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it as a guide, or just adapt it. it could be better, but
as is will work for most OF 1.0.5 machines.
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the CD post-boot is fine, its on
the same scsi bus as the disk, so if you plan to actually install you
would need the right scsi driver anyway.
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On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote:
Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
also .coff kernels don't even work until 2.4.23 (maybe).
ask ben herrenschmidt about that actually
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:29:43AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote:
Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
also .coff kernels don't even work
late. the bootstrap partition must be the
first one created.
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it right, it
needs to depend on yaboot since yaboot provides ofpath.
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On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:49:16AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:33:53AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:19:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
a .coff kernel won't autoboot, the user would have to manually get
into OpenFirmware and boot
care.
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is i
think a bit beyond saying that comething is broken crap.
i never said anyone was retarded. i said yaboot-installer was a
complete retarded mess. which it is.
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level kernel bootstrapping, or even of the powerpc
architecture, the current problems don't have anything to do with
either.
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as they are far to important to be maintained by
hostile individuals who DO NOT have Debian users interests in mind.
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thank you.
Ethan? It seems like you've been attempting to calm down the rhetoric
lately?
It is Joey who is spewing personal attacks against me, him and your
great release manager.
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for all parts of the base install.
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 06:12:13PM -0700, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Tue Nov 13, 2001 at 06:16:23AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
# Make the dynamic linker executable
-ld_file = find_lib(ld-linux.so.2)
+ld_file = find_lib(ld.so.1)
ld_file_name = os.path.basename(ld_file)
os.chmod
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:03:13AM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:57:59PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
BTW, is anyone working on 2.4 PowerMac boot disks then?
Colin Walters and i were going to look at it shortly, do
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:13:25AM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
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don't really have the capability or the time to attempt that.
Colin Walters tried but said it would not build.
Well, I guess we're SOL since no one can build it.
cd images
: switch to an architecture using 2.4 by default.
2: make your own custom set of boot-floppies.
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:33:26PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue Nov 13, 2001 at 06:16:23AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
# Make the dynamic linker executable
-ld_file = find_lib(ld-linux.so.2)
+ld_file = find_lib(ld.so.1
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:42:10PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
People with such old hardware are probably better of with bo or hamm
or potato. They probably need the low-mem target too.
which are not (or will not in potato's case) be supported with
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(making mount point %s, real_mount_point);
if (! mkdir(real_mount_point, WithMode)) {
chmod(real_mount_point, WithMode);
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:53:16PM +1300, Mark van Walraven wrote:
partition_config::mount_partition() uses mode 01777 when creating /tmp
as a mount-point, but doesn't
the dynamic linker executable
-ld_file = find_lib(ld-linux.so.2)
+ld_file = find_lib(ld.so.1)
ld_file_name = os.path.basename(ld_file)
os.chmod(dest_path + / + ld_file_name, 0755)
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~$ dpkg -s libc6 | grep ^Ver
Version: 2.2.4-5
eb@dogbert ~$ uname -m
ppc
furthermore from looking at rootdisk.sh more archs use ld.so.1 then
use ld-linux.so.2. look at the list for yourself.
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:07:49AM +1300, Mark van Walraven wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 04:20:36AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 12:02:18PM +0100, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
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what good will this do? the permissions
in /archives/
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On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 10:40:05AM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 12:51:42AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 08:38:31PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Ethan == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ethan we are not talking about this, we
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the install root disk,
though?
because the s390 console is too broken for words.
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is stored in /instmnt/dists/woody/main/binary-$ARCH.
wrong. dists/woody/Release is the correct file. if its missing your
CD is broken. the Release files under binary-$arch are not complete.
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On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 07:12:01AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:44:15PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:53:13PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Othmar Pasteka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
just something what everyboday should know if he/she
On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 08:38:31PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Ethan == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ethan we are not talking about this, we are talking about
Ethan base-config rm -rf'ing /var/cache/apt WITHOUT ASKING.
Hmmm... Maybe I misunderstood something, but my
a new
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to DEBUG_SPAM yields:
Still need: atexit
ditto!
Builds ok with mklibs.sh (I haven't tried a test install yet).
mklibs.py is broken, but nobody knows why.
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solution, the correct solution is
for the base-config maintainer to cooperate and fix this, but if he
refuses to be useful we shall have to fix it another way (unless
someone wishes to NMU and reNMU when new versions revert the fix.)
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:57:59PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
BTW, is anyone working on 2.4 PowerMac boot disks then?
Colin Walters and i were going to look at it shortly, do you have any
suggestions on the best method to implement flavors for different
kernel versions?
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be resolved, i hope :).
there is a documentation problem with G4 OpenFirwmare, someone needs
to properly analize it and find the proper way to configure the
netboot server. its also possible it only works with a proprietary
Apple extended version of dhcpd.
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the release manager
would allow it anyway).
i also fixed the potato make bootable step to refuse to run on
newworlds.
beyond these changes thats all thats going to change on potato
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don't allow you to rerun that step,
its automatically run after base install (since its non-interactive
now).
if your messing with partition ordering you need to edit /etc/fstab
yourself, or better do it before you install.
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and:
Extracting whiptail.
for 10 minutes.
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On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 04:49:15PM -0700, Nicolas Lopez wrote:
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We still need to do something about quik, ritual goat sacrifice is
somewhat tricky to implement in C...
- Ethan Benson on debian-boot 5-30-01
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yes, if it did we
would just use busybox's (assuming its version is even as full
featured as you seem to want it to be). all debootstrap needs is a
minimal command to spew newlines to dpkg, thats it.
thats why its called SMALLyes and not just yes.
endless pedantism deleted
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the
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On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:33:54PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
#include hallo.h
Ethan Benson wrote on Fri Oct 26, 2001 um 06:46:06AM:
the debootstrap progress dialog still sucks though, it stops on
`extracting whiptail...' and never changes until debootstrap finishes
and then the box
sucks though, it stops on
`extracting whiptail...' and never changes until debootstrap finishes
and then the box is popped. users will no doubt think something is
br0ke and do drastic things to make it broken.
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, depending on the subarch
this will be a Apple_Bootstrap type (macs, mac partition tables) or
0x41 (PReP, IBM CHRP, msdos partition tables).
ia64 also requires a similar bootstrap partition.
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(though it may
be the same as mac-fdisk, a 68K person would have to comment).
powerpcs using dos partition tables use fdisk of course. sparc uses
it as well.
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) this is not totally related to debian-boot, but are there any plans
to ship Woody with a 2.4 kernel ?
only on architectures which require it. (read not i386)
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On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 11:45:47AM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote:
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(3) in the post-boot configuration, why are MD5 passwords defaulted to
No ie not enabled ?
compatibility with crufty old unixes i suppose. if you were to make
the box into an NIS
into in b-f.
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/\+.*//;q'` }
busybox dd does not produce output like GNU dd.
Sort is a little harder, but feasible as a shell function. Wanna? :-)
BTW: does ls --block-size=1 -s look broken to you?
busybox ls doesn't know what that is.
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On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 01:45:39AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Fri Oct 19, 2001 at 11:20:18PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
busybox dd does not produce output like GNU dd.
So you have specifics? I've not seen a bug report from you.
well it at least didn't used to display any output
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 10:36:49PM +1300, Mark van Walraven wrote:
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 11:20:18PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 06:34:12PM +1300, Mark van Walraven wrote:
Substitute FILE for touch FILE.
that should already be done in the last patch or two
off leaving it alone, fscking with that mess
will probably just introduce more bugs then it will fix.
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 06:50:42PM -0700, Rob Bos wrote:
- /dev is 3k bigger
How practical would it be to compile devfs and include devfsd in the
bootfloppies?
the real installed system should not use devfs nor require it.
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 09:32:07PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:55:11PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
but as i have stated, even if you fix busybox to be smarter you still
have a giant stack of wildcards in all these random filesystems in the
kernel, are they going
mount -t ext3,ext2,xfs,reiserfs
where only those are tried in sequence.
but for right now my current code in dbootstrap is the ONLY safe and
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annihilate a formally working set of boot-floppies we don't
need to be talking about adding more possiblities for things like that
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partition is when
you install via a pile of floppies. otherwise its simply unpacked
from whatever partition, or NFS mount you are accessing it from.
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On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:52:26AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
only problem with it is the basedebs.tgz needs to match the
debootstrap it will be used with. so if debootstrap gets updated and
the basedebs.tgz gets
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 10:03:13AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 06:49:08AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
the only solution is building basedebs.tgz only with the version of
debootstrap that the latest build of b-f used. or accepting the fact
that you have
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space left. basedebs are
what? what is using 50MB? the kernel? i don't think so. the
basedebs.tgz is on the HFS partition not the ext2 partition (and its
never copied to the ext2 partition).
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really don't want the job of auditing every shell script used
in boot-floppies to see if it works with busybox ash, we know they
work with Herbert's ash just fine.
# some friendly symlinks
+ln -sf /usr/bin/route $R/sbin/route
this is a kludge, fix busybox.
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are broke.
all ~/ pages are at master.penguinppc.org
however i do not supply basedebs.tgz files anymore, and will not.
master.penguinppc.org is no longer on an unlimited bandwidth internet
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choose the Apple-USB keyboard layout command=alt
if you choose the other layout (don't remember what its called
offhand) then option=alt (the default from booting the kernel).
despite the name, Apple-USB works perfectly fine with apple adb keyboards.
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proprietary Apple CDROM drivers which require a
distribution licence. the only way to get this is by using a
proprietary, expensive CD burning software that only runs on MacOS, a
proprietary OS. thats exactly what LinuxPPC did, and what Debian will
NEVER do.
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So, would it make sense to have dbootstrap set boot-file to Linux by
default?
no see above.
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+#define BB_FEATURE_SORT_REVERSE
i severly doubt we need this.
// Enable uniqe sort
-//#define BB_FEATURE_SORT_UNIQUE
+#define BB_FEATURE_SORT_UNIQUE
i severly doubt we need this.
//
// Enable command line editing in the shell.
// Only relevant if a shell is enabled. On by default.
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a permission denied
on readlink and bail. (if its set -e like most other maintainer
scripts).
why is this only a problem on ia64/x86? i don't see this on powerpc.
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).
The udeb is only 72k though.
and it doesn't break powerpc unlike busybox ash. (i have already
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 05:38:16PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Wed Sep 26, 2001 at 03:28:51PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:05:17AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to have on the boot floppies) brings it to 59k. It looks
and expensive
proprietary software on a proprietary OS, and requiring a licence to
distribute the result. thats why debian will never have oldworld
bootable CDs.
for newworlds its quite easy, look at debian-cd source for how. (or
list archives where i have explained it a bit).
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 06:45:37PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Mon Sep 24, 2001 at 04:09:35PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
reopen 113503
thanks
busybox is still too bloated, 12k can be saved on powerpc by applying
the rest of my patch, a new patch is enclosed here:
Too bloated
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:25:19AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Tue Sep 25, 2001 at 12:11:29AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
busybox in potato was much smaller then busybox in woody, if you don't
wnat to remove all this bloat just make a bloody -bf package.
NMU should be done ASAP
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 12:04:28PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Also, what about busybox ash? Is that mature enough to use instead of
the proper ash package? Or did it have some problems?
it ignores posix.
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//
// Enable a nifty progress meter in wget (adds just under 2k)
-#define BB_FEATURE_WGET_STATUSBAR
+//#define BB_FEATURE_WGET_STATUSBAR
//
// Enable HTTP authentication in wget
#define BB_FEATURE_WGET_AUTHENTICATION
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) to work around that use ftp instead, ftp://ftp.kernel.org
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 02:30:58PM -0600, Hugo Graumann wrote:
* On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 11:28:06PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 10:06:59PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
At this rate debootstrap might get the base system loaded by next year
if I
is a wee bit overzealous...
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-linux.so.2 and
changed it to ld.so.1 (which is what powerpc uses). it still doesn't
work on chrp or pmac, only apus for some reason. all the others it
just goes on forever with one unresolved symbol.
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(ld_file)
os.chmod(dest_path + / + ld_file_name, 0755)
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the tar.gz of the modules directly
to the disk with a dd command?
the split images are in a special format, use the floppy_split utilty
built during the b-f build process.
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On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 11:55:23AM +0100, Matthew Sackman wrote:
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:42:33AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 11:20:50PM +0100, Matthew Sackman wrote:
Hi Guys,
I'm customising the bootfloppies 3.0.13 1.44 images for my own installation
from /target/... /usr/lib/yaboot
is a symlink to /target/usr/lib/yaboot
that was the only way especially given the discusting bloat of current
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busybox package ive been using
locally. (using the Config.h patch i posted to the list).
as soon as a busybox enters woody that doesn't include loads of
cruft things will be fine.
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On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 06:48:13PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
On Tue Sep 04, 2001 at 04:18:42PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
yup but again i still need busybox reduction since none of this reiser
stuff is on the powerpc disks, and i still have a problem with space
there.
Hmm
reduction pass 731
570 symbols, 1 unresolved
it just does that eternally. running in debug mode didn't reveal
anything more useful. isn't there any way for it to print the
unresolved symbol, and what binary it came from?
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that enchanted with supporting the crappy oldworlds much less the
oldoldworlds...
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On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:24:49AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
it doesn't seem to work on the chrp root image:
same for pmac i fiddled around a bit, but i can't tell whats going
on. (and i don't speak python in the least).
[...]
I: library reduction pass 727
570 symbols, 1 unresolved
I
the last unresolvable symbol for the powerpc root disks is:
calling readelf -s
/var/tmp/boot-floppies/root-tmp-14083/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0-so-stripped
Still need: atexit
570 symbols, 1 unresolved
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On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:32:33AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 03:05:02PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
sounds like an excellent reason debootstrap should NOT include
non-free in the list of Packages files it requires.
Ethan, take a pill already. You don't have
for a while.
this won't happen anymore since i added a check to see if the regular
root image is larger then the floppy sized image that gets created
(regardless of what size floppy). now the build will fail and whoever
is building will have to deal with it or not release.
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shell. There are no known bugs...
but has anyone actually done any regression testing of posix shell
scripts on it?
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