeah, like that'll not only get lots of cooperation out of all the spooks, but I'm sure it'll also result in the FBI being highly motivated to probe deeply and tell Congress everything it finds out... At least when the KGB

Re: Boycotting the Unwilling

2003-03-26 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:12 PM 3/25/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: Granted, neither you nor I will be jailed for refusing to buy Matzah balls made in the Zionist Entity, but the point is that the law says we _could_ be jailed for boycotting. Naturally, the law is applied to those most visible. What use is a

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Peter Gutmann
Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to recall that with sufficient knowledge and commonly available detonators shaped explosive charges can be configured to hurl heavy explosive payloads, much like a mortar, with fair accuracy, great distance or very high velocity. I can't seem to find

RE: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread John Kelsey
At 04:37 AM 3/25/03 +0100, Lucky Green wrote: ... If any terrorists had nukes, why have they not used them so far? Suppose you only have one, it was really hard to get, and you're not sure how much of your US network has been turned, or at least placed under heavy surveilance? Maybe you wait

Re: US may fabricate discovery of WMD

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 11:10 AM, stuart wrote: From Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty: ...AS OTHERS LAUNCH PREEMPTIVE INFORMATION STRIKE AGAINST U.S. The United States might fabricate the discovery of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or create evidence that Baghdad has been operating

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread Trei, Peter
Sarad AV[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi, it doesnt matter as long as Al-Jazeera is live and kicking and the camera's are rolling. The highly classified bomb creates a brief pulse of microwaves powerful enough to fry computers, blind radar, silence radios, trigger crippling power

Re: CDR: Boycotting the Unwilling

2003-03-26 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Eric Cordian wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the US will happily throw Americans in prison for refusing to do business with Israel, because Congress has made it illegal to support any boycott of the Beanie-Headed Land Grabbers. Hrmmm.. Got a citation for this one?

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread Tyler Durden
Has anyone ever heard of that carbon filament soft bomb that's designed to spread wispy carbon filaments over power plants? I've even seen a photo of the aftermath of one of these things... From: Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Sarad AV' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

Re: US may fabricate discovery of WMD

2003-03-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: In the unlikely event that the North Koreans wanted to send a nuke to the USA, they might not need an ICBM. Just bribe or otherwise subvert a It would be a shipment running some risk of detection, especially given a hot warhead, which is difficult to

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:41 PM 3/25/03 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: ...from the Leg-HERFing department... Cheers, RAH Who expects it was just a bomb-bomb, Jim. They came back with a bigger one, just now. Yep. The COW needs the TVs to broadcast our message. Also we don't trust the infiltrated spec-ops radios not

Re: US may fabricate discovery of WMD

2003-03-26 Thread Ken Brown
Tim May wrote: [...] The American CIA, DIA, FBI, ONI, and other groups are quite capable of producing fake cargo manifest, fake credentials, fakes of all other kinds, and of planting faked evidence. The kind of people who sell foreign foods to corner shops and ethnic restaurants are capable

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread Sunder
It's now been changed to the following. Did you manage to save a copy you can forward back to the list? :) Baghdad Targets Under Fire March 26, 2003 Coalition forces struck Baghdad again Wednesday, hitting targets associated with Iraq's intelligence service and state television . and killing

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 03:30 AM, Ken Brown wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: Or perhaps we'll see someone take a GPS-controlled small plane, which can carry 1,000 lbs, and turn it into a flying bomb or delivery system for something quite noxious. These planes can be rented by the hour at

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread Sarad AV
hi, it doesnt matter as long as Al-Jazeera is live and kicking and the camera's are rolling. The highly classified bomb creates a brief pulse of microwaves powerful enough to fry computers, blind radar, silence radios, trigger crippling power outages and disable the electronic ignitions in

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Sarad AV
hi, They are not working very well or US since the iraqi's are using gps jammers and US are already in a row with russians claiming that they sold it to iraq. Regards Sarath. --- Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 03:30 AM, Ken Brown wrote: Declan McCullagh

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Ken Brown
Bill Stewart wrote: At 04:14 PM 03/26/2003 +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: The RAF used an EFP in 1989 to assassinate the chairman of Deutsche Bank I assume that's some Italian or German group's acronym and not Britain's Royal Air Force? :-) (Besides, I thought assassinations were usually an

Illegal to refuse to sell to Israel (was Re: Boycotting the Unwilling)

2003-03-26 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Neil Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2003 08:36 pm, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Eric Cordian wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the US will happily throw Americans in prison for refusing to do business with Israel, because Congress has made it

Re: Boycotting the Unwilling

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 06:36 PM, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Eric Cordian wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the US will happily throw Americans in prison for refusing to do business with Israel, because Congress has made it illegal to support any boycott of the

Re: Boycotting the Unwilling

2003-03-26 Thread Neil Johnson
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 08:36 pm, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Eric Cordian wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the US will happily throw Americans in prison for refusing to do business with Israel, because Congress has made it illegal to support any boycott of the

Re: CDR: Boycotting the Unwilling

2003-03-26 Thread Eric Cordian
J.A. Terranson wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the US will happily throw Americans in prison for refusing to do business with Israel, because Congress has made it illegal to support any boycott of the Beanie-Headed Land Grabbers. Hrmmm.. Got a citation for this one? As far out in the

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 09:22 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: At 04:14 PM 03/26/2003 +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: The RAF used an EFP in 1989 to assassinate the chairman of Deutsche Bank I assume that's some Italian or German group's acronym and not Britain's Royal Air Force? :-) (Besides, I

Re: The Highway of Death II

2003-03-26 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 25 Mar 2003 at 9:40, Tim May wrote: * As for the war, I'm not a military buff, but this 400-km convoy snaking across the desert looks to be a classical logistical nightmare. The obvious tactic for the Iraqis is to disperse to move around, and to concentrate to attack particular

Re: faking WMD evidence

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:59 AM 03/25/2003 -0800, Eric Murray wrote: Apparently the CIA and MI6 have been faking WMD evidence for quite a while: http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030331fa_fact1 That's why Friends of Bush like Richard Perle refer to Seymour Hersch, the author, as Hersch is the closest thing

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Peter Gutmann
Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 04:14 PM 03/26/2003 +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: The RAF used an EFP in 1989 to assassinate the chairman of Deutsche Bank I assume that's some Italian or German group's acronym and not Britain's Royal Air Force? :-) Red Army Faction, a German terrorist

Re: US may fabricate discovery of WMD

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:08 AM, Ken Brown wrote: In the unlikely event that the North Koreans wanted to send a nuke to the USA, they might not need an ICBM. Just bribe or otherwise subvert a few shipping clerks in South Korea or China and get them shipped over in a container of

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread Eric Murray
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 03:24:01AM -0800, Sarad AV wrote: it doesnt matter as long as Al-Jazeera is live and kicking and the camera's are rolling. Yesterday morning I could get to english.aljazeera.net. As of yesterday afternoon, it has become unavailable. Supposedly they are victims of

Russian opposition to Iraq war not all altrustic

2003-03-26 Thread Neil Johnson
According to: http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2002/1004privatiz.htm We have interests in the oil sector of the Iraqi economy, said Mikhail Margelov, chairman of the international affairs committee of Russia's Federation Council, or upper house. When I say interests, I do not mean only

Re: World Book Encyclopedia, 2004 Edition: Iraq

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 03:20 PM, Steve Schear wrote: Iraq, the proud new 51st state of the USA, was once a seething hive of freedom-hating terrorists linked to international terrorism. American-led nation building projects begun after the 2003 War of Liberation have transformed a

World Book Encyclopedia, 2004 Edition: Iraq

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Schear
Iraq, the proud new 51st state of the USA, was once a seething hive of freedom-hating terrorists linked to international terrorism. American-led nation building projects begun after the 2003 War of Liberation have transformed a population of terrorized victims into members of an open society

Re: US may fabricate discovery of WMD

2003-03-26 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:01 AM 3/26/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: I no doubt said this, but so have many others. I remember hearing many years ago that if hundreds of tons of marijuana cross U.S. borders each year undetected, how can software and crypto be blocked? Even post 911 you can fly a copter from Quebec and

The other white meat (was Re: The Highway of Death II)

2003-03-26 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 7:42 AM -0800 on 3/26/03, James A. Donald wrote: On 25 Mar 2003 at 9:40, Tim May wrote: * As for the war, I'm not a military buff, but this 400-km convoy snaking across the desert looks to be a classical logistical nightmare. The obvious

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread John Young
Here's a diagram and after-use photos of the carbon filament bomb, as used in the 1999 FYU live weapons test: http://cryptome.org/blu114-yu.htm The e-bomb has been extensively covered since Australian Carlo Kopp published his description (invention?) of it: http://cryptome.org/ebomb.htm

Re: Boycotting the Unwilling

2003-03-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:56:04AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Try using both voice and action (long time readers know the hazards of mixing these) ---e.g., actively publicize a boycott on .il items, get a Mom Pop grocery to go along, and see how much I've always liked this:

Re: US may fabricate discovery of WMD

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:46 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: In the unlikely event that the North Koreans wanted to send a nuke to the USA, they might not need an ICBM. Just bribe or otherwise subvert a It would be a shipment running some risk of

Enraptured in Babylon

2003-03-26 Thread Tim May
Remember what we were talking about a few days ago, about Bush maybe seeing himself as the key actor in a Christian fundamentalist millenialist Left Behind Rapture sequence? Remember what I said about Babylon, the Antichrist, JC's reign for a thousand years? The Washington Post ran an

RE: Things are looking better all the time [TERROR ALERT: Cerenkov Blue]

2003-03-26 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:12 PM 3/25/03 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: At 04:37 AM 3/25/03 +0100, Lucky Green wrote: ... If any terrorists had nukes, why have they not used them so far? Suppose you only have one, it was really hard to get, and you're not sure how much of your US network has been turned, or at least

Off-topic: Feds tout highway pork as creating jobs

2003-03-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
Off-topic, but so economically naive I felt compelled to share... --Declan --- Contact: Steve Hansen (Republican Director of Communications) (202) 225-7749 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justin Harclerode (Republican Deputy Director of Communications) (202) 226-8767

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread John Young
Why not load a POW or dead body with biologicals and return them to the UN for handing over to the US for return to a heroe's welcome, or to a hospital in Germany, emitting toxics to every caretaker, then on to a recruitment parade down Broadway and photo op at the Whitge House and the Pentagon

I did my part in the war effort...

2003-03-26 Thread Tyler Durden
This is sure to piss off true-believing, knee-jerk subscribing feds on our list (though I consider it possible that some such feds are as pissed off as many of us right now)... Landed in an airport this afternoon, and had to take a piss. Went into a stall and there was some debris around the

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-26 Thread Neil Johnson
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 05:26 am, Sarad AV wrote: hi, They are not working very well or US since the iraqi's are using gps jammers and US are already in a row with russians claiming that they sold it to iraq. In a news conference on Tuesday, some general claimed they had located and

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:40 AM 3/26/2003 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: Sarad AV[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi, it doesnt matter as long as Al-Jazeera is live and kicking and the camera's are rolling. The highly classified bomb creates a brief pulse of microwaves powerful enough to fry computers, blind