On 09/29/2015 02:11 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> Are
>> there any specific changes you object to
>
> As for the technical aspects, tests were disabled mentioning they
> access internet (and from the code it is not clear at all if they do,
> and I kinda doubt that)
It clearly showed access to the ou
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 09/29/2015 02:11 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>>> Are
>>> there any specific changes you object to
>>
>> As for the technical aspects, tests were disabled mentioning they
>> access internet (and from the code it is not clear at all if they do,
On 09/29/2015 04:02 PM, Tristan Seligmann wrote:
> but I'm not sure that having someone
> blindly upload my packages if they haven't worked on them before is a
> good idea.
If this is what you think of my upload, I don't agree with the above
wording at least.
On 09/29/2015 04:02 PM, Tristan Selig
On 09/29/2015 03:48 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Sep 29, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>
>> Once again, the python policy about Maintainer/Uploaders has been ignored
>>
>> either policy changes or this has to stop at some point.
>
> A few observations.
>
> The policy should perhaps be be
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 09/29/2015 03:48 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>>
>>> Once again, the python policy about Maintainer/Uploaders has been ignored
>>>
>>> either policy changes or this has to stop at some point.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> [Barry Warsaw, 2015-09-29]
>> How should the change be acknowledged by the
>> maintainer? Should I Cc the mailing list when I contact the maintainer? Is
>
> do we really need a written policy how to contact fellow co-maintainer?
> Ping on
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, at 01:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> This has driven
> some contributors away in the past, thinking we don't have team spirit.
> IMO, that's truth, and this kind of thread is hurting again.
Just to back this up: watching threads like this go past makes working
on/with Debian
On 30 September 2015 at 10:26, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, at 01:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> This has driven
>> some contributors away in the past, thinking we don't have team spirit.
>> IMO, that's truth, and this kind of thread is hurting again.
>
> Just to back this up: wa
On September 30, 2015 6:27:02 AM EDT, Dimitri John Ledkov
wrote:
>On 30 September 2015 at 10:26, Thomas Kluyver
>wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, at 01:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>> This has driven
>>> some contributors away in the past, thinking we don't have team
>spirit.
>>> IMO, that's t
> I see nothing wrong with Goirand's upload. I believe Sandro Tosi is
> still using the pre-binNMU, pre-NMU, pre-LowNMU, pre-Team packaging
> maintenance mentality which is not the commonly accepted behaviour and
> mentality in Debian anymore.
this is not a binNMU (which is irrelevant here), nor a
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I'd much prefer he was spending time reviewing jtaylor's patch to fix the
> python-numpy FTBFS on powerpc instead of being distracted by this argument.
slightly off topic here, but I plan to look at it and (if successful)
upload numpy th
On September 30, 2015 6:47:57 AM EDT, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott Kitterman
> wrote:
>> I'd much prefer he was spending time reviewing jtaylor's patch to fix
>the python-numpy FTBFS on powerpc instead of being distracted by this
>argument.
>
>slightly off topic he
Hi,
I made the following changes to both setuptools-scm and mistune :
* New upstream release.
* Switch maintainership from DPMT to myself.
Those packages both have their previous versions in testing+unstable.
They are available from here:
ssh://git.debian.org/git/python-modules/packages/mistune.
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 at 10:45 Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 09/29/2015 04:02 PM, Tristan Seligmann wrote:
> > but I'm not sure that having someone
> > blindly upload my packages if they haven't worked on them before is a
> > good idea.
>
> If this is what you think of my upload, I don't agree with th
On 09/30/2015 12:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> He knew it violated team norms and just didn't care.
That's not what I wrote.
I went into packages.d.o, saw DPMT, and a bit too fast, thought it was
team maintained and that an upload would be accepted. Yes, I knew the
rule, but no I didn't just ig
On 09/30/2015 11:15 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> so long for "Finger-pointing is pointless loss of time for everyone."
> just a few lines above..
It wasn't the goal of my 2 examples.
On 09/30/2015 12:45 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> nor is uploading a package just for their own interest and then let
> the maintainer fix the mistakes done. This has happened in the past,
> most of the times with Thomas, that's enough.
Sandro,
I've done hundreds of uploads. Lots of them uploading stu
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 05:26:08PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> I've done hundreds of uploads. Lots of them uploading stuff maintained
> within the DPMT. So far, only a single person complained...
That's not really true.
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On 09/30/2015 11:15 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> yeah that's it, you care only about pkg-openstack and has no interest
> to be a member of this team
No !
> (as it's proved by the fact you keep
> uploading general-purposes python modules under pkg-openstak umbrella)
This is due to the fact we're not
On 09/30/2015 05:40 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 05:26:08PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> I've done hundreds of uploads. Lots of them uploading stuff maintained
>> within the DPMT. So far, only a single person complained...
> That's not really true.
Ah, correct, there
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 09/30/2015 12:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> He knew it violated team norms and just didn't care.
>
> That's not what I wrote.
>
> I went into packages.d.o, saw DPMT, and a bit too fast, thought it was
> team maintained and that an uplo
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 09/30/2015 12:45 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> nor is uploading a package just for their own interest and then let
>> the maintainer fix the mistakes done. This has happened in the past,
>> most of the times with Thomas, that's enough.
>
> Sa
Hi,
Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. Those who don't agree
(especially admins) please voice your concern. It is my view that this
is an over reaction and that it should be reverted.
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
kindergarten ...
On 30.09.2015 21:41, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. Those who don't agree
(especially admins) please voice your concern. It is my view that this
is an over reaction and that it should be reverted.
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 09/30/2015 09:49 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
> kindergarten ...
Indeed. We all have better things to do!
Thomas
[Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30]
> Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team.
DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes
> is an over reaction and that it should be reverted.
I talked with you many times in private about your involvement in the
teams over last ~3 years and since I kind of forced other a
On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30]
> > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team.
>
> DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes
>
> > is an over reaction and that it should be reverted.
>
> I talked with you many times in private about your invol
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>> [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30]
>> > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team.
>>
>> DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes
>>
>> > is an over reaction and that it should be rev
Le 1 octobre 2015 00:25:55 GMT+02:00, Ian Cordasco
a écrit :
>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue
>wrote:
>> On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>>> [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30]
>>> > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team.
>>>
>>> DPMT and PAPT to
On September 30, 2015 6:43:09 PM EDT, "Pierre-Elliott Bécue"
wrote:
>Le 1 octobre 2015 00:25:55 GMT+02:00, Ian Cordasco
> a écrit :
>>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue
>
>>wrote:
>>> On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
[Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30]
>
Hi Pierre-Elliott,
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> > [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30]
> > > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team.
> > DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes
> > > is an over reacti
[Pierre-Elliott Bécue, 2015-10-01]
> Even if I'm not in the team and thus I do not decide of anything, I
> wonder if that's an appropriate answer, regarding the initial trouble.
>
> We are currently talking about preventing Thomas to maintain his
> packages that has DPMT as maintainer, because he
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